Beanies, I am watching Scarlet Heart but one part confuses me why after the marriage with CP was canceled, Ruoxi asked 4th prince to marry her. I didn’t get the feeling she fell for him back then.
It’s her having the future knowledge of what happens in history:
She knows that 4th Prince will eventually become Emperor and how dangerous and slimy 8th Prince is (and will dive deeper into), so even if they don’t have feelings for each other at this point, she’s paving the road for herself so she’s guaranteed safety since she doesn’t know the specifics of her time-slipping and how long she’s going to be there
The theory of Gwi-ju dying while saving Da-hae and how though she is alive now, she might die if he doesn’t go and save her. It is the timetravel thing that I find confusing. I can understand what they are implyimg but I think it is too complicated.
We finally got Gwi-ju and I-na’s relationship repaired. So, why this twist now?
Ah, I see what you mean. It’s the inevitable home stretch angst, isn’t it?
The show has an interesting take on time travel. It has only one timeline in which the present (Gwi-ju) is fated to go back to the past (Da-hae) as predicted in the future (Mother Bok), sort of a closed, inevitable loop.
I might not be right and I’m probably doing a poor job explaining. 😅 Let’s see what other Beanies say.
It is presented to us as if Gwi-ju will die when he goes to save her. And probably he can’t not do it, and definitely he WILL do it.
But notice that his mother hasn’t seen him die. She only saw that he “wouldn’t have time” to get out.
Well, first: You know how he disappears, right? He doesn’t really need time, he just stops being there. But apart from that, you know he has been doing all his best to come back and help at that fire, and has just been watching helplessly every time.
BECAUSE Dong-hee wasn’t there to help him! 100 to 1 Da-hae will finally be saved by a cooperating team of back-in-time-travellers, his flying scissor, and his mindreading daughter. And maybe his kind father, and of course those sauna people except scary mum.
I’ve read this theory and I LOVE it (they’re working together to pull off the ultimate con: conning fate!) But I don’t know how they could go back in time with Gwi-ju. Unless maybe he’s gonna get their past selves to help him, that could be it.
The time travel thing is confusing but that’s just how time travel works. As long as Da-hae isn’t vanishing, it means Gwi-ju went back in time and saved her.
He might be able to bring someone, if he holds them. Like his clothes and the ring, maybe he can bring another person. And like Dong-hee probably will get to bring another person when she flies.
RIght from the first episode I had the feeling this story was being told backwards. And it is. Just accept that you will always only understand what is happening somewhat later.
It is probably a drama worth seeing again, when you have seen the final episode. 🙂
Thr rules are:
1)Gwi-ju can only travel back in time.
That means that whatever he does, he has already done. He just doesn’t know until he goes back in time and does it. Or Da-hae can tell him. It can have happened 2 minutes ago, or thirteen years.
2) He can only touch things that has something to do with Da-hae. And only Da-hae can see him. The mirror can’t “see” him, either.
3) He cannot always control when. For a long time, he left all the time, and he couldn’t help it. That’s how he lost his wife.
***
4) Man-heuk dreams of the future. She has not yet been able to prevent anything that she has dreamt would happen.
5) What she sees is like in a dream; it is not made very clear what is going on.
6) That means that if she dreams a car lay smashed up at the side of the road with you in it, best thing you can do is to smash a car and sit in it a bit. 😉
Her vision will have come true, but you will not be dead.
She draws hastened conclusions. Lottery tickets are simple. But she has interpreted the ring on Da-hae’s finger in three different ways already. She says Gwi-ju will die, but really, she doesn’t know that. And the “not having time” part is nonsense. She has seen the explosion, I guess, and an empty casket at a funeral.
The rules as regards to her dreams is a bit like in some kinds of fan fic, where everything important happens in the scenes between the “official” scenes, but at best so that in glimpses, it fits exactly with the official version.
Thank you so much for taking time and giving us this detailed explanation. Much appreciated😊😊
Yeah Man-heum’s visions aren’t that reliable so let’s hope her conclusion was wrong
That thought just occured to me. What if the time travel was only limited to reliving happy moments and no saving is included. And instead give time to character dev that is barely here 😂😂 But again since when dramas followed the path we wish😂
So I actually think Gwi-ju CAN control it (like this latest ep when he went back to see that actress in that movie), but it can also happen outside of his control.
Oh, I just saw that you said “always” so you already said that. Sorry! Also, I agree that he didn’t really die. Mama Bok isn’t seeing the full picture.
