Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching (September 16, 2023)
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
missvictrix
Destined With You: *taps mic* I’m fully prepared to admit: Rowoon does things to me! I thought initially it was just his character and the setup in Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick, or in The King’s Affection, but now the third time is proving it: he’s just so sincere at portraying falling in helpless, adoring love onscreen that it makes me all kinds of verklempt. As for the plot, I feel so strangely crestfallen that the spells weren’t real. Like, say what, Show? I was, and continue to be, so completely ready to suspend disbelief and believe in them… so while I’m sad, I also love how they’re playing it, and how the logic is being held a bit loosely on purpose (so maybe they’re real after all…). I’m also deeply relieved we still have half our drama to go. Because while that does mean there’s a chance for all hell to break loose, I really just want to hang out in this story for many more episodes.
My Lovely Boxer: Do you hear that sound? It’s the sound of my bean counter, and this drama swiftly collecting 90% of my 2023 beans.
Dramaddictally
Destined With You: I should not have watched Episode 8 while I was trying to go to sleep. It had my stomach in knots, checking to make sure my door was locked. On a lighter note, Episode 7 was a trove of Treasure Hunts past! We got a camping couple and then we saw our male lead realize he’s saved as Groot in our heroine’s phone, lol.
My Lovely Boxer: Lee Sang-yeob this week was just wow. “Don’t come near me. You’ll get hurt.” Man, those were some loaded words that had nothing to do with the broken glass.
A Time Called You: What the lack of logic just happened? I was so utterly addicted to the first 8 episodes but then when the real reveals started I felt like it just fell off a cliff. The pros: Rowoon’s cameo. The cons: why was it only a cameo?! I really wanted to know about the life of those characters and it didn’t make sense to me that the story didn’t go there. Overall, it seemed like a jumble when it came to deciding which storylines were important and which weren’t just so the show could be clever with the timeline. Nope, sorry, it didn’t work for me. I was more impressed with being transported back to the 90s myself with chewed-up cassettes and those little red ribbons that pop the batteries out of a tape player.
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1 miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
COMPLETED
The First Responders 2 - It's over. I did it. I'm freeeee 🥳.
ONGOING
Behind Your Touch - I love how the show is continuing to balance humour and mystery - the 'Butt of Truth' mixed with all those revelations 😂. Only mis-step was the way Ji-suk died - just made no sense.
My Lovely Liar - In the year 2023 we're still getting token LGBT characters becoming murderers out of unrequited love 😐.
My Lovely Boxer - The suicide surprised me but it adds a good layer to the betting mafia story now that Tae-young is trying to catch them. But ugh for Jae-min being back next week. Why aren't we done with him yet?
Moving - I'm still vibrating from the nerves I had watching this week's episodes. Excited for more badass Mihyun next week. The finale is going to be SO good.
Destined With You - I have no idea what I'm watching with this show. The plot is all over the place.
Planning to try out The Kidnapping Day.
C-DRAMAS
Completed Fake It Till You Make It. The OTP and the story were both perfect until the end.
Also completed The Legend of Zhuohua, which suffered from too many episodes but was still a solid story.
Didn't get time for Sunshine By My Side and My Journey to You. Will binge both over the weekend.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:16 AM
I have Sunshine and My Journey on my backlog as well, but need to finish Lost You Forever first... my Real Life is unfortunately too busy right now. 😭
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:43 AM
Same. There has been an unusually high number of good to great c-dramas this year and I'm so behind due to real life 😭.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:17 AM
Deeply resonant lllooollll…you can join @lapislazulii and myself in the “completist-masochist” club, clearly 🤨
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:44 AM
I am already a card-carrying member of the club! Hugs to fellow members 🤗.
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 6:07 AM
I am another completist-masochist.
Autumn resolutions: dropping more, dropping more and dropping more 😅
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wonhwa
September 16, 2023 at 7:27 AM
It also took me a while to realize I could just drop things, but I have been much happier in my drama watching since.
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Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
August 16, 2024 at 4:21 PM
😂
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Asha13
September 17, 2023 at 7:17 AM
I would invite @oldlawyer, @welh and @kathryn51 to join this club. I skipped episode 50 of the real, so I may not qualify lol
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icelandsoon
September 16, 2023 at 8:35 AM
Loving sunshine by my side - I think I’m one of the recommenders - but do feel free to fast forward (ahem hockey couple). Can’t believe it’s wrapping up this weekend. Love these leads!
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 8:41 AM
I'm liking it too! But life got in the way and I haven't moved past Ep. 13. Will definitely binge in full now that it'll be over soon (with generous FFing where needed 😛).
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Ziziboice
September 16, 2023 at 6:47 PM
So agree with you on "moving" (the only drama I'm watching rn) but I'm still keeping an eye on "my lovely liar" from faaaaar away too kkk
Anyway what's wrong with a "LGBT character becoming a murderer because of unrequited love"? We saw tons of murderers in dramas who were straight ppl becoming murderer because of unrequited love it's almost a cliche in kdramas. Yes it was out of nowhere and a bad twist in the story but not because the character is a LGBT person because it was not a good move to solve mysteries imo. Anyway thank you for your review
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2 jerrykuvira
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
Dinner Mate - Jae-hyuk got on my nerves in many ways more than one. Hae-kyung's mom's death shocked me to the bones. I didn't like how No-eul wasn't let in the know about her death. It was a far stretch.
Moving - Bong-seok flew🤭🤭🤭. It's gonna be lit and fire next week.
Destined With You - So what's up with the spell? I thought cure disease worked so what's this development we are getting now.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:20 AM
Jerry, in every real sense why do we have a plot in DWY? Shouldn’t it all be fixed now? They’re in love, he’s healed, done!! 😀😂
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 8:26 AM
The only reason I can think of is: he's healed but the family curse isn't lifted, so they still have to deal with all the past-life stuff and present-day stalkery stuff, however that ties in, to finally end the curse. But if that's the case, the show needs to just say so!
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3 Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 5:00 AM
Live Watches
My Lovely Liar: Hoping we get Deuk-chan’s whole story this week, and it turns out to be complicated and fraught and riddled with mistakes. Also hoping that we get a nice musical conclusion for Do-ha, Convenience Store Guy, Former Idol Hyung, and even, because I’m feeling generous, Sha-on. Jazz Club Ajusshi doesn’t need a good ending, he’s already doing great.
The Uncanny Counter 2: I put my live watch on hold, but now I’m back at it. I love the characters so much that I’m willing to overlook some other things that are not as great, and even when the overall story isn’t thrilling me, I’m still loving the moments we have between our counters as they navigate this unknown situation.
The Killing Vote: Haven’t had a chance to watch this week, so this is up next! Turns out having a new job really sucks your free time away. Who would have thought?
Moving: My initial plan was to wait for this to come out completely and then watch, but my non-drama-watching partner asked me if any Beanies were talking about it because he’s been hearing about it through non-kdrama media and was interested. And when my partner asks me to watch a kdrama with him - how could I possibly refuse? We are slowly plugging away, mostly on the weekend, but it’s been fantastic so far. Just as good as everyone said it would be.
Older Dramas
The Secret Romantic Guesthouse: Even Yoo-ha turned out to be a more interesting character than I was expecting! And I loved that our girl’s mad archery skills came in clutch in the end. I gotta say: I usually dread the final episode time-jump, but this might have been the best use of it I’ve ever seen. We get to see the people who already knew what they wanted happy and together, the people who had to grow into new roles have grown into them, and the people who needed a minute to figure things out had a chance to do just that before tying it all up in a pretty bow. Shout out goes to (I never thought I’d say this) the Dowager Queen, for enduring more tragedy than anyone else, but being absolutely ready to grab whatever joy was offered to her, and to figure out how to protect what was important, both in the country and in her family.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:23 AM
*grumble* jobs *grumble*
Really? Moving has made it past the blood-k-drama-obsessed-brain barrier into the Real World™????? That’s amazing!! I can totally see why, but didn’t know that had happened. Make sure you comment on the recaps as you go (if I can be bossy)…they’re filled with great Beanies, but not very extensive. I bet a lot of us would go back and respond (to remember and recap the recap, so to speak) if you posted.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:44 AM
I'm surprised too. K-dramas are all the rage where I am. But anything on Disney? Crickets.
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Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 6:53 AM
Yes! Polygon had a really nice article about it (and how it’s way better than anything Marvel has come up with lately), so it popped up onto his radar.
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Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 6:50 AM
Good to know! I haven’t been reading the weecaps in this case, but I’ll have to go back and check them out.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 6:59 AM
As another Beanie commented, Moving is a classics in the making. It will be a massive hit bigger than Squid Game if streamed on Netflix. Its fantasy component is of course top notch and superbly delivered but the greatest asset is its laser focus on people, parental love and family values - the heart and soul that’s lacking in Squid Game.
The production value is almost unmatched when compared with other big budget kdrama production.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:08 AM
The production is incredible. And the show brings so much warmth to the characters. I slowed down a bit in the middle but hoping to watch a few more episodes this weekend.
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4 HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
Ongoing:
Han River Police: I tried this out of curiosity because I thought it might be like the drama version of Extreme Job, but, you know, on a river... First impressions: sometimes funny (that absolutely CHAOTIC training exercise that descended into madness), but mostly dumb fun, with a good cast. I'm guessing it will get darker and more violent as we uncover more crimes and conspiracy, so I'll see how long I hold on.
Previously-Aired:
Showtime Begins: (through ep 3) I'm taking a similar approach as I did with Bring it On, Ghost, and using FF through all the scary stuff. The FL could be a little less shouty for my taste, but other than that, it's fun so far! I really like Park Hae Jin, and I'm enjoying the comedy, and I love Park Hae Jin's approach to physical comedy - he's like a grumpy stork 😂
Mad Dog: (through ep 3) It really hasn't gripped me yet, but I don't mind, because I'm watching for Woo Do Hwan 😁 @attiton and I are doing a watch-and-chat on the fanwall; join us if you want to watch, too!
Dropped:
Welp, I've dropped so many dramas this week that are past my thresholds for certain things... (1) To the Destined With You writers, doubling-down on the cheating/affair approach was NOT the right choice; bye 👋 (2) After taking a "wait and see" approach, I'm not continuing with Moving because of the graphic, pervasive violence. It's a good drama with a great cast, but I don't want to push myself past what I'm willing to take in with regard to violence. (3) I'm also not continuing Someday or One Day because the sadness affects me too much (and I'll be skipping A Time Called You for the same reason). It's hard to drop good dramas, but I also want to respect my emotional boundaries for what I can handle in what I watch! Shoutout to @mindy, 🙌 who had a very timely reminder on her fanwall about dropping dramas that just aren't right for you!
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Glad you're enjoying Now It's Showtime!!
And good on you for respecting your boundaries, it's so important to do that and I for one never do it enough (and then suffer as a consequence) - 👏 for the reminder about self-care and self-love!!
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:13 AM
Aww thanks @lapislazulii! 🥰 It's hard - I do get FOMO hearing Beanies enjoying a drama I've dropped - but I want to acknowledge the things that bother me in a plot, if it means it should be a drop for me. I am open to eventually finishing DWY and Moving (*with FF*) depending on how they handle things... but for now, I'll enjoy reading Beanies reacting to them 😊
And thank you again for plugging Now It's Showtime - I'm enjoying it very much!!!
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 6:47 AM
I find that what most often keeps me watching a drama I'm not enjoying is positive buzz from the DB community; I keep thinking that there must be something I'm just not seeing. It's taken some time, but I've grown more comfortable about going with what I'm actually feeling about a show vs. what I think I should be feeling. Despite how many people have told me how much they love Brussels sprouts, I've eaten them enough times to know they're not for me! 🤮
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 6:51 AM
Ohhh... "going with what I'm actually feeling about a show vs. what I think I should be feeling" 👈 that is SUCH a good distinction, Babylilo!!! Sometimes it's hard to disentangle one from the other.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM
I think I just heard you compare Rowoon to Brussels sprouts. 😆
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 9:06 AM
I’ve only seen Rowoon in Tomorrow, which is not enough of a sampling to put him the Brussels sprouts category just yet. Rather than individual actors, my Kdrama Brussels sprouts tend to be genres, which generally include shows described as “wacky” or “idol drama.”
Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 11:17 AM
I have mixed feelings about brussels sprouts. I feel like they get some things right (cute size and sweet&bitter taste) but some things wrong (texure: either undercooked/ too hard or overcooked/ mushy) It's so hard to get the texture just right when cooking brussel sprouts. And they taste bad if you don't eat them immediately after roasting. So I thought it was just me being picky. But then I went to Thailand and had a vegetable that is very similar to brussel sprouts with the qualities that I love about them: sweet, slightly bitter, leafy. But without the qualities I didn't like about them! These Thai style brussel sprouts are easy to cook to the right texture. I forget the exact name, but they're like brussel sprouts but the leaves are opened, not tightly bunched together. The texture is so good compared to brussel sprouts. I realized then that brussel sprouts was a proximity infatuation. It was close to perfection but had some design issues.
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 11:24 AM
Whenever I would mention to someone that I didn’t like Brussels sprouts, invariably they’d tell me I’d never tasted them properly prepared. Then I’d try them at their favorite restaurant and still hate them. (BTW - I’m not a picky eater and am open to trying unfamiliar foods.) I’ll have to look into the Thai variety. I had a similar experience with okra; I didn’t like it until I had the Chinese version, which is now a dish I almost always order whenever I’m at a Chinese restaurant.
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:15 AM
I think many beanies rightly wrote that Someday is about grief that spans time. That's hard. But A Time Called You is about a love that spans time. You'll be plenty sad along the way, but you'll be all right in the end. But to echo what Lapis said, you need to respect your boundaries.
I'd love to join you and Seon-ha on some other group drama watch one day. Mad Dog isn't for me.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:26 AM
Thank you @indyfan 🥰 And I have so many older/previously-aired dramas on my Watchlist, we should definitely do another group watch-and-chat!
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:31 AM
I’ll go one further. Knowing that @indyfan would join in means that we should consider planning the next one with her (in mind) to ensure this critically important participation!!!
Indy, I don’t want to get too ahead of myself as I have Mad Dog to
slog throughget to (they promise it gets better!!!), but do you have a drama that you’d like to watch in community?Everyone should also know that I promise to be less verbose than I was in week one of Mad Dog. I just get so excited to talk.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:52 AM
Hm. You've all probably seen everything I haven't. But a few off the top of my head: Unlock My Boss, Into the Ring, Startup, Extraordinary You... I can come up with more later. But better if y'all share your list and we can all cross-check. After Mad Dog ofc.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 7:57 AM
OMO @indyfan - Unlock My Boss and Into the Ring are two of my absolute favorites... if you watch those, I may rewatch them (again) 😁😁😁
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 8:09 AM
@hopefulromantic *you* are one of the reasons they're on the top of my list. but we should watch something new for all of us. something good but obscure. i can't name it, but that's because it's obscure.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:23 AM
@indyfan hmm I may have mentioned those dramas once or twice 🤔 Haha!
We should compare lists on the fanwall somewhere after Mad Dog!
Linarrick
September 17, 2023 at 2:21 AM
Curious if @indyfan @attiton @hopefulromantic watched Ex-Girlfriends' Club? It’s a romantic comedy, and kinda underrated in my opinion
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 4:05 AM
@linarrick I’ve not!
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 17, 2023 at 4:08 AM
@linarrick - that one hasn't been on my list yet.
Linarrick
September 17, 2023 at 4:19 AM
@hopefulromantic @attiton@indyfan The drama doesn’t feature a serial killer I promise! Also it’s only 12 episodes, was actually cut down due to low ratings but I’d argue that was a good thing for the show as it didn’t drag.
Here the link to the review:
https://www.dramabeans.com/2015/06/ex-girlfriend-club-series-review/
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:35 AM
@linarrick I have never heard of it. Will check it out. Thank you.
Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:28 AM
How great that you know, but also 🤙maintain🙌your🫰emotional boundaries!!!
