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Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

We’re sending our mother-daughter duo off this week in the quiet and understated manner I’ve come to expect from this drama – no matter how much it tries to pretend it’s brash and loud. Even if the final scene has me feeling conflicted, I know I’m going to miss these characters on my screen each week. They stayed true to themselves until the end, with a heartfelt story that felt as real as it did outrageous.

 
EPISODES 11-12

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

We begin with Eun-mi in the hospital following her stab wound last week. As expected, she recovers without a hiccup but in the process she learns just how many people truly care about her. Jin-hong cares so much he moves into the same apartment building as Eun-mi and Jin-hee and comes over every day to support Eun-mi’s recovery and let Jin-hee relax while he’s got it covered.

Things are moving along fine until Jin-hong’s snooty parents suddenly appear and try to weasel their way into his life again. This time, they want Eun-mi to marry Jin-hong (after they request a DNA test to prove Jin-hee is really his daughter) and then they want to coerce Eun-mi and Jin-hee into living how they see fit. Jin-hong is amenable to marriage but he doesn’t want Eun-mi to feel forced and leaves the decision up to her.

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

At first, Eun-mi considers marrying Jin-hong for Jin-hee’s sake. She feels that Jin-hee would benefit from having more people to love her — and Jin-hong’s parents are already considering an inheritance for Jin-hee. However, when everyone gets together for dinner, the parents start laying the pressure on thick. They throw their money in Eun-mi’s face, saying they could give Jin-hee a better education – and anyway, she should be a doctor or a professor, not a cop.

Jin-hong intervenes and tells them to stop but when they won’t, Eun-mi says she’s refusing the marriage and then excuses herself and Jin-hee from the restaurant. Afterward, Jin-hong and his sister both tell their parents they’re cutting ties with them and leave with Eun-mi and Jin-hee. The four of them ride home in the car together and it’s nice to see them all getting along.

Later, Eun-mi and Jin-hee argue about who was more hurt by the whole grandparent fiasco and Eun-mi kicks Jin-hee out of the apartment. This is perfect because with nowhere to go Jin-hee ends up with Jae-won having a few drinks and getting a (sort of) confession (at least, that’s how I read it!). He understands when she complains about her mom and says he gets it because he’s been observing her – the way she talks, smiles, runs (and this whole leadup feels like a slow burn that I can’t wait for).

It takes a little more time, but one night Jin-hee winds up at Jae-won’s house a little tipsy and asks if he likes her. He pauses briefly before saying yes and then she drops her purse on the floor and pulls him in for a kiss. Their scenes are always fraught with tension because of how much Jae-won holds back, and this scene is no exception, which makes the moment pretty heart fluttering.

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

She spends the night in his bed, but we only see the morning after where he’s making breakfast. Jin-hee is honest and ready for coupledom while Jae-won is reserved thinking about the fact that she’s supposed to return to her position at headquarters soon. He lies that last night was an accident but she tells him he’s a bad liar and it looks like she has no intention of backing down now.

Just at that moment, she gets the news that her grandmother has died – meaning Mi-jung’s mom, the woman who took in Eun-mi as a teenager and helped raise Jin-hee. She rushes out to the funeral to meet her mom and Mi-jung, where all three act as chief mourners, and Jae-won later appears with the police team to show their support for her.

We learn that Mi-jung’s extended family is upset that Eun-mi and Jin-hee are considered part of the family – and that they’re even receiving an inheritance when others are not. But the drama goes deeper into its theme about what it means to be a family, showing that it’s the people who are repeatedly there for you that matter the most. Bloodlines don’t mean much if you can’t count on each other. And further, you don’t get privileges just for being blood related. Eun-mi cries, for the first time that we’ve seen, and affirms that Mi-jung’s mother was her mother because she chose her.

Right around this time, Jin-hee starts toying with the idea of moving out and getting her own place. This makes Eun-mi squirmy and she’s totally against it. So, in lieu of that idea, Jin-hee decides she wants to go backpacking abroad for a year, and it’s important to her that she goes by herself. She’s been through a lot in the past few months – from getting demoted to meeting her father to watching her mom almost die – and she wants to process it all before it starts to fester. She promises Eun-mi they’ll live together again when she gets back.

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

Eun-mi seems to be going through a growth process herself when she tells Jin-hong, “I have to let go of Jin-hee so she can let go of me. I’m an adult and her mom.” She’s still afraid to move in with Jin-hong, but he’ll stick by her side and wait no matter what.

