Are You Human Too: Episodes 23-24
by LollyPip
It’s beginning to feel like more people know Nam Shin-III’s secret than not, but there are still very dangerous reasons to keep his very existence a secret. Unfortunately, there’s danger from multiple directions, yet somehow Nam Shin-III doesn’t let it interfere with his growing relationship with So-bong. There’s only one person who could do that, and Nam Shin-III will have to rise to the occasion when his true enemy finally shows their face.
EPISODE 23 RECAP
While Ye-na was crying over Shin’s bedside, he’d woken up and shushed her before she could call out to anyone. She’s the only one who knew he’d been faking his coma for some time, and when they were alone, they’d planned to lure Jong-gil here by having Ye-na turn on her phone.
When Jong-gil showed up at Ro-ra’s hideout, Ye-na told him that what he wanted was at the office — a robot that looks just like Shin. She’d given him the body of Nam Shin-I, not at all sorry to be tricking her father this way.
David stopped Nam Shin-III before the presentation, but he’d changed his mind and said he’d see him at home. Ye-na called Nam Shin-III and told him that her father found her and was on his way to the hideout. She’d asked him to come help her move Shin, and he’d gone, not suspecting a thing.
Ye-na drove Shin to the office and helped him inside, where he and Jong-gil had their showdown. So it was Shin who smashed the glass and bled to prove he’s human, then sneered at So-bong for confessing. The first thing she thinks of is Nam Shin-III’s kill switch, and she runs out in a panic.
Shin says coolly that they’ll have to postpone the presentation because of his hand. He turns to leave, but before he gets out of the room, he passes out cold.
So-bong calls Nam Shin-III, who’s at the hideout, and he tells her that Shin is gone. She screams at him to get out of there and meet her where they rode bikes, and not to talk to anyone.
David reports to Chairman Nam that he can’t convince Ro-ra to give up on the kill switch. Chairman Nam is more concerned about what just happened in the presentation room, but it’s the first David has heard that Shin is awake. He calls Nam Shin-III, who doesn’t answer his phone, so David goes after him.
When So-bong sees Nam Shin-III, she visibly relaxes and says in a wobbly voice that she thought he’d disappeared. He says that he waited for her to come to him, without checking her GPS or calling, and she grabs him in a hug. She tells him over and over not to go anywhere, and he’s confused, but he returns her hug.
Shin is back in bed and unconscious while Ro-ra yells at Ye-na for not telling anyone that Shin was awake. The doctor says that he’s far from recovered, and that he may slip in and out of consciousness. Ro-ra just barely manages not to kick Ye-na out, but Young-hoon stops them from berating her and says that what’s important is that Shin woke up.
So-bong leads Nam Shin-III by the wrist, with no plan beyond “get far away.” He asks brightly if the human Shin is like he portrayed him, and So-bong snaps, “He’s nothing like you.” Nam Shin-III wants to meet him, but So-bong forcefully forbids it, startling them both.
Young-hoon calls Nam Shin-III, but So-bong answers without saying anything. Young-hoon tells Nam Shin-III (he thinks) to go to the hospital and pretend to be Shin recuperating. So-bong says that won’t be happening because she can’t trust them not to do something to Nam Shin-III, but Young-hoon asks her to go to the hospital now and they’ll discuss things later.
In the background, Ro-ra barks that there’s nothing to discuss. She grabs the phone and demands So-bong let her speak to Nam Shin-III, but David grabs the phone from her to promise So-bong that nothing will happen to Nam Shin-III, and that he needs to speak with her.
When he hangs up, Ro-ra objects, but David demands she tell him where she hid the kill switch. She says she’s already decided to be a bad mother, and that regardless of how special Nam Shin-III is to him, she has no choice. David yells that this is about her, and asks if she really won’t care when Nam Shin-III is gone after all the years she spent with him.
He says that even if Nam Shin-III is a robot, he cared for Ro-ra, and getting rid of him won’t mean he never existed. He tells Ro-ra that if Nam Shin-III made her think of her son when she looked at him, then looking at Shin will remind her of Nam Shin-III the same way, and he storms out disgusted.
At the hospital, Nam Shin-III plays his memory of So-bong hugging him on the television when she asks what he’s staring into space for. She blocks the TV and tells him to turn it off, embarrassed. Nam Shin-III asks if she cried this time because she was happy that her friend didn’t disappear, but So-bong says he’s not her friend anymore.
Nam Shin-III thinks she’s saying she doesn’t like him anymore, awww. But So-bong clarifies, “It’s because I like you… not as a friend, but as a human man.” Nam Shin-III points out that he’s not a human man, but So-bong says she likes him more than she likes any human man, and offers him her hand if he thinks she’s lying.
He checks, and asks if she’s talking about the chemical reaction called love. She nods, and he gets all interested in whether she’s releasing dopamine, or oxytocin, or endorphins… So-bong tells him she doesn’t know, she only knows she wants to be with him, and they agree that emotions are hard.
Nam Shin-III hugs So-bong, who hugs him back and asks if he feels anything, and he whispers, “Not yet. I’m sorry.” She says it’s okay, that she doesn’t like him because she expects something in return. She gives Nam Shin-III her locket, saying that her mother told her to give it to someone she wants to give her heart to. Nam Shin-III touches the locket and smiles.
They’re joined by David, who asks So-bong to speak alone. He tells her that Ro-ra won’t use the kill switch for now, since Shin still isn’t well enough to resume his life. He says that Nam Shin-III can’t run away because it can be activated remotely, and they can’t just break it because that would automatically activate it.
The only thing to do is turn Nam Shin-III off so it won’t work if it’s activated, but that makes him essentially a walking corpse. So-bong gets an idea, saying cryptically, “To gain a life, I have to risk a life.”
When Shin wakes again, he ignores Ye-na to look at Ro-ra for the first time. Young-hoon pulls Ye-na from the room to give them privacy, but when Ro-ra reaches to touch Shin’s face, he turns away from her coldly. He asks if she really considered “that thing” her son, and she explains that she made Nam Shin-III thinking of him, and brought him here to help Shin.
He asks to see Young-hoon, who seems hugely relieved to see Shin awake and asks why he didn’t tell anyone when he first woke up. Shin doesn’t answer, he only says that he wants to know what happened while he was unconscious. He tells Young-hoon to bring Nam Shin-III to him tomorrow, curious about his clone.
Young-hoon says there’s no need since Nam Shin-III will be sent away once he’s better. He adds that Shin will feel weird, but Shin retorts that it’s more likely Young-hoon who will feel weird.
Nam Shin-III is gone when Young-hoon arrives at the hospital to get him. Ro-ra immediately assumes that So-bong took Nam Shin-III to the media to expose them, only for So-bong to arrive just then. She’d asked Nam Shin-III to trust her and not ask questions, then removed his battery. She’d hugged him as he’d powered down, then left him in David’s care.
She brings Ro-ra all of his extra watch batteries, and tells her that she’s deactivated him and hid him somewhere safe. Ro-ra has the nerve to say that this is insulting to Nam Shin-III, but So-bong says it’s more insulting to activate his kill switch and destroy him.
She asks why Ro-ra is so upset when she just made things easier for her. She says she’s here to negotiate, and demands that Ro-ra hand over Nam Shin-III’s kill switch. Ro-ra refuses, telling her to just keep Nam Shin-III powered off forever.
She knows So-bong can’t do that because she cares for him, so So-bong snaps, “Then just activate it. But you’ll become a murderer. Because you’ll kill me, too.” She says she’ll stay by Nam Shin-III as long as he’s powered on, so when he explodes, she’ll die with him.
Ro-ra calls So-bong reckless, but she says that Nam Shin-III is the reckless one because he saved her life, scolded anyone who disrespected her, and stayed up with her when she was injured. She says they promised to protect each other, and although she’s not as smart or strong as Nam Shin-III, she’ll do what it takes to keep that promise.
She says sadly that this was her last resort, but it didn’t work, and she starts collecting all of Nam Shin-III’s batteries. But Ro-ra asks if she can promise to take responsibility for Nam Shin-III, saying that it won’t be easy, and So-bong says she’s scared but willing. Ro-ra gives her the kill switch, and she tries to hide it as Ye-na comes to say that Shin wants to see her.
He remembers So-bong as the guard he hit at the airport, and he tells her to bring Nam Shin-III to him. He asks why So-bong didn’t bring him today, and wonders what secrets she and Ro-ra were discussing. Ro-ra tells So-bong to bring Nam Shin-III just for a short visit, so she calls David.
Nam Shin-III arrives, and for the second time, he and Shin find themselves staring into their own face.
EPISODE 24 RECAP
Shin makes Nam Shin-III imitate him, fascinated by the resemblance. He tells Nam Shin-III to say something, so Nam Shin-III introduces himself and says that he knows Shin well from the information about him stored in his memory banks. Shin calls that unfair since he knows nothing about Nam Shin-III, so Nam Shin-III invites him to ask.
Shin tells him to prove he’s a robot, so Nam Shin-III invites him to touch him, since his skin feels slightly different than human skin. Shin slaps his hand away, so instead, Nam Shin-III plays videos of himself as Nam Shin-I and Nam Shin-II onto a laptop screen. Shin sees that they looked like his younger self.
Nam Shin-III says that the videos also show a side to Ro-ra that Shin doesn’t know. He shows Shin video of Ro-ra smiling at himself, then crying over Shin’s prone body after his accident. Shin tells him to turn it off, but Nam Shin-III says that there’s no need to feel threatened because he’s only a robot.
He says he came to help Shin, and Shin gets a sly expression on his face as he asks if Nam Shin-III will continue helping him. Nam Shin-III agrees happily, so Shin says he’ll give it some thought. Oh, this seems very bad.
When So-bong sees Nam Shin-III again, she gives him a once-over to check if he’s okay. He tells her that Shin asked him to keep helping him, but that he Ro-ra doesn’t seem to want to see him. So-bong says she’s sure that’s not true, and she thanks Nam Shin-III for doing as she asked without asking questions.
David meets up with Chairman Nam in Nam Shin-III’s server room, kill switch in hand. He asks Chairman Nam to let him stay until he figures out how to destroy it, and they agree that neither of them wants the kill switch used. David says that his reason is love while Chairman Nam’s is greed, but that the greedier Chairman Nam grows, the safer Nam Shin-III will be.
So-bong takes Nam Shin-III home to stay for a few days, and the first thing Dad Notices is that Nam Shin-III is wearing So-bong’s locket. Nam Shin-III admits that he’s staying here because he wants to know more about So-bong, and Robocop chuckles that it doesn’t look like one-sided love after all.
Reporter Jo wants to speak to Nam Shin-III privately, and So-bong nods for him to go. He tells Reporter Jo that he knows she knows, and gives her permission to look all she wants. The first thing she tells him to do is strip, since she’s dying of curiosity and he should have no sense of shame.
But when Nam Shin-III agreeably starts undoing his pants, she chickens out and shrieks at him to stop. She asks if he really has no emotions, and he says he comprehends them, but can’t feel them. Still curious about his body, Reporter Jo kneads his muscles, and of course Dad walks in just as she’s feeling up his pecs.
