The Judge from Hell: Episodes 11-12
by DaebakGrits
Praise be unto the K-drama gods, for they have delivered unto us a penultimate week full of much needed answers. Even though there is a lot crammed into these two episodes, the pacing is consistently exciting and leaves no room for boring filler.
EPISODES 11-12
After last week’s cliffhanger, I think everyone was expecting at least one half of our OTP to get stabbed — or at least slightly maimed — by Paimon’s lance. Instead, Ah-rong shows up at the last minute to kick the flying weapon out of the way, and her act of heroism is the only thing that keeps Bit-na from tearing her limb from limb. It may be Ah-rong’s demon occupation to hunt down other demons who have become emotionally attached to humans, but Bit-na can’t forgive her for going after Da-on. For one, he’s an innocent (for now) human, and for another, that’s Bit-na’s man. So, while Bit-na may spare Ah-rong from her wrath, she also tells the lesser demon that she never wants to see her again, which is the ultimate punishment for Ah-rong, who stans Bit-na as though she was a K-pop idol.
And speaking of punishment, Bit-na has to face her own because she’s broken quite a few demon taboos (killing a fellow demon, falling in love with a human, etc.). Bael strips her of her powers, rendering her as defenseless as a human, which is going to make her mission to hunt down and kill unrepentant killers a lot more difficult — but not impossible.
Meanwhile, Da-on is questioned by the police about his connection to his new partner’s death. Since Da-on can’t tell the other detectives that his new partner was possessed by a demon, he plays the I-don’t-know-anything card. After he’s released, he’s both boastful and remorseful (in a what have I become? kind of way) that he’s a better liar than he’d thought — but I’m going to disagree with our detective on this one. He’s a very crappy liar, and his fellow officers are either really shitty detectives or willing to overlook Da-on’s obviously suspicious answers because he’s one of their own. Like, is no one going to comment on the cuts on Da-on’s face and ask if he fought with his partner? Inconsistent, shoddy detective work when it’s convenient for the plot has been a running issue with this drama, so I really shouldn’t make an issue of it this late in the game, but — c’mon!
Given the unreliableness of the police, though, it’s no wonder that Bit-na, who is practically human at this point, must go undercover to determine J and Satan’s identity. Still unconvinced that Deadbeat Brother has it in him to be a serial killer, Bit-na infiltrates his family’s home by brazenly showing up and asking the assemblyman for a second chance at being his daughter-in-law. This time, though, she surprises everyone at the dinner table when she asks for Deadbeat Brother’s hand in marriage.
Deadbeat Brother is so shocked by the outlandish proposal — and his father’s immediate acceptance — that he storms off from the table. Bit-na follows and discovers — along with a disturbingly large airsoft gun collection that’s completely incongruous with the rest of the polished decor — the door to a secret room hidden behind a bookshelf full of reference books. Finding out what’s on the other side of the door, however, will have to wait until her next visit. For now, she and Da-on try to assemble the few puzzle pieces they already have in hand.
Da-on and what’s left of his detective team are back to investigating Bit-na’s string of killings in earnest — completely unperturbed by the fact that they recently lost another member of their team and that Da-on was an initial suspect. You’d think Da-on’s teammate, who’s keen-eyed enough to deduce Bit-na is involved in the forehead killings, would take one look at Da-on’s cut and bruised face and be equally suspicious of Da-on’s recent behavior, but no, he’s laser focused on Bit-na.
However, he’s willing to concede — thanks to Da-on consistently vouching for her character — that she might not be their killer. Even so, he argues that they should still dig into her background, her recent stabbing, and the people connected to her — namely, the assemblyman and Bit-na’s ex-fiancé. Given that his teammate’s intuition partially aligns with his and Bit-na’s own investigation, Da-on doesn’t protest much over his teammate’s logic, and the two men reconcile after Da-on’s teammate breaks down in tears over his own guilt and inability to save So-young from her killer. And so, while their objectives align, they reinvestigate Bit-na’s stabbing, which was seemingly covered up by her ex-fiancé’s family.
