Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 15-16 (Final)
by Unit
It’s time to bid farewell to our extraordinary attorney and reminisce on the journey we have gone through with her. It hasn’t been completely smooth sailing, but she has come a long way from when we first met her, and it has been really meaningful to watch her growth. It’s our heroine’s world – unusual, peculiar, valuable, and beautiful – and we’re all just living in it.
EPISODES 15-16 WEECAP
When a hacker gains access to the personal data of the customers of an online shopping mall, the mall gets hit with a fine from the Korea Communications Commission (KCC) for not properly protecting the data. The KCC pushes the case using a recent adjustment to the law – which unfortunately, was revised on the same day as the hacking. And with Myeong-seok recovering from surgery, (thank goodness!) the case is taken up by his work nemesis ATTORNEY JANG (Choi Dae-hoon).
Attorney Jang is a suck up and a show off, but he’s very strict with the junior lawyers – especially Young-woo, whom he shuts down on many occasions for, well, just saying Young-woo-like things. But it’s really vindicating for Young-woo when the judge says the exact same things in court to Attorney Jang. Lol. His approach to the case does nothing but draw ire from the general public, and things get worse when the customers approach Taesan to file a separate class-action suit against the shopping mall.
After some back and forth in court, the desperate founder of the mall swallows a cyanide pill and has to be rushed to the hospital. The incident takes a strain on Young-woo and she goes into another sensory overload, but Jun-ho stops himself from reaching out to her. Hmmm. And when the lawyers are accosted by the press as they leave the hospital, Attorney Jang abandons his juniors, and instructs Jun-ho to drive off. Wow!
Young-woo realizes that the phishing email was sent just a few minutes before midnight of the adjustment date, and she tells Attorney Jang, but he orders her off the case instead. Su-yeon tries to defend Young-woo, but she’s dragged out by Min-woo who is wary of offending the higher ups. Su-yeon then tells him that she likes men who are willing to play the fool for their colleagues, and stand up for what is right.
Young-woo and Jun-ho finally have the “why we broke up” talk, and she tells him although she likes him, she doesn’t think she can make him happy. Jun-ho says that just being with her makes him happy, but when Young-woo asks if he has never felt lonely at least once while with her, he doesn’t have an answer.
Young-woo not telling Jun-ho the reason, and not the breakup itself, was what annoyed me the most last week, because he’s not a mind-reader and there’s no way he would have known. But now that everything is in the open, the ball is in his court. He can either step aside, or push forward with the relationship knowing that there will be (a lot of) moments where Young-woo will inevitably make him feel lonely in the relationship. And it’s not for a lack of trying on her part, it is just what it is.
At the final hearing, Attorney Jang gets stuck with his closing argument, and Su-yeon jumps in to use Young-woo’s adjustment date point. Attorney Jang instructs her to stand down, but Min-woo also gets onboard with Su-yeon, causing the judge to take their point into consideration. With the tides now in their favor, a smug Attorney Jang basks in the glory of his juniors. But all I want to do is rest my knuckle on his head. Tsk.
News of the founder’s attempted suicide spreads online, and for the first time, we see the surprisingly young hacker behind the personal data breach. As he tries in vain to reach someone on the phone, his door is pushed open to reveal his mother who is none other than CEO Tae! What?! We’ve been hearing about her son who loves to stay indoors with his computer all day, but he’s no gamer as I thought — he’s a hacker? Good luck to CEO Tae getting that minister of justice position now.
CEO Tae’s son is high school freshman CHOI SANG-HYEON (Choi Hyun-jin). He’s a kimbap loving and organized boy much like his older half-sister, with a thing for Rubik’s cubes just like Young-woo and the whales. He confesses to the hacking, and CEO Tae scolds him for messing around, especially with her minister hearing right around the corner. Sang-hyeon asks if she has never made a mistake, and mentions that he knows about Young-woo. Whoa! He really hacked into his mum’s phone to confirm the illegitimate daughter rumors.
The hacking weighs on Sang-hyeon’s conscience, and since his mother won’t let him come clean, he visits the one person he thinks can help him – his big sister. It’s cute how he’s very matter-of-fact about their sibling relationship, and takes to calling Young-woo noona right off the bat. Sang-hyeon says that unlike some rich families who get their kids out of trouble, his mother scolds him whenever he does something wrong. But with her trying to get him out of trouble now, he doesn’t want them to end up like those rich families.
Sang-hyeon then reveals that he was instructed by the co-founder of the shopping mall to steal the customers’ data. Again, what?! Sang-hyeon and the co-founder met at a cybersecurity competition as contestant and judge, and have kept in touch since then. Upset that the founder favored making money over improving the cybersecurity of the mall, the co-founder wanted to use the hacking to teach him a lesson.
With Hanbada representing the mall and the hacking being an instruction from its co-founder, it’s social justice versus client’s interest all over again for Young-woo. As always, she goes to Myeong-seok for advice, and he says that while he usually puts the client’s interest first, she’s a different person than he is. Young-woo returns to Hanbada and plays a video confession recorded by Sang-hyeon to the team. Attorney Jang is the first to oppose the idea, but CEO Han is more than willing to use the video.
CEO Han calls the reporter to hold off on the CEO Tae/Young-woo story in the light of this juicer development. She had previously informed Young-woo’s dad of her plan to leak the news, and told him to go on a paid vacation with Young-woo. And lest we forget, there’s also CEO Tae’s U.S. offer. Tsk. What’s with these rival CEOs and trying to send Young-woo away?
Hanbada free themselves of attorney-client privilege since their client is the mall, not its co-founder. Also, since Sang-hyeon encrypted the data for fear that the co-founder might sell it, technically, a data breach hasn’t occurred yet. But the judge in the class-action suit doesn’t accept the video testimony and CEO Tae prepares to ship Sang-hyeon abroad to prevent him from testifying in person. CEO Han then decides to leak the video, but Young-woo pleads for some time to convince CEO Tae first.
On his way to drop Young-woo off at CEO Tae’s, Jun-ho tells Young-woo that he doesn’t want to break up, and likens his love for her to the unrequited love towards a cat. Sir? Cats sometimes make their owners lonely, but they make them just as happy. Young-woo then tells Jun-ho that his analogy is inappropriate because cats love their owners too. I can’t even deal with this cat thingy, but it gets our whale couple back together, so, yaay!! (By the way, when Young-woo was crossing the road, was anyone else silently urging her to run a little faster? The Truck of Doom PTSD is real, y’all.)
On meeting CEO Tae, Young-woo says that Sang-hyeon looks up to his mother because she doesn’t hesitate to correct him when he is wrong and that sending him away now will make him lose faith in her. It’s an emotional moment when Young-woo tells CEO Tae that although she wasn’t a good mum to her, CEO Tae can be a better mum to Sang-hyeon. Okay, who is cutting onions?
CEO Tae eventually relents, and allows Sang-hyeon’s testimony on the condition that Young-woo be the one to question him. Attorney Jang doesn’t think Hanbada will accept such conditions, but CEO Han agrees to it. Heh. In your face, Doubting Thomas! Sang-hyeon finally gives his testimony in court, and formally apologizes to the founder and the customers of the mall.
The case gets dismissed and CEO Tae steps down as a candidate for minister of justice. With this, CEO Han decides to let CEO Tae off for now, and Young-woo’s birth secret stays safe. Phew! The Hanbada squad go for a celebratory dinner, and they’re joined by Myeong-seok and his ex-wife who are on the way to patching things up. Nice! But I still haven’t completely patched things up with Min-woo — although he has now decided to be a team player rather than the competition.
Still undecided about the exact emotion she feels after getting her contract renewed and becoming a permanent lawyer at Hanbada, Young-woo skips to work like she did on her first day, and even successfully goes through the revolving door by herself! She has really come full circle, hasn’t she? As Young-woo smiles at Jun-ho, it finally hits her that the emotion she has been feeling is a sense of fulfillment, and her smile deepens. And on this note, we come to the end of our extraordinary drama! *bursts out the firecrackers*
One major thing I love about this drama is Myeong-seok’s mentor relationship with his rookies. He’s patient, gives good advice, leads them without forcing his opinions on them, AND he will never throw them under the bus to save himself. And if we don’t appreciate him enough, spending this week with Attorney Jang just re-emphasizes how much of a good boss Myeong-seok is. It’s great that he’s considering quitting Hanbada, and I know that his juniors will be fine if he leaves.
I was really worried that we were going to end with a cliffhanger, but we got a happy ending after all. A mini sore thumb for me, though, is that we still don’t know the origin of the rivalry between CEO Han and CEO Tae. And no, as far as I’m concerned, those deleted scenes floating on the internet don’t count because they were excluded from the drama. But hey, maybe they’ll let us in on its origin in the rumored season two that nobody asked for. Heh.
Park Eun-bin was really phenomenal in her role as Young-woo, and the rest of the cast were equally amazing. It would have been nicer to explore Jun-ho beyond being just a love interest, but I didn’t really mind it because I don’t think I can like him anymore than I already do. Besides, they might have gone off the rails if we really dipped into his backstory. Lol.
Overall, the drama isn’t without its flaws, but I appreciate the story it tried to tell, and it definitely has a high rewatch value for me. Every once in a while, we get gems like this, and I’m glad to have been a part of the Extraordinary Attorney Woo experience.
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Tags: Baek Ji-won, Extraordinary Attorney Woo, Jeon Bae-soo, Jin Kyung, Kang Ki-young, Kang Tae-oh, Park Eun-bin
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1 Kafiyah Bello
August 19, 2022 at 4:23 PM
They almost stuck the landing. The good parts were the cat comparison(hilarious) and the little brother introduction. The return of the romance was meh. I wish they had given Jun Ho more though. Min Woo's about turn was weird. The rest was just fine.
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PYC
August 19, 2022 at 5:27 PM
The little brother was introduced very early on when the mom first appeared in the drama, commenting the son spending too much time on computer.
It gives insight into how the writer has the story frame well set up from the beginning.
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emsel
August 19, 2022 at 9:35 PM
Yes, which is why the production should have given the writer/director a heads up that they would like another season if the ratings rose because Minwoo's arc gave a tonal whiplash. I don't hate Minwoo because there are many people like him in real life and the drama did not gloss over that fact, but I would have liked his character to take small steps instead of a drastic change. The drama's intention was to send the message "Love changes people", but it came across as if it is a woman's responsibility to change a man through love🙄🙄🙄
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parkchuna 🍉
August 20, 2022 at 1:39 AM
Paroma perfectly lays out the problem with Min Woo:
https://twitter.com/festerfaster/status/1560691889619230720?s=21&t=JrFvVZfc39YcBIwLuNk21g
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Kafiyah Bello
August 20, 2022 at 3:07 AM
Great writeup!!! very accurate.
Lalla32
August 21, 2022 at 2:59 AM
Thank you! Very well put.
2 Erica
August 19, 2022 at 4:25 PM
Hurrah for EAW.
From Zero (0.39%) to 17.5!
Park Eun Bin - Baeksang nomination in the bag. Most supporting cast were amazing. The first and last cases were the best for me!
“it would’ve been nicer to explore Junho beyond being just a love interests…”. Ditto. I’ve never seen a more thinly written, one dimensional OTP character, but that’s just me. Fortunately, EAW is way more than a love story.
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ilovecoffee&rain
August 19, 2022 at 9:45 PM
Maybe it was because the romance was a secondary plot point which was not necessary to divulge too much into. The primary and the main plot was the journey of Yoo young woo's self-fulfillment as a lawyer in the world where everything was against her. I feel like if the romance was explored more then the primary plot would have become unnecessary messed up.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 20, 2022 at 9:21 AM
Agreed. I would rank Junho's character's importance sort of the same level as Choi Su-yeon and Dong Geu-rami. Just someone who is really there for Young-woo and cherishes her as she navigates through life.