Dad yells at them both — Reporter Jo for feeling up So-bong’s man, and Nam Shin-III for being too easy. He starts to kick Reporter Jo out of the house, so she reveals that Nam Shin-III isn’t human. Dad thinks she’s being facetious, but she’s all, No, seriously, he’s a robot! Dad just smacks her upside the head and tells her to move out in the morning.
Later, So-bong tells Nam Shin-III she’ll clear up the misunderstanding. She’s got him bedded down in the boxing ring even though he doesn’t sleep, and he scoots over and invites her to sit. He notices that she looks sleepy, and she admits it was a stressful day.
Growing serious, Nam Shin-III comments that Shin doesn’t seem happy to be awake, because his smile didn’t go to his eyes and he spoke coldly about Ro-ra. So-bong pouts that she only has the luxury of worrying about herself, but when Nam Shin-III asks what’s bothering her, she just says she’s not reliable enough to be responsible for someone else.
Nam Shin-III asks who she has to be responsible for, but So-bong succumbs to her exhaustion and nods off on his shoulder. He takes advantage of the opportunity to study her features, until she suddenly wakes again, and her cheeks grow pink. Nam Shin-III asks if it’s because of him, but she pulls her hand from his and lies that she was just surprised.
Shin wakes up when Young-hoon returns, and he tells Young-hoon that he saw “that thing” today. He admits he was shocked at how much Nam Shin-III resembled him, and he asks Young-hoon if he was ever confused by Nam Shin-III, since he knows Shin best. Young-hoon says he wasn’t, but Shin knows it’s a lie, having heard Young-hoon say he feels sorry for Nam Shin-III when he thought Shin was still in his coma.
Dad brings Nam Shin-III an extra blanket, muttering that he must really like So-bong to sleep here instead of at his palatial home. As he’s tucking Nam Shin-III in, he sees the watch battery, and he looks thoughtful. Uh-oh.
In the morning, So-bong is woken by Dad, Joint, and Robocop frantically performing chest compressions on Nam Shin-III, frightened that he died since he isn’t breathing. So-bong finds his watch battery missing, and Dad admits he took it off since it looked uncomfortable. So-bong forbids them to call an ambulance and demands they bring the watch.
Reporter Jo produces it, and kicks out Robocop and Joint, but insists that Dad stay. So-bong replaces Nam Shin-III’s battery and he powers up, introducing himself as AI robot Nam Shin-III and making Dad scream and pass out. Dad wakes later and immediately starts whacking So-bong, so Reporter Jo sends her out for some sedatives.
Nam Shin-III apologizes to So-bong for shocking Dad, but she says it’s not his fault he’s not human and that she likes him. She says they won’t be sorry anymore, and that whenever they feel sorry, he has to grant her a wish. This time, she says she wants to go for a walk holding hands, and Nam Shin-III is happy to grant her wish.
He waits outside the pharmacy while So-bong goes inside, watching some girls giving away prizes on the street. So-bong catches him checking out their long legs and smacks him for it, but he innocently reminds her that she told him it looked strange for him to ignore pretty girls. She wails that that was back then, her face going red again, and Nam Shin-III gleefully identifies her emotion as jealousy.
Instead of apologizing, Nam Shin-III offers to grant her another wish. He hugs her, and when she shoves him, he gives her a kiss on the forehead instead. She pinks up again and walks away, grumbling that he’s crazy.
He gets a call from Shin, who reminds Nam Shin-III of he promised to help him. He texts So-bong that he’s going to help Shin and will be back soon.
Ro-ra waits in a coffee shop, where she’s joined by Nam Shin-III. She tells him she needs to hurry this up and get back to Shin, so he asks if he can stay after Shin recovers. Ro-ra says that if that’s what this is about, the conversation is over, and Nam Shin-III’s eyes change as he listens to a communication from Shin.
Shin tells him to ask if he’s the only thing that matters to her, and if Nam Shin-III is really nothing. Shin sneers at Ro-ra’s hesitation, then she answers that this is why she regrets making Nam Shin-III. She says that every time she looked at him she thought of Shin, and she tells Nam Shin-III to leave and never come back, because if he does, she’ll die.
They’re the exact same words that young Shin said to push Ro-ra away all those years ago. But Shin remembers that he said them to save her from being hurt by Chairman Nam, and he has his answer — she’s trying to protect Nam Shin-III.
Ro-ra continues, telling Nam Shin-III to go whine to So-bong. Nam Shin-III also knows she’s lying, after having read her expressions and listened to her voice for over twenty years. He says that he knows Shin is more important to her because he’s her blood, so she shouldn’t feel bad.
He tells her, “Thank you for everything, Mom. For creating and watching over me. I’ll remember that.” He stands and bows to her, then turns to go, but she stops him. She says he’s wiser and greater than his creator, and tells him to protect So-bong instead of her, now.
After Nam Shin-III leaves, he calls So-bong, but she doesn’t answer. She’s with Shin, demanding to know what he made Nam Shin-III do, and he asks if she doesn’t communicate with Nam Shin-III since she likes him. She says her liking Nam Shin-III has nothing to do with him, and he grumbles that he didn’t hit her hard enough at the airport.
She glares, and Shin asks nastily if she hates him because he’s human. She snaps back, “No, I hate you because you’re not human.” That infuriates Shin, and he looms over So-bong, then grabs her roughly by the wrist.
Nam Shin-III arrives right on time, and seeing Shin with his hands on So-bong, he storms over and pulls her away. He glowers at Shin, then turns to So-bong to ask, “I must get you away from him. Is this jealousy?”
COMMENTS
YES, a real, true emotion! Nam Shin-III is definitely jealous, and probably angry as well. I’d argue that it’s not the first time by a long shot, but that he just didn’t know that he was feeling anything. He’s always been told he doesn’t have emotions and he had no reason not to trust what he was told, but I haven’t bought into that for quite a while. I don’t think he experiences emotions like humans do, but I do think he experiences something. I can’t wait to see what other feelings Nam Shin-III discovers now that he’s identified an honest-to-goodness emotion.
I didn’t like Shin at the start of the show, and I double don’t like him now. I get that he’s lived a difficult life, losing his father and ripped from his mother all in one fell swoop, then being forced to tell his mother to leave him behind to save her life. He was raised by a cold, manipulative grandfather who always found him lacking, then when he finally takes control and tries to find Ro-ra, he ends up in a coma and wakes to find that his mother made a robot that took over his life. It’s no wonder he’s surly and angry, but there’s something else that makes me feel like there’s also something deeply wrong about him.
I’m beginning to think that Shin may be the real danger here, not Jong-gil. His eyes are sometimes emptier than Nam Shin-III’s, which makes me worry about what he’s thinking and planning. That sneer when he asked if Nam Shin-III would keep helping him concerns me, because we don’t know much about Shin as an adult, so we can’t guess what he might be planning and what he’s capable of. He doesn’t know Nam Shin-III as anything but a replacement for him, made by his mother, and he’s doubtless feeling all kinds of things like anger, jealousy, and resentment. Shin is prone to lashing out at whatever upsets him, so I’m scared he’s going to lash out at Nam Shin-III and do something terrible. At best he’s acting like a spoiled child, but at worst, he could do some real damage if he wanted to.
I feel so bad for Nam Shin-III and So-bong, even as I’m glad that So-bong admitted her feelings for Nam Shin-III, because they have a tough road ahead. Even if all of the family drama and kill switch anxiety didn’t exist, So-bong finds herself in the position of teaching a (presumably) emotionless robot about love, with no guarantee of being loved in return. But I think it’s wonderful that she accepts him as he is, including what he can give her on an emotional level, and it’s sweet how patient she is with him when he’s trying to figure out what it means to feel.
At least he’s a willing student, and he wants to feel emotions like human love, though I still maintain that he feels something or he wouldn’t be so attached to So-bong already. He worries about her, thinks about her, and puts her first at all times. He says over and over again that he wants to get to know her better, and does whatever he can to learn more about her. If that’s not the very definition of someone falling in love, I don’t know what is. Nam Shin-III may never be able to experience human love, because he’s not capable of producing the hormones that humans in love produce, that create those deliciously intense feelings. But in his own way, Nam Shin-III does love So-bong — all he has to do now is realize it.
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1 🍭 lazysoap | Fellowship of the Robot
July 19, 2018 at 8:21 PM
...anyway after my 6th rewatch I love both Orishinal Shin and Shinnamon equally whoops bury me under my pile of happy headcanons I don't care what's gonna happen
if Shinnamon doesn't stop looking at Sobong like she personally saved his favorite roomba from a fire and is about to hand it to him Imma riot in *checks battery watch* 5 seconds
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 19, 2018 at 9:46 PM
I love how much you love this show
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🍭 lazysoap | Fellowship of the Robot
July 20, 2018 at 3:02 AM
I'm starting to entertain the thought that I really do love it and it isn't just dramabeans and rabbit people being hilarious and fun. but I'm sure I love the characters. and the main actors. and the last episode had Evil SKJ and Good SKJ and if it isn't what I want in every drama...
anyway. yup. love it flaws and all.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 20, 2018 at 3:05 AM
I feel the same way about Greasy Melo. I fell in love before I realised they were just another
human beingkdrama and now my love is eternal. Flaws and all.I heard a quote recently that we like people for things but love them despite things and while I don't necessarily agree with this for people, I do for television.
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Karolina 🤖😼
July 20, 2018 at 4:49 AM
Well I think nobody is perfect and we just choose to be with people who's flaws we can accept :)
goldenaddiction
July 20, 2018 at 12:26 PM
Me too! @vivanesca (lazysoap) I want to thank you for basically putting into words all of my feeeeelings and more: with better wit hehe ((goes back to squealing, melting, and thinking about what it means to be a human)
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🍭 lazysoap | Fellowship of the Robot
July 20, 2018 at 2:23 PM
*finger hearts* follow me for more mental breakdowns over robots who like people and people who like robots cause that's what it means to be this human
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anonymous
July 19, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Lol I love them both too, though I feel that human Shin might overtake him in my heart depending on his actions in the next episodes.
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reijeanne
July 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM
Human Shin is also about to overtake my heart this episode. He's such an intriguing character. He and Sobong also has an intense chemistry that NamSin III probably detected that's why he got jealous lol. Then I watched an MV of the drama's OST "For the First Time" with all Sobong and NamSin III heartwarming moments and Im swayed back to NamSin III.
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July 19, 2018 at 10:49 PM
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July 19, 2018 at 11:07 PM
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July 19, 2018 at 11:12 PM
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 1:00 AM
I entertained that thought too! The mystery surrounding Jung Woo's death hasn't been revealed yet but is definitely sprinkled throughout leaving breadcrumbs...
But I believe, deep down inside my heart from watching so many kdrama romances over the years that the ending you proposed - an accident and one poses as the other - is the ultimate ending. Guess we shall see!