When Da-on discovers that Bit-na’s own investigation has led her to go undercover as Deadbeat Brother’s new fiancee, he’s a bit pouty and jealous, which opens the door for Bit-na to take him out on a date. Given that she learned everything she knows about first aid from K-dramas, one can only assume that she also picked up her date ideas from the same source because this week’s dating montage features some familiar dating tropes. But, of course, Bit-na puts her own characteristic demon twist on them all.
Although the fluffiness of these scenes feels at odds with the overall tone of the drama, this OTP really needed more “couple time” to solidify their relationship status. Because, let’s be real — for a story that’s steeped in the mythos of a prophesied star-crossed romance, it’s been rather light in the romance department — lots of blood and gore with the occasional drunken confession, almost kiss, and heroic rescue. More importantly, though, this dating montage reveals that Bit-na, in addition to having feelings for Da-on, desires the normalcy of a human relationship, which really ups the stakes for Bit-na as she draws closer to fulfilling Gabriel’s prophecy. Yes, there’s a loophole that will allow her to spend eternity in hell with Da-on after he kills J and avenges his family, but that’s clearly not what Bit-na wants for either of them now.
First things first, though. Bit-na needs to take a look inside that hidden room in the assemblyman’s house. On a day when she knows Tae-gyu and his father are out bribing other politicians golfing, she shows up extra early for their scheduled dinner to explore Satan’s secret lair, which consists of three rooms: a fancy lobby area with its own reflecting pool, a rustic looking bedroom, and — the most important — a bonafide demon dungeon hidden inside a painting that’s accessible only to demons, including the powerless Bit-na. It’s here that Bit-na finds the murder weapon and the severed body parts belonging to J’s victims frozen and on full display.
The other two rooms in the lair, however, can be accessed by humans, which is how Deadbeat Brother catches Bit-na in the act of stealing the murder weapon. He knocks her unconscious and when she wakes, she’s bound — but her vulnerability gives Deadbeat Brother the confidence to monologue a bit and provide Bit-na (and the viewers) with some much needed backstory and explanations.
We flashback to the night human Bit-na was stabbed and accidently sent to hell. Before she died, she innocently took herself on a little tour of Tae-gyu’s house while waiting for him to arrive home. This is how she accidentally discovered the hidden lair and a video of Tae-gyu torturing Deadbeat Brother’s mother — a textbook lesson in why you should never invite a bibliophile into your home if you have a secret demon dungeon hidden behind a bookshelf. Horrified by what she’s seen — and the menacing look on Tae-gyu’s face when he catches her in the lair — Bit-na flees, promising to never tell anyone about what she saw on the tape. Yeah, like Tae-gyu’s going to let her live after witnessing his dark secret. But instead of getting his hands dirty, Tae-gyu makes a deal with his brother: go kill Bit-na, and I’ll reward you with some drugs.
In the present, Deadbeat Brother intends to finish what he started in the past, but Da-on shows up to rescue Bit-na, with a little help from Ah-rong, who remains loyal to Bit-na. In the chaos, Deadbeat Brother escapes with the murder weapon, but despite his past and present attempts on Bit-na’s life, she’s more positive than ever that he is not Satan. He was not able to open the painting’s hidden room, so Satan must be either Tae-gyu or his father.
Now that Bit-na is close to catching Satan and finding the Kylum, she contacts Bael and barters this information in exchange for her powers. Once she’s restored to full power, she and her friends — including Ah-rong, who’s rejoined the team — set into motion a trap in order to identify Satan. Their plan begins with them hunting down Deadbeat Brother and faking his death. This allows Bit-na and friends to point the police investigation towards Tae-gyu and his father (thanks to a fake suicide note) while buying them the time they need to spy on their suspects via magic mirror. At just the right moment, Deadbeat Brother miraculously returns from the dead and hands the murder weapon over to the police.
