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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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A Moment at Eighteen: This is such a promising start. I’m happy to say my biggest concern–the acting abilities of the cast’s rookies–turned out not to be a problem. While Kim Hyang-gi is already a known quantity to me (I love her but feel so old now that she’s turning into a leading lady in her own right), the biggest question marks for me were Shin Seung-ho and Ong Sung-woo. Shin Seung-ho has done an incredible job portraying both sides of his character: perfect school boy and ticking time bomb. That supressed, simmering rage and insecurity! I feel like he’s really only barely keeping a lid on things right now. Ong Sung-woo’s has had less to work with compared to his costars, but he’s doing a good job fleshing out a character who’s entire life revolves around holding people at a distance while trying to be invisible.

 

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Designated Survivor: 60 Days: I’m both frustrated and impressed at how the show maneuvered President Park, Agent Han, and Assemblywoman Yoon into this situation where they’re all holding pieces of the puzzle but don’t dare discuss it with anyone else. So they’re just working separately with these incorrect assumptions and leaving Oh Young-seok to handsomely carry out his plans for world domination via well-tailored suits. I hate you, Assemblyman Oh, and your jaw-dropping gorgeousness. I hope they catch you soon, you diabolical good-looking jerk!

Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung: I guess expecting Hae-ryung to be a genius at everything from the get-go isn’t very realistic. So, not a lot of ass-kicking from Hae-ryung this week. But I enjoy the palace shenanigans a lot. I especially love that moment when the historian sunbaes marched off to claim their hoobaes from the court ladies and started teaching them in earnest. And though Hae-ryung isn’t the Jang-geum prodigy I thought she would be, this story leaves more room for her growth. She knows what’s right based on books and philosophy and science, but in the palace, she’s learning to navigate around politics and the people’s needs and hopes. Meanwhile, her friends and (potential) love interests are also learning something from her. And while we’re on the topic of love interests, why are you giving me three very shippable ships, Show?! As if two weren’t enough? Now my sinking rate just increased from 50% to 67%…

A Moment at Eighteen: My notes from the first episode said “slice of life handsome Ong” which is very unhelpful but true. Thankfully, my notes from the second episode “It hurts pls stop,” makes more sense. This show looks deceptively light. The scenes are brightly lit and the colors look so fresh, but there’s this heaviness to the actual stories when we follow along the kids’ lives. No one embodies that heaviness more than Choi Joon-woo, who seems to have just accepted that people are bad and life is bad and what’s another school transfer and another accusation on top of who knows how many he has already? I want him to fight but I don’t want him to get hurt, which I know is impossible. Now that he’s decided to stay and fight, I’m in for a lot more heaviness and pain. Can we pleeease get more allies on his side soon?

Class of Lies: Another classroom full of terrible kids, yay! (Not.) After A Moment at Eighteen’s heavy realness, I felt strangely comforted by OCN’s highschool drama where at least *I* know that this or that kid is Satan’s spawn, a caricature of actual highschool kids. There’s no need for me to be conflicted or understand their backstory or whatever. But then the story pulled back to remind me that there’s a structure of corruption and perversion that goes all the way to the adults at the top and these monster kids are going to inherit those top positions when their parents retire. Soooo life sucks. Thank you, Class of Lies. And thank you for making Moo-hyuk’s attempts to survive and thrive inside this hell-school too entertaining for me to drop this show.

 

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Level Up: What a delight this show is! Six episodes in we’re halfway through, and we’re just seeing the first hints of feelings from Dante towards Yeon-hwa (whereas she’s finally decided that he might be a not-bad person). I think what I love most about Sung Hoon is how little he cares about looking good on camera—he goes all in for the joke, even if it puts him on a ridiculous position. Dante seems pompous at first, but as we get to know him we see that he carefully regulates everything about his life in order to protect his heart—even his over-the-top sense of personal dignity is part of that armor. It’s also endlessly entertaining to watch the growing list of people who can pierce that armor and completely fluster him; first it was just Ya-chae, but now Yeon-hwa, Han-cheol and Hun can easily get under his skin, and Dante is like a little coastal town that can’t pile its sandbags quickly enough to ward off the flood. He’s a hard boss, but he isn’t unkind, and he never holds his employees to a standard he himself can’t meet (or exceed); his manners may be a little out of touch with the accepted social contract, but he has his own principles, and he sticks to them. (I wish Hun would finally see this and grow up.) This show is a rom-com, but it’s leaning much more heavily on the ensemble comedy than the romance, and it’s really working for me. (Danny Ahn is a gem as Manager Park.) And although the story doesn’t delve too deeply into backstory, we know enough about the characters’ personal lives to give them dimension and nuance. There’s a nice parallel, for example, in the ways that Yeon-hwa and Han-cheol got hired at Joybuster, or the significant role that games played in both Dante and Yeon-hwa’s childhoods, without it all feeling heavy-handed. I’m very excited to see Dante’s “damn it, I like this woman” face—and the fact that he’s honest to a fault means likely many embarrassing confessions for him, and lots of enjoyment for me.

Search Query WWW: What a perfect ending to an incredible show. I think what I love most about it is that it managed to upend conventional drama tropes so brilliantly that even calling it meta seems like a disservice. We got a relationship between three women that echoed all the major beats of a love triangle, which invested this set of girlfriends with more thrills, emotion and profundity than even the most intense bromance. And yet we still got three different, satisfying romances that were fully able to live and breathe, freed as they were from the tyranny of the 16-episode rom-com structure. (I usually love that K-dramas are only one season long, but I’m begging you here, Show: please give me Jin-woo and Ga-kyung’s act two.) In the end what I’ll remember is how real this show was about being a woman in your thirties; about love and heartbreak, grief and growing up; about loving what you do and maybe hating it at the same time; about the people who are by your side in the important moments, and also in the everyday moments. The people who become part of your daily life.

 
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Cricket - England Vs. Ireland - 1st day wow. 2nd oh 3rd day - oh no no no

Ashes is starting in August. England Vs. Australia.

From May to September Peak Months of Sports Entertainment.

JAPAN - 2 shows getting 8+ score from me. wow

Watashi teiji de Kaerimasu - I WON’T WORK OVERTIME - 8 out of 10

6 episodes worth watch. Takumi is so good as a boyfriend but it seems like Taneda san also wants to stand for Yui.

I DON’T Love you yet - 8 out of 10. I’ve watched The evolution of Our Love the Chinese make and enjoyed it and it was done well for Chinese audience. Similarly things are a bit changed for the Japanese Audience. I saw views of those who compared Chinese with Taiwanese. Overall, i’m with this Japanese Make and i think story is done better here. The only small issue is They haven’t properly showed the audience the profession of Hero.

Rike Koi - Science of Love - 7/10 - it was funny watch. Now wait for movie translation.

Bukatsu - Club Activities - 7/10 Reminds you of Shonen Jump’s Live-action

1 Page no Koi - 6/10 Typical relationships drama. Average acting. Ok watch

Coffee and Vanilla - 4/10 Stupid Heroine. I’m gonna drop this now.

Zero - only if it had better budget.

Who got SONY GEM TV?

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Coffee&Vanilla - the preview was enough for me to see that this show is not for me... or I'm too old 😆

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I said much about it last week. If anyone wants pull somene's here then this show provides your good reaction to do so.
Smut usually is Romance rape. There are dozens of manga out there where Guy imposes himself on Heroine and later(seconds,minutes days) she gives consent. Submissive women sell.

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I saw a couple of minutes of it and cringed inside...

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https://www.kyotokimonoyuzen.co.jp/minami_hamabe/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJMeFjnbcvo

Perfect Gift.

KAKEGURUI Season 2 - Awesome. Amazing. Highly Exciting.
Kakegurui Movie - did average on Theatre

Snow Flower - 4/10 - slow waste of a movie. Nothing original or interesting in it. why this Ayami Nakajo getting all these projects? - IDOL the answer. Acting is just for commoners.

KOREAN -

I hate Going to Work - 7/10 - only if they concentrated on office work. Show is quite funny and good but those episodic tagging employees episodes and all around dramatic scenes are the reason I have put down the rating.

Level Up - 6/10 started well. i was expecting usual kdrama romance nonsense and trash but 1st 4 episodes had less of it and then it started to rain. Better drop it.

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John - 4/10 This drama is trash. annoys you right away. Fool the audience. You can clearly see how much writer is trying hard to show this is a medical drama when its just the normal soap opera.

School - 3/10 You can't expect anything good from this trash. Nothing good to speak about it. School porn.

Golden Garden - 6/10 - Same old makjang soap opera.
Why watch it - Lee Sang Woo and Han Ji Hye after the Shall we Live Together.

The King of Avatar - 3/10 Gank your Heart and Go Go Squid has better start than this Garbage. That says where it stands. Dropped.
Gank Your Heart - almost dropped

Another Me - 4/10 usual Chinese youth cheap tricks. Dropped
The Way We Love - 6/10 - Taiwanese. has some comedy moments.

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Heaven - @helenacan https://gfycat.com/glitteringexhaustedattwatersprairiechicken

Hotel - 6/10 That was pun from Witch Who Remains Single for About 300 Years!
Writer trying hard to force romance on Audience. This is what makes Kdrama romance trash. Superficiality imposed on characters and portrayed as development. There is nothing organic about all these relationships. That's why i call them mating partners as romantic-partners/couples not suit any of them. Most Krom are elaborate hour long CM.'
Actress is selling clothes and makeup kit here.
Side stories are better than main story(if there is any) and characters(if they actually are).

Before We Get Married - I love you - lets do it.
Afternoon Affairs - As i said last week - Propped adultery.
Drama World thinks affairs = sex
That's why Opening of before and Posters of Affair have so much physical proximity.
Even This Week My Wife is having Affair - spent 1st 6 episodes solely on Sex.
I think this is just very ridiculous defination of an Affair.
Affair not necessarily need any physical action.
This just show the depth of Writers and where they are getting at.

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@catocat
Are you yet to start "Nagi's Long Vacation"?

Its probably the simplest production I have seen Haru Kuroki in. However the performances make this little drama so much more. There is just something about Haru Kuroki on screen - for me the best female actor of her age group.

P.S. After those dreamy postscript cooking segments in "Mi wo Tsukushi Ryoricho" I still dream of having her voice over my cooking.

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Search www - no time to watch the finale yet😕 I'm traveling and visiting friends and family. Will have to skip Beanies comments as I'm spoilerphobic 😧

Golden Garden - Lee Sang Woo in a very very blond wig. 😆 The rest is forgettable.

Level Up - Sung Hoon... and his deadpan delivery... and some jokes even make me laugh... 😆

Japanese In Time With You - the male lead is no Bolin Chen... but he is slowly growing on me... and I'm also falling for his voice 😍 (and OMG I realized that Jasper Liu was in the Taiwanese original!!!)