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ilovecoffee&rain
August 20, 2022 at 9:44 AM
Well put. Woo Young Woo was the one and only protagonist. Which I absolutely LOVED and very much impressed with. Jun Ho, Su-yeon, Geu-rami and even her father were there as people who support her. All of them were secondary characters. In a drama, making a woman with a complex disability shine without rendering her as pitiful, is a historic feat in itself. Which is why this will become one of the memorable drama ever made.
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3 miso
August 19, 2022 at 4:31 PM
Other than Min-woo, I was fine with pretty much everything else in the drama. Jun-ho should have had more to do but we've sailed through many a drama where the FL was similarly opaque. It was a nice wrap and I'd be happy with or without a Season 2.
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stargazer
August 19, 2022 at 6:39 PM
I feel the same way too. Overall it was a great show that sticks to what it was all about, Extraordinary Attorney Woo. Im sad to say goodbye to WYW. I will miss her Whale talk. Also her Whale-ureka moments. 🐳
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4 Fan from Nigeria
August 19, 2022 at 4:31 PM
Finally, it's up🥳.....
First of all @unit, it has been an awesome 8 weeks of you been our weecaptain (stole that word from your recap), thank you for the recaps because I almost have up on watching two weeks back but your recaps made me curious enough to continue.side note : I think I want the season 2, I mean the writer has so much potential in the makjang department.... imagine the dramas she would spin for us 😊
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Fan from Nigeria
August 19, 2022 at 4:49 PM
*gave
I think I should start a one woman protest for the edit button 😢
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Emperor Titus
August 19, 2022 at 7:21 PM
I join you, @wemimo. I am not woman though.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
August 19, 2022 at 7:35 PM
It’s not a one woman protest turn around and you will see a million beanies behind you. It’s like there’s a secret fan club (Yumi’s cells) for the edit button except it’s not so secret as every now and again there is a comment lamenting it’s non existent status or a deleted comment box appears where the beanie was too ashamed to leave the error on show and preferred to leave an aura of mystery instead.
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geminirat
August 19, 2022 at 10:51 PM
agree with the season 2 comment, but i hope they change the cameraman who shot a part of the ep 15 where young-woo was talking with atty. jang. the camera was shaking so much i thought there was another earthquake!
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Will H.
August 24, 2022 at 1:34 PM
That likely was done on purpose as in other scenes where the shaking camera was used (2 of the CEO scenes- when WYW confront mother first time and when Han is speaking with reporter in her office.) where there was significant emotion involved.
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5 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 4:32 PM
I’m gonna bite the bullet and continue to be controversial. As is my second nature at this point. Or actually probably first nature.
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I actually thought that the way the resolved the break up between Junho and WYW only made me SURER that the break up wasn’t at all necessary and their communication issues did not have to happen the way they did.
I felt that there was no great challenge or moment overcome in how Junho asked for clarification or in how WYW answered that necessitated it happened AFTER what happened in 14, and after a break up, and felt that that conversation in front of her house could’ve itself happened in 14.
In fact, as I felt last week, I feel like their entire relationship from post anxiety hug, but really post kiss in episode 10, should’ve taken a different direction, because I felt that our Whale Couple as a result of all this somehow weirdly didn’t progress or end up that much farther from where they were at in episode 10, which is the very start of their entire romantic relationship.
A different scenario rather than Junho’s sister’s comments could’ve triggered WYW’s anxieties about Junho’s happiness and loneliness in the relationship. Consequently, a different scenario could’ve brought about the conversation where WYW explains herself, and Junho thus has the opportunity to respond.
As a matter of fact, I think this topic should’ve come up DIRECTLY AFTER Episode 10, as a lead on from their conversation prior to the kiss, and should’ve therefore been resolved during 11, 12 and 13, thus leaving our couple at a stronger point for the finale, than they started out, which would’ve made more sense and been more satisfying narratively.
I thus still, and quite adamantly, stand by the fact that it did NOT have to be a break up that induced this, and that there are other ways to write about these subject matters, for both ASD characters and non-alike.
Especially because the break up and make up was just so Very Kdrama. It felt like every other kdrama break up and make up in execution and resolution and nothing felt particularly necessary for it to happen the way it did just because WYW has ASD.
Indeed, I think it is limiting of the subject matter [ASD] to submit to the trope in this manner.
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Nal
August 19, 2022 at 4:53 PM
I totally get your point.
A break-up is usually a big deal in relationships but seeing how it was "easily" resolved, a little couple's "argument" could have actually been enough to drive this plot point.
But then again is it really a Kdrama if they don't force feed us an episode 13/14 break up? 😅
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 5:06 PM
Kdramas often, yes, fall prey to their own habits and long standing traditional traits, but that doesn’t mean they HAVE to, nor that I can't keep wishing they wouldn't, even if that may seem like expecting too much of them lol.
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pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:38 PM
the fact that we ended up the drama without junho meeting youngwoo's father is crazy to me. I was sure junho would meet him when he went to youngwoo's home. and then her dad would talk about their phonecall and THAT would be the factor that would make junho go after her again. not her determination to persuade her mom on that case (like what?? lol). the fact they never met is crazy considering how close youngwoo is to her dad and the fact that he knows how important junho is to his kid. what a wasted opportunity and it would have been so much more emotional than what we got.
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DancingEmma
August 19, 2022 at 5:40 PM
I am saying this affectionately but it might be your ‘first’ nature! (Distorting this adage to make this point).😊
Regardless, you make a cogent point.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 7:13 PM
I suspect it might be also. In fact I have (more than) suspected so for quite some time 🤭🤭
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
August 19, 2022 at 7:49 PM
@sicarius Thanks for saying this @dncingemma. I was going to say it definitely is first nature and it is a strength not a fault that you see things differently and more importantly say it. Often what seems controversial may be what others think but are either afraid to say or don’t know how to articulate it like in the story of The emperor’s new clothes when a child innocently says what the others could blatantly see was true.
You have a way of explaining things that either allows those who don’t see it your way to see why it may not be so controversial and means those that agree can say ‘yeah, what she said’.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 8:32 PM
Lol, aw thank you!!!! It is no secret I like to be controversial (I was making a joke at my own expense a bit there), but there does, alas, remain a fine line between wanting to say something and knowing when to say it and how to share it, and over-committing to internet diskorse that I don't energy for.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
August 19, 2022 at 8:39 PM
I think the comments sections are way more interesting when these nuances are brought out but I also agree it the how rather than the what that makes the difference and sometimes there is an undercurrent that says it’s time to walk away.
Stuart McNaughton
August 19, 2022 at 5:48 PM
As someone that lives with people on the ASD spectrum I thought that such doubts were extremely realistic, and there was a lot of foreshadowing throughout the drama that the relationship would be a rough road for Jun ho. It was also very in character that WYW would not be especially adroit in communicating her reasons.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 6:51 PM
I will reiterate- I do not find the existence of the doubts nor bringing up the issue, nor even that WYW would not be adroit in communicating her reasons unrealistic, merely that a break up is not necessary to address any of that in the show.
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Emperor Titus
August 19, 2022 at 11:03 PM
"Young-woo not telling Jun-ho the reason, and not the breakup itself, was what annoyed me the most last week."
This one is for you, @unit: You can go feel annoyed about it, but Youngwoo can't properly utter her reason why she break up with Junho is natural, and it is a must for this drama.
"Especially because the break up and make up was just so Very Kdrama. It felt like every other kdrama break up and make up in execution and resolution and nothing felt particularly necessary for it to happen the way it did just because WYW has ASD."
Also let me shout this thing out, @sicarius: The Whale CP's break up is absolutely NECESSARY, and it must be so.
CDC's definition on ASD: People with ASD often have problems with social communication and interaction, and restricted or repetitive behaviors or interests. People with ASD may also have different ways of learning, moving, or paying attention.
For someone who has problem to communication and interaction, how can they properly telling you why they want to break up with you? In that break up scene in Episode 14, Youngwoo suddenly being distracted halfway saying "I want to break up with you." Therefore she didn't say it until Junho askes her again. You can annoy as you like, but I think it is very natural. Same thing happen when Youngwoo pursuades Sumi she has to let her son testify: obviously the testifying is more important, but Sumi mentions Youngwoo's America decision first, so she goes there first, and she has to talk about narwhal first before she utter her reason. She is so easily distracted (although not all the time), and you are complaining about she doesn't tell the reason first?
And @sicarius, it is "so Very Kdrama", and so very boring, so it is "nothing felt particularly necessary"? I do agree with you on some dramas (for example, Encounter, or some call it Boyfrienddue to the original Korean title), but for this very drama, it IS necessary. Junho-Youngwoo's relationship before the breakup is way too rosy (That's why some South Korean netizens are complaining), but the conflict is surely there. Junho didn't say it out loud, but in Episode 12 he surely is complaining: What you are doing during dating is boring for me--I don't understand whales' plight in Ocean Park, I don't like picking up garbage beside Han River, and I feel defeated because you always win in the only video game you have interest to play. He didn't say it out loud because he love her for the time being, but who knows one day he will become Suyeon, who feel annoyed because of everything she does! He need a paradigm shift on understanding this relationship, and something threatening their relationship can initiate that (Same reason Myeongseok...
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 20, 2022 at 1:32 AM
... nah. Lol.
I'm not complaining she didn't tell the reason first.
I am also not saying remove the conflict entirely like some people seem to think I am.
Well, if the communication and insecurities issue doesn't manifest itself as breaking up in the first place, maybe because you chose to write more development of their relationship and communication issues prior to that point and give both characters challenges within the relationship that's answer isn't just automatically "breakup", and scenarios where WYW's ASD is at the forefront and discussed more by both the show and the characters,
and so you give WYW's insecurities a chance to be resolved using different narrative tools and in multiple different ways over multiple scenarios and multiple episodes, ones that place emphasis on communication conflict being settled step by step, in a progressive development, instead of a build up of conflict, maybe then you could...
I can personally see a way in which they could write a. an accurate portrayal of ASD communication, b. the conflict about her doubts and c. develop Junho's way of understanding this relationship, all without breaking up.
I think it is limiting of the capabilities of storytelling to say otherwise.
And I don't think I'm wrong for thinking that's possible even within an ASD relationship. Are they going to be in a relationship their whole lives? Junho seems pretty committed; let's assume they're going to aim for long term. They can't break up every time there's an issue. They, just like other couples, need to be given ways to resolve conflict or work around them, within their relationship that can last them long term. That will look different for them because of the nature of their conflict, but it is no less true otherwise.
Why can't or shouldn't a show explore their relationship from THAT angle instead????
Why deny them the maturity of showing how conflict can be resolved without breaking up and the progressive development of communication in a committed relationship over time just because she has ASD? In fact wouldn't it say MORE to allow them that because she has ASD????
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Jingbee
August 20, 2022 at 2:58 AM
Well, break-up or not, the fact that Junho must realize that he cannot wait for WYW to communicate first is a lesson he (and the audience) must learn. Maybe there is indeed another way , but that would probably be at least several episodes, maybe a year's worth. There will be more misunderstanding like that one, there will be frustration (mostly on Junho's side) because WYW will be oblivious or will only realize after a delay. I am not a cat owner but the comparison may be close enough. In this relationship, Junho has to always be the one to fill the communication gap, because WYW and autistic people simply has this fundamental problem. I also lament that people had instead zeroed in on the break up trope, and even the recapper got annoyed by the communication gap, forgetting that it is not a plot device but a reality for autistic people.
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cho helen
August 20, 2022 at 3:06 AM
as an ASD person, I can also say this: The more emotional the content is, the more time it takes to process so often times I have a delayed emotional reaction. it can be days. but for a large betrayal (like your close friend trying to undermine you) it can take years to process before you feel outrage--ie. connect the emotion to the action. Meanwhile, you just bookmark what happened as generic 'that's kind of disturbing'.