Teach me. Teach me! 😘
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:36 AM
Haha Seon-ha 🥰 I think part of knowing my thresholds is, if a drama makes me feel icky, anxious, or angry long after I'm not watching an episode - if it lingers into real life, so to speak - and the payoff doesn't feel like a good emotional price to pay - that's generally a tipping point for me.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:49 AM
But how do you stop wanting to know if they FIX IT in the end? That’s what gets me. I want the show to make me feel better—I mean it got me into this mess in the first place—by figuring out its shit and resolving my personal issues.
Oh, I think I see the problem.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 6:06 AM
😂❤️
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 6:53 AM
...wanting to know if they FIX IT in the end?
You can spare yourself the angst and read the recaps!
Unaspirated
September 16, 2023 at 8:28 AM
This is such a good measure! My most recent drop, I was still pretty annoyed the next day, so it fits that criterion perfectly.
Has Dramabeans ever had a larger discussion about how Beanies decide to stick with a drama or drop it? I’d love to have one (maybe in a Drama Chat post?) if it hasn’t happened yet. Just kind of organize all the different strategies into one place!
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:30 AM
Yes, I also thought it would be like Extreme Job! I may not even try then... 😒
I think with dramas it is like with love, timing is extremely important. When my mom passed away, there were dramas/movies I just was not able to watch, regardless how great they were. And then, some time later, there were dramas, like Someday Or One Day, or It's a Little Spicy Today (I forgot the English title, Recipe for Farewell?), which came at the right time and resonated with me and my inner grief.
So... like with love, follow your heart. 😘❤️
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 5:40 AM
That's such good advice, @dorotka! ❤️ I think you're right that timing in life makes a difference in dramas resonating with us or not.
And don't worry - Han River Police is not like Extreme Job 😅
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:53 AM
It's interesting to see how different people define their boundaries; what pushes their emotional buttons enough to make them drop a show. Despite the characters' struggles and heartbreaks, Someday or One Day did not make me particularly sad—not even the ending.
My tolerance for violence depends on the context. What often upsets me most is the "casual" violence—typically women hitting their children, siblings, or spouses, or men smacking their male subordinates—that seems so common in Kdramas and is sometimes even played for laughs. I often find it worse than the stabbings, gang fights, etc., and I certainly never find it amusing.
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:42 AM
I really enjoyed Showtime Begins and it wasn't one of those dramas that got much buzz, so I'm glad you're enjoying it a year after it airs!
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:00 AM
Yes it's great fun so far, and I'm really enjoying the vibe/chemistry between the ML and FL! I really liked Park Hae Jin as a romantic lead in Forest, and he was hilarious with his physical comedy in Man to Man, and this drama seems like it combines both of those things!!😁
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5 Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
LIVE WATCHES
Destined with You
I’m all in. Too far in. I will be hurt by this drama, but right now…don’t care.
Moving
I am going to take @mellowarmadillo’s advice and wait until the last three have dropped so I can see the whole “ending” arc.
My Lovely Liar
…is dead to me. I’ll probably watch the episodes next week, but only because I said I would AND I’m a masochist-completist. This past week’s episodes actually ruined my sleep.
FROM THE RESERVES
Mad Dog
I’ve picked up my viewing of this drama for the low-stakes community fan wall community convo! Yay!
ON DECK
My Liberation Notes
Still waiting for the chaos of my life to be solved for good. Too high a bar??
PS: Tried Han River Police but it’s not my thing. I may pick up Kidnapping Day (or whatever they’re calling it now), but probably need to wait a week or two to see how the writer/PD plans to unfold the scenario. It could easily hit too close to home on one of my greatest fears.
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:10 AM
masochist-completist -> omg this is the term I needed, describes me to a T
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:18 AM
I feel so relieved I dropped MLL a while ago after hearing its recent turn. I shouldn't gloat tho. I might get to use the tag for DWY soon enough. LOL.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 5:50 AM
Oh, you have so many Internet Friends who will report to you how it goes. I’ve learned that there are sufficient DWY lovers and “accepters” that my gifs are still welcome…so you can also look to those to keep you apprised 😇
I am here to encourage other people to drop when I, clearly, cannot. I shall live vicariously through others—which is probably related to why I can’t drop shows. See a *mess,* that’s what I am.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 6:56 AM
You won't get rid of me that easily! Well, at least till the next round of episodes. 😂 Plus, I'd miss out on all the gifs, memes, fan wall chatter. I'm already missing @hopefulromantic contributions. But I'll Hopeful in the next drama.
6 cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:01 AM
CRICKET - Kiwis did such good introduction of their team. Stokes - woah - time to shine
I'm still waiting for the media PR, buzz and hype that should be there for a world cup in a festival season. Where are brands and companies. As common sense say a few of Sports journaists have written articles about how upcoming Cricket sport event will be another political campaign, image buildup event management. This now happens with every sport event. Everyone loves to milk such opportunities but in Cricket it becomes frustrating because 70% of revenue if coming from India - the big 3 - India, England and Austrlaia are criticised for taken most share of earnings and they dictate terms of everything. Earlier it was England and Australia and now india with hefty money hand. Money speaks and speaks louder but it never benefits the sport at all. It's the female cricket that actually brought cricket to more regions compared to male cricket and it when there is almost no infrastructure and support for female cricket almost all regions.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:11 AM
JAPAN - New dramas coming but Marie's tv show is good even with all the foolish drama that is so not needed
Hikari's tv show - 4.5/10 - from what angle you add love in this drama - Hikari's attires surely are simple, natural and good.
Johnny's idols drama - 4/10 - dumb but hero team winning timepass.
Few weeks back i talked about Johnny's - same - If you ever visited internet groups - read gossip magazines or rumours then you must have known what they do and how they do and how much power they have - This month hasn't gone good for johnny's after losing business everywhere and yet they are shilling aka promoting thei idol's movies and dramas so easily. shows the power and relationships build over time - scratch each other's back. This is why you see Johnny's idols in every show, drama n movie - lots n lots of behinds the scenes action - but that's what media industry for you - You just feel like mocking the lunatic fans who put them on pedestal when all these idols are no better than shit.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:26 AM
TURKISH - Family drama - romance drama - marriage event.
KOREA - Need to say anything - garbage all around
Weekend - new drama - Uee - Let's if it has atleast some story or not.
Become a sports agent and get around pretty girls or be a hero. From horny heroines to the ones warming the bed - dramas haven't gone anywhere. still horny vs. bed vs. trolly which one is better.
ARTH - Kim ok Bin is driving the story with minimal of screentime - that shows how poor 1st week was. cliche switching not doing much. Still the best of the month.
Nam Gong Min - does shit shows but his characters eat max. screentime - he's smart and so is his manager - More the visibility more the brand value - His characters usually are your typical korean heros and his style is actually imposed on characters - This is superficial self-insert to engage wth audience. This just helps him come out at top - This is smart move and well crafted image that generates double ratings but the max. benefit is also reserved for him. Good business but nothing much to put on table as for acting n skills.
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cat-cric-kat
September 16, 2023 at 5:32 AM
CHINA -
My journey to you - 4/10 - stupid drama - cliche over cliche - good concept but very bad story n plot as well as execution - all prop, more face value - less on substance.
South Wind Blows - 4.5/10 - typical generic chinese omance but toned down a bit.
Korea - Cinema - Moon - 4/10 - stupid soap cinema - U can see the level of audience too through this trash because they can't fathom much about SPACE - overly dramatic, sentimental, convenient, illogical - full of glycerin tears - more ignorance and superficial - easy to know this a korean media - so much nonsense that u feel headache.
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7 Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:02 AM
I was ready to dive into A Time Called You (and into the discussions and comparisons with the original drama afterwards)... but... then Fake It Till You Make It happened and I put everything else on pause. This is a drama which grows on you and when it does you just can't leave it. It's also one of the few cdramas when I wish I could speak the language as I felt some nuances and wordplays were lost in translation. That still didn't prevent me from loving the main couple and having this huge crush on Tang Ying, she is joining my other girl crushes - Kim Samsoon and Gu Sera. No wonder Elvis was so smitten (and immediately bought that famous friendship ring, ha). He finally found someone with whom he could be himself, and in love, no games played. Their talks were the best parts... and the two confessions I have on repeat. They Are So BEAUTIFUL! ❤️
Destined
I still had fun, yes, I'm not above some petty shuffling of the chairs, 😁 but.... I also got quite disappointed this week. The show chose some paths I didn't want it to tread... and (together with Rowoon) is unfortunately loosing its Spell over me. I'm still hoping it will Get a Grip.
No time for anything else and from the little of the buzz about Liar I managed to catch I should maybe spent those 2 hours elsewhere? Like... on Han River Police?? 😆
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:07 AM
I forgot to add, what was that Shin-yu's remark about Hongjo's name, that he wrongly assumed that her name meant Red? Is there some connection with the Hand? Like... he fantasised about Hongjo??
Or is my mind treading the wrong
gutterpath as well?? 🙈#Destined
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:07 AM
The “hong” can mean red—Jae-kyung also made that connection when she blushed in an early episode. What I felt Hong-Jo did in that moment (if I can be cheesy for a sec) is “change her destiny.” It’s assumed that she’s one type of woman from her name, but she knows her father meant something else for her to live up to….
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 6:20 AM
I was more focused on the Redness. 😁
Do you think it is just a coincidence or that there is some connection with the Red Hand??
(Though I'm not sure why I'm trying to find some logic in this show. 😆)
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:39 AM
I really haven’t thought the Red Hand through, I think, in part, because I’m worried that it’s going to end up being a MacGuffin rather than something interesting.
If I were to guess, though, hmm. Well, having made gifs of those scenes, I’ve seen them a LOT. There’s definitely (sexual) comfort, but also fear.
Maybe what I’d do is connect this thought to @ceciliedk ‘s incisive comments above about SY being, for all intents and purposes, isolated and alone—but craving real companionship.
I mean, in its own way, the Red Hand may be serving the same purpose for SY as chaebol dude is for NY…comfort without connection.
As to where the Red Hand comes from, it’s his own twisted fantasy of what it must feel like to be “with” someone. He talks about it with that doctor in the benighted “neural coupling” conversation. He is getting a taste of what that’s actually like with HJ, though…and there’ll be no going back :)
darwi
September 16, 2023 at 12:51 PM
Thanks to your comment on Fake it, I have been able to convince my watching friend to watch it with me. We are behind, because she's not as taken as us but I don't mind since it give me more time to appreciate it. In a sea of disappointing drama, this one stands out.
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8 lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:05 AM
Still watching my usual roster of My Lovely Liar (is falling apart a little bit for me), Destined With You (going strong mess and all) and have Moving on hold while the rest of the season airs so I can binge the last few episodes. 36000 Seconds In A Day also put on hold because I was a bit busy this week and couldn't fit it in :(
I've now also just started (like literally today) Fake It Till You Make It thanks to the Beanie hype here and CEO-dol Mart. Eyeing Parallel World but till wait till I finish a show before staring it!
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lapislazulii
September 16, 2023 at 5:14 AM
*but I'll wait till
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:08 AM
@mindy really put me off CEO-dol Mart with her smart Fan Wall post. I’ll be interested to hear other comments about it, but if it is, in any way, the way she says it is (cheap and unfunny—my paraphrasing, not her eloquent words)…eek!
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mindy
September 16, 2023 at 6:32 AM
It’s more like it’s just… like I said, it gives off school play vibes lol. You have all these very inexperienced actors/idols who are probably trying their very best with a super simple script. Everything from the acting to the directing to the writing screams “rookie” and “web drama”.
I just don’t really have the patience for that sort of vibe. I’m sure others will find it charming. 😉 All these people have to learn their craft somewhere, so if this is a learning vehicle for the next generation, I think that’s good. I just won’t be watching, lol!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 6:39 AM
Thanks for the DB Wooga squad community service directing us to Mindy’s fan wall post on this drama.
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9 Radily
September 16, 2023 at 5:06 AM
The Kidnapping Day (Episode 1-2) - Mood: C+
It’s almost a pity that the narrative seems to be leaning towards an all-out conspiracy surrounding Ro Hee’s father as there is so much fun watching the dynamic between Ro Hee and Myung Jun. Now that she knows the truth, it could become quite interesting to see her maintain her own kidnapping. But I fear there might be sci-fi elements too with the brain thing and all.
My Lovely Liar (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D
This is just Crash Course in Romance all over again with the obsessive best-friend-cum-employer being the culprit except with a different motivation driving the fixation. On one hand, I’m glad that Yoon Ji On got to showcase what he is capable of for those who persisted through the show, on the other hand, that’s some interesting LGBT representation.
Destined With You (Episode 7-8) - Mood: D-
They really went and outdid themselves by making the 2FL a hypocritical cheater so that the two-timing ML doesn’t look so bad in comparison? And we know that the Haum CEO will bring about City Hall drama down the road, which is a boring pile of crap I’m not looking forward to with the FL being collateral damage. We’re also stuck with the stalker for one more week.
The Killing Vote (Episode 6) - Mood: D+
I hope Min Soo isn’t the real Gaetal and this is a red herring but it’s not out of the realm of impossibility given that he’s No.1 Fan based on the testimony from Gaetal’s accomplice. And I guess if we go along this route then it’s likely Mu Chan already knew all of this and is just bidding his time to take him down. But yeah, we’ll see if the writer has any tricks up their sleeves.
Moving (Episode 16-17) - Mood: D+
While I can understand why the North Koreans are out for revenge following a political assassination, it doesn’t really make for interesting watching when everything is just theatrical posturing and pointless CGI-enhanced action scenes. Also, we’re near the finale and the show still insists on dragging things out through dramatic cliffhangers: let the story speak for itself?
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:39 AM
That they made the SFL cheater (and with such a scumbag) was actually one of my biggest disappointments with the show.
#Destined
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:49 AM
Same. I love the writing in the banter and dialogue for this show, but some of the characterizations made me question the writer's values - so the writer thinks it's okay that the ML is cheating because the 2FL is an even worse cheater? LIke it cancels out or something?
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10 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 16, 2023 at 5:06 AM
Behind Your TouchThe Gum-Butt Show: 8.0 After the recap mentioned "Mouth of Truth" I had to look it up to fully appreciate the "Butt of Truth".A Time Called You: 5.0 (for ep 5 / 7) 💤💤 Still hoping it will live up to the hype, some day or... One problem is the colors are so washed out. I'm used to timey-wimey shows doing that for the past/flashback bits, but here they have the whole thing washed out and they washed away the suspense and excitement too.
My Lovely Liar: 8.5 "Culprit" confesses -- but in day 13. Experienced k-watchers know that's too early and too easy. We could have believed it if he fessed up in day 15. As for who actually did it -- ok; but WHY he seems to have done it 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 (unless they pull another twist on us next week). I can be quite tolerant of "politically incorrect" and insensitive things, but where they seem to be going is too much even for me. That ringing in her ears near the end makes me fear that we might not even get any cute case-of-the-week for the show to end on.
My Lovely Boxer: 7.5 Both "Lovely" shows this week had un-lovely suicides or at least attempts.
Moving: 9.5 Han Hyo-joo taking off her glasses at the end of 17!!!
Destined With You: 8.0
Han River Police: 2.0 Not offensively bad, just boring and unoriginal. But at just 6 episodes it's a full Bean for less than half price. Was the cruise ship wreck inspired more by the Sewol or the Costa Concordia?
The Day: 8.5 Everything that Han River isn't.
Killing Vote: 6.0 Can we vote to kill the writers who stick us with bad endings to shows that started well?
Regarding the search for Sol-hee's missing pet turtle in Lovely Liar: turtles are considered auspicious in that part of the world, for reasons such as their longevity, protective shells, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_turtles
But also, in Chinese slang "turtles head" is a guy's pen*s. This is not officially listed as one of the reasons why turtles are considered lucky, but... And I'll never get tired of mentioning that when kdramas give me opportunities like this. Remember it was her love interest who found it.
This week's quiz: which THREE current shows does Kim Hee-won appear in?
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:49 AM
Agree about the colour filter thing for A Time Called You. They didn't even do good post-production on it. In one scene, on a bus, their cream-yellow school vests had suddenly become light pink 🤦♀️.