Before We Get Married (up to ep 8) - Wei wei is very disrespectful and unprofessional towards Ke Huan at work. Manipulative ex-girlfriend still awfully manipulative, should more concentrate on her own life and career. 321 has 0 priority for Wei Wei... and will soon be 0 in her life, I guess.

Hotel de Luna - the chemistry is on and off... but I'm still on 🙂 (...and did she kiss him to prevent the ghost to notice Chan Sung's breath? A very very original reason 😄)

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Saw youtube preview and That Crazy girlfriend is now joining them in the project. Such trash show and here few of us are still watching it.
Hero kissed two lipsticks than anything soft and human. I just don't get why wear heavy lipstick and ruin your own lips

Liptick reminded me of http://www.dramabeans.com/2016/09/open-thread-467/#comment-2477155
Someone was talking about Lipstick and your comment reminded me of those hideous lips.

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Hotel of the Moon / IU Fashion Show: A/A-: Error 404 exorcist/astronaut not found :)

Watcher: C/B: Mysteries like this are better to binge so you don't forget the complications. And if I watch too many shows at once, I get confused which clue last week went with which show. Anyway the mysteries I care about are -- where's the other half of the ping-pong table and why aren't they using it like nature intended?

Doctor John: B/C+: Another arrogant geeenius. I hate those; sticking around mostly for the zombie from Hwayugi.

Moment of 18: C/B: Sigh. I was hoping for another Queen's Classroom. Because Kim Hyang-gi. But all we got was stale old false-accusation garbage. And what's with k-school shows and false accusations? QC & School 2015 did that too, but they waited a bit and set it up better.

Designated Survivor: B+/?: The "how good it was" might be anywhere from "A" to "F" depending on what explanation they give for why [spoiler] confessed to [redacted]. And how did the FL end up at her friend's place instead of in jail or dead after her close encounter with ToD?

Doctor Detective: B/B: I could stand more medical mysteries and less tear-jerky mother-daughter separation & corporate conspiracy.

Investigative Couple / Partners for Justice: B++/B: Dead fish makes up for a lot :)

Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung: A-/A-: Rarely will a writer give 2 minor supporting characters such good stuff. If you are watching you know who I mean.

Justice & Class of Lies: dropped.

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I like your Error 404. LOL.

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Dead Fish, 😂, so true.

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Error 404 indeed- not sure what purpose the references to the astronaut and the exorcist even served. But it is still a wonderful show.

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Yes, Laica, Danny Ahn is a gem!!!

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I perk up every time he comes on screen. He is such a hoot!!

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HOTEL LUNA: So far so good but more depth in the featured guest ghost stories.

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A Moment at Eighteen: I can't say I'm not disappointed that the focus is all on Ong Seung-woo right now, and not national treasure Kim Hyang-gi, but it was a solid premiere.

Doctor Detective: Last week, I described this drama as "familiar but vitally important", and I'd like to expand on that with another two episodes under my belt. This is by no means a perfect show, a hidden masterpiece that is somehow flying under the radar (although the latter is true, I noticed last week that barely anyone is watching). The plot is often very confusing. However, any show standing up for workers' rights is one we need, and I'm really enjoying it so far.

Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung: It was pretty difficult to watch this week, with the treatment of our hopeful new historians bordering on sadistic, but I still find it hugely charming. The romance seems a little tacked on at the moment, so maybe Hae-ryung's discovery will bring the two halves of her busy life closer together.

Doctor Yo-han: This drama is mental, but so much fun. As long as the cases are interesting and the characters cute (I need waaaay more of Dr. Lee Yoo-joon) I'm down for this.

Designated Survivor: I picked this up on a whim last week, and boy was the first episode engrossing! I hope it stays this compelling.

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Yes, that PSA at the end of episode 2 was really important. I had no idea that is how workers cleaned and fixed the subway doors. So I am here for worker's rights too.

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Oh I know! Discovering that Kwak Dong-yeon's character was based on a real person has me in tears.

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Thank you, that's really thoughtful! ❤️

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Investigation Couple 2 I'm behind. The wifi of my hotels were not so good so I had to make choices.

A Moment at Eighteen Passive character like that can be very exhausting to watch, so please wake up now!

Designated Survivor: 60 Days Son Suk Goo as Cha Young Jin is the best reason to watch it!

Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung Like I already said, I don't really care about the ML, but I love the Crown Prince and the historian! Shin Se Kyung is doint a good job as Goo Hae Ryung, I really like her character and all these women fighting for their rights.

Doctor Detective I'm behind.

Class of Lies Powerful people are scary. It's frustrating to see teenager with so much power. Mr Temp has a lot of work to do, I'm expecting him to be more decisive.

Search Query: WWW The last scene was the best of all the drama!

Watcher Grey characters are so interesting!

Hotel del Luna This drama is magic :)

Level Up It's a typical drama but Sung Hoon always is the best in this kind of role. I'm happy to see Han Bo Reum in this role, she was so obnoxious in Memories of Alhambra.

Go Go Squid I'm just watching it for the male lead :p

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SSK as CYJ is fantastic in Designated Survivor. Probably my favourite character. He's my great discovery this season. But I enjoy the dodgy OYS played by LJH as well.

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I just don't know why everyone sees junwoo as a PASSIVE CHARACTER ...come on guys...The charcterisations are deeper than to be discribed in just one word!..he is not PASSIVE.. he can defend himself...but he DOESNT WANT TO ...because he doesn't CARE about people acusing him of doing things like that and what people think of him..Even if you haven't watched the show deeply ,it was obvious that he could actually defend himself..It's not about the plot ...It's about the characters and deals of girls and boys at EIGHTEEN...I just can't understand why everyone is so crazy for plot centred dramas..

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The fact he decided to not defense himself makes him as a passive person. He took the decision but it doesn't change he did nothing. He's smart, he sees a lot of things, he understands a lot too but he chose to be invisible. I have nothing against stories based on how characters react to the situations like One Spring Night. But I need them to react... I guess in the future episodes he will choose to be more proactive.

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"Go Go Squid I'm just watching it for the male lead :p"

Yes! Plus the gamers and the bromances between the older male gamers. I wish the show didn't even have that romance in it, but was all about Gun, the boys he coaches, and his relationships with prior team mates and competitors.

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Yes, I like see him interacting with people like his kids, his grandfather, Little Ai, his friends and his girlfriend. I don't care about the FL because her character doesn't seem to have her own story.

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Trying to go through Search: WWW withdrawal syndrome. So glad that they released OST album on spotify and I can listen to "Millennial Love" nonstop now. Many people will appreciate "What's wrong with my mother in law" song I guess. 😄

Agree and love everything you said about it, Laica, especially the part you said about the show being real about being a woman in their thirties. I told my husband about Ta-mi and Mo-gun's relationship, and he said, "Sounds too real". ^^

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Designated Survivor: 60 Days: So who is part of the conspiracy from the Blue House?

Doctor John: I'm finding Ji Sung rather sexy in this role. Now that they are out of prison, I'm getting House vibes which I like.

Watcher: Young Goon is being used by everyone. His father is kind of scary, but I don’t think he killed his wife.. Do Chi-Gwang is shady, but I don’t think he’s the villain.

Search: WWW: It’s over. Sniff. I really enjoyed the finale – well, maybe not Ta-mi starting the same cycle over again but at least Ta-mi didn’t change her mind about marriage – and the three women kicking ass. The three women driving off in the Maserati was the perfect ending. All three women were strong and interesting, but I think Song Ga-Kyung had my favorite character arc. I’m looking forward to future offerings from the writer.

A Moment at Eighteen: I wasn’t completely sold by the first two episodess, but I like youth dramas and it has potential.

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www: this was unexpectedly such a refreshing premise with great females on the forefront and their relationship with each other as well as really nice side romances (couldn’t feel for tami and Morgan tho). I enjoyed this one on a weekly basis and am genuinely sad to see it go.

love affairs in the afternoon: my guilty pleasure and my currently airing favourite. I can see this one going up in flames once all the dirty secrets are out but until then I’m gonna enjoy Lee Sang Yeob and Park ha Sun’s cute chemistry and Ye Ji won and Jo Dong Hyuk’s sizzling one 💕

Angel’s last mission: this was such a gripping and heart wrenching watch thanks to Shin Hye sun’s killer performance. Her chemistry with L was surprisingly great. The last few episodes were a little draggy and quite theatrical for my liking but I’m glad all those tears that the characters spilt was worth their happy ending

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ANGEL'S LAST MISSION was a very good show (thanks to the world class performance of Shin Hye-sun) but it could have been a truly great show if the writer had not been so confused about the what world view to present: The fantasy world view of GOBLIN or a Judeo-Christian one. Example: The idea that angel's are not supposed to interfere with humans runs squarely against the biblical depiction of angels- who never appear UNLESS it is to announce something or to do something.

Even so, some criticisms of the writing in ANGEL'S LAST MISSION were unfair For instance the idea that the happy ending was tacked on as a fan service is simply not true. All through the drama the writer was supplying the elements which made the happy ending possible. Above all the simple fact that it was possible for an angel to become human was introduced early and in fact our lead characters spent much of the last episodes looking for a way to make that happen- which it finally does through an act of divine grace.

I really enjoyed ANGEL'S LAST MISSION not least because I was so grateful that Shin Hye-sun was finally being dressed in a way that showed her great beauty, even as it also gave her full scope to show her acting skills. She was already one of my very favorite actresses and this show only served to increase my admiration for her.

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Yes I’ve always liked shin hye sun even from her supporting role days but didn’t know she was this good. I’m so glad for this show that showed her range

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I'm at ep 4 of love affairs in the afternoon. Liking it so far.

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It’s so gripping and melo and makes you want more episodes. Enjoy the rest of the episodes

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Watching 'affairs' drama makes me question so many things. but too 'busy' to put it into words. So i came out here searching for other people's thoughts.

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Yes, Search Query : WWW ends satisfyingly and magnificently. This is a show in which the work storylines are at least as interesting as the romances. For me, they're even more exciting than the Tami - Morgan romance. The issues are real and they handle them very nicely.

I, too, want a bit more on the Gagyeong ' Jinwoo after-divorce romance, but the ending is good enough.

All in all a good drama with good writing and acting from the ensemble cast. 👍❤

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Park ha seon the virgin mary is making all those magical scenes more ridiculous. It would have been more enjoyable If it was generic kdrama romance but now she's on angel's mission to correct her life the wrong way.

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Agree with Mary, The kids in Class of Lies are truly satan's spawns. The school need to hire Park Il-do to be home teacher. Maybe he could be successful to control them.
Everything you said about WWW Laica. Take out that bizzarre queer baiting in the early episodes, to me WWW is a perfect drama.

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LOL I didn't think of that, but yeah, an exorcism is exactly what this school needs.