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Jingbee
August 20, 2022 at 3:25 AM
Thank you for saying this and opening up. I hope that by your explanation people will stop blaming WYW for the lack of instant communication, and for saying that the communication gap between her and junho was unnecessary.
Lalla32
August 21, 2022 at 3:26 AM
Mmmm... I'm not sure about the break up either. I understand that YW has problems undesrtanding other's feelings and also her own. Still this time it was very clear to her why she was breaking up. She was saying it to others before explaining it to Junho. And I know that the romance wasn't central to the story so maybe they didn't have enough space to proper address this, but they had shown in previous episodes that talking and reasoning had helped YW undestand things. So why not properly deal with the situation? Junho lonliness was the real issue here. It is an issue, no matter how much in love he is. And a love relationship has little to do with a realtion between a cat and owner. Maybe the analogy can be cute, but YW IS NOT A CAT!
So... I didn't like how the breakup happened and I didn't particularly liked the way they resolved it. I totally agree with Sicarius saying that their relationship didn't evolve at all in the second half of the drama. Still, to be truthful, even if they were super cute, the whole thing was handled not perfectly from the start.
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Emperor Titus
August 22, 2022 at 9:55 AM
The love line in this drama is not the centre of the story, but essential to tell Youngwoo's character, her growth (Screenwriter did said the love line is for "telling her progress to let someone else to enter her world, as well learning to enter other's world, which for her, most of the timeshe just like to stay in her own). Therefore the love line may not be romantic, but it MUST be realistic.
This leads to my complaint for those who argue that the breakup "is not necessary". If you want a sweet sweet love line, you can go see other dramas (Our Beloved Summer is my favorite for this year). I have stated the CDC definition for ASD as "People with ASD often have problems with social communication and interaction," as well Youngwoo did mentioned everything about emotion she is not very sensitive as well has to remember with a hard time. For those who question Youngwoo's communication skill in this breakup is like asking her ASD suddenly being healed in Episode 15, running to Junho and tell him her concern, and asked not to breakup.
I am not mentally challenged or having ASD, but I can feel those comments are like almost offensive: you are asking the impossible!
KDramas' ending can be very bad, partly because screenwriters have to fit into audience request of "must be happy ending", "don't breakup" (just take a look at the public opinion against 25, 21, you know what I mean), stuffs like those. As a screenwriter, other than making sure the story is logical, I think their most important job is to utter the message for audience to think, not to give the audience a false happy ending. For that, I believe this screenwriter has done her job well, and it is time for the audience shop asking to be spoiled, and stop offending people who simply can't do what you are asking to do!
Emperor Titus
August 20, 2022 at 9:19 AM
The website once again can't tell me that the comment is up already (and my second try doesn't show up yet, which both tried yesterday evening Toronto time), so I don't know if it is successfully post the whole thing. So, before I answer everyone about my point, let me finish my thesis first (also to @sicarius: you probably realize I am replying 2 comments, from you and @unit, separately, yet related. That's why I distinguish the thing I want to address at the beginning, using quotes to distinguish what you and she say).
... (Same reason Myeongseok has Stage 3 Stomach Cancer, which is a threat to his life, but not danger to certainly take his life).
@unit, you said, "I can’t even deal with this cat thingy", I in fact don’t feel the same way because I watch the show with Traditional Chinese subtitle on Netflix, and the translation is way better then the English (which simply call them "owners"). The Chinese uses the term "貓奴", which literally means Cat's slaves. They work like slaves and do all the dirty works for the love of cats, and they sometimes don't even feel those cats love them back. (I don't know if I heard it right, but according to this Chinese blogger, the Korean is "고양이의 하인", which means "cat's servant", so Chinese is in fact more accurate). Kang Taeoh did say in an interview that he told the director he interprets Junho’s love with Youngwoo as the relationship between cat’s servants/slaves and their cats, and this is the very reason the director chooses him to play Junho.
This is also the paradigm shift of Junho on understanding the relationship. The relationship won't be successful until he understands this nature, i.e., Youngwoo can be very detach, sometimes even doubting herself, and doing strange thing (like, breaking up). If you don’t know all these language thing, certainly you won’t know why they have to break up. This is why I say: The break up IS necessary, and Youngwoo may not tell you right away about why she do such things, so Junho need to think several step ahead.
@sicarius and @unit, no offence, but I have to be frank: before you voice out your frustration, can you at least do some research about ASD? Above @cho helen's comment is helpful, too, and she accurately describe the reasons behind their breakup, as well why this is occurred.
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Emperor Titus
August 20, 2022 at 9:37 AM
A little note about "고양이의 하인", "貓奴" or "Cat's Slave": this is a term meant to be humourous, and meant for cat owners for self-deprecating. In Taiwan, there is even a comic talking about one of the most famous "Cat's Slaves", who is none other but Tsai Ing-wen, as of now the President of the island.
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Tizzy
August 20, 2022 at 4:02 PM
I’m a cat owner and the analogy is so on point. I love my cat to bits but he seems oblivious of my love. But whenever he crawls and sleeps on top of me, it’s all worth it.
I understand where she’s coming from with the breakup because WTW and Dad talked about how lonely he gets. Perhaps she just needed time to process her feelings.
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Zn
August 21, 2022 at 10:41 PM
Kudos to the Chinese translation. I watched with Chinese subtitles on Netflix too primarily and only when complicated and fast spoken legal terms come on screen do I switch to English subtitles. The Chinese translation is this case is right on point and I understood it right away and was in fact very impressed by the analogy. Talk about how to resolve a plot point within limited time. The script writer knows how to tell a story!
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Emperor Titus
August 20, 2022 at 8:30 PM
One more thing I should add, this one is more for @sicarius.
I lay out the break up is essential to force Junho to have a paradigm shift to his view of their relationship (The cat's slave analogy is the result). Certainly that doesn't mean Youngwoo doesn't need to change. The catalyst for her is her half brother Sanghyeon. Comparing her motivation of breaking up with Junho and quitting her job in Hanbada (Episode 3-4), the reason is pretty obvious (so don't say that you don't know, @unit, you just need to look closer to realize that). In both cases, she believe she is the one who need to be taken care, and she will become a burden of others. "Even when I'm working as Attorney Woo Youngwoo, it feels as if I'm autistic Woo Youngwoo," she tells Junho in the end of Episode 4. I'm not sure if I'm someone who can make you happy. I think I'm just someone you have to take care of," she told Junho in Episode 15.
Don't you see the parallel? She is basically using the same reason to reject a chance (a job or a lover).
Sanghyeon, on the other hand, is the first person she need to take responsible, and need her care. When the table has turned, she finds that she is someone can be rely on, and her confidence is back. Therefore when Junho initiate that keyword ("I'll stand with you" in Episode 3, and the "Cat's slave" in Episode 16, she will be back. Junho is the more passive side of the relationship, and he need to change as well to be more active to make the relationship work. All these lesson must be learned in this breakup, so you still think this breakup is "not necessary"?
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Aidualc
August 20, 2022 at 12:35 AM
I don't think this particular opinion of yours is all that controversial. That might be because I agree with you. The way in which they resolved the break up reiterated that one wasn't all that necessary in the first place or at the very least they could have had that talk sooner rather than drag it out to episode 16. That time could have been spent exploring and overcoming other challanges they are bound to face, thus progressing in the relationship. Instead, like you said, they are sort of close to where they started. I don't know when the show finished filming, but I do wonder if this was the plan all along or they changed some things because of that season 2 possibility.
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bam 🐢🐌💖~
August 20, 2022 at 1:39 AM
take it from someone who just went through a Kdrama-esque break-up and resolution:
it’s hardly necessary. communication, understanding of each others’ steadfast commitment, and getting your head out of the angst can do wonders. 😂
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6 Nal
August 19, 2022 at 4:40 PM
I spent a good part of these episodes wishing the truck of doom will give Attorney Jang a little scare (not kill him 😅) and it really made me appreciate our Atty Jung 😍.
I did like the little we saw of WYW's brother and kind of wish he had been introduced earlier but that might have just added another plot line they won't have been able to wrap up properly.
I found the reconciliation between our OTP so random 😂. I kept saying wrong place, wrong time and thinking that she would have missed the opportunity to see her mom if this was real life but we will allow it for plot purposes I guess.
Our spring sunshine significantly changed Min-woo?? Wow... The power of love💀
As for the Tae Su mi Hanbada beef, I guess we will have to wait. I didn't even know there were deleted scenes going around 😅.
I was scared that they would end with a cliffhanger after the season 2 announcement but this was nice. We could have done without a second season but I definitely won't mind being reunited with our Hanbada crew after KTO's military service.
The whole cast was amazing and Park Eun-Bin's performance was stellar. I really hope she gets all the love and recognition she deserves.
This drama is definitely making it to the list of favourites for this year.
Thank you @unit for the weecaps 😊
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PYC
August 19, 2022 at 5:41 PM
I found it quite unusual the network released two deleted scenes - both quite significant but probably didn’t survive the editing board due to time constraints. But obviously they think it important to share with viewers.
The first was the chance encounter between the two law firm CEOs. I honestly think this scene should have been included in the drama. It happened after the rich client switched to Taesin after the wedding dress case. CEO Han was naturally seething and walked up to CEO Tae when seeing her in a hotel. It was there we learnt Tae stole Han’s man (which sounds like her current rich husband, not Woo’s father). Lifelong grudge as you can imagine.
The second deleted scene is Woo opening Jun-ho’s present that delighted her after learning the big lesson from the ATM case.
Both scenes are available at YT from the Astory channel, I think.
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Nal
August 20, 2022 at 3:36 AM
Thank you 😀
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Will H.
August 24, 2022 at 1:43 PM
My take on the release of those tow scenes was to "drum up business", to get people talking and excited. It was great PR and worked to generate commentary and excitement. A great PR team move!
The Han TA Mu scene was especially made for PR; note the color of their dresses, etc. lots of "high" drama!
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7 Fan from Nigeria
August 19, 2022 at 4:40 PM
Now what do I love..... almost everything?? ......I mean apart from the taciturn turning a new leaf 2 episodes to the end and Jun ho being a handbag all through the season.
This drama made me.... reflect, I mean I did not enjoy all the episodes but the episodes that I enjoyed will stay with me a long time....EP 15 especially put the fear of God in me about not using work laptops to open all sort of flies
Even taciturn Kwon..... even though I will forever hate his character taught me, we aren't all black and white....we all have shades of grey.....so thanks EAW....thank you park eun bin.....I didn't think I could love you more than I already did.....thanks hand bag Jun ho.....because you showed us, a girl should always love a green flag guy and to myeong seok....... I think we all need a boss who sees the weird and still takes it in strides( I know it's wishful thinking but dramagods....lead role for JKJ please).....I will be back in the morning to wax poetry about the awesomeness of the last episodes .
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8 Unaspirated
August 19, 2022 at 4:43 PM
I think this final week was reasonable, given last week. I do wish they had left more time at the end for a more complete conclusion (maybe they didn’t bother because of the season 2 possibility?). We know that WYW gets a permanent job, but I’m curious about how the other rookies fared also, and whether Myeong-seok stayed at Hanbada (as was hinted at) and fell into the same bad habits, or if he was able to find more balance in his life.
I was not super satisfied with the romantic wrap-ups. I wish that Junho and Young-woo had had a more extensive conversation that didn’t involve comparing her to a housepet. And I really wanted them to find things that they could both enjoy instead of having to rely on the fact that they like each other as people as their only source of contentment when on dates. Which is not to say that their wide smiles at the end were any less gorgeous.