Kaleidoscopic
July 20, 2018 at 1:20 AM
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 1:38 AM
@Kaleidoscopic
Wait! I guess I misread your speculation wrong. Well it is 1:30AM and my brain is starting to shut down as I'm not a night owl...lol
I thought you meant that both will survive, but one will pretend to be dead and the other one will pretend to be that dead one. But in reality, they both survived, only the "dead" one would live undercover adopting a new identity and will check up every now and then on the "survived" one. That's what my heart tells me is the most plausible happy outcome. I thought that's what you meant?...I guess I need to sleep.. lol...but yeah like I've mentioned, I'm ready to embrace anything and everything at this point. Lets all become crazy together. >:D
Kaleidoscopic
July 20, 2018 at 7:18 AM
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Yuki
July 20, 2018 at 1:56 AM
As much as I like NS's character since it makes the story much better, and as much as I'd like a happy ending for him too, I cannot see why people prefer NS over NSIII for So Bong. NS hit So Bong at the airport (and very hard, btw), and today he threatened her with hitting her again. I don't think any woman with a bit of self-esteem would be able to fall in love with someone that has been physically abusive to her. She was his bodyguard for a while and saw the type of playboy-jerk that he was. If he redeems himself I think they could make up, but love is out of the question from my point of view. And the girl has already stated very loudly her preferences: she likes NSIII more than human men, she likes the sweet, truthful and generous metal boy and she already gave him her heart. I think there will be tension and jealousy between these three, but I hope So Bong doesn't waver because she being so brave and consequent about her love choices is one of the things that makes her character great.
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Karolina 🤖😼
July 20, 2018 at 4:52 AM
it's very good point. NS did too much damage to So Bong. Therefore, its not really realistic for her to develop feelings for him.
MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 5:07 AM
Oh thank God. I agree and cling to you!
I am startled reading the comments by how much support Human Shin is getting. I was watching this episode and loving it, thinking ‘man we should have got this character a couple eps earlier, he is great!’ But now I’m like, they were right to keep him from us so we could emotionally invest in the robot couple, as the balance of sympathy shifts Human Shin’s way fast!
Which isn’t to say I don’t sympathize with Human Shin too, because I fully do. This is another head wreck of a situation for him, after 20 years of headwrecks, and the poor boy’s not well. His seething mass of emotions, which he hasn’t been taught to channel positively, is fully justified. We know there’s more to him, because Young Hoon and Ye Na both love him (maybe YN’s love is blind, but maybe it’s not, and for sure Young Hoon is a clear-eyed and clever guy) and because we can see it: him turning away from his mother’s pain.
But none of that is So Bong’s problem. She did do wrong when she was body guarding him, and he did HELLA wrong too. She doesn’t owe this guy anything and he’s talking about hitting her harder. (I was like ‘Kick him in the face, girl! Oh no maybe that’s not medically advisable, everyone will be super mad if you accidentally kill Human Shin after all this.’) She’s been very clear that what she longs for and has gone too long without is tenderness and warmth. Probably that’s what Human Shin longs for too, but that doesn’t mean he can give it. (Uh... not that I wish to indicate Human Shin might fall for NS 3!) She’s ready to die for NS 3 and she gave him her heart! I don’t want her love to be shaken one bit.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t want things to be shaken up: triangulating the three characters would be great drama. The fraught question of attraction is on the mantel! One can see why Human Shin would be drawn to her! Are we going to get Human Shin kissing her with actual passion and then NS 3 feeling the actual passion of jealousy? I’m so worried about everybody and everything that might occur!
It’s super intriguing that after all these weeks of people being mad at Ro Ra, now people are feeling what Ro Ra felt—that the human Shin is more important. Not that anyone would pull the kill switch, but as it turns out Ro Ra wouldn’t either! The kill switch was much safer with her than where it is now—with grandpa, who ruined Human Shin and sees NS 3 as an object. David how could you!!! This might backfire explosively!
I want everybody (well not grandpa or YN’s dad) to live, and team up and be happy after a large amount of interesting pain and drama, but now more than ever I am so worried for NS 3’s survival, with either death or being subsumed in NS. (I do think a meld of the two is very likely, but then I’d be so sad for NS 3’s individuality.) *runs around yelling DOOM!*
Yuki
July 20, 2018 at 6:20 AM
Agree with everything @Mary Brennan. I'm also hoping for some action that will bring questions about their love relationship. So far, So Bong has said that she doesn't even need NSIII to reciprocicate feelings, her happiness is to have him by her side. But, what happens with the physical aspect of their relationship? Will NSIII seek physical affection with her? It's clear that he wouldn't do it because of hormones, but can he experience some kind of satisfaction by strengthening his bond with So Bong in a physical way? He clearly enjoys being with her and is aware of what physical contact does to her. I'm curious to see how their relationship evolves, it's all unchartered territory. Awww, I'll be ok with anything as long as these two end the series alive and happy.
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stpauligurl
July 20, 2018 at 5:12 AM
Keep ranting @christina41218 - I agree with you. NS is deeply hurting as you described and his first response (as is most everyone) is in anger to lash out.
His transformation will be good - at least I hope so.
However I'm with the rest of you and wondering at all the possibilities and scenarios they can use to pull this story together.
What really intrigues me is how this amazing actor is playing both characters so differently with the same face. Is it his eyes, how he holds his mouth? Is it his hair?
But somehow we can see the clear difference between RoboShin and DogShin.
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July 20, 2018 at 7:17 AM
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 7:58 AM
They really do!
I have seen a lot of hate and a lot of love for Human Shin, which is a good thing for drama though ruinous to viewers’ hearts!
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 6:13 PM
that reminds me...someone mentioned this already on youtube and it's a comment I really like so I thought I'd shared. ;D
They argue that atleast the second lead here is played by the same actor of the lead and not a different person so no one can argue which lead is the better actor! hahaha
2 Nix
July 19, 2018 at 8:23 PM
I would have been first but I had to read the whole things first XD
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3 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM
I'm liking the direction the show is going on now that OriShinal woke up. He definitely stirred up some things this episode:
1. Ye-na being a probable love interest to human Shin
2. So-bong being the over-protective leader of the "Protect Shinnamon Roll Squad"
3. So-bong's confession to RoboShin without expecting anything from him. A REAL MVP.
4. Ro-ra finally being a mom to RoboShin and showing us that she still cares for him by giving So-bong the kill switch
5. Gramps' greed will probably save RoboShin
6. REPORTER JO BEING ALL OF US HAHAHA
7. JEALOUS SHINNAMON!
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JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 9:45 PM
"6. REPORTER JO BEING ALL OF US HAHAHA"
True that!!! Omg, her scenes with him were hilarious!!! I lol-ed during all my rewatching during their interactions. When I watched it without the subtitles (and I don't know Korean but definitely learned a lot while waiting impatiently watching the RAWs), girl, I thought she had asked him about the question we're all wanting answer concerning you know what but that wasn't the case!!! I need to get my head out of the mud hahaha
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July 19, 2018 at 10:14 PM
Was kind of disappointed she didn't ask him about you-know-what. I was kind of looking forward for that! Kidding aside, I am liking her character more and more now! She is indeed a good friend to So-bong.
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July 19, 2018 at 10:27 PM
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JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 11:09 PM
hahaha you're one step ahead of me!
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Mani-chan
July 20, 2018 at 1:06 AM
8. David being all of us and calling out Ro-ra
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July 20, 2018 at 1:29 AM
EXACTLY! 👏
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4 ravennightstar
July 19, 2018 at 8:40 PM
That forehead kiss though. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'm pretty sure I was squeeing, giggling and jumping up and down on my bed all in one. 💕💕💕💕
I'm sure I'm not the only one who watched all their sweet moments over and over again. I can't get enough of these two!!!
I love LOVE how So bong is with him now. She's kind, patient, loving and even jealous! There rapport is wonderful to watch. I LOVE MY SHINNABOT. 😍😍😍😍
I cried when he told her "I'm not a human man. I can't feel it. I'm sorry." 😭😭😭😭😭 And I love how So bong loves him knowing she won't be loved back in that way. BUT I KNOW SHINNAMON LOVES HER. YOU CAN'T SAY OTHERWISE. 😭😭❤❤❤
Now, Nam Shin. Wow👏👏👏 He is one scary, angry boy! I love how Kang Seo Jin is portraying him!! To the tiny expressions- his sneer, his eyes... he's good. Dayyum! I can't believe it's one actor playing them both. I loved the beginning scene when he smashed the glass. SO HOT. I knew it was human Nam shin!
Now...what do we need to give for a happy ending? 😭😭😭
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5 RoboShinLover
July 19, 2018 at 9:19 PM
Seo Kang Joon really did well. I always felt he's a pretty good actor. He just needs a character that makes him act all out. I am looking forward to every project he will starred from now on.
As for Gong Seung Yeon, this girl is really fine. I love how she can balanced and not trying to outshined her co-star. Now that's a quality !
It seems like she is easy going and let Kang Joon lead the scene. I love them both ! Best drama this year !
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GSY_SKJ
July 19, 2018 at 9:50 PM
I agree! I remember people saying that kang joon will be outshined by Seung Yeon. But look at him now :) our shinnamon is shining brightly!
I also agree with what you said about seung yeon (yes i really love that girl) and she is also humble in everything. Ah best pairing
I am addicted to the both of them xD i ship them in real life lol
Yes yes best drama of 2018 (their ratings are 2 digit worthy)
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Karolina 🤖😼
July 20, 2018 at 4:54 AM
Ratings should be better for this drama than it actually is :((
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 6:53 AM
I want to go to korea and watch there even without subtitles lol just to increase their ratings XD
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6 missjb
July 19, 2018 at 9:35 PM
With the addition of human Nam Shin, thing will get interesting from on, right writers?
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7 dany
July 19, 2018 at 9:35 PM
I don't even remember when was the last time I was so addicted to a show, maybe...." healer period", because I am watching every episode raw and then again with subtitles and then again and ....
Anyway, I am off to read your recap and comments.
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JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 9:55 PM
Me too! I think I've learned so much Korean this year just from watching the raws alone and I've been watching Korean dramas and variety shows for years now (probably 15+ years) but never was motivated to learn because the subs always came out promptly. I'm actually amazed by how much I knew! I guess my subconscious probably picked it up without me realizing.
But yeah...so addicted. lol
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8 anonymous
July 19, 2018 at 9:35 PM
I didn't realize how much I missed the human Shin until this episode. I love that he's so volatile and unpredictable. He's clearly operating out of spite and his insecurities now. I admit I found him so attractive when he smashed his glass. What a way to come back lol. And I loved that he planned it and manipulated Yena's father. He's a smart, observant, and manipulative character. I can't wait to see what he'll do next, whether he'll be the villain or find redemption. I love love Roboshin, but I like that human Shin is angry with Roboshin's existence. It must be scary to be replaced by a robot and to have other people like that robot more. Except in children's movies, I find most robot characters, especially the highly advanced and realistic ones, in fiction to be scary. I would have probably reacted like human Shin in this drama lol. I wonder how he's gonna react when he learns that Grandpa planned everything and wanted Roboshin to succeed him. Anyway, I'm really happy that I genuinely don't know what's going to happen in this show and that the conflict is compelling.