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@manohira,
ROFLMAO at your "The school need to hire Park Il-do to be home teacher." I love it! That may be the best way yet of ensuring that Park Il-do stays out in the East Sea. ;-)

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Those kids will make him busy. They are the most evil kids I've ever seen on TV. But very smart too. At that age they already know how to form cartel and make use of the class system in their school to their advantage.

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Happy weekend, Beanies! I started work a month ago and it's a busy period, so I'm in a bit of a drama lull. I'm slowly making my way through Lingerie Girls' Generation/ Girls Generation 1979, a gem I remember some of you liking!

The blossoming friendship between Jung-hee and Hae-joo is so cute I'm pretty sure I was grinning like the Cheshire Cat at my phone on the train. But I also want to yell "mouth to mouth resuscitation is NOT ROMANTIC".

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@purpleteapot

"mouth to mouth resuscitation is NOT ROMANTIC".....

True that :D

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Not much drama watching despite having a lull in my work.
Have watched 2 eps of Rookie Historian
Watched some of the first ep of the J version of Memory
Watched first couple moments of C Drama of Novoland:Eagle Flag
Last week I Watched 4 episodes or so of Shining Inheritance

Most of the week I watched YouTube videos of “magnet fishers” . Folks use magnets to probe waterways to see what they can find 🤔
There is a fellow that lives in England. He fishes the canal systems over there and it’s amazing what they find. I just wish I could decipher his accent a bit better , as I miss half of what he says 😂

So anyways I have a magnet on order. I live in a area crisscrossed with rivers, ponds, lakes, both urban and rural. The urban waterways turn up the most stuff. That seems to be true no matter what country you are in.

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that sounds like a fun new hobby! looking forward to your posts about what you find in those waters!
*fighting*

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I've watched 8 episodes of Novoland. I might keep watching but it's not really grabbing me anymore. I don't know the story though and this is one case I'd like to know more in advance so to decide whether to keep watching. I quite like the Prince but not the other male lead. Your thoughts?

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I only watched the first few minutes of Ep 1😔

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Oh Mary! I so agree with DS60! I really do hope they catch him fast but damn he’s one good looking villain!

Still can’t bring myself to finish One Spring Night and Angel’s Last Mission and here I am thinking of what drama to start next since WWW is done and I’m gonna miss the Puppy and these awesome women!

DS60 I’m not sure the drama will have a romance between Chief Sec and Ms. Jeong but the chemistry is there!

Hotel Del Luna Can we have more of Captain? Also, YJG looks more relaxed this week compared to the first two eps

There’s A LOT of dramas that started last week and this week that I have no idea which one to start. Hopefully something will catch my attention this week and also finish the dramas I put on hold

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Rookie Historian has awesome ladies! Come check it out~~~

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Oooohhh I’ll check it out~

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Seconded.

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Finish ANGEL'S LAST MISSION. The ending is not as illogical nor arbitrary nor as slapped together as many people have thought- all the elements needed for the final resolution were presented throughout the show and, in retrospect, was clearly what the writer was aiming for from the beginning.

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Alright! I’ll definitely finish these two dramas

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I really enjoyed the final episode and appreciated the ending, which I think was appropriate. All in all, it was a heartfelt show, with wonderful performances and I especially loved the beautiful writing (dialogs).

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Happy weekend, Beanies! I am still all over the map, viewing-wise. First, the tdrama Before We Get Married just keeps getting better. I really feel for the OTP.
I'm also watching the dorama Gisou Furin- a lovely combo of pathos and pratfall humor with an ugly duckling at the center. For kdramas, Designated Survivor has me on lockdown....couldn't quit if I wanted!
(Sadly, its a Goodbye to Hotel Luna)

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Ha! Now here's an idea. I'm not dropping HDL, but I might drop the Del or the de la or whatever it is in the middle and just start calling it Hotel Luna like you did. :D

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Agree with you on TW Drama Before We Get Married.I am loving this drama, and can't wait to see what happens next. Ep 9 love scene between the leads was an amazing piece of filmmaking-kudos to the director and both actors! I felt the passion and the tenderness, a rare combo to pull off successfully. One of the best bed scenes ever.

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Investigation Couple 2: Though its vibe is a little different from season 1, I'm still enjoying season 2. Oh Man Seok is doing an excellent job with his character.
Hotel del Luna: Loving the fashion parade and the drama.

Go, Go, Squid: Picked this Chinese drama up on a whim. FL has a warmth that I always appreciate. I've seen the ML in a couple of shows and enjoy it when he is allowed to smile and tease. Oddly enough, I have been low-key bugged by nearly everyone's wardrobe. I'm finding the oversized look frustrating. Also, I realize that K&K is a pro e-sport team, but must they all advertise it 24/7 in dominating black and white? I need variety of color, people! Lastly, ML needs to wear a suit (fitted!) more often. I am a sucker for a good suit.

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Speaking of low key bugged - I don’t have OCD (.... at least I think I don’t), but this drama gave me full-on OCD for people wearing outdoor shoes in their own house! I didn’t know this was a big issue to me. Stepping all over the nice carpeted floor or the beautiful laminated floor in their outdoor shoes. Why oh why would you do to this to your own house!? I cannot get it out of my brain how much germs, dirt, and other unwanted, unhealthy stuff you’re bringing to your place of comfort by walking in your outdoor shoes.

Everyone, please do not do this at your home. Respect your and someone else’s place of comfort..

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Sigh didn’t finish my sentence again before hitting send. 😪

Respect your and someone else’s place of comfort by taking off your outdoor shoes and use slippers/indoor shoes.

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Dramabeans would benefit from having a preview button.

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Yes please! If edit button is a no no at least preview button. My fingers work faster than my brain 😅 They can be everywhere on my phone screen too that I can just easily hit send just like that

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Each to their own...but this made me smile. How does this hold if you have dogs?

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I couldn't imagine taking off my shoes at someone else house. Only happens if it is someone I'm super close to and not at the front door.

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Ohhh.... hmmm? Is this a cultural difference then? In Canada, you must take off your shoes and leave them by the door before entering into someone’s/your house. The owner of the house wouldn’t allow you to step all over their house in your outdoor shoes; God knows what you’ve stepped on. It’s very rude and imposing for the guests to do this.

I’ve seen in Korean dramas do this as well. Guests are either using the owner’s indoor slippers or in their socks.

In Japan too - I know this from experience. Am half Japanese.

Tbrh I’ve never been in a household where it is okay walk in your shoes. 🤔

This is really an interesting difference.

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I guess. I didnt realize Canadians did this. I'm in the States and I'd never take my shoes off unless the home owner preferred it that way and that would be an out of the norm request.
Now I'm curious about how many cultures do this. I knew Japan and Korea.

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@bcampbell1662 Ah, that is right. I’ve never been to an American household. Hotels are my go-to places whenever I visit the US.

Again, really interesting difference - I’m really disturbed by this thought, but the thought of taking off shoes is revolting to you! 😆

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@bcampbell1662, in this respect Central Europe is similar to Canada.

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@13infamyss
It's not revolting to me...I'm dying 😂🤣🤣
I usually take my own shoes off as soon as I get home, for comfort. But if I'm going to leave again I leave them on.🤷‍♀️
But if say my neighbor invited me in or I my boss invited to dinner they'd probably look at me strange if I just took off my shoes in their doorway and walked around in my socks or bare feet. Or if I randomly pulled slippers out of my purse.

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@bcampbell1662 oh uhm wow! In Japan, it is customary for owners to have spare slippers for their guests. My grandmom has a collection of them!

In Canada, I believe most household would have spare slippers for their guest, if not, that’s totally fine too. We do not carry around slippers in our purses when visiting homes, but it’s totally normal (and the “right” thing to do) to walk in someone’s house with your socks on or barefooted. Same case when bosses invited us over to their place for bbq or team building events. This rarely happens (bosses hosting events at their home) but yep, walking barefooted or with socks on is the norm! 😁😄

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I live in US. In my household, everyone has to take their shoes off, leave them by the front door or garage. People who want to get in the house (pest control technician, etc) or friends have to take their shoes off (or wear cover shoes/booties). I feel icky seeing people sleep on their bed with their shoes on. I dont think this is OCD, it's just a habit :)

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@bellamafia I'm just being nosy and curious , but growing up where you are was it a family thing and did your school friends do the same?

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yes, hawaii doesn't allow shoes in the house, fyi.

we live in the states and our house is a shoes-off house as are most of our asian friends' houses. use visual cues upon entering anyone's house - it isn't impolite to ask "should i remove my shoes?".

i appreciate how in seattle, all of the service technicians (cable, phone, plumber, etc) will cover their shoes with those blue shower cap looking things!

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Taking off your shoes is not a normal practice in the US, usually there is a doormat at the entrance where one would clean their shoes before entering a home. That being said I am of Japanese descent so I always change my outdoor shoes to slippers at home. I have had visitors ask if they should take their shoes off before entering.

BTW, I had the same thought about the all black on Go Go Squid, though find the ML to be very attractive with that “stern/don’t give me any lip” look of his. Quite different from the norm.

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@beverly, no, it's not a family thing (or probably half of it). I remember my friends can go around the house with their shoes on but not to our bedrooms.

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I'm finding this discussion fascinating. In my experience taking off your shoes is more of an eastern thing. I didn't know it was common in Canada. In the US some repair people etc. may get cross or even refuse if they are asked to take off their shoes. In Australia people may even walk barefoot in the streets or grocery stores so they usually take off their shoes as soon as they get home but not everybody wears house slippers (walking barefoot even in the house was a big no when we were growing up!).

Taking it back to kdramas what I find strange is everyone wears the same one size slippers at home, be it man, woman or child. What I am used to is everyone wears one that fits their size and styles would also be different. You can have some for guests too but you would have male and female ones. I laugh every time I see a poor kid in a drama with oversized adult slippers.

What I find stranger though is people wearing slippers in hospitals in kdramas. Where do they even take off and keep their shoes?

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Not wearing shoes in the house (as I am used to it from my years of living in the US) but laying on bed or a sofa with shoes on is what drives me nuts in American shows.

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I don't think you can speak for all Canadians, we're just so multicultural. I'm older and I remember a time when no one took their shoes off and asking someone to do so was rude. In some parts of the country that is still the case. It was the influence of the east, particularly Japanese, that changed that - it just makes sense and is good manners to take off your shoes. But I actually don't care much if someone doesnt. If someone is just running in for a minute, then asking them to remove shoes inconveniences them, so that would be rude of me to ask. I know people with lots of animals and the first thing they'll say is leave your shoes on - to protect yourself from animal hair! For the most part, if you're not dealing with an Asian descent family where leaving shoes on is culturally deviant, good manners and common sense are the norm. Mostly, guests try to be alert to the preference of their hosts. I will also mention I have never once been offered slippers in any house even in my Asian-Canadian friends' homes.