Kang Ha-neul has caught my eyes since The Heirs. It might have been not a big of a role but he was outstanding. I don’t know if it is because of the nature of her dramas but I didn’t get sold on Chun Woo-hee yet. I watched Be Melodramatic and Delightfully Deceitful before getting into the Atypical Family. Still, I found her quite likable in endless rain..
Beanies, I just watched Soulmate Kmovie. But the ending confuses me. So, the last scene of Jeon So-nee traveling was just an imagination, and the reality is that she died.
Yes notifications is one of the site issues that seems to impact one group of beanies for a period, then everything returns to normal for them and then the next group of beanies experiences the error.
I am holding onto hope since true beauty also had happy ending but I am worried our definition of a happy ending and the writer’s might differ a bit. I want no one sacrificed here. Just sacrifice Taxi Driver and give our leads a happy ending.
The things Da Hae has already lived in her past (recent past) are things that Gwi-ju has not lived yet (he has lived the same situations but differently). But then, in the future, he comes back to those moments and he does everything the way Da Hae had experienced.
It seems at first when he was a child he was able to control it. After Ina’s birth he tried to control it but he was so obsessed with that day that he kept going back even if he didn’t want to.
And now he is discovering new things about his power, but he can’t control it yet.
This is the part that I find confusing as well, but I’m waiting for the show to explain it. I think it’ll come down to whatever super power or other issue is ascribed to Da-hae. Clearly, she’s not ordinary, either.
Well, the ML does everything because she tells him to do it (what she says he already did), so it kinda seems forced because he does it after hearing her say he already did it. He never did it out of freewill or just randomly.
It happens because she says it happens, which is weird. So if she has some mind-control superpower I wouldn’t find it odd.
But tbh I think he does everything just because.
We didn’t see the hand holding and hug at the fountain date in the present i.e. before he went back but we did see his future self holding her hand in the mall and holding her in front of that mirror so she did experience it before she told him about it.
But you remember she told him it happened? She told him he hugged her and gave her flowers. We saw her appear with the flowers.
Even if they didn’t show her experience, she had proof of it. When he got the flowers and went back, everything she said came true.
When that happened she didn’t believe that he had powers yet, so it wasn’t like she was lying (like she did with the marriage papers). It really did happen.
With QOT ending this week, I picked up The Producers to watch. And did I mention how entertaining it is? Ep 1 was a little boring, but the show got better along the way.
Bunny Sonaki
August 6, 2024 at 7:02 AM
Beanies, I am watching Scarlet Heart but one part confuses me why after the marriage with CP was canceled, Ruoxi asked 4th prince to marry her. I didn’t get the feeling she fell for him back then.
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
August 6, 2024 at 8:51 AM
It’s her having the future knowledge of what happens in history:
She knows that 4th Prince will eventually become Emperor and how dangerous and slimy 8th Prince is (and will dive deeper into), so even if they don’t have feelings for each other at this point, she’s paving the road for herself so she’s guaranteed safety since she doesn’t know the specifics of her time-slipping and how long she’s going to be there
Bunny Sonaki
August 6, 2024 at 8:50 PM
I got it. Thanks a lot.
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 4:57 AM
The Midnight Romance That is exactly what I was hoping to see
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 4:56 AM
The Atypical Family What is that confusing mess! My head is going around in circles.
indyfan
June 3, 2024 at 5:53 AM
What part did you find confusing?
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 6:01 AM
The theory of Gwi-ju dying while saving Da-hae and how though she is alive now, she might die if he doesn’t go and save her. It is the timetravel thing that I find confusing. I can understand what they are implyimg but I think it is too complicated.
We finally got Gwi-ju and I-na’s relationship repaired. So, why this twist now?
indyfan
June 3, 2024 at 6:09 AM
Ah, I see what you mean. It’s the inevitable home stretch angst, isn’t it?
The show has an interesting take on time travel. It has only one timeline in which the present (Gwi-ju) is fated to go back to the past (Da-hae) as predicted in the future (Mother Bok), sort of a closed, inevitable loop.
I might not be right and I’m probably doing a poor job explaining. 😅 Let’s see what other Beanies say.
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM
You are right. But the problem is that one can understand and not understand the drama at the same time😂😂😂😂
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 6:20 AM
It is presented to us as if Gwi-ju will die when he goes to save her. And probably he can’t not do it, and definitely he WILL do it.
But notice that his mother hasn’t seen him die. She only saw that he “wouldn’t have time” to get out.
Well, first: You know how he disappears, right? He doesn’t really need time, he just stops being there. But apart from that, you know he has been doing all his best to come back and help at that fire, and has just been watching helplessly every time.
