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Dear Hyeri: Episodes 7-8 (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for ENA’s Dear Hyeri where offbeat heroine Shin Hye-sun lives two very different lives.

This is your place to chat about the drama as you watch.


Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 

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Thank you show for giving us plenty Kang hoon!
Awwww he was so happy playing dodge ball and then they had to break his (and our) heart.
I felt so bad for him when he wanted to know if Hyeri will come back.
Also, is he the first person she can opened up about her health?
The non linear narration confuses me at times. The scene we saw last week actually happens later. so it’s not an epilogue but preview.

I kinda miss Hyeri. the main leads are kinda boring. It’s the second leads and Hyeri that make me perk up. I don’t care about the happenings in the media company.

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I am glad I am not alone in being confused! I am also starting not to care anymore.

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It's the two main leads that are very, very interesting to me. They both had a very difficult childhood and very unconventional families, so whatever informed them of "family happiness" must have been truly fvked up. It's clear they never knew or never been taught how to communicate their feelings, and the fear of abonnement often propelled them to suppress their voices of dissatisfactions. Often, people with difficult childhood also don't even KNOW how to communicate their feelings properly. I find it convincing more and more, especially in light of Hyun-oh child-like crying fit at loosing his mother's necklace (he couldn't even COMMUNICATE to her properly why he was searching for a necklace for hours!) and then suddenly shoving away his feelings, grabbing at the Eun-ho's saving straw of making a duplicate necklace and just...going out to grab some food.

They are older now, and you could tell their brains begin to process their reasoning and emotions a bit differently. They listen to people now. They re-evaluate their memories in entirely different light and in context of what's happening to them at present.

What struck me as absolutely insane is this: how could people who are supposedly masters at COMMUNICATING the news to audience as announcers be so bad at communicating to each other? How their suppressed trauma finds all the insidious ways to still get communicated and manifested such as mental disorder and professional sacrifice.

I find this couple fascinating and nothing like I've seen in a while in k-drama-world whereas as second lead's infatuation is a dime a boring dozen.

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You nailed about his crying. Also, the way she bluffed her way through comforting him--remember, she doesn't have a mother at home either--it explained so much. She offered, essentially, to stand in for his mom. This is why he couldn't let go of her.

The more sympathetic his character gets, though, the less I think they should find happiness with each other. I can see that's the direction we're going, but it really does not make sense.

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"the less I think they should find happiness with each other"

Even though I loved seeing them together, their riffing off each other, their cuddles and their delightful interactions, I agree they shouldn't be together. He is a source of her distress, that's one. Second, he's a lot like her, and sometimes people with similar painful experiences are not a very good match.

But, oh well. Let's bet a bean that there's going to be a time jump for them all healed-up on their own and then meeting together like nothing ever happened. I can't imagine the remaining four episodes is enough to convince us this couple should be together... but we shall see. I'm sticking to the bitter end!

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I really hope they don't end up together... But they probably will.

When they are together (now, in present time, not flashbacks) he doesn't pay attention when she is speaking, he is too self-centered, or distracted... He likes to take care of her, cooking, cleaning... but nothing more. A relationship can't be based only on that.

If he talks to her is just to tell her "don't eat too much, you'll get fat".
As I said last week, I think he is a good person but not a good boyfriend/husband.

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I don't think any of them are boring, - also not the insisting desperate beauty, what'shername, SFL in my Demon ... I love the actress, am super annoyed but also thrilled about her character here.

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I watched only episode 7, so this is a comment on that. I found it very difficult not to pause the action to avoid the emotional pain and awkwardness. Especially when Eun-ho was impersonating Hyeri without actually knowing anything about her relationship with Kang Joo-yeon. He obviously knew when she was Eun-ho and when she was Hyeri. It was remarkable acting from both of them but also really terrible to watch. All I could think was, she wishes her sister was really alive and he thinks her sister is really alive.

As far as the whole Eun-ho and Hyun-oh thing--they just shoved the craziness into the background. Is he really going to marry someone else after all that? Amazing. I hope I have time to watch the next episode when it streams here and don't have to wait. That really seemed like a cliffhanger.

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I also only watched episode 7. I think the "marriage cliffhanger" is what's going to propel (hopefully) the discussion about why Hyun-ho refuses to marry. I don't think he's actually marrying someone (good ol' misunderstanding), but this was done by the writer to explore this issue more in depth. I really, really like this writer so far. The writer teases us with all these questions and mysteries but slowly over the course of the series explores the motivation behind everyone's actions more in depth.

The scene between Kang Hood and Eun-ho was heartbreaking and given her mental illness, even more so. However, I couldn't help by feel anger at Eun-ho for her actions. She deliberately wrote the note (at the beginning of the episode) trying to find why Hyeri is happy. Couldn't she take a pause to realize that her actions might affect people around her? So far, our heroine is a bit thoughtless when it comes to her life. We see in flashbacks that it's her who refuses to see what's plain about many things: that Hyun-oh refuses to marry, that he's a workaholic and ambitious person with deeply personal motivation to become a famous announcer (i.e. so his missing mother could see him), that she a bit of a willing participate in the "switches" -- I mean wouldn't you freak out to do something, anything, to stop this happening??

