Chicago Typewriter: Episode 10
by gummimochi
What we’ve learned casts a new light on the events of the past, and it’s finally time for people to start facing their demons. It’s good to know that Seol isn’t alone when the newest chapters of the story contain both blissfully happy and painfully terrifying memories, and that the writer penning the tale is prepared to take each step with her to the very last page.
EPISODE 10 RECAP
Hwi-young deepens his kiss with Soo-hyun, and when they’re in the clear, he pulls away. Soo-hyun is still fixated on the idea that he was her masked rescuer, and Hwi-young takes a few beats before replying that he’s sorry to disappoint.
Tucking her hair back in her hat, Soo-hyun returns his pocket watch. He pulls her back to examine her bleeding arm, but she matter-of-factly tells him to ignore it, adding that their kiss wasn’t personal.
Hwi-young returns to Carpe Diem, where Yul reports that “Sapsaree” is fine but suffered an injury. As Soo-hyun sings onstage, Yul says that he plans on settling down with her, and Hwi-young’s face falls. Soo-hyun changes into her disguise following the performance, and she thinks back to her kiss with Hwi-young as she removes her lipstick.
She recalls the club madam warning her that love is not an option for them as freedom fighters because it puts their lives at risk. Hwi-young also recalls the kiss while sucking on a cinnamon stick, explaining to Yul that lighting a cigarette can easily make one into a target.
He then instructs Yul to pretend to be the masked man who saved Soo-hyun’s life all those years ago. While it’s true that Hwi-young was the one behind the mask, he won’t run the risk of Soo-hyun ever finding out that he’s the ringleader of their youth activist group.
Yul argues that Soo-hyun can keep a secret, but Hwi-young believes there’s a difference between withstanding torture when you know the truth, and not being able to talk because you don’t know the answer, and he doesn’t want her to carry that burden. When Soo-hyun joins them, he opts to stick to his playboy act rather than hang out with them.
Soo-hyun chases after him, yelling at him for his love of booze and women, and Hwi-young levels with her: “What are you? What are you to tell someone to give up their hobbies? Are you my wife?”
She gulps and backs away as Hwi-young draws closer to ask if she’s jealous or if she’s taking this personally. He asks if today’s “lesson” stirred any feelings for her, then detects that she’s wearing perfume. He scolds her for trying to act feminine, and she storms out to cry on the stoop.
She’s spooked when Yul speaks to her with his face half-covered. He places a Carpe Diem matchbox in her hand and repeats the same instructions Hwi-young gave her as a young girl.
She brightens and asks if he was her masked rescuer, and Yul confirms it, saying that she’s pretty when she smiles. He takes her on a ride around town on his bicycle and they pass by Hwi-young, who looks on forlornly.
In the present, Se-joo stays up all night to write this installment, and when Jin-oh looks over it in the morning, he asks if this is creative writing or Se-joo’s memories.
Se-joo isn’t entirely sure—he wrote anything that came to his head. Jin-oh remarks that Se-joo’s writing will soon surpass his own memories, which prompts Se-joo to ask who Soo-hyun loved: Hwi-young or Yul?
Yul replies that only Soo-hyun would be able to answer that because they lived in a dangerous time where it was of utmost importance to mask one’s feelings. It seems to him that pursuing love is hard in any generation, noting that people now wish to protect their pride and mask their feelings using the “push-pull” approach.
Se-joo feels like he’s learned an important lesson from Hwi-young’s approach toward love. Reminded that the straightforward approach is best, Se-joo calls to wake Seol, asking her out on an early morning date.
She flies out of bed to meet him at the park, where Se-joo is waiting with a pair of bicycles and says that he just really wanted to ride bikes with her today. She’s reluctant, but when he says they’ll make it a race for original manuscripts of his previous novels, and she grabs a bike and rides off. They’re breathless after a happy and competitive ride, and when she complains that he had the advantage, Se-joo offers to give her the advantage in the next round.
Cut to: an indoor shooting range, where Se-joo declares that the best out of four shots will be the winner. She’s impressed when his first bullet hits the bullseye, calling him a natural: “You’re a total sniper.” And this time it’s Se-joo who asks, “Do you… remember me? We met a very long time ago.”
He fires two more shots and lines up for his final shot, saying they met about eighty years ago. After the last bullet hits outside the bullseye, he turns to her and tells her everything: They were both independence fighters in Gyeongseong (now modern-day Seoul) and she was a sharpshooter.
He admits that he previously didn’t want her to recall her past life, but now he stands firm that whomever it was she shot down as Soo-hyun, it was for the sake of their homeland. That’s a fact she should be proud of, not fear.
He calls her by her codename “Sapsaree” (which also happens to be the breed of dog that Gyeon-woo is) and orders her to take her turn. He looks on with pride as Seol takes four clean shots in the bullseye. He ruffles her hair, and she jokes that it feels like she’s become Gyeon-woo. Afterward, she thanks him for tapping into his own novel as a way to comfort her.
Se-joo says she can think whatever she likes but she mustn’t forget that it’s no coincidence that they met. He instructs her to read the next installment tomorrow because it’s a story that’s about the both of them. He warns that reading the next installment could bring up more memories, but she must tell him everything instead of suffering in silence.
She agrees, then bristles when he tries ruffling her hair again. He promises to give her an original manuscript and first edition of his books for winning their bicycle race, and then gently takes her hand in his. Cute.
Elsewhere, Seol’s mother drops her things when she learns that the novel Chicago Typewriter is extremely popular nowadays, and rushes to read it. Back at the house, Jin-oh marvels at the endless stream of praise from Se-joo’s readers while Se-joo drinks it in, saying that the internet always breaks whenever his writing is published.
He dismisses the readers who are rooting for Yul and Soo-hyun to get together, and Jin-oh says he’ll be in charge of that storyline. At Se-joo’s skepticism that Soo-hyun would fall for him, Jin-oh says they’ll need to ask Soo-hyun/Seol herself, and then it occurs to him that this tale requires all three of their perspectives to be complete.
At the animal hospital, Seol reads the latest installment, realizing that the stories are exactly like her memories. She knows what happened the night of her first mission and how Soo-hyun felt that night. Thinking back to Se-joo’s explanation that they met in their past lives, she realizes that he and Hwi-young share the same face.
She’s spooked when Se-joo shows up just then with his first editions in hand. She nods in confirmation that she’s read the latest installment, and he asks if it brought back any new memories. Noticing her face flush bright pink, he chuckles, knowing exactly which memory sprung to mind.
He follows her out when she tries to get some fresh air, pleased that she didn’t think of anything unpleasant. She can’t bring herself to look at him, to which he threatens to do something “for the sake of their homeland.” Do it, do it!
He swoops in like he might kiss her, and when she gets shy, he smiles to know that his theory has been confirmed. She agrees to have dinner together tonight, unaware that Mom is watching them from across the street, looking terrified at the sight of Seol and Se-joo together.
The publication team celebrates the success of the book at the restaurant where Bang-jin works. Wondering why Tae-min’s mother has it out for Se-joo, they toss around the theory that Se-joo is Writer Baek’s illegitimate child. Ji-seok slams his spoon down to put a stop to their gossip.
Ji-seok is soon called back to his office by Writer Baek, who asks that Fate doesn’t go through its fifth printing because he feels Tae-min is too reliant on the book’s success and that it’s preventing him from writing something new.
Ji-seok promises to follow up with Tae-min, then carefully asks if something happened to Se-joo while he lived under Writer Baek’s roof because it appears his wife is trying to sabotage Se-joo.
Writer Baek immediately confronts his wife about it, but she refuses to stop until Se-joo is ruined and her husband agonizes over his downfall. Writer Baek counters that he and Tae-min are the ones who should be begging for forgiveness for what they did to Se-joo ten years ago. And then it dawns on her that her son stole Se-joo’s work.
A female student hangs back following Tae-min’s lecture to ask him to sign a first-edition of Fate. He freezes when she asks how it feels to sign a book he didn’t write, explaining that her brother — a Se-joo fanboy — told her the truth. Tae-min glowers and demands to know who she is, but she doesn’t answer.
Se-joo finds Jin-oh straining himself to practice bodily possession and wondering why there’s no book on this subject. He tells Jin-oh to write one himself, then heads out for his dinner date with Seol.
Jin-oh shows up in his car, though, and reminds him of the clause in their contract stating that they’ll always stick together. He’s determined to make himself visible to people soon, and sits next to Seol at dinner while she tests Se-joo’s knowledge about their past lives.
Knowing the name of the club isn’t enough, since that appears in the novel, but in unison they name the song she sang on stage, and she finally believes him. He tells her that he began remembering bits of his past life when he saw the antique typewriter in Chicago, which Seol then delivered to his home.
Jin-oh smiles as Se-joo explains that the typewriter and the gold pocket watch belonged to him when he was Hwi-young. Seol marvels at all these connections, then asks about the other man in their group — a tall, handsome man named Shin Yul.
Jin-oh looks to be on the brink of tears watching Seol explain that Yul was the first face from her past life she saw clearly, though she only recently learned his name thanks to the novel. “She remembered me first,” Jin-oh states.
She remembers how kind Yul was when he taught her how to shoot, and wonders if he’s also been reincarnated. The moment is interrupted by a bitter Dae-han, who adds that Bang-jin is on her way.
Jin-oh starts to panic since Bang-jin is the only other person who can see him. He tells Se-joo (who’s on his phone to avoid looking crazy) that he can’t disappear because he’s spent too much time away from the typewriter.
Se-joo orders Jin-oh to leave, though Dae-han mistakenly thinks that those words are directed at him. So Dae-han sends Seol on an errand so he can have a minute alone with Se-joo.
Meanwhile, Jin-oh fails in his attempt to disappear, so he’s forced to engage in conversation with Bang-jin outside the restaurant. He accidentally calls her by name, and when she wonders how he knows that, he awkwardly replies that Seol told him. She prevents him from vanishing like a ghost, asking for any kind of identifiable information on him, like a full name.
He asks her to loosen her death grip on him, and when she does, he gives her his pseudonym, Yoo Jin-oh. As she lingers on the name, Jin-oh makes his escape.
Inside, Dae-han has a stare-down with Se-joo and loses. Ha. He claims to have known Seol, his “signorina,” for much longer than Se-joo has, to which Se-joo counters that he’s known Seol for about eighty years.
So when Seol returns, Se-joo pointedly calls her “Sapsaree” and leads her away. He drops her off at home, and when she pouts from his simple goodbye, he pulls her back to embrace her. He reminds her to tell him if she remembers anything else from their past and leaves.
Bang-jin happens to catch the tail end of that exchange and congratulates her friend on her new relationship. Little do they know that Bang-jin’s mother is hollering at Seol’s mom inside, astounded at her gall to show up after leaving her daughter twenty years ago.
Mom claims to have something urgent to tell her daughter, but Bang-jin’s mother screams at her to leave before Seol arrives. But that’s when the girls enter, and Mom turns to face her daughter.
Seol and her mother sit together in the bedroom, albeit with some physical distance. Seol wonders why Mom has sought her out now after so many years have passed, barely able to keep her bitter resentment from spilling over.
She thought perhaps her mother would show up at her father’s funeral, that Mom would take her in again because they were all each other had. She’d resolved to resist once before following her, but Mom never came for her.
