Wigen, wtf… So mun wasn’t dead when she entered his body without his consent. Offered him a job that he didn’t ask and promised him a meeting with his parents. Now she dumped him just like that.
I just started The Uncanny Counter. I think it’s the first time since forever I found a K-drama with high-schooler characters who do look like high-school students 😄
But he never said anything about his feeling towards Dan-oh. It’s always “ya, Haru. You’re an extra, so act like one”. To me he looks like he’s more concerned about an extra who potentially could upstage him/alter the stage more than Dan-oh.
I think the answer to your question is “both”. He’s a tsundere on and off the stage, and he is also jealous of Haru. He likes Dan-oh but most of the time doesn’t know how to act decently (thank goodness she told him). Ultimately he’s afraid. He’s lost everything he thought was real, including Dan-oh’s affection, so he sees Haru as a threat.
Also, I think he’s super bitter that everyone’s ‘real’ selves can’t really get on with him. He genuinely seemed to enjoy having Haru as a loyal friend and actually stopped winding people up for like, 2.5 seconds.
So maybe it feels like a double betrayal to have such strong and unwavering loyalty that he tested, trusted and leaned on to be taken away: no matter how awful he was to Dan Oh, she fawned over him. Haru would help him out and do kind things for him without prompting and quite insistently.
No-one in his life does that for him!
And Haru is (now) at the intersection of both of those broken connections.
Rather than curse the writer (I think he’s the one person we haven’t seen give them a curse word or 5), he blames Haru. And he purposefully targets Dan Oh now in order to wind up Haru because it’s the one thing that does rile him up and get a reaction, even if Haru knows Baek Kyung is doing it on purpose.
And I think that both amuses and infuriates him, to see how sincere and deep and sure Haru’s feelings towards Dan Oh are besides his flickering feelings which he’s still sorting through in typical tsundere manner.
Because life was simpler before Haru turned up so it must be Haru’s fault life is now like this #BrokenLogic #BaekKyungLogic
I can’t help feeling sorry for Baek-kyung. I don’t know if it’s because I really the character (despite his flaws) or simply for Lee Jae-wook. I hope the writer will give Baek-kyung a good ending.
NIS in vagabond is really incompetent. I can’t believe this! SK should hv the best spy in the world, their next door neighbor is one of the most dangerous cult with nuclear missile. Come on!
I just finished The Longest Day in Chang’an, an hour before my caravan subscription ends 😄
I love about this show more than Nirvana in Fire because TLDIC is a story about common people. Most costume dramas that I know have royals and nobles as the leads, but in Chang’an the story revolves around minorities, small vendors, lower level soldiers and civil servants. I think this is a story about their revenges.
I’m just trying to absorb the series. I’m trying to criticize this objectively as a whole. The break I took somewhat lessened my excitement.
Overall, it truly is a quality drama. I really love the technical and visuals aspects of the drama. The costumes, The acting, the lighting and photography. They are all high quality. But it’s the characters and my lack of emotional attachment to them that’s giving me hard time, specially coming from binged watching The Untamed. The ending was sort of weak as well.
I’m conflicted, basically. But it’s truly one high quality drama.
The production value is amazing. Sometimes I wish some scene should be made into movie than a TV show.
The ending is a bit underwhelming, but overall I really love it. I can relate to Xu Bin, Long Bo, Wen Ran and their frustration. Now my question is, where did Xu Bin get all those gold? I really hope we will get the answer in season 2.
After 40+ episodes I find that Long Bo is hot as well 😄
Not as hot as ZXJ though
In c-drama, guys in armour always look hot. I don’t feel that way with guys in european medieval costume drama.
Now I’m on my third attempt to watch The Untamed, I still don’t find it interesting. It got 9.3 rating on MDL, higher than Nirvana in Fire. Chang’an only got 8.8, so The Untamed must be good, right?