Nothing what it seems. Hyun-oh started as a jerk and now he's slowly redeeming. Eun-ho started as a confident steadfast announcer and now she's faltering. The young announcer is a hoot and I absolutely love her, and I dare say, she's probably what Hyeri would have been if she were alive, or what Eun-ho would have been if she stopped with her lackadaisical attitude toward life. Kang Hoon unfortunately is now relegated to the SL's kdrama pitfall, that is, his entire characterization is all about his infatuation about Hye-ri. (What happened to his brother? How does it continue to affect him?)

Looking forward to episode 8, and I have so many more thoughts.

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Hyun-oh is not letting others have a say in whether he shall save them. Just like the grannies who wants to save him by demanding that he married really, really ruined something for him, so we don't know that the granny he wants to save doesn't really just NOT want to be saved.
Eun-ho is desperately trying to struggle her way out of being saved all the time, taking any feeling of worth and accomplishment out of what she is trying to do.
It's an imperative to help other people, but sometimes it is really also an imperative to stay in your own lane.

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I think Hyun-oh, and indeed most of the characters, have kind and loving motivations. But trauma distorts all of their perceptions and ideas about what to do. One thing I really like about this show is the way they reveal the distorted thinking and trauma to help you understand how people are acting. But, I want more of that backstory to be Eun-oh's.

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They are probably leaving space for us to get OG Hye-ri's backstory. Maybe? And she has been keeping out of her sister's life because she was told she was a bother and took it a bit to seriously. (Just an idea).

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"I think Hyun-oh, and indeed most of the characters, have kind and loving motivations. But trauma distorts all of their perceptions and ideas about what to do."

So well-said. Stress, trauma, PTSD, etc often "close" your options and the sufferers develop the tunnel fear-based viewpoints and thinking. While relaxed happy and satisfied people think in terms of options and are "open" to new experiences and experimentation with the situations -- let's try this, let's discuss it, let's figure it out instead of let's assume or let's freeze. Tons of psychology behind it, I imagine. I do too crave Eun-ho's background story to understand better why she is the way she is. Considering that out of all of the characters in the show, she has the most disabling mental disorder. I keep thinking of that amazing haunting scene at the forest, where her guilt and deathly aura all came alive. I want more of such scenes, not just because they are insanely beautiful but also because we become privy to her thought process and emotions.

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Was I the only one thinking what are the meds for as they were not working before? The fact Hyeri can not be summoned like a genie makes way more sense if they are selling her having a full blown disorder but it is interesting that she changed her routines and Hyeri disappeared even though she wanted to experience her life. I thought she appeared briefly before the hand injury but then disappeared again. I loved the dodgeball game when it went from dying early to the fight to the death in order to win but I don't like the human shield element as it must hurt especially if he can actually play well.

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Isn't it curious that this PD who's pretty tight with the editing of the scenes scenes chose to show her TWICE in one episode taking these pills? Doesn't she come off as a bit of a willing participant in her switches?

I'm just trying to figure out the logical behavior of someone who found out they have memory losses or, worse, some form of DID. If it were me, I'd be surrounding myself with friends and family, making sure I don't do anything stupid, and doing everything possible to get even further help. But I know of people with extreme anxiety disorder who isolate themselves even further from anyone.

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She has no family. I'm not sure why she has no friends! Maybe she put all her eggs in the boyfriend basket in her 20s?

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She is presented as a sort of push-off and being constantly bullied at work at how she's a "bad" announcer. Again as I mentioned in my extensive comment, I don't think the writer presented a convincing case of her being THAT bad at her job or being a witch, whom everyone dislikes at work. But I get people like that. Anti-social crusaders. They are actually funny people once you get to know them.

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Absolutely, she is treated very badly at work. It doesn't make sense to me either. It's just--work isn't the only place to make friends. She must have had friends in college if she was insisting that her sister needed some. Though maybe she wasn't dissociating as much then?

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This is why I wish this was a 16 episode series. Sometimes I feel like we are cutting off entire chunks of the story, while other times I feel like the story is taking is long sweet time to unfold. The pacing is now more settled but I wish we dig dipper into her background. I feel like we spent more time on the ML's background than hers. Arguably, this is not just a love story, it's also a story about her fulfillment as a person, in all aspects, be it personal or professional. One beanie mentioned that the title of the series is similar to My Identity, pointing to that. 16 episodes would be so-so much better, imho, to tell a story of Eun-ho, explore more on why is she so "bad", why she is the way she is, how she ended up in such a miserable situation. A painful break-up might have triggered it but I would be fascinated to see a process of her becoming the way she is before the trigger happened.

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@bomibeans I don't know where to find out how many episodes are planned! Is it 10 or 12? How can there be time for all these folks to achieve insight into their pasts and healing? Yeah. I dunno. It does feel like what I love about k-dramas is this tendency to invest thin or shoddy premises with a high level of acting, direction, and/or cinematography. This is how they hooked me in the first place!