Mom sheds tears of apology, but it’s too little too late and Seol asks her mother to leave. “Do you still see events of your past life?” Mom ventures. She remembers how much it pained Seol to speak about how she took someone’s life.
Seol can’t believe her ears when she’s asked if she remembers anything else, asking if Mom intends to be a part of her life again if she’s free of those memories. “No,” Mom answers, “I’m here to tell you the real reason why I left… I also have memories of my past life.”
She explains that she left because she was afraid that their ill fate they share in their previous lives would spill over to the present, and that Seol would remember more horrific memories she shouldn’t.
Seol demands to know what that was, and when Mom’s eyes fall on a photo of Se-joo, she warns her daughter from getting involved with him. Mom can’t say why and warns her daughter from letting history repeat itself and tells her to forget everything about her past life.
Se-joo and Jin-oh return home, where Jin-oh laments at being unable to become visible to Seol. Evidently, his ghostly powers are tied to the typewriter. But Jin-oh finds hope in Seol remembering his face from her past life. The doorbell rings just then, and Jin-oh comments that the doorbell is always followed by something unpleasant.
It’s Tae-min, who drunkenly stumbles over to Se-joo for a hug. After Se-joo pushes him away, Tae-min falls to his knees asking for the rough draft of Fate. He knows he can’t find success again if he has to start all over and can’t bear to face public scrutiny. Cry me a damn river, you creepy plagiarizing pet abuser.
But Se-joo agrees just as Tae-min passes out. After tucking him in, Se-joo heads back downstairs where Jin-oh sternly warns him against trusting Tae-min. He confirms that he recognizes Tae-min from the ’30s and knew him to be a duplicitous person then, but he waited to say anything because it was possible that Tae-min could’ve been a decent man in this life.
There were two people Jin-oh wanted to meet in order to figure out how he died. Tae-min was one of them… and the other was the club madam at Carpe Diem—Sophia, aka Seol’s mom.
Speaking of whom, Mom wakes later that night and sheds tears watching her daughter sleep. She apologizes to Seol, unaware that her daughter is awake, and slips out. But Seol follows and calls out to her, vowing to herself to never see her mother again if she leaves without a word.
Tears fall from her eyes as Seol asserts that she doesn’t believe anything Mom has told her. Unlike her mother, she won’t leave the people she loves because of something that happened in a past life.
“I’m not at all scared. I’m not at all afraid. Because I’m not alone; we’ll overcome it together. What I really can’t forgive is how you didn’t have the slightest desire to overcome the past with me. Look at you now, you’re trying so hard to run away,” Seol continues.
She believes that destiny can change and vows never to live like her mother did, and heads inside.
Se-joo sits in his bedroom the following morning, thinking back to his conversation with Jin-oh, who didn’t remember much about Tae-min and Madam Sophia apart from their faces and names. He was certain that they were key figures in solving the mystery of his death.
He gets a call from Seol asking him to meet up, and Tae-min wakes in time to overhear Se-joo leaving the house. Sneaking into Se-joo’s office, Tae-min immediately starts searching for the Fate manuscript, to no avail.
He has no idea that Jin-oh is standing in the corner, glaring at him. He finds the pages in a drawer and laughs. Jin-oh remarks, “Still living like a rat, I see, Heo Young-min.”
And then Tae-min turns to him, asking, “Who are you?” Oh shit, he can see him!
Jin-oh is just as surprised, thinking, You can see me?
Seol is at the indoor shooting range, thinking of her mother’s warnings as she fires her gun. She gets glimpses into her past, and one memory sticks in her head: the one where she bursts into the room as Soo-hyun, her gun trained on the back of a man’s head.
And this time, the head turns slowly to reveal… Hwi-young. A shot rings out. Seol lets go of her gun and crumples to the floor, clutching her chest.
This is how Se-joo finds her, and he asks if she’s okay. Her mother’s warning about bad fates still ringing in her ears, Seol begins to cry.
COMMENTS
Arrrrrrgh, Mom! How dare you show up after ghosting on Seol for years and show up just to warn her not to let history repeat itself! We’re not told exactly when Mom started seeing glimpses into her own past life, I can’t believe that it was this fear that led to her decision in putting distance between them. Look Mom, if you really thought it prudent for your daughter to stay away from certain people in her life, then you really could’ve done a better job at well, I don’t know, staying to protect her.
What annoys me more is how her words got into Seol’s head because even if she was a terrible mother, she is still Seol’s mother. Thinking back now, we were clued in pretty soon after Mom’s first appearance as Madam Sophia, when Bang-jin’s mother mentioned that one’s enemies from a past life are born as their children (which then leads to the question: What kind of grave crime did Writer Baek commit that he’d get Tae-min as a son?). Seol was well on her way to overcoming the trauma of her past life—with Se-joo at that—and now everything in her world is spiraling around her because she also saw Hwi-young’s face in that last flashback. But until we see a bullet in a man’s head, I refuse to believe that the fragmented memories are the whole truth.
I thought we’d seen nearly all there was to the past in Episode 9, almost having forgotten that there was still the overarching mystery of Jin-oh’s death and that Soo-hyun had shot someone dead. I’m not surprised Tae-min is another reincarnated soul—one with a villainous past, at that—since he didn’t offer much to the story past his inferiority complex. But what scares me now is that he’s the third person in this dramaverse who can see Jin-oh—is it pure coincidence that this ability came to fruition after he got his hands on Fate? It was fair of Jin-oh to try and give Tae-min’s reincarnated soul the benefit of the doubt, but what will happen if he becomes visible to more people? Tae-min’s crazy mother has nothing on him when it comes to violent tendencies, and I honestly fear that it’s only a matter of time before Tae-min also starts remembering things from his past life and goes after Jin-oh. Stay away from our ghost!
Even in Seol’s darkest moments now, I’m still so proud of her for reaching out to Se-joo and keeping her word to rely on him when things get tough. Ever since Se-joo realized his own feelings for Seol, he has taken it upon himself to take the lead. I loved that he felt it was important to be honest with Seol and encourage her to own her fear. He didn’t push her to remember more than she already did, instead offering to be with her whenever her next memory would come to mind. That kind of support is admirable, and so nice after watching Seol be his constant cheerleader during his writer’s block. It appears that Seol’s fear of shooting a gun is one of the biggest roadblocks in letting history repeat itself, but that doesn’t mean that things won’t come dangerously close as they unlock the past. But you know what? Screw the goddamn consequences, I’m sticking to my guns that Sapsaree can change the future.
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Tags: Chicago Typewriter, Episode 10, Go Kyung-pyo, Im Soo-jung, Yoo Ah-in
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1 etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 8:01 PM
*dies* All the feels inside of me right now I can't deal!
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etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 8:01 PM
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etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 9:22 PM
Okay I finally have a chance t give my thoughts. Okay can I just say... How in the world can he see him!?!? Like even Seol hasn't been able to see our Ghost Writer yet and how did this demon sent animal abuser see him before her!?!?
I kinda wish Seol got to see him before the abuser did but am interested to see how this will all pan out... Especially because this must mean that the abuser (will not say his name.) has seen glimpses of his past or is aware of something? I dunno because I personally didn't see any clues that showed he knew of his past life.... Unless I missed a bit?
But omg the mom. I am totally with gummi with how disappointed I am with the mother. I honestly dont know why she expected Soel to just accept and listen to what she had to say. Especially after she ABANDONED her!! I wanna know more about what the mother knows but I bet it isn't going to explain why she left.
I am interested though to know who Jin Oh will possess (I et I spelt that wrong) when he possesses (Yep I did) someone for the first time. Personally I don't think it is morally right so I have really conflicted feelings of both excitement and dread about what will happen.
I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this but there is this nagging feeling in the back of my head that Jin Oh is not completely what Se Joo and us (the viewers) think he is... There is something dark and mysterious about him, probably because of how "perfect" he is.
But keen for the next episode! I am ready for the show to throw everything at me!
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:32 PM
Part of me is hoping Jin-oh won't actually possess someone just so Seol could see him. Instead, I hope she can see him in his ghost form the way Taemin just did. ?
Agree with you about Seol's mom. I don't think the twisted and dark fate that was their past lives could ever justify her actions in the present life. Ugh. ?
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etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 10:21 PM
Same. I honestly hope the same thing tbh. I am happy with the cute adorable ghosty relationship and it isn't right for him to hang around as a ghost. I can just see the longer he stays on earth the darker and more corrupt he could become
... yep.
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Yanie
May 15, 2017 at 3:08 AM
I have a feeling that Bang-Jin would be a key or at least she could help Jin-Oh.......
(since she can see him and the fact that she's a Shaman's daughter)
Im just not sure how.. ?
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:31 AM
I hope so too that Bang-jin will somehow go badass in the next episodes and be of help to the three comrades. ?
etrenelle
May 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM
I am actually hoping for that as well~ I am sure her role is going to be bigger than just the best friend
etrenelle
May 15, 2017 at 4:27 PM
I am actually hoping for that as well~ I am sure her role is going to be bigger than just the best friend (Well I hope anyway)
osmanthustea
May 14, 2017 at 10:29 PM
nooooo. I don't mind if the past shows that Yul was momentarily misled and did a grave mistake on Hwi-young/Soo-hyun, but I wouldn't want Yul to have turned out shady.
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etrenelle
May 15, 2017 at 4:28 PM
I am not saying I want him to be shady either... But there is just something off about his character I personally feel...
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sungjong
May 15, 2017 at 12:31 AM
For some stupid reason I'd dropped this drama after the fourth episode....and boy, am I not overly joyous that I picked it up again. So many feels after marathoning 6 episodes....I just can't...I feel so so sad for Jin Oh..when will Seol see him?
I had thought of so much more to write but cant we just have all episode NOW!?
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 2:25 AM
It also didn't grip me in the first two episodes but I'm glad I continued to watch it. ?
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:20 AM
I almost drop it at 5. But I'm still here, hook, line and sinker.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 9:38 AM
All right! We're all in this together. ?
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etrenelle
May 15, 2017 at 4:28 PM
*nods head in agreement* dont worry I had the same feeling at around episode 3/4 But it has really picked up since then
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2 dukseonnoona
May 14, 2017 at 8:03 PM
Thank you Seol for giving us all fangirls hope! ? My heart breaks every time for Yoo Jin Oh but I can't help but squee, a lot, for all these Se Ju and Seol developments!!! ???
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nelly
May 14, 2017 at 11:39 PM
The writers kind of threw Yoo a bone, letting Seol remember his face first, but our cute ghost doesn't stand a chance against See-joo, who decided to go all out in pursuing Seol.
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dukseonnoona
May 15, 2017 at 9:15 AM
Such a pleasant surprise that Se Ju went all in with love ? I did not see that coming!
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CoconutDice
May 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM
lol @ "threw Yoo a bone" ?
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etrenelle
May 15, 2017 at 4:29 PM
Kinda cruel in a way I guesss.... But it is better for him to get that much at least.. right...?
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dukseonnoona
May 15, 2017 at 9:18 AM
Me thinks Tae Min was able to see Jin Oh because Jin Oh called him by his name in his past life.
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Miranda
May 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM
Yes - Tea Min clearly didn't see him until then, but Jin Oh saying his name was like ringing a bell. And once he'd heard someone's voice, he actually looked for a person... and there Jin Oh was.