As a short aside, we learn that Jin-soo has not been having girl troubles all this time, but boy troubles. He’s been hiding his relationship, worried what others will think, but he’s ready to stop doing that. Eun-mi is accepting right away (I think Jin-hee already knew) and it looks like they’re little family is adopting yet another member when they sit down for a meal with Jin-soo and his beau.

Before Jin-hee leaves for her travels, Eun-mi expresses her fears. What if she dies like grandma while Jin-hee isn’t around? But then she changes tune, saying she plans to get on with her life too while Jin-hee is gone. With that, Jin-hee says goodbye to Jae-won who promises to wait for her. They walk off in a very cute scene where he lifts her backpack to see how impossibly heavy it is. And I just find his timidity and hesitation adorable.

The night before her flight, Jin-hee stays at a hotel near the airport and opens the envelopes of money she received from Mi-jung and Jin-hong for her stay abroad. In Mi-jung’s envelope there’s also a family relations certificate, listing Jin-hee and Eun-mi as granddaughter and daughter to Mi-jung’s recently deceased mom. In voiceover, Jin-hee thinks, “My grandma, who chose me. And my mom, who chose me” – and then she breaks down in sobs. At the exact same moment, in another part of the city, Eun-mi is also crying her eyes out in her now-lonesome apartment, where Jin-hong comes in to comfort her.

At the last minute, Jin-hee is at the airport ready to leave when she runs into Eun-mi, who says she’s also going to Spain. Jin-hee makes it clear she intended to go alone and Mom can’t just tag along. But Eun-mi says she has her own plans and it has nothing to do with Jin-hee. They walk their separate ways and Jin-hee tells us in voiceover that life has all kinds of unexpected tough times, but it’s all about finding the right people to run with.

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

I was prepared to love this ending and write a rave review until we get some final shots during the credits. We see Jin-hee and Eun-mi in a montage of images with various landscapes of European countries behind them as they take selfies. The screen is split in two and, at first, I wondered if we were seeing the women traveling separately in split screen. But no, they are interacting in the foreground as they take photos. So, it seems they ended up traveling together after all – which is a very different ending than the one I anticipated during the last thirty minutes.

When I thought we were approaching an ending with mom and daughter going separate ways for a while, I was ready to applaud this drama for finding a way to show growth in their relationship. In the Week 1 recap, I questioned whether or not we would see any growth because I found their dynamic all too realistic – which made the possibility of escaping their unhealthy entanglement seem farfetched.

But in the final stretch, I found it believable that Jin-hee would go off on her own and get some space. It felt like the right ending for a few reasons. First, I had hoped to see development in the relationship between Jin-hee and Jin-hong, but really, it was still too soon. Her going away would give everyone some time and space to deal with their emotional baggage and then, when she got home, they could see how they felt. Second, Jin-hee and Eun-mi separating long enough to breathe a little seems entirely reasonable at this juncture. It fit the story and it would be a way to show they had both grown.

Instead, the final credit shots tell me that neither has changed from when we met them. As realistic as that ending might be, I find it difficult to come to terms with the show’s message that we should find this heartwarming and cute. Why can’t they have lives separately and together? It’s okay to have family (chosen or otherwise) and it’s also okay (healthy even) to have an independent life. I wanted more for these women who I’ve really come to love. And I wanted more for Jin-hong and Jae-won, who will always remain at the outskirts as mother and daughter stay enmeshed.

So, rather than moving forward, we come full circle. We see our leads acting just as they did when the drama started, proving that nothing can shake them or their bond. While that’s a sweet way to spin it, it’s not what I wanted for these lovely characters who deserve to have it all, especially when we were so close to a more perfect ending.

Not Others: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

 
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A very satisfying end to the show.

Overall, even though I had issues, I enjoyed the show. It’s always nice to see flawed characters on screen who can be self aware or eventually show growth. Eun Mi was willing to make changes and let go of her daughter. It’s a big step and a step in the right direction. She even was willing to consider marriage in the hopes that her daughter would have more people in her life. Jin Hee too was more vocal with her mother and said she was not ok and verbalized her feelings. This is probably the first time she is expressing herself and making decisions for herself. Which again is a great first step. I definitely see these two find a good balance eventually.

Also, I really enjoyed the show ‘s handling of ‘family’. The last episode nailed it. I don’t even want to call Eun Mi’s family as found family. Because they were family. And the writers did well in having Eun Mi reject a family for Jin Hee just because it’s blood related. She knew it’s not the family her daughter needs. It was sweet of Jin Hee to reach out to her Gomo/aunt. That would be a family she would choose. Well done show.