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Oh I forgot that it's not a 16 ep. drama - I was even thinking: "They have SO much stuff to tell us in the last half of this show!"
But they'll have to wrap it up quickly 😮.

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Yeah. This confuses me too. In the backstory Eun Ho is the one who pushes Hyeri to go out and make friends. So I assumed she was a little bit more outgoing than Hyeri. Also her first meet with Hyun Oh made her seem talkative and not closed off. Why doesn’t she know anyone from school or college or neighbors. Sometimes I wonder if Eun Ho is the one who died. lol. I know it doesn’t seem logical based on what we saw but her personality seems that way.

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Yes! Though I always feel like I'm creating all kinds of exciting scenarios for the inner life of the main character that the writers aren't!

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I have thought too that Hye-ri may be the one who is trying to be her sister, too.
But then as I've said, I believe Hye-ri was at the company sports event.
We don't know for sure that one of the sisters is dead, remember that.
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Eun-ho back in the day may have had a hard time finding friends because her handicapped little sister was at her heels all the time. It could be like that.
And when her sister disappears, she started hating herself, too, with extreme rejection sensitivity, and those constant questions "Am I not good? I am good, right? Do you love me more than food? etc. "

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@ceciliedk I think you are right that Hyeri was the person at the sports event.

I do not feel 100% sure that the sister had any disability. The sister in the news story that triggered her panic attack did. But let's say Hyeri was a real sister who experienced some of the same bad things that Eun-ho did, and reacted by feeling shy. We saw them at their parents' funeral, and she was telling her sister she would be with her. I wonder whether that moment was a reason that the sister was clingy?

Unless there was no sister. What if there was no sister? That could account for the inconsistency of her memories. The "older sister" was one personality and the younger sister was another one? Oh, you know they aren't going to go that sophisticated.

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@toomuchtv I have thought about the idea that there is really only one "sister", especially when we think of the photo with the balloon, like there is really only one person.
I just think with the details we have since heard, that there actually was a sister, that one sister rejected the other one ... not totally , but like sisters do "Go get your own friends, get off my back, you're embarrassing me" ... stuff like that ... and that the rejected sister went on that trip and stayed away, whether she got lost and/or had amnesia (as so often happens at largely any occasion 😉 ) or just decided to stay away because her sister deserved better than having an awkward person like her at her heels.
And I don't know how handicapped she is, but at least in the version we have seen in her non-job at the parking lot, she seems to be a little simple. And the way she bows and hides behind her hair could be trauma, of course, but in any case, I think Eun ho is replaying her perception of her sister ... which will fit perfectly with the way that woman at the sports event acted.
I am not completely sure of any of these things, but somewhere between 50 and 95% sure. If that woman at the sports event is not Hye-ri, it is strange that they put that little encounter into the episode, amirite?

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@toomuchtv and @ceciliedk

I had so many interesting theories about the ways all these existing or non-existing personalities might go (no sisters, younger-older versions of FL in two different timelines, Eun-ho is the "other personality and Hye-ri is the "main" personality, etc, etc.). But I agree that they are not going to go take that "sophisticated" approach. I can't imagine they are going to explore all this in 4 episodes, unless they use cop-out cliffhangers leading to nothing (case in point, non-existent marriage.) This story might be simpler than what we originally thought.

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I think you should think of this as a fairy tale mental illness so as not to mix it up with how we look at people who have a real life mental disorder.

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One of the beanies (was it you?) said in an earlier post they should have given it a random name then we wouldn’t be comparing the ridiculous portrayal to the real condition.

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I think it was me.

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Yes, actually, I suggested naming the illness it after this fairy tale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-Bear-King-Valemon

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100% agree. While its good that some of these K Drama's are bringing awareness to certain mental health issues, the benefit may be ruined if it is an unrealistic depiction of the illness and treatment. I still think of all the drinking they did in Doctor Slump while being treated for depression and PTSD!!!

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Episode 7:

Kang Hoon was so good in this episode.
The scene of the conversation between Eun Ho and Ju Yeon was the highlight of the episode imo.
It was easy to empathize with them. I'm sad for Ju Yeon, he seems desperate, as if Hyeri was the only source of happiness in his life.
He easily believed all that Eun Ho told him because he desperately needs Hyeri back.
I don't see a way for a happy ending for him.

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My heart is already breaking for Ju Yeon and I know it’s going to be a wreck when this show ends.

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It was a strong scene, touching moment thanks to background music. Both characters kinda lost and desesperate. Heartbreaking scene so. As you said, we could root for any of them. Again some details from the director, like the yellow door opened in the last shot behind Eun-Ho. I can't make sens of it now, but it's not here by chance.