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@moonbean I find it so interesting. I didnt realize that in India that you take your shoes off either until Beanies told me.
In Australia you can go into stores without shoes?
And yes those one size fits all slippers, lol. I am not sure my wide feet would fit in them.

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@bcampbell1662 Australia has such a beach and outdoor culture, yet it still surprises me when that barefoot on the beach spills over to the sidewalks, asphalt roads, grocery stores etc. I have seen barefoot people in the oddest places. I had shared my observations with my family, when they came to visit me last summer despite having heard about it my dad was surprised to see barefoot people on the streets on Day 1. Some places would have shirts and shoes required type signs but generally noone bats an eyelash to see barefoot people in the streets or some stores.

In my experience, knowledge and observation you take your shoes off from Middle East to Far East. Initially I thought this was a Moslem thing but realized it's an Eastern thing when I learned that the same custom existed in Korea, Japan etc. Now I'm hearing it's done even in eastern Europe.

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@barbrey I guess it’s not 100% a tradition, but I have never once heard it is totally okay to leave shoes on in someone’s house. Having friends and relatives across the country and I used to meet clients at their house, taking off shoes is customary.

I can’t imagine what it’s like in the winter and you walk with boots on all over your house. Plus when you have your floor carpeted from wall to wall 😖

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Anyways beanies this difference have really piqued my interest now, so I’ve looked it up and here is a list of different countries’ traditions on shoes etiquette at home

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradition_of_removing_shoes_in_home

It’s wiki I know but I think it’s close to what’s norm in one’s culture.

I guess what I wrote above was purely speaking from my own experience with friends, family, coworkers, and clients. So I had to google what netizens across Canada think and majority do take off their shoes. Not 100%, but it’s close to second nature for us to do so.

https://www.google.com/search?q=taking+off+shoes+at+home+canada&rlz=1CDGOYI_enCA829CA829&oq=taking+o&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i60l2j0.6668j1j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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This is why I mentioned I'm older because I do still have friends in Canada who tell you to keep your shoes on. It's not the norm but it used to be - it changed in the last 30 years. But I agree the default is to take them off nowadays. I just don't think it as rigid a rule as in some Asian and European households because it is relatively new and there are still Canadians who scoff at it, likely the same ones who won't wear a seatbelt despite the law lol.

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I live in Germany. Here, we take off the shoes before entering into any home

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I thought it was pretty standard in Asia to take off your shoes inside the house. That's not the case in the US but I do know some Caucasian families who do take off their shoes inside.

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@KeikoAnn. Oh I think the ML in all of his stern glory is attractive as well. I just also like it when the poor, verbally-abused guy is enjoying life and Little Squid.

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Spain is on the shoes-on camp. Like @keiko says, there is usually a doormat where people wipe off their soles, and that's about it. We would normally wear slippers at home, but that's about comfort rather than germs. It would be extremely weird to be asked to wear slippers or be barefoot at someone else's house. I guess we don't trust people's bare feet that much either :-)))

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Now I dont feel so alone, lol. I'd never realized how many cultures practiced the no shoes way.

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on Korean Airlines all passengers get these wonderful "overnight" kits that contain a toothbrush, toothpaste, comb and YES, even disposable SLIPPERS!! i immediately took off my shoes upon boarding in seattle enroute to seoul -- and i kept all my family's slippers that they didn't use to bring home!

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LOL. Turkish Airlines packs have the disposable slippers as well. We got two pairs on our trip couple of weeks ago.

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@spazmo - now that you mentioned it, United Airlines back in the 90’s provided “kits” with slippers on my flight from US to UK.

This has been a interesting/informative topic, “one of the who would have thought?”. Drama Beans is such a great site to participate in. Thank you @13infamyss for bringing it up.

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It seems to be a cultural thing, I come from a Central European country where NOT taking your shoes off is highly impolite... and married and live in a Western European country, where asking visitors to take the shoes off IS very impolite (seems showing your socks is like showing your underwear 😆). So... we change shoes to slippers at home... and let the guests chose what the are comfy with 🙂 (and yes, we have a box with guest slippers in the income hall).

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I think the ML looks fantastically sexy in his black clothes. Just watched the episode where he dons a white shirt and black suit, with tie, to visit the childish FL's parents, and he actually looked less sexy in the suit. But Li Xian is still the main reason I'm watching the show.

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Designated Survivor: 60 Days
If that scandal turns out to be anything related to Moo Jin’s family, well, I’ll definitely have to take a few points off from the show since that is really a lazy writing of an obstacle for the acting presidency. As more moles are revealed to us, I believe that if Moo Jin himself still wishes to relinquish the presidency after the 60 days (I loved how his wife is able to read between the lines and interpret the unsaid), he’ll definitely have to look around hard since there is no one without any skeletons in their closets: politicians like Yun are too self-serving whereas revolutionaries like Oh are too idealistic.

A Moment at Eighteen
Whenever I encounter characters like Hwi Young in a youth drama, I do get conflicted over how much sympathy & pity I should feel for them. He tramples on Joon Woo since he is an easy target (as opposed to someone like Sang Hoon who he can’t touch due to his academic and physical superiority) and has even colluded with Ki Tae to gang up on him, yet at home he faces SKY Castle levels of stress which certainly explains the inferiority complex he has. I find the setup pretty generic so far with Joon Woo’s tragic past but I guess that formula does work for a coming-of-age drama.

Search Query: WWW
I feel kind of mixed about the finale. It was certainly great to see the mother-in-law get taken down by the power of the Internet (which was a very nice return to the starting point of the show itself) though it was very sudden to see ex-CEO Na suddenly align herself with Ka Kyung. On the flip side, I think the conclusion of the romances left a lot to be desired, whether it be the reconnection of the main leads for the happy ending or time-skipping of the army issue for Ji Hwan. I did however enjoy the drama very much as a whole with the three mighty woman and the tightly-knit TF team at Barro.

Hotel del Luna
It was a pleasant surprise to find out that Chan Sung’s dreams were actually purposefully planted by God Mago rather than some awakening of past life memories: I believe he was viewing Man Wol’s past life from a omniscient perspective as opposed to him reliving Chung Myung’s life. Maybe we can’t discard the reincarnation theories totally yet, but this is a nice direction to proceed in. I must say however that it was disappointing to see how quickly all the hotel staff turned against Chan Sung: Man Wol leaving and them being able to remain in the hotel doesn’t seem to be mutually exclusive.

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C-drama Novoland East Flag:
My sns were flooded by stunning pics of the landscape, costumes, CGI and general aesthetics of the drama, so i shyly (it's my first c-drama and i was convinced i could never liked them) tried the first episode and got hooked immediately on it.
I'm 4 episodes in and watching them one by one preciously to slow time, in the fear that its quality will suddenly drop. The first two episodes were lacking character development but it's been fixed after episode 3 and now i feel time flows away: i've barely started that the episode is already over!
I'm completely in love: it looks like the chinese answer to Lord of The Rings, mixed of course with chinese mythology and filmed with a blockbuster budget.
The scale is not your everyday drama and it's dark, tragic and epic and perfect for me right now.

J-drama Lupin No Musume:
I picked this one for the fast subs (it's on Viu) but i don't know what to make of it after two episodes.
It's not an adaptation but a literal transcription on screen of the anime or the manga where the character act with all the quirkiness they have on paper. Nothing is credible or realistic and the characters are very much stereotypes, but there's still something strangely cute and endearing about the ensemble.
I think the charm comes essentially from the chemistry between the cast which is superb.
It's pure candy: only to make you feel good in the moment and to forget quickly.

K-drama Alone in love:
I'm relieved: the drama briefly touched the subject of the loss of their children (it's not clear how far her pregnancy went :did she give birth?) but moved on quickly (all the films, dramas and books that i tried lately had a story about the loss of a child lately, so i can't anymore).
The leads got ride of the annoying secondary romantic interests which is something i welcome, and they now face the fact that they clearly won't move on with anyone else, so what do they do with their relationship?
The slow pace and atmosphere are perfect: it's like being in a cozy and calm cocoon, a refuge far away from the bustle of the world. It's so calm and soothing and relaxing.
I feel like i dive in water with each new episode just in like in this beautiful scene where Eun Ho was swimming alone at night, after the pool closed to the public with only the light from the moon to shine on her.

K-drama Watcher: EP 5/6 were the best of the drama. So well written, directed and acted that if i start to list all what i liked, i would mention every scene.
But even among all this excellence, there was still place for one thing to stand out the most: the performance of Han Suk Kyu who stole the drama and ran away with it this time. His last scene whe he was staring at himself in this large mirror with a gun in his hand was the darkest and the most moving moment on the drama.
Such a cool and haunting shot which suits perfectly this tortured character and his mysterious...

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Such a cool and haunting shot which suits perfectly this tortured character and his mysterious storyline.
Still my favourite drama currently airing!

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Kyoko Fukada so feminine doing hilarious action scenes makes it fun. Its the type of show that makes you loudly think what did for i watched it. real time fast food.

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One minute she looks like a total Mary Sue with her "librarian mousy look" and suddenly she transformed in a feline and athletic fighter!
A total nonsense but it works on the don't pay attention the plot, just enjoy the ride" level.
I really like her family too! Her parents are endearing with their silly posh style hiding true vigilantes at heart, and her grand-mother is priceless.
The theft with the fake mirror technique was hilarious!

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@coolgirl,
I just checked my notes on ALONE IN LOVE. I think it was a late-term miscarriage or a stillbirth. In any event, baby Dong-yi did not make it.

I, too, appreciated the deliberate pace of the drama. It was contemplative. Luckily it also had some humor to lighten the atmosphere, which would have been suffocating without it.

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Thank you for your answer! It seems to me like that too.
What I can't still understand now is their reactions.
I know that miscarriages could be a very difficult time (my sister got a traumatic one: she got through surgery and had to stop working few weeks) but it's not like losing a child who was born (it happened to a another close relative few days after she gave birth).

If it was stillbirth, the shock is certainly bigger but most of couples would still try to get another child.
In this case, their love was real and strong since it was resistant to the divorce: they never stopped to see each other even during the legal separation.
So i really wonder what else could have break them apart.
Contemplative is the right word.:)
It's an atmosphere difficult to catch in a drama without making the story boring but in Alone in Love, it works perfectly.

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@coolgirl,
You're most welcome! ;-)

In order to understand the parents’ reactions to the death of their child, you have to keep watching. I don’t want to spoil the reveal. Just know that it will answer your questions, and it will make perfect sense. You may even facepalm when you finally hear it, because she has articulated the issue. But you’ll never guess the twist. ;-)

Regarding reactions to the death, miscarriage, or stillbirth of offspring, it all depends upon the individuals involved, and the circumstances. In real life, death is still a taboo subject in various places and cultures. And even in settings where it is not, it remains a subject that is not to be broached lightly or out of idle curiosity.

