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The Impossible Heir: Episodes 1-2

The Impossible Heir promises a wild tale of chaebol throne usurpation, and our first week in the drama is mostly occupied by showing us our main players and their history together. The drama moves fast as light, and has loads it wants to accomplish, but as a consequence of the speed and setup, it runs a bit low on emotion so far. But there’s time for that to change. *Rubs palms together greedily*

 
EPISODES 1-2

The Impossible Heir: Episodes 1-2

As sometimes happens in dramaland, one learns everything she needs to know from the opening title sequence. And in the case of The Impossible Heir, the OG soundtrack (like the best revenge melos before it) promises a wreck of complicated machinations, emotions, and character histories — and I’m here for it.

We first meet our heroes in high school. HAN TAE-OH (Lee Jae-wook) is our typical dramaland hero archetype: a top-ranking student, living on his own, hiding(ish) a gory parental crime in his past, and full of — in his words — something more powerful than money: desperation.

Our second hero (boy, this dual hero thing is the greatest ever) is KANG IN-HA (Lee Jun-young) of Kangoh Group, and he’s also his fair share of archetypal hero. In-ha is ostracized by his chaebol family for being illegitimate, and his lack of love/belonging/acknowledgement comes out the way you’d expect: unsafe motorcycling, petty delinquency, and bullying Tae-oh the second he transfers to In-ha’s high school.

A couple of fights and standoffs later, it’s clear these two are too strong and willful to be on opposing sides. Tae-oh has a proposition: “Let’s be friends. You’ll be my rope that will help me reach the major leagues.” So, they start concocting a years-in-the-making plan, which we’re not exactly privy to, but have to assume has been cooking on the stove when we circle back to our heroes in 2013 when they’re attending Hanguk University. Indeed, that was the start of their agreement: In-ha needed the help to get into the school, and as for Tae-oh, he’s got his eyes on bigger things. But this boy is also good at playing the long game, so it’s hardcore studying and part-time jobs for him.

We settle into the boys’ college years for the bulk of the time, and see how the two make an interesting team. In-ha is living his bank-rolled life in Cheongdam, but he seems to be able to swap from luxury to Tae-oh’s ramshackle rooftop digs without missing a beat. The two have settled into a friendship and partnership that hasn’t (yet) faltered, and a few times we catch them consulting on the next step in their plan. Not gonna lie, the corporate side of their scheming is either not that well-explained, or rushed through too quickly to be able to have a clear picture of what their game plan is just yet. But it’s clear that Kangoh Group’s plans for a “Co-Prosperity Cooperation Center” is the boys’ starting point.

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It’s worth noting at this point that the drama does require some suspension of disbelief in this department. Because what we have is a [terribly cute and grave] college student who’s somehow able to predict the moves of Kangoh Group’s Chairman Kang (the perennially bad Choi Jin-ho) and his family and entourage. Whether it’s the olive branch dinner invitation to In-ha, or the inheritance waiver In-ha strategically signs, we must believe that Tae-oh is a master kingmaker/chessmaster, and he’s one step ahead.

The first wave of complication in our boys’ plans happens with the entrance of our poverty-stricken femme fatale NA HYE-WON (rookie actress Hong Su-ju). She’s in a set of dive circumstances practically identical to Tae-oh: parental baggage, absolutely impoverished, working part-time jobs, studying hard at Hanguk – and they even live in across-the-way rooftop apartments.

Well, there’s a little something-something in Tae-oh’s eyes when he looks at — and subsequently ignores — Hye-won every time they cross paths. She calls him out on pretending not to recognize her, though, and it sets something off in Tae-oh. Not quite puppy eyes, but we can tell that beneath his unsmiling face, he’s sweet on her. Even In-ha notices… and that’s when things start to get interesting.

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Using the opposite playbook to Tae-oh, In-ha openly hits on Hye-won until her denials start to lose their sticking power. But Tae-oh isn’t doing it as a power play against his friend. No, it’s more juicy than that. He is genuinely into her, and hey, ain’t nobody saying no to this chaebol heir, legitimate or not.

The brewing love triangle comes to a head one day on campus when some greasy loan sharks come for Hye-won because of her gambling-addicted mother’s recent theft. She’s cold and cool with them, and, as ever, there isn’t a hint of any strong emotions in Hye-won at all (which could be why I found her character alternately ice cold and/or boring so far). Our boys, on the other hand, are both moved by her plight and their desire to protect her. They both run at top speed through campus looking for her, and it’s In-ha who finds her first. A very unreciprocated kiss later, and it looks like In-ha finally has his girl.

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There are a few problems with this. One is that we have seen Hye-won calculating for this very moment. She seems to have In-ha’s psychology down to a tee, and she played him like a fiddle to increase his interest in her and desire for her. She’s also made her intentions clear to Tae-oh — first asking him for help, and later saying she was going to do the same thing that Tae-oh was: use In-ha as a rope to climb out of their miserable circumstances. (To me, she’s the more heartless here, since she’s manipulating In-ha’s emotions. Tae-oh, on his side, is manipulating In-ha’s position, but since the boys have been calculating their plays together, it isn’t nearly as off putting.)