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A mishmash of thoughts:
I am so confused right now. Hyun oh is getting married??!?
The love stories are sweet and then all heartbreaking.
The scene where Hyeri and Ju yeon talked was beautifully executed. I wish they could talk to each other about the losses they have both suffered but I know it is too soon, but it would help! The fact that Eun ho could tell Ju yeon about her (DID - we will save the lecture on how most of us feel about the misuse of this diagnosis in the show) was so vulnerable and significant
The flashback to what Hyun oh went through to become a newscaster and how much being one meant to him was important (and ...yes...heartbreaking- apparently my favorite word today, haha) to put into context how much he really does love Eun ho and for her to feel her desperation for him to get that role back. A special place in hell is being reserved for the awful Press Director!
Felt terrible for Ju yeon when Eun ho was pretending to be Hye ri, but also felt her desperate need to feel happiness and try to understand Hyeri's life
Loved the dodgeball scene and how it brought joy to many of the characters. Really enjoying the second leads as well!

Complete chaos of a comment, thanks for letting me share.

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I almost ALWAYS do a check and see what the cast and crew have done prior. I like to see who I recognize and from where. I did not do my due diligence this time, I only now realize that this director did 25/21 and I really really really did not like the ending of that show that I thought was so great until the end.....now I am a bit nervous...

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Ending or any story element comes from writer, not director. Director also did "Lies hidden in my garden", with dramatic points but I think ends enough well.

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I loved Lies Hidden in my Garden.

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Last scene about "married" was too confusing and I make no sen s of that. I even doubt it could be a flashback. It's how it's messy.

I recap an important point that slipped my mind about the café scene and why Ju-Hyeon doesn't care about Eun-Ho. For now, he thinks she's in a relationship with another man. So, his only way out is Hiery, without Eun-Ho. Sad and harsh for Eun-Ho. But when we watch back, she knew Hyeri was close to Ju-Hyeon, she even made a search on internet about him. But chose to say him nothing. Ran away in the scene when she end in bathroom with panic fit.
Anything we get here is quite good writing, with the feeling it can be only like that, any cruel or weird decision characters take.

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Hot mess is what comes to mind as I watch this drama. I keep watching, albeit with many 10 second advances because I love Hyeri and Ju-Jeon (Kang Hoon) together. I detest the male lead character.

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Episode 8.

Wow, there are a lot of things to comment.
I don't even know where to start.

Apart from the plot I must say I'm mesmerized by the beauty (visuals and music) of this drama, as in Atypical Family, When the weather is fine (same writer, btw), The Matchmakers, Someday or One day and some other shows.

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Honestly the only thing I care about in this drama is that hyeri/ Eun-Ho ends up with Ju yeon as a merged personality. If not this drama will just be too sad and wrong. I get that Hyun oh's past is sad and he has sacrificed a lot for Eun ho even without her knowledge but he has hurt her more irrespective of if he meant it or not. It will be really sad and pathetic if the writers makes them end up together when there is a perfectly better scenario with Ju yeon a better alternative with their past traumas, his personality and EQ when it comes to romance

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" It will be really sad and pathetic if the writers makes them end up together"

I don't think so. Of course there's going to be a time jump, when Eun-ho is all healed but I see how the writer convincingly sets up both leads to end up together. But the better (and healthier) scenario would be of course to end up with neither of the guys and just find the happiness on her own.

As a side note, this is not a just a show of two people trying to find their way back together. It's also a show about how Eun-ho finds her own professional satisfaction. It was the marriage news that broke her mental camel's back. It was a series of mistakes and a failure at achieving success as an announcer.

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I mean, yes, but I don't think you can assume Ju yeon is going to be better. Hyun oh's trauma was: mother fled, father exploited him, father died in a fire, kindly Granny Loan Shark adopted him by purchasing him (!) because of debt bondage.

Ju-yeon already told us that his brother who died was more like a father because he didn't have one. At the start of the show, his hoobae tried to flirt with him and he said his wish was for the world to end. His mom has some kind of dementia or mental illness and keeps calling him up to tell him she wishes the brother had lived instead of him.

I don't know, I'm still not sure why Eun-ho has DID and none of these other folks do. (I was initially thinking that Ju Yeon was going to turn out to be one of Eun-ho's personalities since his trauma is so similar to hers.)

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👋🏾Welcome to the DB comments and what a great drama to jump in on.

I am intrigued to see how they end this in terms of the relationships because there are some dramas where the love story is only part of the story so we don't end seeing the main leads together. In some dramas there is a hint they are or will be together in the future but in others they stay broken up.

K-dramas usually stress me with the second male lead in these kinds of dramas because they see and connect with the female lead. The male lead’s are often oblivious to the female lead’s charms and often treats them in an unnecessarily cruel way. So I often get taken down by second lead syndrome because at the end of the drama I just don’t think the male lead has changed enough to deserve to be forgiven for their previous behaviour.

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I hope she ends op with Ju yeon, too. And that Hyun Oh finds out how to live with someone without taking over every aspect of their life.

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Half way through ep 8 the drama has finally lost me:

Lovely Kang-hoon is one of the first to learn about the split personality and only wants to wait until the one personality he likes reappears. I call that selfish.