Jae Won continued to be passive but thank goodness for Jin Hee. She is my favorite character and it was satisfying to see how she is headed in life. She deserves the best. And it’s wonderful that she is surrounded by people who love her.

Jin Hong was a pleasant surprise. He gained my respect as the show progressed. Jae won and Jin Hong’s silent bonding with a melona bar was perfect!

Also kudos to all the side characters. They were all fun and I enjoyed their scenes as much as the main characters. A potential love line between Dr.Park and Aunt/sister was cute.

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Ending:
I think those last pics confused people. Eun Mi went on a Spanish pilgrimage trip. So I saw it as them meeting for a week or two in Spain and Jin Hee continues her trip. I did not think Eun Mi did a year long trip with Jin Hee.

Other interpretation is that those pictures were shown together while they were in fact on their own. Meaning it’s a stitched photo of two separate pictures. It’s almost like ending the show with OTP pictures. even if one of them died.

I have no doubt in my head that Jin Hee went on a solo trip. Because otherwise this drama makes no sense. Also Eun Mi was really struggling with letting go of her daughter and she knew it was the right thing to do as an adult. So I don’t think she backtracked on that. She also saw the relationship with Jae won and knew her daughter is making new relationships.
She just needed time to let go. And joining her daughter in her first trip abroad even if it was for a Short duration was her way of being in her life yet giving her space. And I see this as a pattern going forward.

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Italy and France are also both represented in those final shots. It's not just Spain. It wasn't a solo trip for at least three countries.

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Ok. Santiago Pilgrimage has Portugal, Spain and France.
I still do not accept she did a year long trip with her daughter. 😇

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That's wishful thinking and I support it. However, Italy isn't one of those three countries.

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Let me rephrase that. All the scenes and dialogues leading upto this did not convince me that she went on that yearlong trip. It would make no sense for everything that happened before.
May be writer-nim needs to clarify this for us. Because if its other than what I read from the show, I have to go back and change my ratings.

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Look, I get it. I didn't want this to be the way it ended either. But I've gone ahead and looked further...I see sites in southern Italy all the way up to Northern France (lots in Paris and the Loire Valley). I see the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. There's even a church Budapest!!! There are many other cities that I can't recognize, but it wouldn't surprise me if a few other European countries are represented.

I don't need or mean to rain on anyone's parade, but these two spent A LOT of time in Europe together if these pictures are indeed meant to show them side by side.

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But there is no North and South America.

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I also really liked these last two episodes for all the reasons you mentioned.

I was a little disappointed when Eun-mi turned up at the airport and I think it is not possible that they travelled separately for real, but I am equally sure that Eun-mi joined for only a few weeks, surely she has to go back to work soon enough.

It looked a little as if Eun-mi 'stole' Jin-hee's idea of travelling, but she has probably never travelled herself before. Joining Jin-hee must have been very tempting - travelling to Europe with the added advantage of delaying the separation with Jin-hee, who will have enough time left for solo travel.

It is clearly not easy for either mother or daughter to cut the cord! And maybe they both deserve a holiday.

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I also think Jin Hee went solo for most of the trip - mostly because Eun-mi saw backpacking as just volunteering to suffer (I remember that comment because I also feel the same way), so I don't think she'd do it for an entire year. She's too capricious for that.

She'd definitely want to get the photo ops in front of recognizable sites though.

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The main theme was clearly the family. And when it was about that, the drama was pretty interesting.

I'm disapointed by the end. I hoped they would have understood they're family and don't need to share everything. Own space is healthy in a relationship and they needed it.

The one year trip was really sudden. She never showed any interest to travel. The Cathedral of Rouen is magic I guess.

I wasn't really interested in the love story. I don't know why but I found Park Sung-Hoon was little involved in this role. He was very self-effacing or always looked tired. Half of their scenes was the FL being drunk, even the kiss scene... I didn't like she asked him if he loved her instead to say she loved him.

I really didn't care about their investigation. I wished they focused more on Jae-won's story instead.

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I agree about Park Sung-Hoon. I've only ever seen him in "Into the Ring," and his character in that one was often similarly passive, but he definitely seemed more engaged in that role. His performance as Jae-won, in contrast, was much more low energy. I'm not sure he's entirely at fault, because as I mentioned below, the writer seemed resistant to allowing characters to grow and change. It's also true that the main focus was clearly on mother and daughter. But as you said, he often looked tired and checked out.