According to the doctor, my youngest sibling was stillborn, but looked perfectly formed and was near full-term, from what I've heard. I finally spoke with my Dad about the subject a year or so ago – nearly 60 years after the fact. Mom developed Alzheimer's and died before I worked up the courage to ask her exactly what had happened. When Dad decided that he wanted little sis's name engraved on the family tombstone, I finally had an opening to talk with him about it. As a little kid, I only knew that Mom was sick and in the hospital, and that both our grandmothers took turns coming from out of town to take care of me and my dongsaengs.

Mr. P. also lost a dongsaeng back then. Years later, his family moved to another city. As my mother-in-law’s own death from an inoperable brain tumor approached, I got the sense that she had “unfinished business” that was weighing on her. She wanted her baby’s remains in the infant cemetery in their old city moved to the family plot in her hometown that would be her final resting place. God bless the funeral directors and cemetery staffers who collaborated to give my mother-in-law her final wish. It was a tremendous relief for her to know that she would be united with her child’s remains, which were now interred with the extended family.

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Thank you for the tip about the futur twist!
I will keep that in mind and stay patient with more serenity, now that i know it will make sense !:)

What poignant experiences and memories woman in your family have lived and kept!
Your mother in law's desire to be reunited with her infant brought me to tears to be honest.
Indeed, it's very different from one family to the other and even more between distinct cultures.
In my family, my parents generation were living in difficult times, so losing children though a very sad moment was quite expected. Mothers were pressured to move on quickly and not react in a traumatic way.
Miscarriages and stillbirth were talked openly to help this process.
Today, it's more accepted that every woman is different.
But Motherhood is so often associated with positive feelings that those haunting experiences are still often overlooked.
That's why I'm even more glad that you have been able to clear this family "secret" with your father at least, and i hope that you feel better about it.
Thanks a lot for sharing for those personal stories. It was very insightful to understand this question from a another point of view.

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I love the fact that you keep notes while watching dramas! Great idea! I have spent hours trying to find a line or scene in a drama I’ve previously or am currently watching. I’ve also “started over” after 4 or 5 episodes in dramas that have multiple characters and/ or complex political plots and/or recurring symbolism that isn’t always easily noticed with one viewing (particularly as I am also reading subtitles as I watch a scene).

Taking notes sounds like it would save me a lot of time!

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@vespertyne,

I discussed my Kdrama logging methods and philosophy recently with a couple of Beanies. The following post has some prefatory remarks, with a pointer to the thread that started it all (which contains 3 long posts). For your consideration:

http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/07/open-thread-611/#comment-3486979

I hope it gives you useful ideas for maximizing your Kdrama-watching enjoyment. ;-)

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Investigation Couple 2: We only had one episode this week but the the finale is looking to be a fantastic doozy. I am excited. All of our players are finally converging. No cliffhangers this time show.

A Moment at Eighteen: What a lovely drama. I am liking the teacher student relationship starting to form between our favorite Samchoon Kang Ki Young (Weightlifting Fairy) and our young hero Ong Seong Woo. I hope we grow up with our trio and learn to be better.

Designated Survivor 60 Days: Aren't we just in a bind? Our Minister of Justice is not so into justice. Yikes. Here is Assembly Man Oh slowly and handsomely getting to his goal and we don't know what it is. The President is ignorant but suspicious. And Agent Han is being hurt and saved. Her boss is in prison. When will Agent Han and the President meet? So many questions and it's only day 42.

Justice: Lee Tae Kyung is not a good person. Yesss. They still haven't clarified his background with Seon Yeo Na, but they seemed to have been either a couple or one sided love. Chairman Song also not a good person. (Meh, he is the villain) So we are finally getting to some meat. Seo Yeo Na seems to slowly be unraveling the mystery of Tae Kyung's brother's death, the dead trains, and Bum Jung, but needs helps. Whether Tae Kyung helps her or not seems to the underlying mystery in the show. He doesn't seem inclined too, maybe because he is accessory to murder or maybe because he is a hypocrite. Hmmm. Sidenote: The transitions on the show are awful, It always takes me several seconds to figure out that they are doing a flashback.

Doctor Detective: Wow wow wow. Dr. Joong Eun is just trying to live. Why won't they let her. They are her ex, his father, and the psychopathic Chaebol minions. Every time she sees her daughter it is heartbreaking and I cry (Reminded of American border). What awful people. Kwak Do Hyeon's presence is felt so surely, I reiterate what a talent he is. The actress who plays his mother(cannot remember her name) is doing an excellent job. Heo Min Ki is my favorite though. His exuberance and crazy is my kind of thing.

Class of Lies: Why are there so many bad people in this drama. The perverted disgusting higher Ups, the sycophantic teachers, the nasty nasty rich kid bullies, and the entire system fighting to keep certain kids at the top. It's disturbing and sad. Hopefully our two teacher heroes take them down because it is super creepy.

Search Query WWW: 😭😭😭😭😭😭, what a great ending. I am so sad it is gone. It was so fabulous. Cheers to Bae Ta Mi, Cha Hyeon, and Song Ga Kyung. I loved that her sisters and arms came and saved her at the end. She smiled and looked happy and free. Just wonderful. Cha Hyeon's excitement at her boyfriend coming to see her in the movie theater gave me my whole life. It was such a genuine shriek of excitement, her escandolo request for 4 days of vacation with the smirk was so funny. I will genuinely miss her as a character. As for Bae...

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I'm waiting for the final episode of Justice, because after watching the first 3 episodes, I got the feeling that it was going to be somewhat like Kill It, but with a more clearly defined, evil protagonist, and so the ML will get killed off. If he did murder the drunk driver who killed his brother, which appears to be the case, then I don't think any type of moral epiphany is going to save him. Anyway, it wasn't a show I wanted to continue watching, because I really like Choi Jin-hyuk, and I'm not into watching a show where he is evil and gets killed off after he becomes a better guy.

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Crap, I don't want to give a spoiler, but hopefully this is not, he doesn't kill the guy Chairman Song does, he is just an accessory because he is there and beat the hell out of them. I don't remember if this happens in episode 3 or 4. However to your point, I'm not sure he is going to get a redemption arc. I think he will be punished, but it might just be prison rather than death. It'll be interesting to see.

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I’ll look for your comments when it’s done, to see if I want to subject myself to what looks like a bad ending. I never finished Kill It because of the ending. And He is Psychometric is another that disappointed me. I want my anti-heroes (my favorite literary and drama characters) to have satisfying redemption arcs and satisfactory endings. Death doesn’t do it for me, except in a rare case, like NiF, where the hero’s ultimate fate was an integral part of the story from the beginning. (And even knowing the outcome, I was an emotional wreck for WEEKS after watching. But then, not many characters can compare to Mei Changsu).

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I completely agree about He is Psychometric, yikes. I will comment about the show then.😉

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Got side tracked but was finally able to catch up through episode 10 of Go Go Squid. So far for the most part it's following the novels that it is based on and I'm really enjoying this light fluffy drama.

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Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung: Park Ki-Woong and Lee Ji-Hoon are not only amazing, but why was I not aware of their deep voices until now?

Soul Mate: One of the best portrayals of female friendship. It reminds me of Hana and Alice.

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Love Park Ki-Woong since Monster. But I haven't watch Rookie Historian yet. Is Shin Se-Kyung doing good in there?

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Yes 😃 shin se kyung always shines in historical dramas, watch her in six flying dragons u would love it.

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Yep. I love her in sageuks. I’ve never seen her in a non-sageuk show. :D

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Her best, so far. She's Haeryung right off the bat.

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Yes, she's super cute. But @mary review is spot on. I was a little disappointed she didn't get to display more sass this week, but hopefully next week.

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Soul Mate: The movie or the currently airing drama? I am not watching (yet) the drama but I’ve watched the movie. I had minor issue with one of the girls but like you mentioned it’s well portrayed and both actresses did an awesome job.

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I watched the movie, and was impressed at how beautifully and smartly it was directed/edited. Was it Zhou Dongyu's character that you had issues with? I FF checked out the first episode of the drama. Because of timing and having just watched the movie, I don't know if I'll watch the drama. Zhou Dongyu and Sandra Ma were so perfect in their roles.

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Apologies for the late reply. Yes, Zhou Dongyu’s character. It didn’t lessen my love for the movie and the chars as a whole though.

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Really really liking Level Up. It’s getting better and better as Dante’s cracks are starting to appear. The show is making me bust out laughing but has its poignant moments also, which is my favorite kind of show.

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Why do I feel like there are many shows I need to catch up these days, am I getting busier or it just purely too many good dramas lately I don't know. Usually I stuck on one or two for like three months.
And why nobody told me the fact Lee Kyu-Hyung my love since Secret Forest era years ago were casted in Doctor John. Sigh.

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Expect for Perfume and two weekend dramas in black I watched everything and now I'm mostly confused about some storylines due two heat wave and not enough time to sleep, but I regret nothing.

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In summer when it is hot at night and still light out it is so easy to start binging episodes late into the night.

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That's exactly what I've been doing these days, and it's screwing up my sleep schedule. The heat is making me in the mood for drama-watching.

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MISS HAMMURABI –The first episode jumped right out of the gate and had me invested in everyone’s stories! I breezed through 2 episodes without realizing it. I love Go Ara’s wackiness and L’s seriousness. Ryu Deok Hwan is gold here – don’t we all know someone like him? If not, then we should.
ROOKIE HISTORIAN – I am just not feeling it and after this week’s episode, so I’m bidding it farewell. The scene where the Crown Price was chastising Hae Ryung sternly and moments later smiling warmly to her when he gives her the appointment letter just leaves me confused, amongst other confusing things. I loved how Shin Se Kyung portrayed her role in Bride of the Water God but everything she is in since and prior to that has been a dud for me.
GOLDEN GARDEN – Wow, even I was surprised at how makjang this is. But it’s what I signed up for. I don’t know why it’s not a daily drama because it sure has all the makings of one, down to the soapy acting. Lee Sang Woo in drag was worth the price of admission alone! I’ve been wanting to see more of Oh Ji Eun after the daily drama Nameless Woman and was pleasantly surprised to see her here, amongst other familiar castings popping up here and there.
LEVEL-UP – This show continues to be hilarious and I’ve finally warmed up to Sung Hoon! I realized his delivery may be stiff but his expressions are killing it. He and Han Bo Reum make a great comedic team. The rest of the supporting cast is also excellent, making the story development feel very organic.

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In the past I had trouble warming up to Sung Hoon, but after watching him in a variety show (Law of the Jungle) I don't find him stiff anymore. That guy is oddly contained/focused, but is neither cold, nor lacking in humor.