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miso
September 16, 2023 at 5:51 AM
Also to answer the quiz about the ubiquitous Kim Hee-won - Moving, Han River Police, and Behind Your Touch 😅.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:15 AM
But without her powers, Sol-hee gets to be a regular girl , docile and jobless, just right for our handsome Do-ha so that he might never feel threatened again. Isn’t it great????
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11 welh
September 16, 2023 at 5:07 AM
BUTT TOUCH (Ep 9-10) I think we have been desensitized because of the greater purpose of the butt touching as an investigative tool, abet a warrantless search. It was about time to narrow down the suspect list. Grandpa’s personal investigation of Ye-bun’s parents death and Cha’s success as the new assemblyman even after land scandal is compelling but could be a red herring. The clue about the third psychic at the barn touching metal could mean that he sees memories through a person’s contact with metal objects, like a phone. That puts Seon-Woo in the spotlight, but likely a diversion at this point in the series. Clearly, he has a grudge against Cha.
The Detective’s civilian investigation team was good as we finally got to “see” the logic and progression of narrowing down the suspects. There are coincidences and overlap to find the third psychic but there is still some doubt about the killer. The story this week was hard core crime solving with little of the rural goofiness of the town folk.
COLD BLOODED INTERN (Ep. 9-10) It is getting a little goofy and dark. Of course, Hae-Ra is the star of the company soccer game without knowing how to play. Of course, Choi’s taking dirty orders from her boss in an attempt to get a promotion she will probably not get. She knows she is being used. Of course, Hae-ra tells her not to trust upper management but Choi says she is using them. Of course, Episode 9 ends with a medical emergency for Hae-Ra to handle. Of course, it is waved off at the beginning of Episode 10 only to conclude with the past coming back to haunt both Hae-Ra and Choi. This show is running its course in a very, very basic format.
THE REAL HAS COME AND GONE: Only watched the last third and it was a terrible rage watch.I did like the misery loves company aspect of the Hang-Out group. I do not want to claim a Bean for this one. What is the opposite of a Bean? a) a rock, b) a weed, c) a thorn or d) a grain of sand.
THE COLLAPSE OF DAEWOO (YouTube: K-Doc) A KBS documentary on the collapse of conglomerate Daewoo in 1999 due to massive debt and $43.5 billion accounting fraud. The documentary is a throw back record of how South Korea went from post-war poverty to regional industrial power. The first chaebols believed that exports were the key for economic growth because SK had scant natural resources for manufacturing. Trade goods became the heart of the economy from late 1960s to mid 1980s. Companies were aligned closely with government to push worker sacrifices (like 16 hour work days in a military-cult fashion). In 1987, a worker during a labor strike was killed by police which turned the public against chaebol corporations. In 1997, the IMF crisis wiped out many former large business groups which led to greater public destain of businessmen. It was an interesting film archive of how SK looked and acted prior to the hallyu wave. It did show the cultural reason why chaebols are often the villains in k-dramas. However, a recent poll in...
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welh
September 16, 2023 at 6:08 AM
...in South Korea found 60% of the public admires large corporate chaebols which probably reflects the dreams of many people to make it rich in a down economy.
A TIME CALLED YOU (Ep. 4-12) I was not familiar with the original material, so I will take this remake for its own production and story. The script weaved many elements both dreamlike and real so really cannot tell what is right and which is wrong. There are conflicting statements by characters which can in fact be true if put into context. The writer and director appeared to be on the same page painting an impressionistic portrait rather than a boilerplate puzzle in the early stages of the series, but the direction and editing did not give clarity to the foundational story line.
Overall, the series was good but it left open many key points. What happens when you have two body swap love triangles? A Love Star?
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 7:20 AM
While they resent the "super-rich" as a group, Americans tend to respect and admire individual billionaires, such as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates. I only wish people would understand that Elon, Jeff, Bill, and their cohorts made their fortunes on the backs of us ordinary folks. They earned their billions by stifling competition, underpaying their workers, and using their wealth to secure favorable legislation and regulations. It's encouraging to see Google being sued by the government for operating an illegal monopoly, but I seriously doubt they will be forced to change their ways. They've been allowed to amass too much money and too much power to be held to account.
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:06 AM
I too rage watched the last episodes of THE REAL HAS COME. But I also watched all of the episodes that came before. A hate watch can be fun: I was able to release my inner snark on every episode of FOREST as one example.
A rage watch is something else: It is what you feel when a show that seems to start well not only goes sideways but does so by failing to deliver on every dramatic promise it made to the viewer. The audience has a sense of having been betrayed by the show which has in effect committed drama fraud.
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12 Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:08 AM
COMPLETED:
Someday or One Day - The producers of A Time Called You are either brave or foolhardy in remaking this Taiwanese series, which sets a very high bar indeed.
The star of the show is undoubtedly the script. At times I wished I had a flowchart to keep track of all the time jumps, body switches, and interrelated causes and effects, but ultimately I was able to keep up (at least I think I was) without getting frustrated by the complex, intricate, twisty plot. The show packed a lot into its 13 episodes—besides romance, mystery, murder, and time-travel, it explored themes such as friendship, homophobia, mental health, family, and identity. Writing, direction, music, and visual design combined to bring together all these moving parts into a coherent, cohesive whole—exemplary world-building.
With the exception of the standard-issue psycho villain, I found all the characters relatable and compelling. Leads Ko Chia-Yen and Greg Hsu were standouts; kudos to Ko in particular for a finely-detailed performance in the challenging central role(s). Special mention to adorable scene-stealer Zheng You-Fei as the young Huang Yu-Xuan!
3-Iron - An odd, subversive little movie from 2004, directed by Kim Ki-Duk. Jae Hee plays a mysterious, silent drifter who breaks into houses and apartments while the owners are away and makes himself at home. He wanders around the house, fixing things, doing the laundry, watering the plants, and taking selfies. One day he lets himself into a fancy home, unaware that the equally silent woman of the house (Lee Seung-Yeon) has been there watching him the whole time. I won’t reveal anything more about what happens, but the story is—to say the least—unconventional. It’s a moody, mystical, romantic film with a quirky sense of humor. I enjoyed it, but I suspect it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:09 AM
DROPPED:
The Lucifer - Dropped in the middle of episode 5. This heavy-handed 2007 drama really shows its age. The three lead roles were overacted (Uhm Tae-Woong), underacted (Ju Ji-Hoon), and underwritten (Shin Min-A, not her fault). I heard some good buzz about the show from other Beanies, but I didn’t have the patience to stick with it to see if it got any better.
White Christmas - Dropped in the middle of episode 2. The familiar murder-mystery trope—a group of people are stranded in an isolated place with a killer in their midst—overlaid with the standard tortured-teen tropes (drug abuse, self-harm, dashed dreams, abusive/neglectful parents, etc.). I wasn’t interested enough in the characters to stick around to find out the who/when/where/how of the murder mystery.
BOOKS:
The Old Woman With the Knife, by Gu Byeong-Mo - Reading that this book was about an aging female assassin, I expected something along the lines of Kill Boksoon, but that’s not what I got. Hornclaw, the unassuming 65-year-old ajhumma of the title, is winding down her career as an elite assassin, as her mind and body are no longer up to the demands of the job. But retirement isn’t easy for an assassin who’s got somebody following her looking for revenge. This short, entertaining, often funny novel—narrated from Hornclaw’s wry perspective—touches on topics as varied as ageism, sexism, corporate bureaucracy, social and economic inequality, and the lingering effects of America’s military presence.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 7:11 AM
A pleasant surprise to see 3-Iron mentioned here! Kim KI-duck’s works are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but 3-Iron is unforgettable even though I had only watched it once like 15 years ago. It’s so unique and also the movie that put Jae Hee on the map before he became famed through Delightful Girl Chun Huang and other subsequent dramas. Where is he now???
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 7:37 AM
I didn't see anywhere that he had retired from acting. His last film appearance was in 2018, and his last tv drama was in 2021. According to Wikipedia, "[he] is currently running an online apparel shopping mall called Easy by Step..."
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 8:02 AM
Jae Hee not making it out of the 2000s into male lead status in primetime dramas is always a bit of a shock to me. His last 2 dramas were daily dramas. I hope he makes enough to raise his family comfortably.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 9:24 AM
It could be worse. A lot of times when I check to see why an actor is no longer working, it turns out to be because of some scandal or other.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 5:02 PM
I'm so afraid to have a favorite actor because the last two favorite actors ended up in major scandals that derailed their careers... the scandals happened after I started liking them :O Please, Lee Joon Hyuk, keep your pants on!!!
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13 indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:10 AM
After a packed drama schedule, I suddenly find myself both grateful for the break and twiddling my thumbs. Moving remains solid. I'm swaying on the fence with Destined With You. I'm waiting to try out Arthdal and, heaven help me, the new weekender Live Your Own Life.
So while I wait, I dove into Parallel World, the low-budget fantasy c-drama that recalls the dubious charms and bad CGI of the aughts (Firefly, Stargate, most SyFy shows of the era.) It has some fun world-building but it's the characters and relationships that are the stars. I have a mad girl crush on its wise-cracking, ass-kicking female lead, find the soft and serious male lead adorable, and their romance is just *chef's kiss* It takes me back to one of my favorite OTPs in Happiness. But that show didn't have Rooster—a literal chicken, not a nickname—as its breakout star. 😂
TL;DR A low-budget fantasy c-drama that's a trippy, swoony ride.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:17 AM
FWIW, I 100% think I’d be more into Parallel World than Fake It. I may try the former first if I ever decide to switch over to c-dramas (I’ve tried two of them before, and was not hooked [understatement]).
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 6:30 AM
Or you may cheat and watch last 10 min of ep 9 of Fake It so you know where you are heading to before you start from the beginning. 😁
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:45 AM
Thanks for the tip, @dorotka !!! I’m often up to just watching the best scenes of a show without needing those sad, slow “middle parts” with, like story or something 😀
Truly.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 7:11 AM
This one is not sad, nor is there unnecessary separation, but the pace is slow, there is some office drama (at works of both leads), a love story of FL sister etc. so it may be good to spoil yourself of what awaits you a bit further. 😉In the beginning, I was only interested in the main couple and their scenes, but later on some other dialogues/turns of events became interesting as well, some were even brutal (barns). So, I still think it is worth watching it all (sometimes with a bit of a help of ff button, like the sister's story).
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:06 AM
Get out!!! Don't get me excited if you don't mean it. Will you join @hopefulromantic @lapislazulii We'd have so much fun on the fan wall. It's so eminently giff-able/meme-able. My lame screenshots are not doing it justice. And if it means anything, I strike out with most C-dramas. These have been exceptions.
Pro Tip: Make friends with your fast-forward feature for the early episodes, most of which are only half hour or so. But unlike other dramas, this show flows uphill. So far.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 7:09 AM
I mean it. I live in a huge Firefly fan household. I've knitted Jayne's hat. Twice.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:24 AM
Ooh. Then you might like. It's not Firefly by any means. But it has those vibes you know. And probably the same 2000 CGI team. 😂
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:08 AM
@indyfan... so you know how I replied to you yesterday that I was going to wait for Parallel World to finish airing before starting? Well, I watched the first three episodes last night 😂 I LOVE it so far - it's not dubbed, the scenery is beautiful, the main characters feel layered and interesting, and after you mentioned it, I see there are distinct Stargate SG-1 vibes (which I'm a fan of!!) Lol guess what I'm going to be watching this weekend?? Your screenshots and @mayhemf 's gifs drew me in!!!
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 8:18 AM
Oh yay! *Does a little dance* If it means anything, the early episodes were a bit iffy to me, but as we approached the double digits, I was hooked. And don't be scared of double digits. The episodes are only half hour. We have a 5-day break so you can catch up, easy-peasy.
Also, don't look at my lame pics. @mayhemf is the rockstar here on the fan wall. (Also, Blue, *psst* it's working. We reeled one in. 😂)
BTW I can't believe I got someone else to admit they watched SG 1. 🙌
Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:27 AM
I think it's gonna be telling that @hopefulromantic chose Parallel Worlds over Mad Dog...I'm now waiting to see how this goes. We might have a total change of plans soon :)
Just keep me in the loop folks, I'll follow wherever you lead!!! @indyfan you're the svengali here :)
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:38 AM
@indyfan - when I noticed the eps were only about 30 minutes long, that definitely made me less wary about the episode count! They really fly by. Aww I loved Stargate SG-1- I watched it with my dad and brother when I was younger 😊
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:40 AM
Lol @attiton I chose BOTH 😂 I'm still watching Mad Dog, but I'm currently binging Parallel World. @indyfan I'm only in ep 4, but their chemistry is already so sparky??? Eee!!! 😆
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:40 AM
@hopefulromantic And that's why it's got a leg up on SG 1. PW does romance right. And, psst, it gets better!
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 17, 2023 at 6:54 AM
@indyfan - I'm through episode 17 of Parallel World! I LOVE IT. It's like the "stuck on an earth-like world and figuring out the customs and creatures" episodes of SG1 and Doctor Who, plus the desert realities, suspense, and slow-burn romance of the Amelia Peabody book series, plus action, plus a great cast, plus a rooster 🐓 IT'S SO ADDICTING!!! @lapislazulii are you going to try it out?
@attiton is your interest piqued yet? 😁 Never fear - I'm still making my way forward with Mad Dog, which I'm looking at as a showcase of Woo Do Hwan being wonderful.
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 7:19 AM
Oh I am not really worried about YOU @hopefulromantic ! You should be worried about ME!!! 😚
Yes, I’ll watch PW. I need to cut down my live-watches (something that’s happening organically anyway, I think).
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 7:33 AM
@hopefulromantic Whoa! You caught up fast. I'm so glad you're liking it. The burden of a failed recco is heavy indeed.
If you wish to repay me, I take payment in memes and gifs. Tho this time you have already paid me by getting @attiton on board. Apparently, they need a chorus. Now we just need Lapis...
LaurenSophie
September 16, 2023 at 11:49 AM
I have either deeply disliked or moderately disliked every c-drama I've tried. I often find the writing to be repetitious, simplistic, and borrrrrrring; I also typically find the pacing to be slow and repetitious; and the overall storyline starts to grate on my nerves by about episode four. But I really liked Fake It. It's the first cdrama I've seen that has a tight, coherent story that is both romantic and character-driven. Plus, the leads have fiery chemistry that carries through until the end. Another difference from other cdrama romances I've tried: there's a lot of great kissing and skinship and you can tell the characters have a healthy sex life once they get together.
The first couple of episodes are a bit painful because of the work stress both leads experience, but it's worth slogging through as the payoff definitely comes. And it's only 14 episodes, which means it wraps up at the precise right time.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:44 PM
Thank you for this, @laurensophie!!! I take your advice very seriously, as with all Beanies, but yours in particular.
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indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 2:07 AM
Whereas I have been singing its praises to no avail for so long… Called me svengali did you? 😤
More seriously, tho deeply mired in Chinese society, Fake It is quite a departure from your typical c-drama. It’s probably why so many Beanies are liking it. Similarly, Parallel World also deviates from the c-drama template while immersed in Chinese mythology. But that I can only recommend to a niche audience.
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 4:09 AM
Now, now, @indyfan, my most dearest Svengali of c-dramas…your opinion mattered first.
indyfan
September 17, 2023 at 6:42 AM
Smoooooth. You could be the Elvis of DramaBeans. And you'll get the reference after watching Fake It. 😜
14 KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 5:11 AM
COMPLETED:-
*My Dearest* - What I like the most about this show is that Gil-Chae and Jang-Hyun hardly ever do what you expect them to do. I never expected Gil-Chae to agree to Jang-Hyuk's plan as she knew too many people depended on her. However, I could believe that her love for him made her reckless enough to be swayed for some time, but not enough to abandon her people. Look forward to the second half of this unpredictable love story.