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3 Melona
May 14, 2017 at 8:05 PM
There are so many new revelations in this episode that I’m still reeling from them all. Hwi-young has sacrificed not only his youth for the liberation of his country, but it also extends to his choice to not love. He used his bad boy pretence to actively push Soo-hyun away and even used Yul as his cover. I feel for Soo-hyun after being hurt by Hwi-young’s harsh words, and I’m glad that Yul was there to cheer her up. Nevertheless, I can also empathize with Hwi-young’s motive and my heart breaks on his behalf knowing that Soo-hyun could kill him possibly before knowing that he was her saviour, and that he loved her back.
I also love the trio’s interaction in the restaurant, with Seol revealing that she remembers how kind and considerate Shin Yul was to Soo-hyun. It’s exactly what Jin-oh needs to hear; and the perfect thing to soothe his feathers after Se-ju unilaterally and dramatically reduced his screen (page?) time and down-played his love line in the novel, LOL I love how petty these two are (who’s keeping score?) Plus Jin-oh’s bewildered expression was so cute when Dae-han introduced his dish and interrupted his moment with Seol.
So 2017’s resident rat Baek Tae-min is really 1930’s resident rat Heo Young-min. Good to know, and points for consistency. If he so much as plays a hand in Yul the giant puppy’s death, I’ll report him to the RSPCA for two charges of unforgivable crimes against puppy and kitten, in the past and present respectively. All jokes aside, I’m glad that this episode reveals there were more evil players in the 1930s, and that the tragic outcome couldn’t have been attributed to the fault of one party. That’s my wishful thinking still refusing to believe that the sweet Shin Yul would simply betray his comrades and go as far as causing the death of his best friend. Please let me dream, like Bang-jin’s love for her Mr. Yoo.
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:30 PM
HwiYoung pushing SooHyun away is probably the only time noble idiocy made complete sense. He isn't even doing it for her, because capture means death or imprisonment anyway. He's doing it for the country.
At first I did think that Yul may have been the betrayer and that's why he was stuck in the typewriter. But the more I get to know his character, the less I can believe he'd be a traitor.
If only he wasn't a ghost... if he was like the soul in "Who are you?" and he just finds his comatose body somewhere in Chicago, gets back into it, and then falls in love with the girl who sees ghosts, that would just make my day. The three of them need to be together in this life time - I think they deserve that much, for all they sacrificed for their country.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:35 PM
Yes, this is noble idiocy that sits on patriotic shoulders. That's why I feel extra giddy when Seju decided to love honestly and wholeheartedly in the present. ?
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Ennui Young
May 14, 2017 at 10:13 PM
Carpe Diem! This is the repeated theme of this drama from episode 1. :)
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 10:31 PM
Ahh @ennui-young now you mentioned the theme again, it reminds me of Se Joo & Seol who are going by that mantra in the present, but not the mum (and perhaps, Tae Min). Mom clearly got stuck in the past, and wanted to drag Seol along with her - instead of seize the day and live in the present. Nice catch on that.
I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:24 AM
And I'm glad that Seol doesn't let her mom's words taking her back. I hope she really tries to move forward. Her effort to face the fear by trying to see the whole past picture is truly a breakthrough. It's all thanks to Se Joo.
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 9:41 PM
I don't believe Yul is or can be the betrayer too. So I'm really curious now of why Yul is not being reincarnated like his friends did? Why did he become a ghost? What did he do to deserve being a ghost?
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Yuki
May 19, 2017 at 2:32 PM
Yul being tied to the typewriter as a ghost, I guess it means that either he was killed while writing or that he was responsible for Hwi Young's death, it's difficult to tell,...but I'm dying of curiosity here :)
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Bellaindia1
May 15, 2017 at 1:50 AM
I though the same thing!!! that poor yul is somewere in coma and that he will wake up to fall in love with soohyuon friend!!!
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:25 PM
I wonder if some tragic circumstance led Hwi-Young to order his own death? That's the only reason where I can imagine Soo Hyun shooting him. She must have gotten the order somewhere and I really can't see Yul turning on Hwi-Young.
I also love how Se joo reduced Yul's screentime in the published novel! (point Se Joo) And YET! there are still a bunch of Yul x Soo Hyun shippers (point goes to Jin-Oh).
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:36 PM
I love how the fans are true to nature: they have a bad case of SLS. Lol ?
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osmanthustea
May 14, 2017 at 10:34 PM
After reading your words, I half wonder if maybe Hwi-Young orchestrated it himself? Like maybe the whole organisation is in jeopardy because of a traitor, and he'd rather take that fall because Yul, having been the 'front' of leadership to the rest of the group, is in a better position to keep their mission going?
Or maybe that was the only way for him to mis-lead a mole? Argh.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 12:44 AM
It is possible. Hwi-young has always put patriotism over personal agenda. His a real hero in that aspect, willing to lay his life for the liberation of his country.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 2:26 AM
He's* deym no edit button lol
s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:35 AM
Haha. To be fair, SJ won't be able to know anything that transpired privately between Yoo and Seol unless he witnessed it himself. So he did have a reason for the reduction in Yoo's screen time in the novel. However, the pettiness is cute.
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alasecond
May 15, 2017 at 1:01 PM
Sj is not writing the novel alone. They mentioned it in the episode. Ghost writes all Yul and Sapseri scenes.. SJ incorporates them
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Yanie
May 15, 2017 at 3:15 AM
I'm also wondering Who was the lady who knows the secret about Se-Ju and Tae-Min's secret "FATE"... hhmm..
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dukseonnoona
May 15, 2017 at 9:16 AM
No wonder Se Ju is sucj a successful writer. He saved his country in his past life! ?
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4 blo
May 14, 2017 at 8:13 PM
Love it when Yoo Ah-in does that smile.
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
May 14, 2017 at 8:42 PM
It kind of cracks me up. It's like a hamster's. :3
I do that on purpose from time to time too and my sister smacks me cos she can't... ?
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 9:03 PM
OMG he does kind of look like a hamster. But his smile is too adorable, I don't even care. I long for the day someone will smile at me like that... <3
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mango
May 14, 2017 at 8:55 PM
When he smiles you can see the word LOVE written all over his face ha.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:38 PM
And when he's teasing her about the kiss? omo. His eyes, his smile. I died. ?
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 9:16 AM
His smile is SO contagious! It's from ear to ear smile!
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5 edgepee
May 14, 2017 at 8:17 PM
I wonder if Jin Oh realises that Se Ju is falling for Seol, and if he does, why isn't he stopping Se Ju? Surely keeping her away from Tae Min doesn't involve early morning dates? :p
This is why I am firmly of the belief that Jin Oh is playing cupid. Hwi Young and Soo Hyun couldn't be together in the past, so it's his job now to unite them - before he can finally go to the afterlife.
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allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 9:01 PM
I feel so bad for him. He was in a one sided love in the past, and it definitely is the same in the present. But I love how unselfish his love is... that he would be okay seeing his two friends fall in love again.
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 9:05 PM
He truly loves them both if he's willing to help them be together in this lifetime. That is true love, being selfless and caring for your friends to that extent. I love him to pieces.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:40 PM
This makes me wonder if he betrayed his two comrades in the past that by the time he realized what he did, it was too late. So far, what we know is that past Seol had no idea that past Seju was their leader. Yul could've used that leverage against them somehow. I hope not.
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 10:17 PM
I hope not, either... My poor heart, if that turns out to be true!
alert
May 14, 2017 at 9:49 PM
Agree. But it still saddens me how tragic Jin Oh character is. Everytime he says "I saw her first", "She remembered me first", it feels so heartbreaking, as if he's trying to justify himself that there are things that he 'wins' first place (from Se Joo) with regards to Seol. That he's convincing himself that he deserved her love, and he is someone special (the 'first') in Seol's heart.
Argh! This love that could never be is heartbreakingly sad *hide in the corner and cries*
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osmanthustea
May 14, 2017 at 10:37 PM
He's such a puppy. I was so moved for him at the restaurant when Seol talked about remembering him first.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 12:41 AM
Agree. And what makes it more heartbreaking is that he's not being antagonistic about it. It feels to me more like he has already accepted his fate when it comes to matters of the heart. ?
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aoiaheen
May 15, 2017 at 10:03 AM
Yes, he says it without any bitterness. That's why I love him. I'm glad that it was his face that Seol remembered clearly first. So even if she was in love with HwiYoung, we know that Shin Yul held an equally important place in her heart.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:38 AM
I think Yoo does realize SJ is falling for Seol, and has known it since the last episode. That's why he is trying so hard to find ways for Seol to see him so that he has a chance at her heart as well.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:30 AM
Despite the boys' pettiness over each other, I'm bound to think that they have one mature relationship. I have no doubt that Yoo realised Se Joo likes Seol, and the best part is both of them have mutual respect towards each other. And Se Joo & Seol are also grounded on a very subdued, natural relationship progress. It's very clear they like each other, and they actually act on it! - without the willy nilly denials that we usually have in dramaland. It's kinda refreshing to have this kind of maturity when it comes to romance.
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6 ravennightstar
May 14, 2017 at 8:18 PM
Wow, ok. So he can see Jin Oh now? Is it because he said Tae Min's past name? That was my first thought. Did he say Se joo's past name in front of him, thus enabling Se Ju to see him? Does that mean he could get Seol to see him if he said her past name? In front of her? Lol...it's probably not even close to the truth...but that could explain why Tae Min could suddenly see Jin Oh.
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zette
May 14, 2017 at 9:04 PM
I like this theory. Names are powerful things when it comes to the supernatural.
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ravennightstar
May 14, 2017 at 10:15 PM
@Zette Thanks. Lol. Yea they are, especially when it's a name with a lot of meaning. That's why I thought the past names hold some meaning and that saying it out loud would awaken some sense (maybe the 6th sense...lol) that enables a person to see ghosts.
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etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 9:26 PM
gosh I love this theory! Like @zetteceniza said names are generally something that hold a lot of power when dealing with the supernatural. I kinda hope your theory is right though XD I would love to see this~
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ravennightstar
May 14, 2017 at 10:18 PM
@etrenell Thanks! Yea, I wish it is too. Because if it's as simple as saying one's past name in front of them, then I can't wait for Jin Oh to try it in front of Seol!! I want her to see him already!! To remember the good ol' days when it was just the three of them.
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osmanthustea
May 14, 2017 at 10:50 PM
Wow. That's quite a good theory.
Initially I thought Tae-Min simply didn't notice Yul in the room, but after re-watching it was very clear that Yul couldn't have missed seeing Tae-Min until after Yul spoke up. So the name is probably what changed their "bond".
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ravennightstar
May 14, 2017 at 11:21 PM
Thanks!
Yes, that's what I thought. So now I'm thinking how did Se Ju see Yul? I don't remember Yul calling Se Ju by his past name when Se Ju first saw him...
So I'm kinda thinking there's more to seeing ghosts than just the calling of someone's past name.
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yue
May 15, 2017 at 3:35 AM
I think Se Ju has the ability to see ghosts anyway! Like the scene with the psychiatrist..
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ravennightstar
May 15, 2017 at 4:57 PM
Hmm..so do you think he's a bit like Bang-jin?
s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:30 AM
Yoo didn't mention BJ's past name, but BJ could see him anyway.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:35 AM
I think it's because Bang-jin has always had the ability to see ghosts. In this case, Yoo doesn't have to do anything or call her by name.