Through her magic mirror, Bit-na watches as a panicked Tae-gyu retrieves the Kylum from its hiding spot, but Tae-gyu isn’t Satan. No, his father is Satan, and Tae-gyu is merely a psychopath doing Satan’s bidding in exchange for the power and success. You see, twenty-five years ago Tae-gyu (who is a lot older than I thought, BTW) murdered his father after he refused to acknowledge or provide for Tae-gyu, his illegitimate son. Satan (cameo by Park Ho-san) moved into his vacated body, and since then, Tae-gyu has been killing and dismembering people so Satan can collect the body parts he needs to Frankenstein his own immortal flesh bag.
As for the whole redevelopment plot, that was so Satan could demolish and dig up the area where he lost the Kylum, which, unbeknownst to Satan, Tae-gyu had already located. Tae-gyu offers up the Kylum in exchange for a get-out-of-South-Korea-and-jail free card. He’s fearful the police will find forensic evidence that ties him to the murder weapon, but then he goes and mucks it up by trying to backstab and kill Satan… in the mirage world that Satan conjured to see his innermost desires. Tae-gyu flees, bleeding profusely from the stab wound Satan gave him, but Satan doesn’t bother following him. He’s got the Kylum, so off to the demon dungeon he goes.
Bit-na, however, is not far behind him, so before he can insert the Kylum into his new, some-assembly-required body, she puts a pause on the whole satanic ritual. What ensues is another epic demon-on-demon battle — with a brief intermission while Satan uses his powers to reveal Bit-na’s innermost desires. While under his spell, Bit-na imagines her wedding to Da-on, and once again, I’m thankful for the brief dating montage in Episode 11 that set the groundwork for this particular fantasy. Given they’ve only gone on one official date, it’s still rather surprising that she’s already thinking about marriage, but, hey, who am I to question the speed at which a demon falls in love — especially when it’s fated?
The illusion Satan cast over Bit-na is broken as the sound of him chanting a spell breaks through and a raging storm interrupts the wedding ceremony. She returns to reality just in time to watch Satan reanimate the frozen corpse of Deadbeat Brother’s mother. After fighting off the zombie mother, Bit-na steps up her game, defeats Satan, and puts him and the Kylum on an express train to hell.
With the demonic villain defeated, that just leaves one baddie: the human psychopath and serial killer Tae-gyu. Still bleeding from his leg and unable to legally leave the country, Tae-gyu hires a boat captain to ferry him out of the country, but mid journey, the boat “breaks down” in the middle of the bay. Out pops Da-on, who proceeds to beat the absolute crap out of his family’s murderer. Da-on’s rage builds as Tae-gyu taunts him with the tragic details of So-young’s final moments.
Like Da-on, when So-young had thought she’d found his family’s killer, she’d told him that she’d waited twenty-five years for the moment she could face him down. Unfortunately, she’d cornered Deadbeat Brother in the alley, and Tae-gyu had caught her by surprise and shot her. After the brothers moved her to another location, she fought gallantly to the end, going so far as to carve Tae-gyu’s name in her arm with a rusty screw to help her fellow detectives find her killer. Unfortunately, her defiant behavior and confidence alerted Tae-gyu to her actions, and he took a sadistic pleasure in dismembering her arm while she was still alive.
Upon hearing these words, Da-on is on the verge of killing the unrepentant Tae-gyu and upholding his end of the bargain he’d made with Bit-na, but then we flash back to earlier in the night. Bit-na had given Da-on the freedom to choose what kind of justice he wanted to give Tae-gyu. He could follow their original plan and kill him, at which point Bit-na would become his protector in hell — or he could arrest Tae-gyu, and Bit-na swore she would ensure he was punished harshly according to mortal laws, as So-young would have wanted.
Unsurprisingly, he spares Tae-gyu’s life, but we end this week’s episodes with concerns that Bit-na might betray Da-on. You see, just as she’s about to enter the courtroom and begin Tae-gyu’s trial, Bael pays Bit-na a surprise visit and issues an ultimatum: either she releases Tae-gyu and sends him to hell, or he drags her to hell and destroys her.