*The Uncanny Counter Season 2* - Coasted through on the goodwill of Season 1. Wasn't a bad watch but the drop in quality was very noticeable. 6.5 out of 10 Stars
*Love Class Season 2* - So much better than Season 1! Tells the stories of 3 couples in just 10 episodes of 25 minutes each, and does justice to all of them. 8.5 out of 10 Stars
*Jun & Jun* - Had a lot of flaws in terms of story and pacing but it was still the show among all my on-air shows that I looked forward to the most every week. That's coz it gave me what most romances this year couldn't - heart flutters! The chemistry between the MLs was smoldering. Hope to see these actors again soon in new shows, especially Ki HyunWoo who is magic on the screen! 8.5 out of 10 Stars
WATCHING:-
*My Lovely Liar* (14/16) - I don't get the obsession Korean romance writers have with murders and serial killers. Why do we need to have one of these in almost every romcom? Though I have to say that was one hell of a plot twist at the end of Ep 14. Didn't see that coming! And now so many things that happened earlier in the show suddenly make sense.
*My Lovely Boxer* (7/12) - Keeps getting better with every episode. Tae-Young and Kwon-Sook's slow burn romance is sweet, and all the women characters are very well written. Things went darker than I expected in Ep 7 but I don't mind it here. My only complaint is that Kwon-Sook's abusive father is being portrayed in a sympathetic light. Letting abusive characters get a redemption arc just coz they are family doesn't sit right with me.
*WhyRU Korea* (6/8) - Cute and funny. Much better written than the original Thai show. However, the shoestring budget shows in every frame.
*(Thailand) Naughty Babe* (2/8) - As ridiculous as its predecessor Cutie Pie, but that's its charm. The first 2 episodes were actually better than Cutie Pie in terms of pacing and humor. Hope the romance is better too.
*(Thailand) Dangerous Romance* (4/12) - Watching it for the leading man Perth, and while he doesn't disappoint, the show has been a little underwhelming till now.
*(Thailand) I Feel You Linger In The Air* (4/12) - This tender and sweet love story between two men from different eras has my heart. The makers have a vision and they have clearly spent big money to make it come alive. 1920s Thailand is gorgeously filmed, and the acting is one of the best I have seen in a Thai show. I hope it maintains this quality until the end.
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sorrynotsorry
September 16, 2023 at 7:29 AM
The romance/serial killer thing is lazy writing, but I think it is because a 16 hour drama about a romance is way too long. All the tired tropes from the old k-dramas like the love triangle and disapproving parents are still around, but were utilized way more in the past to push to 16 hours what should have been done in 8 to 10. At least with My Lovely Liar we knew going in instead of it surprising us midway.
It's been years since I checked out a Thai drama but I notice Viki started getting more.
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KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 8:03 AM
About time Kdramas cut down their stories to 10 or 12 episodes. That will take care of a lot of unnecessary fillers they are forced to add.
About Thai shows, IMO the best one for a newbie is F4 Thailand: Boys Over Flowers. I personally find it the best version of BOF.
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snancy
September 16, 2023 at 8:42 AM
@KDramaTipsy, I always prefer the 10-12 hour dramas! Even before the current murder trend (ugh), the dramas would start to drag with noble idiocy, etc. I wish the writers read Beanie comments!
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KDramaTipsy
September 16, 2023 at 9:16 AM
I think the Kdrama producers are realizing this. Lots of dramas lately having 12 episodes. May this become the norm soon!
nerdy
September 19, 2023 at 2:26 AM
If it is a 50 episodes drama, I drop it at episode 40-45; if it is 16 episodes one, I drop it at 12-13 and if it is a 12 episodes one, I drop it at 9-10 episodes.
Somehow, the writers are just terrible at planning the show and the weaker storylines come out regardless of how short the show's length is.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:05 AM
So wonderful to have someone mention
*Jun & Jun*
It too looked forward to it the most each week.
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KDramaTipsy
September 19, 2023 at 2:12 AM
Glad to know! I don't get the people who kept beating it up. The show never claimed to be anything other than a funny and fluffy romance, and it delivered with the chemistry.
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15 Kafiyah Bello
September 16, 2023 at 5:12 AM
My Lovely Liar: It is trundling along. We finished the whodunnit. I think he died, but can't be too sure.I feel bad for his daughter. This drama should have been 12 episodes and gotten rid of the whodunnit. It would have made for a better drama and wouldn't have stretched poor HMH to his very limited limit.
Destined with You: This is a very shallow drama with not great writing. Once that is understood the drama becomes much more enjoyable. Lol. I am enjoying the characters for what they are and waiting for a better kiss akin to episode 4 or 5 and not that blah one from 8. It looks like we are going into the past, which is great, maybe we will get the return or origin of the hand.
The Killing Vote: So our very booked and busy favorite resident slimeball chaebol actor Kim Kwon is clearly part of this plot to murder bad folks. I assume his weirdo oedipal relationship with his mother also includes murder. She seems to know he likes killing and doesn't mind. I figure he realized that if he kills it should be to the worse people so that he always has the public goodwill on his side. Why? I guess we will find out.
Moving: ANXIETY, that was the name of the game for these two episodes. Man it was tense.
Arthdal: The Horse made his appearance, everything else was the same nonsense, but I am content, lol.
I tried both Han River Policing and 7 escape. The former was boring and the latter too much in the first 45 mins.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:54 AM
I want a weekender for Kim Kwon!
A good one, of course.
And where he is the male lead, obviously. 🙂
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Kafiyah Bello
September 16, 2023 at 8:13 AM
I want to see him as ML too. I remember him in his pre-villain days lol. He is a solid actor and so pretty, and he played such a pleasant character in Heard it through the Grapevine. Give us more of that Kim Kwon.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM
I wanted so much more from his story in Marry Me Now!!
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16 ♡Peach_Mochi♡
September 16, 2023 at 5:13 AM
Behind Your Touch: It's zany, it's fun, and while there have been clues, I'm still in the dark as to the identity of the serial killer. Might be more than one baddie in town for our intrepid detectives to suss out. I'm looking forward to whatever the much-hyped Episode 11 has in store for us. Perhaps a step forward in the romance department? Or at least, the end of the FL's crush on the SML
Destined With You: Losing steam with this one but not ready to cut bait. I wish the most recent episodes hadn't leaned into my least favorite elements: the love triangle/square and SFL storylines. Given that we're only at the halfway point, I'm beginning to get concerned about how the writer plans to fill the rest of the episodes. The sageuk/past lives part would be very welcomed.
Parallel World: Totally addictive. Is it a fantasy? Desert adventure? Sci-fi? Slow-burn romance? Found family story? Amazing comedic turn by a rooster with great survival instincts? Yes to all of it. And totally entertaining to boot. Despite the chaotic situations in the plot, the writing is completely on point with character development and creating relationships that you will root for.
Fake It Till You Make It: Finished this one and can't say enough good things about it. Finally -- a drama that delivered a satisfying ending! Made doubly rewarding because it wrapped up a masterpiece of acting, storytelling and directing. Featured my favorite OTP in recent memory. You know how sometimes you harbor doubts about how long a fictional drama couple would actually be able to stay together despite the happy ending in the finale? Well -- if ever one was going to make it work, this OTP would. Their relationship arc was brilliantly portrayed in dialogue and deeds.
Wrong Carriage, Right Groom: The main couples are so solid, I'm trusting that the cartoonish villains won't come out ahead in the end. There's also a fair dose of female empowerment going on, with both FLs proving to be smart, capable partners to their spouses. Even the headstrong princess (so often put in a villainous role) is asserting that she should be able to marry for love instead of duty. And thank goodness the object of her affection returns her sentiments.
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 5:31 AM
Not only did I love the OTP in Fake It, I'm loving the OTP in Parallel World. Tho I may love the female lead even more. I just declared my girl crush on the fan wall. LOL. Forgotz to tag.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 5:58 AM
You are both tempting me with Parallel Worlds!! I just don't have enough time! 😭😭😭
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:04 AM
😭😭😭 real life sucks.
Hope you get some time later.
It’s such a Fun drama. Each episode is only 28 min minus the credits. So it zips by.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 7:16 AM
28 minutes? 🤔
*frantically rearranging the drama-watching schedule
indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 7:22 AM
This feels like early Fake It. Trying to sell it to one and all. 😀
Dorotka, you can use the FF here as well. Tho by *later* episodes you won't need to. It's a fast moving plot.
17 Kurama
September 16, 2023 at 5:15 AM
My Lovely Boxer Finally, the ML will fight and not just endure the whole mess.
My Lovely Liar I'm more interested to see her loosing her gift than the murder mystery. Her power was the interesting plot in this drama. But it was lost in the investigation, she was just lie detector. But the consequences, how it works, what place it takes in her life, etc. were barely adressed. KSH being a better actress, I'm happy the story is focusing on her even if she will have to suffer for it 😅
Destined With You The leads together are the best! Wether they're fighting, bickering, being cold to each other, flirting, etc. I'm never bored because their feelings feel real.
Behind Your Touch I'm kinda thing it's the kind of drama that missed the timing for romance now, so I'm not waiting for it anymore.
Moving At this point, I'm still waiting a flashback for the school guard and the new villain who can fly... I'm kinda disapointed they're fighting against the North Koreans and not their ex-boss...
Han River Police It's watchable nothing more.
CEO-dol Mart Like every Kdrama about idols, the half of the cast is very green... But there is Lee Sin-Young is good and cute!
@missvictrix I share your love for Rowoon. He's very good at a bus stop with drunk FL being very honest with their feelings :P
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:20 AM
The thing for me (and some others, right?) about Rowoon is that I also just can’t help but pay attention to his every move on screen. I don’t find him attractive just as a default, but when he’s in character, I can’t help myself but stare transfixed.
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Kurama
September 16, 2023 at 6:40 AM
I do find him attractive and often more when he's natural like in House on Wheels (but it didn't stop to buy a magazine with him on cover https://www.anothermag.com/design-living/15084/rowoon-ascent-from-korean-idol-to-global-icon-interview-sf9 the interview is interesting too of course)
But I really like to see him in a character too.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:48 AM
See, no…even with those model shots…he’s all yours. I mean very much that to each their own, but you can rest assured that I’ll stay in my corner :)
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 2:51 AM
The French always say it better.
Rowoon has "Je ne sais quoi"!!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 12:32 AM
I am told this is called X-factor!
As far as I'm concerned Rowoon has the whole A to Z factors twice over.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 1:34 AM
He doesn't have the award winning acting chops yet ... but can anyone else do his ear acting?
Seon-ha has put us in this Ro-swooning mess ... making us an addict with her loving curated gifs.
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Seon-ha
September 19, 2023 at 4:30 AM
I don’t do anything but draw attention to evidence we can all see with own our eyes….
lapislazulii
September 19, 2023 at 3:11 AM
agreed!! je ne sais quoi is the perfect description, like he's pretty for sure but there's just something else so arrestingly charming about him too 🤩
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 3:40 AM
And here we go round the Ro-swooning bush .... anytime in the day, afternoon, evening or night!!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 6:16 AM
QED
Rowoon has je ne sais quoi
Beanies have verklempt**
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@missvictrix
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missvictrix
September 19, 2023 at 6:20 AM
@seeker Yesss I will take any and all terms to express what I can usually only articulate as GAHHHHHHHHHHH
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Kurama
September 19, 2023 at 7:33 AM
As a French speaker, I can't only accept this terms :p
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18 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 5:19 AM
Older dramas
Rooftop Prince
It kept coming up on my recommendations so decided to give it a go.
My first first love
I tried to watch this so many times and got put off by the first few minutes but I decided to fast forward to random point and started watching and actually I am enjoying it so much that I am already on season two. This is from 2019 and season one ended in such a random place I don’t get what was happening at the time that they decided to split it in to two parts.
Live watches
CEO-dol Mart
I was hoping for the laugh out loud of Gaus electronics, or Pegasus market. It was watchable but not laugh out loud funny. It reminds me of Unicorn which had a more character based approach with each having a story to tell. I am intrigued re the band member that died they have covered his face in all scenes so I wonder if he is going to be someone famous doing a Cameo or he didn’t die.
My lovely liar
Looking forward to the conclusion to see the point of the dad storyline; he passed on the special power? I also want to have confirmation that Eomji’s death was accidental. I want to know why she would have willingly gone from the beach of sorrows to the forest of death when she could have just gone home. I got the impression that Deukchan planned to either end his life or serve his sentence so want to know whether he has left something special for his little girl as he loved her so much or he wanted to leave whilst she was so young so she wouldn’t have memories/miss him after he disappeared out of her life.
Cinderellas of midsummer - J drama
I have enjoyed it but there is one too many annoying characters they wrapped up the others quite quickly but one has outstayed their welcome. Looking forward to seeing the story wrap up.
The date of marriage - J drama
Finally the misunderstandings are resolved.
Marriage with me? Seriously? J drama
It’s watchable.
Completed
Cold blooded intern
Noisy house when trying to study; random suggestion go to a library? Can’t believe Supyo’s daughter had to remind him such a place existed. Was it me or when he went there he had upgraded his appearance to look younger! That whole library scene the dad was getting on my nerves too😆. I feel vindicated; I knew the parachuted in manager was a decent guy with genuine feelings for Jiwon.
On the whole it was watchable the subject matter and office politics are not really my idea of fun but there were light moments. I preferred Race because it was so beautifully presented and I liked the main characters’ friendships in that one.
Webtoon corner
Didn’t read anything this week.
Book corner
If I could tell you just one thing - Richard Reed
Worth reading just to hear how Richard Branson has designed his daily routine to include a zip wire ride as a way to move around the complex! It’s these kinds of things that spark joy.
It is really interesting to read the stories behind the people who share their wise counsel.
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:21 AM
The “Beach of Sorrows” and “Forest of Death.” *snorts coffee out nose* 😂
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 16, 2023 at 11:51 AM
Give us a hint or two about Rooftop Prince when you finish it. I have started and stopped a few time, so I'd like to hear your opinion! Start again? No? Yes?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 12:10 PM
I will do, I get the feeling it’s leaning in on the tropes I don't like; the Candy who can’t catch a break and the bitter characters in both timelines. It is funny with the fish out of water elements.
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Gikata
September 18, 2023 at 1:18 AM
I've once unwisely tried to watch ROOFTOP PRINCE right after QUEEN IN HYUN'S MAN. Let's just say I did not enjoy it all in comparison...
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:18 AM
Rooftop Prince
Enjoyed that one but perhaps now falls in the will not rewatch category.
My First First Love
Just watch the secondary otp of Kang Tae-oh and Choi Ri. Two seasons - because Netflix!
CEO-dol Mart
Mindless watching is my catnip - also palate cleanser. I think the 5 member just bailed.
MLL
Hot 🔥 potato 🥔
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19 Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 5:39 AM
I’m watching ‘Start Up’ and I LOOOVE it so much!! It doesn’t quite go the ways I expect, and yet, it’s comforting and relatable in other ways. inspiring and exciting! The music is used so well. It’s one thing to have a good soundtrack, it’s another to know when to use it, to great effect in the right scenes. And to know when to cut a portion, use the instrumental version, or just use it as a background score. Whoever did the music editing and supervision for this drama deserves some accolades!
I wasn’t familiar with Kim Seon Ho before, had seen his name here and there but wow, I’ve found a new favorite. Enough to go and watch clips of Hometown Cha Cha, where I had no interest previously, even though my darling Shin Min Ah was in it.
Suzy has grown in her acting. This is my second time watching her after seeing her first in as Go Hye Mi in ‘Dream High’, and the difference is clear. I don’t see that self-consciousness that idols are sometimes accused of. Here, she’s not afraid to be not so pretty. And I love her character. What a dogged optimist! She’s a huge dork hiding beneath the front of a sophisticated lady, it’s no wonder she fits in so well with the SamSan Tech geeks...but she is so resilient that I think Dal Mi could fit in anywhere, if she was determined to.
Now for Nam Joo Hyuk. Can’t believe this is the same Jung Joon Hyung of Weightlifting Fairy! Where he was so boyish, loud and playful, outgoing and confident in Weightlifting Fairy, here in Start Up, he still has that boyishness, but is also painfully awkward, shy, extremely introverted and insecure. I am also very impressed by the consistency of his interpretation! For example, in that networking party scene where he tries to play the role of the hotshot guy, you could still see the subtle mannerism that betray his natural shyness. Another actor would have transformed into a different person to show that he is playing a different persona. However, I’m glad that the drama still maintains that awkwardness, even after their *spoiler alert* San Francisco success and exposure. It is a testament to the good direction in the drama: every actor is playing to their strength. Who is the director? I’ll look him up!
