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Dear Hyeri: Episodes 9-10 (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for ENA’s Dear Hyeri where offbeat heroine Shin Hye-sun lives two very different lives.

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So episode 9…beanies where are you all we need to talk😮.

Ten years living in a mountain with no interaction with others and they don’t call in social workers to carry out an assessment of her needs like they did in Castaway Diva? Wouldn’t they follow up with the sister to see if she is able to support her. The mountain is so big that no one has seen her in all that time, she somehow found a tent/cabin and her clothes are not rotten, hair matted/dishevelled, teeth, skin all ok and she is not malnourished... no one finds this odd? The marks are in the wrong place and too new for her to be claiming to be the sister which Hyeri’s boyfriend will pick up on. Also if she is claiming to be the original sister can they can do DNA, check medical records. She won’t recognise either boyfriend and she should talk in a strange way having started to speak for the first time in 10 years. Either way she won’t be talking like the Hyeri we saw working in the parking lot.

In other news what is with the multiplication of annoying female colleagues in the one drama literally all playing the same character but spread between the two different stations why?

9 p.m. anchor plays an idiot anytime he is not on camera what is the point of that character?

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To me the person they found in the woods is Eun Ho as Hye Ri. The cuts are still fresh, the hair is cut in the same way, and I feel like it's the same jeans she had when she got hit by the mini-truck.
The first minutes were so beautiful yet so hard to watch. The scenes in the forest were breathtaking.

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I was all: "Give it to him, Kang Hoon! Don't hold back!"
I don't know why I am making a reverse internet audience (Norm: Demand perfection from FL, forgive ML anything. Me: Gets angry everytime ML turns up on screen, forgives FL for being impertinent, clingy, pretend-dumb, - everything!). I don't know why, but I really do not want Hye-ri or Eun-ho to end up with him. Or, I know why, I guess. Brushing her off ice-coldly like he did really gets my blood boiling - I have talked about before how if you pretend to never have liked someone, you are gaslighting their sense of love - for other people, too. They won't be able to trust their feelings. It's so bad! And rejoicing because she needs help ... Forcing her into relationshipof depency .... Urgh!!!

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Another great episode. The hurt and raw emotions of our male leads was hard to watch. I don't think the real Hyeri has been found yet. I hope our three main characters can receive the counseling they desperately need. I loved that the manager misses having Eun Ho's energy around the office. (I still don't understand why we're seeing so much of that meddlesome 9pm anchor.)

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Episode 9:

-I did not expect Kang Hoon asking all the logical and obvious questions in this episode. Like, I was smacking my forehead saying, “That’s right, my man, ask these questions! Why is Hyun-oh not wondering about her well-being? What the hell is going on here?”

-When Hyun-oh sat down at the psychiatrist chair, I was like, finally! Finally, this man is getting some therapy.

-Hyun-oh’s sobbing at his bed was heartbreaking. I suspect his monumental case of noble idiotism has turned around and bit him. He was probably breaking up with her NOT to hurt her by sharing his life with him (though that’s quite an iffy motive) but by breaking up with her he inflicted an insurmountable pain and suffering on her. Twisted case of karma.

-Glad to see a capable psychiatrist in kdrama. I liked how she told Hyun-oh that Eun-ho case if off limits due to privacy issues but she invited him to discuss his feelings about what happened to him. She was very calm and non-judgmental.

-Disappointed about (luckily, non-fatal) truck of doom. Couldn’t she just stumble into the announcer and scraped her arm in a more realistic way??

-A bit disappointed about the absence of the main heroine for the entire episode. But. Looking back at it, I appreciate the build-up of suspense and mystery that un-reveled in the end.

-Still can’t figure out what’s that role of that Amazon Kids tablet touting 9 o’clock character who has a weird obsession about “dead sister” Hyeri.

-Still not sure what that grandma’s runaway lover adds to overall story. What’s his deal.

As always beautifully shot episode with dialogue that tugs at your heartstrings and characters that you can identify with. Hooked.

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One thing I considered last week that still would make sense this week: Hyeri is the surviving sister who has been playing Eun-ho all this time.

Or not. It's the scars, you know? The scars. Not the new ones: the ones that Ju-yeon noticed in the photograph online.

How come Ju-yeon is so quick on the uptake and Hyun-oh is so slow? Why does he think this girl from his chosen family wants to marry him? It's like he doesn't realize a woman who knows him well might love him in a romantic way. They're both really traumatized characters, but somehow Ju-yeon has emotional intelligence that Hyun-oh lacks. Or are they both cute airheads?