Eun-ho blanking out and muttering during her broadcast, because she heard that ML is getting married. I call that unprofessional. The muttering unfortunately continues.

ML has been unrelatable from the very beginning. The marriage rumours are the nail in the coffin.

Main granny is giving in to breast cancer which is, compared to many cancers, treatable with good success. She is also not young which means the cancer might also be growing more slowly. This does not make medical sense ( I admit not being an expert in this field).

This story and any of the characters do not appeal to me anymore. I hope for better luck with these actors in future.

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Don't call the SML character "selfish." It's not like he has a robust understanding of DID. I mean, I don't think the writers do either! In any case his reaction doesn't come from a place of understanding.

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Well, he understands that it is a mental disorder and his first reaction is how it will affect him, he worries that he will not see Hyeri again, not how it affects her and how difficult it must have been for her to admit to and live with a mental disorder.

You are right, the DID is just used as a plot device by the writer, there is no deeper insight into this.

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Even though I was upset he didn’t reach out to Eun Ho (I wanted Eun Ho to get to know Ji Yeon and vice versa) I gave him a slight pass because expecting empathy from someone who needs help themselves is a bit much. At this point none of the 3 main leads can offer anything to each other and they are all entangled now.

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Right! They are so messy. Also their support people don't get anything--Hyeri's coworker friend from the parking lot, Ji Yeon's adorable but ditzy hoobae with a crush, Eun-ho's sunbae, and of course the big family who love damaged Hyun-oh--they want to be helpful to the three but none of them has a clue about how bad things are.

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Well, you know, mental breakdown is just unprofessional.

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No, the problem is that she can barely hold herself together, but still goes on to read the news which are live streamed. She has been in this job for 14 years and knows how little room for errors there is in a live stream. It will (and does) backfire on her, her colleague and the editors who did not spot that she was not well enough.

Again, this is mainly used as a plot device to add angst to her professional life.

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"I call that unprofessional"

Forgetting to mute her mic and being late for radio sow should automatically be judged "unprofessional" and cancel 14(14!) years of work? I don't get why she's bad at her job, and apart from these 2 innocent mistakes and everyone telling us she's a "bad" announcer, I fail to see why that is the case.

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It does not cancel 14 years of work, but she is not concentrating on her work and keeps on muttering to herself in front of the TV camera.

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Ep 8: I don't understand this show anymore. I think Eun Ho is depressed which makes a lot more sense than DID at this point.
I still don't care for the ML and it makes no sense why he never spoke about his situation with her. Let her make that choice. This whole angst doesn't make sense for me.

Also, Ju Yeon - Do you really want a woman to be sick so you can meet her alt personality. I understood his heart break before as it was a shock for him, but now he has had enough time to process everything and I hoped he would reach out to her and talk to her. Or do something else.

The show is beautifully shot but at this point I don't know who to root for. the 2FL is probably the one.

And what was the point of this random news reader who suddenly got everything right after being goofy for 3 episodes? Does he add anything to the plot?

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"I think Eun Ho is depressed which makes a lot more sense than DID at this point" Oh absolutely she is. That "hate myself" thought process is a huge giveaway. Often, mental disorders co-exist.

"This whole angst doesn't make sense for me." In the context of their difficult childhood and personalities, it makes sense to me. I enjoy their angst. They re-evaluate their past decisions and choices, and it's presented convincingly through flashbacks and their actions. I like how this show poses to linger on their unhappiness and I'm curious how they find their way out of it.

As for Ju yeon, you could tell his discussion with Hye-eon was crucial in convincing him to continue pursuing relationship with Hye-ri. He was heart-broken, and he was clearly of the thought that he has only "one heart" for one woman. Hye-yeon, in her own cheeky way, convinces him that a more modern approach of "copy-and-paste" hearts is more realistic, and though she's somewhat right, unfortunately for Ju-yeon, this is not a correct approach for this guy. He's an inexperienced, one-woman man, and I'm not sure how Hye-eon approach is going to benefit him.

"what was the point of this random news reader who suddenly got everything right after being goofy for 3 episodes" Oh yeah! He's yet to paly his role. Probably going to be something explosive that propels both leads' professional lives. We shall see!

And yes! Give me more of uncertainty and doubts in my shows (without the whiplash of course)! I don't know who to root for either. How refreshing it is in kdrama with predictable leads and one-dimensional situations.

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I was quite scared when she wrote that note tbh. I was scared the show was going super dark. And I am Really worried for her and she has absolutely no one around her who is in a position to Help.
She is literally pinning her hopes on finding happiness and right now Hyun Ho is her only hope. Which makes it worse.
That’s why I desperately wanted JH to reach out to Eun Ho so she can atleast talk to someone in some capacity. And he needs that too.

I don’t know know where they are going with the two hearts. Are they planning to give her two ML’s and a new twist to polyamory 😇

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In a way she chose death. It is a metaphorical death, but nonetheless a death of Eun-ho's personality, and allowing Hye-ri to be a dominant person now. All of the events in episode 7 and 8, one by one, made everything worse for our heroine, brining to life the painful memories and acute professional dissatisfaction, resulting in a breakdown and this metaphoric suicide.