Min-woo’s storyline could have been so much better (in my opinion, obviously) if they had changed just a couple of things. He should have shown interest in Sunshine slightly earlier and more consistently (can be subtle – dramas love lingering gazes) for that part to be a little less sudden. I would have had him continue to be a jerk to Young-woo in the way he was in the ATM technology case – not sharing info with her, assigning her things he knows she won’t be good at, etc. But I would totally eliminate the part where he goes to Tae Su-mi and makes the deal to get Young-woo to quit and the whole bit where he sends the documents to the opposing lawyer. It’s too dramatic and throws off the whole tone. I would also have introduced his motivation earlier. If you want me to believe he is not just a competitive jerk for the sake of it, I’m going to need his rationale earlier in the show. This drama didn’t give us much background on any of our side characters, which I think is totally fine, but knowing his reasons for needing this job would have gone a long way to helping me develop empathy for him. And finally I would have liked to see him start to change before he realized Sunshine was potentially interested in him. Sunshine could have caught him doing something cruddy to Young-woo and reprimanded him, and that could have been the thing that made him think harder about how he was acting. Then we could have had scenes of him trying to be nicer, or at least more collaborative, but sort of failing at it, and it still could have culminated in their confrontation about him being too politically minded and her wanting him to be more foolish sometimes. The drama did a good job of making me want to cheer for him in the end, but it was hard given his history and short redemption arc.
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Unaspirated
August 19, 2022 at 4:52 PM
This is not to say I didn't enjoy myself watching this drama - I definitely did! I was super entertained, and the emotional moments hit me like the were supposed to, and Myeong-seok is just my favorite thing ever. I just wish the last four episodes could have lived up to the promise of the first 12.
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pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:33 PM
minwoo should have AT LEAST apologized to youngwoo. him trying to fist bump her in the court is not the same thing, writer. youngwoo knows he tried to sabotage her. the way this was never brought up again is crazy lol
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jerrykuvira
August 19, 2022 at 10:12 PM
I was like : 😒😒😒 what are you trying to do Min-woo? What's with the fist bump? Where from? Where to? I don't even know if she returned the bump.( All this was said with my plastered holy pissed smug face)
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sakuradaydream
August 21, 2022 at 5:27 PM
spitting straight facts right here!
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9 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 19, 2022 at 4:49 PM
(Also, there's no frakking way Junho would leave WYW to a mob of reporters, break up and jerk-nim Lead Attorney or no. He wouldn't even have done that before they confessed or were dating. Come on.)
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Unaspirated
August 19, 2022 at 4:53 PM
There's no way he would have left any of them! But yes, knowing how overwhelming that must have been for her, it's just absolutely wild that they had him do that. Totally agree.
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Nal
August 19, 2022 at 4:59 PM
I had a mini brain freeze when I watched this scene and the court scene when she has an episode ... It still doesn't make sense
I saw/read people saying that he would have been fired if he had not obeyed Attorney Jang and that he did not hug/calm her because he saw that she was in control.... But, but it was so out of character
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jerrykuvira
August 19, 2022 at 10:14 PM
The situation with the courtroom is actually in character. But the mob reporters scene, I found it so out of character.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 20, 2022 at 9:39 AM
He could have been like "hey reporters! Catch me if you can! I have the lead attorney in the van and he has all the details!" and lure the reporters away. I was a little bummed to not see a scene of Su-yeon, Minwoo, and Young-woo give him the cold shoulder for a bit for leaving them behind.
Him not hugging her was a little off. On the one hand, I get they're in a courtroom setting, but the drama also made it seem like just because they're not dating, he can't be in the position to help her?
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Nal
August 20, 2022 at 9:43 AM
"On the one hand, I get they're in a courtroom setting, but the drama also made it seem like just because they're not dating, he can't be in the position to help her?"
This was exactly how I saw it. It looked like he was maintaining a safe distance because they had broken up
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pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:30 PM
that was so out of character. he would attend anyone in that situation, not just youngwoo. he's that person, that's the junho the drama created.
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hmwtx
August 22, 2022 at 6:52 AM
I agree with that... Jun Ho would help anybody, and has done. Maybe not quite as lovingly or with cheeks clenched and a grin on his face, but he would help anyone he could. When he just stood there and watched her in the courtroom, my first thought was... pause for effect, I get it, now step up and hug her. It was definitely out of character when he didn't.
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Islander north
August 20, 2022 at 10:24 AM
He didn't want to be her babysitter...he was caught between a rock and a hard spot.
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10 DancingEmma
August 19, 2022 at 5:01 PM
What I liked in these last eps:
1. Park Eunbin is a truly gifted actor. I can imagine how much prep she undertook as well to convey her role with such depth, nuance and originality but she seems to be very talented as well.
2. I loved the drawings. They were both whimsical and almost real.
3. Sanghyein was a refreshing character: thoughtful, sensitive, likeable and poignantly acted. I would have liked to have seen much more of him.
Overall, liked this series so much and wished it would go on a bit longer so that some of the subplots could have been fleshed out or alternatively plotted better (so to edit some scenes out and include more salient ones, at least to me).
What I didn’t like in the last eps:
1. I remain disappointed at how poorly conceived Minwoo’s redemption attempt came across. I can’t even call it an arch given how sudden and thinly substantiated it has been. Redemption should involve demonstrated reflection on one’s conduct, admission of one’s wrongdoing and attempts to behave differently. Having the hots for someone as a reason for the alleged change in character was a lazy and easy way out of the toxic character that they had created. I didn’t buy that one bit.
2. A real pity that Youngwoo wasn’t shown to have introduced Juhno to her dad and for that important encounter to have been included on screen. Her dad was such a poignant and sympathetic character and deserved more screen time. Jeon Baesoo did a wonderful job as Woo Gwangho.
3. No where enough scenes with Youngwoo and Juhno. It was annoying for the drama to have hyped that aspect so much and then, leave the audience begging for more. Even if a second series is a remote possibility, Kang Taeoh will be in the military so won’t be able to participate.
4. Attorney Jang was a caricature in his awfulness: A cowardly, obsequious and opportunistic bully but there are people like that for sure in the RL.
5. Using suicide as a dramatic device: While I understand some of the cultural resonance and salience of this issue, it seems at the very least cavalier to me not to provide a critical commentary on it given the real risk of suicidal ideation in a country that has such a relatively high rate of suicide.
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pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:50 PM
I want to say the production could wait for him to come back if season 2 is planned to 2024, but we have been in this kdrama game long enough to know business is business. I have seen someone sharing an article where apparently namoo said they found out about season 2 plans through articles LOL after that I'm taking the idea of a season 2 really lightly tbh. btu it would def be a bit sad to not have him, even though I know this series is all about her life after all.
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Islander north
August 20, 2022 at 10:26 AM
I am ready for Season 2, but our ensemble needs to remain together.
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jerrykuvira
August 19, 2022 at 10:31 PM
I waited for more of 2 and 3 it felt like cheating. With 2, the kind of way I felt when Hospital Playlist didn't allow Seok-hyeong introduce Min-ha to his mom. Just like that, it would have felt complete for that plotline that we see Woo Hwang-ho's reaction when he meets his potential son-in-law. With 3, it seemed like the romance took a total backseat for the finale drama. Ditto with 1. I'm never buying it.
Talking about Attorney Jang. I quite get the fact that we wouldn't get a attorney Jung to work with. There are more Jangs than Jungs. But we see that Jung wasn't only nice to Young-woo, he was nice to all the juniors under his tetulage.
And were Jang even a tad as competent as Jung, I would have try to stomached his awful behavior. How can you be so bad at your job and awful at the same time.
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Lalla32
August 21, 2022 at 3:37 AM
It seemed to me that Jang was a sanior lawyer. But he not only was really awful as a person, but also terrible at his job. I mean, even the rookies were better than him. I think they went a little overboard with that character.
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jerrykuvira
August 21, 2022 at 4:28 AM
Yeah. It felt really overboard so I didn't want to say everything that pissed me off about him.
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kadota
August 20, 2022 at 12:15 AM
"real risk of suicidal ideation in a country that has such a relatively high rate of suicide." This is not talked about enough! Not to mention the lack of trigger warnings despite the use of elaborate, borderline-explicit suicide scenes across dramaland.
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DancingEmma
August 20, 2022 at 1:00 AM
I thought “Tomorrow” was such an exception to the rule as not only it critically dealt with the issue of suicide but it also had a trigger warning at the beginning as well as info about resources and services. The following is such a good reminder of those aspects: https://korean-binge.com/2022/04/11/tomorrow-k-drama-raises-awareness-on-suicide-3-points-to-ponder/
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11 pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:29 PM
it was a nice ending. I wanted youngwoo and junho to end up together mainly for the message that she can indeed make someone happy. I think if the drama ended with them not together, the final impression would be that youngwoo indeed couldn't be in a romantic relationshio after all and this would go against everything the drama set up to be in my opinion: a warm, hopeful and sweet tale. I'm happy. it's easily one of my all time favorites.
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pliplipli
August 19, 2022 at 5:43 PM
when I started watching this drama, my main worry would be how they would represent and write characters and scenarios related to ASD. so in a way I'm kind of happy that the issues we ended up having with the drama are more usual drama problems like pacing, useless random tropes and character development than problematic writing regarding such a serious topic. I think this is what makes me respect this writer a lot, despite feeling a bit frustrating with the last 4 episodes (more like ep 13, 14 and 15). it was not perfect, but I think the writer and park eunbin showed a lot of respect with the way they chose to write and portray youngwoo and ASD. I liked the idea of showing a more positive and almost utopian world for her because this is the world we should all be fighting for. it shouldn't be a fantasy, but the reality.
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12 SEDH
August 19, 2022 at 5:46 PM
I feel kind of bad for writing this, but I found myself wishing that Young Woo had taken the offer to go to Boston where she could have been in a community of high-functioning autistic people, have access to skilled and knowledgable therapists and could have the support she said she desired to help her know herself better. I was kind of hoping that would be the transition to season 2 (which I've seen will debut in 2024) and explain where she's been for 2 years. That said, I really loved the scenes with Young Woo and her brother and Young Woo and Attorney Jung this week. I enjoyed EAW more than I thought I would and have nothing but admiration for Park Eau Bin. I look forward to what stories they decide to tell with season 2, since we clearly haven't had enough of our extraordinary attorney(s).
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DancingEmma
August 19, 2022 at 5:58 PM
I would like her character to remain in SK but to have access to those resources if she wishes. Since she is now a full-time lawyer, I hope she can afford to obtain those resources herself and not be beholden to anyone.
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Jingbee
August 20, 2022 at 3:08 AM
Why uproot someone who has already difficulty adapting to the world she grew up in and for what purpose? She is already high functioning, skilled, and thriving. Knowing herself is not the problem of autistic people, surviving in a world that does not understand and accept them for who they are, is.
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Azili Mishtash
August 21, 2022 at 7:15 PM
I totally agree that it would have been interesting if she had accepted the Boston deal. Don't worry, apart from this Dramabeans board, lots of people have expressed the same sentiment about the Boston possibility bring cool. It just seeme like pandering to a dangerous, self righteous trope if you want to leave the main character without therapies that can improve their quality of life just to be poetic.
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13 abalyn
August 19, 2022 at 6:00 PM
Wow, that was one of the best endings I’ve ever seen a K-drama pull off. The show really became about Attorney Woo becoming independent and solving her own family issues in her own way. I loved how she told her dad that she shouldn’t have to live her life around someone who had never been there for her. Even Attorney Jung’s stomach cancer worked, stupid as it was, because it meant that Young-woo had to find her own way ahead.
I also loved how so many of the characters were not all bad or good. The Hanbada CEO wavered between seeing Young-woo as a tool and an independent lawyer, but she was willing to listen and let Young-woo have a chance to find a middle road in the end. Her mother at times treated her as the worst thing that happened to her and then at other times would get a smile hearing of one of her accomplishments. Although episodes 13-15 weren’t the best, I do feel like 16 could not have been much better.
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14 loveblossom🌸
August 19, 2022 at 6:33 PM
Park Eun Bin was amazing, no surprise. Young Woo was radiant in the end. ♥ Loved how she matched the word fulfillment to her mood. I learned about the Season 2 news before watching the finale so I had expected major things could be left hanging. However, it wasn't too open-ended.