But there’s another problem with this scenario, and it’s that there are some genuine feelings brewing between Tae-oh and Hye-won. But will those feelings be more important than their ambitions to rise out of their circumstances? So far: no. Tae-oh all but confesses his feelings to Hye-won, throwing in an epic wrist grab before she heads off to In-ha’s, but she tells him he’ll regret it in a few months.

But it seems like she’s the one that’s regretting her heartlessness, because ten minutes later she’s at his door, ready to take it all back. It wouldn’t be a drama if Tae-oh opened the door and they kissed and lived happily ever after. So instead, it’s his turn to turn her down. He ignores her, and instead answers a call from his other “rope.”

That rope is In-ha’s younger half-sister KANG HEE-JOO (rookie actress Choi Hee-jin). She’s a 17-year-old girl with a passionate crush on her math tutor… who is none other than our Tae-oh (so who can blame her). Tae-oh has been rebuffing her, but it looks like he might be changing his mind now, taking a page from Hye-won’s playbook.

Though at 17 she’s a spoiled chaebol brat, Hee-joo is also quite clearly the nicest and least greedy person in the Kang family. She seems to truly like In-ha, and her desire for him to be in their family is what starts Chairman Kang turning (ever so slightly) in In-ha’s direction. Hee-joo is also unafraid to call out (or bite, lol) her parents and older brothers for being inhumane towards In-ha. In sum, I like Hee-joo a heck of a lot more than Hye-won so far, but is it the actress, the character, or both?

Either way, I love that the drama is setting us up for a positively galling love triangle between In-ha, Tae-oh, and Hye-won, as I asked for this agony from the get-go. However, the speed with which we travel through these episodes and interactions makes it hard for me to get behind the pining and renunciation thus far (which is sad, because those are my favorite elements in a story like this). But I believe Tae-oh is in love with her because Lee Jae-wook is a wonderful actor; I also believe that In-ha is in love and slightly obsessed with her because Lee Jun-young is equally great (the unevenness he brings to In-ha’s character is going to have huge payoff later, I suspect). But as for our ~lovers~ right now, I just need to spend more time with our characters to get behind it all.

That’s actually my main critique thus far — despite the premise being strong and the characters compelling, I’m not really feeling a whole lot with them yet. And if the drama is going to trample us later with what’s going to happen in these relationships, that’s essential. In the drama’s defense, though, I’ll also say that it spends far more time with the characters — and caring about their interactions — than any corporate machinations, and for that I’m grateful. And I’m also hopeful. If the drama cares this much already about creating characters with complex relationships and layered motivations, it’s going to get gooood.

The Impossible Heir: Episodes 1-2

Going into this premiere, I was most excited to see the chemistry between Lee Jae-wook and Lee Jun-young, as I couldn’t really imagine these two on screen together since they’re both such strong performers — but I love what we’ve gotten so far. The actors and characters both have their unique power, and the way these two pull equal weight is another promising signal for the complications to come.

As our episodes close, we jump to 2018 and the opening of the Co-Prosperity Cooperation Center where both Tae-oh and In-ha seem to be playing integral roles. While In-ha looks openly ready to start playing ball against Chairman Kang and his half-brothers, Tae-oh seems like a carefully placed double agent who’s ready to be activated. Now that we’re inching closer to the main action of the drama, I’m hopeful the pacing will even out and we’ll be good to go.

 
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Thanks for the weecap @missvictrix I was not expecting to last the episode when it started with such a dark tone but so far I have been ‘grabbed by the collar’, left eager to see what happens in the next two episodes and at this stage of watching I am not going anywhere.

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Recently, a beanie mentioned the immediate triggering of curiosity when we see a deleted comment under our comment. Consider me curious 🧐

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[Ha! Well, Reply, when I read my comment back over, it wasn't that interesting...so I thought I'd not muddy the waters. But, here ya go, though--with some editing!]

I, too, was "grabbed by the collar" from the very first minute!!! I hope they leave "nothing uncovered" 😉

I don't see Hye-won as heartless, though, @missvictrix. I feel she's doing what she needs to do to survive. And, in a drama driven by testosterone (not that I'm complaining), I'm pretty much here for her.

I find this show to be superb so far, and am fully invested in all of the main characters. There's even (squee) a smarmy Lee Ji-hoon who I am happy to see gets to simper, while looking well-groomed. 😘

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Thanks for sharing☺️

I am surprised how good this was from the start. I agree the female lead reminds me of the limited glimpse I had of the female lead in My mister (I walked in episode 1 as it was too dark at the time but i could probably handle it now). She focuses her energy where she needs to and blends into the background until she needs to show up.

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I'm hooked. I expected LJW to be intensely watchable as he always is, but I'm particularly impressed with how Lee Jun-young brings the campy mannerisms and joy to In-ha's initial angry volatility after he forms a partnership with Tae-oh and his life starts to look up. You can see the flamboyant, charming kid he should have been all along bursting out once there's an opening - but the menace and the wildness are still there, too. I wonder how far the show will take the queer-coding.