Still on Joo Hyuk, watching him in Start Up made me realize, He has THE MOST PUPPY-DOG EXPRESSION EVER! It shows when he tears up, before the tears actually drop, he transforms into a little boy, it juts breaks your heart🥺🥺❣️. I’ve watched a lot of dramas and some of my favorite actors do have that puppy-dog eyes too, but there’s something about watching Nam Joo Hyuk cry that pierces one’s dead heart💔. He really poured out his soul in this drama. Now I can’t wait to watch 25/21...though I’ve heared (and seen) that the ending is quite the wrencher...if such a word exists.
I’m also curious to see him play the sophisticated tsundere male lead. Didn’t he do something similar in ‘Bride of Habaek’? I heard he was miscast in that, and in ‘School 2015’, where the reviews read...
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 5:51 AM
👆🏾I think this cut off.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 9:19 AM
Oh yeah, didn’t realize 😂
The rest of the comment is below👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 6:23 AM
@mmmmm More competition for ya, perhaps? Once you start with KSH, it’s all down-hill from there 🤣
@flighteygazelles1 If mmmmm swings by, you’ll see what I mean.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 9:12 AM
Downhill?...as in “down the rabbit hole” or “the rest of his filmography sucks”...?
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 9:50 AM
As in, once you start falling for him...you're doomed to stay attached :)
His filmography's just fine! Have you seen early KSH in Good Manager?
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 10:58 AM
*clears throat*
Thanks for the tag, @attiton.
Hello, dear Flightey.
I’ve been renown for being the first who claimed BB (as in my baby) Kim Seon-ho. My claim is that he is mine. I don’t have any reasons to support this, but the whole DB community got tired of arguing with me and making me see sense of what they called “Sharing is caring.”
So ermm.. it’s ok if you like him but pls don’t claim him cos
I am quite persistent
Bwahahahaha
PS Seon-ha, Flightey isn’t a real threat because from her comment, it’s obvious he likes NJH. I’ll just assume this is true.
*bows*
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Flightey Gazelles
September 17, 2023 at 4:59 AM
“My claim is that he is mine. I don’t have any reasons to support this, but the whole DB community got tired of arguing with me and making me see sense of what they called “Sharing is caring.”“
Lmaooo!! Thanks for the heads up @mmmmm. Don’t worry, I really do like NJH, but I’ve been known to posses the ability to contain multiple oppas in my heart. The more the merrier is my motto!🙌🏾
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 11:04 AM
And if you like KSH, one that I’d recommend is You Drive Me Crazy. He is really cute there. 2 Days 1 Night will make you love him, so you should stay away from that. 🤣
To you, too, @attiton
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 11:19 AM
I second You drive me crazy I watched it recently and really enjoyed it.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 11:42 AM
I have one question Mother Bean, why is your name getting longer and longer? 😂
mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 11:43 AM
And do you still never lie? Even when the FL of MLL is losing her lie detecting ability now? @elinor
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 12:28 PM
@mmmmm its not my fault, the beanies keep saying things that I like so I add them to my display name as they put a smile on my face whenever I see them. I love the DB community and I do think Cera’s description of it being like the Wooga squad is spot on so wanted to acknowledge that I am a proud member of the squad.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 11:57 AM
@mmmmm My display handle could be a lie. 😎
@flighteygazelles1, if you haven't seen it yet, I strongly recommend School Nurse Files for more Nam Joo-hyuk. His character is almost the opposite of Joon-hyung but just as appealing. The show is weird and funny and a little dark, and its only shortcoming is that it's too short.
Start-up is not my cup of tea but is there a scene in San Francisco? Or just a reference to it?
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Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:40 PM
Oh, um, I’ve seen You Drive Me Crazy. He’s so charming I could die.
I shall stay, then, very far away from 2 Days 1 Night because I very much value our Internet Friendship @mmmmm. I even have memorized how many ‘m’s are in your name. Don’t have to look it up. That’s how dear you are to me.
Or is it that I love to fight? Only time will tell…
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 8:46 PM
🤣🤣🤣
Chingu. The moment you remembered how many ms there are, I know you’re a real deal.
Kamsahamida!!
Love at first fight! @ndlessjoie also loved me at first flight, or so I assumed. So I think it’s possible.
A Beansprout for you 🌲 for you for loving me at first fight.
PS I was kidding. You can watch 2 Day 1 Night because you loved me at first fight. But BB is mine, I need to make that clear again. 😇
Seon-ha
September 16, 2023 at 8:59 PM
Oh, no. I’m not going there @mmmmm. I have my Dramabeans priorities!!! I also have such a super long backlog. I want to cry sometimes. :)
Thanks for the Beansprout…any Beansprout for love is a good one.
He’s yours. Especially if you tell me that Gong Yoo is mine GLOBALLY. Like no one else but me in the entire world.
Do you say so??? DO YOU?
mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 9:16 PM
@attiton, if you and I claimed GY, we would be stomped to death by our so-called Bean friends. We would be like Mufasa in The Lion King.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 17, 2023 at 3:21 AM
@mmmmm ‘ if you and I claimed GY, we would be stomped to death by our so-called Bean friends. We would be like Mufasa in The Lion King’👈🏾 this image had me crying with laughter thank you🤣 there would be no Beanie chingus at that point.
Seon-ha
September 17, 2023 at 4:26 AM
“Love at First Fight” should be a drama title and @mmmmm deserves to get paid the royalties for it 🙌 😆
john
September 17, 2023 at 6:20 AM
Love at First Fight ©
That is a winner .
mmmmm
September 17, 2023 at 9:07 AM
Erm
Thank you for the idea about the royalties. That is a good one.
What is funny is that.. I read it wrong. 😅 “ Or is it that I love to fight? Only time will tell…” I read it as or is it love at first fight? Only time will tell.”
You know, I just watched Love at First Sight (American movie on Netflix) a few days ago.. so I guess I got it all mixed up.
I thought you loved me at first fight! @attiton
Flightey Gazelles
September 17, 2023 at 5:06 AM
“2 Days 1 Night will make you love him, so you should stay away from that. 🤣”
Well, this is certainly an interesting way to plug in your bias!🤣😂
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 6:27 AM
I'm glad you are enjoying and appreciating Start-up. It still is one of my favorite k-dramas (and a perfect first episode). Btw, I'm one of the few who never had SLS with this drama.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 9:16 AM
The first two episodes grabbed me from the start and never let go!
I think one can get SLS without the shipping war it seems to have inspired (which I personally think was unnecessary). Btw, I’m staying FARRRR away from the recaps until I’m done.😅😅
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 10:38 AM
I never read the recaps for Start-up, because I binge-watched the drama last year, before discovering Dramabeans. I was unaware of the Shipping Wars it triggered. I knew it once I finished it.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 17, 2023 at 5:52 AM
How lucky! I was barely on dramabeans around that time, yet the wars somehow bled into other threads.
ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 8:25 AM
Bride of Habaek - he played a more cute, slightly narcissistic role. But the drama was sort of bland in general and it was one of the more mediocre works of all the cast members' filmography.
School 2015. I'm not sure if it was so much a miscast as the writing for the 2ML was just more fun and interesting. 2ML - played by Yook Sun-jae- is also more naturally charismatic and also had lot more chemistry with Kim So-hyun.
I loved Nam Joo-hyuk in 25/21 though. He starts off sort of tsundere. I heard he was also great in Light In Your Eyes. It seemed like that was the turning point in his acting. I haven't watched it yet, because it's a heavy drama.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 9:23 AM
‘The Light in Your Eyes’ is heavy? Oh no😰 Can I bare to see NJH cry again?💔😩
I always confuse that drama with the Seo in-Guk/Jung So Min drama.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 10:00 AM
I loved The light in your eyes for the way it showed the aging process and the various ways people cope integrating into the new lifestyle. Friendship and family relationships are important parts of the story too.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 17, 2023 at 5:09 AM
Awwn, sounds like a lovely, potentially healing drama. I’ll add it to my EVER growing to-watch list😩🤦🏾♀️
Flightey Gazelles
September 16, 2023 at 9:04 AM
Sorryyyy, my comment was too long, it got cut off.🙏🏾
Continued...
where the reviews read that he was green and wooden. I haven’t watched those two dramas, but with the level of growth he’s shown in Start Up, I look forward to his future roles. I’ll be watching.🙌🏾❣️
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20 Cay_sbtgoG
September 16, 2023 at 5:52 AM
Not counting A Time Called You which I dropped at the 15 min mark on ep 9, the only ongoing show I still watch this week is Destined with You. However, with the crazy mess all around, the question is, whether I’ll survive or will I be one of the fallen soldiers like many.
Somehow I ended up watching I am Not A Robot and found the romance part enjoyable. I found Yoo Seung Ho's acting pretty good. He's been acting since a kid, duh.
Finally giving in to Love at First Sight on Netfilx based on @mmmm rec and it's indeed as she described; short, simple, and lovely. An enjoyable watch for sure; the only one that didn't suffer from the abuse of FF-ing.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 11:35 AM
I’m so glad you enjoyed Love at First Sight.
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21 rho
September 16, 2023 at 5:52 AM
BEHIND YOU TOUCH: Ye-Bun had a point: Jang Yeol coming to Mujin also coincided with the start of the murders. So why can’t be a suspect too? For me, The Butt of Truth was the highlight of the episodes as the murders took center stage. Wonder if Ye-Bun and the Shaman ever thought of a partnership? Everything is now converging- Haraboji’s motive in joining the campaign, the murders, and possibly Seon-Woo’s coming to Mujin.
LEGEND OF FUYAO: Episode 38- Who is going to get the crown of Megrez? Fuyao is a master strategist, and the boss of the Black gang tribe is no match for her. If only the people of Yao City trusted her or if she had explained the plan to them. I am now seeing Episode 42.
MY HAPPY MARRIAGE: Miyo has recovered her powers. As well as learning to stand up for herself. I was so glad to see that the drama did not go through the routine SML. Both SML and the grandfather are finally coming through for Miyo and her happiness.
MY LOVELY BOXER: What an emotional week. Lee Sang-Yeob was just fantastic. Will there be a second match as it looks like Han Ae-Reum has some problem with her shoulder? I am not very sure about the romance. At this point, I would very much prefer them to go their separate ways.
CEO-Dol Mart: It is cute but I am not sure but I am not very invested. Will see how the next two episodes go.
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22 skirt
September 16, 2023 at 5:52 AM
Behind Your Touch. Still wacky and zany. Surprisingly, I can digest serial killers when they are mixed well with comedy.
Destined With You. Enjoying this makes me feel like a cheater enabler. Shutting down my brain and not questioning the morale and ethics of the leads and its other problems because the angst got me in its chokehold.
Fake It Till You Make It. Slowly escaping its vortex.
Moving. I am power-walking with everyone to the finishing line. Show, please do not harm my pure ray of sunshine.
My Lovely Boxer. That was a surprising twist. I no longer know what I am expecting from this show. Life can throw you a curve ball, emotions can be messy and fuel motivations, and people can be utterly complicated that there is no right answer.
What’s Wrong With My Princess. Cheap production, forgettable story, decent acting. Surprisingly watchable.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:02 AM
“Slowly escaping its vortex.” - so there is hope???
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skirt
September 16, 2023 at 6:36 PM
I’ve roped in my sister into watching it. Surely, after fangirling IRL and getting it out of my system I’ll get there, right???
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Vincy
September 17, 2023 at 9:54 PM
"Enjoing this makes me feel like a cheater enabler...angst got me in its chokehold"
-me 😅
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:27 AM
Er ... is the chokehold courtesy red hand?
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Vincy
September 19, 2023 at 5:58 AM
Perhaps, which is why the red hand has been missing from the show...
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23 Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 5:59 AM
Currently watching:
_ My Lovely liar (14/16). As I said last week... I should have dropped it earlier.
_ C- drama Fake It till you make (11/14). One of the best series I have watched this year. The script, the cinematography, the music, the OTP, the settings (that Beijing that never sleeps is a character on its own)... I love everything.
Older shows:
_ City Hall (14/20). I'm FFing more than I thought I would. I'm skipping lots of secondary characters scenes.
_ Oasis (6/16). Too many fights to my liking, but I like the rest. Choo Yeong Woo's acting in this drama is very good to be a rookie.
_ C-drama Le coup de foudre (9/35). So cute so far! I need more of this.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 6:32 AM
I'm glad other Beanies encouraged me to continue with Fake It!
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 12:04 PM
I have to add one more drama. I have just started “Signal” because Netflix is going to remove it at the end of the month.
I have watched the first episode and loved the script and pace. I know it's a beloved show, so I didn't want to miss it.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:19 PM
Is there a link that we can check what’s to be out at Netflix, please?
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 11:57 PM
I know someone who always finds that information, but I don't know where.
It seems that in my zone Netflix is removing Misaeng, Signal, K2, Familiar wife and The Crowned Clown this month.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 17, 2023 at 3:25 AM
I just googled ‘leaving soon on Netflix’ and I think the page that comes up is the official page: What’s on Netflix. So when you get the page come up bookmark it and stay up to date.
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PYC
September 17, 2023 at 8:50 AM
Thanks. But when I bring up the page, I didn’t get to see Misaeng, Signal etc leaving. Not sure if I get to the right page.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 17, 2023 at 8:58 AM
I googled Korean dramas leaving Netflix and it brought up the dramas leaving over 2023. Hopefully someone else will see this and direct you to the right page if this still does not help. Have you tried using the actual show title and the question when is ….show leaving Netflix (add your country)? To see if that brings up when the specified content is leaving in your region?
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24 Scottie
September 16, 2023 at 6:00 AM
Only have time to keep up with a few dramas for now.
Still loving BEHIND YOUR TOUCH and the murder mystery where almost all villagers are now suspects - very much in Agatha Christie style.
The twist in LOVELY LIAR was a surprise, but maybe not a good one. Deuk-chan's melt down was beautifully done by Yoon Ji-on, but more nuanced writing for this character would have been better.
I am happy to see the teens and especially lovely Bong-Seok back in MOVING. I have no idea what Jeon Gye-Do tried to achieve with racing the bus, but am looking forward to finding out!
Episode 7 in DESTINED WITH YOU started well and the scenes between the two ML are nice to watch, but then it all went downhill. Shin-yu is clearly cheating, so the writer decided to make Na-yeon a lusty and therefore much worse cheater than Shin-yu who needs and deserves to be 'rescued' from the obsessive and horrible claws of the privileged mayor's daughter. One more lazy episode like this and it will be a drop.
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25 StacyA
September 16, 2023 at 6:24 AM
Finished New Life Begins, yay! Overall a good drama with good acting all around. Liked all the secondary couples and stories, but I did start to get bored around ep 20-27. The last three eps picked back up and I loved how it ended.
Keeping up with My Lovely Liar, mainly because I've made it this far so I'm going finish it.
Fell a little behind on My Journey to You. As much as I grumbled when other Cdramas didn't put out new eps on the weekends, now I wish MJTY would do the same because it's HARD keeping up with one ep a day sometimes! I finished through ep16 last night and hope to catch up today. I know there are complaints that the drama is all style and no substance, and to some degree I can see that, but I don't care. I'm thoroughly enjoying the drama even though I'm pretty sure the ending will not be pretty.
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 8:36 AM
I want to watch New Life Begins, but I can't help thinking that many C-dramas (not all) are too long.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 12:08 PM
NLB is a lovely show. It drags a bit in the middle, but it picks up again several eps near the end.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 12:07 PM
NLB is a really nice show but drags somewhere in the middle. As you said, it picks up again near the end and I still think of it fondly.
I think everyone suffers from MLL revelation of the culprit at this point. The writing is just crazy, insensitive, and so outdated. I wanna refrain from making any comments until I watch the final eps, but I have very little hope at this point that the show will give a good explanation of how everything spiraled into this.