I keep thinking to that dialogue she had in the beginning episodes with Hyun-oh. She said, "But what is so bad about being mediocre??" I love that! I loved how she said that with the defiance and in-your-face confidence. I hoped she continue to understand that it's not the "position" or "state" of her professional and personal life, from which she can derive that confidence and esteem. It's just HER, just by being herself, with all her failures and past experiences and memories is ENOUGH to be confident and self-assured and have a satisfactory self-esteem. I hoped she finds a place where her self-esteem is derived not just from societal standards of being a star anchor and a married woman. That it CAN be derived from being who she is, with all her own quirks and with all her own flaws and character strengths. I hope she learns this lesson by the end of the series.

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Oh my, I really felt for Eun-ho in these two episodes. I usually love romances and workplace dramas, but in a rarity, I just want her to get out of Dodge and into Sanityville. But looking at the preview, that's not where we're headed.

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I think we are headed into sunnier but even crazier place. I wonder how the writer will make Hye-ri unappealing to continue as a dominant person. Hye-ri is so happy and doesn't need much to be happy, and in fact, I wish I had a bit of hye-ri in me, just to be happy because you're alive and breathing and enjoying your humble work. Hopefully there's going to be some commentary on "fantasy" not survivable in real life. Maybe there's a "golden middle" and a balance where Hye-ri and Eun-ho can agree on: one is too happy and another is too unhappy and that that's life, to be able to survive the unhappy and enjoy the happy, without getting stuck too much on either side. Balance is a key in life, as they say.

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Interesting. That would be similar to the moral of the Inside Out movie.

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What a fantastic point! My friends are gushing about Inside Out, and I'm still here, haven't watched it yet. It is the time, finally.

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The first one is a beautiful movie. Very touching.
The sequel's plot is similar but it's not so great overall.

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Ep 7-8. The things I like about this show:

- My expectations about the main leads keeps upended and picks my interest. I genuinely looking forward to another episode to see how this story is going to end up. In episode 7, Hyun-oh motivations were explored more in depth (he wants to succeed because he wants his runaway mother to see him) and how dedicated he was to his work. I truly sympathized with him. But then in episode 8, I had so much empathy for Eun-ho. How humiliating it must have been to tell everyone that the reason they broke up was that he doesn't want to get married, and NOW there's a "talk" of him getting married. I see how through a series of mistakes, the "arc" of Eun-ho was complete, and now it's Hye ri personality to take over. I'm curious to see how the writer ends the "arc" of Hye ri: what could possible make this person to GO BACK to being Eun-ho?? As a side note, this "hate myself" discourse is a very acute sign that the person is mentally really, really, like really unwell. This is when suicides happens, and I could imagine that Eun-ho chose her own metaphorical death and "re-incarnate" as someone completely alien.

-I love flashbacks. They really flash out the characters and deepen the conflict. In her stupor, Eun-ho goes back to them to re-evaluate Hyun-oh in an entirely different light, and you could see the same process happening on Hyun-oh side, whereas he's walking around like a trapped animal rethinking his past decisions, especially in light of his Main Grandma providing him with important long-term focus and his "bride-to-be" explaining that some people do like to be a part of a bustling family even if it means changing adult diapers. (Again, this man has made a lot of assumptions.) I loved the scenes with crying Eun-ho loosing the necklace (so adorable!) and them cuddling when he came tired from his work, and the mixed-up ironed and un-ironed shirts. I really dig their relationship, and how truly supportive and loving they were, even despite of that no-marriage hammer hanging over their heads.

-I love how the writer injects humor here and there. You could tell the break-up was super heavy mentally on both of them, especially Eun-ho. Without humor, this would have been such a hard watch. We'd be all screaming, just move on, y'all, but no, it keeps me invested and laughing occasionally at all the "incidents reports" and Eun-ho's Wednesday-like vibes scaring the bejeesus out of her co-workers. Oh, and let's not forget Hye-eon. Her speech about "copy-and-paste" hearts and friends with benefits was hilarious and quite unusual in kdrama. I absolutely adore her!

-I like how the straw that broke Eun-ho's camel wasn't the news of non-existent marriage but her failure to realize herself as a professional. Her diary entry was really about how she failed at happiness, in all aspects of it, including professional satisfaction, and my heart went out for her. I still think the writer...

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...the writer didn't make a strong case of Eun-ho being such a bad announcer. Overall she was presented as a hard worker, who takes any chance to do even the worst jobs to promote herself and generally speaking looks appealing and professional in front of the camera. I don't know much about the news room but as a viewer all I see are innocent mistakes (forgetting to mute her mic and being late for a radio show) that shouldn't automatically cancel the 14 years of hard work. The Press President is a hateful one-dimensional character and I wish we didn't have him at all.

- The cinematography is stellar. There are frames (like a lone bicycle against the yellow parking box) that I pose and just admire. The choice of lens and lighting, and the unusual tracking angles are fantastic.