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@elinor I am loving the new tag.

I am interested in all three leads and how they will develop as a team and individuals. I am also intrigued about the role of the younger sister as she was 17 when initially rejected and if she goes off to university and then comes back as a capable adult she could end up being part of their inner circle and then both the outsiders will be able to stay in the land of possibilities with legal ties to the family.

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Well, @elinor, as @javabeans has said, "BL, take the wheel!!"

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I like the duo of male leads, I liked the duo of female leads less.

Both LJW and LJY were good and I liked how they agreed to use each other to obtain what they want.

For the girl, I wasn't impressed by Hong Su-Ju and her character wasn't really well introduced so it made surprising that In-Ha would just fall in love with her like that.

I liked the little sister fought for In-Ha but less the part with Tae-Oh. She acted like the typical rich brat with him.

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I’m suspecting a quadrangle coming up with the little sister. I hope I’m wrong.

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Yup. We don’t know how she will grow up. As a typical chaebol entitled brat or someone who is obsessive or just someone pining for love.
Atleast TaeHo didn’t hide anything from In Ha, so no surprises there.

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Oh, totally. The only unknown is if Tae-oh will ever reciprocate her feelings. I'm guessing not, but we'll see.

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I wonder how In-Ha will react to this. He likes his sister and if he agreed to be used by Tae-Oh, I don't think he will agree for his sister.

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I think Hye-won suggested this to Tae-oh at the library, and then we had the dramatic reveal of In-ha overhearing this hidden behind the curtain? He did not have a happy look. Tho I couldn’t tell if it was for him or his sister.

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i am not sure if there is love in the picture..

there is a scene when FL's first enters and inha tells taeho that FL is not an easy person and he said he knows

for whatever reason, inha may or mayhave fallen in love in the process but his initial attempt to get close to FL definitely was not romance

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This is the scene I rewound twice. Tae-oh revealed nothing in that scene...and In-ha's thought was "What's up with you, Hye-won?" So, I ended up thinking this was her fishing In-ha in further, and not about Tae-oh at all...

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The little sister is the best. When we do the time jump forward, I can tell that I'll want to be protecting her openness first and foremost.

Also, her eyes. Who can stop looking at her eyes. No one.

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She's so pretty! And she's really talented in her performance, I do hope she gets more varied roles in the future.

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better than FL..

FL is chosen because of some connections for sure.. can't act to save her life

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I can understand why Tae Ho was drawn to her. Similar circumstances, a girl living alone on rooftop with parent issues etc. I can see why he is naturally drawn to her. But In-Ha, no idea. All he saw was Tae Ho look at her. That’s why I have this nagging feeling there is more to In Ha than what we are shown.

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Agreed. It was like a i know you like her, and since that is the case, she is mine, and that was it. He liked her, unless he liked her before and they just didn't show it, because unlike Tae Ho, he actually knew her name.

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I noted that In Ha knew her name whereas Tae-oh didn't, so it may be the case that it's revealed later that In Ha had been nursing a crush for a while. I did think his feelings were/are genuine, although Tae-Ho's attraction may have validated them and spurred In Ha to act on them. As you said, it could also be part of their dynamic where in In Ha feels compelled to take whatever Tae-Ho has, but I do suspect it's not just that.

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they are from same campus.. inha is the social butterfly.. bet he knows everyone's name..

and FL, by virtue of being the FL, must be the beauty goddess on that campus.. given inha lives up to his playboy image.. he is bound to know her right...

and like taeoh.. he might also resonate at some level with that fighting this world and living alone with parents not worth it kind of situation

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It was my impression that In-ha became truly interested in Hye-won at the exact moment he realized that Tae-oh had feelings for her.

His attraction stems, in part, because he gets to lord the relationship over Tae-oh.

Everyone's using everyone else. No one's being 100% honest, except maybe little sister (why I'm coming to love her more and more every moment--and see much peril ahead for her as she gets chaebol-twisted).

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agree.. i said the same thing

in ha approaching FL has nothing to do with romance (although he may or might have fallen in love during this process of 10 yrs)

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Feelings from Inha's side feel extremely clouded by the side emotions. For once, there was something extremely classist when Inha found out that Taeoh didn't tell him Hyewon's address. Same goes for that instance when he gets rejected by Hyewon in the restaurant and offers to buy her time.

I don't think Inha is necessarily a bad person, but I do think he enjoys having the control over both of them. Even if Inha genuinely likes Hyewon, I bet he wouldn't bother had she been richer and Taeoh didn't have a crush on her.

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This tracks. In Ha comes from a poition of relative disadventage in his own family , so it makes sense he'll apply the same hirrechy system (with him at the top) in his friend circle. I wonder how aware he is that he's doing that . I sense Te Oh is actively aware of that, though.

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Idk, the sister acted like a kid- imperfect, highly naive, somewhat spoiled, but loving and passionatte kid. I liked her 'unlikeable' qualities. Post time skip, she is the character I'm intrested in the most

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The drama definitely live up to the heaviness and seriousness that I want in this business thriller aka revenge, even if I seriously want that FL role to be played by another actress.