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26 Lostpanda is celebrating My Ajusshi 💔
September 16, 2023 at 6:30 AM
Currently watching My Lovey Liar, My Lovely Boxer, My Happy Marriage, Touch Your Butt, A Time Called You and I have Fake it till you make it up next thanks to other beanies raving about it.
However, once Moving airs, I immediately forget everything that goes on in all other dramas. It’s so intense that it takes over all of my brain cells.
Han Hyo-Jo as Mi-Hyun - that last scene - OMG - a protective mom that been triggered - the dads are overpowered, but they don’t scare me nearly as much as an angry mother. Walking slow while taking off your glasses has never felt so intense.
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:25 AM
I am almost afraid to start FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT. I am already too far behind on many other shows, and this might make things worse. But i know I will get around to watching it sooner or later.
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Lostpanda is celebrating My Ajusshi 💔
September 16, 2023 at 10:34 AM
Exact same sentiment here. Moving ends in less than a week so I’ll be able to focus on anything else.
My Lovely Liar is sputtering towards the finish line too. Please just let this one end.
My Lovely Boxer ends in 2 weeks.
I’ll have a clean plate for Fake it till you make it really soon
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:38 AM
This is smart planning. I am going to try to do something similar.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:24 PM
I’m with you that Moving is so compelling that I can’t watch anything else, LOL! I tried My Lovely Boxer, The Kidnapping Day and Touch Your Butt but all on hold - no interest to go further.
Anyway, Moving is finishing this week - brace ourselves for a satisfying end. Then I can at least finish Someday One Day before deciding on watching A Time Called You or not.
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27 Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 6:40 AM
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28 Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 6:41 AM
Kdramas: Behind your touch, kidnapping day and Moving.
Ep 10/11 of Moving was way too violent and it slowed me down. I didn’t want to watch it before going to bed. I mean, there is violence and there is this. I guess we have one more parent story before we go back to what actually happened?
Kidnapping Day: I liked the premier episodes. In no time the drama made me root for two main characters and therein lies the success. The murder mystery is intriguing too.
Behind your touch: Bring back the humor show! I am still enjoying this show a lot.
Cdramas:
Fake it till you make it (completed): Perfect ending. Everything about this drama is perfect. I dont know remember the last time I saw such excellent writing, so relevant and contemporary that makes you think about your life and evaluate your choices. I would have appreciated a show like this in my early 30s for sure. And I thankful that such a show exists.
The direction and cinematography were poetic. The casting and acting was perfect. And OST was moody. A totally immersive experience from start to end.
Parallel World : This show is fun! Leads are amazing and their team is delightful. Very enjoyable ride. I get a little lost as they keep adding new elements in the fantasy world but hopefully I can keep up. Bai Yu and Ni Ni 🥰
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29 Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 6:42 AM
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 6:43 AM
Kdramas: Behind your touch, kidnapping day and Moving.
Ep 10/11 of Moving was way too violent and it slowed me down. I didn’t want to watch it before going to bed. I mean, there is violence and there is this. I guess we have one more parent story before we go back to what actually happened?
Kidnapping Day: I liked the premier episodes. In no time the drama made me root for two main characters and therein lies the success. The murder mystery is intriguing too.
Behind your touch: Bring back the humor show! I am still enjoying this show a lot.
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30 TurtuallySarcastic
September 16, 2023 at 6:51 AM
Boys Over Flowers👧👦👦👦👦(21/25): Our second female lead has barged her way into the story and she had great potential for female friendships and as a scene stealer. Of course, her attachment issues quickly crushed my hopes as she bulldozed her way into some friendships and an engagement that are problematic and one-sided. I guess that one is on me, since I keep forgetting how old this show is. However, while we all grumble when encountering stereotypical second female leads, it does sting a whole lot less if they live up to the stereotype from the very beginning. 🤷🏻♀️
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31 amfalulawatching
September 16, 2023 at 7:10 AM
HOGU'S LOVE: At the halfway point. I'm enjoying it, but also hitting the pause button often (lots of flashbacks to get it to 1 hour long episodes). So, I'm not 100 percent engaged. It's naughty funny. It's interesting to see the similarities with other shows by the same writer that I've seen (Flower Boy Ramen Shop and Because this is my First Life).
RAN: (movie, Akira Kurosawa-1985). Beautiful and tragic.
Elemental: (movie-Disney/Pixar). It was good to look at. I wasn't bored (what more can you really ask for when watching a movie). Story was as expected. Not nearly as good as other Pixar movies.
Arang and the Magistrate is cued up and ready. Even after all these years on Dramabeans, I am just so impressed by how many dramas watchers can keep up with. My list is so small!
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 8:28 AM
I'm excited to hear you have Arang and the Magistrate cued up! I watched it and loved it when it aired and I'm happy to see it getting new and potential fans a decade later! :)
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
September 16, 2023 at 8:49 AM
I'm one of those recent fans, and absolutely loved it!!!🥰
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32 Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 7:26 AM
I'm in a drama slump. Nothing is really engaging me at this point. This weeks episodes of LOVELY LIAR drained a lot of my love for it. I'll finish it, 'cause we're almost at the end, but it's not going on a rewatch later list.
I started Destined with You and haven't gotten past episode 2, and now am very much on the fence on this one. I don't want to keep watching just because nothing else has grabbed my interest.
I finished Cdrama The Legend of Zhouhua and thought it was an enjoyable watch, if a little draggy sometimes, but then again, most Cdramas suffer from the same too-many-episodes affliction.
Now that I've shared my very unenthusiastic reviews, I think I'll go search for something to revive my drama loving spirits!
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sorrynotsorry
September 16, 2023 at 7:33 AM
I'm in the same boat re: "drama slump". If you find the magical drama, let us all know!
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Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 8:02 PM
Lol! For sure, if I find that one magical, unicorn of a drama I'll be sure to let y'all know!
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:56 AM
I am not sure if this is your genre. You can try the cdrama ‘Parallel World’. If you don’t mind fantasy adventure then give it a shot. It’s fun, zippy and the leads are amazing. Their chemistry is really good. Each episode is less than 30 minutes so it’s an easy watch.
A few of us are watching and having fun with it.
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Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 7:55 PM
I ended putting this on my watchlist because I've heard good things about it. It's not a genre that I usually go to first, but I'm not averse to it either.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 8:09 AM
What mood are you in?
I think that's the crucial question. 🙂
Sometimes, a weekender or a daily... or a silly c-webdrama can be the right drama to watch. 🙂🙃
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 12:14 PM
I second this. Think of your mood first, and choose the one that you think should make you feel better. It doesn’t have to be Kdramas but any shows. I just finished one American show named Love at First Sight, in the middle of watching Element, began the latest season of Sweet Magnolia, and waited patiently to finish MLL.
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Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 8:00 PM
How did you like Love at First Sight? I watched the preview but I was kind of iffy on it.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 8:35 PM
I liked it very much. But I like simple, beautiful (literally and figuratively, preferably both at the same time) shows.
Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 7:57 PM
Honestly, real life is a little emotional draining at the moment, so I've been hoping to find a light hearted, feel-good drama that I could just sit back and enjoy.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 8:38 PM
When I feel like being cheered up, I sometimes turn to some American shows. I think there are many good ones out there. Love at First Sight was good, and I really like Sweet Magnolias. I still haven’t caught up on the latter’s recent season, but I began it yesterday.
For Kdramas, have you tried Pegasus Market?
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 11:05 PM
Be My Dream Family or Five Enough could fit... or you could laugh your stress away with Waikiki or Gaus Electronics. 🙂 Or enjoy the cooking and eating in Let's Eat or in Dae Jang Geum is Watching.
Or you could turn to variety like Young Actors Retreat or Grandpas Over Flowers.
I hope your situation gets better soon!!! 😘
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33 ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:37 AM
Uncanny Counter 2: Luckily, it stuck the ending! I don't regret watching it despite the disappointingly mediocre season. The best way to watch this is really to binge and use the FF at times.
Behind Your Touch: Made it to episode 10 and I'm still in love with it. This is quite an accomplishment since some dramas just fizzle out for me by midpoint. Amidst the murder, it is still maintaining a good deal of absurdity. Exhibit A: A Butt of Truth stall at the Prawn Festival. And the characters' theorizing adds a bit of genre-awareness, which I appreciate.
Destined With You: Not as enthused this week since I find Shin-yu so wishy-washy and I can't warm up to him as a partner to the lonely Hong-jo. Ro-woon playing him is saving him from being bland and unlikable. The drama does have fantastic dialogue and banter and interactions though, and it is nailing that rom-com rhythm.
Someday or One Day (OG taiwanese drama): Gave up on waiting for legal streaming and just watched it through other means. Binged the whole thing and holy moly is it amazing! I hurt. I laugh. I hurt again. It's got like a kitchen-sink's worth of genres and themes and deftly balanced them all in 13 episodes without feeling rushed and seared itself onto my heart. I liked Alice Ko before, but here she just reached new levels of awesomeness. I've heard people rave about Greg Hsu and was like "so what?" until now. He was fantastic and when he stared into the camera, I felt like my soul was being snatched. I almost had to look away.
Wrong Carriage, Right Groom (cdrama, up to ep 12): Continues to be a cute watch, though it doesn't have that stickyness factor. I do feel like at this point, the medic/general couple is getting less screentime than our martial arts couple, so it is a little disappointing, since I like them both equally.
Joy of Life (cdrama, up to ep 21): The angst! They've put a pin into the Lin Gong landmine for now. Also found out the lethal Uncle Wu Zhu is the weak scholarly ML in The Lady in Butcher's House, and I'm tickled.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 7:48 AM
Greg Hsu 🥰🥰
If you want to watch him in a fun role there is this tw drama called ‘love storm’. It’s on Netflix US. it’s an ensemble cast and he plays a smaller role here. But he is so much fun here and everyone ought to see Gregliner!!
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ar_arguably romantic
September 16, 2023 at 7:50 AM
Thanks for the rec!!
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 1:24 PM
Just had my first encounter with this charmer this past week, in Someday or One Day. I’m sure it won’t be my last!
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 16, 2023 at 3:39 PM
Too bad he doesn’t do dramas. There was another new movie of his which I am yet to watch.
I hope we get to see him in more dramas in the future.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:32 PM
Has anybody seen Greg Hsu’s latest movie at Netflix Marry My Dead Body? It’s an LGBTQ movie and I saw the trailer a few weeks ago - looking super fun. And TW usually does LGBTQ right on point and My Dear Ex remains a top movie in my book.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:34 AM
UC2
Watched / skipped / hopped through with my friend ffwd. Glad to see it, greatful to @Unit for the recaps, not going for a rewatch (or full watch) anytime soon.
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34 Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 16, 2023 at 7:46 AM
Current/recent:
My Lovely Liar: Cliff-diving seems to be the hot sport for kdrama writers right now and this show is heading over the edge.
Moving: Continues to be gripping, especially now that the parents and teens are all together. Han Hyo-joo OWNS the screen.
Destined With You: Parts of this are in “so bad it’s good” territory. Other parts haven’t made it there yet but are actively seeking it. (Turn back! It’s not too late!)
My Lovely Boxer: The two lead actors are delivering the emotions so well, separately and together. I’m dreading a romance, though - they feel too far apart in maturity and experience.
The Kidnapping Day: Funny, offbeat, and has set up a good meaty mystery. If the show can stick with the tone of episodes 1 and 2 it could be a winner.
A Time Called You through ep. 5: I’ve realized I watched the TW original too recently to separate this in my mind and consider it on its own merits. The kdrama is better paced, and Jeon Yeo-been is more convincing in the FL dual role, but I’m finding it a little dull and it may be because it’s too familiar so far.
Older shows:
Mad Dog: Watching with some beanies. One episode in and it has a bit of a cartoon-like tone. I haven’t figured out what’s happening with Woo Do-hwan’s character but I’m madly intrigued - and the way he wriggles his face!
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indyfan
September 16, 2023 at 8:30 AM
A Time Called You: "I’m finding it a little dull and it may be because it’s too familiar so far."
I also thought ATCY was fine, but not up to the benchmark set by the original. Amid the many reasons, the excitement of unraveling this mind-boggling time travel plot and relationship tangle is gone. I see some of the folks who are watching this for the first time being mind-blown. I miss that feeling from Someday even when I was genuinely confused WTH was going on back then.
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Isa is always time travelling
September 16, 2023 at 9:08 AM
Someday or One Day was like a puzzle to solve. Sometimes I had to take notes. The drama defies the audience because it doesn't spoonfeed them.
But apart from that, I think the script was amazing.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 1:57 PM
I started to make a chart to keep track of the plot, but then I discovered these recaps. They were a big help clarifying some of the plot points I had trouble following.
https://thedramallamablog.com/tag/someday-or-one-day/
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 1:52 PM
I probably won’t be watching A Time Called You, since I loved Someday or One Day and don’t see the point in watching what I’ve heard is an inferior remake. But I am curious about how closely they stuck to the original.
Maybe it’s because of my theater background (Hamlet set in Nazi Germany, anyone?), but I don’t view a tv drama or film as a sacred work, set in stone and not to be tampered with. To me, one of the joys of watching a remake is seeing how a different creative team chooses to tell the same story; how they adapt and change it for a particular time, audience, or artistic vision. I started watching the Thai remake of Tunnel. I quit fairly early when I saw it was nearly identical, shot-for-shot, to the Korean version. If the entire show continued in this manner, it must have been stifling for the actors and creative team to not be able to put their own spin on the material.
It also drives me nuts when a musician does a cover version of a song that’s a note-for-note copy of the original. Make it your own!
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 5:23 PM
agree with you on remakes and cover versions as opportunity to improve and add more to original. one of my favorite remakes is the movie Vanilla Sky.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 5:25 PM
and one impressive cover is Goodbye Yellow Brick Road by Sara Bareilles. I also love when musical theater actors cover pop songs. Their interpretations can be breathtaking.
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 5:51 PM
My all-time favorite movie remake is His Girl Friday, with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell. The original movie (which itself was adapted from a stage play) is The Front Page. It’s also really entertaining.
There are so many great cover versions of songs that it’s hard to pick a favorite. Marvin Gaye’s cover of Gladys Knight and the Pips’ “Heard It Through the Grapevine.” Aretha Franklin’s cover of Otis Redding’s “Respect.” William Shatner’s cover of Bob Dylan’s “Mr. Tambourine Man.” (Okay, the last one’s a joke. But it really does exist.)
wonhwa
September 16, 2023 at 8:52 PM
Yay, theatre people! As another theatre person, I also don't really understand the point of shot-by-shot (or scene by scene) reproductions of an original version. If you're going to re-make or re-stage something part of the point is to find new, fresh angles on the material or to adjust it so that it speaks to a new culture, time period or audience.
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35 Bunny Sonaki
September 16, 2023 at 8:18 AM
The Day of Kidnapping surpasses anything else airing at the same time. Hoping it keeps the hype up.
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36 Gikata
September 16, 2023 at 8:37 AM
Slow week again as neither me nor my drama menu has yet to fully recover.
DESTINED WITH YOU: I don't watch fictional fantasy romances to moral policing characters, so the whole who cheats on whom debacle doesn't really phase me. It doesn't make a great story to watch either, I had to FF quite a lot of stuff (FL with SML, for example). Overall I hope that eventual Joseon flashbacks will bring drama's mojo back because this current melo turn was not it, sorry. More cute fake dates and crazy spell book shenanigans and less of lame realistic romance struggles, pls! Oh, and let the mom get that divorce, she deserves better!
MY JOURNEY TO YOU: A bit behind it, but heard the spoilers of the ending... Bananas. That's the only word that came to my mind upon reading about the events of finale. What's with this offensively unsatisfying and purposefully controversial endings of cdramas lately? Heard cnetz created a new name for those - NE, aka "no ending" lmao. Well, at least most of hot lonely guys from Gong clan survived against all odds and predictions... yet almost all remained lonely as their hot spy waifs left them heartbroken one way or another. As if this family didn't struggle with procreating to begin with... Not cool, show! Still gonna finish it for the pretty.