At this point, I think it’s safe to say she will defy Bael, whose motives grow increasingly suspect with each cameo. Even Satan, in the final moments of his battle with Bit-na, warned her to not trust the spider demon, and lest we forget, Bael ordered Paimon to kill her. However, it’s still to be determined whether or not the writers have given him a purpose. Is he our story’s final boss, or is he just a guy who pops in and out whenever the story needs to introduce a new obstacle to Bit-na and Da-on’s relationship?
Someone with equally mysterious motives is our drama’s lone angel, who is not above manipulating our characters in a very unangelic manner. Turns out, Gabriel straight up lied to Bit-na when he told her that he could no longer watch over and protect Da-on. Supposedly, it was a test — presumably for the greater good — to see how Bit-na would react, but once again I find myself questioning the portrayal of this singular character and what — if anything — the writers are trying to tell us about religion.
In my opinion, this drama’s original intention was to entertain — not provide social commentary, one way or the other, on religion. However, in the process of exploring themes of morality and justice through its oddball assortment of demon and human characters, The Judge from Hell feels like it accidentally made a wrong turn and somehow ended up taking a strong stance against religion when it (ironically) introduced its token angel to the plot.
Prior to Gabriel’s identity being revealed, the demons were both the good guys and the bad guys of our story, and the absence of angels didn’t feel like an oversight. The demons were simply taking care of demon business and collecting on a few hell-bound souls early, and there was no need for heavenly beings to interfere. However, Gabriel’s introduction and subsequent portrayal have since only highlighted the angel’s passiveness in a way that makes him less appealing than our proactive murderer-killing demon.
And this suggestion that our demon is perhaps more worthy of idolization than our absentee angel was never more apparent than in this week’s episodes. When Bit-na’s religious landlady collapses on the street, Bit-na carries her (and her Bible) home. Religious Landlady is distraught that her son’s killer has resurfaced, and she confesses to Bit-na — not a priest — that she failed to forgive the killer. Instead, wants to see her son’s murderer ripped apart, and because we know Bit-na can and will find justice on this woman’s behalf, we continue to root for our story’s demons instead of its angel.
I have every confidence that this drama is going to spin Gabriel’s passiveness as being part of some divine plan that includes Bit-na’s redemption and possible happy ending, which is why I believe this drama’s negative portrayal of religion is entirely unintentional. Plus, you know, Gabriel’s main identity has the face of one of dramaland’s favorite halmoni’s, so there’s no way the team behind this drama wanted us to dislike her or question our angel’s motives. Instead, they want us to trust the drama and our angel’s process. There’s just one problem: dramaland has taught us to be mistrustful — especially when we’re approaching the finale.
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Tags: Kim In-kwon, Kim Jae-hwa, Kim Jae-young, Kim Kwang-kyu, Kim Young-ok, Lee Kyu-han, Park Shin-hye, The Judge from Hell
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1 Aigoo-ka-choo
October 28, 2024 at 11:46 AM
Well there's nothing like getting to a party just as everyone's starting to leave :)😬
I only found out about a week ago that this drama was airing on a streamer (Hulu) and I could watch it! But thanks to the brilliant Beanies as always, and to @daebakgrits for the wonderful recaps, I am now all caught up, so I can participate in the final home stretch! Yay!
This week's eps were a wild ride - Park Shin-hye as Bit-na is the brilliant beating heart of this show for me.💖 I often see comments about male actors 'carrying' the drama (Jo Jung-suk in various roles, for instance) and PSH is bearing the load here, looking fabulous whilst doing it, and making it seem effortless. 🤛Her comedy chops are strong, her sass is at drag-queen levels, and her gradual emotional descent/ascent into empathy and compassion have delivered real pathos.
I know not everyone feels it, but I'm also invested in her romance with Do-an. The reverse shots of them just looking deeply at each other are face card magic 💕and I really enjoy the way they move between flirting/teasing and denial.