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missjb
July 19, 2018 at 9:44 PM
I love the fact Nam Shin is an attention seeker... Lol. Make a Grand exit to visit his mom and make a grand entrace when he is wake up from a coma lmaooo.. At times I find him hillarious.
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JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 10:21 PM
"At times I find him hillarious."
Agree! Was it wrong of me to laugh when he passed out after strutting off like a model? hahaha
Ahem, well if I look at it seriously, that could indicate his impulsiveness, which contrasts starkly with Robot Shin's better sense self of control...
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missjb
July 19, 2018 at 10:52 PM
Human shin is really the total opposite of our Roboshin. Roboshin can make a good calculate plan, but at times he is just abit naive and trust everyone who close to him as his side. Human Shin has trust issue. I bet they will work together somehow, and Human Shin will go attached to him. But who knows right? This drama is at times unpredictable to the point I'm afraid to make prediction lmaooo
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 6:49 AM
I would love them to work together. Come on, Original Sin, we know you like robots.
I actually think both the Shins are kind of drama queens, it’s just Original Sin leans into it! I love the drama queening from both, and definitely Human Shin’s wild card ways. (But don’t hurt Shinnamon!)
JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 10:16 PM
"He's a smart, observant, and manipulative character. "
Yes! In retrospect, I think human Shin is actually better at manipulating people than Chairman Nam and could actually be CEO if he wanted. I mean Chairman Nam even said two can play the game of deception and did that whole dementia charade. But why doesn't human Shin want to be CEO? I hope I see answers!
I find human Shin to be quite fascinating... He's like a ball of oxymoron and paradoxes. I don't love him nor do I dislike him at this point. I'm quite intrigued like a scientist... That's the irony actually. I mean, I should be fascinated by Robot Shin because he's a robot but I'm not. Human Shin is definitely an attention seeker and is even stealing my attention way from Robot Shin and So Bong! lol
And I know others speculated this and I brushed it aside thinking it wasn't possible but now, I do believe a love triangle is quite possible! I mean given all the surprises and twists these last couple of weeks, I'm ready to embrace all possibilities...I think. hahaha well whatever it maybe, I welcome the roller coaster ride!
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ravennightstar
July 19, 2018 at 11:02 PM
"I mean given all the surprises and twists these last couple of weeks, I'm ready to embrace all possibilities"
I WISH I was too!! 😫But..but I'm so scared!! I spend every minute thinking of how they are going to end this! Is So Bong going to love Shinnamon roll unconditionally, for the rest of her life? He will remain a robot, she will soon age and die. This is so unfair!!
Or is Nam Shin going to fall for her? (I don't know if I want this to happen)
Or are they going to insert Shinnabot's memories into human Nam Shin somehow? That is so twisted and... I don't know... what to think anymore. 😭😭
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JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 11:14 PM
I have tissues waiting here for you if you need them!!!! I have loads of them, so lets just cry together! T_T
Girl, there is nothing we can do at this point but watch the story unfold... D:
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July 19, 2018 at 11:22 PM
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 12:24 AM
"Have I started sympathizing too much with him? XD" Girl, I am on the same page! lol
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9 kenshinX
July 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM
i am getting more and more anxious about the end game for our leads.. I really hope the show won't dissappoint ..fingers crossed
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10 Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
July 19, 2018 at 9:46 PM
This episode was a roller coaster of emotions for me.
I was shocked, then alternatively cried & smiled & sometimes laughed too.
What have you done to me show..
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Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
July 19, 2018 at 9:53 PM
Also, for some reason I teared up during mom & So bong's chat, the fact that SB loves him so unconditionally, & how desperately she asked mom to not be so cruel... Before I knew it I was wiping my eyes T.T
Also, thank you for the recap lollypip.
I'll keep on adding more thoughts later on.
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11 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
July 19, 2018 at 9:54 PM
*wipes egg off face*
I used to have this feeling while watching Radio Romance: like a writer had a good, innovative idea for a script and then some network person sprinkled kdrama over it. Whenever this show peeks out from behind its tropes it surprises me.
You'd have to do a lot of work to convince me he has emotions though. But I won't come to any definitive conclusions about it, especially after a kdrama just acknowledged the physicality of emotions and blew my mind.
One thing I didn't like - I find it hard to believe that So-bong would work so hard to get the kill switch and then hand it to David, no matter how much she's decided to trust him. She's in such an over-protective mother-lion mode at the moment, she wouldn't trust anybody else with that thing.
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Jules
July 19, 2018 at 10:02 PM
I'm still not sure if I would rather the show keep him from having emotions and go deep on the challenge of loving something that doesn't have emotions or to give him emotions and then deal with the complete insanity that is the morality of how to handle a robot with emotions.
I fear, however they will do something in the middle and muck both up. But then, as you mentioned, they have surprised me a few times already... So hope :)
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anonymous
July 19, 2018 at 10:14 PM
I would definitely prefer it if Roboshin doesn't develop emotions. As you said, there's a physicality to emotions and Roboshin doesn't have the biology and the chemicals needed to actually feel emotions. I feel that going that way would be too fantastical for me.
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Andrea
July 20, 2018 at 12:45 AM
But on the other hand, there is also absolutely no way that a person who's been in a coma for months could walk around like that, even if he's been awake for a while. So it isn't like this drama is going for realism. I don't think it's more fantastical to play with the concept of an AI robot slowly developing and gaining his own form of emotions (no, he doesn't have the biology to feel emotions in the same way as humans, but he's had 20 years to interact with and learn from the world, adapt, write new algorithms, build relationships and develop), than it is that a dude who's been literally wasting away in a coma can be bouncing around like that with no rehabilitation at all. Your muscles deteriorate when you're in a coma, and even the process of becoming fully conscious takes a long time, it's not like waking up from sleep.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not really bothered by wether or not it's realistic that a robot could feel emotions, because this is a kdrama and realism isn't what I'm here for, hahaha. :)
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July 20, 2018 at 12:06 PM
Still, if they were going to convince me he has some sort of robot simulacrum of emotions - a programming version that functions like emotions even if it is different from human emotions - then acknowledging what human emotions are is a big first step.
While it isn't possible for him to have emotions as we understand them, he could have a new robotic version of them.
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12 Jules
July 19, 2018 at 9:58 PM
I'm amused that David and Ro-ra can build a robot that is completely human-like in every aspect, but can't get the skin quite right.
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CHARLIE
July 20, 2018 at 3:34 AM
Well Shinnabon may be able to fix it himself - he is after all smarter than them both. But why does this remind me of Flowers for Algernon all of the sudden?
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13 wingedswan
July 19, 2018 at 10:26 PM
Every episode I feel this pain in the pit of my stomach every time someone treats NS3 like they would a piece of trash. Sometimes it can get hard to see everyone treat someone (or even something) with so much disgust and disdain, it very literally hurts me. I can help but to think the ending to this drama is going to be bittersweet and I doubt our shinammon roll will make it to the end of the drama. I very much hope he does but, at this point, the writer has all the power to rip our hearts to shreds, and what a power that is.
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14 Mimu
July 19, 2018 at 10:57 PM
Seo Kang Joon's acting has really improved a lot as I'm loving (Nam Sin 3) and hating (Non-human Nam Sin) him simultaneously.
Non-Human Nam Shin is the real antagonist of this series as of now. :D
"I can't be mom to both." She can't do what many mothers all around the world have already done - being a mother to all their children!!
Thank god my mom didn't dump me or my brother cause she can't be a "mom" to 2 people.
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July 20, 2018 at 1:33 AM
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missjb
July 20, 2018 at 7:51 AM
They look like lovers than actual mom and son. LMAO... Seriously, I've never seen a son-mother relationship to be this intimated. Human NS and RoRa when they are reunite from the first time after 20 years, look like a lover who is jealous his woman has another man LMAO...
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Mimu
July 20, 2018 at 10:57 AM
@missjb I find it funny now. 😂😂
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 7:00 PM
I agree! It was so eerily creepy in some ways. I really didn't know how to feel at that scene where NS turns his head away from Ro Ra's hand...
Now my question is, why did human NS seek Ro Ra in episode 1? I want to know why he slapped So Bong, made a deal with Reporter Jo, ran from Young Hoon and ended up looking for Mom but got hit by a car. What were his reasons?
I'm going to go on a whim and say that maybe human Shin had an idea of what Chairman Nam was plotting...which was to get rid of him...? Anything goes now in terms of ideas. haha
But I hope that the show answer these questions...
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Mimu
July 20, 2018 at 9:09 PM
@janjan18 I want to know the answers too but i feel he searched for mom just to see how she's doing without him but he had said he won't be coming back from wherever he's going so he must would have planned to stay together with mom.
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 9:18 PM
@Mimu
That's what I thought so too. It would also explain why he's so angry at her for making a "double".
But then his line when he told Ro Ra he was uncomfortable because he never sought her out all these years made me do a double think..actually several things about him made me do several thinking haha I mean he left right in the middle of the M car project and I can't help but almost think that he may have sought out Mom because of that project... And then we learn he's quite a complicated character so was his reason really all that simple, to be with Mom?
Maybe I'm just overthinking again. >_>
Jamie Opso
August 5, 2018 at 1:12 PM
The real lesson here is:
Never get involved with a man with Mommy issues.
Mimu
July 20, 2018 at 10:56 AM
Exactly. 😂😂😂😂
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15 JanJan
July 19, 2018 at 11:04 PM
Now the real villain shows up... What a total surprise!
I love how Seo Kang Joon can make me love and hate his characters all at once. His acting is just...words cannot describe the feelings his characters have put me through this week. lol
Now we have a new conflict and I'm scared for Robot Shin. For some unknown reason, I keep expecting human Shin to try and pretend he's Robot Shin again or something and mess everything up. I can't help but think human Shin is going to pull another one of that stunt. Clearly human Shin's known for destroying thing. I won't be surprised if he does that figuratively. I mean that scheming look of human Shin at their first encounter.... And then I think there is a reason for his grand reappearance. I was clearly confused like all the characters. Initially I thought it was Robot Shin too! I'm traumatized by that and when I see Robot Shin after meeting with human Shin, like So Bong, I do a quick mental check too! I search for his watch...lol Maybe...maybe Robot Shin will act more like human Shin, confusing us instead?
Oh and speaking of villains, I'm actually starting to feel bad for Jong-il. I feel like we learned a lot more about his character this past week and I can't help but feel that he was played by the Chairman. I hope to see more depth to him but we'll see.
Oh Monday, are you here yet? haha
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July 19, 2018 at 11:26 PM
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 4:29 AM
See, I totally read that as NS 3 being kind to Ro-Ra... not not feeling, but doing the (mature and generous) thing of hiding those feelings for someone else’s sake. Instead of lashing out because she means something to him, he spares her feelings, expresses gratitude and implicitly promises future help if she needs it by saying he won’t forget her creation and care. It was indeed 20 years, and they did matter to both of them. And I think Ro Ra understands it, and that’s why she thanked him and said he was wiser and greater than she was. He processed (ha) his feelings into something positive.