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Yes! Can’t help but think it would have been epic if Jeon Jong Seo was in this instead 😆

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I am sure the drama will be better.

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That would have been a better trade! At least I'll only watch one Impossible drama.

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That's a good effort.

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I will wait until Ep 6 and jump in if the consensus is positive, but for now I am not impressed, even with the acting of the boys. Given that it is only 12 episodes, I was expecting more mind games, but the set-up was slow. Glad, I missed the love triangle by not watching Ep.2 because the FL's acting is flat. Thanks @missvictrix for the recap.

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I don't have access to Disney+ this weekend, so I think I'm glad I missed the 1st 2 episodes. The overall premise of corporate shenanigans would normally be a big plus for me, but I really hate love triangle stories, especially if there is not a clear demarcation between a main and second.

Your plan to wait until the halfway point makes sense.

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See ya then! You'll be back ;)

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editing/direction is chopping

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I'm here for LJW and I think both male leads did a good job. 
It's hard to gauge as the first couple of episodes are always set up and how far do we have to suspend disbelief for the long haul revenge plan from such a young age but I'm willing to give it a go.
Since watching Lee Sung Min in Reborn Rich as the patriarch of the family, who was absolutely amazing, I always find it disappointing when other actors play this role and dont have the same presence or gravitas. It's only early days so we will see.
 I also hope the rookie female lead improves over the coming episodes as she stands out amongst the boys with her wooden, flat acting. 
Do we really need another love triangle though? I thought In-ha would have been more perceptive that there was some interest from Tae -oh. 
I look forward to next week with interest. 
Thanks for the recap missvictrix :)

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I thought In ha did realize that Tae-oh has genuine feelings for Hye-won, but when In ha asked Tae-oh about it, and told him that his own feelings were sincere, I think at that point In ha decided that because Tae-oh wasn't admitting to or confirming anything, that therefore In had didn't need to step aside--he was free to pursue Hye-won. I think what he might not be aware of though is the depth of Tae-oh's feelings, which will likely only increase with time.

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The first episode felt very contrived. There was a lot of ‘deja vu’ feeling, like we have seen this drama already. From the moment Tae-Oh lands in this small town, to him ending up in a hill to see In Ha, everything felt staged. It was hard to believe that a 18 year old is acting like a ‘kingmaker’. A bit more of an organic development would have been nicer.
Second episode was better, but still the writing leaves a lot to be desired. I didn’t quite get into the love line. There was too much intensity for what was shown.

At times it feels like LJW is acting more than what the script was given to him. He is compelling, no doubt, but there is only so much an actor can do. And he does run beautifully.

I actually like In Ha’s character more and Jun is doing a great job here. There is enough charm but at the same time we know he is not as he seems to appear. Did he really like Na Hye Won or was it something he wanted to take from Tae Oh?

Having said that, I still will be continuing. I liked it enough to watch 2 episodes. I mostly like the casting, except the FL (Can’t tell if I like her acting yet). The boys together are interesting and looking forward to how they grow from here. With the time jump, I think things will be more believable and well paced.

The chaebol family seems standard fare, with the exception of the one brother, who we know very little so far. The sister again is unpredictable. I am here for all the drama.

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Yeah, anytime a drama shows me teenager speaking in metaphors, I just force myself to roll with it. Almost all child/teen characters are so very mature in dramaland. In fact, when we get them acting messy and confused and without a plan, we’re shocked (as in Twinkling Watermelon).

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Also, what’s with high school kids? Their reaction to seeing a rich person is ‘let me use them to climb ropes’? especially when both the kids are excelling in studies. A genuine friendship will be enough to help them in life, they don’t need to get all manipulative for that. But I guess, then we won’t have this drama!!

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Tho I’m not familiar with the show’s usage, what came to mind was another idiom. Don’t ask for so much rope that you hang yourself. Aka, be careful what you wish for. And that goes to your point re In-ha. That rope may pose more danger than they expected.

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Exactly. What is their motivation, again? Realistically speaking, both Taeoh and Hyewon would have been fine without Inha. They are students in Hanguk University and from everything we know they are paying for it from their pocket. Worst case scenario, they would need to work on entry roles for the first few years upon graduation, but even that would be a lot easier than whatever they are doing right now.

If Taeoh's goal is not stealing Kangoh Group or just ruining the whole family, I have zero clue why he even bothers. Same goes for Hyewon, who is at this point selling herself for a slightly more luxurious future than the one she would have gotten through hard-work.

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taeho's goal is to escape his dad and save his mom.. for which he needs power .. which is what he wants from inha.. also, i don't think taeho has cashed in the "salary" yet.... when the time will come, he will ask inha for a favor

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I personally feel that I was wiser, more articulate when I was a teenager. At that time I was reading a lot of classic world literature, things that nowadays seem too boring and difficult for me to even want to start reading. Sometimes I read my old essays etc and they seem brilliant lol. I also read a lot of psychological literature, which helps in "deciphering" people. I think that when you're young, if you put in a little effort, you can be wiser than your age would suggest. The mind is then more receptive and there is more willingness to learn and understand difficult things or even remember wise quotes. I used to learn Latin (in high school and college/university) and I knew a lot of Latin quotations, which over time I forgot or they stopped having meaning for me.