This week's 'I like...' what they've done with this wall, (I wasn't talking about you, just the wall)! is more gold. They are earning their way to a climactic kiss, and it had better be good! (no dead fish please)🙏
Let's hope the drama gods are more responsive than god in this show to prayers (!) 👀
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Aigoo-ka-choo
October 28, 2024 at 10:46 PM
I should add that I saw the latest eps via non US Disney...👀🤐
Question for my Beanie mentors - I presume the 'Streaming Dramas' listed under 'Currently Airing' are based on US streaming (since this site is US) - so Disney will only be listed if it's on US Disney?
But is there a reason that (US) Hulu is not listed? (even if it says, there is a 3 day delay, as with this one, for instance?)
Enquiring minds would like to know....
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DaebakGrits
October 29, 2024 at 6:38 AM
The Currently Airing list, including the Streaming Dramas section, is based on how/where the dramas are initially released in South Korea. In SK, The Judge from Hell first airs on SBS (a television channel similar to American networks like ABC or NBC), not a streaming service. Seoul Busters, however, is listed under Streaming Dramas because it airs in SK via the Disney+ streaming platform.
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Aigoo-ka-choo
October 29, 2024 at 5:01 PM
Thanks so much for clarifying @daebakgrits :)
DB is wonderful regardless !!👏💖
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2 Aigoo-ka-choo
October 28, 2024 at 11:50 AM
Some trivia for anyone who's interested...
You may have noticed the wine bottle (prolonged PPL shot) this week for 'Lacryma Christi'. The latin translates as 'Christ's tears' (literally, tear) and it derives from the myth that Christ shed tears over Lucifer's fall from heaven, which fell on the ground in Roman Italy and made it particularly fertile.
This is a real wine, made from grapes grown on Vesuvius (site of famous volcanic eruption) and apparently it is the closest wine comes to tasting like it did in Roman times (they have done chemical analyses on excavated amphoras- gotta love science😬).
Also Kylum - is one way of phonetically spelling Caelum - which is Latin for Heaven or God.
So the mythology may be all over the shop, but there are some fun easter eggs (easter pun intended!) 🤣
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Kafiyah Bello
October 28, 2024 at 1:47 PM
That is very interesting!!!
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Aigoo-ka-choo
October 28, 2024 at 6:39 PM
Appreciate the interest @kafiyah-bello (although if you were being sarcastic, I wouldn't blame you!)🤣
I should prob have also pointed out that this was in the Scene at Satan dad's house, when Bit-na was there for dinner. Satan serving this wine added an extra dimension to the symbolism...
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Kafiyah Bello
October 29, 2024 at 4:20 AM
I wasn't being sarcastic, that is why I put the exclamation points, I think it is cool because I didn't know. 😊
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3 Aigoo-ka-choo
October 28, 2024 at 12:00 PM
One last thing (because I haven't been able to post live until now - sorry, lots of repressed demon commentary bursting out!) 😈
Re the violence. I totally understand the divide in opinion, and there were times (usually just in the final stretch of punching/kicking leading to the stabbing) when I also did a quick 10 sec FF.
But one element that I didn't see anyone talk about was how what Bit-na/Justitia does to the murderers (i.e. doing to them exactly what they did to their victims) is always revealed as 'NOT REAL' - this is basically a form of Psychological torture. When she finally drags them out of the 'staged' scenes, they don't have any real injuries, and are often shocked to discover that.
She just made them feel it, but it wasn't really happening. (she creates this illusion of their punishment the way that Satan creates the illusion of desire). That inherently makes it a lot more interesting than basic physical violence. (The part I sometimes FF through is when it is real, just before she sends them off to hell).
Also, as someone who finds the endless exploitation (and sexualisation) of violence against women in TV/Film disturbing, and recognises the very real and depressing reality of men being (almost always) physically overpowering to women, I find her violence liberating in a truly fantastical way. She is visually a slight woman, but because of her demon powers, we KNOW that these mere men can't beat her, and it takes away so much of the anxiety in watching her fight scenes. I fully admit there is a wish-fulfillment to this part of the story that made me cheer her on in a way that I wouldn't in other circumstances.