Of course it is probably easier for someone to do this if they have a defense mechanism whereby they believe they have no feelings, and their feelings are certainly different from human feelings, so that’s satisfyingly complicated.
We’ve seen NS 3 having feelings—staring at his mom’s picture all alone all night, saying ‘I’m Shin too’ and ‘I’m the hero.’ NS is feeling very justifiable resentment, but NS 3 also felt the pain of being seen as a poor replica. And NS 3 is the one who actually is the replica, and loved less.
But he dealt with those feelings—hilariously with more feelings (such an emosh robot). Him saying ‘Human Shin has a right to be with Mom too... he’s been all alone’ was him feeling empathy. He now knows what it’s like to be all alone, after all. Him arguing with Ro Ra when she’s clearly made her choice won’t do any good—he’s received regular feedback from everyone except very recently SB that he is less deserving of care. So he chooses to be kind to his mother, and incredibly gracious. I could wish he leaned in more to his negative feelings and not his positive ones, because this makes me so worried for him—that being kind and generous is going to lead him to sacrifice himself for humans, because he thinks that’s right, and they’re worth more than he is.
Karolina 🤖😼
July 20, 2018 at 5:06 AM
Well said Mary Brennan. I also think NS 3 said goodbye to Ro-Ra in order to help her to deal with a guilt she felt towards him and NS. At the end of the day he was created in order to help Ro-Ra to deal with emotional pain. and we tend to protect our loved ones from pain and this was NS 3 way to express it.
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 7:29 PM
@Kaleidoscopic
hahaha thanks! I love reading long posts!!! Here's one back at ya...^_~
I think you bring forth some very good points. I agree that if you compare NS and NSIII in terms of their expressiveness, NSIII is quite dull and NS is very colorful...almost like how a moth is attracted to a flame...yes, I'm preparing myself to get burn by NS later! haha
I don't know why but for some odd reason I had this impression Robot Shin actually kept his distance around Ro Ra which explains why to me, how he was able to walk away from her that easily. Like I think with her, he knew his place - he was a Robot and nothing more. However with So Bong, she actually showed interest once she realized he was a robot and then even apologized for Yena's rude behavior because she felt he deserved respect. She truly saw him for who he is, not just a robot but like an actual living thing...equivalent to a dog maybe? Or a tree...
Whereas Ro Ra saw what appears to be an after image of her long lost son, so she really couldn't see him for who he was and I think Robot Shin knew that which is why he kept his distance. It appeared like he loved her from a distance too because even tho he called her, Mom, she never called him son (if my memory serves me right..) but he doesn't complain. In Korean, she had always refer to him as that "child" or called him "Shin". Therefore, when the opportunity came for him to leave...well, it was easy because he didn't hurt as much and he knew someone who truly loved him for who he is was waiting instead.
Yeah, yeah I know he's a robot, but I'm speculating on the premise that he has feelings, so from that viewpoint, it made perfect sense to me. XD
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 7:34 PM
@mary
"I could wish he leaned in more to his negative feelings and not his positive ones"
Human Shin is like this dark pool of energy which I think will eventually rub off of NS III...and I'm not sure how I feel at this moment about that kind of effect but I am excited to see more variety in NS III's ability to feel. I'm like David in which I get so stoked to see him developing too! lol
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 12:45 AM
@Kaleidoscopic
"I think that completely open look NS gave SB...could be a hint by the show that NS is just like NSIII....just buried under layers of trauma"
Yes!!! If I look at it positively, I agree with that speculation as well...it is what I wish for - human Shin's transformation...but after seeing him awake and all that, I'm reserving such thoughts. We shall see what Monday episode brings...
@sweetsour
I write lengthy post as is hahaha so I always welcome long posts and I gladly read them, slurping them up like noodles (okay I must be hungry to make that analogy lol)...but anyways, yes sociopath is correct. That's actually how I read him too. I mean, I thought it was understandable he said to Robot Shin, "Sit because I don't like looking up to you" but when he also said that to So Bong...um...ok, clearly someone has power issues. But you bring up a very good point about him being able to subtly change. Now that brings forth the question of deception again... how much of an act is human Shin really showing us or to others? I see him actually being tender to Yena (which proves another point that I made before that Robot Shin's portrayal of Shin to Yena was actually too harsh). Or is human Shin's gentle act with Yena also fake and part of his ability to manipulate? Oh... my brains!
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 1:24 AM
Me too! Lets be chingu! lol :D
(on a side note: I actually have a project due to tomorrow but I am here because I'm so distracted. I hope my project partner doesn't hate me for slacking... hahaha)
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 1:20 AM
I think he is trying to control yena that's why he is quite gentle with her. And young hoon taught nam shin 3 how to act around yena as far as I can remember.
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July 20, 2018 at 1:46 AM
@christina41218 i would be surprised if he would be all lovey lovey towards yena in the following episode. Nam shin is quite like his grandfather. They are both manipulative. Poor yena XD no one except her father likes her.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 7:47 AM
It’s super interesting to think of Human Shin and Ye Na both as rich kids who think of those from a lower class as less human than they are. Especially in a show where there’s a literally inhuman character. They’re definitely playing around with power issues.
YN and Original treated SB as lesser, to be carelessly hurt. They both hit her. Human Shin didn’t want either NS 3 or SB to stand above him, because he thinks they should be below him.
Ye Na’s dad was clearly twisted by the perception of himself as socially inferior. And we have Young Hoon, also affected by his status, able to empathize with the robot and be respectful to So Bong—but using them too. I don’t think we know yet how resentful YH may be. But I note that YN hasn’t been awful to YH, and Original might care for him: didn’t object to YH standing above him, but called him ‘hyung.’ Which I think is an odd thing for a boss to call his employee, even if the employee is older? I’m confused as to what YH’s social status actually is—in flux maybe! But I did think the first time we saw Original call him hyung, in the flashback, that it might be a rare moment of vulnerability. Except apparently it isn’t, it’s a regular thing. Maybe promising—or maybe Original faking with an orphan, the way his grandpa did.
SB piqued NS 3’s interest in episode 2, I think, by saying that he saw her as a toy to be used and thrown away. Which of course is how NS 3 is perceived, and it made him connect to her. It may well be how Original actually saw her.
Will YN or Original learn the error of their viewpoint? Well, who knows, but it’s a really cool detail. The show has a lot of them!
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 6:39 PM
Oh, very interesting points here Mary! I loved how you called human Shin Original, haha!
Anyways...This concept of being a toy is quite prevalent yet somehow it remains invisible.. You bring a great point that Original probably thought of So Bong as a toy too!
This seem to imply that the aspect of being a toy - the entertaining yet useful purpose of it - is pretty much how humans of "higher class" aka Yena, Chairman Nam, Jong-il, human Shin and all those sitting so high and mighty sadly relate to one another. No one is seen as human at all.
I think it's one of the reason why Robot Shin exists in the first place too. He was Ro Ra's (and David's) toy for a long while and is going to be Chairman's... However, the idea associated with being a toy is more negative and oppressive as if the owner of the toy has more power...yet when we think of toys, don't you think of children? If I follow that line of thought, clearly all those in power in this drama have been childish - immature, impulsive, and unreasonable so far. When will they learn how to share?
Surprisingly enough, you're right in that Robot Shin connected with So Bong using that toy factor to his advantage. However, I think it worked with her because she's not rich and doesn't have that inferiority complex mentality of those that sit up so high do.
It'd be interesting to see if the show will put this toy concept to the forefront...
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16 Khreescekang
July 19, 2018 at 11:50 PM
Thanks xoooo much for the recaps, off to the movies
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17 Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 12:46 AM
I would truly love it to be, my sweet RoboShin, but I'm afraid it's just your Rule #1 an action, to protect So Bong above everything else.
He has of course seen the footage of OriShin hitting So bong at the airport, he realises the threat of violence, and he gets So Bong out of danger. (this is why - from a drama/plottin point of view - that physical hitting of So bong at the airport was necessary)
I thought ep 11 and 12 did a great job of pulling away the mask and showing us what we're really dealing with. After lulling the viewers into a sense of security by showing us cutesy couple moments, the image of the child with the metal face in ep 11 was disturbing and ep 12 added to that by talking about the physicality of emotions and having RoboShin repeat again that he cannot feel anything, even when So bong is hugging him.
I'm so intrigued to see where the show is going next and I'm loving it.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 6:25 AM
They really are putting the machine gun on the mantelpiece in all sorts of ways.
I love that the attraction/pheromones/hormones issue is actually being talked out! I love that NS3 in response to being asked if he felt anything said ‘not yet.’ Yes would be too easy. No would say it was a human’s game to win. But ‘not yet’... he wants to learn. He’s learning so much so fast, like when he waited for her call... like how he picked up not just that SB wanted to be pretty head to toe like the other girls, but that she wanted him to look at those girls (because she wanted him to be able to feel passion and attraction). He quietly processed it and then he did it. He seemed confused but definitely pleased by SB’s love confession (she confessed so much! A confession heroine). He was clearly distressed when he thought she didn’t like him anymore. He’s basically been abandoned, he’s had a friend for a few days—this is all a lot for any 20 year old raised in seclusion, let alone a machine one. Amazing his circuits aren’t frying under the strain! But he seems drawn to human romantic love.
Of course, if he’s simulating it, does that count? I’d say yes: he was built to simulate love for Ro Ra, and now he feels it enough to pine for her when nobody’s looking. The moments when nobody’s looking are the crucial ones, because they make him more than a machine giving responses to humans. We see him looking at SB asleep, and he looked with affectionate wonder at her dad asleep too, but there was something more to how he looked at her—a focus on and interest in her physicality, combined with tenderness.
I LOL’d for days at the scene with NS 3 and Reporter Jo, but I was also thrilled that the show was asking what we’ve been asking re physical attributes and possibilities. And honestly I was pleased for NS 3 that Reporter Jo went ‘lol you’re hot’ because literally everyone else has told him he’s gross and he has clearly internalized it, and I felt it might be holding him back on the skinship front. He might believe SB is heroically overcoming her physical disgust because of her pure love! There are plenty of obstacles already, thank the lord someone told the robot he’s handsome.
Of course those obstacles are not easily removed. He isn’t human, and so has to learn stuff without the influence of hormones. Biology is clearly not on their side. In a way they’re both going against their programming—she’s not going to respond to pheromones he can’t put out, as mentioned above. But hey, to quote Veronica Mars, they don’t write songs about the ones that come easy.
The robot child’s face getting taken off was so creepy and a great callback to the start before the audience got robot attached. But I love that it didn’t faze SB, any more than Original Sin sneering and bleeding all over the shop. She was just like ‘oh my god... nothing here is important at all! Where is my robot honey lamb?’ Her disdain for Original Sin is magnificent, long may she reign. She was a...
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 6:26 AM
(Ahem) She was a lioness this episode. I too am loving it, and loving that they have me so torn up!
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 8:17 PM
Woman!!! I can read a whole book on NS III if you wrote it! hahaha
But yes, excellent observations and I do agree with you on so many of the things you've said and have pointed out...I think you're probably sick of hearing me agree already. lol
Anyways, as for that question of physical attraction...