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I used to read big novels as a kid/teen, but these days I am struggling with 9 multiplication table😂😭

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But isn't it the lesson of being a WAY smarter teen than everyone else...that you end up depressed or with PTSD chased by Macau casino thugs through Seoul??

I'd rather be dumb and rich than smart and poor, if dramas are the metric...

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@attiton 😂😂😂

When you put it like that, I’d much prefer my drama characters to be preternaturally intelligent (and impossibly beautiful) so I can watch them being chased around Seoul by Macau thugs (or end up in blood splattered yet evah so glamorous prologues).

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This resonated with me. As a teenager, I read so many great Russian novels. They were enjoyable bricks and I largely understood the scope, grandeur, brutalities and overarching tragedies at their core but as an adult, I haven’t been game enough to immerse myself in these shattering stories again.

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I understand intelligent, smart, wise kids. It is hard to believe they are so smart to work the system, read corporate workings etc and have high emotional intelligence without any experience in the world. And I am also ok if it was an exception, but in this case the show is implying that 3 such people exist.

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Oh B, dontcha know? Once you scale the heights of literary metaphors, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to plotting chaebol politics like you’re playing chess and drafting corporate strategy like Musk. 😉

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Also considering the circumstances these kids grew up in, it's no wonder that Tae-oh at least grew up so fast!

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Who thinks the impossible heir is really LJW? We don’t know who his bio father is, right?

I find myself in agreement with the recap. I found the plotting and pace of this addictive—so much so that I binged both episodes. But I also found that it sometimes came at the cost of emotional development. For example, in the triangle we spent the greatest time building the boys relationship and it’s fantastic. Less time between LJW and HSJ, but enough to find the attraction credible. But I didn’t feel any connection btwn LJY and HSJ except for instant love just so we can have a love triangle. As a result, when LJY’s character overhears the other two in the library, his reaction just felt theatrical. As the recap said, we need to be invested in the relationships to care about their betrayal.

I didn’t mind HSJ’s character as much as some because at least they gave her a story, her own motivations and goals. I hope she will be more than the third wheel. Unlike the villains, who, other than the father, were rather one-dimensional and predictable. (Chaebol daddy also got the best shirts, like some 70s gangsta!)

Anyway, I’m looking forward to next week’s twist and turns as well. And if they slow down a bit to develop the depth this story needs, it could become a winner.

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‘ Who thinks the impossible heir is really LJW?’
Oh, I like the twist that would be amazing if he was and would explain why he was set on a revenge plot at such a young age, whether he purposely chose to engage with the other out of wedlock child and could explain why he and his mum were in that town.

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so, rich daddy married atleast twice.. and current lady is his second wife.. mother to the inha and the girl.. assuming inha is son of mom and someother guy/first husband... and girl is mom-chaebol daddy's blood..

so yea.. in that case LJW could be illegitimate son of chaebol daddy while inha is son of the lady in the house

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Interesting thinking, you Indy and Lauren have clearly watched a lot of those ridiculous plot twist dramas! I just think simple; chaebol dad playing the field and either has one or more mistresses resulting in a baby he chooses to accept or not. The said child is brought into the house or not depending on the story and the half siblings treat the child badly rather than their out of order dad. They don’t want to share the inheritance with full or half siblings but they are happy wasting their inheritance on entertaining fair weather friends and showing off their expensive toys.

I don’t think Inha could be that woman’s child because the dad is the one inviting him over and funding his lifestyle. I think she hates Inha as he is proof she wasn’t enough for her husband. Inha’s mum must be dead or disappeared.

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ya.. i was confused why he was calling her mom when the eldest was calling her Ms. Jhang

but agree.. maybe a case of too many mistresses.. or better still.. TH's mom is first love of the chaebol.. lol.. oh how the tables will turn .. where inha had to fight for a second glance from daddy... TH would just be hugged and welcomed with open arms

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Well, if you Consider Chaebol Daddy as a modern Emperor, I wouldn't really say he's playing the field. He also has no love lost for any of these women (or respect), who he mostly sees as carriers of his bloodline, lol.

The Oldest 'Crown Prince's' mother is clearly deposed and not in the picture. Possibly dead? The Mother to the Second Prince & the spoilt Princess is the reigning Empress now, promoted from her Second-in-Line Consort status because of her useful maternal-home connections. Also explains why she's so entitled about her son inheriting and is actively planning to oust In-Ha for good. Gardening is perhaps just a front, and I wouldn't be surprised if she turns out to be big-business-brained as well.

In-Ha's the 'useless' Prince of a no-name Concubine, who doesn't stand anywhere in the succession line, and thus, is a prime target for being ill-treated. And if indeed Tae-Oh's also an illegitimate son... it's a nice touch that his mother is currently a Buddhist Nun, which used to be a common punishment for being abandoned by the Emperor.