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ravennightstar
May 15, 2017 at 4:56 PM
Yea, exactly. Even if she didn't have a past life (and if this is her first life), she can still see ghosts because of her ability
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Mensi
May 15, 2017 at 7:24 AM
Exactly my thoughts! He did realize it too, so now he'll be able to show himself to her.
Well played.
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kuroshiro
May 15, 2017 at 6:36 PM
My friend and I actually have the same theory. Lol.
We were thinking that we should write a blog post about it for Yoo Jin Oh to find in the next episode. Haha
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7 karin
May 14, 2017 at 8:23 PM
I was screaming like crazy at the end of the episode! How does Tae Min able to see Yoo while not Seol? Is it because he somehow accidentally touch the typewriter?? I feel scared for Yoo's source of energy (typewriter) because of Tae Min now. What will he do if he ever remember the past???
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
May 14, 2017 at 8:49 PM
oooo this is a really interesting idea—the power being connected to touching the typewriter.
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karin
May 14, 2017 at 9:12 PM
So, here is a wild imagination : The girl who knows Fate isnt Tae Min is Seju's stalker's brother, to avengeher brother, she and Tae Min will plot to harm Seju. Just like in the past where past Tae Min is using Seol to shoot Seju, and Carpe Diem's madam who encourage it to happen. But the madam would probably redeem herself in the present since Seol is her daughter afterall.
I am just scared that Yoo might be die (I know he is a ghost, but can a ghost be exorcised and be dying twice thus has no chance of reincarnation??). I hope not, I pray to Drama Gods to give Yoo a happy ending -reincarnation thus he can also life in the present just like what he wants, he can be reincarnated and born as a webtoon writer assistant who has Park Shin Ye as his neighbour! Would be awesome if we can have Kim Seul Gi cameo.
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karin
May 14, 2017 at 9:39 PM
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:30 PM
I'm really scared for Jin Oh. I know he's dead, but they've mentioned he is weakened when he is away from the typewriter and it seems like people who can see him can touch him and hurt him (like how Bang Jin was grabbing onto him so hard). Tae Min is a nasty piece of work. I'm also worried about that student who called him out on his plagiarism. I wish we can check in on her to make sure she is still alive. And why haven't we seen Baek Seol lately? :(
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thatdoublenine
May 15, 2017 at 1:42 AM
But Jeon Seol also touched the typewriter before.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:51 AM
Nah, Seol touched the typewriter too, if I remember correctly, but she still couldn't see Yoo. It does feel suspicious that Yoo brings up the fact that his power diminishes when he is far away from the typewriter. I wonder if someone is going to lure him away from the typewriter and vanquish him.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
May 15, 2017 at 6:23 PM
regarding the fact that he loses his power when he's away from the typewriter--i wish they had established that earlier on. it felt a little bit like an "add-on" for the plot...which, as you said, makes me worry he'll be lured away and harmed.
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 8:01 PM
My thought exactly. It was established all of sudden. When they toured around Seoul, he didn't seem to lose his power and didn't complain about it.
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8 lazielizard
May 14, 2017 at 8:23 PM
So glad I caught up with this one. YAI is something alright. Isn't he going to military service soon tho??
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM
It's the kdrama curse. The moment you discover a hero, or find that one drama that makes you love a guy, the next thing you know he's in the army.
But the reward for the two year wait is "Abs" -- a sixpack of them.
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etrenelle
May 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM
*nods head with approval*
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wandergirl
May 14, 2017 at 9:35 PM
Learning about this curse now, what with Yoo Ah In and Ji Chang Wook enlisting this year. Good thing I haven't watched their previous dramas so I can catch up while they're away!
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 3:41 AM
He's been due for army for a while. But he has some health issues- so the army has been delaying his enlistment to reassess him. It's honestly a bit complicated and there is some controversy surrounding this sadly, with some (crazy) netizens accusing him of wanting to get out of enlistment. The knetz are notoriously prejudiced against stars who don't do full service.
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Lattelove
May 15, 2017 at 11:17 AM
Forgive me for having lesser knowledge about a country, but I have been curious and confused about the army enlistment regulation of S. Korea, being someone from another country. Does every man have to enlist to the army once or it is specified to particular people like celebrities? It is very difficult to know cultures from the dramas and movies.
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 6:47 PM
I'm not an expert but this is what I know-
In South Korea it is compulsory for all males to do mandatory military or national service, whether it be in the army, navy or air force. Unless they have medical reasons for being unfit physically (or mentally), then they can do non active duty (public service officer)
The timing at which they they enter isn't compulsory, as long as they enter before the age of 30 I think. Which is why some stars are "due" for enlistment- they've hit the age when they can't delay it much longer.
So anyway all of them need to go through a medical assessment to ensure they are fit to do active duty. Nowadays there is a lot of negative public sentiment against actors who don't do active duty, regardless of whether their conditions are valid or not, because some previously have been caught trying to fake illness to dodge service. South Koreans take their national service very very seriously. YAI has some medical conditions but I think he is trying for full active duty so maybe that's why the army is delaying his enlistment to reassess him.
Hope this clarifies things a bit! ?
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Lattelove
May 16, 2017 at 1:28 AM
Wow! that is a very interesting law! Well its good to be fit I guess and we get to the 'abs'. Hehehe.......
Wait! does that mean all the men in S.Korea have 'abs' like the celebrities? OMG! The girls very lucky. :) :)
9 alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:24 PM
If only 3 people know that Fate was originally written by Se Joo (Se Joo, Tae Min and Writer Baek), how on earth would a girl and her brother would know about it too? If there's one person who would have the hunch about the plagiarism, it would be Seol, being Se Joo's hardcore fan and read Fate too.
Could it be that the girl approaching Tae Min is a ghost too? Or perhaps his subconscious guilt that comes to surface?
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allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM
I actually thought that Yoo was possessing the girl at that time. But I'm glad to know that someone else knows that he really did not write it. I'm a bit annoyed and surprised that SJ would just give the first draft to him willingly, after all the attitude he gave him
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:39 PM
I was a bit peeved by that too... like, "come on! His mother is trying to ruin you, don't you need some leverage?"
But I think it speaks to HSJ's character. He's just not the kind of person to take back what was given.
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:46 PM
I'm kinda fine with it LOL. I feel like Se Joo is finally coming to terms to why he writes in the first place. He's no longer the revengeful Se Joo who needs constant reminders of the backstabbing done by the Baeks. He's now Se Joo, who writes because he wants to write, and he's established himself enough that he no longer cares about the Fate issue. I'm just annoyed at the ungrateful rat Tae-Min, who didn't really learn his lesson. Se Joo was clearly willing to let go, but he had to sneak into the writing room and steal the manuscript.
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:33 AM
This. If this was still the old Se Joo- the prickly annoying arrogant SJ that we knew in earlier episode, he wouldn't have let the case slip. But he's not that SJ anymore after he met Seol and Yoo. Tae Min stealing his manuscript doesn't matter anymore to him. Now he's just focusing on writing and why he writes in the first place. And carpe diem!
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vannerie
May 15, 2017 at 3:53 AM
I also thought it was Yoo possessing the girl.
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM
I'm thinking that maybe its someone from the past. Someone who remembers maybe? Because she asks, "who could I be...?" or at least, that's what I think she asked, without subs to make it clear.
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:41 PM
Yes, I'm still reluctant to jump into the idea that she's a ghost without knowing more plots about her.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
May 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM
totally agree with that. her "who could i be" means to me that TM is connected to her somehow.
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karin
May 14, 2017 at 8:48 PM
Could she be Seju's stalker's sister? It hit me right away when she said "she knows everything about Seju". I am very scared that these two would plot to harm Seju together since the girl most likely thinks Seju as the reason her brother died.
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:55 PM
Ooohhh, I completely forgot about the stalker! Yes, she could be the stalker's sister too!
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 9:01 PM
oh, yes, because she specifically mentions her brother... that would be out of place in that scene unless we know the brother from somewhere before!
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:54 PM
Omo. Wasn't she the one who revealed to the media some info that only Seju and the stalker knew? Omo. ?
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:35 AM
Noooo, enough with psycho mom and son. Now we have a psycho girl too?
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:35 PM
I just thought maybe the brother was a superfan and/or academic who knows Se Joo's work so well that he can see specific markers of Se Joo's style in Tae Min's work. He can probably tell that Fate is closer to Se Joo's style than to Tae Min's post-Fate style.
And with all the rumors about Se Joo being the illegitimate half brother, maybe it was an educated guess?
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:46 AM
Even if Fate is more stylistically SJ's work as compared to TM's, it is still very difficult to prove that that isn't TM's work. Unless the girl has definite proof that TM has plagiarized SJ... I wonder what she has up her sleeve for confronting TM with the truth.
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10 michykdrama
May 14, 2017 at 8:26 PM
The plot thickens! And I'm loving it!
I love how the writer really is interweaving the past lives with the present now and all the little quirks that stayed consistent from past to present- e.g. the Cinnamon stick "smoking" that Hwi Young/Se Joo did/does do. I'm wondering whether really all our main characters are going to recall their past and I wonder what kind of show-down that is going to lead to.
Will Tae Min recall his past? Also, he is truly fated to be a villain just because of who he was previously? Certainly he current life choices don't seem to have been influenced by him knowing his past life, and he chose to be a pathetic plagiarizing pet abuser. So no sympathy for him? I wonder if there is any redemption for him in the end.
Yoo Ah In's smouldering in all the scenes is off the charts. I can understand why Soo Hyun was so flustered and Seol is so giddy in love because damn, 1930s hair or not, the boy is amazing and making me want to melt into a puddle of goo.
Can it quickly be Friday already? I really really cannot wait. Till then, I'm going to be listening to the OST on repeat. I can honestly say, this is my favourite drama OST to date, and I will be getting it when the show is all over, as long as the show doesn't break my heart.
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:40 PM
Oh god, yes! The OST is daebak! the feels!
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:37 PM
Agree with you on that smouldering! And when Hwi Young asked Seol twice if she wanted a recap of the whole kiss - even though it was mockingly- I wanted to scream yes!
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:41 AM
Yes, please, for the sake of their homeland!
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:40 AM
"Yoo Ah In's smouldering in all the scenes is off the charts." Ooh yeah! I used to say in every episode: "Yoo Ah In in his 1930s style is so damn gorgeous", but now I'd like to say "Yoo Ah In as Hwi Young and Se Joo is damn hot in their own way!"
Love all the OST <3
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:40 AM
I don't think TM is fated to be a villain. He has no memories of his past life, and he can make his own choices. He is relatively successful now, so he is afraid if he falls, he will be left with nothing. Coupled with the fact that he knows he is not talented at writing.. double whammy! That's why he can't bring himself to admit to the plagiarism despite being given a chance to rectify his mistake.
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 5:31 AM
I'm torn about him.
Everyone (ok, alot of people) hate him because of what he did to Kitty. Which is terrible, yes, but doesn't automatically make him Evil to me at least. (And before the animal rights people come rushing at me with a pitchfork, I don't condone his actions at all, but objectively speaking, he did bring Kitty to the vet after that and it doesnt seem like he took any joy out of the abuse, he just went crazy. It doesnt justify his actions but again, I don't think he deserves to be labelled 100% evil either).