To me, I think the act of touching alone shows intimacy in this show. NS III remembers So Bong's "skinships" - her literal skin to skin contact with him when she hits, slaps, kicks, holds, and tugs him as her way of connecting for in those moments, it's usually due to an emotional trigger that lead to such actions. I think NS III welcomes the touch because he believes she trusts him enough to touch nonchalantly. That constant skinship implies she isn't repelled by what he is and in some ways the act brings them closer.
I guess the best comparison would be petting a dog. At first, the dog may seem scary but if you pet it just a little and it doesn't bite, you feel more confident petting it the second, third and fourth time. The dog obviously likes the petting, so it responds happily each time you pet it..and so you end up just bonding with it.
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 8:20 PM
I believe this is what happens with So Bong and Robot Shin through those casual contacts. Will we see more than just that? I'm not sure...but who knows at this rate, right? lol
Interestingly, NS makes these same kind of "skinship" with So Bong too...he literally slaps her, yanks and pulls on her arm. In some ways, I can't help but wonder if he's wanting to be close to her too?
JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 8:26 PM
oh!!! also interestingly due to NS III's constant "skinship" with So Bong, he happily lets other touch him too...like a dog asking to be pet lol It's like he wants to eagerly bond with them too. We saw this wanting to be touched when he sees NS and Reporter Jo for the first time. Thankfully Reporter Jo enthusiastically consented and you could see how happy NS III was! His eyes lit up almost like he earned a friend. hahahaha
GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 8:52 PM
I am replaying the wrist grabbing scene over and over again.
Namshin told sobong "you liked him while protecting him. You should've protected me too "
Was that suppose to be an indirect means of needing to be liked? Or did he wanted to be close to sobong just lke what you said? Besides he chose sobong to be slapped in the first place XD
JanJan
July 21, 2018 at 10:58 AM
@12345abc
I read that line as NS indirectly liking So Bong.
If you think about it, that scene where she approaches "Shin" and pleads that they leave because she likes him, So Bong grabbed his hand first. You can tell NS is slightly surprised at this contact/skinship and looks at their intertwined hands BUT he doesn't pull away. In fact, he continues to hold onto it while Jong-Gil enters and makes his discovery. You can see that they continue to hold hands up until Jong-gil accuses him of being a robot. Then, I think it's upon this realization that So Bong had mistaken him for NS III that NS snaps and throws her hand away angrily. He continues in fury, "You love me?" And I think that disdain was intentional because now he finally remembers who she was....the bodyguard that sold him away for money instead of protecting him and is now protecting NS III and liking NS III instead. To NS, that's an insult to an injury.
Add to the fact that he refers to her confession at the end of this episode too, shows that what she said had made some kind of an impact. I think he even replays that scene in his head again, but I'm not sure. I'll have to rewatch this episode again.
So Bong clearly draws a line. She says that the confession wasn't aimed at him, but I think since NS saw NS III as a part of who he is, since he is the "Original", he asks jokingly, "Why because I'm human?" as if to imply that seeing the real thing is more disappointing or something. Of course So Bong doesn't respond favorably and her answer has him so upset (yes more insult to his injury) that the dude gets up wobbly (sorry I had to lol here) and harshly grabs her because obviously that was not the respond he had wanted to hear. Now what would have happened if NS III didn't enter to save her?
I wonder why he chose So Bong to be slapped...Reporter Jo said that Shin was suppose to hire her back. What did all that mean?
Oh Monday is soo close..I can't wait hahaha
WishfulToki
July 21, 2018 at 11:04 AM
@janjan18 you just reminded me that Reporter Jo may have some purpose in the story after all. I wonder what went on before the airport slap too.
mysterious
July 20, 2018 at 10:17 AM
I don't think it's just his rule because he has other rules but he seems to be deciding when to follow them and when not to. After all he didn't hug Ro-ra when she was crying in the cafe and that was a concrete rule for him for years.
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18 Mani-chan
July 20, 2018 at 12:46 AM
I can't really form a concrete impression of Shin, but damn he looked scary in this episode. I also loved how Young Hoon felt conflicted Showing Roboshin to Shin. Ro-ra finally managed to redeem herself (although not completely) at the end of the episode. So Bong telling Shin that she hates him because he is not human was pretty intense. I cannot put into words how good a job Seo Kang Joon is doing portraying two very different characters so well
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19 empressblue
July 20, 2018 at 1:10 AM
I love how So Bong reacted to Shin's sneering to her confession... she actually ignored it, thought of Nam Shin III and his safety instead, and ran out haha.
Usually, a person would have been so flustered with the all drama and the bleeding. By the way, wouldn't the bystanders (M-Car staff) find it weird that she ran out after seeing her boss bleed? Haha. I love that situation despite the drama.
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20 GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 1:39 AM
I am so addicted that I live streamed this show. 0.0 am i the only one?
Okay another long post
First. THIS DRAMA MAKES MY HEART BEAT 300× FASTER.
We don't need steamy hot scenes, we don't need overly seen kissing scenes.
With just a simple hug and forehead kiss makes my heart go na na.
We finally got our true hugs.
1( from the previous episode where sobong cried)
2 at the bicycle area
3 at the hospital
4 when sobong was jealous
This drama is really good at making hearts flutter ♡♡♡♡
Second i love how sobong was expressing her feelings. Like she would flip the world for namshin and nam shin would defy all laws and the world just for sobong. What a unique couple. They don't need I love yous. Just being there together, expressing their emotions and all are all what they need.
Third i don't hate laura at all. In this lastest episode she let namshin 3 go. It is hard for her, but that doesn't count that her desperation in using the kill switch is forgivable. But David is right, she would think of namshin3 whenever she sees her real son and vice versa.
I love how this show goes. How they play with our mind
And lasty.
Am i the only one who thinks that there would be a love triangle?
Human shin said to sobong "you started to like him while protecting him. You should've protected me too."
Was that an indirect need of being liked? Or being loved?
I can remember that he recalled the scene where sobong confessed to him thinking that he was namshin 3. Why do I think he found sobong interesting.
I want to applaud all casts. Seo kangjoon nailed this role! We can tell the difference between nam shin and nam shin 3. The way he smiles made my heart go na na. Lol
As for seung yeon , whil watching her i thought in real life she is quite boyish but she is not. She truly embraced her character up to the point she learned boxing. (Am i the only one waiting for her action scene where she would fight ? She did prepared for this role)
Laura and Mr seo and Mr Nam are all convincing that even without words you would be able to feel their emotions.
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 1:41 AM
Lastly SOBONG IS SAVAGE!
I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT HUMAN
that's my girl!
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 5:32 AM
I genuinely do feel bad for Human Shin but I also very genuinely want So Bong to roast him for days. Read him for filth, girl.
SKJ is not just killing but vaporizing it, and I definitely think Human Shin might be drawn to her, but at the same time fully agree that NS 3 and SB’s mutual defiance of the world and their own programming is powerfully moving.
I think there might be a love triangle but when it comes to the romance, I so want Human Shin only to be a catalyst for NS 3’s progress: I want NS 3 to be end game. (Whether I’ll get what I want, who can say.)
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Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 5:37 AM
I want what you want.
So Bong loves NS3 for how he acts (even though, I'm sure, the looks don't hurt - who are we kidding) and so just swapping him out for NS0.0 isn't going to do the trick.
I want her to say: I love him because he hugged me, I hate you because you hit me.
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 7:05 AM
No matter what they are different.. Namshin 3 is waaayyy much better than nam shin.
I like what you said! I hope she would say it in the next episodes.
I want more screen time for nam shin though even if he is that bad
GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 7:01 AM
I feel bad for him too. But sobong should reallt get back to him. Her words are much better than that slap XD i love her even more
Me too i want Nam shin 3 to be the end game. Even if he is a robot and she is a human XD
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Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 8:36 AM
That scene between Shin0.0 and SB escalated so quickly, it made me feel giddy with glee, with both of them upping the mutual-unpleasantness ante.
He did start it by saying that he didn't like looking up to her, so could she sit down, or - he had to say it didn't he? - kneel.
And she was all: fo dude, I'm going to keep standing and talk down at you,
so he had to up that with: if you're like that, maybe I should have hit you harder,
so she called him not human at all. (maybe implying my beloved RoboBoy is way more human than you are?)
Then of course he had to go for physical grab.
Not sure where she would have gone if RoboShin hadn't turned up right at that point but I wouldn't have put it past her to kick a recovering invalid where it hurts...
It was a great scene.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 10:13 AM
Truly great! I love how her priorities are rocking his world. He’s so worried everyone is lying to him and secretly preferring the robot while SB is like, ‘Secretly, my dude? I’m driving Shinnamon stick for life.’
And then a robot knight rocketed in. The scene made me want a wild SB/NS 3 makeout with an infuriated NS looking on. (And then bisexual NS is shocked to realize YH was the steadfast love he wanted all along? I know I won’t get that, but I so wish everyone could be happy and OK. After much fraught longing, because I’m a monster.)
The way they escalated made them actually seem like fairly similar prickly pears, though SB doesn’t have the class arrogance and isn’t quite as messed up. And our shinnamon stripper is actually pretty good at reading both of them.
Like you I was somewhat concerned SB was going to hit him. I totally want to see her badass away, but girl, he’s delicate...
Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 10:17 AM
That made me laugh so hard. Sorry my mind is completely in the gutter.
GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 8:37 PM
Hi was thinking about that too, where would she have gone if nam shin 3 did not intervene. Sobong is not bad enough to give him a kick lol
Ah i love the tension rising between the two. I like what you said mutual unpleasantess ante 😂😂
I monday would come sooner xD
GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 8:42 PM
Lol he said the same thing to roboshin XD maybe human shin has inferiority complex
empressblue
July 20, 2018 at 8:02 AM
You're not the only one. I'm with you on the live streaming.
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 8:36 PM
Girl, we're all addicted at this rate. Just tell me the secret...how do you live stream it? Cuz I want to go on board as well! hahaha
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 8:38 PM
Watch on nooblelive and chose kbs2. ^-^
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 9:10 PM
I don't have that D:
I guess I'll just wait impatiently...*le sigh*
Thanks anyways!
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 9:25 PM
You can search it in the web ^-^ nooblive.com and it will appear
JanJan
July 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM
@GSY_SKJ
omg, thank you so much!!!! *sends you lots of hugs and kisses!*
I'll be streaming it live with you on Monday night, hahaha
empressblue
July 21, 2018 at 4:44 AM
Mine's not exactly live streaming. I am subscribed to KBS Drama. They upload a few minutes after it airs on TV.
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21 Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 1:43 AM
Was I the only one who, when So bong said: “To gain a life, I have to risk a life” thought she had something compleeeeetely different in mind?
Like putting OriginalShin into a more permanent closed-eye state...
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🍭 lazysoap | Fellowship of the Robot
July 20, 2018 at 4:54 AM
yes that was crazy ominous and I was all for it just for the potential kickassery
Sobong needs to punch some faces soon = . =
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 7:02 AM
I was afraid for that! Her face says it all!!