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4 hacja
October 28, 2024 at 12:20 PM
@daebakgrits I had to laugh at your kdrama theology at the end. As noted kdrama enthusiast T.S. Eliot put it, “After such knowledge, what forgiveness? After such out of left field endings, what trust?”
During these episodes, as with previous ones, I myself was just ruefully shaking my head at my own weakness—what absurd, and absurdly gory plot developments I will put myself through to watch a beautiful and charismatic kdrama actress. At least I was right about who Satan was, but I give myself no credit for that bit of hermeneutics.
The only thing besides Park Shin Hye that’s keeping me until the end is genuine curiosity about how they will resolve the pseudo religious mythology they’ve constructed, although I’m sure it will be something really superficial, like Korea’s national grandma intervening just as Bael is about to kill Justitia and condemn everyone else to being dismembered by a serial killer--Kdrama's Aged Almighty thwarting its Eternal Evil.
Let me be clear, in dismissing this result as trivial, I have no trouble with the worshipping of Kim Young-ok, its just that I agree with Daebakgrits that they’ve really constrained her powers here, testing my faith in her omnipotence.
As for the “romance” its pretty hard to see any happy resolution that will fit both the fantasy rules and the attraction between Justitia and De-eon although I would still stick with my earlier belief that the human Kang Bit-na will return, and the show will end with the human Kang Bit-na agreeing to go out with Da-on, suggesting (but not confirming) a future romance. However, it could just as easily go the full Heartbeat sad ending, as has been predicted by Grandma Gabriel--the liaison of supernatural and human beings will always be semi-tragic, I guess is the lesson we can draw from any show that isn't My Man is Cupid.
As an adherent of Young-okianity, though, I know death is a part of kdrama life, so I will accept whatever comes, as Grandma's will.
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Dylan [Suffering from Judge from Hell brainrot]
October 28, 2024 at 12:42 PM
I'm not sure if a Human Bit-na and Daon maybe-ever-after could work tbh. Presumably, human Bit-na would not have the same connection with Daon, and vice versa, even if she gets Justitia-as-Bitna's memories.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
October 28, 2024 at 12:53 PM
I've heard Justitia threatened with a fate worse than death if she goes again demonity, but in view of all her high-fashion shopping I still think that comes in the form of credit card bills and perhaps an ethics investigation will she tries to do some mortal happy-ever-aftering with Da-on.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
October 28, 2024 at 1:25 PM
*against
*while she tries
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hacja
October 28, 2024 at 1:24 PM
For any logically constructed show, you'd be right, but I have faith that the ending episodes of this one will defy logic in some way or another!
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5 Lostpanda is celebrating My Ajusshi 💔
October 28, 2024 at 12:42 PM
I must refrain from reading this recap. Hulu USA is so slow that the ep 11-12 recap is up before it gets to air in the USA. Do better Hulu
👿👿👿
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6 anon
October 28, 2024 at 1:10 PM
Talking of police blindness, how was Kang Bitna not made to recuse herself from her ex-fiance and his brother's trials? The Judiciary couldn't get any more openly blind than the Justitia statue.
In the history Bael and Satan both betrayed Lucifer and then Satan scooted off so like how'd Bael return to the No. 2 Master of hell is sus. But really someone give Bael someone to love too, he's just crabby and jealous.
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7 Kafiyah Bello
October 28, 2024 at 1:51 PM
Nothing makes sense, ladidadido, lol, I can't wait to see how it ends.
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RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 12:15 AM
I sang it with you :D :D :D
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Kafiyah Bello
October 29, 2024 at 4:21 AM
😅😂😂😂, thanks.
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TwoCentsWorth
October 29, 2024 at 5:11 AM
Shall we start a chorus?
I've completely stopped caring about plot, world-building, any of that. I'm fast-forwarding a lot, and just enjoying the fun bits now.