I feel a bit for him because well, clearly his mom is a nut job and his dad was really harsh on him. So don't think he had that much love and support growing up. Plus I can imagine what it must be like to want what someone else had so damn much (Se Joo's writing ability), but never be able to get it.
That being said, I hate hate HATE the fact that he stole Se Joo's work. And yet instead of feeling guilty, he pretends to try and smile at Se Joo and be nice to him. That's such a slap in the face to Se Joo. At least be a tiny bit contrite about the whole matter!
So yeah, I really don't know what to feel about him.... I hate him certainly but at the same time, when he drowns his sorrows with Seol sometimes I wish someone would help him up from the pit he has dug himself into. Just not Seol. Because she is Se Joo's. XD
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:40 AM
Indeed, I am curious how the Show would deal with him. In many of the dramas I've watched so far, the writers had a tendency to let this character spiral down to the deepest psychotic abyss. I hope he will get treated and I hope he will have the spine to move out of his toxic home.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:40 AM
You read my mind. Every time I watch Tae Min drown in his sorrow, I felt a pang of pity towards him, when I know I shouldn't. He can look really desperate and pathetic sometimes. But then whenever that happened, I'm reminded of what he did to the cat, and I just can't help telling myself that I shouldn't sympathise with this psychotic pet abuser. He's gone to that creepy place of no return and that's supposed to be it.
Honestly I partly think Kwak Shi Yang's portrayal of Tae Min is the reason why I can get wishy washy about how I feel about him.
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11 allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 8:28 PM
So much cuteness in this episode! I cannot seem to get over how many times Se Joo has smiled in this episode alone. And is it too much to ask for another kiss in the present??
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banana
May 14, 2017 at 8:45 PM
YES WE NEED A KISS IN THE PRESENT TOO
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:48 PM
and in the library, please. Thankyouverymuch.
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aoiaheen
May 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM
With books tumbling out of the bookshelf as SJ pushes her against it (or vice versa)
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wandergirl
May 14, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Sounds like that scene in Atonement ?
klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 14, 2017 at 9:56 PM
While Seol is orally reading one of Seju's books, pls. ??
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:42 AM
Holly guacamoleeee I can't unsee it!
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:41 AM
Or SJ reading it with his smexy voice. Lol Omo it's getting hot in here. ???
Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 9:14 PM
He literally lit up when she called him toward the end of the episode, he just LIT UP and smiled and seemed so pleased. GAH.
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12 Thandy
May 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM
I'm loving this drama so much . I hope we get more pieces of that memory , because I'm sure something is missing. The chemistry between Seol and Se Ju is soo...awww. That kiss scene was so good.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:33 AM
I want to see TM in the 1930s. I am very curious as to what he is in the past. We have seen Seol's mom in the past, but not TM. Where is he?
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13 Dezzy
May 14, 2017 at 8:35 PM
"Cry me a damn river, you creepy plagiarizing pet abuser." Preach!
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:31 AM
I wonder what that female student has in store for TM when she confronts him with the plagiarism issue. I hope she is not just wildly accusing him of plagiarism, but doing it based on substantial proof.
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14 Dezzy
May 14, 2017 at 8:42 PM
I spent the first half of the episode livid at Hwi-young. I expected him to push her away, sine we'd already seen that they were bickering and distant when Yul asked him to treat her infected wound. But damn, can't you let a girl down easier than that? He went for every single insecurity she has about her appearance, lack of experience with men, and sincerity in searching for her savior.
That was honestly hard for me to watch. Happily, she held her composure and didn't just fall on her face weeping like Inwould have. She's a tough cookie in both lives- I love this girl!
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
May 14, 2017 at 8:52 PM
me too. i cringed a lot in that scene. but i LOVED his face when he saw her on stage. yeaaaahhhh
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 8:52 PM
Ha! Me too! I was so upset at him pushing him away and thisclose to cursing him to be a noble idiot. But idiot he is not. And this was then I realised how similar Se Joo and Hwi Young actually are, regardless of the era they lived in. I mean, they are still both different characters with different life, but more similarities are coming to surface, from their habits, their attitude and even their blatant way of saying things.
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Ennui Young
May 14, 2017 at 10:02 PM
@alert
Yes. Hwi-young is not a noble idiot. He will be totally stupid if he openly professes his love to Soo-Hyun, because his incognito is a third-rate writer who, after finally gets his name removed from the black list, becomes a playboy leading a decadent life in bars and among women.
A striking parallel I find between Hwi-young and Se-jo is that they don't have any family. I am actually curious if the story will reveal the birth family of Se-jo. I feel the drama will not have enough space to elaborate all the details.
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Ennui Young
May 14, 2017 at 9:49 PM
In a normal situation, I will probably slap Hwi Young's beautiful face on behalf of Soo-Hyun, but in a precarious situation like theirs, any sense of "normalcy" in human relationship is a luxury. My heart actually breaks for Hwi-young , precisely because he deliver it in such an unaffected, cold-blooded way. This is what means to be a leader for an underground independent movement. The drama has shifted gear completely from episode 9 to the hefty part of the 1930s past. Hw-young needs to prioritize the freedom of the country, the survival of the group, and the safety of an individual before everything else. He's already disowned by his own birth family because he quit medical school to pursue a greater revolution cause, and now he needs to give up his love for his bestie. Moreover, any personal tie will jeopardize his life, and hence the entire group.
What he says to Soo-young sounds mean, but it makes sense. He says that he doesn't treat her like a woman, because he tries to remind her that she passes as a man to survive and hide her original identity. It doesn't mean that he doesn't see her as a woman. Also, Soo-hyun's wearing perfume is totally dangerous, because begin a secret assassin, she cannot leaves any tangible trace or evidence that makes herself easily identifiable.
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Dezzy
May 14, 2017 at 10:08 PM
Oh I get it. I understand all the reasons he should and did push her away. No arguments about that.
I still felt he went further verbally than was necessary.
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Dezzy
May 14, 2017 at 10:23 PM
Part of it was also just visceral for me. I was literally wincing through my fingers during that whole scene. I felt so so bad for her. Him too, cause of course, he felt terrible.
I know it's not rational but I wanted to scream, "whatever happened to it's not you, it's me."
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K To
May 15, 2017 at 8:31 AM
I think the over-excessive cruelty was his way of holding himself back (noble idiocy as mentioned above?).
Look at how he couldn't stop advancing towards her almost as if she was a prey, and she being inexperienced, didn't know how to ward him off either.
Hurting her would make her more likely to help both of them keep that distance.
And to be honest, I was kinda in awe of how the actor playing Se Joon pulled it off. It's was movie-grade acting!
Ennui Young
May 15, 2017 at 1:50 PM
The actor who plays Se-jo/ Hwi-Young is Yoo Ah In, who is indeed a recognized movie actor. He garnered a lot of awards for his acting in blockbuster hits in 2015, Veteran and Sado (The Throne). My personal favorite films by him are earlier indie films like Wandeuki (aka Punch, which is also a box office hit), Shim's Family and Boys of Tomorrow.
michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 3:48 AM
It's the best kind of noble angst I could ask for, because it makes sense, he truly is putting his cause first and his own personal life and love second, and I can't help but swoon really really hard when you combine all that with Yoo Ah In and his 1930s hair. (I know it's shallow but heyhey, I'm only human)
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM
Hey, I'm a human too^^ Already fell for him in the first 1930s scene, but now I fell real hard.
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Dezzy
May 15, 2017 at 11:51 AM
+1 The 1930's hair is something we can all agree on.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 6:19 PM
#odetoseohwiyoung
LOL @fleurvoyeur123 this stuck in my mind ever since you mentioned it in last recap haha
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 7:55 PM
Maybe we should really write an Ode to Seo Hwi Young for the final episode XD
alert
May 16, 2017 at 1:15 AM
Definitely! We must! XD
15 banana
May 14, 2017 at 8:44 PM
The story is getting more and more interesting and I LOVE IT! How is it that Yoo Ah In becomes more charming as the series progresses? It's so sad this drama is so underrated. It definitely deserves more love.
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allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 8:52 PM
The last 2 episodes deserve so much love. The leads are all killing it especially our Yoo Ah In as SJ. The story is getting better now and I honestly hope that we get more episodes just to see them longer.
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Maryse
May 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM
he is becoming more charming (as Se Ju) because his hair is growing ..
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16 mango
May 14, 2017 at 8:52 PM
We got a lot of information in this episode !
I wondered if Seol's mother and Tae Min worked together to dissolute the resistance. They might have betrayed their country and manipulated Soo Hyun. Yul discovered their plan and died because he got in the way. Hwi Young was falsely accused therefore Soo Hyun shot him. It's all based on the presumption of Seol's memory being true.
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:48 AM
But Soo Hyun seems to be a smart girl... I hope she doesn't get manipulated easily. Unless they gave her false proof that Se Joo was the one who caused her father's suicide.
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mango
May 15, 2017 at 9:57 AM
I think they killed Yul and Soo Hyun wanted to avenge him. She is smart but when emotions take over reason, you don't think too far. That's why the death of her mentor, friend and supposed "savior" caused that tragedy.
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17 wandergirl
May 14, 2017 at 8:57 PM
This episode just confirmed a lot of the questions I had throughout the drama, whether there are others that were reincarnated from the Kyungsung past and if someone besides Se-joo will ever see Jin-oh. We don't know yet what role did Tae-min play in the 1930s story, but for now I hope there will be a showdown - Jin-oh, don't let Tae-min run away with original copy of Fate!!
I also had a hunch before on who Soo-hyun shot in the past and well, it would definitely have more consequences and be more heartbreaking for our present day couple if it were Hwi-young. This hasn't been fully confirmed in Ep 10, but judging from the way Seol broke down and from next week's teaser, it looks to me like the drama is heading that way. My guess is it's actually Hwi-young who asked her to shoot him - probably for noble reasons, in the name of freedom and country.
Back to 2017, I love how everything about Se-joo is quiet but meaningful - the way he slowly reached out to hold Seol's hand (I never thought I would swoon over such a simple action), how he shares his life and his space with Jin-oh, heck, even the way he let Tae-min sleep over at his house despite the fact that he stole something he worked hard on. I honestly didn't like how he seemed like a petulant child at the beginning of the drama, but I'm happy to be see he's grown to be so much more than that.
Totally not related to the important plotlines, but I also love how everyone lives/works in spaces with tons and tons of books. Now, if only I had someone like Se-joo who will bribe me with first editions and Hwi-young who will kiss the daylights out of me...
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:45 PM
I also suspect that HY asked SH to shoot him. The whole scene felt like he was ready for her to shoot him.
I've also grown to love present Se Joo. He really is just this hard shell with a gooey center. He even pulled the blanket up for the drunken Tae Min - in honor of those times when they were roommates and when Se Joo shared his work with him. SJ does have a lot of love to give - if only people would stop abandoning and betraying him.
The sets are indeed amazing in this drama!
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wandergirl
May 14, 2017 at 10:20 PM
Did you catch the special episode with GKP narrating the BTS? The set designers apparently built Carpe Diem from scratch! CT hit the jackpot with a talented crew and cast.
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Netting Them Dramas
May 14, 2017 at 9:49 PM
Is it really Hwi Young that she shot though? Anyone else noticed the flash of someone with a hat (that looks very much like Yul's) sitting in front of the typewriter before it got replaced with Hwi Young in Seol's flashback at the end?