Attorney Jang was a crappy sunbae, but Young Woo's time with him was necessary to show a different situation for her at Hanbada. Not all attorneys are kind and considerate like Attorney Jung Myeong Seok. She bravely voiced her discovery to Attorney Jang despite him looking down on her. It was great to see Su Yeon and Min Woo bringing up Young Woo's point in court too.
I'm not sure if Tae Su Mi's son being part of the hacking was a good move or mighty convenient. I'm leaning towards the former since we didn't have to slog through the usual, heavy angst and public harassment. The show surprised me by not using the illegitimate child factor when they had dangled this potentially big bomb. I was prepared for the fallout.
The tropes of running away to the US or time skips were thankfully not utilized. I like that Young Woo is still a part of Hanbada and most importantly, that she wants to work there. Instead of starting her own law office, I'd like to see her growth and journey with this famous law firm since she's barely begun.
It's nice that the stories were not left with a dramatic end and yet, things were not left too neat. I'm glad that Soo Yeon and Min Woo were not automatically a couple in the final hour. His character has already been discussed and analyzed a lot in the previous recap. Still not smitten with him, but he improved a little.
I like that Jun Ho reminded Young Woo of all their past moments and activities and how he clearly said he was happy with her.
It's not clear if Myeong Seok will still be working for Hanbada. Hope he manages his work-life balance better. I just want him to be a main character in Season 2!
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15 Britney
August 19, 2022 at 7:11 PM
Hours before I saw the final episode, I saw things about there being a second season and a new love interest for Young Woo, effectively putting her in a love triangle so I went into the final episode in a state of confusion haha
But instead it was just as it's always been which was nice.
I don't get why there would be a need for a second season. Sure, there are definitely more stories that could be told but this was nice as it is; it had character development (for the most part) and it felt like the story they wanted to tell was told (for the most part)
Whatever; if they decide to do a second season, fine and if they don't, that's fine too.
I really like the mentor relationship Myeong-seok has with his juniors. I really liked that Young Woo seeks him out when she needs advice and I really liked the moment at the restaurant where everyone was relieved when she said she liked working at Habada. I like how everyone has grown to appreciate and value her perspective even her unfiltered honesty and logic.
Oh that jerk of a lawyer! Not only does he abandon them but he has the audacity to take the praise for the strategy that he kicked Young Woo off the case for but then he asked them if they reflected on their behavior when that's exactly what won their case! Oh I can't stand that.
It was really pleasing seeing him stuck every time the judge corrected him on something that he chastised Young Woo for correcting him on. A part of me wanted Young Woo to get mentored by that judge as well.
I don't even know how I feel about the Hanbada CEO. She "let her off easy"? She was being magnanimous by NOT torpedoing Young Woo's life just to get back at Tae Min? I mean Tae Min already stepped down from the candidacy and now it's shown that she and her family aren't flawless. What else does the Hanbada CEO need? I don't know, it just felt like she could just wait for another moment she felt slighted by Tae Min to use the Young Woo secret to hurt her. It didn't exactly feel like a chapter was closed for her but instead bookmarked. I could totally be wrong. I don't know.
I thought the casting was cool. Tan Min does look like she could be Young Woo's mom and the brother does look like he could be her brother. I liked the similarities among all three. I liked that Tae Min only allowed Young Woo to question the kid and I liked that he sought Young Woo out in the first place.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 20, 2022 at 9:47 AM
I like how the judge echoed Young-woo's preciseness. The judge was more on her wavelength than on those of his fellow Hana University alumni boys club.
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swan
August 22, 2022 at 4:30 PM
I think when CEO Han said that she "let her off easy" it's not only because she doesn't use Young Woo and illegitimate kid secret, but also bcs she honored Young Woo's wish to try convince Tae Su Mi to let her son turn himself in instead of leaking the confession video to media like CEO Han originally wants. Yes because of this Tae Su Mi finally stepped down from candidacy, but it is the choice that she made. She even lied that she just knew about his son hacking after the hearing to save her image, making her look remorseful and respectable, which we know isn't the case. Whereas if that confession video were to get leaked, she will be forced to step down by the minister selection committee and the public and it would be more humiliating to her family, thats why CEO Han thinks she lets her off easy.
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16 eskimo
August 19, 2022 at 7:42 PM
Despite the minor stumbling of the show in the latter half (to be fair, we are only so critical due to the high bar set by the earlier half), the ending is in my humble opinion, is close to perfect. Absolutely love that her final and most poignant achievement in the series is overcoming the revolving door alone, without anyone's help. So simple, yet so *fulfilling* indeed!
Now, about the potential season 2, I don't mind it. It's a beloved series, so fans will always be happy to get another chance to see our whale-loving heroine and her entourage on screen again. From a business standpoint, it would also be a capitalist crime not to seize this opportunity and turn it into a franchise. It would be a win-win situation. The series format makes it a no-brainer too since every episode involves a different case, so as long as the writers can come out with enough mini-story and a compelling overarching plot to further woo young woo's growth, this would be plausible.
However, I'm glad that the finale did nothing suggestive of this potential sequel, and our young woo completes her personal journey in full circle. So even if the sequel doesn't happen, at least the first season 1 will hold up nicely on its own; unlike Eun Bin's other drama Hello My Twenties, where I'm still hopelessly waiting for a third season to resolve some loose plot. Sigh.
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17 jerrykuvira
August 19, 2022 at 9:31 PM
Opening statement: Attorney Jang is bad at his work. I really don’t know how he managed to became a senior lawyer at Hanbada and I don’t want to say that he did so by kissing up the corporate ladder as that would invalidate any good work and efforts he’s done prior off-screen. Good thing CEO Han called him out on it.
Out of all the judges that came along in EAW, the judge who’s so interested in family lines, and the judge for the Raon case are my favorites. They both have this sharp legal mind despite their respective dramas. It was good for EAW showing that the things Young-woo pointed out like(pronunciation and all) that people might refer to as a result of her being on the spectrum, the judge pointed out the very same things. Youngwoo didn’t have to be on the spectrum to want things done right, to the perfect t. And it was the most classic way to deal with Attorney Jang treating her opinions as minimal(I’m trying so hard not to paint Jang’s behavior as …as he was). To think they won the case due to the closing Young-woo recommended. Tsk tsk tsk. To then think that he took all the glory for himself. Smh😒.
I was clear to me that the Raon case was a witch hunt case and indeed it was a witch hunt. But what I didn’t immediately realize was that it was internal. The moment Sang-hyeon mentioned In-cheol without the Mr Bae, I immediately knew the Co-CEO was the person behind the whole thing. I would have wanted them to show us more of the reason behind his actions.
A round of applause to Spring Sunshine Lady Su-yeon for her stand in the court. My only anger in the whole thing was Min-woo asking her to calm down only for him to complete the argument. Perhaps he did that because that’s the kind of person Su-yeon likes and Su-yeon expressly said so to him herself ' I like you. I expect people I like to stand up to what is wrong irrespective of whatever it is. It’s not everytime you have to put on the tactician robe '. He basically stole Su-yeon’s thunder.
If there’s a way for Attorney Jung to be with his ex and still practice as a lawyer, I’ll be happy. He clearly likes his ex as much as he likes his job.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
August 20, 2022 at 3:12 AM
I read the Minwoo asking her to calm down situation differently. He could see that Atty Jang was getting more and more agitated with being shown up; he could see that if Suyeon continued she was likely to get the WYW treatment and be removed from future cases. So he held her back to prevent that outcome and did it himself so that her point *was* made but not at the expense of her immediate future. Since Minwoo has been quiet and compliant up to that point, there was little risk of him facing repercussions for speaking out of turn.
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Alluvial_Fan
August 20, 2022 at 6:36 AM
Not to mention he's also an alumnus along with Atty Jang - so he gets a bunch more leeway.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
October 17, 2022 at 12:12 PM
Yes, I thought Min Woo was protecting Su Yeon. And then he stood up to finish their legally on-target argument, demonstrating that he finally wanted to be a team player, (or a fool as SY had said) standing up for Young Woo and Su Yeon. For me it was a redemptive move. Just wish he had been given some more actions to hint at this earlier in the show.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
February 4, 2023 at 2:19 PM
It struck me, watching the Raon judge, that HE may have also been on the ASD spectrum. He was as particular as Young Woo with the 80% of the population, and word pronunciation. People on the spectrum are, by definition, a spectrum, and for some people it's difficult to tell. Honestly I wish they had pointed this judge out as yet another individual with autism. If you know one person with autism, you know one person with autism - each is very individual, from low functioning like pengsoo to genius like WYW and everywhere in between.
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18 Xpressemu
August 19, 2022 at 9:42 PM
Wooo! We made it!! I think I’m going to be echoing similar sentiments already mentioned, but here we gooooo…
1) Not sure how I’m feeling about a second season. ::sigh:: I was actually mad when they announced it, lol, because I was so sure it meant they were going to give us a cliffhanger. I was going to boycott watching the final episodes but here we are. So much for willpower and determination.
2) Although there was no cliffhanger and everything was relatively wrapped up the ending was kind of meh. They had too much going on with the romance, secret birth, second leads love line, supporting character near fatal illness and case of the week towards the end that nothing felt fully fleshed out.
3) Justice for the character that is Kwon Min-Woo. I feel like the writers didn’t really know what to do with him. His insecurities and cunning in the beginning all of a sudden took a weird plummet toward villainy only to be, just as suddenly 7-8 episodes later, given one line to explain his sappy reason for his descent into d-bag darkness. Then he has a complete personality change due to finding … love? This poor character. If they had just cut out all the ish in the middle episodes, given us his background and more firmly developed the foundations for the love line in the beginning, then we could have seen an interesting character struggling with his morals, pragmatism, desire to be successful and insecurities while catching feels for his co-worker.
4) I just wish they left out all the tropes. It could have been a much richer drama. I think it’s current success rests fully on the character of Woo Young-Woo and Park Eun-Bin acting the soul out of her body. It’ll be interesting to see what season 2 does.
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19 emsel
August 19, 2022 at 10:11 PM
Thanks @unit for recapping this drama. Even though some of the plotlines look rushed, I will rate it 8.5/10 because Woo Young Woo's journey was indeed fullfilling. I look forward to S2 and please production house, bring back the whole cast including Attorney Jang because I want Attorney Jung to put him in his place and make Jang to apologize to his subordinates, esp YW.
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20 Michelle
August 19, 2022 at 10:15 PM
The only k-drama that got my attention so far this year. Very healing and lightweight despite the problems encountered in the last episodes. Also great detail in which they started the show, 6.29 and ended on 8.18, whether flipped or straight, the dates are still the same.
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jerrykuvira
August 19, 2022 at 10:33 PM
😉😜
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Alluvial_Fan
August 20, 2022 at 7:02 AM
HAH! Took me a bit to realize the dates can be flipped on the horizontal axis. Brilliant.
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21 zephyr
August 19, 2022 at 10:33 PM
The ending was…not bad, and I suppose all in all it was as measured and as good an ending as we could have hoped for.
Was still a bit disappointed with the loose ends left behind, but I guess given the 16 episode limitation there was only so much they could do. Unfortunately they ended up using symbolic actions to tie up loose ends instead of really developing some plot points, so it couldn’t help but feel rushed.
Min-Woo’a character, for example. I know it’s an unpopular opinion but probably because the actors are good and have chemistry (and fine, let’s face it, are good-looking), the KMW-CSY ship started to grow on me. (On a side note, check out this interview of the 2 actors with English subs - they were really cute! https://youtu.be/zLY987YMnv8)
Unfortunately it still felt rather schizophrenic - I think Min-Woo trying to explain to Su-Yeon about how they couldn’t go around offending people like WYW the genius was actually really good, but to have Su-Yeon try to convince him to do the right thing because she’s into guys like that really made me go wtf.