ARTHDAL S2: We'd better get those subs this weekend or else! *polishes sword menacingly*
LOTR trilogy, director's cut: Hey, I was both sick and bored! Nothing like watching epic battle sequences full of dead orcs during the fever. And good guys very satisfyingly win in the end - remember the blessed times when it was still the norm? Heck, there was even a wedding party
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Scottie
September 16, 2023 at 10:15 AM
It is not so much the moral policing, but the hypocrisy from the writer that I find off putting. Both are cheaters, but her cheating is shown as a form of greed, whereas ML cheating is shown as love to keep the viewer rooting for ML and hating SFL.
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Gikata
September 16, 2023 at 10:33 AM
If so, then writer is doing a hilariously bad job at whitewashing ML's image with all the constant blunt calling out for that to his very face. Not to mention the fact that he knows and admits he's wrong. It's actually very interesting that ALL major players know the truth yet there's still little to no progress to this love geometry despite that. The reveal of SFL's infidelity could've been done better, for sure, but it's not like any of us rooted for their couple regardless, so isn't that a good thing she won't be SERIOUSLY heartbroken over their eventual breakup? Anyway, that's a sensitive topic, so I'd probably attribute some visibly forced plot points to censorship rather than just bad writing. Hard to avoid a controversy for much less nowadays...
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37 loveblossom🌸
September 16, 2023 at 9:17 AM
My Lovely Liar 14/16: This drama started off nice, but wow, how it became more and more disappointing. Only two episodes left so I'll finish it. The romance is bland like the rest of the show.
Moving 17/20: I like this show while I'm watching, but the episodes are so short and always end in cliffhangers! Each one is a morsel that doesn't satisfy me enough. This drama would be better as a binge watch. I'm pretty sure they will stretch this to another season because not enough story can be told in the last three episodes.
The Killing Vote 6/12: All caught up! I'm really digging the leads & the mystery. Haven't seen Kim Kwon in a while. He is really good at creepy faces, ugh. It's already the halfway point, but they revealed who Gaetal supposedly is. Might be a red herring.
Han River Police 2/6: Nice, watchable show! Totally reminds me of US cop/mystery shows, just with a bit more snark/humor. (I haven't watched any US comedic cop shows though.) Maybe I've been lacking on funny stuff (*eyes watchlist*), but I'm liking the dry humor here! Also liking the gripping rescue efforts.
7 Escape: War for Survival EP 1: Chaotic and bad. I was surprised at the 1 hour and 30 mins length. But time did move by quickly so not boring? Mind was constantly processing scenes lol. Lots of characters and stories were introduced. I expected school bullying and gang fist fights, cop chases, etc., but I hated when the FL punched and slapped her supposed daughter. The naïve character is so naïve. It's such a stark contrast of EVERYONE being mean and evil while only one person was decent and innocent. I think I will try the second episode to see how the writer presents the first set of episodes. And I haven't gotten to see Eom Ki Joon yet!
Will binge Arthdal this weekend to catch up! As long as the Eng subs are out....
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38 john
September 16, 2023 at 9:27 AM
Finished K drama Damo 2003.
Beautiful on location sets. Funky special effects /wire work 😌
They all died miserably ever after . 😭
Finished Tw dramaSomeday or One Day
Very complex time line, yet the writer and cast pulled it off.
Tried a bunch of shows this week, however, something has hindered my video watching , suspect OS update broke something. Anyways…
Watched C dramas Wrong Carriage Right GroomEp5/
Parallel WorldEp5/
Fake it Until You Make It Ep1/
Watched some of the new K dramas
CEO-Dol Mart Ep1/
From Now On,Showtime! Ep1/
Finished British Drama Under the Greenwood Tree by Thomas Hardy . Have faith ! It’s a happy tale ! A new school mistress arrives in town and soon has three suitors .
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john
September 16, 2023 at 9:57 AM
Started Looking at J Drama
Once Upon a Crime
Little Red Ridinghood as a fairytale detective !?! Cinderella, Hänsel and Gretel too ?
It is an adaptation of the manga Little Red Riding Hood Meets a Corpse on Her Journey by author Aoyagi Aito.
Looks like fun as they take a poke at fairytales .
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:30 AM
I watched ONCE UPON A CRIME, and it was fun.
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rho
September 16, 2023 at 6:11 PM
I watched Once Upon a Crime. It was fun.
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john
September 16, 2023 at 4:46 PM
I also listened to a audiobook of of aprox 1/2 of GWTW.
The war is over, she struggles to keep Tara.
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Firewife5
September 16, 2023 at 8:11 PM
I watched Damo way back in the day, and I still remember how wrecked I was with that ending.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:37 PM
Wow, didn’t know about a drama made of Under The Greenwood Tree! Where did you watch this?
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john
September 17, 2023 at 6:03 AM
I watched it on YouTube . Enjoy !
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PYC
September 17, 2023 at 8:56 AM
Will do!
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39 Olivedreams
September 16, 2023 at 9:28 AM
I’m currently watching and enjoying Money Game and as much as I love romance, the romantics k dramas have been very disappointing of late.
Indeed some of my all time favorite dramas have little to no romance in them…Vincenzo, Sky Castle, Kingdom 1 & 2, Signal, Stranger 1.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 5:33 PM
I'm gonna sound like a broken record at this point, but I find action/investigation/police thrillers with two leads who have camaraderie and chemistry ultimately and infinitely more satifsying than a romance drama. And the older I get, the less enjoyment I get out of watching kissing/love scenes. I think it's just weird having to kiss a stranger for work.
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Olivedreams
September 17, 2023 at 4:28 AM
Good point. The relationship between the ML and FL in Stranger was better than most romantic dramas.
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:42 PM
I do not need romance at all if a drama is well made.
Money Game is however an interesting case. So many FMVs were made about Teo Yoo and Shim Eun-kyung that I watched those YT clips after the drama was aired - but had never watched the drama itself. Those clips were enchanting but I reckon it’s a case of fans’ ‘what if’.
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40 jillian
September 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM
My Lovely Liar ep 13-14 the episode was meh for me. I didn't like the messy handling of that last twist, why another person died and the circumstances behind it AND that tone deaf "party". The acting was also not up to par due to the inexperience of the ML. I hope they can wrap up the story well including the ex-gf's murder.
Moving ep 16-17 its the much awaited face off between the two superpowered groups. The parents will do whatever it takes to protect their kids so I already feel sorry for the other group. The kids though need to coordinate thekr attacks to have a fighting chance with the superpowered adult. And of course another great cliffhanger for the last three episodes next week.
the Killing Vote ep6 the one episode weekly is really not working for this genre. I am not as invested as I should be and quickly losing interest in this show. They have elements to the show that does not work for me. Like the annoying sister being treated like comedic relief? Can she tone down the sudden outbursts? I find her scenes jarring to the tone of the rest of the drama.
Behind Your Touch ep9-10 my favorites are (1) Jang Yeol, YeBun, Gwang Sik and Ok Hui working together to gather intel. (2) I also like the developments with Ok Hui amd the French teacher whose name we finally know. (3) Their performance at the talent show was hilarious. (4) We finally know the story of his sister Da Eun with Ok Hui and why YM is terrified of her. I would love to see present day Da Eun meet up with Ok Hui in later episodes.
The Day I enjoyed the dynamic between Myung Joon and Ro Hee. I like that Ro Hee was able to take charge of the situation as soon as she woke up. Soft hearted MJ never stood a chance from that little boss girl. I liked the first two episodes enough to want to keep on watching.
Mask I finally completed my re watch of this show. As much as I still love Ji Sook and Min Woo. I learned to appreciate Mi Yeon more. She is such a tragic character and I wished she made better choices. I loved the villainy of Suk Hoon but he mellowed out.
Who Rules the World on hold
Ashes of Love I started this for Luo Yun Xi. I saw too little of him but I get a feeling that his Runyu will not have a smooth path with a conniving step Queen Mother out to get him. I do not like Yang Zi's character though who is simple minded. FL like her annoys me. I may put this on pause.
Lost You Forever on hold
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Gikata
September 16, 2023 at 11:27 AM
I've managed to digest - with a great struggle! - only 10 episodes of AoL and bowed out. Everything other than LYX was downright unbearable for me there. I really want to finish it somehow since it's his breakout role that's universally loved and praised (even OVER TTJ, how can I skip it after such blasphemously insane advertisement?), but damn, couldn't this show as a whole be more watchable then?
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jillian
September 16, 2023 at 1:28 PM
In the latter episodes, fans said that LYX had a lot more scenes. I am planning to skip to those episodes. I just need to lookup which ones.
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Gikata
September 17, 2023 at 3:54 AM
A bit of trivia: show's got a heavy (like 20+ episodes or more) extension last minute, and since ML actor was unavailable for that, the solution the crew come up with was to give the relatively unknown at the time (thus totally affordable) LYX and his SML a much bigger arc full of angst, abuse, revenge, one-sided pining, madness and whatnot. End result turned out epic far beyond anyone's expectations, leading to his skyrocketing popularity, bloody fanwars and all kinds of popcorn stuff.
Apparently the aforementioned meaty parts start somewhere early in 30s episodes, but don't take my word for it since I'm not there yet myself. Advice of watching JUST his cut is very tempting, but for a story so huge I'm afraid to not see the bigger picture then and I hate that. So still stuck, unsure how to proceed and heavily frustrated about it((( If only there was a detailed recap somewhere so I could fill the gaps... I'd even read the novel, but the plot differs too much, it won't be of any help *sigh*
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jillian
September 17, 2023 at 9:59 AM
Thanks for the info. I am considering just skipping despite missing a lot of keypoints on the story. I will try and hopefully make sense of his storyline. Its 63 episodes long, I really won't be able to sit through it all if the FL already annoys me in the few episodes I have seen.
He got a big break indeed if he got a meatier role than expected and gained a lot of popularity from it. His hard work and talent paid off.
mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 12:21 PM
Yes, I have to agree with everyone else even when I am biased towards Min-Hyun on my screen, his inexperience shows quite clearly in many scenes that should have been extremely emotional. It makes the show feel flat. I still like him and his chemistry with the ML, though. I think I might be the only one who still loves the OTP and their pairing. They make me feel calm.
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jillian
September 16, 2023 at 1:24 PM
I still like the OTP too don't get me wrong. I like the actors but yes we do have to admit the inexperience of the ML. Also the writing leaves much to be desired so overall it was less than satisfactory. The episodes was not able to override my like for the leads.
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41 Lalla32
September 16, 2023 at 10:20 AM
Everybody is watching that mess that is My lovely Liar and no one is watching that precious thing that is My lovely Boxer. There is no rational esplanation for this.
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snancy
September 16, 2023 at 11:09 AM
@Lalla32, I dropped the mess and I'm starting My Lovely Boxer today. I hope that helps!
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Lalla32
September 16, 2023 at 2:57 PM
I do hope you will enjoy it!! <3 Let me know :)
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snancy
September 17, 2023 at 6:27 AM
Wow! Great start. I think I avoided it because of boxing or the similar titles or, well I don't know. I have always really liked Lee Sang-Yeob, and I didn't realize it, but I've seen a bunch of Kim So-Hye's web dramas. Thanks, @Lalla32, for the nudge. I'm happy to be at the start of this "precious thing."
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Lalla32
September 17, 2023 at 12:33 PM
YAY!! <3 Really happy! Thank you for giving it a chance!
42 OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:32 AM
First, the really important news from last weekend: My beloved Longhorns went to Tuscaloosa and BEAT ALABAMA! Even the final episodes of THE REAL HAS COME could not dull the joy. For those who skipped the weekender I will only say that it did not improve. If you are interested in my postmortem for that show it is posted to my fan wall.
My wife really got into the Chinese Costume drama LOST YOU FOREVER and binge watched it. She says it is really good.
The two of us have been enjoying Chinese Costume drama romcom WRONG CARRIAGE RIGHT GROOM- it is a fun show. We are also watching DESTINED WITH YOU and like it a lot.
Because I usually dislike time travel in all of its forms and so it was actually my wife who binge watched A TIME CALLED YOU, the re-make of the T-drama masterpiece SOME DAY OR ONE DAY. She really liked it and apparently it does full justice to the original. Note: My distaste for time travel does not mean I am not looking forward to the upcoming THE STORY OF PARK’S MARRIAGE CONTRACT even though it may have a time travel element.
Viki recently added the classic weekender WHAT HAPPENS TO MY FAMILY? And I am re-watching it. I am amazed at how much I remember about this show even though it has been years since I first saw it. It is definitely one of the better ones and has helped me recover from the rage I felt towards the end of THE REAL HAS COME. It is a great example of how good a Weekender can be. There are reasons to feel hopeful about the weekender starting today: LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE has a far better cast and a great PD.
I am watching three J-dramas right now: MARRIAGE WITH ME, SERIOUSLY?, THE CINDERELLAS OF MIDSUMMER and THE DATE OF MARRIAGE as well as the anime MY HAPPY MARRIAGE. One episode per week is a bit frustrating but they are all good. Just for fun I also watched the Japanese movie ONCE UPON A CRIME: A grown up Little Red Hood solves the mystery of the murder of the nasty Royal Hair Stylist. Not great drama but fun.
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 10:36 AM
I meant to say "Little Red Riding Hood"
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
September 16, 2023 at 12:40 PM
Looking forward to your analysis of “Live Your Own Life.” It’s gotta be better than “The Real,” right? 😬
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OldLawyer
September 16, 2023 at 2:26 PM
It almost has to be (prays to the drama gods...).
We know that this time KBS hired solid cast and a great PD for the new show while the plot idea is not as 'controversial' as THE REAL: At least on the surface it does appear that KBS may have learned its lesson. Hopefully whoever handled casting for THE REAL has been transferred to a different job.
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43 MikeyD signed up
September 16, 2023 at 10:39 AM
I'm watching the 2022 J-drama 'Silent' and am greatly enjoying it. The drama does a pretty good job of avoiding the pitfalls of sentimentality, though the story does have the worst example of 'noble idiocy' I've seen in awhile.
J-drama rom-com 'Marriage with me? Seriously?' I want to say I'm watching it but I'm mostly just waiting for one 25 minute episode to drop per week. More waiting than watching.
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mmmmm
September 16, 2023 at 12:25 PM
The word “Silent” reminds me of Silent Sea. I don’t really recommend it, though. But if you think of it as a comedy fantasy sci-fi, it might help. The effort was there, the result, not yet.
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44 darwi
September 16, 2023 at 10:43 AM
We are still watching My lovely liar and I do not dare to ask my friend opinion for she will find me too negative...
We started Come and hug me.
And I got her to watch Fake it till you make it. We are still at the beginning. I love the jazzy ambiance. And all the flirting.
I've seen extracts of Forever love, with the main couple of Maid's revenge. They tried to reproduce the magic, but his acting limitations are more apparent so it's not as fun. Or maybe it's the republican setting that goes well with toxic addictive tension ? Circle of love has a terrible, evil ML who is looking at FL with eyes burning hotter as the hell he belongs. Don't watch it for the plot (triple amnesia!), and don't go in unknowingly.
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45 LaurenSophie
September 16, 2023 at 11:09 AM
MY LOVELY BOXER: What an emotionally satisfying show this continues to be! The baseball player's suicide was a powerful way to accomplish so many different things: advance the gangster plot, allow the FL's feelings for the ML to plausibly deepen, reveal how attached the ML was to his best friend as a means to making his later choices more sympathetic, and to bring the leads both closer and farther apart. I'm not sure where any of this is going, but so far, the writing hasn't let me down and the performances are top-notch. So here it is again, my weekly refrain: More people should watch this gem of a show!
DESTINED WITH YOU: I understand why so many were disappointed with Shin-yu this week, and certainly, he needs to follow his own advice and get it together already. But can I say that I don't mind that he's a mess? It makes complete sense to me that this man--who has always had tight control over his emotions, valued loyalty above all else, and never been in love before--would be this flummoxed by his continued, ardent attachment to the FL? I even understand why it's hard for him to fathom ending his engagement even though he doesn't truly love (or much like) Na-yeon. Every time he and the FL interact, the chemistry is so strong and Rowoon's face does that adorable, melty, "how can you be this amazing" thing to the point where I (almost) forgive him for everything. I'm also not bothered by the fact that the show is playing around with whether or not the spells were/are real without offering a definitive answer either way. Real love probably is a result of multiple factors including coincidence, sincerity, fate, magic, and yes, even neural coupling. So I'm down with the show suggesting it's everything and nothing all at once.