I have clearly watched too many Harem/ Court politics dramas for my own good! 🤣

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Ha! Your makjangy brain indeed. Birth secret 😂
I do think he didn’t move to the town and meet In Ha coincidentally. There is a strong chance it was all deliberate. But, it would make more sense if he is using him to prove his existence.

Agree on the reaction to kiss. That’s where I felt like he was acting ‘too much’ when we didn’t feel anything for him or his love.

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I thought that about Tae-oh as well--that he's the real heir, plotting to take back his rightful position in order to protect himself and his mother from his adoptive father. There's also an obvious dynamic here where In Ha seems prime to take what Tae-oh has or wants, which suggests that perhaps he is the biological son of one or both of Tae-oh's parents--i.e. they're at least half brothers.

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Wait, is this a case of one-upmakjangship? 😂

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I've not watched yet, and only saw this in the Comments Stream but had to come over here RIGHT AWAY and give the invention of the term one-upmakjangship a frickin' 🫘Beansprout Award for Best K-drama Term EVAR 🌱

Indy, you're the best.

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I second that. @indyfan, you made my morning. Still laughing/smirking over here.

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Aww thanks you two. While I’m 💯 sure if DB search worked, we’d find the term, I’ll take the honors and share with LaurenSophie who did one-upmakjanged me after all.

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NOPE! Did some "advanced googling," Indy. That's the only time that string of characters has ever been used on the open Internet. 😚

It's not even indexed on this page yet.

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Agree this is great term we need a list of these beanie terms and the beanies who came up with them:

No wheel for the second leads wasting their time and ours by taking up too much screen time (can't remember the beanie who coined it but it was in relation to the annoying second lead in Welcome to Samdalri)

Trojan horse dramas for those that come in as one drama e.g. rom com and go out as mystery/thriller @ohsoenthusiastic coined this one in a Oh! Youngshim news post.

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LOL.. more birth secrets... I better prepare myself for future episodes gives beanies theories.

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This sounds very much like Oasis, I thought there were similarities with the rivalry for the one girl.

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Even if that's true, the genius of up-makjangsmanship aside--I'm not convinced HE knows it is true.

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"Who thinks the impossible heir is really LJW?"
When Te Oh told In Ha to be "innocent but not naive, a persin that doesn't overstep, that's how they should come to see you" It felt pretty obvious the plot hints that this is how Te Oh is himself. Hmmmmmmmm

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I did not like the premier episode. Not much likeable characters. The female lead doesn't suit the story. I didn't understand how come the boys fall for her! Just because she happend to live a crossed the street 😁 we also don't know much about the other side. I ll give one more week, one more chance 😁

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While watching IH, I found myself constantly comparing things to other shows. One was Wedding Impossible because of the timing and the triangle. But other things kept popping into my mind. The corporate/chaebol family scenes had a sageuk feel (who's the heir machinations, chamber maids wearing hanboks and a plethora of indentured, who would want to eat meals at the adult table?) if everyone was wearing modern day rich gangster shirts. Hee Joo gave me Ji Eun Tak of Goblin vibes, which may or may not be good thing. The love triangle made me think of Oasis (at the least the parts I watched before dropping). After watching the first two episodes I realized the reason I was comparing IH to other things was because I wanted a hook, any hook for me to grab me into the show. The show itself right now is falling flat, and despite elements that could be interesting, it's a near miss.

The main problem for me right now is the love triangle. I just don't feel it. The story and editing of the triangle were so scant that I didn't get the rush of emotions from Tae Oh towards her. I did get each person in the triangle might find another person in the triangle useful. In Ha might want Hye Won because of some intense rivalry he has with Tae Oh (the useful frenemy vibe is strong). Tae Oh needs In Ha for his plans, big plans. Hye Won needs In Ha also to get out of her poverty jail. But these intellectual triangulations don't grip me without some emotional connection that is palpable to me, which just hasn't happened yet. Hye Won has no spark for me-- maybe if she were energetically scrappy or kickass in scheming (taking everything like her awful mom or the gangsters stoically doesn't do it for me), maybe if she had a sense of humor or even smiled, or I would even take if she were a little more old school candy. The FL character and the FL's acting are a black hole of emotions to me by absorbing all coming her way and letting nothing escape. That fundamental problem makes that part of the triangle weak or maybe it's missing a leg making it just an obtuse angle.

This all could be a me problem in the face of two similar shows (even sharing a word in the title) that are airing simultaneously. It makes me want to combine the best of both shows (e.g., let's swap the FLs!). It makes me appreciate Like Flowers in Sand for being so different in the recent spat of time travel, revenge marriage dramas, and now Impossible burgers. I am hoping that IH will get better--and the men in suits at the end have me staying another week.

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You have aptly written down everything I felt. Thank you! The saeguk vibes are strong in this one, perhaps even more evident in the next week episodes that were leaked.

I thought Jun (In Ha) would be the hook for me... but so far, it's this weird, dissonant feeling of watching a saeguk plot with characters dressed in modern clothes! xD this is going to be a first for me!