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This was filmed back in March, so he may have been tired from promoting The Glory. Also I feel like he might have just taken this role as a chaser from his role in The Glory.

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I really liked him in Into the Ring!

He was really good in this role and his chemistry with Nana was way better than with Soo-Young.

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And I thought it was just me? What a letdown. The story ended so quickly that it was as if the scriptwriter ran out of ink mid-sentence.
She saw a map on his bedroom wall, had an epiphany, and jetted off.

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100% completely agree with you @dramaddictally about those closing credits shots. I know I've been in the peanut gallery for this whole show, but I, too, was ready for this ending to sweeten up my own bad attitude, and have me eating my words. And, with the sweet halmeonis and Jin-hong's wonderful words and attitude about love and what it means to feel connected to another person, I was ready to be eat crow.

But no...talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!! Those last images had me seeing red. Eun-mi even said what it meant to raise kids--which is to do your job and then let them go--to Jin-hong (who agreed, even though he had literally no experience in the area...which was part of the point of the whole show :)).

Sigh. What could have been. Eun-mi led a difficult life, yes, but that's no excuse for never growing up...even if/because...oh whatever...everyone around her enables this state of affairs.

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I don't know if I've ever seen a show so deliberately and frustratingly resist meaningful character growth. I mean, it's one thing when show is just badly written and the writers don't seem to have any idea how to tell a quality story, or they appear oblivious to the problematic aspects of the story's themes or characters. But "Not Others" is clearly a well written show, and not afraid to tackle all sorts of rich and risky topics, from female sexuality to single motherhood to the limits of filial piety in the modern age. So I truly have no understanding of why such a talented writer would end up telling such a stagnant story about stagnant characters. As you said, the perfect resolution was right there! Why ignore it?

Then again, this is the same show that seemed to revel in showing us all the troubling aspects of Eun-mi's personality and their various negative effects on her loved ones and yet never bothered to give her or those around her even the smallest epiphany so the characters could grow and change, at least a little.

There's a wonderful story under the surface here which follows most of the same plot beats, but allows Jin-hee and Jin-hong one or two moments of challenging Eun-mi to stop playing games and meet their emotional needs, and then ends with mom and daughter having the relationship most of us do with our adult children: one in which we live in different spaces and have independent lives, but still enjoy a loving, healthy bond.

And I loved the kiss in ep. 11, but it should have happened earlier so Jae-won could have become just a smidge less passive and the two of them could have reunited after Jin-hee's solo trip.

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I skipped the end credits and missed all this - but I was still pretty underwhelmed with the finale

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I found the last two episodes bittersweet but not in that delicious dark chocolate way, more like two clashing tastes that do not belong together and make each other taste worse. I liked the exploration of chosen vs. biological families and the show should have explicitly done more of that earlier. Having all the families that have chosen themselves reunited, one way or another, was a sweet finish. The flip side with them turning their backs on the crappy ‘real’ families was saisfying, too, but Jin-hong’s parents were caricatures.

A year alone seemed over-ambitious when Jin-hee’s never been away before, but I was beyond infuriated that Eun-mi just could not let her daughter go when they both so obviously, desperately needed that separation - especially Jin-hee. When Eun-mi showed up at the airport dressed identically for backpacking I said “you have got to be f*ing kidding me” out loud. Now it’s Eun-mi who’s goldfish poop. It made the last part of the show feel like a fakeout - look, she’s grown! Ha ha, no, joke’s on you, viewer - she hasn’t and apparently can’t.

Jae-won retained his always-holding-back character to the end, and although I was disappointed that there was so little in the end of him with Jin-hee, that felt true. And there is finally a happy same-sex couple that’s together at the end of a drama - even if they were parachuted in for like 2 minutes. The Melona bars were the best part of the finale, and I’m going to go have one to wash away the ‘bitter’ part of bittersweet. Park Sung-hoon, sigh, bigger role next time please - but feel free to bring the police station family along with you.

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New catchphrase: "Did your love go off on a year-long trip to Europe to find herself--only to fail miserably and remain attached at the hip to her mother/daughter? Have a Melona bar!!"

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Recap didn't mention that Jin-hee had a bout of nasty back trouble, and it sure looked like she was still wearing a back brace when she was planning her trip.

I don't know about you, but back problems are not the thing to make me think about strapping on a huge heavy pack and hiking all over everywhere.

Oh, well. As long as she has her copy of Hitchhiker's Guild to Kdramaland, a towel and her Babel fish...