I think him getting the courage to prevent Su-Yeon from being dropped from the case and finally standing up against his superior was pretty good, but then later we got his scene telling Tae Su-Mi it was the best time to get WYW to quit now…I didn’t really get that - if you decided that you wanted to do the right thing then why are you still giving her these details? I guess it was more to move the plot along and portray his struggle but it just wasn’t very well done. Hoped for more resolution for his character and more development but we unfortunately didn’t get much of that in the final episode.
Overall I think the cast for the drama was really good, and really grew on me and kept me going even if there were issues with the plot.
Wishing them every success and hope to see them all back for Season 2.
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22 Kurama
August 19, 2022 at 10:59 PM
I loved everything in this drama!
Young-Woo's growth was the main theme. Every case let her grow as lawyer but human being too. She found a squad who let her being herself but teaches her how the society works too. She found love and it was really touching how she made the parallel with her father. The only question I have it's her will to be independant, it kinda disapeared suddenly and she went back to live with her father.
I think they portrayed very well her autism. Every people are different so they couldn't represent every people on the spectrum but with their client, they showed that Young-Woo was just one amongs others. PEB really did well. Her body language, her way to speak, she was perfect!
I really liked the introduction of her little brother who searched her for help. He never brought the autism subject with her. She was just his noona. I hope they will develop their relationship in the season 2.
For the rest, the characters and actors were really good.
For me, Min-Woo had a really interesting arc. He never was a big villain. He did bad things, but he wasn't evil. It's funny because he was more interesting than Lee Jun-Ho. They didn't give any plot to Jun-Ho. We know about his sister but otherwise, it always was about Young-Woo. I think Kang Tae-Oh was very lucky to get this role because he did very well the swoony part but he didn't have to act anything else...The director and PEB helped him for his scenes.
I liked how neither of the CEO were evil too. They were ambitious and smart but respected a certain limit.
I'm happy with the news of season 2 because it came after they ended the first one. They will have time to write it because of Kang Tae-Oh's army service.
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23 Aidualc
August 19, 2022 at 11:11 PM
Did it falter a bit in the last few episodes? Yes, like many a kdrama before. But nobody died and nobody went to Boston so I'll count that as a win. While they left some conflicts open it wrapped up just enough to count as a proper ending for those who wont watch season 2 (or if it never gets made).
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24 Nefret
August 19, 2022 at 11:55 PM
The end was actually better and more satisfying than I had feared after episodes 13 and 14. There are still some issues that have not been properly concluded, but perhaps this will be answered in a possible season 2.
At the end of episode 15, I thought the revelation that Tae Su-mi's son is the actual hacker was too simple a solution to avoid disclosing that Young-woo is Tae Su-mi's illegitimate daughter. But the more I saw Young-woo's half-brother and the similarities between the siblings, the more I liked the idea.
While it was cute how Young-woo and Jun-ho got back together and I'm happy for them too, I don't think their problems are really solved. They still have a long time to work on their relationship. Also, I would like to know more about Jun-ho.
It's good that Su-yeon and Min-woo didn't get together (yet). Because that really would have been too quick. Also, Min-woo's change needs to be more long-term and believable. The fact that his intrigues were not revealed suggests that this will be an issue in a possible second season.
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25 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 20, 2022 at 12:08 AM
Attorney Woo: An opinion in two parts.
Part 1: Love is blind and forgiving
Wherein I express my overall love for this show, Park Eun-bin and her amazing Woo Young-woo.
The way the show canvassed the spectrum of autism spectrum disorder and did not mistakenly attribute the female lead's savant qualities to autism generally. The way in which it sensitively portrayed both the benefits and challenges of being neurodiverse in a world that is built by and for the neurotypical and how it's fine to be a Narwhal in a pod of Belugas so long as some of the Belugas have your back.
The way in which it said that love and relationships were possible for somebody like Woo Young-woo without having to change who she is or conform to some romantic template.
The way in which the tone deaf "Boston" plan never eventuated and so Young-woo never went to be "cured" nor had her life uprooted by being transplanted to an entirely different culture and still be expected to function as an attorney and a person.
Essentially all the ways in which the show was delightful and heartwarming and extremely earnest.
For this, I have much love.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 20, 2022 at 12:24 AM
Part 2: Love is qualified and honest
Wherein I express my disappointment with certain elements of the show's characterisation and plotting, especially in its portrayal of professional ethics and its unfortunate treatment of Young-woo's mother and her aspirations above and beyond motherhood. Also it's clear and obvious Jeju PPL that got extremely heavy-handed. Also its Very Special Episode tone, which took its earnestness and stretched it to saccharine fantasy.
Firstly, it became obvious as we got into the back half that Attorney Woo had received big PPL money from Jeju Island and that started to become concerning. The two law firms - Mountain and Sea - the two-episode trip to Jeju bizarrely involving ALL our characters, and even Young-woo's adorable whale fixation started to make it seem as though the show was actually structured around advertising Jeju Island. Where the mountains meet the sea and dolphins frolic in its waters. Everything that happened to that point seemed to culminate in an ad for Jeju that had me questioning whether any of the show's decisions had been organic.
The show's earnestness also turned preachy in that episode and it tended again to backcast the previous earnestness as saccharine fantasy. An elite law form tracking a noodle chef down in a mountain monastery to solve all his legal problems stretched credulity. Especially for a show where the tension between the law as a business and the law as a means for justice was a central them. Supposedly.
As Attorney Woo unfolded, I began to be quite uncomfortable with a number of things regarding two characters: Young-woo's absent mother, Tae Soo-mi and her colleague Min-woo.
Soo-mi's decision to not be a mother while still in University was portrayed as a villainous act, even after she underwent childbirth because her boyfriend begged her to, basically turning her into an incubator. It's fine for a woman barely out of her teens to not want motherhood. This is an acceptable thing. It's understandable that Young-woo would be upset about this but not that the show would ask us to cast judgement on her mother as an objectively bad person.
Which brings us to Min-woo. Oh poor Min-woo, whose natural character arc was hijacked by somebody - probably a producer or senior writer - who decided the show needed a clear antagonist (it really really really didn't) and so had him act to blackmail somebody and attempt to destroy his colleague's entire life through legal malpractice.
It's clear the writers themselves had no idea of the implications of what the character had done and so their treatment of his 'redemption' arc was for him to have an epiphany about entirely the wrong thing. Essentially he realised he needed to change something that was a part of his original character, not atone for an act that is quite literally criminal.
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Lalla32
August 21, 2022 at 3:56 AM
Yes, yes! Totally agree on everything you said. Especially about the part of the show losing its earnestness in the second half. And about YW mother... I am quite grateful that they avoided exposing her. Even if the final result is still the same... she will give up her ambition and try to be a better mom X_X
I also would like to point out that giving a character cancer in the last 4 episodes just to get him back with hir ex wife and to reflect on his life balance was a bit too much for me.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 20, 2022 at 12:31 AM
This has somehow turned into an essay and I probably should have written a blog post instead (and probably will).
Let's just say that when it came to Min-woo, the writers done fucked up. And worse than that, they don't seem to realise they've done it. They seem to think his sabotage of Young-woo by not giving her enough time to read background material and sabotage through serious legal malpractice that could have resulted in her being struck off and never practising law again for the rest of her life were the same thing - i.e. tactics.
They're not at all. And so Min-woo was left to change and atone for the wrong thing (I think @festerfaster was making this same argument on Twitter and she's 100% correct). But then the whole blackmail incident was completely out of character in the first place, something which the writers don't seem to know.
As I said right at the beginning, I've decided to love this show and forgive it for its flaws. But if there is going to be a season 2 (it doesn't need a season 2) then Min-woo is going to have to face up to his wrongdoing properly. Otherwise, no viewers are going to get behind a romance between him and Sunshine. Because she could deserve the "real" Min-woo as the character was originally conceived. But she doesn't deserve the one we got - she deserves better.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 20, 2022 at 12:53 AM
I'll write yet another comment to mention that, when it comes to the show's exploration of the way in which Korean society treats and reacts to somebody who has autism or is in some other way not neurotypical would have been much better served by Young-woo's mother abandoning her because she couldn't handle raising a child with autism. That would have had the added advantage of making her both weak and selfish, two elements that she needed to have for a story where she was essentially the show's only antagonist (Min-woo notwithstanding). As it is, she was being judged harshly for doing two things that women should be able to do - decide when they want to be mothers and to pursue a career.
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Alluvial_Fan
August 20, 2022 at 7:12 AM
ASD is difficult to determine in small children, let alone in infants. For birth mom to give up on raising an autistic daughter she would have had to stick around for a few years. Glad to see your cogent analysis.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 20, 2022 at 12:18 PM
Well yes, this would mean she left later when Young-woo was about four or so. Which would give weight to a lot of other plotlines, including Young-woo's sadness at being abandoned and the potential scandal of people finding out.
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hmwtx
August 22, 2022 at 7:11 AM
While her leaving after YWY's diagnosis would have been extra - making her double-evil, as you put it... it is not accurate to her character in the way it was handled in Showland. She did raise (is raising?) YWY's dongsaeng, who exhibits many traits that would place him on the spectrum alongside his sister. The fact that both of her highly-intelligent children hold little-to-no regard for her skills as a mother speaks volumes about her character. She has been condemned by both the one she gave up (who grew up well under the care of her father) and the one she kept (who holds her in a bit of contempt as well, but who follows the rules to the point of accepting her as his maternal authority). As for why she gave up YWY and kept her son, well, I attribute that to the factors of when each was born (out of wedlock/in a marriage) and the fact that the younger one was a son - still favored over daughters in Asian cultures. The concept that karma gave her a second child on the spectrum, that's just cosmic fairness. She didn't know he would have issues, just like she could not have known her newborn girl had them. We already saw her diagnosis scene, in the first episode... she was what, 5 or 6?
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ladybug22
August 20, 2022 at 2:59 AM
Well said, waiting for the blog post 👌
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Jingbee
August 20, 2022 at 3:16 AM
As always, you eloquently expressed what I can only attempt in my head. Thank you for saying this, especially about Boston and being "cured" because that is what I earnestly hoped the audience would get.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
October 17, 2022 at 12:38 PM
Well said
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26 kadota
August 20, 2022 at 12:25 AM
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27 kadota
August 20, 2022 at 12:28 AM
I'd 10/10 accept a spin-off about Attorney Jung restoring his work-life balance, perhaps opening his own firm, doing acapella with Geurami and Hairy Sajang, and glimpses of his unwitting comedic duo with YoungWoo, who would still be consulting him for advice--but hopefully not at 3am when Myungseokie needs to sleep.
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28 kadota
August 20, 2022 at 12:40 AM
On the actual show: The charm wore off in the second half. Interestingly, the director had already written the first 8 episodes before the writer joined for the remaining 8...might there be a correlation as pointed out by @laica?
Thinking back to the scene where Junho shows Youngwoo the whale picture in the conference room, I can't help but feel the team loss that quiet, assured direction of a story that knew its message and wasn't afraid to convey it, even if it might be lost on some.
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kadota
August 20, 2022 at 12:42 AM
*lost
Aghhh at this point we should have an OST mourning the edit button which cues every time this happens
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29 FormAnOrderlyQueue
August 20, 2022 at 3:30 AM
Yes, it had it's weaknesses, as other Beanies have eloquently expressed, but it brought me my favourite boss ever and for that it will always have a place in my heart. The man is straight-up KIND and that is such a rare quality to have spotlighted in a boss. Atty Jung: may you find your perfect work-life balance, and may your noodles always have bounteous amounts of pork!
I appreciated the way everyone was left in the middle of growing - this may have simply been to make a Season 2 easier - but I felt it was very much in the spirit of things: people had moved on; people have further to go/develop/explore... Big smile on my face at that point.