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Unfortunately I have to pile on HSJ a little bit, she isn't great, she reminds me of the FL from numbers. Both pretty women who simply are very good actresses, to her credit, she was better in episode 2 than episode 1, but that isn't saying much. As for our boys, they had great chemistry and act well against each other. I really like LJW's Tae Ho and his college wardrobe. Those are my kind of sweats, massively oversized and comfortable. We shall see how the once a week works out, but I enjoyed the first two episodes.

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I actually understand why they both might fall in love with her. All three are at the same faculty of the same prestigious university. To get there you really have to work hard and have excellent academic results. Not being rich makes it more difficult. This fact alone makes her interesting, because they see in her an ambition similar to the one they have. She is beautiful, that much is obvious. But being such a beautiful woman, she is also lonely at the university and has no friends. They both knew it. That is, they saw that she was so emotionally independent that she didn't need other people around her and she managed to cope anyway. She ate dinner alone and it didn't bother her. And the fact that she took an interest in them and talked to them, something she certainly didn't do with others from the university, made them stand out. They were intrigued and flattered that she made time for them. She let them into her private circle, saying she wanted to be friends. And she played it in such a way that she showed herself as a young woman who was hard to get. She played them psychologically, both of them. By giving them permission to be a part of her life, they felt that they had won something, something that not everyone could win. And at this point, even the knowledge that she is not honest in her actions does not bother any of them, because she has already conquered them.

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Yeah I don't get why ppl are surprised by the romantic attention the FL gets either. I remember my university days, and hormones were flying around like arrows in a sageuk battle scene. If anything, I'm surprised there aren't *more* guys interested in her - one of my roommates in uni was very beautiful, and you wouldn't believe how many guys made utter fools of themselves pursuing her (even after she got a boyfriend and was upfront about it). There was even a dude who hit on her (while ignoring the rest of us) on our morning bus ride to campus.

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Ithink many viewers, especially women, are used to men in dramas, the main characters, choosing good women as their lovers. The kind of women they, as viewers, like. When in fact, if dramas were to reflect what it is like in life, men primarily choose and fall in love with beautiful women who are a kind of trophy for them. Beautiful women with "not easy" status are like valuable prizes. When they are nice to them, seek their company after the initial distance, men feel that they have actually achieved conquest. Although in fact it was women who chose them. It's an old game where something that's easy to get isn't as fun as something that's hard to get. Many viewers are too used to the familiar formulas, that the main characters are the ones you can support, sympathize with, like, and in my opinion this is not this type of drama. These are characters that are not meant to be liked, but to follow their life path and be prepared that this life path may be ugly and their decisions may be controversial.

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I had a similar experience. my roommate had two boys running after her all the time and she dated both, one after another. and then when she was ready to get a proposal from them, 1 if them ditched her and the other one said "you are like my little sister we are just friends" agshdjdksl she cried 3 days in our room. It was a disaster! Seriously!

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Taeoh likes her because she is basically his female version of him and thus, understands him well. Inha likes her because he not only respects her intelligence, but also can play her hero.

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That "knight in shining armor" aspect is definitely there too. Because on the one hand, they admire that she can cope with life on her own, despite her difficult life, and on the other hand, at the first opportunity (when thugs appeared at the university), they wanted to save her from the evil of this world.

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I've only seen the first episode so far, and I found it largely unsettling, but like @missvictrix, struggled to feel for the characters (other than Tae-oh's mom) on an emotional level. I agree that the main guys have strong chemistry together, and both LJW and Jun know how to command a viewer's attention from the first scene. But like others, I wish the production had hired a stronger actress for the role of Hye-won as she's such a key part of this story and so far, I don't find her on-screen presence or talent to be substantial enough to suit this character. I can see in a general sense why both men are drawn to her--she's pretty, mysterious, and strong--but the emotional stakes would be so much higher if she were played by someone more adept at showing interiority. I do, however, like the actress playing Hee-joo so I had the fleeting wish while watching that she was the one playing Hye-won.

I'm not sure if this will hold, but although we clearly have two leads, the writing and staging already seem to be building up Tae-oh as the main protagonist, and of course, that dark and bloody opening scene are setting us up for his downfall. To that end, my biggest concern about this show is how incredibly dark it feels, so that every interaction is weighted down by the expectation of tragedy and betrayal to come. That makes me not want to watch it all the way through, but I'm willing to give this a couple more episodes to see how much pain we're in for.

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Am I the only one who was all in for the bromance and was very upset when it started crumbling at the end of the first episode? Still trying to decide if I want to watch the second episode or not. I kind of liked the setting but I don't want to watch something too messy...

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Except Jun's character, every other character is unlikeable. It is annoyed me when FL is acting tough but getting help by male characters every time. The love tringle ruins the plot. And I don't get the hype of Lee Jae-wook, he is so flat.

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They being unsympathetic and a love triangle is the plot of the drama. The rest looks more like a plot excuse. The fight to take over the company, scheming in a rich family. That is not the most important. The intro already announces that this is a drama in which the two main characters will not live in happy coexistence.

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I have a much less positive reading of Hee-joo. She may be superficially nicer to her half brother than the rest of the family, but the reason she was acting up against her elders wasn't because of her love for In-ha, it was to get closer to Tae-oh. And eww, the way she treats servants and the disgustingly classist way she tried to save face when Tae-oh turned her down...