MOVING: I haven't quite finished yet because the dramatic tension is almost painful, but this is building up to be a great climax. Where is Doo-Shik, though? Also, I keep questioning whether or not it's even remotely plausible that all three kids ended up at the same school, especially when at least two of the three sets of parents were being so extraordinarily careful to hide themselves and their children's abilities. I'm struggling with that a bit, but at heart, this is a story about the unconditional love between parents and children, a theme absent from many kdramas, and it's rare that I don't tear up at least once per episode when we see that love on display.
A TIME CALLED YOU: No, it's nowhere near as good as the original, and so it's fair to say that its existence doesn't really add anything to the creative universe. In fact, I'm not sure why they re-made it at this point if they were going to stay so close to the original but not be superior to it. And the main actors are good, but they also seem miscast at the same time, if that makes any sense. All that said, I still enjoyed this drama because the story itself is just that good.
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Dorotka
September 16, 2023 at 11:24 PM
I don't mind that Shinyu is a mess, I mind how his cheating is basically glossed over. And I was terribly disappointed by Snake being the Big Bad Cheater, it somehow cheapens the story for me... I also miss more of the backstory, I still don't get why those 2 are together.
I'm with you about the ambiguity of the spell, in reality, we fall in love mostly because of the pheromones anyway. 😄
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46 DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 16, 2023 at 11:26 AM
Behind Your Touch
This show is getting very suspenseful but also hard to keep up with. I want us to have theories and land safe and maybe surprised in a few weeks. I hope someone make a good spreadsheet for theories, but in the meantime, I have made this, accessible to all. Please don’t eliminate if others write here, unless they write really ugly things. Even more please, make something better for us to keep track of who, where, why and how. I haven’t seen today’s episode yet.
Destined with You
I am infatuated with this show now, and has filled every comment’s section with my qualified opinions, and there’ll be more. Main theme: ML has practically been kidnapped by his ex, (and actually kidnapped by someone else?) so he is hardly two-timing.
And I have promised to make an extra post about why I don’t like SML.
Someone posted a long comment about how ML dreams up a very special scenario while trying to remember what happened during his blackout, and to her, I just want to say: Shin-yu: ep. 4, 49:30 “You hit my right side! Hit my left side, too!”
Can hardly wait till next Wednesday.
Finished rewatching Strong Girl Bong-soon
Made the Bingo Card and enjoyed the fluffy Herkules and her reduced-to-giggles boss-admirer. https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1452650/
Parts of that show I could really do without.
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Gikata
September 16, 2023 at 11:46 AM
You mean this whole imagination theater kinkiness analysis thread? Guilty as charged)))
https://www.dramabeans.com/2023/09/destined-with-you-episodes-5-6/#comment-4117637
Yass, HJ, pls give him some good DISCIPLINING asap, he's earned it by being a bad, bad boy!
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 16, 2023 at 12:34 PM
Yes, that was the one I meant. Thank you.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 16, 2023 at 12:32 PM
I forgot to put the link for the fact sheet and discussion on my FanWall. YOU are supposed to make the fact sheet worthy of it's name.
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/CecilieDK/activity/1455151/
Here it is
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47 Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 11:56 AM
Gosh, I don't know where to start with the mixed bag of emotions that When The Camellia Blooms is unexpectedly giving me. I loved it so much in the beginning. The screenwriter's magical way with words was like rain on parched land. I haven't seen a drama with such great dialogue in a very long time. But the more I watched the drama, the more the situation that the female lead was in seemed like watching a man-made tragedy unfolding before my eyes. I started to resent the male lead for coming in between the female lead and her ex. I could no longer enjoy their budding romance, it just felt extra and inappropriate. I felt like the story should have been centered around the female lead and her ex and them working out their issues. Not the male lead butting in and distracting from the story. I felt distraught for the kid. I felt increasingly frustrated with the female lead and the decisions she made in the past that helped create the current mess. And I was afraid to keep watching, because I felt the screenwriter and I were going to be at odds about the direction of the story. I wanted to see the female lead work on the issues between her and her ex instead of jumping into a new relationship. The ex was a decent guy, not the typical drama evil ex. Why did the screenwriter make him so nice and then tear them apart? Call me old fashioned, but unless the guy has serious issues such as domestic violence, cheating, gambling, lying, etc, isn't it always better for the kid that the parents hash out their issues and stay together? I was not in the mood for any new romance just thinking about how the kid would be losing his dad, a dad who still clearly loves the kid's mom. What I'm seeing now in When The Camellia Blooms is a deeply flawed female lead who probably should be in counseling before she makes another big, life-altering decision. It makes me reflect on myself and the flawed decisions I made in past relationships due to insecurities. I can't bring myself to finish watching this drama because I just don't have the heart for a new romance between the female lead and male lead. It seems like they're going to end up together, and that just breaks my heart for the kid, who already has a father who loves him and cares for him. I'm sure the new guy will do his best too, but there's just no need for that when he already has a father. This drama is a little too realistic in depicting broken families and how easy it is to create a broken family. A few misunderstandings, a few insecurities, a few careless and mean words, and you've got yourself a kid without a father. It's not just the female lead either, the ex also has his own mess that he helped create. This drama is a great example of the need for counseling and family planning/birth control. I just feel really sorry for the kid. I heard that my favorite actor's parents separated when he was 6, and it's a life-changing event that still affects him to this day. He's almost 40 but still...
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 12:18 PM
It sounds like Something in the rain the countryside edition re the female lead and the relationship issues.
Did the comment cut off?
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 12:27 PM
interesting, I keep hearing about Something in the Rain. will need to check it out. yes, it seems to have cut off at the very end. it's supposed to be "He's almost 40 but still afraid of marriage".
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 12:32 PM
So glad you finished the sentence.
Something in the rain is a rage watch for many because the early stages of the relationship were so on point that the middle to end phase became a frustrating to watch. If you do watch it, it will be interesting to hear your views.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 4:41 PM
Thanks for noticing the missing ending in the rambling rant :) Something in the Rain makes my knees quake because it's a noona romance, and noona romances are a genre I haven't yet had the courage to conquer. as an older sister in real life, the thought of ever falling for one of my younger sibling's friends freaks me out hahaha. I prefer oppa romances :D but I do like the title, Something in the Rain. It's very romantic sounding. haha I'll probably end up composing another rambling long rant that gets cut off at the end again :P
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 16, 2023 at 10:43 PM
@ahjummaaa no worries I have learnt the hard way to check my posts are complete before going anywhere else.
The fact there is a name for a romance between an older woman and younger man shows how most societies see this as unexpected. So every drama has to include the struggle for the woman to accept it as a normal situation and not a sign of deviance. Later they explore the the range of reactions from others until someone does the reality check of acknowledging that finding someone who is a good fit and adores you is a miracle in itself so everything else is irrelevant.
I watch them and find it interesting that the women often make comments about men in their twenties as if they are teens and yet that same woman knows that age discrimination effects us all.
The other element I noticed is that age differences are only seen as ‘a problem’ when the man is in his twenties as soon as he is thirty no one cares.
Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 2:44 PM
Whew! I had a completely different take on the show.
The FL met her boyfriend and became pregnant before he became rich and famous. But the power dynamic completely changed once he became a baseball star. He got caught up in his celebrity and practically forgot about her. I don’t think she would ever have been comfortable living in his world, even if he started being more attentive. I do think she should have told him about the baby and let him be involved in raising him.
I thought the FL and the ML were an ideal couple. Yes, he was loud and overprotective. But he was caring, attentive, and extremely sensitive to her needs. (Not to mention that he was also an adorable puppy.) He helped her find her inner strength and encouraged her to be more confident and independent. And he was a terrific, loving father figure for little Pil-Gu. I only wish I could find someone like him!
At any rate, I think the best thing for any child would be to live in a loving home with parents who both felt happy and fulfilled, rather than in an unhappy home with both birth parents. I know lots of perfectly happy, well-adjusted people whose parents divorced. It doesn’t necessarily have to end badly.
BTW - I don’t want to spoil the ending with the details, but the child’s birth father does get to move on with his life.
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Ahjummaaa
September 16, 2023 at 4:50 PM
oh yes thanks for presenting the other side so well. I completely agree and would have been onboard as well if it weren't for the pesky issue of the kid. It was a lovely romance and maybe the story should not have been made so complicated with a kid and ex (and ex's wife and new baby...) It weighed heavy on my heart. Plus, blended families, stepparents... these are all challenges for relationships. In the end, they may not necessarily be happier together. Plus, he's young and infatuated with her. The same issues tend to come up over and over again, just with different people. I feel like the ex took her for granted in the past, but he's certainly grown and matured (partly thanks to his eye-opening disasterous marriage) and he said he's willing to walk away from baseball if that's what it'll take to bring him back. And he's mentioned that the male lead is just like a younger version of himself. So basically, I do agree with you. And if it weren't for the kid, I'd be able to enjoy their story a lot more light heartedly and without any reserve. I guess I'm more willing to trust in the ex's change of heart rather than the male lead's current declaration of love, which may or may not change over time. I feel the ex is at a point in his life that he's willing to make things right.
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Babylilo
September 16, 2023 at 6:22 PM
***SPOILERS***
Well, we see at the end of the drama that the baseball player and his celebrity wife decide to work on their marriage as they raise their daughter together. Dong-Baek and Yong-Sik have a long and happy marriage, and Pil-Gu grows up to be a fine, well-adjusted young man.
But it’s not just Yong-Sik who’s a better fit for Dong-Baek: it’s the entire town of Ongsan. She is ultimately embraced by the close-knit community, including the feisty ahjummas. I don’t think the ex-boyfriend would be happy living with her out in the sticks, and I don’t see her being very happy living in a large city.
I don’t agree that Yong-Sik is just a younger version of the ex. He may be younger, but he’s far more self-aware and also far more considerate of others. He’s way above the other guy on the emotional intelligence scale. My favorite scene in the show may be the one where he leaps to Pil-Gu’s defense at the little league game.
https://youtu.be/FI_fTceiG60?feature=shared
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48 leeboo
September 16, 2023 at 12:19 PM
I saw an edit of “My Dearest”, and I just know I will start watching it once I’m done with “Moving”
Cdrama
“My journey to you”: people were complaining about the ending but I didn’t really mind. Almost all the threads were tied up neatly. I never expected a Happy ending, thus, the fact that almost all the characters were alive in the ending is already a good thing. My heart goes out to the Xue and Yue young masters. So devastating. A scene stealer for me in the midst of scene stealing actors (everyone can act!! And they are all pretty) was the actor that played Han Yasi. His eyes are so expressive. Whenever he is in the scene, I see only him.
“Hidden love”: soft dropped but I will pick it up as MJTY has ended and I don’t know any other cdrama to start. Please recommend any other dramas if you have for me.
Kdrama
Moving: my protagonist’s took some loses this week’s episode, but I expect them to turn the tide around next week.
It actually bothered me that despite all the parents efforts, their kids never escaped. Almost like they labored in vain. Nevertheless, Mihyun is amazing and I expect her to drop all her enemies like flies next week.
Love class 2: a bit rushed but that’s how kbl’s tend to be. I am always a sucker for friends to lovers stories so I preferred the first couple’s story line.
My lovely liar: Restarted it due to the plot twist. It’s cute
Thai drama:
Dangerous love: classic bully meets spunky adversary and they fall in love. I just love Perth’s eyes. So intense. Chimon is also unbelievably cute.
Only friends: watching only because of firstkhao. I fast forward every other couple’s scenes. They’re all toxic, nasty pieces of trash, especially Boston and Top. I hope they remain miserable for the rest of their existence.
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leeboo
September 16, 2023 at 12:36 PM
Taiwan:
Someday or one day: started watching it so that I can watch “A time called you” afterwards. I don’t like how I feel as I am watching it. It is depressing. But I will try and continue. It will probably take me a while to finish because I can only take such heavy emotions in small doses.
Kiseki: dear to me: I love the actors chemistry. The plot is stupid, but it’s the characters that matters anyway so I just watch their pretty faces and smile at their chemistry and antics.
COMPLETED:
Why r u: it felt like a school project. They cut away the already skeletal Thai plot and the only thing that remained were a bunch of characters acting out without reason. The entire series gave me a whiplash.
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john
September 16, 2023 at 3:58 PM
Someday or one day I just finished watching it.
You can do it ! Stay the course.
I thought the writer and the cast do a wonderful job.
A million twists and turns yet they pull it off.
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leeboo
September 17, 2023 at 3:48 AM
Alright!! I will persevere 🩵🩵
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49 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 16, 2023 at 12:31 PM
Moving: I LOVE this show, and I enjoyed these week episodes even tho they were really short and more focused on the action/suspense than the story itself.
But I just couldn't stop thinking "everyone knew a day like this was coming, so why didn't they give their kids some basic training?" If Beok Seon didn't throw a tantrum and told his mother he wanted to fly the day before, what would've happened to him this episode? LOL
Destined with You (dropped): Bye bye bye. See you never.
Life is Beautiful (EP50): I want the main couple to get married so bad. I want to see a ceremony!! For some reason I'm not that scared about Tae Sub coming out to his halmoni. I feel like no one can be as bad as Ki Wook mom was.
Revenant (EP3): the first episode made me feel really scared —maybe watching it at 3AM helped—, but since then, it feels more like a crime/thriller drama than anything else. I was expecting to get all my senses messed up like it happened with The Guest. But I'm getting a Black or Voice vibe instead.
I like all those shows so it isn't a bad thing, but I don't want to just solve crimes, I want to have nightmares!!
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PYC
September 16, 2023 at 8:56 PM
Moving - a lot of Beanies feel the kids should be empowered to act on their special abilities but it’s clearly a conscious decision of the parents not to do so. That will get their excruciating efforts undone but I think the final three episodes will give us the answer as to how the drama lands on this question. It may also pave the way for a S2. I’m between two minds as to whether future seasons are warranted when this season is almost perfect.
Life Is Beautiful (2010) - I rarely see Beanies discuss or watch this which is my all time favorite family drama. The main couple is so precious and they inject into the story the polar opposite attitudes from the two families about their coming out and get-together. The other relationships about the siblings, uncles and aunties are all so well-portrayed and balanced that I consider this is the one to beat as far as family weekenders are concerned.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 16, 2023 at 10:56 PM
Moving: yeah, I know it was a choice, I just believe it was the wrong one. 😂 Telling the kids nothing and not help them to control their powers is what made Bong Seok go around floating and Kang Hoon make a pact with the evil guy. Ignorance isn't good for your kids when you have the bad guys from both Koreas chasing them and you're not there to protect them 24/7. That's what I think.
Life is Beautiful: I know. I'm watching the show thanks to you.
Last year you recommend it to me. Hahaha.
I agree, the family dynamic and the characters are great. I like how consistent the show is, and how even if the family dynamic is pretty unique, they also feel realistic and relatable. I think it's the consistency and the slice of life vibe the show sometimes has, that makes them feel like a regular family.
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PYC
September 17, 2023 at 8:39 AM
Thanks for trying out the recommendation! I like how Life Is Beautiful is pretty much devoid of makjiang (which is a norm for family weekenders).
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 18, 2023 at 9:52 AM
Moving
The parents decision to keep their children in the dark has now endangered them. The lack of knowledge, training and guidance to the children have left the vulnerable and they cannot even rely upon their own natural ability to protect themselves.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 19, 2023 at 1:20 PM
That's exactly what I think.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
September 19, 2023 at 7:40 PM
We know it is a story and all will be well and the parents did it out of love and to protect the children but whether IRL or fiction - this is just bad parenting.
50 redfox
September 16, 2023 at 12:44 PM
im just thinking of different weird places that the DWY plot might be. It is not Christmas yet, so it is not in a sock. is it perhaps in the bird nest? Or deposit box 51? I am sure I looked in the wine cellar, wasn´t there. And it wasn´t in the pantry. Where could it be?
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