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-Hotel Del (de la) Luna🌙 3-4: I got a little behind on the live watch this week and was late to the recaps. This is @kudoran’s fault for introducing me to the awesomeness that is JTBC’s Super Band 😉.
Anyway, still liking HDL overall. While I wasn’t as bothered by Yeo Jin Goo’s acting as some, I did sense some awkwardness at first. This seems to be getting better.
Also, I need more scenes of the backstory with Man-wol and the two guys.

-A Moment at Eighteen 1: MY HEART. Already loving this a lot, and I haven’t even made it to the second episode yet. It’s giving me School 2013 vibes having watched that one not too long ago. This, however, has potential to be even better if it keeps it up. Pleasestaygood. 🙏

-JTBC SuperBand performances on repeat 🔁 all week. 🎶

Shout-out to Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata for making an appearance in both dramas I’m watching.

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Idk why when I try to bold text on my phone it wants to bold my ENTIRE comment 🙄. Tried twice before giving up. The same with italicizing. Only the word “both” was supposed to be italicized.

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Super Band is my fav' show of 2019 and one of my fav' of all time, spreading its love with pleasure and no guilt at all =P

You're welcome :) , I'm always so happy reading other Beanies enjoying it ^^ !

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Oh, so is School 2013 still good in 2019 ? I loved it but I thought it wouldn't age well ?

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School 2013 is timeless. I rewatch it every so often 😄

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I watched it for the first time back in the spring and liked it :)

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On the roads of Spain, I introducted my sister to Hoppipolla! She's a fan of Wake Me Up now :D

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The Moonlight Sonata has a prominent place so far in HOTEL DEL LUNA. Yeo Jin Goo does seem to be getting better- and I am very sure that we will get a lot more about the long ago back story.

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Plenty of dramas this season!!

WWW: about to finish. Enjoyed it a lot.

Rookie Historian: this show is so good!! Why aren’t more people watching it??

Level Up: :surprisingly enjoyable. It’s funny and not too trope driven.

Watcher:: enjoying it. But it’s quite confusing as more And more characters are coming into play.

Mo18:: episode 1 was a solid start. Will continue watching.

Doctor John:: I want to drop but cannot. Will give it one more shot this weekend :)

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I think people don't understand the type of comedy Rookie Historian is. While watching the third episode, I was laughing at Cha Eun-woo and his enuch's antics, and shaking my head at the criticism of his acting, which is INTENTIONALLY over the top and exaggerated. It's like trying to compare Park Seo-joon's character in WWWSK to the typical ML in a romcom, when his character is intentionally written to be unrealistically arrogant/narcissistic (and he was obviously having such a great time playing that role!) I laughed out loud when a viewer (not here) tried to compare Seo-joon's intentionally over-the-top, comedic character, Lee Young-joon, to the sexy Kim Jae-wook's romantic lead character, Ryan Gold, saying that the latter was a better actor because his character was "more realistic." Ya think??? hahaha!

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Throughout July I only watched one drama:Perfume.

Perfume ended this week. It was the ending I hoped but was told in a more splendid and intricate way. Many2 kudos to everyone involved in making Perfume happen. Thank you for breaking stereotypes, thank you for allowing the cast to shine in this beautiful story. It had a bumpy start but it remained true to its core and told Jae Hee's journey.

I'm sad that it has ended, however with the lovely ending it had, I'm glad it did end. I'll miss Perfume, it was entertaining and heart tugging. Both Yi Do and Jae Hee/Ye Rin touched my heart with their individual struggles. I'm so happy they found each other in the end as better versions of themselves.

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11/10 for the message it brought forward. Some messages it had: love yourself and you don’t have to be perfect to be loved and accepted as who you are. To be compassionate.
11/10 for the acting and character growth
10/10 for maintaining its laughter to the end
9.3/10 for production value. The World Fashion Week looked like a real event. I really like the colours in this drama, i find the drama visually pleasant to watch. Dig the songs, music and books. Minor complaint is the black border, it took up screen space. Heh.

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Going way back in time and watching Ruler of Your Own World, and it's absolutely lovely - great characters, complicated relationships, an indie rock band - I definitely should not have waited so long to watch this one.

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s from 2002 so characters were still smoking on-screen and everyone has a flip phone, but it's really well written so far.

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A masterpiece! The very young Lee Na-young and Kong Hyo-jin were amazing in it, and Yang Dong-geun was both adorable and heartbreaking as the very atypical hero. One of the biggest losses of K drama is that the writer In Jung-ok hasn't had anything on screen for the past 15 years or so. May I ask how/where you're watching this? All I managed to find was a DVD box set from Taiwan, dubbed in Chinese...

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I'm watching it on Tubi and was really thrilled to discover it was there. I had tried to watch it on Dramafever before the site shut down, but the links weren't working properly.

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Will look for it on Tubi. Thanks!

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Lol mary! [RHGHR] I'm grateful Seo Youngjoo is just a cameo or else my ship count would be four. One ship sinking is already painful but it seems we'll be experiencing a fleet sinking this time around. Getting life jackets ready!

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Is that the not-husband? Awww what a sweetie I felt for him too! When he was so awkward and worried that Hae-ryung’s life will be ruined. Which means Orabeoni actually tried to choose a good husband for his baby sis... I actually don’t hate him for it, though he’s clipping Hae-ryung’s wings, he knows how shitty and dangerous palace life is and he doesn’t want his sister to get caught up in that.

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Yes, that's him! I was so surprised that he was calm and understanding when Haeryung asked him for that favor. It was a slap to his honor and it's so easy to think he'd turn her down (or curse her descendants up to the third generation) but he respected her wishes and was genuinely concerned.

Orabeoni seems very protective of Haeryung despite being a supportive older brother. He lets her do what she wants, learn and explore things. It's curious and makes me wonder about their past. He wants to protect Haeryung from something or someone but we just don't know what or who.

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There was an implied tragedy involving the death of their parents... and their lives are somewhat contingent on the brother’s “good behavior” towards the villain. I wonder if the parents’ death are involved with the mystery surrounding Ho Dam?

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That would be a nice tie in to make the different characters arc cohesive!

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Ooooooh I see what you mean. TRAGIC PAST ALERT??? Hae-ryung’s family had something to do with the palace secret. That would make so much sense and also explain the Evil Minister’s “I know what you’re actually capable of” comment to Orabeoni. Don’t make him do evil things!!! *threatens to tweeze the Minister’s beard hairs one by one*

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Very likely. And correct me if I'm wrong but weren't families of so called traitors eradicated as well despite their innocence. Or am I missing that up with Chinese history? Seen too many shows now, they're blurring. But the brothe r did have a sense of urgency to him when he said she had to get married for protection. It's made me curious whether it's not just a past crime of indiscretion his family was involved with but whether he himself is involved in some kind of current insurrection, maybe printing Ho Dam?

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@barbrey. Yes, eradication of large chunks of the family tree was a practice long ago...

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@barbrey unuuuu~ I was just thinking Orabeoni's crimes are a past thing. :( I was even hoping Orabeoni is behind the Ho Dam stuff to right some wrongs. Cos there was a scene where the Minister said "I've looked everywhere and can't find the source. And the only place left to look is under the light," and Orabeoni made shifty-eyes (though he always has shifty eyes...)

Anyway, we all seem to agree that Orabeoni is 90% noble and only 10% idiot, so I want him saved by the end of this show, y'hear me, Drama Gods?! If we're not doing a proper sageuk, then we shouldn't be doing a sageuk-level body count.

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@mary I think the chat here about old habits of lopping branches off of family trees was about the past, possibly why the parents died, and what deal might have saved the son and daughter. I agree with you, oraboni is not showing the villain everything. I noticed the shifty look too - hope the villain didn’t.

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Level up: "...what I love most about Sung Hoon is how little he cares about looking good on camera." Yes, this made 'I picked up a celebrity on the street' worth watching as well - Sung Hoon playing against 'type' and letting himself look ridiculous... and appearing to enjoy doing it in the process.

Search Query WWW: My complaint with the series all along was how loosely woven the narrative threads to the story had been. But I've to to hand it to them, that was one great ending. Though loosely woven, the narrative still formed a whole and everything fit together perfectly

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PREMIERE WEEK! As per usual, I didn’t get in as many drama premieres as I’d hoped.

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DOCTOR JOHN: Heavily biased here. I like Ji Sung. A lot. So he’s great. The drama itself is entertaining. Not sure I like that the lead is such a newbie here, but we’ll see. (ep. 1-2)

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THE LAST EMPRESS: Quite a solid premiere week. I watched beanies raving about it when it aired but didn’t start it. I actually didn’t realize Lee Hyuk was already that crazy right at the beginning. And though Yu-ra is quite the villain, she’s kind of fascinating to watch, what with her not-so-subtle manipulation of the emperor. The drama hasn’t quite endeared Oh Sunny to me, but we have 48 episodes for her to turn into a formidable rival. I don’t think this will be a hard watch at all, as each episode has a lot going on. (ep. 1-4)

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Jang Na-ra is one of my favorite actresses. Have fun with THE LAST EMPRESS.

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So far I'm loving Rookie historian Goo Hae Ryung. Everything is perfect, the plot, the fun, the characters and I like the chemistry between SSK and CEW. Still the main charm is the leading lady, she's so determined to live life the way she wants even if that means going against all social conventions and pressure, she's also fun and full of passion for her books, I just love her.
Also watching Hotel del Luna but not fully onboard with the romance, more like admiring IU's awesomeness and outfits...and that hot captain that sadly is just something from the past. I think I would have preferred to watch a drama about their love story, haha! Well, it's a nice watch anyway.

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We have a comment page started for Rookie Historian if you'd like to join! http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/06/new-posters-and-stills-for-rookie-historian-gu-hae-ryung/#comment-3495981

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Sure! I'll join you guys, there is a lot to discuss, haha!! :D

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I caught the premiere of MOMENT AT EIGHTEEN and liked it very much, though it took me two episodes to warm up to the main guy.

I’m also rewatching NOKDU FLOWER. I can concentrate more on the development of characters now that I know what happened. Every character was written meticulously, it’s amazing.

Moreover, I don’t think all the references to SIX FLYING DRAGONS and cameos are merely the PD blowing his own trumpet. I think he intended for us to view these dramas as a pair: one is about the founding of Joseon and the other is about its end, as well as their legacy for modern Korea. The focus on the first is on nobles and their supporters (including common people) with the aim to create a nation for the people. The second shows that the nobles ultimately failed; it is the common people who try to create a better nation and then fight for it.

And lol I’m on the last episode of JACKPOT and Yi In Jwa still hasn’t died! 🤣🤣🤣

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Maybe I am watching too many dramas right now.