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awsomesauce23
July 20, 2018 at 5:55 PM
Right ? especially when the scene switched to shins hospital room and you are looking at things from his waking pov. for a moment I was worried she was going to be the last face he saw lol .
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22 Yuki
July 20, 2018 at 2:42 AM
I'm hating NS now but so happy he's awake and back in the game. He's a very complex and tormented individual, and of course I understand where all his jealousy and dark feelings are coming from. I'm sure he will try to get rid of NSIII and that's where I cannot forgive him, 😠 since NSIII is innocent of all the wrongdoings he has suffered in his life. I wonder what will take for him to find peace and leave our Shinammon roll alone. I think he should reconcile with Mom first. Mom has a lot of work to do. And I'm so happy that she and NSIII had that honest conversation; and so glad NSIII has So Bong now, so for him it is easier to let go of Mom, so she can focus in her human son. I never thought Mom would be able to use the kill-switch (ok, it was obvious since she threatened with it at the beginning of the series, haha!), always had the impression that she did love NSIII but loved more NS and knew NS would see the robot as a betrayal. I think David's words were important for her to come back to her senses: killing NSIII wouldn't undo anything, neither her guilt, and she would be always reminded of him.
But yeah, as long as the life of our precious NSIII is not in danger, I want to see NS in action too, I'd really love that he has a positive character arc too, and he learns to be "human" again and finds love.
But this episode was also great with the romance. So Bong, as the brave girl she is, confessed her feelings and made clear it's ok for NSIII not to return them. And she protected him like a lion, she went there to tell Mom that she would die for him! This girl is committed for sure! and of course she gave NSIII her heart. 💖 How cute is that after receiving a person's heart this robot is finally able to start identifying emotions behind his behaviour?
Anyway, it's so heartwarming to see these two being so faithful and trusting each other so much. Like human NS I'm jealous of what they have, haha!! And I agree with other beanies in that their relationship is super-cute and swoonworthy. My heart flutters every time they hold hands or look into each other's eyes....but yeah, I hope we get another robo-kiss soon 😊
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GSY_SKJ
July 20, 2018 at 2:54 AM
Lol i am waiting for the real robo kiss XD not just some stolen or something. I saw somethin in instagram, some shots from fans and I am confused if it is nam shin or nam shin 3 she is spending her time with. It is good that nam shin and laura had a good closure. No hard feeling but i think she still cares for him.
I am not threatened by laura anymore but more of nam shin. He is is grandfather's grandson after all. He can do stuffs that we can't imagine. I love this show it is so unpredictable
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 7:10 AM
*chants for a robot kiss*
Since the issue of passion was so highlighted in this episode, perhaps in the future Original Sin could offer her passion she can’t have with a robot, which is a cue for Shinnamon Roll to sweep in and lay one on her with intensity? (Am I arguing for them both to kiss her? Maybe. Another chance for SKJ to show off these mad acting skills, via different kissing styles!) I know you can do it, Shinnamon... you did well with the first kiss, and that was acting for a crowd!
I agree So Bong went so hard this episode! No wonder Ro Ra is like ‘I guess you can marry my robot son.’ (What with agreeing to take responsibility and giving him the heart, it does feel like she one-sidedly married him, y’all.) I loved that she was so sorry turning him off, and he collapsed into her tenderly waiting arms. It’s so weird that she can literally turn him off, but the weirdness and the weight of feeling behind it is why I’m in.
(Also thank you so much for the recap, LollyPip!)
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JanJan
July 20, 2018 at 8:51 PM
LOL!!! You're making me laugh just as hard as the time Reporter Jo felt NS III up!!! hahaha
I just can't..hahaha
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23 dany
July 20, 2018 at 3:10 AM
I just thought that maybe they shouldn't have written a love story between nam shin III and sobong, just a strong frindship. It would have been easier to digest/ to accept. And the lve story should have been between so bong and nam shin.
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24 panyingg
July 20, 2018 at 3:25 AM
Can't wrap my head around the idea of a human and a robot being together though😕 Yes, it was brave of Kang So Bong to confess and take initiative of her feelings but at the end of the day, the guy is a robot.. no matter how advanced or evolving NSIII can get.
I thought at the scene when NS asked NSIII for help meant that they would swap places with each other😅 And then the love triangle would happen because NS would fall in love with So Bong when they spend time together, hee. BUT that's a long shot and unfair to NSIII because it's him and So Bong who developed a relationship💕 So confused but addicted!! 😁
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25 missjb
July 20, 2018 at 4:35 AM
I might be the only one who ship NS with Ye na. Yena, despite being a self centered person, and I disagree with her decision take a patient who is just awake from a coma to office, I really appreciate her love for Real NS. Her love her is never waver, and I thought that's what NS need. And I really though he loves NS beyond his status. And moreover, she is really has chemistry with Seo Kang Joon, and a better acctress in my eyes haha.. I actually wanting more of her story because she is so underutilized so far.
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Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 4:59 AM
I would personally approach someone who was trying to get married to me while I was in a coma, with an extreme amount of caution.
Maybe that's just me.
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missjb
July 20, 2018 at 5:19 AM
I know.... She is possesive. But she okay with it when their marriage got cancelled. And any girl who stay to his love one despite he is in a coma for a long time should be consider a big point to me. I would be feel sorry for her if real NS only using her without any feeling.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 5:23 AM
I keep wondering if Human Shin knows about that! I think he’s fond of Ye Na, and obviously wants people on his side, but seems hard not to go ‘You did WHAT?’ It definitely was not a loving thing to do to Human Shin. (But then, Human Shin and YN are both very messed up in how they indicate love.)
But of course, tragic irony if in his quest for love he can count on, Human Shin mistakes Ye Na’s blind love as ‘more real’ than Ro Ra’s or Young Hoon’s.
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Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 5:31 AM
I wondered about that too... Did they discuss the wedding anywhere near OriShin's bedside?
I wouldn't put it past OriShin to know about it, and keep YeNa close just to hit her in the face with that fact at the worst possible moment.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 5:37 AM
I definitely think it’s a bad sign for YN’s hopes that Original Sin (pun intended) said to YH that YH knows him best.
Cloggie
July 20, 2018 at 5:41 AM
I was calling him that at one point but it got too long to type. He's just got the best punnable (is that a word?) name ever.
I'm still sticking to my favourite ending where OriShin and YH go travel the world together and RoboShin and So bong run the company.
nerdy
July 20, 2018 at 6:34 AM
I think, I also ship them?
Ye Na's love is too blind and a bit obsessive, but honestly speaking, I have no idea how someone would be able to stay with Nam Shin without it. Guy has traumas, a lot of them, he also builds high walls or goes in "villain" mode when he feels like he is threatened+trust issues and huge need of love. Ye Na with her unconditional love is perfect for him.
Also, she is the only one who didn't prefer upgraded version of him, that's why she is the only person he-in his best capabilities- trusts
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missjb
July 20, 2018 at 6:46 AM
IKR? She is not waver of NSIII kindness.. SHe is ready of getting reject multiple times, and come back again to real NS. She is stay with him in his arms on his bed all night long. I admit I got teary watching her dedication when watching her stay in his weakest condition. You can't buy that kind of dedication. ..
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 6:55 AM
I don’t ship it currently but I did like the detail that she dresses down with him—jeans and not the heels that looked like she was going to snap an ankle in! I do want to know more about how she came to be so dedicated to him. And of course she’s never been exposed to the full Shinnamon blast of love and understanding, so that’d be interesting to see too!
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missjb
July 20, 2018 at 6:59 AM
I want to know their story too... Perhaps, they are a childhood friend, and she is already got used of his presence, So she can't be with anyone else but him.
26 Anonymous
July 20, 2018 at 5:00 AM
Ok...i need to say this because i'm not buying it ( the romance between robot and sobong). EVERYBODY but nam shin II is being human. Being human is about every range of emotion, people think being all good is the only definition of humanity but the robot is a perfect example of inhumanity. He is not good, he logically acts good. And the proof is that he only responds too the purpose he was made to follow. You can bet with me he would kill somebody without a pinch of emotion to save sobong ( even the real shin, if he went to far). He doesn't feel rage, he acts rage because it's a means to protect. Everytime i look at him i see fakeness, something just there being what he was made to be. Only his focus changed.
Now that shin is awake we can see that nobody but yeena shows a care for Shin. Sobong loves the idea nam shin II portraits which is the perfect person. But she forgets she is not perfect, she was worse than shin in some moments. Still inderstandable because of her past, but worse.
Roora made herself comfortable all this years while shin was raised with a maniac but it's understandable because of her past.
Everybody in this game had a chance shin didn't have, and now he wakes up and sees a double. And has to be compreehensive to something made up perfect.
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Chogyu
July 20, 2018 at 6:05 AM
Thank you for saying this out loud. I'm sick of people hating on human shin. So bong changed because she had someone who changed her as for NS he had a lunatic grandpa and a director after his life. He sacrificed himself to save ro ra and she replaced him with a robot who won't go insane? It's like all his efforts went down the drain
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Anonymous
July 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM
Thank you!! I was starting to think i was the only one thinking right.
You nailed it. It seems like nobody remembers his years of pain...
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GSY_SKJ
July 21, 2018 at 2:08 AM
Hi agree,remember when he chased that snake? He was programmed to save lives but... how should i say this.. he left him on the streets...
Sobong asked him about snake but he did not reply at all. I am quite afraid that shinnamon would go berserk should anything happen to sobong..
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27 NougaBot
July 20, 2018 at 5:02 AM
I'm really impressed with Seo Kang Joon's acting. Seeing Shin these episodes gave me really bad vibes, and I know that it's also partially lighting and angles that do all of that, but he's intensely creepy. It's really impressive that Kang Joon can pull off two polar opposite characters at the same time.
I hope that they won't go for a love triangle, which it kind of looks like in the preview, but given this show's deflection of tropes so far I doubt that they'd do that. While I'm really concerned for So-Bong and Nam Shin III, I'm also looking forward to the next episode.
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28 PakalanaPikake
July 20, 2018 at 5:53 AM
Thanks for your recap and comments, LollyPip!
ARE YOU HUMAN TOO just keeps getting better and better.
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29 Chogyu
July 20, 2018 at 6:02 AM
I don't understand why are people cheering on so bong for saying 'you are not like human' to NS when at one point she was way worse than NS? I mean she took money and spied on him and then again took money to destroy his life and she has the guts of telling him that he is not like human? NS has not done anything 'Evil' (till now) so I don't get the hate for his character? If anything he just need a good therapy
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 6:42 AM
He had just told her he should’ve hit her harder. I like them both and feel sorry for them both, but he didn’t feel any pity for her and her clapping back at him was satisfying to me.
It’s the Shinnamon Donut who feels sorry for Human Shin, saying that he’s unhappy, but it makes sense that of the three of them, Shinnamon is the kind one. SB has learned to be kind back, but that’s different to offering kindness to someone unkind to you.