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Kafiyah Bello
October 29, 2024 at 8:32 AM
Nods head😁
8 TT
October 28, 2024 at 2:12 PM
This is a personal opinion and goes against the current ranking and words by other commentators, but this drama - again for me - is just bad! Many scenes are eye-rolling, the love interest is fine, but this mix of killing and romance and demons instills snoozes for me.
I am starting to feel anything with a demon in the plot jus creates meh results. Like Demon Lover great visuals, but the actual plot ranges from silly to disturbing - so many serial killers in South Korea!! Who knew?
I hope everyone goes ahead and enjoys the show, but I am left puzzled as to the overall appeal. The good points are overwhelmed by the mehness.
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MalcolmPDX
November 1, 2024 at 1:29 AM
I agree! I really had high hopes for this show because of Park Shin-hye. And too her credit she does her best to carry this mess of a show. Seems this show spent all its money on CGI and skimped on the writing. Nothing makes sense so I guess anything makes sense.
They missed a real opportunity to allow Park Shin-hye to camp it up as the Demon trapped on earth in a humans body. But they spent half the show on violent revenge porn and a nonsensical story.
Of course it will all work out in the end for our leads. This story is not sophisticated enough to leave us pondering any moral truths with a ambiguous ending.
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9 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
October 28, 2024 at 3:14 PM
These two are definitely my least favorite episodes.
I'm probably the only one, but I never cared about the real plot of this show. Never cared about the fantasy or theology. Nothing makes sense but it's not like it ever did or I ever cared. I definitely wasn't enjoying this drama because of it's brilliant logic.
We all knew who the bad guys were from the start. We all could've guessed the story or wtv. What was fun for me was the case of the week and the
revengepunishment and Justitia being her unapologetic self.Did I want to see Justitia get saved by Da On? NO. Even if every single kdrama in the world's does that, why this one? I loved her for being stronger than any human there. She was a girl who could defend herself and protect her people. So why?
I guess this story with J&Satan can be seen technically as another case, but watching Justitia lose her powers (and get beat up by that man), be more sentimental than regular humans, plus, not give any real punishment to them, didn't work for me.
I think this drama should've ended this week if they just kept the same formula and pace than before. No idea why they dragged this but okay.
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RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 12:17 AM
I mean she basically lost and regained her power all within 3 minutes. I think that was the only plot they could think off to add that scene of DaOn breaking the door and saving her.
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10 RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 12:22 AM
I have never been a fan of PSH and my foray into dramas almost started with her - see Heirs (ahh!). She has been infamous for her fish kisses and constant crying/wailing scenes BUT I am actually liking her in this role. The badassary is working for me and she is killing those high kicks and the stunts. Am I watching the story? Not really. I have been only watching her and genuinely enjoying her as Justitia.
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jillian
October 29, 2024 at 1:32 PM
Same with PSH. I didnt like her in Heirs. I liked Kim Ji Won's Rachel better.
She is doing amazing here though. I sure hope she takes more roles similar to this than her previous Candy roles.
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RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 3:42 PM
I actually never liked her in anything and I never thought of her as a bad actress. Just the roles she would pick. Even though I did think she was fine in Doctor Slump.
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jillian
October 29, 2024 at 8:31 PM
I didnt last in watching any of her previous roles. Only Heirs I think but I eventually dropped that. Sisyphus - dropped after ep1. Skipped Alhambra. Tried watching Doctors and thought she was good in seeing in snippets of that show but didnt feel watching the drama. I skipped Doctor Slump since I had other dramas I liked better at the time. I didnt mean for this to be a long response. Point is I know what you mean. 😅 She isnt a bad actress per se. Her characters were just so so.
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RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 10:09 PM
hahaha! I understand and agree completely.
11 Kurama
October 29, 2024 at 1:19 AM
It's funny but everybody is praising Park Shin-hye for this role but I don't think she's great. I don't think she's bad neither but she's not scary at all. I don't think she has the dark charisma for this kind of role. So for me, it's really more a comedy than a fantasy drama because nothing in the plot makes sense. Like how a Judge, being the victim of the defendant can be the Judge of the trial?
For the love story, it looks more like love for a puppy or a kitten than a love relationship.