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It was fine. I think there was a hidden gem in there somewhere, but it got lost in Eun Mi's selfishness. I didn't hate it, but I didn't quite just like it either. It was just fine.

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Wait was that the finale? I had hoped we would see Jin Hee back after the trip and would see a hug with Jae Won at the very least. "I'll be waiting" "Ummm yeah" - thats the extent of the damn romance? And we had to watch so much of Eun Mi and Jin Hong. What a let down. Is there a season 2 maybe?

I started off this week thinking "Oh good, its all about Eun Mi. FUN". Jin Hong acting like her personal slave was especially gratifying. However, I may be wrong, but they appeared to have toned her down a little. Jin Hong's parents are toxic and Eun Mi handled them so well. And then she hid Jin Hee's panties forcing her to go somewhere she didnt want, and the frustration returned.

"Do you like me?" "Yes". The kiss. My heart. That was so adorable.

Did Jin Soo come out of the closet?

Gotta say, the finale was a little underwhelming.

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Thank you, @dramaddictally, for the weecap. I love the way the story was realistically depicted but I maybe I wanted more from Jin-hee and Jae-won's relationship. They consider themselves together and then suddenly she just decides to go on a backpacking trip. I just wanted to see more of their cuteness like what I saw with Eun-mi and Jin-hong being honest with each other.

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Having flawed character in a drama is fine; we all ARE, after all. But watching the said character for twelve hours without even realizing that flaw IS totally unacceptable.
Early on we saw Eun Mi treated those who loved her badly by being manipulative and immature. I was dissapointed the writer just brushed it off as something normal. Even the ending where she insisted on having a trip just like Jin Hee albeit a short one screamed immature to me. Why couldn't she just let her daughter grow up? I didn't expect Eun Mi to change overnight, it was impossible. But I was hoping she would realize she behaved badly and truly apologize. But hey, at least she managed to be consistent in being selfish!
My dissatisfaction with the show admittedly is solely with the writing. Most of the characters seems unreal and cannot be found in real life. For starter, Eun Mi; the combination of her traits isn't something that I haven't seen in real life. Next, Jin Hong; who can just coolly accepted they have new found daughter and decided to just treat her like stranger even when they get to see the child in daily basis JUST BECAUSE they love the mother??? He is not normal IMO. Thank God we have his sister who behaves like any normal people would. Lastly, I adored Jin Hee and she was part of the reasons I stuck with this show; she is such an angel. Imagine living your whole life with a mom like Eun Mi and managed to grow without emotional bruises and strained relationship. Psychiatrists SHOULD BE AWARE of their job.
I seem to nitpick everything that I dislike about this drama. But to be fair, I confess, I LOVE some part of it.
1. The orthopedist doctor. I was hoping he would be Eun Mi love interest. I imagined he would bring good change to her with his personality.
2. The Aunt; family isn't always about blood, indeed.
3. Jae Won; outwardly he looks grumpy, but all I can see is how lonely and sad he is all the time. He tugs at my heart just like Park Dong Hoon in My Mister. I root for him instantly. Sadly we didn't get to explore his character more.
4. Police team with all their misunderstanding and bonding throughout the series.
5. Jae Won and Jin Hee. I love EVERYTHING about their relationship. Not rushed, very organic, mature, and most of all, without drama. I love how comfortable both with each other that the confession comes out as natural. Even when Jae Won acted as a noble idiot the next morning by saying it was an accident, Jin Hee didn't make a big deal out of it and instead call him out on it. I could see they have a long lasting relationship. They just complement each other.
6. And the last PPL; how COOL is that??? I enjoyed it immensely!!! Please PD, do more like this!
All in all, thank you for entertaining me these past few weeks. I WILL NOT miss you.

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There was another series not long ago (Delightfully Deceitful) whose finale was good enough to make up for the sins of the earlier episodes. Satisfying endings are so rare these days that they count for a lot in the overall ranking of the drama. Give me a series with a problematic beginning if its going to be wrapped up well at the end.

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Thanks for the recap!! I'm probably one of the few that loved the show from beginning to end and can see myself rewatching it. It's got such an emotional kick to it. That family picture scene with grandma's portrait and then panning into having grandma. I got a kick out of what I felt like an ambiguous ending. Did they backpack together the whole time or did they just meet up? Or did today's crazy phone technology allow for them to create these pics. I prefer not confirming!