BECAUSE Dong-hee wasn’t there to help him! 100 to 1 Da-hae will finally be saved by a cooperating team of back-in-time-travellers, his flying scissor, and his mindreading daughter. And maybe his kind father, and of course those sauna people except scary mum.
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 7:08 AM
That is a possible theory indeed.
vienibenmio
June 3, 2024 at 8:15 AM
I’ve read this theory and I LOVE it (they’re working together to pull off the ultimate con: conning fate!) But I don’t know how they could go back in time with Gwi-ju. Unless maybe he’s gonna get their past selves to help him, that could be it.
The time travel thing is confusing but that’s just how time travel works. As long as Da-hae isn’t vanishing, it means Gwi-ju went back in time and saved her.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 8:57 AM
He might be able to bring someone, if he holds them. Like his clothes and the ring, maybe he can bring another person. And like Dong-hee probably will get to bring another person when she flies.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 6:13 AM
RIght from the first episode I had the feeling this story was being told backwards. And it is. Just accept that you will always only understand what is happening somewhat later.
It is probably a drama worth seeing again, when you have seen the final episode. 🙂
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 7:10 AM
Yeah! You are right. Everything will be cleared next week but those complicated rules were more annoying than intriguing.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 7:37 AM
Thr rules are:
1)Gwi-ju can only travel back in time.
That means that whatever he does, he has already done. He just doesn’t know until he goes back in time and does it. Or Da-hae can tell him. It can have happened 2 minutes ago, or thirteen years.
2) He can only touch things that has something to do with Da-hae. And only Da-hae can see him. The mirror can’t “see” him, either.
3) He cannot always control when. For a long time, he left all the time, and he couldn’t help it. That’s how he lost his wife.
***
4) Man-heuk dreams of the future. She has not yet been able to prevent anything that she has dreamt would happen.
5) What she sees is like in a dream; it is not made very clear what is going on.
6) That means that if she dreams a car lay smashed up at the side of the road with you in it, best thing you can do is to smash a car and sit in it a bit. 😉
Her vision will have come true, but you will not be dead.
She draws hastened conclusions. Lottery tickets are simple. But she has interpreted the ring on Da-hae’s finger in three different ways already. She says Gwi-ju will die, but really, she doesn’t know that. And the “not having time” part is nonsense. She has seen the explosion, I guess, and an empty casket at a funeral.
The rules as regards to her dreams is a bit like in some kinds of fan fic, where everything important happens in the scenes between the “official” scenes, but at best so that in glimpses, it fits exactly with the official version.
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 7:48 AM
Thank you so much for taking time and giving us this detailed explanation. Much appreciated😊😊
Yeah Man-heum’s visions aren’t that reliable so let’s hope her conclusion was wrong
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 9:20 AM
Thanks for liking it. I sometimes get the “Duh! I knew that, obvio!” reaction when I go all lifted-finger-nerdy.
Bunny Sonaki
June 3, 2024 at 7:57 AM
That thought just occured to me. What if the time travel was only limited to reliving happy moments and no saving is included. And instead give time to character dev that is barely here 😂😂 But again since when dramas followed the path we wish😂
vienibenmio
June 3, 2024 at 8:17 AM
So I actually think Gwi-ju CAN control it (like this latest ep when he went back to see that actress in that movie), but it can also happen outside of his control.
vienibenmio
June 3, 2024 at 8:18 AM
Oh, I just saw that you said “always” so you already said that. Sorry! Also, I agree that he didn’t really die. Mama Bok isn’t seeing the full picture.
vienibenmio
June 3, 2024 at 8:16 AM
I remember you saying this in the comments on ep 1 or 2, and you were so right! How clever and insightful of you to see it even early on.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
June 3, 2024 at 8:47 AM
Aw, shucks!
Bunny Sonaki
May 31, 2024 at 10:20 PM
Endless Rain/Waiting for rain movie should come with a warning. What is this last minute twist🥺🥺🥺!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 31, 2024 at 11:59 PM
Wasn’t it always there!?
Bunny Sonaki
June 1, 2024 at 12:42 AM
I didn’t see the melodrama genre until the ending credit rolled. Silly me, expecting that was a romance film.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
June 1, 2024 at 1:22 AM
🙃🙈 No worries. Sometimes we should be surprised!! 😮
Bunny Sonaki
June 1, 2024 at 1:44 AM
Yeah. Sometimes a surprise might be good. It was a good movie, nevertheless.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
June 1, 2024 at 1:56 AM
I really like Kang Ha-neul. Chun Woo-hee is great in slightly conflicted portrayals just like in her latest drama.