The Untamed is one of my fav dramas but even I admit the beginning was poorly done. The first 2 ep. is very confusing as you have no idea who any of the characters are or what is happening. And some of the acting is a bit cringey and awkward in the beginning. I didnt really start getting into the drama until ep. 6 or 7 and didnt get addicted until about ep. 12 where I couldn’t stop watching. The drama I’m sure isnt for everyone but I suggest give it atleast 10 ep. to see if it’s for you.
Thank you @trinpie@zetteceniza!
I’m going to wait until 10 episode. I’m also going to read the first few chapters of the novel. I’ve always do this for C-drama, it’s also my only complain. The viewers should be able to enjoy a drama without looking for guidance and reference outside the show itself.
However once everything is set, a C-drama can be really enjoyable sometimes more than k-drama.
It took me a long time. I’m not sure what made me soldiered on. But once I got into it, I binge watch it. C dramas are weird in this sense. It take a number of eps and then before you know it, you finished a 50 ep drama in a blink of an eye.
I wish I can be more helpful but I can’t even pin point at which part it hooked me. What helped immensely is that I found Wei Wu Xian charismatic and the two leads incredibly beautiful, a term which I normally hate to use on men.
ITA, C-drama is weird like that, most of them took me 5-6 hours to understand the world that the writer trying to tell us. There’s only few C-drama that I could get into the story without googling here and there; Nirvana in Fire 2 (maybe because I already watched the first one) and another cdramas that I’m currently watching, Day and Night. I wish all C-drama could be like Day and Night.
She probably already pestered Jang Nara to share the fountain of youth 😄
I think Jang Nara was right when she said that people with her facial features always look younger than their real age.
I finally subscribed to Caravan in order to watch The Longest Day in Chang\’an on TV. But then…why everyone look more yellowish?? Is it because my TV is old so it\’s not compatible with YouTube?? But it was okay with Nirvana in Fire…
Sigh..back to my laptop.
I heard it is very difficult to become a naturalized citizen of Japan. Cho Sarang\’s appa was still a SK citizen until his mid 20s although he is a third generation Korean in Japan.
Then how Tae-ik could be a naturalized Japanese in a short time?
The outlined criteria for naturalization are provided in Article 5 of the Nationality Act:[7]
Continuous residence in Japan for 5 years
At least 20 years old and otherwise legally competent
History of good behavior generally, and no past history of seditious behavior
Sufficient capital or skills, either personally or within family, to support oneself in Japan
Stateless or willing to renounce foreign citizenship and swear allegiance to Japan.
Pretty mild requirements I would say. I never knew Japanese citizenship was this easy to get. In compared to many other countries.
Well, for many people it is, many it is not, depends on where you are from and where you going to… (I would be happy to … saves a huge amount of money on Visa fees for people who travel as much as I do and even the great amount of time and effort and paper work from bureaucrats)
Tong Liya and Lei Jiayin should be paired in a 48 episodes C-drama. I can’t get enough of their chemistry.
The movie itself is not great but it gives me all the feels and makes me laugh. It’s still a successful romcom in my book.
mano
December 5, 2022 at 7:12 AM
Since I finished flower of evil two weeks ago, I don’t have anything to watch anymore 😢
mano
November 15, 2022 at 10:55 AM
OMG, I love Flower of Evil. It’s sooo gooooddd. Asndjdhdhsjsjxjsjs
mano
July 28, 2021 at 10:34 PM
Wigen, wtf… So mun wasn’t dead when she entered his body without his consent. Offered him a job that he didn’t ask and promised him a meeting with his parents. Now she dumped him just like that.
mano
July 27, 2021 at 4:19 AM
I just started The Uncanny Counter. I think it’s the first time since forever I found a K-drama with high-schooler characters who do look like high-school students 😄
mano
November 7, 2019 at 3:24 AM
Currently watching Leverage because my favourite Hyung from He is Psychometric is in this drama 😆
mano
November 4, 2019 at 4:41 AM
Does Baek-kyung really like Dan-ho? Or he just doesn’t want to be upstaged by Haru?