Love how this is a family drama without it being a long, dramatic weekend drama. And it's been interesting to have the OTP of a drama be a mother-daughter after we had a mother-son drama. We should have more family pairings. I like how Eun-mi - even though she's ridiculous and selfish at times - doesn't really fit the molds of the other moms we see in kdramas. Jeon Hye-jin killed it. And Soo-young too. Actually everyone had such great chemistry with each other.

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I liked this show a lot, and I thought there was a lot of character growth starting to bud out in the last two episodes. It fit the 12 episode time line.

Mom was annoying at times but realistically acted like someone who never got to fully be an adolescent as a teenager and so never got that behavior out of her system. This happens to a lot of people who get developmentally interrupted by difficult things. I liked seeing the first signs of growth in her. I also really admired the strength that she got from those hard times was to go out of her way to be courageously crazy about helping women in need.

This made me love Sooyoung even more. She always plays interesting characters.

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This definitely was a drama. That’s all I’ve got to say after the finale.

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Considering the many many disappointing dramas this year at least NOT OTHERS remained consistent. This was ultimately a story of mother and daughter, their codependency and inability to let others interfere or shake up their dynamic. Sometimes this was a positive thing, not needing to rely on anyone else meant that Ji-hong’s parents had no hold on them. The three generations of women was also touching, found family or related family, when love is the foundation it’s far more meaningful and lasting. Especially in comparison to Ji-hong’s hostile and resentful relationship with his parents.

Perhaps Eun-mi relied on Ji-hee too much and Jin-hee unable to create boundaries for herself and being somewhat passive with her mother (which is interesting as she was definitely the opposite with Jae-won), is the crux of their codependency.

The Ending of the drama finally seemed to show Eun-mi and Ji-hee heading in different directions and yet the epilogue ruined that. So I don’t know what to make of it? Both of them definitely have issues and I do want Jin-hee to be independent. And yet they love each other and always will. They think about the other first. When Eun-mi finally got to drink again she celebrated with her daughter. When Jin-hee was thinking of travelling, she first thought of her mother.

Maybe Ji-hong and Jae-won will always be secondary to their bond as mother and daughter. Change is hard and ultimately there will be a day where Eun-mi has to let go of Jin-hee. But perhaps it’s just not the time yet, and while I wanted more, I can understand and hope for the best for these characters.

Side note: I didn’t mind Jae-won’s passivity at all, considering the stigma surrounding him and also the fact he is Jin-hee's boss, him not making the first move or creating an awkward work situation (looking at you KTL) was nice. This is one of the few times I liked a boss and subordinate relationship. It was a slow burn romance and Jin-hee being honest and frank without being too pushy was satisfying to watch. One of my favourite couples this year hands down!

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I actually know a few clingy mothers like this who have done something similar. Maybe not turning up at the last minute at the airport, but certainly travelling with their daughters for the first few weeks. None of these mothers were teenage single mothers either. Letting go is hard for many.

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The ending was great except for the decision to go around the globe for a year. Jin Hee was never shown to be shaken by all the unexpected events that happened in her life because she handled them all calmly which makes the sudden idea to travel abroad a bit weird, but then the fact that the show started out haphazardly makes it not much of a big deal.

I would have liked the partner of Jin Soo being introduced much earlier because Jin Soo was more interesting than Jae Won, whose character seems like an afterthought and did nothing to the overall show.

I like that everyone is at a comfortable place much like the beginning of the drama with no hard feelings and still sharing love. Additional good thing about this drama is that the side characters did not hog the limelight from the main theme of the drama by having their own plot threads. Even the murder victim and the murderer were not given more screen time than what was needed.

@dramaddictally thanks for the recap.

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I like the drama, even if the main characters were sometimes frustrating, especially Eun-mi, who I didn't always understand. But that was part of the charm of this series and it was refreshing to see characters who were unconventional and not always likeable.

In terms of Jin-hee and Jae-won, I had forgotten before the finale that this drama wasn't going to go the typical route and was hoping for a romantic dating phase. Yet I actually knew after episode 11 that not everything would be rosy, as Jae-won's problems didn't just disappear into thin air. I hope that he will get his professional problems sorted out while Jin-hee is travelling the world. At least he made it clear at the end that he will no longer run away from a relationship with Jin-hee.

As far as I know, the webtoon consists of three parts. I would linke to know if only one part of it was adapted into this drama.

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do you know if there is a place where we can read the webtoon in English or something? maybe fan translations? I tried to look and couldn't find anything. curious to see how the story was developed there.

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As far as I know, there is no English translation. However, I am not a webtoon reader, so I don't know if there is a translation somewhere.