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Aha! Yes! Eun-ho is not a bad announcer. But the two mistakes we saw in this last episode are very bad! I think the point was that she made several egregious mistakes at a time that a higher-up was gunning for her, because she can't deal with stress without dissociating or panicking.

But in general, she seems to be a very good announcer. Her voice on the radio is wonderful! The point isn't that she's bad, it's that the Press department guy is terrible.

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I really enjoy your through and very thoughtful comments (very different than my very reactive ones!). Thank you. you say everything so well and with so much insight and empathy. I really appreciate that.

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It seems a lot of people are just waiting to see the back of Eun-Ho all the time. I love your "Wednesday-like" description. It seemed to me, too, that she was skilled, but also her air from the first episode was skilled mixed with constantly a bit too eager and obsessed in a way that made others embarrassed. (And maybe she is obsessed because she caught the idea from Hyeon-Oh and hopes her sister is out there and sees her.
And I only have "Jealousy Incarnate" as a reference, but being an anchor seems to be taken very, very seriously, like half gods or something.

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Oh you got cut off! I am interested.

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I am thinking literal suicide and the two men arriving just in time. I do wonder if they would actually kill off a main lead as we don’t know what time frame we are watching with the voice overs and flashbacks this could all be the events before she died. This drama is going off in very different directions to the usual K drama so who knows.

I do think they need to get to a place where they say it isn’t DID, she cosplayed her sister and then started disassociating so now she can’t remember those parts of her day. If they do the trauma work she will have access to the integrated personality as there were some flashbacks where she was light and funny and not clingy which I assume is her true self. I don't like that Hyeri presents as if she has learning needs and no cares in the world, as if that’s the only way to be happy. Eunho need’s to have access to all elements of her skill-set to get a paying job otherwise she will not be able to live.

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"Eunho need’s to have access to all elements of her skill-set to get a paying job otherwise she will not be able to live."

Good point! So often in a k-drama, the happiness is depicted as almost closely resembling inanity and daftness. But it's in this case it's Eun-ho with a charisma and a skillset that *should* be a depiction of happiness. (Although, let's not forget that she's actually very ill.)

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Udon then HyeHyeon scene was about the option for Ju-Yeon to meet EunHo. In Udon, he's ready to be kind to her (but mostly so she let Hyeri appears). Then speech of HyeHyeon could convince him to try to meet EunHo more deeply.

BUT Anyway: No one did anything in this episode.
- Ju-Hyeon had plenty of time to meet EunHo.
- HyeonO had time to give the explanation he couldn't because EunHo was too angry to listen first time.

Ok, EunHo descent to hell was well made and main quality of the episode, but the episode was a slow one, in the sens of "slow episodes I don't like", not "slow but exciting episodes".

Because of too many fillers, people looking sadly into space while flashbacking, and not active characters. I can just understand it was not the right moment for the writer, so it has to wait until cliffhanger and next episode.

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"EunHo descent to hell was well made and main quality of the episode, but the episode was a slow one, in the sens of "slow episodes I don't like", not "slow but exciting episodes"

I didn't see it that way. I think the writer made a convincing case of why she needed to metaphorically commit a suicide of Eun-ho and become Hye-ri. These things need to be built up because otherwise as viewers we'd be scratching our collective heads with like, "Is that the ONLY thing why she decided to resort to such desperate measures??" I felt that. So many times in k-drama, characters act in all sorts of histrionic and unrealistic ways just because the writer wants them. We, as viewers, identify better with characters when we are presented with a convincing case for the motivation behind their desperate actions. We then get invested and want them to pull through. Characters who were not given enough time to develop their motivations or had flimsy motivations are boring and hard to identify with, and as such, entirely predictable. I'm amazed that sometimes writers write boring characters and expect us to "like" them and devote our limited time to them just because the premise of the show is awesome or because they tapped star-power actors or because PD and cinematography is stellar. Nope, my shows still need to be entertaining, not just polished, sorry.

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Episode 8 showed us more about Jung Hyun-oh. He presents a smooth, polished and suave face, but he is still a deeply injured person who doesn't believe he can be loved. The flashback to when Eun-ho and Hyun-oh first met was telling. Also his surprise that one of the grannies' young relatives wanted to marry him. He just seems to be the least emotionally intelligent person in the story. Though all of them are damaged by trauma.

It really does not make sense that Eun-ho has DID but only two personalities, and the whole disorder emerged suddenly in her 30s. We still have no idea what the two sisters lived through with their parents. I would really like the focus to be on solving the mystery of Eun-ho, not on making Hyun-oh sympathetic. The boyfriends are cute but the title is Dear Hyeri, not Dear My Two Adorable Boyfriends.

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OMG! writing this note as I am watching. only just begun episode 8. Hyun Oh's martyrdom, is this dramas version of noble idiocy (my least favorite trope!). He never even gave Eun ho the chance to say whether she would be a partner with/to him. His protection is more of co-dependency towards the Grandmothers and Eun ho. (and that is an accurate diagnosis, i can assure you). I may be checking back in to rant later. I may have to wait until the series is complete to read comments before deciding if I can make it all the way through.