Bunny Sonaki
June 1, 2024 at 2:17 AM
Kang Ha-neul has caught my eyes since The Heirs. It might have been not a big of a role but he was outstanding. I don’t know if it is because of the nature of her dramas but I didn’t get sold on Chun Woo-hee yet. I watched Be Melodramatic and Delightfully Deceitful before getting into the Atypical Family. Still, I found her quite likable in endless rain..
🌸 Seeker 🌸
June 1, 2024 at 2:27 AM
I have loved Kang Ha-neul in everything ever. ❤🤭 There hasn’t been a time where I’ve not liked him. 😂
Bunny Sonaki
June 1, 2024 at 3:19 AM
Kang Ha-neul is impressive indeed.
Bunny Sonaki
May 28, 2024 at 8:46 PM
Our star instructor heroine has some tough choices to make on both work and romance fronts.
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/the-midnight-romance-in-hagwon-episodes-5-and-6-recap/
Thank you
Bunny Sonaki
May 25, 2024 at 2:06 AM
Beanies, I just watched Soulmate Kmovie. But the ending confuses me. So, the last scene of Jeon So-nee traveling was just an imagination, and the reality is that she died.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
May 25, 2024 at 6:38 AM
Yes, that was my understanding. It took me surprise as I did not see it coming at all.
Bunny Sonaki
May 26, 2024 at 8:12 AM
Sorry for the late reply. I have notifications issue.
I thought they only had a falling out but the ending was indeed surprising.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
May 26, 2024 at 9:26 AM
Yes notifications is one of the site issues that seems to impact one group of beanies for a period, then everything returns to normal for them and then the next group of beanies experiences the error.
Bunny Sonaki
May 24, 2024 at 12:53 AM
Spending the week wishing for a happy ending or else will cry my eyes out and make a fuss for 7 days. #lovelyrunner
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
May 24, 2024 at 3:28 AM
I’m right there with you 🥲
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 24, 2024 at 4:20 AM
No way they won’t have a happy ending … isn’t it.
Bunny Sonaki
May 24, 2024 at 4:28 AM
I am holding onto hope since true beauty also had happy ending but I am worried our definition of a happy ending and the writer’s might differ a bit. I want no one sacrificed here. Just sacrifice Taxi Driver and give our leads a happy ending.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 24, 2024 at 5:09 AM
Since that ferris wheel conversation I do hope the writer’s happy ending coincides with Sun-Jae and not Sol. 🤞
Bunny Sonaki
May 24, 2024 at 7:54 AM
I am crossing all my ten fingers here 😂😂😂😂
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
May 24, 2024 at 1:10 PM
Oh my gosh please yes 🙏
Bunny Sonaki
May 22, 2024 at 9:30 AM
If erasing herself from his life means keeping her idol safe, Sol will gladly bear the brunt. But can she be happy like this?
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/lovely-runner-episodes-3-4-recap
Bunny Sonaki
May 21, 2024 at 8:16 AM
Our instructor and her former student sallying forth may bring them closer but it also means more competition
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/the-midnight-romance-in-hagwon-episodes-3-and-4-recap
Bunny Sonaki
May 16, 2024 at 4:31 AM
Our heroine deemed her first student her pride, but their reunion as colleagues might not be something she foresaw.
https://kdramadiary.com/feature/k-drama-first-look-the-midnight-romance-in-hagwon/
Bunny Sonaki
May 16, 2024 at 4:29 AM
Love isin the air with our leads trying to make every moment count. But it ends on sour note when our psychopath shows up
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/lovely-runner-episodes-11-and-12-recap/
Bunny Sonaki
May 13, 2024 at 3:14 AM
The Atypical Family. What do you mean by Da-hae’s past is Gwi-ju’s future? Even the time travel rules are atypical.
Isa is always time travelling
May 13, 2024 at 5:24 AM
The things Da Hae has already lived in her past (recent past) are things that Gwi-ju has not lived yet (he has lived the same situations but differently). But then, in the future, he comes back to those moments and he does everything the way Da Hae had experienced.
Bunny Sonaki
May 13, 2024 at 7:17 AM
Yeah. But this means he has no control on anything.
Isa is always time travelling
May 13, 2024 at 7:30 AM
It seems at first when he was a child he was able to control it. After Ina’s birth he tried to control it but he was so obsessed with that day that he kept going back even if he didn’t want to.