I agree with Laica about Sung Hoon’s performance in LEVEL UP. Having seen Sung Hoon carry a drama in the short episode drama NOBLE, MY LOVE my opinion of his acting ability has always been fairly high- and was only further confirmed by his acting as a secondary character in OH MY VENUS. While he is not my very favorite actor, I have to say that I have become a fan. I am watching LEVEL UP on Viki – which means that there is some delay as subtitling is taking some time. As I write this episode 5 is only 30% subtitled. Yes, I know that I need to learn Korean but I have been really busy lately. I can certainly confirm that this show is very well worth watching for all the reasons that Laica has set out.

My wife and I are still watching BRING IT ON GHOST. Family events, trips and work are stretching this show out for us. When we finish it we will be watching WHAT’S WRONG WITH SECRETARY KIM.

For the same reason I am still watching LAUREL TREE TAILORS where Lee Dong-gun is a central character. I am now up to episode 44.

I am way behind in watching SEARCH: WWW. But I do want to remark on just how beautiful the cinematography is. And the story is well written.

Which brings me to the show that has me totally hooked: HOTEL DEL LUNA. I confess to being completely mesmerized. It has it all, including great sets, great camera work and an IU who has never been lovelier.

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Hotel Del Luna does look amazing. I love the corridors in the hotel. They must have quite the budget for this show!

Level Up hasn't really been on my radar, but all these positive comments are catching my attention.

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YAY to WWW's writer who focussed on the strong women bonds, even thru adversity and conflict at times -- their friendship/person bonds withstand thru thick and thin!

most Kdramas have an evil jealous woman (former girlfriend, wannabe girlfriend, mother-in-law, etc) trying to undermine a relationship or corporate position which makes women characters petty, possessive and shallow. it is tiresome!!

time for more independent, strong, confident, capable, intelligent, loyal women characters who aren't damsels in distress.
*fighting!!*

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@halfmoon “Gun” 👍

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I think I last wrote what I’m watching about two weeks ago. I have been behind on most things since then due to my travels and holiday and haven’t been able to start most of the new shows I want to check out so I am looking forward to reading which ones are worthy the time. (Dammit, they all sound interesting!)

In the last two weeks I have finished Angel’s Last Mission: Love: (quite weak and draggy ending), My Absolute Boyfriend (did not deserve all the discussion time we dedicated to it and don't know what to say about that bizarre and nonsensical ending) and Search Query: WWW (did not disappoint till the end and is my favorite show of the year so far. @laica Best thing about "a relationship between three women that echoed all the major beats of a love triangle" is that you are never on the wrong ship as it can end in a threesome! And I wouldn't mind seeing Hyun and puppy on the side in that Act 2).

I am behind in Mother of Mine, the last episode I have seen was that bizarre wedding.

I have only seen the first two episodes of Hotel Del Luna. I like the atmosphere of the show, I love IU, I love her costumes. I think she is perfect for the role and I disagree with comments that suggest an older, more experienced actress. I think the contrast of her youth and beauty with her cynicism and harshness is perfect. Man Wol’s story and the setting is engaging, unfortunately I am not feeling Yeon Jin Gu nor the chemistry between them. As opposed to our 21 year old puppy in WWW whose age we don’t feel I am feeling YJG’s youth here. He feels like a kid cosplaying in that suit. I can’t take him seriously as a 30-year old experienced manager. I am not a fan of reincarnation stories either so that possibility put further damper on my excitement. I hope these aspects improve in further episodes.

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You're right! It's the only love triangle with a happy ending.

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@mary, smack me with a measuring tape, dang it! DESIGNATED SURVIVOR has swiped the haberdashery HQ of the Old Geezers Plotting World Domination from TERIUS BEHIND ME. Quick, check Assemblyman Oh's buttons for logos hiding in plain sight. Now if only So Ji-sub could parachute in with twins in tow to save the day with nose nuzzles. ;-)

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What images you raise!

I thought Terius was a lovely little show, for the most part.

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@hebang FlyingTool,

TERIUS did have its moments, and the kiddos were the cutest little scene-stealers.

At the rate things are going in the Blue House, President Park could use a few nose nuzzles himself.

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A short dream sequence would suffice. The President, stressed to the breaking point, does for a moment...ah, if only!

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Dozes, not does!!!

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The Untamed (~32): We knew it was coming, but it's still really sad to see how Jin Rulan's parents died... and the others from the Wen clan.. after having lived happily together for more than a year..

It was really cute that Wei Wuxian actually named his nephew though.

I really like watching videos about this drama but it's pretty hard to avoid spoilers (from people who have read the novel) if you want to read the comments as well :/

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Also, A'Yuan + Wei Wuxian + Lan Wangji together is absolutely adorable

I'm looking forward to next week's episodes. Back to the present (and one of my favorite characters - Lan Sizhui)

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Watcher :now...I think I can't trust any of the characters anymore..you can't know what 's actually going on in their head ...The plot is starting to move...

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@mary,
We have CLASS OF LIES and DESIGNATED SURVIVOR:60 DAYS in common.
Re DS:60D. All I can say is that I am glad I was not sipping my morning coffee when I got to this:

I hate you, Assemblyman Oh, and your jaw-dropping gorgeousness. I hope they catch you soon, you diabolical good-looking jerk!

otherwise the coffee would have been all over my iPad and coffee table. I loved it.
Lee Joon-hyuk is so good as Assemblyman Oh.
'Weasel' was a great description of the character he played in STRANGER/FOREST OF SECRETS but he is so far beyond that in DS.

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@marcusnyc20,
I laughed out loud at @mary's knee-slapper, too.

Hmmm, I have to rewatch this past week's episodes, as I think a few things went "whoosh" right over my head. Or snuck past me on little cat feet.

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So far, LJH's character isn't hateful. But maybe I've been taken in by his military hero schtick. I've fallen victim to HypnoToad.

Holy cow -- maybe Assemblyman Oh's two traumatized subordinates are actually co-conspirators. Or maybe they are just being used as camouflage. It has occurred to me that Assemblyman Oh might even be a Manchurian candidate. He always answers the PTSD guy's phone calls. That makes me mighty suspicious. The caller ID could be spoofed (we are dealing with the NIS), and might even be a trigger that has been brainwashed into him.

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@pakalanapikake,
I think Assemblyman Oh definitely has a game plan. Some kind of conspiracy is in play. He is carrying a huge grudge. The fact that he survived the National Assembly bombing raises a red flag. Is he the leader or a subordinate in the conspiracy? If he becomes Minister of Defense, look out.
Aside. One of the things that irks me about the general story is that the writer(s) have basically ignored the situation that the National Assembly found itself in after the bombing.
The Legislative Branch was severely damaged. I am assuming the majority party leadership was wiped out. Yet they have opposition party leader Assemblywoman Yoon operating like she is running things. The fact that she was not at the President’s address should have put her on suspect list. If a majority of Assembly members of the President’s party were killed they might not even have a quorum to conduct business.
I guess what I am saying is the story is almost solely focused on the President.
Also, I have not seen the American version of DS.

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There was a point when I thought it was his army buddies who planned it all out without his knowledge, and they just called him at 3:14 and went "building's gonna go BOOM, either you go to the bomb shelter or just die and let our sacrifice go to waste."

But then the tailor stuff happened and I'm like "Nope, he planned this whole thing! Right down to choosing the bestest most handsomest DNA to be born with, so he can seduce the public when he survives the attack!" (It's me, I'm the public.)

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He's not really hamming up the bad guy side of things. But the interim president and the surviving staff are all working so hard to keep the country stable and be fair to everyone so you just want to protect them and their vision. Then in comes this dashing (probably) villain stealing the limelight and mysteriously getting a lot of power in a short amount of time. AND he keeps looking down on our nerdy president, which I will never forgive him for! (Listen to the scientists, assholes!)

Character-wise, he's closer to a Malfoy. This quiet, sneering persona who walks around thinking he owns the place and everyone doesn't deserve to be there.

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O/T Remember this Mary? LJH out of (or before he filled) that dress uniform:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/06/lee-jun-hyuk-reports-for-duty/

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I am divided between C and K dramas at the moment. Normally I focus on one or the other because there are only so many hours in a week. But as Go Go Squid is about to belt out its swan song, I'm sniffing around for a replacement. GGS has been nicely cute and fluff after a short second (arguably unnecessary albeit hilarious) breakup. I adore Li Xian for everything he does with the role and for turning into The Absolute Boyfriend in this final phase. I want him in another rom com soon!

I've been exploring both Novoland Eagle Flag and The Longest Day in Chang'an seeing that they're getting a fair bit of press. I like what I've seen of both although I'm not a fan of the fantasy genre as a rule. But I'm fond of Liu Haoran, who was last seen in Nirvana in Fire 2. Longest Day looks like a blast though and I've enjoyed lifelong love affair with the Tang dynasty which is renowned for its poets and poetry. Cinematography is amazing to say the least and conceptually it's China's answer to 24. It looks more like cinema than television.

Partners for Justice 2 looks to end well. All the pieces are in place. Can't wait to see the back of Prosecutor Gal... obstructionist extraordinaire... in cuffs preferably. A great season overall.

Designated Survivor thankfully seems to be finding its groove just like its titular character... perhaps. ;) I don't know why I hadn't come across SSK prior to this but he's a wonderful find and one of the truly outstanding aspects of this show. We all have our conspiracy theories I'm sure but I hope CYJ remains on the side of the angels.

Watcher is growing on me. A bit of sleepy start but after Episode 4, I feel that the show has transitioned and becoming more like the fare we expect from OCN.

Nothing else in Kdramaland that's on offer appeals at the moment but who knows... I might give Rookie Historian a look in when I'm done with PfJ 2.

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Just popping in quick to say THANK YOU @laica for your reviews of WWW without them I might have missed one of my new all time favorites.