I thought that playing that love song in the background while Hyun-oh cried in his room and was comforted by Granny Loan Shark was a big mistake. That was a well-realized and well-photographed scene. It did not need cheesy music with lyrics to tell you that the character was feeling regret.

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TIL fireflies in Korea are green. That is cool.

Well, it seems like Hye-ri has really taken over. Putting her in the care of Hyun-oh seems like a mistake because he seems to be the person she wants to avoid the most. I guess after living as Hye-ri for 4 years, she has enough to realize that she would rather be an unpaid parking attendant than a black sheep in a new company, especially if everyone thinks that you were dumped by a guy who pretended like he wasn't going to marry.

It's really interesting how PPS has a sabbatical program. Jae-Yong graduated from the sabbatical program. Eun-ho seems to be entering the sabbatical program. So, there are success stories for this.

Maybe Korea is different, but I have never met women as persistent as the women in this drama. If the men had reciprocated any interest, but to constantly chase after someone who says I'm not into you, SMH.

Cho-rong is a bit of an exception. Hyun-oh says that he was mildly interested, rejected her and then acted nice. Bro, you are 40. If you want to reject a woman, you say you are not interested at all and then you act cold. But, it seems consistent with his nice guy/selfish personality. I hope the writer isn't actually advocating for this.

Finally, I still think Cho-rong is the real Hye-ri.

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Was Hye-ri the champion swimmer? I thought it was Eun-ho. But, the internet article said Hye-ri. Does anyone remember?

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the way this drama wants to make this ML romantic lol I'm so done

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I have seen 9 minutes of ep. 10 and I didn't think I would end up hating him even more than I already did, but lo and behold!

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Episode 10: I watched it because I'm having a bad day. I must say that I am disappointed that we are continuing to insist that a person who has DID has only two (2) personalities, maximum. Here's a person whose parents died in an accident, who was adopted by a grandmother she was predisposed not to trust (we still don't know why) and whose sister disappeared. The grandmother then died, which must have cost her some guilt. Didn't she get some personalities from these other losses?

We got some deep insight and healing from the absolute emotional idiot Hyun-oh. Somehow, he figures out that leaving a sad person who is orphaned is kind of mean and might hurt their feelings. He also realizes that, whoa, maybe he should actually stay with the person he wants to be with instead of playing all these stupid games. Great, he has insight. The only insight she seems to have collected is that her illness is out of her control! Has she reintegrated the Hyeri personality? Who knows? How and when did this all start? Who knows?

Also, yeah, OK, good for Hyun-oh that he figured out that the one girlfriend he's ever had is the person for him. But Eun-ho learned that she could have two or three boyfriends! Because the thing that makes her happy is loving the other person! So why is she stuck with this dude? I theorized that the reason is, he's the one of her potential boyfriends who is as traumatized as she is. Ugh. Bleh.

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I never hoped that FL would end up with SML, SML is too broken for that and I always felt his relationship with Hye-ri was inappropriate because Hye-ri seemed too much like a child. I was also bothered by his extreme dependence on Hye-ri, it didn't seem healthy. And his declaration that he doesn't care whether FL is Eun-ho or Hye-ri and that he would follow her into the forest emphasises this once again. He doesn't know Eun-ho and Eun-ho is not Hye-ri, yet he desperately seeks her closeness. So I was happy to see their relationship come to an end. The poor boy desperately needs therapy and I hope that in the end he will be happy.

That doesn't mean that the relationship with ML is healthier, at least not at the moment, but maybe it will change later. That's why it wasn't understandable why they got back together. ML may not be the monster that some viewers on Reddit make him out to be, but he has many flaws, some of which have led to FL being where she is now. He also needs to urgently work on himself and change his behaviour pattern.

To be honest, I don't really understand the makers and their intentions. On the one hand, it's shown several times how complicated the relationship between FL and ML is, with all its problems and communication errors, and then a short time later we see a super romantic scene of the two of them getting back together. It's perfectly okay to show what's wrong between a couple, but then the tenor should actually be different later on.

The best thing for FL right now would probably be if she's not in a relationship and is fully focussed on getting better. I think Hye-yeon could be a great friend to support her.

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For a show so cinematic and complex, that closing scene of the ML running thru the streets after his emotional "breakthrough" into the arms of FL was a bit cringey. At least it wasn't to catch her leaving at the airport. Ha! I'm heartless.

Also, I don't get his breakthrough. He always loved her. And she always told him how much she loved and needed him (unhealthily so). What clicked with him now? Is it the knowledge that she became so sick without him? Is he just adding to his collection of dependent creatures?