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I definitely wanted more of Jae Won, I don’t really understand why the actor agreed for this role, but as long as he got paid I can’t complain, I don’t really understand why mother could not just live her life for a year with her boyfriend

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Thanks for the recap! I didn't read the ending the way you did. I didn't assume they took the photos while in Europe, but afterward, because of the rapidly switching screens.

What I really appreciated in the ending was that even though both of the protagonists wound up with their appropriate boyfriends, the writers resisted the impulse to make Eun-mi wind up married to Jin-hong. This, even though it's clear by the end of the show that he wishes he had been allowed to stay with her in high school. The relationship that gets officially affirmed in the last episode is the one with Eun-mi's chosen family. To me, that seemed like such a big deal! A much bigger deal than marriage, which is the way that people usually enter each other's families in Korean dramas. In most dramas, you see people having a problem with blended families, illegitimacy, and adoption. I also really appreciated the hiking scene with the pancakes and makeoli and singing to the baby. It was so moving to know that Eun-mi bought her mom long underwear with her first paycheck and sent her money. They were just all so committed to each other.

I just liked how, even though Eun-mi wound up with a first love who has a big enough heart to be a great dad, we didn't make him be the dad. He was a walking green flag, as the kids say, but he wasn't the resolution to the conflict in the plot, which was about Eun-mi's unsureness that she had raised *herself*. Obviously she did a great job raising her daughter, with the help of a found family. But she did have to raise herself in the absence of appropriate parenting, and she's kind of an immature person! That's why I thought the photo scenes at the end were not them traveling together, but coming back together afterward.

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I really like your point about not forcing Jin-hong into the "dad" role, even if he's perfectly good. It works really well with the specific theme of family this drama has! I just kind of wish they hadn't laid so many threads suggesting Jin-hong wanted that role (and that Jin-hee may have some underlying emotion about it) if they were going to go this direction from the start

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I thought the way Jin-ee and Jin-hong navigated their relationship was very well done. The wistfulness and the gradual development of real respect was good writing and good acting! I think the reason their relationship was left open but going in a positive direction is that resolving her relationship to him was not part of her conflict as a character.

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I also loved how they just made him be the boyfriend of the mom. And that bf is also good to Jin-hee and respects her as an individual, while all the other boyfriends in her mom's past saw her as either baggage or someone whom they need to impress in order to get with the mom.

I'm impressed by how the drama had him be unsure with navigating his role with Eun-mi and Jin-hee. He stepped on a few toes, but he adapted and persisted without judgment and while maintaining the pleasant demeanor. More than a walking green flag, I feel like he's a unicorn!

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At the end, I'd prefer to think of it as a slice of life because to be completely honest I'm not quite sure how to take this one as a whole. Nevertheless, Not Other has been a fun watch. I kept thinking about it and I think the finale just convinced me that truly the strength of Not Other's are actually in the conversation heavy scenes.... The goldfish conversation, basically the finale week focuses more on these kind of scenes and I love it so much, tbh even more than the supposedly comedic scenes.

As someone who has watched a LOT of Sooyoung's drama (I think I have watched hers most amongst soshi actress line), Run On would probably the first one I was totally impressed with but in this one.... It was such a weird experience because for the first time... I feel like I'm watching her just like how I watch my fave actresses rather than my idol in a drama.. idk how to convey it but it just feel like she's so good this is the first time I have properly seen her as an actress (not that she isn't good the other times...)

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I agree about Sooyoung! I was a casual admirer of SNSD, so I don't know her personality...but I also feel like she just slipped into the role as comfortable as if it were her own skin in all the scenes. I feel like the writing, directing, and acting partners and chemistry in a lot of those heavy scenes were done so well that it makes it easier to bring out the emotions. I was sad and heartbroken in those heavy scenes and I'm just a viewer with very little in common with the characters.

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The last two episodes was mush better than the previous ones. Eun-mi was less frustrating. The grandma story was so beautiful and heartwarming. Our young couple finally kissed. Also side characters had good endings. BUT the one year trip was so sudden that felt unrealistic and like a part of another drama. It didn't bother me much that Eun-mi went with Jin-hee on her trip, though I didn't like it either.
Park Sung-hoon is one of my favorite actors. I've seen him in different dramas like Into the ring, Glory, Justice and psychopath diary and he never felt off like this. I don't know if the problem was writing or his acting. He didn't show emotions. At least at the first half he was angry all the time.
Also anyone notice the teen pregnant girl who came for sanitary pads? It means that she got abortion, right? What really was the point of her story?
Overall I can say that I was disappointed considering the anticipation I had.