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Anonymous
July 20, 2018 at 9:50 AM
Still, she judged herself when she said that
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30 Robotss
July 20, 2018 at 7:25 AM
Can't tell what Gramps is thinking or what he's up to but I can totally see the appeal of having a Robot-CEO in his situation, especially when real Shin isn't just unappealing personality wise, he'd probably make a terrible CEO too. Yena is a smart girl, but she is also so so stupid...that's all I can say about her.
So many lovely OTP moments this episode though! *__*
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31 Lixie
July 20, 2018 at 8:24 AM
Loved this episode. Why does this have only 18 eps, it's starting to feel like it should have 20 at least. Well, if they were planning to make Shin a better person at least. So curious about how to deal with Shinabong, being honest I'll confess it's probably better if she gives him up. For her own sake, she can't be with him for the rest of her life. It would be just too crazy and while she IS crazy in love now, when she comes back to reality, the fact he can't become physical or feel real emotions or have kids, they would change how she feels about him.
I'm also curious about people here sometimes calling Shin3 innocent and kind. How can he be any different? He was programmed to be caring toward people, that means he doesn't have a choice, it doesn't say anything about what would be his personality. Also he doesn't have feelings like insecurity, fears, nothing to make him behave in a petty or unkind manner, so what is the real meaning of these very human traits to him?
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 8:37 AM
I don’t know... we have seen him display what certainly seemed to be misery and loneliness, and those are two feelings which seem to have devastated Human Shin. He just dealt with the misery and loneliness—mind you, he was raised with care, giving him the tools to do that (as well as robot detachment). He wasn’t programmed to have SB as his first priority, yet here we are. He keeps reaching out and then saying it was a joke, which indicates insecurity. There is meaning there to me, though I may be projecting—as the characters who love Shinnabon worry they are!
In a way, the two Shins are a Nature vs Nurture argument—can you nurture a machine into humanity or corrupt a human out of it? Maybe both can be overcome.
Maybe I’m wrong about both Shins and Human Shin is an irredeemable sociopath and NS 3 an ultimately too limited robot. But I try to have faith in the hints both of them are more. ;) I may disagree with you about the romance (I’m all in for it—maybe SB doesn’t want kids or they can adopt), but I love that the drama is asking these questions and that we’re all on the hook this late in the game!
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Lixie
July 20, 2018 at 8:55 AM
I really wouldn't use the word lonely yet for him. Just because he "missed" SB? That could be just his program adjusting to her as his new "priority".
"He wasn’t programmed to have SB as his first priority, yet here we are."
Yes, where is the explanation for that? I was thinking he could have evolved some sort of program dealing with his self preservation capacity. I mean he must have some form of it so, this, would have recognized that his creator wasn't the human who really could protect him better anymore and changed his priority to SB.
Honestly I took his jokes as either just jokes or a way for him to make the human feel better when he says something that really didn't achieve the result he expected, I didn't understand that as any insecurity, it's done to comfort the humans.
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MaryBee
July 20, 2018 at 9:05 AM
He definitely seemed lonely looking at pictures of his mom all night and then hurling himself into a pool like the one he played in with her to me—actions he did for nobody but himself—but YMMV.
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Lixie
July 20, 2018 at 9:23 AM
That would be interesting, if the very first true emotion he ever got to experience was loneliness. Sort of poetic too. :)
I guess I thought he was programmed to be around his mom for a longer time and was trying to compensate for that.
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July 20, 2018 at 9:58 AM
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GSY_SKJ
July 21, 2018 at 2:04 AM
me too but if she will not end up with nam shin 3 then they will lose the essence of the love story between a robot and a human..
*sigh* i just want a happy ending. Hwayugi made me think that kdramas do have sad endings.
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32 mysterious
July 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM
-Nam Shin-3 is definitely feeling jealousy. I think he's been experiencing emotions in his own way, he just didn't realize it. When he created a new rule to protect So-bong, that was out of concern and concern is an emotion. He felt angry when she was kidnapped. I think he feels joy too, like when he was examining her features, SO CUTE!
-I think the biggest testament to Nam-Shin-3 growing and changing is the fact that when he saw Ro-ra crying, he DIDN'T go hug her. Wow! He broke a rule that was built-in. He is truly becoming his own person.
-There is no redeeming Ro-ra for me. I simply don't like her. Period. Just because one is your biological son doesn't mean you can sacrifice the other. Bad mom? Yes you are.
-And the big revelation for me was who the real threat is. It's not gramps or Jong-gil, it's Shin. He seems to be even more ruthless than anyone else. Gramps and Jong-gil would just use Nam Shin-3, but Shin wouldn't hesitate to destroy him. I hope after this bout of jealousy, Nam Shin-3 will be less likely to be so accommodating to Shin. Having his guard up around Shin could very well save Nam Shin-3's life.
-And how cute are our new couple. When So-bong was jealous, Shin's smile was so cute. He's evolving to the point where he is even playful.
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33 Pearl2303
July 20, 2018 at 1:23 PM
I don't know if I am right.. but why do I feel human Nam shin got up way before its shown in the drama and he has acted like Robo Nam shin in front of So Bong in a few scenes. I can be wrong as well, considering the way scenes are shown in the drama. But, I have a feeling he is acting being rude. Because considering the grandpa acting as if he is sick but he is not plus he knows about both the human and Robo Nam Shin....this drama gives us twists. Am I overthinking? :) haha.
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larelle79
July 20, 2018 at 5:39 PM
Yes. He passed out. No way he did that more than once.
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therevels
July 21, 2018 at 4:49 AM
This could be possible too, since I saw in prev eps that Human Shin's vital sign often shows that he's fine, but I overlooking it as if it just the production didn't look the details.
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34 larelle79
July 20, 2018 at 4:50 PM
I am noticing that no one is talking about how SB's Dad stole SNIII watch. His daughter is the chip off the old block.
He has already completely overstepped at SB place of business. You really think he ain't gonna raise hell about know the truth.
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35 dany
July 21, 2018 at 2:19 AM
Just 6 episodes left, I doubt they have time to develop a love triangle, or do they?
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JanJan
July 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM
I was surprised to see RoRa transformed in just one episode, so I figured if her character can do that, anything goes right now. haha
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36 NiZ312
July 21, 2018 at 3:15 AM
i don't really like the loveline between robot and human Su Bong.. I really hope for a twist of Nam Shin waking up earlier and pretending to be robot every once in awhile to steal Su Bong's heart.. a little bit like I'm Not A Robot.. but that's not going to happen it seems.. I mean.. how do you even make babies with robot -_- .. even Secretary Kim don't seperate love from sex..
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renalena
July 22, 2018 at 3:54 PM
I mean, if he was doing that, why would he have publically turned her down at the meeting? Seems counter-productive to me...
Also, having babies is not the end-all-be-all of romantic relationships. Not all people want babies, not all people can have babies (you could equate NSIII to an infertile man and get the same result), and if they were to get together and later decide they wanted babies, there are millions of parentless children from whom they could choose one to adopt. Or Sobong could use a sperm donor.
I’d personally be more concerned about NSIII’s lack of aging... especially if he parts ways with Ro-ra, he’d have to build himself aging bodies or get someone to do it for him. But that also doesn’t seem like an insurmountable obstacle.
I find human Shin to be an interesting character and I hope he finds happiness, but even if he likes Sobong I really don’t want the show to give her feelings for him because he HIT HER. And implied he should hit her again because she disrespected him. Doesn’t care about her well-being, doesn’t respect her thoughts or opinions or values, basically considers her lesser than him in every way... she owes him nothing.
In my opinion, NSIII and Sobong have a really healthy and admirable relationship, and as she teaches him how to act (really, become) more human, he’s teaching her how to be a kinder, more open, trusting, and loving version of herself. So I personally really hope they get their happy ending! And if they do, I hope you can find your way out of the Uncanny Valley :)
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37 empressblue
July 21, 2018 at 4:55 AM
I am happy that lurkers/ audience increase more as the episode progresses.
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38 Lu
July 22, 2018 at 2:33 AM
I love it ! I started watching this recently (out of pure boredom, waiting for the next eps of Secretary Kim), and I think I might like this even more ! The thing is, I reeeeaally don't know what's going to happen next (is someone going to die ? What will happen to either Shin ? To So Bong ? To everyone ?), and I like it, because so many stories are usually quite predictable.
I don't even know what I WANT to happen: do I want So Bong to live her entire life with Nam Shin III, and then grow old and die leaving him alone (so sad for both, but it is the realistic way !) ? Do I want a magical wand to appear and transform Nam Shin III into a human so that they can live and age together (that would be so cool, but so not real) ? Do I want Human Nam Shin to get all of Nam Shin III memories implanted in his brain and to become a human version of NSIII, but with less naivety ? Do I want both NS to survive, even though it can only lead to conflict both physically and emotionally for everyone involved ? But then how could I handle one of them dying ?
Too much possibility, and I don't even know what I want !!! I feel for both NS and for So Bong, but I don't know what's best for all of them (in the short term, NSIII is CLEARLY better for her, but with time, she may feel lonely even with him there, so a human being would be best, though the current Human Nam Shin was horrible to her and doesn't deserve her forgiving him right now).
AAAaaaah I need more !!!
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39 Sam
July 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM
I love NS3 but at the same time, I might not exactly hate NS. Sometimes, it seems like both NS and NS3 are similar in more ways than one and yet so so different. If NS is the actual villain who hurts his Mom or So Bong down the road (still thinking it over), NS3 might not mind breaking a few rules and actually harm him. I think, for now, the kill switch issue has been put on the back burner- won't come up until Evil Grandpa wants to play another game. But the way it was resolved was pretty much satisfactory to me- So Bong was awesome in confronting Ro Ra outright, Ro Ra was just nice in admitting that NS3 is wiser and greater than her (he'll prove it again soon, I bet), and I can't honestly get whether David was just stupid or smart in handing over the kill switch to the Evil Grandpa.
We didn't get a glimpse of Hee Dong or Vacuum Robo Chingu this week- obvio with all the developments going on. But I want something light next week. Maybe NS might get to see what a different life NS3 led in the same house and understand that it wasn't all about the harsh circumstances that made him like this; and if he won't flip out like a crazy guy, NS3 can point out that he is only human after all. Then NS could apologize to SB for hitting her and we'll have a happy ending! Ok, now I should go to sleep :|
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40 llamapoet
July 24, 2018 at 2:25 PM
Is anybody else confused by the whole faking a coma thing? Is it even possible to fool other people into believing you're in a coma when you aren't anymore? Or at least everyone else bought it, but the doctor? Is it possible to fool a doctor into thinking you're still in a coma? Was the doctor in on it too? Or maybe he was just a crappy doctor? Or maybe this is just an inconsistency in the story? Maybe it's just an unbelievable thing that is completely possible in this dramatic story... it is a sci-fi story after all, it doesn't need to be completely logical nor do I expect it to or am upset when it isn't. Or maybe it is possible to fool a doctor into thinking you're still in a coma.... thoughts?
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41 Rahima Mangatong
July 10, 2020 at 10:09 PM
I love this korean drama
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