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RenOIshi
October 29, 2024 at 3:39 PM
I wouldn't call her scary. She looks more psychotic and crazy which I am digging. The judiciary stuff is pure fantasy. A murder trial never ends in a day. Agree with you on the romance.
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12 jillian
October 29, 2024 at 1:28 PM
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jillian
October 29, 2024 at 1:30 PM
I agree. I always watch the episodes back to back the story progressive was paced really well.
I honestly think Gabriel is taking a passive approach because he is testing the will of the person. He is testing both Daon and Bitna so they have a path for redemption. Especially for our judge. I think that Justitia will become a human and live her HEA with her man.
Just two more episodes to find out.
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13 ar_arguably romantic
October 29, 2024 at 6:37 PM
Still enjoying the heck out of this drama and am sad it will end soon. Park Shin-hye is propping the plot up with the sheer force of her charisma as Justitia. And she totally pulls off the purple demon eyes.
My random comments:
-I wonder if Justitia is still trapped in a fantasy. Satan was defeated way too easily.
-LOL with the wedding fantasy including her neighbors and coworkers being invited to the wedding. Justitia really is a softie, isn't she?
-There are like a gaggle of demons running around, but only 1 angel posing as an old lady? Where are the rest of the angels?
-The scene of So-young's death was too much. Should have been reduced to half.
-I'm glad Arong decided not to backstab Justitia like some creepy fan and is now like a normal fan
-The demon cleaners are adorable
-I'm glad Justitia left Da-on room for him to make his own choice and planned to support whichever choice he made
-I thought Tae-gyu was too young, but the actor's age (44) actually checks out as being a teen murderer 25 years ago.
-Hope we get to see Deadbeat bro just be Dead Bro by the end of the series. Yes, he was abused after Satan took over his dad's body, but he was still complicit in multiple murders. Someone ToD him, please.
-I'm glad the romance is sort of secondary so this drama is more romance-lite. Da-on is cute, but he's not cut out for the supernatural life or anything involving subterfuge (such a terrible liar). I'm mostly in it for Justitia kicking ass and for finding out what Bael's deal is.
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14 Mydemon_21
October 30, 2024 at 9:20 PM
This is genuinely the best supernatural Kdrama I have ever seen ❤️❤️❤️🌸🌸🌸 I LOVE EVERYTHING EVERY BIT OF IT.
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15 🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 31, 2024 at 9:32 AM
Thank you for the recap. 😈👩⚖️👮♂️🔥 Spot on, this is the time when most dramas tend to go a bit haywire. Thankfully we had a chock-full of "plot" and not useless meandering.
Yay!! So Daon getting stabbed was a fake-out after all. 😂 Perhaps that was the only way Ah-rong could save herself from Bitna. Nonetheless she gained a smidgen of my respect too. 😅 I loved how cocky Daon thought he was in being a better liar than he thought. 🙄 Poor befuddled fool. Tut, tut. Truly his colleagues gave him a free pass.
What a pretty hanbok Bitna!! All said and done she does make truly excellent fashion choices.
The hidden mystic floor behind the library books was quite interesting. The frozen human parts not so much and the zombie mom was downright extra.
At least Justitia loosing her powers for a wee second gave Daon a chance to play the knight in
rusty🌟 shining 🌟 armour. 🤺 The date was also sort of fun even though Daon apparently didn't get to do anything of his choosing. 😅Tbh I wasn't so keen on the Satan story. IMO the story lacked a bit of steam. But his ruses / beguiling fantasies were pretty telling. Anyways Park Ho-san's cameo was pretty cool. I liked how he caught Kylum just before it went through Hell's open portal. Justitia beguiling the OG beguiler was fun. While the fun element has been peterred off a bit, on the bright side there is only one week more. What could go wrong in two episodes right, right!? 🙈😂 Safe landings Team.👍🏻
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16 Seon-ha
November 2, 2024 at 6:39 AM
OHHHHHHH. Not forgiveness.
Repentance.
Duh.
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