Also, the grannies are still around, sick as ever. They seem to know about her but does she know about them now? How does he think she'll handle them? Or was it the healthy FL he didn't want to foist that on, but it's fine for the sick one? I'm skimming through the show. I might have missed something.

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I just finished episode 10 and boy was that painful. But, I cannot disagree more with the comments. What has been drum rolled for the last two weeks finally paid off in the most kdrama way possible. And, it was obvious what was happening and I am mostly satisfied with Eun-ho's arc. It turns out that Eun-ho tried to run away from the life that was making her miserable, which is a physical parallel with her psychological disorder.

Her job sucks. Apparently, Jae-yong is not supposed to be a fairy godmother type person but an example of why her job sucks. He basically bumbles his way into stardom while she tries so hard and always fails.

Seeing her ex at her work sucks. She is really in love with this guy and he doesn't even give her the courtesy of giving her space and avoiding her.

So, she runs away into a fantasy of her little sister. But, instead of living a happy life as a broken mirror, she realizes in a cabin in the woods that she is a broken mirror and chooses (or is forced to choose) to live her truth: she was happy once. She was happy when she was with Hyun-oh. So, even if it sucks being reminded of the relationship she used to have, she has to own it.

It seems many commenters would rather she run away from her problems into the easy solution that is Joo-yeon. But, that is actually co-dependent. Her happiness would be based on her living a lie that he would enable her to create. This is different from the real but unhappy life with Hyun-oh. Also, writers love for their characters to choose the hard way with extra suffering.

What sucks about this resolution. Hyun-oh hurts her very deeply to the point where I don't know if realistically he can recover. And, even if he could recover, it shows that Eun-ho put their relationship on an unrealistic pedestal, which is not healthy.

Hyun-oh never takes responsibility for his actions or his words. From his 6 month break to constantly running away from her, which I am sure will be explained next week, he is constantly doing stuff to hurt her. He gives her expectations based on his actions and then fails to live up to those expectations. He is not an anti-social psychopath. But, this part of their past is never resolved before they get back together.

(As a side note, I find the comments that praise the secondary female characters but hate on Hyun-oh inconsistent. They are the same. Whether it is philandering with a person in a relationship or going after a guy when you are already in a relationship, it is the same as Hyun-oh because neither of them are taking responsibility for their actions.)

Hyun-oh still doesn't like himself and keeps running away from his own poor self-image. This is still unresolved. But, they still get back together. It seems like a bit of cart before the horse.

Ji-on really loves Eun-ho. It is weird to fall in love with your brother's ex. Where is the bro code? But, at the very least, if some guy hurt the...

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After the slow recent episodes, Ep10 made it about dramatic moments and twists. But it's also a strange sensation that the drama could end at this episode. Now, I wonder what will it be about. I expect, or hope, there will be a clarification about why he could never tell her about the grandmas.

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My least favorite trope in kdramas is that love heals all trauma. And now this show even dares to say that spending a month in a cabin, alone, with no provisions is all the shock therapy you need, then just follow it up by "true love" and you are healed!. What a dangerous message!.

Thus show will redeem itself to me if nobody ends up with anybody. Everyone here needs to be in therapy first and learn to love themselves before entering or continuing a co-dependent relationship. FL needs to love herself first!.

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Late on commenting, but Apple doesn't support my mini iPad any longer and it is as s-l-o-w as molasses or just plain doesn't work. So, on my laptop . . .
After ep 10, my brother said, "Eun-ho has resolved who she is, who she loves, and who she can't be with as Hye-ri and has let him (Ju-yeon) go. So basically the K-drama is over." And I said, "Nooooo, because there are two more episodes and some things are not resolved. I don't think it will be a predictable ending." He said, "We'll see."
So, I do not think Hye-ri will show up, mainly because actress Shin Hae-sun plays both in the Asianwiki list of characters. I also think Eun-ho will end up in the Grandma Loan Shark family, even though Hyun-oh said no woman would accept his family situation. 99.99% might not, but Eun-ho would - she would have been accepting and would have been accepted all along, but the situation of introducing her to his unusual family was something Hyun-oh avoided to the point of breaking up with Eun-ho after 8 years together. That was SO unfortunate and the root of much of their unresolved issues. The fact that Eun-ho has no family means she wouldn't have to deal with the hurdle of Hyun-oh's family situation. Hyun-oh didn't think of that? And so he kept his unusual family from her all those years for nothing . . .
I hope Eun-ho gets to meet Grandma Loan Shark et al - it would have saved everyone so much grief if they had met while Eun-ho dated Hyun-oh.

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28. October ... Shouldn't ep. 11 of Dear Hye-ri be up now? Does anyone know anything?

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