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Search query www - I barely managed to marathoned all 5 final episodes in 1 evening. I honestly skipped all the office stories and just watching this for the 3 main leads and their stories. Started watching because of Jang Ki Yong but continue watching for the actor playing Seol Ji Hwan. His story with Cha Hyeon is another fangirl wish come true kind of story. 🥰
Historian Goo Hae Ryeong - Cha Eun Woo was indeed a bit bland in his expression but the other actors salvaged this drama. Cha Eun Woo can just sit and stare at the camera and I would still be watching the handsome face. 😅 I am so happy that the Crown Prince is on the good side here. 3 possible ships! I have a feeling I might be on the sinking ship already 😂

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I wasn't going to post because I'm way too obsessed with THE UNTAMED and haven't been able to watch anything else, even though there are other k-dramas I really want to watch.
Why do I like it so much (I've said this kind of thing before, but this one has been way more emotionally intense for me).
1) The story itself: I've never been this taken with the actual story. There are so many characters, clans, sects, and they're all intricately interwoven (and everybody has at least 3 different names). Even side characters you think won't be important become quite important to the story eventually.
So I'm also reading the novel, going back and forth to understand a lot. Doing research about each character. This is what makes a drama good for me and something I enjoy doing, when it's more than simple (but then I have poor retention anyway!). Kudos to the author of the novel for such an intricate story and to the English translation which is wonderful, and for the producers of the drama for (so far) keeping true to the events and characters.
Lan Wang Ji truly cares and loves Wei Wu Xian but for most of the drama Wu Xian doesn't even realize it and doesn't realize he also cares so much for Wang Ji. It's mostly Wu Xian's journey (he carries most of the scenes) and Wang Ji's supporting him even though Wu Xian doesn't realize it until very late.
2) The novel is BL (but the physical relationship is only in the extra chapters after the end so you can skip that if you want). The drama is considered bromance, but it's actually less than BL and more than just bromance. The love between them is palpable. I hate to mention the word "chemistry" but honestly, the chemistry between the two male leads is more than I've ever seen on any other drama, period.
3) The weaving of traditional Chinese instruments (flute and zither) as almost characters themselves and woven into the story brilliantly. In one scene where Wu Xian has been wounded he asks Wang Ji to sing him a song. (the two actors recorded the OST as a beautiful duet). As Wang Ji is singing it to him, he reflects on their time together. At the end, Wu Xian asks Wang Ji what the name of the song is. He replies in a whisper (and it's blurred out so it's hard to hear and see his response) "Wang Xian", which is a combination of their names. If you've read the novel and you know the OST, you know what he said.
I've actually found the piano score (already!) on Musescore. If you're interested in watching their duet it's on my fanwall.
So it's only halfway through airing and I've already watched it 3 times - that's how bad I have it! But on each re-watch I've picked up more important details I hadn't previously noticed.
This weekend to tear myself away from being so obsessed with The Untamed, I found that Viki has re-added ADDICTED. So I binged it today. There are only 15 episodes and each episode is about 20 minutes in total, so it was doable.
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Wow, first time my comment was so long it got cut off.
Looking forward to WHEN THE DEVIL CALLS YOUR NAME and NOVOLAND: EAGLE FLAG which will air on viki this week. Yay!

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OMG I exactly had the same problem! There's no indicator to the word limit and I even forgot to copy my comment first. Also the fact that our comment bear similarities in which we're both having trouble withdrawing from our favorite.. xD It's just a beef funny to me because I didn't read your comment before and now I'm writing exactly the same thing except for a different drama.

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In my experience comments get cut off after 500-510 words. Don't know if that helps..

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helps a lot. Thank you <3

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I'm having a Gong Hyo Jin drama marathon this year. I always heard her hype from back when she was starring on Master's Sun, and people in the k-drama community always gushes about her acting, so in this year that I finally watched some of her works such as Pasta and Master Sun's, I found myself disappointed. Seems like the expectation that build over years, from 2013 to now has piled up to a mountain.

It's Okay, That's Love turned out to be the turning point of me finally embracing her as one of my to watch actress. I just completed the show this week, and surprisingly, even though prominent k-drama sites like dramabeans and others that I found having a cult following doesn't give exactly a happy review, I found myself having a relatively strong withdrawal syndrome with this drama.

One thing I found and love about this show is how nonchalant all their actions are. Whether it's friendship or love, the way their gestures are delivered just felt so nonchalant. This makes me feel like watching real people on my screen. I love Jae Yeol and Hae Soo's arguments, her prickliness, his tantrum when people, and even Hae Soo, bothered his writing time. How the conflicts of each characters weaved in a careful and thoughtful manner. How the craziness of the housemates and the thug Hyung weirdly inter-clashed with each other and keep the show interesting to the end.

When I reach the last episode, I screamed with delight after the credits. 'I think I just met my soul drama!' 'Oh God, this is so well-written! I can't believe it's so consistent and beautiful and daring from the beginning to end!' 'All the characters receive so much love and spotlight and oh I just hafta say I love this!' Well, I uttered such stuff at midnight and I'm sure my neighbor roommates might have been rather annoyed with my noise.

I wish I could truly express how much I adore and love this show. I hate to use this excuse but due to English not being my native, I don't remember/know many adjectives or adverbs yet to convey the exact feels I have for this show. Honestly, I would have hated a character like Ji Hae Soo if I were to meet her in other drama. But maybe the fact that I don't really enjoy Gong Hyo Jin's character in her two dramas I watched (Pasta, Master's Sun) makes me appreciate her bashful but honest character a lot in It's Okay That's Love. I'd rather see her as a badass character than her Gong-vely persona, but of course who doesn't need a bit of that once in a while? I'm just really turned off when it's integrated to her character as a whole. Also, the fact that Jae Yeol was evidently aware of this part of her nature and doing his rules 'what goes around comes around' to get back at her is what truly makes me think, 'God, this couple must be made for each other.' He confront what he doesn't like about her applying his own rules that actually mirrored what she's doing some of the times with him, and the way it's used as a...

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resolve to their fight is somewhat brilliant but a tad bit of a childish and messy move. Despite that, we watch their relationship grow. All the debate and arguments they have to lead to a different level of their relationship, which heighten all the moments they shared together even further.

I love how both of them admit at first that it's probably their temper that would break them apart and not because of infidelities or mak-jang mothers, but it's a little bit ironic how in the end Hae Soo mother play a small part on having them apart from each other for a while, only that it doesn't feel mak jang, because we already learnt how much the mother suffered with the impaired husband and two daughters to support, also the mental damage she must have had in a way by having an affair with President Kim. Her action somehow make sense which only makes the whole thing more poignant.

Which leads me to my last point. For all the organic characters and feels the show is nurturing me with, I'm eternally grateful. I love this drama and I think that's okay! Haha.

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I still have to watch Its Ok, That's Love. I really liked her in Thank You. It is a nice little drama. For some reason it reminded me a little of the feel of a British production. Maybe it was the village setting. If you haven't seen it and watch it try and have some choco pies handy.

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I heard really good praises about Thank You and also her acting. I wonder which drama should I pick first between that, Jealousy, and Greatest Love. xD
But what you said about the British production feel has tempted me to a 50% because I'm just a sucker for that.
Then I would have to say that IOTL have the messy feel of a contemporary American drama, especially the straightforwardness and blunt manner of the main couple and just the side characters in general.
Choco pies noted.

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I loved Masters Sun but have to say I almost dropped it in the first half cause I found her scaredy-cat ways tedious for a drama heroine. But liked her the second half. She does tend to go through character development in her roles so grows on you.

She DOES know how to pick dramas, I'll say that for her. Master's Sun, Greatest Love, It's Okay That's Love, Jealousy Incarnate - these four are in my top ten list out of likely more than a hundred. And she's quirky and unexpected and for me not immediately likable in any of them because it takes a while to see her strengths.

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"She DOES know how to pick dramas, I'll say that for her."

Well yes, the dramas are very refreshing to me as well. But enjoyable to the point I didn't grunt for some of the episodes at all? So far not for me. Except for IOTL.

"And she's quirky and unexpected and for me not immediately likable in any of them because it takes a while to see her strengths."

I will keep this in mind when watching her new drama. I felt like she's always a slow burn when it comes to 'lovely' character, but this is my fault for having different expectation from the beginning. I already mentioned how I have build this expectation from 2013, and how with all that years I haven't watch any of her work except this year. When I read people's praises for an actor's acting, I immediately pictured them in their most complex range. So when I dived into Pasta and Master's Sun, I was probably a bit baffled how airy and breezy light her character is. That, and also the fact that I always remember Master's Sun as a rom-com drama in that 'I Need Romance'-esque (I haven't watch that too, but what I meant is a drama where the leads catch feelings fast, have many sexual skinships. I don't even know why I even painted Master's Sun as such xD) and not as a Taeyang's journey on embracing her sixth sense nature story probably have me in the wrong mindset and expectation and makes the drama felt less enjoyable for me.

Probably would have taken a slightly different turn if I'm imploying a mindset that 'this is a comedy show so please have a good laugh'.

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Very likely your expectations did kill Master's Sun for you. I had none for the first three dramas I mentioned because hadn't found dramabeans, and was even still getting used to faces so didn't realize it was the same actress in all three! I thought she was unattractive as well - she grew on me in that department as well. I don't follow any actresses in k dramas like I follow my fave actors, but if she's in a drama I'll always check it out because her batting average is so high for me.

Have you tried Jealousy Incarnate yet? I have a tip. If you don't laugh out loud about the bra gag that happens in the first few episodes, the humour of this show might not be for you and you might as well drop it. If you do like it, you're in for a great time with all the characters.

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You know, sometimes I wish I wasn't really that active in the community so that I could always be surprised and ignorant when watching the drama. Like you, hadn't I found dramabeans, I would not recognize the actors in different works. I used to be like this especially when I was still in middle school, but now that I'm more keen on finding info about them, the 'mystery' is kind of gone, haha.

I'm confident I wouldn't have trouble laughing about that though. xD Aside from IOTL withdrawing problem, the main reason behind my hesitation to try Jealousy Incarnate is because the romance is sort of a hybrid triangle (from what I read off people's comments) and I'm just really bad at handling my heart with this setting, especially when the girl is confused between two guys.

I have it in my list but I'm just not sure when to start it.

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Have you seen any of her movies? I’ve read that she is much more adventurous with her movie roles, but haven’t had a chance to check them out.

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@zanearaki. Re the love triangle in Jealousy, don't be put off that it has one. It provides the hijinks for the jealousy of the title, which ends up taming the main male lead. The second male lead is scrumptious and normal and any sane girl would pick him. But this is not a show about sane and normal people.

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@hebang No, I haven't. I rarely watched k-movies but it does seems like it judging from her filmography.

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*not bashful but have spicy mouth and a bit mean-spirited here and there. I thought bashful means a person with a foul mouth.

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Ack! Just mentioning Gong Hyo Jin and It's Okay, That's Love made me hunt it down to watch it a couple episodes. Again.

Like you, I was also spurred to marathon a handful of dramas starring Gong Hyo Jin. IOTL is in a class of its own, with its frank exploration of sex, romantic love and mental health. What is it about Gong Hyo Jin that makes her such an exceptional acting partner? How does she pull together this natural vulnerability that's so damn irresistible?

Thanks for reminding me of one of my favorite dramas ever. It's one that I can always dip into when I need a pick-me-up. ;)

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The pleasure is mine!
She is definitely one of SK actresses who posessed this natural presence whenever she graced the screen. I always like that about her.
And maybe that's why I can't stop watching her drama. xD
It's funny because I'm also re-watching it again, and found some details that I missed during the first watch. Come to think of it, every scenes feels like it's hiding a meaning or serves as hints/foreshadowing of what's to come, like the first episode on the talk show. Jae Yeol said if he was the patient then he's certain that he could fool Hae Soo about his illness. And that's literally what happened when Hae Soo wasn't the first person to find out about his psychosis. And it's almost unnoticeable unless I analyzed the dialogue within the context of the story as a whole. Just brilliant.

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