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This drama is so sad. Every character has his/her own valid feelings/trauma and they're trying their best. But in the process, they hurt people around them.

I wish the timeline was less vague... because I have difficulties to put the flashbacks in the timeline. Eun-ho's personality is so different every time, it's hard to understand her journey.

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I'd like the drama to be confused like the characters, but then I'd like the writers to have an explanation epilogue for me everytime. With a whiteboard, a timeline, a pointing stick, and all that.
(Here I'd insert the detective from Rocky Horror Picture SHow, if these comments could be giffed).

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A whiteboard! Ha ha! You crack me up.

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Lol, I am the opposite. As long as I don't feel whip-lashed (either due to editing or non-sensical time jumps), I LOVE when the writer keeps me on the edge of my seat. THIS is what makes me tune in the next episode!

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Well, they shouldn't tell me what is going to happen - they should just clear up when what happened or supposedly happened, if it's all a dream.
They'd be making, like, the note board in a clue game.

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Exactly! Thank you, Leslie!

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I like to be kept on the edge when it's a thriller. When it's drama based on character's development, I need to understand what happened to understand the character. It was my issue with the drama Lost.

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But as I said, they're not supposed to tell me anything I haven't been told - but like, make a technical sum-up: Okay, this happened somewhere here on our timeline, and X saw A holding hands with Q, ... here on the timeline, and in some altered state ... panicking, dreaming or drugged, we don't know, - B "saw" or thought they saw *this* so we are putting a "?" until further notice ...
Like that. Still on edge, but just with some timeline and names ... you know, summing up.

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Hello first time poster here.

I just wonder.. what could the meaning of the package send to Eun Ho (at the office) be?

Maybe from.. Hyeri?

Or is there another explanation?

Beautiful show nonetheless, and a bit discerning aswell.

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👋🏾Welcome to comments. It would be great if you registered as you are more likely to get responses to messages as it’s easier to read and we know you will get alerted.
You chose a great drama to join in the banter.
I was intrigued too as the desk looked like she was definitely not returning so will someone open it? Why send the package to the office? It doesn’t make sense for a delivery man to be wandering around the floor when usually the receptionist would collect the package or call the person to come down to sign for it.

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I wondered if the package was just to show that Eun-ho wasn't there anymore.
But otherwise, the package could be from OG Hye-ri.

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I think we briefly saw Hye-ri OG at the sports thingumy. I have giffed it.

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Oh wait, that's what you meant? WHOA.

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I interpreted this as Eun-ho trying to live as Hye-ri. Not the actual other personality.

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No, that's not what I meant. I mean https://dramabeans.com/activity/p/1641346/
That woman who moves like Hye-ri. And has that hair length.

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ah. The woman in orange. I see it!

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The woman wearing those orange traffic cones, yes, if that's who you meant.

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Was confused, because to me she is wearing a yellow cardigan. Banana coloured, if you will.
But to check I asked my daughter, and she said "Oh, uhm, light coral".
So on a spectrum of how we perceive colour: Yes, the woman in orange.

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Hello!

First time posting but I have been lurking and reading recaps and comments for many K-Dramas.

I noticed that Ji On does know that Eun Ho and Hyeon O dated in the past. Isn’t it weird that he would try to date his (not actually related) brother’s ex?

Anyway I am enjoying this drama. The cinematography is great. I will be waiting impatiently for the next episodes.

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"I noticed that Ji On does know that Eun Ho and Hyeon O dated in the past. Isn’t it weird that he would try to date his (not actually related) brother’s ex?"

If you check the "first impressions" of the drama (episodes 1 and 2) comments, you'll see that many beanies were asking the same question. But I don't think anyone could come with any plausible explanation, and we are still clueless. I think there was a certain level of familiarity between the two of them (I imagine they all went out for dinners and outings together), and it was known that Eun-ho and Hyun-o were irrevocably broke-up, so I guess hyun thought he might just give it a chance. Crazier things happened. As a side note, I really find the actor playing Ji On quite handsome, even more handsome than, gasp, Kang Hoon, lol

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Has a 3ML ever gotten the girl in drama-land? I don't think so, but at this point Ji-on seems the healthiest of all her suitors...except the whole quasi-brother thing, so maybe not.

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Reply1997 - but then the first brother was in all ways eeewwww and wrong and should never have mixed himself into that. Eeeewww.

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👋🏾welcome to the comments, great choice to start with this drama.

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Yes. And, it is extremely weird.

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This show is what would happen if M Night Shyamalan wrote a kdrama.

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lol. That forest does give the cornfield’s vibes for sure.

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What is the background of this new fiancé? Could she possibly be the missing Hye-ri? Is Eun-ho's memory about her past flawed? I wonder if there is something else that is going to be revealed this week. I hope they don't lean into the triangle. The ambiguous feelings and plot are way more interesting.

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