Saner
November 4, 2019 at 7:08 AM
He tooootally likes her but took her for granted AND is now ‘losing’ her to someone else.
So, Tantrum Land.
mano
November 4, 2019 at 7:48 AM
But he never said anything about his feeling towards Dan-oh. It’s always “ya, Haru. You’re an extra, so act like one”. To me he looks like he’s more concerned about an extra who potentially could upstage him/alter the stage more than Dan-oh.
WishfulToki
November 4, 2019 at 8:51 AM
I think the answer to your question is “both”. He’s a tsundere on and off the stage, and he is also jealous of Haru. He likes Dan-oh but most of the time doesn’t know how to act decently (thank goodness she told him). Ultimately he’s afraid. He’s lost everything he thought was real, including Dan-oh’s affection, so he sees Haru as a threat.
Saner
November 4, 2019 at 11:25 AM
Also, I think he’s super bitter that everyone’s ‘real’ selves can’t really get on with him. He genuinely seemed to enjoy having Haru as a loyal friend and actually stopped winding people up for like, 2.5 seconds.
So maybe it feels like a double betrayal to have such strong and unwavering loyalty that he tested, trusted and leaned on to be taken away: no matter how awful he was to Dan Oh, she fawned over him. Haru would help him out and do kind things for him without prompting and quite insistently.
No-one in his life does that for him!
And Haru is (now) at the intersection of both of those broken connections.
Rather than curse the writer (I think he’s the one person we haven’t seen give them a curse word or 5), he blames Haru. And he purposefully targets Dan Oh now in order to wind up Haru because it’s the one thing that does rile him up and get a reaction, even if Haru knows Baek Kyung is doing it on purpose.
And I think that both amuses and infuriates him, to see how sincere and deep and sure Haru’s feelings towards Dan Oh are besides his flickering feelings which he’s still sorting through in typical tsundere manner.
Because life was simpler before Haru turned up so it must be Haru’s fault life is now like this #BrokenLogic #BaekKyungLogic
mano
November 7, 2019 at 3:28 AM
I can’t help feeling sorry for Baek-kyung. I don’t know if it’s because I really the character (despite his flaws) or simply for Lee Jae-wook. I hope the writer will give Baek-kyung a good ending.
mano
October 28, 2019 at 6:50 AM
I love Vagabond! Can’t wait to see mandatory hospital scene next week 😆😆
mano
October 12, 2019 at 2:05 AM
NIS in vagabond is really incompetent. I can’t believe this! SK should hv the best spy in the world, their next door neighbor is one of the most dangerous cult with nuclear missile. Come on!
shach
October 12, 2019 at 3:33 AM
They are/were too busy spying on internet commentors to catch terrorists 😉
mano
October 12, 2019 at 6:09 PM
LoL, it seems how modern day spying runs around the world.
shach
October 13, 2019 at 12:47 AM
Yes, but for real, under former president NIS was spying on people who dare to left critcal comments about her on internet.
mano
October 26, 2019 at 2:14 AM
SK has real threat next door, yet the president acted like a CEO of idol company. That’s ridiculous.
mano
October 10, 2019 at 2:07 AM
Should I finish Hell is Other People?
I’m stuck at epi 5. I hate the sunbae hyung, is he going to be more significant in the next episode?
mano
September 23, 2019 at 10:33 AM
I just started Be Melodramatic, the first episode is really really good.
wapz
September 23, 2019 at 12:22 PM
You’re in for a fun, calm but meaningful ride.
drawde2000
September 23, 2019 at 1:47 PM
I have recently started this drama as well. Just finished ep 3, in fact. It is so good. I left work early today, so I can watch a few more episodes.
I blame The Untamed and The longest Day in Chang’an for not know how good this is beforehand😁😁😁. I’m glad I’m aware of it now.