It would kind of make sense if he did something to wrong his friends that landed him as the only one stuck as a ghost among the trio, and I do think that might be the direction the writer is trying to get us to think towards.
And yes, the biggest obstacle to me liking this drama at the start was how bratty SeJu was shown to be. Even though now they're peeling back those asshole-ry layers, I still feel like it's mostly my immense affection for the Gyeongsung trio that's carrying over to the present day incarnations. I cant wait for my affection for the present day trio( or rather duo) to catch up because I have absolute faith in this writer!
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wandergirl
May 14, 2017 at 10:32 PM
The flashback earlier in the drama? I kinda remember there was a flash of hat somewhere, but I'm not sure how that will play out given what we've seen so far. It can go either way, but I'd be truly heartbroken if we discover later that Yul betrayed his friends; he doesn't strike me as someone without loyalty. Then again, we still have six episodes left and there are stories waiting to unravel.
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Netting Them Dramas
May 15, 2017 at 12:33 AM
I think that might be what the writer wants us to think, that Yul might have betrayed his friends, but only to pull a fast one on us. As obvious as some of the 'mysteries' have been, from past experience I know this writer to slowly build up smaller mysteries to bigger, more shocking revelations. So I wouldn't despair just yet!
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edgepee
May 14, 2017 at 9:56 PM
That hand holding scene. That scene made me flutter more than the kiss did.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:26 AM
I was very impressed that SJ gave his permission to take the manuscript for Fate without much begging on TM's part. If it were me, I would make him beg so hard and still not give it to him. But SJ seems to have moved on from the incident and doesn't, in fact, take it to heart anymore. That's why he can so easily offer up the manuscript to TM when he asks for it.
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18 Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 9:00 PM
This was a great episode with lots of development! Tae-min can see Jin-oh, gasp! Our ship is happily sailing and both parties are being smart and relying on each other like a couple should. I did think bringing Mom back was a very weak plot point. I understand it happened to shake up Seol and make her vulnerable so we can progress with the mystery of who she shot 80 years ago, but I was absolutely furious at Mom for showing her face when Seol had clearly moved on and was doing just fine remembering her previous life on her own time. Only six more episodes...! Thanks for the recap, gummi!
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 9:26 PM
Tell me about it! And it's painful to actually watch this episode of bad Mom on Mother's Day LOL. Glad that Seol spoke her mind and so, so happy for her that she doesn't have to struggle alone now.
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 10:19 PM
Oh goodness I forgot it was Mother's Day while I was watching the episode. (I did not forget to wish my own mother well, though!) What a crappy mom Seol has. Her excuse of running away was so weak. I'm glad Seol told her to leave. Don't keep that negativity in your life.
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ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:48 PM
I'm glad Bang Jin's mom yelled at Seol's mom and ordering her to leave before Seol comes home. Already a single mom and probably not making a lot of money, that lady opened up her heart and her home to Seol.
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 10:20 PM
So glad Bang Jin's mom spoke her mind. Seol is surrounded by people (and a ghost) who care for her. She doesn't need her sorry excuse for a mother barging back into her life now that she's moved on.
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edgepee
May 14, 2017 at 10:00 PM
SIX MORE?! where has time gone...
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Sunflowerdiva
May 14, 2017 at 10:22 PM
I know! I just realized we hit episode 10 out of 16, which is why the plot is thickening... Gotta build it up for a few more episodes to unravel the mystery by episode 14 or 15. And then get our happy episode 16 to wrap everything up. Gah, I'll miss this show, I don't want it to end, it's so interesting!
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:22 AM
I don't like it when Mom disappears for so many years, and the first thing she does when she reappears is to order Seol to stay away from SJ and not let the ill fates repeat. Too late for that, woman! Who is she to instruct people on what to do or not to do?
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19 Ek Ladhki Thi
May 14, 2017 at 9:07 PM
Welp, Go Kyung-pyo is making me have second lead syndrome again. That ending though, what the funk Baek Tae-min?!
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allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 10:59 PM
It's like Jealousy Incarnate all over again.
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Ek Ladhki Thi
May 14, 2017 at 11:44 PM
Right?! I couldn't finish Jealousy Incarnate because I liked him so much and I knew he wouldn't end up with the girl.
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allaroundfangirl
May 14, 2017 at 11:58 PM
But he is soo good in one sided loves and so much more on the bromance. Hope he gets to be lead in his next drama.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:19 AM
Forget SLS. I just hope Yoo gets a chance to be seen by Seol.
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allaroundfangirl
May 15, 2017 at 8:26 AM
and when he does, please let it be the real him and not him possessing someone- like one of those idols he was watching on TV
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rofiat
May 15, 2017 at 5:15 PM
do you watch hindi tv shows also judging by your name
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20 mai-mai
May 14, 2017 at 9:09 PM
So many revelations from this episode. My heart broke for our ghost as Seol remember his face from her past memories.
The OSTs always got me. They did a good job.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:16 AM
Yes! So many revelations. I didn't realize Seol's mom also has recollections of the past. Why does she have those, I wonder? What is the condition for one to have them?
Even TM doesn't have recollections of the past. SJ too, until he comes across the typewriter.
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21 alert
May 14, 2017 at 9:12 PM
I really like the idea that all three of them had to complete the story, since the narration from one's point of view is not totally reliable. And I love seeing the story based on Jin Oh/ Yul's pov, Hwi Young/Se Joo's pov and now it's going to be completed from Seol/ Soo Hyun's pov. A writer can write what he wants to write, but at the end of the day, a good writing needs to be thorough and satisfying to the readers. And this writing (both Se Joo’s and this dramas writing) respects the characters enough and give them the space to show their own perspective to the same story. Previously I’ve been thinking that this drama writer has been stingy with the 30s story, and kept giving us the same scenes. But little that I realised that it’s actually the same scenes but coming from three different narrator’s perspectives - Yul, Hwi Young and Soo Hyun.
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 3:51 AM
Yes. I really really love how each 1930s scene gets replayed but with a new revelation each time as we get different points of view. Like how the characters get built up also as we get more insights into how they behave from different scenes. It's beautiful story telling right there.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:14 AM
Me too. I love how the same scene is added layers and given a different perspective when seen through different eyes. It enriches those scenes and make them more significant than they really are.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:43 AM
Agree!
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22 alert
May 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM
I also love the cheeky remarks and banter between Jin Oh and Se Joo - who does Soo Hyun really love? If it’s according to Jin Oh, of course it’s going to be him. If it’s up to Se Joo, of course it’s going to be Hwi Young. And them reading the online comments, arguing about shipping lead character/secondary character/ side characters etc. It’s just like how all of us shipping for our fav OTP LOL.
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nelly
May 15, 2017 at 12:15 AM
Personally, for me that was the best scene in this episode.
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 3:57 AM
I'm totally Team Hwi Young. Because you don't get kissed like that and walk away unaffected. ? Plus, for me at least, Jin Oh is too much of an open book to Soo Hyun, where as Hwi Young is more mysterious and intruiging.
Also, Soo Hyun knows Jin Oh is an integral part of the youth revolution, but she doesn't know Hwi Young is. So maybe ironically she may think Hwi Young to be the safer choice.
Or maybe I'm just a crazy fan girl trying to justify her OTP. Haha. Yeah, it's probably that! ?
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:56 AM
Gurl, I'm with you and Team Hwi Young ? He's the 1930s tsundere. She has a cheerful nature, just like Jin Oh. She just naturally gets attracted to the nonchalant mysterious playboy.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 5:26 AM
#teamHwiYoung definitely! Who doesn't love bad boys? Especially the one who can kiss like that!
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michykdrama
May 15, 2017 at 5:54 AM
The best part is that he isn't even a real bad boy! I don't like truly bad boys, just the ones like him who are prickly on the outside but a softie on the inside. And when they pretend to push away the girl for a greater cause? Im lost, the character has got me hook line and sinker. I'm such a sucker for a good noble idiot.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:03 AM
Hee. I was trying to put myself in Soo Hyun's shoes. In her pov, he's probably the bad boy who flirts around, but draws her in with his flirty banter.
As for me, he totally had me at his writing (both Hwi Young and Se Joo). I'm such a book geek and my major flaw is men who write well. The hero's a hot geek is probably one of the reason I stayed with the show despite not loving it much (up until ep 5 then I'm a gone case)
klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM
Yup, mysterious playboy all the way! Of course if we were Soo-hyun's friend we'd probably go, "why not Yul? He's good-looking, stable, and will treat you like a queen!" And Soo-hyun would just smile knowingly. Lol ?
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 9:04 AM
"Why not Yul?" Because Soo Hyun loves challenge. Teehee!
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Ennui Young
May 15, 2017 at 3:49 PM
The fact that Soo Hyun is always inquisitive about hwi-Young's whereabouts and is always anxious to read Hwi-Young's writings has already speak volumes. The ship has sailed for Yul/Yoo long time back, way before Yul/Yoo considers Soo-Hyun a woman. The relationship between Hwi Young &Soo Hyun is the relationship between a writer and his reader, which also defines the connection between Se-ju and Seol. Seol falls in love with Se-ju's writing in the same way Soo-Hyun falls for Hwi-Young's writing despite his dandy facade. All in all, Chicago Typewriter is a love story between a writer and a reader, which transcends beyond time. Gosh...how romantic Jin Soo Won is?!
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 7:52 PM
"All in all, Chicago Typewriter is a love story between a writer and a reader, which transcends beyond time." -- THIS!
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:09 AM
Their bantering does remind me of the online commentators that are constantly shipping this couple and that. So cute.
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23 ar_arguably romantic
May 14, 2017 at 9:55 PM
This episode raised the question of what is the proper expected etiquette when two people find out that their past lives were involved in some ill fate. I'm not sure if there is some sort of Korean cultural thing about this...
For Bang Jin's mom, it seems like the best course is to be good to the person you've wronged, which is why some enemies get reborn as mother and child.
For Seol's mom, both parties have to stay the heck away from each other or the ill fate will definitely repeat somehow. It seems like Tae Min will be bent on repeating the ill fate.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:06 AM
I think it's also about the choices that one makes. TM's dad gave him a chance to come clean about Fate and even implored him to start from the bottom again. Fearing that he might not be brave enough, TM's dad even took it upon himself to seek out the publisher to stop the reprints of Fate because he doesn't want TM to depend too much on that novel. However, TM fears the fall and doesn't want to restart his career as a nobody. He refuses to let go of Fate. That, I suspect, is going to be his downfall.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:09 AM
Totally with you. It is about choices that one makes. Whether you live in the past, or you live in the present, you are as good as your choices. You determine your own life. Like Yoo said, not all villains who's reincarnated stays bad. Seol's mom chose to run away from making choice, and she kept on choosing a bad one for totally selfish reason. But Seol and Se Joo especially, decided to embrace their past, face it together and move forward regardless how painful it is. Those two are people who live in the day - carpe diem - and they weren't afraid to make different choices in life.
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24 FiyaShady
May 14, 2017 at 9:56 PM
And now waiting for heart-wrenching, cry-me-a river episode with a bittersweet truth/plot twist. This drama deserved much love ???