And just *loved* how I learnt more about autism, how I was forced to think and reflect on assumptions, and how I appreciated the diversity in the world a little more at the end. So, here's to letting the weaknesses fall into forgetfulness and smiling at the delight that was this drama.
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dramadillo
August 20, 2022 at 9:39 AM
I loved the way Attorney Jung was written as well. It was great that he was highly competent as an attorney, a supportive boss (and teacher), and also very human. He was not perfect, and shown to be still learning himself, capable of foibles and embarrassment, and of neglecting his loved ones. I wish Jun Ho’s character was written as well as Attorney Jung’s but I know we can’t have everything!
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30 Toodlepip
August 20, 2022 at 5:47 AM
Easily the closest to a good ending I've seen in a long time, notwithstanding some wobbles. Thankfully, the main focus was not the romance (as much as I loved it) as it was on YW adapting to rapidly changing circumstances and background machinations. My favourite parts, YWs explanation of the breakup to JH. The interaction between YW and her half brother, in fact all the parts her brother appeared in, I wish he had been introduced earlier. YWs final chat with her mum, where she convinced her to let her son testify.
Wobbly bits(!), the redemption arc for MW, a bit too sudden and lacking depth. Plus the romance with spring sunshine, was that needed? I'm not sure.
In any case, this final episode left me smiling along with YW.
Thank you @unit, for the insightful weecaps!
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31 BedeliaJane
August 20, 2022 at 6:28 AM
@Unit Thanks for the weecap! Yeah, I wanna rest my knuckle on Attorney Jang's head too. He's such an Ā$$hÖL€. Even MW seems pissed with him, haha. I'm so glad the judge has integrity, is not corrupted and best of all, the judge thinks like YW!
I love YW's brother! He's so similar to YW (e.g. the gimbab thing and a genius). He doesn't even know how she's really like, but decides to trust her!
Considering how she still gave birth to YW and how she brought her son up well, perhaps Tae Sumi is actually a good and nice person.
I'm kinda glad there's no MW-SY romance!
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32 Ally
August 20, 2022 at 7:09 AM
This was the best ending that I’ve seen in a long time. It tied up all the story lines, and you could leave satisfied that although the show ended, you could still imagine these characters living on. I am looking forward to the next season. This show is hugely popular in the US right now. How do I know? This past week, I was seeing clinic patients and walked into one room with a middle-aged Midwestern woman watching Netflix. One guess what she was watching——THIS SHOW! I didn’t take long telling her I was watching it too and her mother was the person who apparently introduced it to her. She was on the confession episode where Jun-Ho was outside the revolving doors about to tell Young-woo he liked her. 😂 I did also like the importance the revolving doors took from a thematic and metaphorical reference. And it’s just such a pretty shot.
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BeeB
August 20, 2022 at 12:52 PM
I never would have expected that this drama would get this huge in Korea let alone internationally. It really is a beautiful drama.
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33 Alluvial_Fan
August 20, 2022 at 7:29 AM
Dear @unit: the application of a knuckle to a certain forehead has already been mentioned but I'd like to add my appreciation for your in-the-moment comments sprinkled throughout. What?, Woah, Again What?, Sir? and Truck of Doom PTSD is real y'all, Phew!.
Made me feel I was re-watching alongside you. Thanks for your great work on and love for this quirky dramady.
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Unit
August 20, 2022 at 11:37 AM
@jossie4cheryl 🤍 thank you.
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34 aida
August 20, 2022 at 8:24 AM
By the end of the finale, my heart was swelling with love and pride for our Atty Woo💗
After skimming the comments I have concluded that I have been a less critical viewer than most. Portraying shades of gray is what this drama excelled at, and I'm very happy almost none of the characters were black or white - even our heroine tripped over her morals occasionally! I didn't hate Min-woo or Tae Su-mi, because I felt like the drama didn't hate them either - it merely showcased a myriad of people Young-woo has and will encounter in her life. Some Belugas will have your back from day one, some won't... and some will come around.
I enjoyed the portrayal of autism and I feel like I've learned a lot - I'm definitely more interested in finding out more. I know widespread discrimination against neurodivergent folks still exists, but I hope one day we will also live in a world where people with autism can work, love, live and be fulfilled without prejudice.
If I had one gripe with the show, it's that I wish they spent a little more time on Jun-ho. By the end he was, annoyingly, a little too perfect. He made my heart swoon, but he didn't make my brain swoon. I wished they'd given him some juicy moral dilemmas. Maybe in S2?
Park Eun-bin's portrayal has been lauded time and time again. My humble contribution is that Lady Gaga quote/meme: talented, brilliant, incredible, amazing, show stopping, spectacular, never the same, totally unique, completely not ever been done before, unafraid to reference or not reference, put it in a blender, sh*t on it, vomit on it, eat it, give birth to it.
When Young-woo was happy, I was happy. I hope we see each other again in 2024, Youngwoo-ya 🥺
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Zn
August 22, 2022 at 4:23 AM
Same here. Not a very critical viewer. Compared to many other crappy dramas with overused tropes, this drama is like a breath of fresh air. It warms my heart and yet throw little surprises here and there in the plot. The only sore thumb is Min Woo approaching Tae with the secret and his dangerous attempt to oust YW which could have gotten her disbarred as pointed out by other viewers. This was unnecessary and if to bring out how women can support one another rather than sabotage, this action could have been done by other person in the firm perhaps paid off by Tae to do so. Min woo just is a convenient bad choice if they had planned to redeem him in the end. But even so, I really cannot imagine Tae Su-mi paying someone to do that...she just is not that sort of bad mom. Even in last episode when Min Woo told her he can't deliver as promised, she was smiling throughout the conversation. No sign of irk! Back to my previous comment in the last weecap that she is so half hearted in securing Young woo away from her and her bid for law minister. I mean...would you agree to meet your illegitimate child just before the confirmation hearing? That's so dangerous for her endeavor, an unnecessary risk to take.
Anyway, remove all of that part (imagine it didn't happen), I think most can then agree it is a very well written and directed drama with great choice of the cast. Nothing really for me to complain. I learnt a lot first time from a drama.
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35 LaurenSophie
August 20, 2022 at 8:41 AM
Yes, this show was a gem, and I enjoyed every moment I spent watching it. The finale did the tone and themes of the show justice, but left me wanting just a little bit more on some fronts. At the same time, it stayed true to its goal, which was to give us a peek into part of one woman's life as she came into her own both personally and professionally. So I can only commend the writing for telling an engaging, moving, often funny, and ultimately very satisfying story.
That said, I was a little disappointed in the resolution of Min-woo and Su-yeon's mini-arc. Clearly, the writer felt she needed more of an impetus for Min-woo's growth than him eventually learning to respect Young-woo as an attorney and a human being with an emotional landscape similar to his own. His attraction to Su-yeon and desire to impress her was obviously supposed to supplement growth on that front. But it would have been better if those feelings had been shown more gradually from the start, and that Su-yeon's feelings had also started earlier OR that they were shown to clearly lead somewhere unambiguously romantic in the last episode. Instead, focusing so much on those feelings in three episodes and then basically ignoring them in the finale seemed clumsy to me, especially since the writer overall made very few stumbles.
I also didn't care for Attorney Jang's 11th hour prominence because unlike every other character, he was purely a caricature of the arrogant, sexist, ableist sunbae.
I did ultimately love Young-woo's relationship with Jun-ho. Their conflicts were very realistic, and handled with care and respect. I think it's also obvious that these two didn't fully resolve anything with the cat talk, and that they will continue to have the same struggles with communication. Jun-ho will be lonely, and Young-woo will have difficulty considering his feelings. To that end, I wondered if it was worth putting them (and us!) through that last minute breakup if the show was only going to nod at the big issues between them and then move on. But after watching that final scene--with Young-woo expressing fulfillment to Jun-ho and him understanding exactly what that meant for her--I couldn't really argue with any choices the writer made.
Finally, I was surprised at how much I liked how the show resolved the mother arc. Introducing a half-brother, and giving him a satisfying arc in just one episode, was the perfect way to give some closure without blowing up the lives of so many characters.
I think a second season could be good (they need to wait for Kang Tae-oh to finish military service first, though!) because this writer is talented enough to pull that off. But I also want to cherish and protect this feeling of discovering and relishing a true gem as it aired.
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jerrykuvira
August 20, 2022 at 10:15 AM
His attraction to Su-yeon and desire to impress her was obviously supposed to supplement growth on that front
Well captured. Something that helped me see Min-woo a little bit less of a judgment lens( the judgment hasn't changed but there's now the inclusion of understand and floss aside) in the last two to four episodes was the fact that people sometimes change due to the presence of someone who and which makes them change their trajectory. If he makes changes due to Su-yeon, I would find it more compelling than if begins to respect Woo Young-woo straight up because time and time again he has shown us that he isn't going to do that, ever.
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36 ar_arguably romantic
August 20, 2022 at 10:03 AM
An overall satisfying ending. I love how episode 16 had callbacks to the first episode and being able to see how far Young-woo had come. This has been a warmhearted and charming ride with some of the most interesting cases in kdramas. And then intertwining that with Young-woo's growth as an attorney and as a person. It's just masterfully done!
There were some stumbles in recent weeks, but it's good to know that even great writers and great dramas have their last quarter kdrama stumble.
There were some loose ends that I think they just didn't have enough time to address, like Minwoo's sudden turnabout, Young-woo and Junho clearing the air (a few quick words before she runs off on a time-sensitive mission is too little), and the deal with Hanbada's CEO. I loved this drama, but am iffy about a second season (I'm not sure if they can live up to the first), but I think this drama could have gone on another 2 episodes to flesh out the things set this season (unlike a certain Mon-Tues drama that turns out to be 18 episodes long - why?!).
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Zn
August 22, 2022 at 7:25 AM
I was really hoping for one special episode. Haha.
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37 JuneFlowers
August 20, 2022 at 10:23 AM
Found this real life YWY love story: https://www.reddit.com/r/KDRAMA/comments/wqhoc7/comment/ikosbpv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
October 17, 2022 at 1:05 PM
Thank you for sharing this! Wonderful story. Both this true story and show give me hope for my daughter, who is on the spectrum.
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38 john
August 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM
It was a deft move having Attorney Woo’s brother revealed as the hacker .
Min woo’s character though, was a mess. His plotting and animosity towards Woo was out of place in this “romance personal growth law drama “ and was more of the “ evil chaebol revenge corporate law drama “ level of deviousness.
The characters of Hairy & Dong Geu-ra-mi could have been fleshed out a bit more. All in all I enjoyed the show.
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39 OldLawyer
August 20, 2022 at 4:22 PM
My wife and I really loved EXTRAORDINARY ATTORNEY WOO. It was a fabulous show. It was an extraordinary show to the end.
Most legal shows leave me cold. Part of the reason this one did not is that they got the law right even if it was often in a highly simplified fashion. The writer also got many of the ethical dilemmas faced by lawyers right and even showed some of the things that any lawyer needs to experience in order to truly become ‘skilled in the law’: Many people did not like episode five that much, but it was exactly one of those experiences that have to happen before Young-woo could truly become a real lawyer- and thus a very necessary part of her story. In his last episode we saw an illustration of that ethical problem known as “Who is my real client here?”. Yes, we got the correct answer to that question.
Like unit, I was disappointed that we never got any explanation for the feud between Woo-young’s mom and her boss really all about and from whence did it spring? This has been our favorite show and I actually hope that we see a second season and delving into this mystery would be a good reason for it.
Min-woo sudden maturation did not bother me one bit- his jerkiness was just a symptom and result of his desperation over his family circumstances. Meeting our Miss Spring Sunshine gave him the courage to abandon a bad attitude that did not make him any happier than it made anybody else. Besides, if we do get a second season, we get to see the story of the Princess and the Pauper- not just the wooing of Su-yeon but the necessary struggle for him to be accepted by her family. Another good reason for a second season.