Waadmay
September 23, 2019 at 2:53 PM
You’re in for a very good watch , enjoy it ♥️💚
tsutsuloo
September 24, 2019 at 7:06 AM
Yaaaaay! I adore this show so very, very much.
mano
September 16, 2019 at 8:12 AM
I just finished The Longest Day in Chang’an, an hour before my caravan subscription ends 😄
I love about this show more than Nirvana in Fire because TLDIC is a story about common people. Most costume dramas that I know have royals and nobles as the leads, but in Chang’an the story revolves around minorities, small vendors, lower level soldiers and civil servants. I think this is a story about their revenges.
drawde2000
September 16, 2019 at 8:21 AM
I finished it as well this weekend.
I’m just trying to absorb the series. I’m trying to criticize this objectively as a whole. The break I took somewhat lessened my excitement.
Overall, it truly is a quality drama. I really love the technical and visuals aspects of the drama. The costumes, The acting, the lighting and photography. They are all high quality. But it’s the characters and my lack of emotional attachment to them that’s giving me hard time, specially coming from binged watching The Untamed. The ending was sort of weak as well.
I’m conflicted, basically. But it’s truly one high quality drama.
mano
September 17, 2019 at 2:30 AM
The production value is amazing. Sometimes I wish some scene should be made into movie than a TV show.
The ending is a bit underwhelming, but overall I really love it. I can relate to Xu Bin, Long Bo, Wen Ran and their frustration. Now my question is, where did Xu Bin get all those gold? I really hope we will get the answer in season 2.
mano
September 15, 2019 at 8:47 AM
After 40+ episodes I find that Long Bo is hot as well 😄
Not as hot as ZXJ though
In c-drama, guys in armour always look hot. I don’t feel that way with guys in european medieval costume drama.
mano
August 31, 2019 at 1:04 PM
Now I’m on my third attempt to watch The Untamed, I still don’t find it interesting. It got 9.3 rating on MDL, higher than Nirvana in Fire. Chang’an only got 8.8, so The Untamed must be good, right?
Trinity 🍆
August 31, 2019 at 1:53 PM
The Untamed is one of my fav dramas but even I admit the beginning was poorly done. The first 2 ep. is very confusing as you have no idea who any of the characters are or what is happening. And some of the acting is a bit cringey and awkward in the beginning. I didnt really start getting into the drama until ep. 6 or 7 and didnt get addicted until about ep. 12 where I couldn’t stop watching. The drama I’m sure isnt for everyone but I suggest give it atleast 10 ep. to see if it’s for you.
zette
August 31, 2019 at 4:40 PM
I also suggest you read the first few chapters of the novel (https://exiledrebelsscanlations.com/grandmaster-of-demonic-cultivation/) to clear up some of the confusion. I was really confused as well. I’m hoping it’s just a slow burn for you and that you won’t drop it for good. 🙂
mano
August 31, 2019 at 8:39 PM
Thank you @trinpie @zetteceniza!
I’m going to wait until 10 episode. I’m also going to read the first few chapters of the novel. I’ve always do this for C-drama, it’s also my only complain. The viewers should be able to enjoy a drama without looking for guidance and reference outside the show itself.
However once everything is set, a C-drama can be really enjoyable sometimes more than k-drama.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 31, 2019 at 9:10 PM
It took me a long time. I’m not sure what made me soldiered on. But once I got into it, I binge watch it. C dramas are weird in this sense. It take a number of eps and then before you know it, you finished a 50 ep drama in a blink of an eye.
I wish I can be more helpful but I can’t even pin point at which part it hooked me. What helped immensely is that I found Wei Wu Xian charismatic and the two leads incredibly beautiful, a term which I normally hate to use on men.
mano
August 31, 2019 at 11:16 PM
ITA, C-drama is weird like that, most of them took me 5-6 hours to understand the world that the writer trying to tell us. There’s only few C-drama that I could get into the story without googling here and there; Nirvana in Fire 2 (maybe because I already watched the first one) and another cdramas that I’m currently watching, Day and Night. I wish all C-drama could be like Day and Night.
mano
August 29, 2019 at 6:16 AM
Happy birthday to my favourite Gege. I’ve been busy lately, can’t even finish TLDIC 😭😭
mano
August 21, 2019 at 7:36 AM
Jang Nara and Zhao Liying could be sisters.