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25 Dramasaurus
May 14, 2017 at 9:59 PM
Baek Taemin's mother is such a psychopath.. I grit my teeth whenever I see her.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:02 AM
She is, isn't she? However, she doesn't seem to know Fate is not written by TM. Now that she knows, what is she going to do about it? I fear her continuing to bring SJ down is going to have an adverse effect and bring TM down instead.
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26 aami
May 14, 2017 at 10:21 PM
so much feels.... friday is tooo far away
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27 A
May 14, 2017 at 10:33 PM
I watched ep 9 after all the gushing about the kiss here. Well it was frustratin to watch. Both the leads have such luscious kissable lips and yet not one opens and moves them while kissing. It's like a pair of lips have been smacked stuck together and are unable to move or separate. It was so frustrating .
Despite this there were the feels , yes, but why could they both not have a full normal long kiss, with lips moving in accordance??
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alert
May 14, 2017 at 10:42 PM
A beautiful kiss doesn't mean it has to have that lips moving (or any tongue movement LOL). A simple kiss can be off the chart when it comes with the right body language, the right cinematography, the right mood, and with the right people. CT kiss was never about that hot, seductive kiss in which cameras zoom in on the face for the lip movement. It's about the mood of which it was done, the build up to the scene, and most importantly, on how it is directed on camera.
Which is why, imho, the ep 9 kiss has different level of hotness. :)
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A
May 14, 2017 at 10:56 PM
Yeah, the other factors that you have put down made this likeable and quite hot but it's not about closing in on moving lips, (tongue isn't permitted i.e. is a no no in dramaland right?) And slithering bodies .no. it's just a natural thing, lips open and move around. But I get what you say. still , a proper natural one is definitely wanted from these two leads. :).
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May 14, 2017 at 11:58 PM
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 12:00 AM
Lol yes, usually tongue isnt permitted in dramaland but cable seems like they are allowed to bend the rules lol. I get what you mean too, it's Tvn anyway. The land where hot drama kisses are permissable ha!
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nelly
May 15, 2017 at 12:13 AM
Hip hip hooray for tvn :D
A
May 15, 2017 at 12:14 AM
So let's hope there is atleast one real good one coming!!
klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 9:50 AM
Hooray for tvN! ??
s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 4:00 AM
I agree. Everything in that scene was done just right, and with the right amount of intensity. That's why it was so hot.
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Ennui Young
May 15, 2017 at 12:42 PM
Actually, I have some complaints for the kiss scene as well. I mean, both Yoo Ah In and Lim soo Jung can do kiss scenes. (For female fans, please check out Jang Ok Jung/ Secret Love Affairs/Fashion King--don't go gaga over YAI more). But as a fan of Jin Soo Won (aka the scriptwriter of Chicago), I know that she is very "conservative" and old-style when it comes to intimate scenes.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 8:25 PM
Perhas Jin Soo Won belongs to the group who believe that intimate scenes should be left to readers/viewers imagination instead of laying everything out there for everyone to see. It's more lyrical, I guess.
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Ennui Young
May 15, 2017 at 10:32 PM
Yes. Lyrical!
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edgepee
May 16, 2017 at 4:57 AM
Does this mean we don't get kisses a la SLA?! *sulks*
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28 edgepee
May 14, 2017 at 10:34 PM
Ok one laaaast comment.
Dear Yoo Ah In,
Thank you for taking up this project. Thank you for not allowing the whole MS fiasco affect your performance. I hope that gets resolved soon and that people will soon eat their words for coming down so hard on you. If this is how you really feel about the arts and the impact it should have, then I think we could really be friends in real life.
Dear Writer Jin Soo-Wan,
THANK YOU, from the bottom of my heart. I realise that you are just as much a star of this show as the actors are. You are amazing and now I wanna watch every damn thing you wrote and will write.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 12:01 AM
Don't forget the music director or whomever in charge of that OST! One of the best OST ever graced dramaland!
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edgepee
May 15, 2017 at 1:22 AM
Oh yes how did I forget this person?! I don't usually like every song. But so far, 10 episodes in, I've saved every single song on Spotify (4 songs only lol).
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM
Thank you for the message to Yoo Ah In. You sum up my feeling well. I'm sure his motto is Carpe Diem too.
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29 osmanthustea
May 14, 2017 at 10:46 PM
Uh, isn't hand-holding (other than when running away from baddies or to run to shelter during rain) like a major step in cementing a romantic relationship?
I'm uncomfortable with that only because I didn't feel like the boys (Se-joo and Yul) have openly agreed that they'll be rivals in love. If Se-joo's not gonna be open about it to Yul who's been trusting him, I'd rather he play the unaware-of-his-own-feelings character or be noble idiot.
Granted, Se-joo did hint at it when he told Yul after the first dream segment that he's not gonna mask his feelings like Hwi-young did... but it didn't feel like he made it clear to Yul.
Their bromance is really important to me, and I think the best thing about this show, so I'd hate it to be shaken by feelings of doubt and betrayal. I suppose Yul now knows that Soo-hyun may not necessarily have liked him back, but I'm so worried he'll feel betrayed by Hwi-young's kiss.
And man, if only we get to also find out the actual storyline that Se-joo has been publishing, W Two Worlds-style! Because it's so ambiguous when the guys were discussing the script at the start of the episode, and we don't know how much details Se-joo gave away in the novel.
I'm easily convinced by Hwi-young's charisma, but I just feel a bit disconnect to Se-joo. I think it's the buzz haircut that I can't get over. x= It's so jarring to me that if I didn't have this meta info as a viewer, I wouldn't even have equated Se-joo as Hwi-young re-incarnated!
And that female student has to be the sister of Se-joo's stalker, right? Daebak.
I find some of the revelations about Yul in this episode a bit forced though - the part about him needing to be near the typewriter, and him not remembering anything when he first woke up (at least that's what Kissasian's subs said). Especially the latter, because previous episodes seemed to indicate that he remembered most things until the period very close to his death?
But that last scene where Tae-min turned around and acknowledged Yul's presence was super eerie. I can't imagine what the consequences are, but I'm quite fearful. (Although thank god Yul stayed behind to watch the house - at least Se-joo will have a better idea of Tae-min's twisted mind.) And now this also opens up questions on why Bang-jin can see Yul. Initially I'd gone with the theory that it's because she's a shaman's daughter, but maybe she's also linked to everyone else in the past?
PS. Any one has a theory on why her code name happens to be the same as the name of Gyeon-woo's breed? There's got to be something there, right?
PPS. Anyone else keep hearing "Vitamin" whenever someone says "Baek Tae-min" in full? Gosh. It makes me want to burst out laughing at the most inappropriate scenes.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:58 AM
I thought the sister, if she really is the stalker's sister, hates SJ for what he has done to her brother. Why then does she take SJ's side by confronting TM with the book? In fact, I am wondering how she knows Fate doesn't belong to TM. Even Seol, who likes the book, doesn't recognize it as SJ's.
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 5:04 AM
In contrast to your opinion, I think the huge difference in their haircut made a big impact. Because even though SJ is HY's reincarnation, it doesn't mean that they are one person/the same person. They look perfectly like two different people with different personalities in different times, like an ancestor and a descendant with 90 years age gap. I would have called it cliche if both SJ and HY sported the same haircut and the lazy makeup team only styled them a bit differently.
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 8:55 AM
I don't think they're gonna be rivals in love. Ghost Yoo knows he is a ghost. He doesn't stand a chance to win a living girl, hence he approves SJ & Seol's relationship. There's no such betrayal in this "threesome" relationship. What Yoo wants now is Seol knowing his feeling and how he died so he can go to nirvana peacefully and not stuck in the typewriter forever.
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30 inna
May 14, 2017 at 11:43 PM
So many sweet moments... I might get diabetes coz of it lol.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
May 15, 2017 at 9:52 AM
My sugar level is rising dangerously, too. First with TLAHL and now this. Lol. ?
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31 panshel
May 14, 2017 at 11:58 PM
Se Joo is killing me. "Then let's go on a date." He's jealous of Yul. So shouldn't he and Seol be riding on one bicycle? He sounded so sincere when he said, "Make sure you read it." On top of making Seol promise to tell him everything, then holding her hand, asking her out to dinner, and HUGGING her, Se Joo was heart-fluttering af today.
If I were Seol, I would keep shooting so I could see more of my past life and piece together the fragmented memories. It's no surprise that Soo Hyun killed Hwi Young; it was either him or Yul. I am petrified that Tae Min can see Jin Oh. Tae Min is crazy; we don't know what he's going to do. As for his mysterious student, I like this girl already. I mean, I'm afraid for her life, but yes, cut him down to size! I predict her oppa is Se Joo's stalker who killed himself. This must be one of those stories where everyone is reincarnated. I bet Writer Baek and Tae Min’s evil mom are reincarnated too.
Hwi Young, why you gotta be an asshole?! "If you're going to do it, do it right." Patriotism never looked so good. I love how Soo Hyun was equally cool about it. Their non-reactions to the kiss made it even hotter. Yul is a sweetheart. "Look at how beautiful you are when you smile."
I winced when Se Joo asked Jin Oh who Soo Hyun loved. That is a hurtful question since Jin Oh knows the answer. LMAO at Se Joo's "There are always some people obsessed with auxiliary characters." That's how second lead syndrome was created.
Thanks lots for the recap, @gummimochi!
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nelly
May 15, 2017 at 12:11 AM
I completely forgot about the stalker. Oh, you are right, she must be his sister! But why would she not approach Se-joo instead?
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:54 AM
Does Yoo know the answer to SH's heart? SH didn't give any indication that she likes HY in the past timelines that we have seen in the show. HY doesn't want anything to do with SH for fear of disrupting their plans. They just happen to get along well with each other.
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32 nelly
May 15, 2017 at 12:07 AM
I´m wondering where the writer is going with this beautiful story. Everything in the 30th plot feels dangerous. The stakes are high and we know anyone of them could die at any given moment for their work. (And gosh it is always stunning to look at). But the present on the other hand is rather low key. Sure we have a lying, thieving, cat abusing, bad writer on the loose, who now can apparently see ghosts, but I don´t know...it feels to me that either Seol or Se-joo could take him down at any moment, because he comes of as rather pathetic right now. There is some danger coming from him, but right now it feels to me more like...meh.
Furthermore, if Seol really shot Se-joo ( that would be a bummer indeed), I am still quite sure that those two are able to move on from this. These are two really strong individuals that won´t let their past life dictate their present.
The only one who really is going to be affacted by the revelations of the past is our friendly neighborhood ghost. I LOVE him to pieces, but he needs to move on.
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:47 AM
Can TM really see ghosts? Bummer. I was hoping that Yoo could play a prank or two on him and make him a tad scared of entering SJ's house.
Ah! How can I wait for another week just to find out if TM really saw Yoo by the window?
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 5:10 AM
I think the present doesn't mean to tell the story of how SJ tackles Tae Min, but how he tackles his writer's block and redefine his purpose of writing. Ghost Yoo gives him the way to find it and Seol is his catalyst.
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33 gadis
May 15, 2017 at 12:33 AM
I have to admit that I swooned and squealed at Se-ju's straightforward "I've wanted to do it for a long time" line. He sounded so sincere, 100% all-in in his new romantic relationship, and clearly having the time of his life. I fervently hope that he carried that attitude through the upcoming hard times, even when he found out about the tragedy of their past lives. Because like what Yoo said, not everyone born into the same role again. People can always make their own choice. And I hope all of them will stop feeling guilty for the bad things they did in their past lives. After all, it was committed by a different person, and that wasn't a burden that should disturb their present lives.