And now he is discovering new things about his power, but he can’t control it yet.
LaurenSophie
May 13, 2024 at 6:28 AM
This is the part that I find confusing as well, but I’m waiting for the show to explain it. I think it’ll come down to whatever super power or other issue is ascribed to Da-hae. Clearly, she’s not ordinary, either.
Bunny Sonaki
May 13, 2024 at 7:18 AM
Giving her a super power of sorts seems intriguing.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 13, 2024 at 12:48 PM
She keeps telling him exactly what he has to do in the future to make her past happen. I think it’s a time paradox or something.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 18, 2024 at 11:48 PM
Do you think she’s able to control his future by implanting ideas in his head or has she really experienced his future.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 19, 2024 at 12:06 AM
Well, the ML does everything because she tells him to do it (what she says he already did), so it kinda seems forced because he does it after hearing her say he already did it. He never did it out of freewill or just randomly.
It happens because she says it happens, which is weird. So if she has some mind-control superpower I wouldn’t find it odd.
But tbh I think he does everything just because.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 19, 2024 at 12:16 AM
We didn’t see the hand holding and hug at the fountain date in the present i.e. before he went back but we did see his future self holding her hand in the mall and holding her in front of that mirror so she did experience it before she told him about it.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 19, 2024 at 12:23 AM
But you remember she told him it happened? She told him he hugged her and gave her flowers. We saw her appear with the flowers.
Even if they didn’t show her experience, she had proof of it. When he got the flowers and went back, everything she said came true.
When that happened she didn’t believe that he had powers yet, so it wasn’t like she was lying (like she did with the marriage papers). It really did happen.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 19, 2024 at 12:17 AM
Maybe it is the editing or intentionally withheld information but its too confusing.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 18, 2024 at 11:49 PM
What do you mean by time paradox – seems intriguing.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 19, 2024 at 12:16 AM
A time paradox is a time contradiction, or something like that.
Like in this case, the future causes the past but then the past is what makes the future possible.
Conclusion: it’s nonsense with no beginning/end or regular logic. 😆
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 19, 2024 at 12:55 AM
Thank you I think that is the best explanation. Better than even what the drama is telling us.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 19, 2024 at 1:48 AM
Glad it helps! I get confused when I try to explain it to myself too. Hahaha.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
May 19, 2024 at 1:53 AM
😂 🫰
Bunny Sonaki
May 8, 2024 at 10:04 PM
With one chance left, our girl switches her technique. Instead of following him around, she pushes him away
Full Recap
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/lovely-runner-episodes-9-10-recap/
Thank you
Bunny Sonaki
May 6, 2024 at 8:14 AM
Desperate to help her family regain their powers, our matriarch joins hands with a woman she barely knows
Full Recap
https://kdramadiary.com/feature/k-drama-first-look-the-atypical-family/
Thanks
Bunny Sonaki
May 1, 2024 at 6:05 AM
What a packed week. My head is almost hurt from the many details we are getting 😂but I can’t be more amused.
Full recap
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/lovely-runner-episodes-7-and-8-recap/
Bunny Sonaki
May 1, 2024 at 6:05 AM
Thanks in advance
Bunny Sonaki
April 30, 2024 at 6:03 AM
QOT has come to an end and while the sparks of greatness were there, I can’t help but think about what could have been.
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-review/queen-of-tears-tvn/
Thanks in advance.
Bunny Sonaki
April 27, 2024 at 1:06 AM
With QOT ending this week, I picked up The Producers to watch. And did I mention how entertaining it is? Ep 1 was a little boring, but the show got better along the way.
korfan
April 27, 2024 at 6:01 AM
I still haven’t gotten around to watching this one! One of these days!
Bunny Sonaki
April 24, 2024 at 5:19 AM
Being neighbors with Seon-jae was lucky enough. But when Sol learns he likes her, it seems it is time to rethink her emotions
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/lovely-runner-episodes-5-and-6-recap/
Bunny Sonaki
April 24, 2024 at 5:19 AM
Hoping you like it
Thanks in advance
Bunny Sonaki
April 23, 2024 at 4:45 AM
Losing one’s memories indeed is scary. But with Hyun-woo by her side, Hae-in musters up the courage to get the surgery.
Full recap
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/queen-of-tears-episode-14-recap/
Bunny Sonaki
April 22, 2024 at 8:14 AM
Miracles come at a cost and to regain her health, Hai-in might have to give up something just as precious.
Full recap
https://kdramadiary.com/kdrama-recap/queen-of-tears-episode-13-recap/
Thanks a lot