KSKalways
August 21, 2019 at 7:49 AM
uncanny resemblance indeed!
but does Zhao Liying age as slowly as Jang Nara? LOL
mano
August 21, 2019 at 8:07 AM
She probably already pestered Jang Nara to share the fountain of youth 😄
I think Jang Nara was right when she said that people with her facial features always look younger than their real age.
misspeppermimi
August 21, 2019 at 9:23 AM
That’s how I got into kdrama. I couldn’t tell them apart, otherwise I would still be watching only cdramas
purplefall
August 21, 2019 at 6:54 PM
Jang Nara is definitely a vampire hahaha, she doesn’t change at all!!! Still remember Hwayuki’s joke about her youth secret ^^
mano
August 16, 2019 at 12:35 PM
I finally subscribed to Caravan in order to watch The Longest Day in Chang\’an on TV. But then…why everyone look more yellowish?? Is it because my TV is old so it\’s not compatible with YouTube?? But it was okay with Nirvana in Fire…
Sigh..back to my laptop.
mano
August 13, 2019 at 10:23 AM
Currently watching a k-movie Extreme Job. So eventually they really run a Los Pollos Hermanos? 😄😄
mano
August 13, 2019 at 7:15 AM
I heard it is very difficult to become a naturalized citizen of Japan. Cho Sarang\’s appa was still a SK citizen until his mid 20s although he is a third generation Korean in Japan.
Then how Tae-ik could be a naturalized Japanese in a short time?
KSKalways
August 13, 2019 at 11:55 AM
ya know! How?!?
oppafangirl
August 13, 2019 at 1:01 PM
The outlined criteria for naturalization are provided in Article 5 of the Nationality Act:[7]
Continuous residence in Japan for 5 years
At least 20 years old and otherwise legally competent
History of good behavior generally, and no past history of seditious behavior
Sufficient capital or skills, either personally or within family, to support oneself in Japan
Stateless or willing to renounce foreign citizenship and swear allegiance to Japan.
Pretty mild requirements I would say. I never knew Japanese citizenship was this easy to get. In compared to many other countries.
oppafangirl
August 13, 2019 at 1:05 PM
Given the fact that it is world’s most powerful passport to have… you can travel almost anywhere in the world without visa.
KSKalways
August 13, 2019 at 1:34 PM
Renouncing your foreign citizenship can’t be easy. That’s a lot to ask of a person…
Thanks for the info, @oppafangirl!
oppafangirl
August 13, 2019 at 2:03 PM
Well, for many people it is, many it is not, depends on where you are from and where you going to… (I would be happy to … saves a huge amount of money on Visa fees for people who travel as much as I do and even the great amount of time and effort and paper work from bureaucrats)
mano
August 13, 2019 at 6:13 PM
Thank you @oppafangirl
mano
August 12, 2019 at 2:37 AM
Coughing blood in C-drama is similar with nose bleed in K-drama, to show that a character is in distress.
suk
August 12, 2019 at 12:59 PM
Coughing blood?? In distress vs serious medical condition might not always match up
mano
August 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM
It’s really over the top 😄
In real life, I never seen anyone coughing blood. Only on TV in movies/series or tuberculosis PSA.
suk
August 12, 2019 at 8:59 PM
Tuberculosis PSA 😂
mano
August 9, 2019 at 2:16 AM
Tong Liya and Lei Jiayin should be paired in a 48 episodes C-drama. I can’t get enough of their chemistry.
The movie itself is not great but it gives me all the feels and makes me laugh. It’s still a successful romcom in my book.