Now that all players finally stand on their respective places, I can't wait to see where the stories would take us. And also to find out what the ultimate goal actually is. Bring it on, Chicago Typewriter!!
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 8:51 AM
The drama keeps referring to "carpe diem". I do hope it stays true to the motto; seize the day. Instead of dwelling on the past, the characters have to live at the moment. I think Se Joo has done that after he began writing "Chicago Typewriter", and it seems he began to forgive what Baek family has done to him. Now it's time for Seol to move on and live without regret.
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34 gear
May 15, 2017 at 1:01 AM
Hoomygod a LOT of revelation in one episode!! I can't handle it!!
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s9313071e
May 15, 2017 at 3:44 AM
Yes, I love the revelation that TM's father has known all along that TM has stolen Fate from SJ. And now Mom also knows. What is she going to do now? Is she going to continue to bring SJ down? Or are her evil plans going to bring TM down instead?
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35 I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:15 AM
I already had a feeling that Soo Hyun shot Hwi Young (though it might not true since she cut that past scene short), so I wasn't surprised but still my heart dropped watching it. I'm not surprised too that Taemin was one of their company in past life. I'm more surprised that he can see Ghost Yoo and his mom didn't know that he stole "Fate", and there's another person (who's that girl???) who knew about it.
I also looove this episode because we can see Han Se Joo is growing as a better and mature man. He's willing to give Tae Min his own script to safe his ass, he's protecting Seol and encouraging her to face her fear. In the previous episodes it was Seol who gave him a lot of encouragement when he was down, but now it is Se Joo who always consoles her. I love ya, Show!
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:15 AM
*typo: He's willing to give Tae Min his own script to save his ass
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36 I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 4:18 AM
Oh, one more thing: it seems all the characters in CT are entangled in their 1930s life. Now I wonder who daddy Baek was in 1930s :p
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37 edgepee
May 15, 2017 at 4:22 AM
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edgepee
May 15, 2017 at 4:26 AM
So I was rewatching and realised the significance of the cycling date between Se Joo and Seol.
Se Joo was fulfilling Hwi Young's wish to freely date RSH...represented by that super fun ride around town Yul gave RSH in the past. When Se Joo decided to "go all out for love", he did what he'd "always wanted to do" (this was what he said to her at the beginning of the date).
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I Will Goryeo You
May 15, 2017 at 5:16 AM
Agree! Se Joo did what Hwi Young always wanted to do and couldn't ever do. Aah it made me feel sad and also huge respect toward these young people in the past who sacrificed their youth for the sake of their country.
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38 growingbeautifully
May 15, 2017 at 7:45 AM
Thanks gummimochi!
Still so stylish, and now more delicious with the relationships strengthening and the past informing the present. I am pleased to see that with the revelations of his memories and the re-starting of his writing, Se Joo has decided to change quite tremendously.
After all the protestations and resistance, I was a little surprised at how straight an arrow Se Joo is when he decides to get the girl, and it indicates what kind of boyfriend he'd have been in the past, if he'd allowed himself that luxury.
I also really like how with the contract, Se Joo has finally accepted Yul as a ghost friend, rather than a pain, and has begun to speak to him more as such, showing even some concern, instead of the scolds, sarcasm and rejections before.
The point of great interest now is whether what Seol said to her mother can come to pass, ie she would face her 'same' fate without fear, and overcome or change what was once tragic. Is that not the reason for past lives being recalled and the same persons being brought together again, afterall.
This show will not be complete until not only the past wrongs are righted (probably with regard to Se Joo and Tae Min of the past), the unfinished is resolved in the present, Seol has conquered her demons and Yul finds his true place of belonging apart from that typewriter. Unfortunately that probably also means that he needs to 'pass over' to his proper home and let go of Seol, and we lose our winsome ghost.
I envision a bitter-sweet ending. What do you think?
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fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 9:01 AM
I'm pretty sure the writer will close the curtain neatly. I would love to have that bitter-sweet ending than a tragic ending :p
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 9:17 AM
I'm hoping for a bitter-sweet ending as well. Although I think I could foresee a lot of tears and heartbreaks coming our way.
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39 fleurvoyeur
May 15, 2017 at 8:12 AM
Another fantastic episode with many revelation and feelings! I love Se Joo being mature and very supportive of Seol without overprotective. I sympathize with Hwi Young for sacrificing love for a greater cause and to protect Soo Hyun. His longing face when Yul took Soo Hyun's for a ride made me tear up. And I'm glad Se Joo learns from Hwi Young that he has to go all in for love, and he makes up for things that Hwi Young couldn't do.
Besides the bike date, the bromance with Ghost Yoo, I really enjoyed hilarious banter between Chef Daehan and SJ there. On top of them are the fantastic 1930s story and how hot and bothered Hwi Young is!
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40 lovestodream
May 15, 2017 at 8:55 AM
"Cry me a damn river, you creepy plagiarizing pet abuser." So true - no patience for him. I can't believe how much his mom hates Se-joo - WITHOUT knowing that Se-joo is the sole reason for her son's success! I thought it might make a little sense if she was worried that Se-joo could pull the rug out on Tae-min at any point, but I guess she's just a crazy b!tch. Though I guess the flashback when she told homeless teen Se-joo to live as a ghost already covered that . . .
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41 redfox
May 15, 2017 at 10:10 AM
tbh from past dropped hints the developments were predictable. but now I have no idea where it is going.
this is one triangle where I love everyone. if there is anything ill-fated, then the fact they want her to choose between them again. I really want Jin Oh to get his wish but then there is Se Joo being so darn cute and cool at the same time.
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42 rayofsun
May 15, 2017 at 12:28 PM
I probably should try and form coherent thoughts, but all I care about is how adorable Yoo Ah-in's smile is.
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43 alasecond
May 15, 2017 at 1:01 PM
what does sapseri mean ?
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Feliss
May 15, 2017 at 1:43 PM
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Feliss
May 15, 2017 at 1:45 PM
I read somewhere it is the breed of dog Gyun woo
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gear
May 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM
It's Sapsaree/Sapsali, the Korean indigenous dog's breed. Gyun Woo the dog is a Sapsaree.
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44 Feliss
May 15, 2017 at 1:40 PM
I can't stand why in kdrama culture you have to bow to the person who is older as a form of respect, even if the person is out to destroy you.
SJ- "I'm sorry I can't live quietly like a ghost".
Bow.
Left.
Stop bowing to people who treat you like trash! I can't wait to slap her let alone bow.
It's like letting yourself be self-derogative.
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alert
May 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM
It's not kdrama culture, but Asian culture in general, we emphasised highly on the idea of politeness, even to those who don't like us. Being rude to our enemy only shows that we're stooping as low as their level, and showing politeness (in Sejoo's case, bowing) shows he's on higher reasonably ground than her, and that he didn't have to stoop to her level. It's not self-derogative in any way. The best way to defeat your enemy is to be better than them. And Se Joo, being wiser and emotionally better, did just that.
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45 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
May 15, 2017 at 4:14 PM
What else should I do just to show how much I love this Show?????
Loooove the last screen cap! He's so cute trying so hard!
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46 aquietfortitude
May 15, 2017 at 5:48 PM
Never has someone lean in with a grin and threaten to do something for the sake of their homeland sound so...cute. It's enough to me make anyone flush. Hahaha
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47 aweebit
May 15, 2017 at 8:48 PM
Someone please take pity and remind me--why is Yoo Jin Oh called Shin Yul in the past but Yo Jin Oh now? So confused...?
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tofutofu
May 17, 2017 at 1:24 AM
Shin Yul was his original name, and Yo Jin O is his fake name based off SJ's painting Eugene O (Eugene O'Neil) when SJ first caught him. ??
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aweebit
May 23, 2017 at 4:02 PM
That's right! Thanks so much!
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48 Adal
May 15, 2017 at 8:49 PM
Okay. I gotta say this: Yoo Ah In is hot! The man frankly oozes sex appeal in his understated alpha role. I fell for his acting in Six Flying Dragons where his passion and ability for prose blew me away. But I never imagined him in a sexy, modern role. He owns this role. It's not hard to imagine him as the alpha dog, the leader of the resistance. No wonder, Jin Oh or Yul, even as a ghost, defers to him.
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gear
May 17, 2017 at 2:20 AM
He imposed his alpha role to Chef Dae Han in hilarious way too!
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49 Jessi Bear
May 15, 2017 at 10:57 PM
"What did writer Baek do in a previous lifetime to get Taemin for a son?" That made me lollll
I mean really. What DID he do to deserve the creepy whiny pet abuser?
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gear
May 17, 2017 at 2:01 AM
And the creepy whiny grudged-holding wife too :/
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50 Bloop bloop
May 16, 2017 at 7:38 AM
I feel like Shin Yool/Jin Oh is a bit suspicious himself, but I'm also quite unsure especially since it is a bit difficult to predict how the story line will go. But, the reason why I feel that way is for numerous reasons. At the beginning of the drama, when he and Sejoo were in front of Seol's house, the shaman felt a dark aura from one of the boys. But, I doubt that it is Sejoo because the red beans (or whichever they were, I forgot) didn't do much to Sejoo, the shaman didn't react much or say anything when she realized it was Sejoo, and Jin Oh ran away. Also, around the beginning of episode 10, Jin Oh was using Sejoo's laptop, but on the search bar, it said "how to get rid of exorcists". I wonder if that was already there or if Jin Oh searched it up. I'm not sure if I am overlooking it, but to me, Jin Oh looks a bit sad when he sees Sejoo and Seol together, and when he sees how Sejoo acts towards Seol. But, maybe that is because Seol was Jin Oh's love back in the '30s and he wish to see and be with her when he is not a ghost anymore. This is just a thought that I have, so I'm not sure if this will definitely happen, but I am curious as to how the drama will show this.
Aside from that, I wonder if Jin Oh will either possess Sejoo or Bangjin. We know for sure that Jin Oh will not possess Seol because it is written in the contract, and for obvious reasons, why would he possess the woman he wants to appear of as a human. Maybe he wants to possess Sejoo for whatever will happen in the drama or for love reasons, who knows? And the reason why I think there is a slight possibility that it may be Bangjin because she is close to Seol and Bangjin's mom keeps mentioning how Bangjin might get possessed by a ghost or evil spirit throughout the drama, which momma Bangjin doesn't want to happen.
Anywhos, I'm really addicted and in love with this drama. I need more! Haha. I hope this drama will continue to be as great as it is now, and the ending will not disappoint. Hopes for the best!!
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Bloop bloop
May 16, 2017 at 7:52 AM
I forgot to mention that Sejoo made a contract with a Jin Oh, who is a ghost. So, what IF Jin Oh is an evil spirit? What would happen to Sejoo then? Would Jin Oh possess Sejoo or something? I'm not sure. I'm just under the impression that you should never write or be in a contract with a ghost. But I mean, as I said before, who knows what will happen.
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gear
May 17, 2017 at 2:00 AM
Nice theory. Hmm.. I noticed JO was "googling" how to get rid of exorcists too. Maybe it's because in the beginning of their meeting, SJ threaten him that he would call the exorcist if he didn't wanna go away? I think Bang Jin will be the one who help JO to appear in front of Seol.
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