Also arguing for a second season is the need to explore this new relationship that Young-woo has with an unexpected sibling, starting with the ethics of her representing him in the criminal matter. Because you can be sure that he will insist on that.
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40 Viki
August 20, 2022 at 11:38 PM
I loved this! Of course there were some flaws but overall, it was great. Definitely one of my top dramas this year.
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41 kdragon
August 21, 2022 at 9:47 AM
Loved everything about this drama except these two lines:
1. " I like guys who are like that." - Choi Su-yeon in Ep 15
2. "I'm going to try living like a fool." - Kwon Min-woo in Ep 16
I was ok with where it was going with Min-woo and Su-yeon but not as thrilled that they made it out like "she" was the reason for the change when I initially thought she just made him "reflect". But maybe it's just me. 😅
And I was so happy with the finale, that eventhough was hoping for a Whale Couple wedding (even after a time-jump hahaha), I knew the drama isn't about that and that it's still early on in the relationship and they are still young. Thank you for not giving fan service in that end coz we can look forward to that in S2 😉
PLUS I am so grateful that even if we only had a few minutes for our whale couple in the finale, they ended it with them .. at the revolving door where they first met. 🥰
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kdragon
August 21, 2022 at 9:54 AM
Oh i also cringed at that 2 instance of too obvious ppl 😅
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
December 8, 2022 at 8:43 PM
I wish that Atty Woo would have had a hair-blown-back -with-whale-breaching moment about her feelings for Jun-Ho. I would have loved to see her growth of aha moments extend beyond cases to her personal relationships. Love your "Whale Couple" wedding idea, ha,ha,ha!
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42 Adjussi1
August 21, 2022 at 5:18 PM
I loved this drama!!! Yes, it had it's weaknesses- I agree about Min-woo s horrible treating of our heroine going unaddressed-big weakness! I am in the camp of wanting more backstory for Jun-ho- why would a popular, normal guy be so extraordinarily kind to YW & know exactly what to do when she need him? Also, the CAT thing- really? That was not enough of a reason, and I would LOVE to see Season 2 explore him a bit more, develop the brother-sister relationship that was begun with the half brother, Jun-ho meet Dad, and the reason for the two CEO's animosity such that they would use YW as a ping pong-awful! So much more to develop- Here's to Season 2- I need more of Young Woo!!!!
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43 hmwtx
August 22, 2022 at 7:30 AM
I am ignoring the Min Woo stuff and accepting the finale as satisfying. (Min Woo's character issues... well, that's a tangled web of nonsense I don't have time to untangle.) It was especially rewarding considering that two other dramas I am watching now are about to end, and I have very low expectations on those finales (Alchemy of Souls and Cafe Minamdang). I did not take great offense to the cat-love conversation, I mean, yes WYW is not a cat. Obvs. But I think Jun Ho being able to express what he is thinking in a metaphor that she can easily understand was good. He's telling her that he knows she will sometimes make him feel lonely/unappreciated, but he's still "in" because she makes him happy in general. He's open to accepting her as she is, and that's the point. You can't change a cat any more than you could (or should) change WYW. I thought it was sweet, and when she took it up and responded as she did that was also sweet and effective communication to him - I understand, even if I cannot change, but I still have the ability to love you back. I agree with earlier posters that it seems odd that Jun Ho has not yet met her dad, who is such a close part of her life, but I suppose it was not necessary to get us to the end of this chapter in their story. I like that there are question marks around Atty Jung's future plans - not everything needs to be pinned down and mapped out to end his chapter. He himself is not sure what he will do moving forward, why should we all know? I liked the line about her brother (I mentioned bringing him in weeks ago, hoping he would side with/like his sister to his mother's frustration)... it was poetic justice to see him also being on the spectrum. Frankly, I'm glad he cost his mom the ministry job, even if as as side effect rather than a direct sabotage.
Overall, this was a pretty and pleasant drama which was funny and poignant and will be on my (admittedly, kind of long) list of favorites for a while.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
December 8, 2022 at 8:39 PM
Great comments. I agree that Jun-Ho's character was underdeveloped. Often, I thought he was playing what seemed to be a female's reaction to romance. He should have met her dad at sometime. And it never was really explained how Atty Woo ended up living at home again. There were lots of places where the backgrounds of the characters could have been a little more developed and the time on case stories reduced. Overall, it was a charming drama and one of my new favs.
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44 bugs_bunny
August 22, 2022 at 5:39 PM
Might be late at the recap party, but 1st let me thank Unit for the weecaps each week!
Also for the beanies & their insights about the story & the characters, most especially for those who shared a part of their own stories, big Thank YoU!
EAW will go down as one of my favorites, for the simple fact that it's life-affirming. As Woo Young Woo, Park Eun Bin was amazing 🥰 will continually follow her career as she makes different choices to master her craft!
The rest of the cast were excellent as well. It's my 1st time to see Kang Ki Young in a non-comedic role 😀 he usually plays the uncle or friend for laughs, but credit to him for being a credible sunbae. I didn't mind the cancer story coz it brought out the ex-wife, Lee Yoon-Ji, would luv to see more of her in dramas!
I also didn't mind that the lovestory wasn't front & center, but just part of Yoong Woo's personal journey. The 2nd half of the drama had enough legal cases so YW can grow professionally. I appreciate the writer's observations in life or slight social commentary like the busy schedule of young students, the idealistic attorney that handled the gender discrimination case & the monk's response as to why they were asking for entrance fees (to keep people away, a slight dig on over tourism 😉).
I would luv a 2nd season only if they can get the whole cast back. The writer can develop back stories for hairy boss, I think his restaurant only exist for WYW! I want to find out if Min Woo & Su Yeon can last 😉 and most especially to see WYW get married 🤗
Here's to hoping we see more kdramas like this, a heartwarming tale of a lead who's determined to learn how master the rotating door & realize that she's fulfilled, or should I dare say accomplished!!!
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45 Azili Mishtash
August 22, 2022 at 6:02 PM
I'm 100% sure that Jun Ho figured out that Tae Su Mi was her mother. He's an investigator after all.
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Zn
August 23, 2022 at 4:06 PM
Agree. He commenting her being brave to volunteer to persuade Tae Su-mi shows that he made the connection between the out of blue proposal for YW to join Taesan and her birth secret. He can't be complimenting YW for being brave to defy CEO Han cos we all know YW doesn't care about subservience to leaders (lawyer Jung can attest to that!). He must have realised how hard it was for her to face her mother who has been absent all the while and then tried to move her overseas for her own ambitions and saw the parallel with the situation with her brother.
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46 gold
September 2, 2022 at 10:42 PM
Even tho I wondered from like the Jeju Island arc onwards if this is the the same show I started, I liked the final case so much~ It was interesting and since the beginning, I wondered things like 'How did they know that employee's account? is it an inside job?' because something was fishy but the twists were amazing! I loved how baby brother was introduced, how Min Seok kept mentoring like mama hen even while recovering from a major surgery, giving his advice without pushing his beliefs and how CEO Han put Jang on his place time and time again... I didnt like how they wanted to make Minwoo redeem himself going the cheap 'love interest' route... I was okay with him being the somewhat snotty serious one willing to do anything to win a case that unintentionally brought some comedic relief -the face he made when YWY called him tactician and his distraught face when they had no choice but to sing and dance to get the elderly on their side in the village case was priceless- but it would take more than seeing him through Little miss sunshine's lovesick eyes to make us believe he changed for good after thinking YW's ASD gives her 'privileges', attempting to get his coworker fired and blackmailing a fellow attorney... nope, its too much...
as for Jun Ho... I felt since the Jeju break up that it was a non-issue and felt sorry for him... I mean, her doubts were valid but why not talk it out with him? I sincerely thought they would find a common ground instead of each one doing stuff they dont like for the other's sake... I read the actor is enlisting -nooooooo~ whats with these actors getting in trouble or enlisting when I declare I'll wait for their next projects? *pouts*- and would be back for the 2nd season so I hope we get to see more development then~
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47 kdramacurious
September 23, 2022 at 9:50 AM
For some reason, I was expecting Atty. Jung to quit Hanbada and start his own private practice and that revelations about the circumstances of WYW's birth would lead to her quitting Hanbada and joining Atty. Jung. Shows you how much I know. haha!
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48 Charlotte Spada
October 20, 2022 at 7:23 PM
I've seen video of attorney woo in a wedding dress with Jun Ho staring in wonder. Where does that happen in the series?
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panshel
October 20, 2022 at 8:04 PM
The wedding dress case in Episode 2.
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49 Qingdao: likes scented candles
December 8, 2022 at 8:31 PM
Just finished this drama--loved it! Great characters and arcs, interesting case story lines and a little romance, too. Seems there were enough open threads to have a second season! I waited to watch this, as it seems that having an autistic character is trendy in Kdramas....BUT, this drama was so engaging and entertaining that I wish I had watched it sooner.
I really liked the way the relationship and romance between a "disabled" person and a "normal" person. There were discussions and even a court case about the issues around it. This really made the premise of the romance of the main character believable (except the "idiocracy" fake break-up arc).
The review is correct: we viewers wanted more, even a hint, of the rivalry between the the two CEO attorneys. And, I personally wanted Attorney Woo's co-workers to acknowledge her biological mother. It did not take away from the drama, rather, it could have enhanced it.
Overall, this is another one of those dramas where the premise and description aren't that appealing but it really is a "ten!"
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50 Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
February 11, 2023 at 8:08 PM
Thank you @unit for another great recap! You are right, TOD PTSD is real!!!
I just discovered notes on my phone and realized I'd never added them to comments when I'd finished watching EAWYW last year, so here they are.
I really enjoyed this show, it now resides in my list of top favorites. Park Eun Bin is amazing!! I have sought more of her performances.
I love Jun Ho!! Green flag. Unwaveringly supportive and accepting. He does not need to be complicated or have conflict to be interesting. (He does need to be Kang Tae Oh, though!!) I hope season 2 writers do not create some elaborate backstory for LJH. It will be enough to get to know his family better, work through their thoughts and potential prejudices against WYW. Also reevaluate his friendships: who cares about and trusts him to be willing to get to know Young Woo beyond first appearances? And which ones are no longer true friends? Something simple for his story would be super. (Hello Writers, are you reading this?) Perhaps Jun Ho's sister, any other siblings, and one of their parents are all immediately set against WYW. Then the other parent reveals that they had a friend/cousin/relative years ago with whom they were very close, and that person was on the spectrum. That person moved away, but Jun Ho spent a lot of time as a little boy with this parent and the friend and is thus understanding and comfortable with people who have idiosyncrasies. Done. No angst, death/birth secrets, noble idiocy, forced separations, etc. etc.
I also loved: Sunshine's honest kindness; loving and patient dad; wonderful boss Myeong Seok; and long time friend Geu Rami who really"gets" Young Woo. I would be ok with a redemption story for Min Woo, but only if they include him recognizing and correcting for his awful unethical actions in EAWYW 1.
As a cat lover (see my DB name! 😺), I understand and appreciate the cat analogy. Similar to ASD, many people don't understand cats and their unique way of communicating. Dogs are openly expressive and thus easy for people to understand. Cats also love their human family - not just anecdotal, research studies have demonstrated this! - but cats are more reticent and people aren't always able to interpret their behavior. A cat's affection is subtle. An eye blink, a slow approach, a purr, a cheek rub. A person with autism may also show affection in a different way - not with hugs, hand holding, or flirty glances but with subtlety. Young Woo doesn't find excuses to touch Jun Ho or give him compliments or gifts like the other women at Hanbada, but she does tell him she thinks about him like her beloved whales, she waits for him to arrive at work, she peers at him from her office window. The analogy is that Jun Ho accepts and cares for Young Woo for who she is rather than expecting her to behave like others. She's a cat in a dog's world and that's ok with him.
As a special education teacher and parent of a young adult on the spectrum, when I...
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