I love the actress tho. One day she won't play a villain, bully, spoilt rich girl, etc.

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As for the drama itself, I agree, I felt none of the emotions we were supposed to feel but damned if I wasn't entranced the whole time. I'm interested with where the story goes but my biggest gripe is, I came for the underdog intrigue plot, but most of the episodes seemed to be about the love triangle. And where is the bromance? 😭😭

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Yep, I'm here for the same things :( Hopefully we will have more of that in future episodes. Right now my fave character is Inha... but I know such characters in dramas end up being very cruel. And I don't like it.

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Before I watched the eps I was all for the curroption arc but seeing his relationship with his sister I just kinda want him to get better

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The point of this show is Lee junyoung for me.
He is a master in showing complicated characters, and his character looks already complicate in this show, sometimes even a little creepy!
Why is he always behind doors and curtains? and he acts like a clingy person when actually he doesn't trust people at all? 😶

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My original fear prior to the release was that Taeoh would do all the work and then get cut off by Inha once he achieved his goal of getting revenge on his family and became drunk on the money and power.

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Agree with you
But I think Teaho is dangerous too, he doesn't even consider Inha his friend he calls him the "golden rope" or sth, that's really heartbreaking to me I wanted a good bromnce

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A crisp production and I enjoy the characters. Te Oh is the quiet tunnel vision business genious I expected him to be but Lee Jae Wook does excellent job in bringing him to life. In Ha is not who I expected him to be and I love him for that- he brings a lot of energy to the table that helps blance Te Oh solmen dementor. The sister was a real surprise- there is something so charming about her and I can definetally tell she's In Ha's sieter.
The FL is... also there! You can't win them all I guess.
I'm always up for business scheming and cooprate thrills, so even if there's notji g groundbraking, I'll still tune in to at least try the drama

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I have my own typos’ stories so appreciate that “solmen dementor” crept in without you noticing!

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All I can say is if/when something bad happens to In Ha, both Tae Oh and Hye Won are gonna feel REALLY bad. I get Tae Oh and his motives but Hye Won just seems so wishy washy. Like yes I understand she wants to get away from her mom and her life of poverty but it's irritating me and we're only in 2 episodes.

I also feel like they rushed the love triangle. Usually that doesn't come in until like episode 6 or 7 or further! Ha! All I did through the second half of episode two was yell at the screen about how they need to treat In Ha better and stop treating him like a meal ticket. Poor guy. Definitely rooting for him (not in the love triangle though - I'd rather he not end up with Hye Won).

And Huiju KILLED me! After her serious conversation saying goodbye to Tae Oh, I was absolutely dying with laughter at her bawling in the car. I don't know if it was supposed to be that serious but it was funny.

I was thinking from the beginning that In Ha was just pretending to like Hye Won so that she and Tae Oh would realize they liked each other and get together but now I'm not so sure. I do feel like there's more to him than what we're being led to believe. I just hope it's not ominous. He and Tae Oh's friendship is what I'm watching.

Lastly, this drama for me is just like Numbers, I keep having to pause, rewind, stop, talk myself through what's happening, then hit play again. Some of these shows get REALLY technical to the point it's hard to follow. Or maybe that's just me...

On a side note I would love to have a small roof apartment like that, even if it was run down and the only separate room was the bathroom. I've just always thought they were cool since I started watching dramas.

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We share many overlapping reactions!!

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The plan to reach the top (especially since I believe the 1st ML is also the illegitimate kid of the tycoon, as is 2nd ML) and the bromance was great in the 1st two episodes, BUT the inclusion of the girl as a love triangle trope (and that too the one who gets married to 2nd ML, with 1st ML pining for her, and ends up with 1st ML by the end) is nonsense typical kdrama trope that frankly has no business in the real or fictional world. Plus, the bromance will get destroyed too, with 2nd ML turning into a villain and ending up in jail judging by the teasers. So won't be watching anymore.
Korea needs to come up with new stuff rather than rehashing old dumb storylines like 'Money Flower' (which was also ridiculous).

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In my eyes, Hee Jo stole the show in these opening episodes. She brought life to a somewhat silted world, though the bromance at first did this well, too. Alas, the love triangle poured cold water over that fire in a way that’s very unsatisfying and perhaps too soon. It doesn’t help that, like others have already mentioned, the FL is not it. I found her cruel despite her circumstance. And the actress isn’t really… doing anything to show the characters depth. It’s one thing to be cold and another to be vacant. But, back to HeeJoo, I found her vivacious and tender. That scene where she’s sobbing after standing her ground? So precious. I found myself hoping the time jump would entreat TaeOh to her instead of HyeWon who is just not for me, though I don’t know if I actually want this or I just don’t want the alternative. Overall, I noticed some similarities between this and Itaewon Class, and as someone who loved Itaewon Class, we don’t need two. I hope this show will do something different. I feel like it will. Even though I’m not very impressed with the start, I think there’s some real possibility here so I’ll hang with it another week.

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