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Honestly, the show could’ve ended and solidly secured a spot on my ‘underrated gems’ list - if not for that fucking end. The moment I saw Eun-mi at the airport with a bag pack, I knew this all was for nothing. How wonderful would it have been if the conclusion showed that despite the miles between mother and daughter, their bond remained just as strong and loving, but no; Eun-mi just had to be her selfish and possessive self till the bitter end. Distance would’ve done both women so well. Eun-mi could focus on her new relationship and possibly move in with Jin-hong, whilst Jin-hee finally gets the chance to centre herself over others. But no, the writer was fucking determined to keep our leading ladies codependent on one another. I’m so bitter. Seriously, why couldn’t Jin-hee have gone on that trip with Jae-won? He’s the one with the passion for travelling; he’s even journaled all his favourite destinations and he’s the one with the map. Furthermore, if Jin-hee is someone magically capable of taking a year off, then why not him? It also would’ve worked as a parallel to her mom; both women deciding to focus on themselves and their respective romantic relationships free from their messy, entangled daily life. I was actually convinced until the last ten minutes that Jae-won and Jin-hee would be travelling together, but alas, the writer completely passes on this great idea. What the hell.

Anyway, it was fun while it lasted. It definitely had its flaws along the way and the ending left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth, but it was still decent for most of the run. I still think the serial killer/stalker/criminal side-plot - like in most dramas - was too overemphasized and that time should’ve instead focused on Jaewon and Jin-hee’s relationship and the growing team dynamic, but it wasn’t too distracting.

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I had that precise thought about Jae-won being stuck back in Korea. This is the guy who (apparently) dreamed so much of travelling that he had a photo-filled travel dream journal—and he couldn’t go too? He’s the one who stands up for his hoobaes even if they’re guilty. He’s the one who supports his community with all his might. Can’t he catch a break and live his own dream for a little bit??

If Jin-hee was going alone, then fine. But clearly for at least a month or two she was not.

You know what, screw it. He should get to go alone too. It’s open season for backpacking in Europe by characters from this stupid show.

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I liked this drama. It explored the ins and outs of a unique mother/daughter bond. Mostly securing, but sometimes strangling. I just wish we could have seen more of Jin Hee and Jae Won as a couple. Maybe Season 2?

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I consider this a gem of a drama. What I like is these characters are as realistic as it gets - flawed but true to themselves.

Eun-mi is the one getting the most criticism but come on, she raised the girl almost single-handedly to become an independent and responsible person - while at the same time establishing herself a health professional. This is some remarkable achievement by any standard, not to mention in Korea. She is clearly a bit wild and selfish but why can’t she? Clearly, those around her including her own daughter, bestie and colleagues adore her. I gather the daughter knows her flaws the best but Jin-Hee loves her mom with clear eyed. I think the writer has written a consistent character and Jeon Hye-Jin understands that character very well with an ace delivery. The current story happens in the space of a few months and seriously, you think a person in her forty can change that easily in such a short time. I like how real this character is written and portrayed.

Soo-young has really honed her acting skills in that her Jin-Hee is so natural. She obviously loves her mom to the bone despite at times got really annoyed. Here, the bond and love outweigh other things and believably so.

This is front and a centre a story about the mom and daughter with the two men in the background - interestingly both are passive for different reasons. I really like Park Soon-hung here, apparently not many lines but less is more to make him so desirable. I’m never a fan of Anh Jae-work but his Jin-hong is just right - a beta guy recognising his wrong and doing his best to make up. The arc of his not pursuing to be the dad is great and realistic - far superior than similar arc in many other dramas.

Then, I like how all the side characters enrich the whole story to immerse us into their small communities - the police team, the clinic crew, the halmoni trio, and also the bestie and her mom. The doctor’s character is well constructed as a man of his own principles.

It’s at the end of the day a story about what family means. While we have no choice to choose who in your natural family, you could shape and decide the type of family relationship - and we have the Eun-mi and the found family on one hand and also the Jin-Hong toxic family on the other hand that both brother and sister choose to disassociate. And you can have your extended family in your workplace where you spend more time there than with your own family. I appreciate how this drama in just 12 episodes thrashes these out quite well.

Viki at least in my region cut out the final credits. I didn’t get to see those travel photos AT ALL! What I can tell is they head off to different directions in the airport but I won’t be surprised that they meet up at some point. After all, the mom and daughter love each other deeply. They are not enemies and I totally expect them to meet up.

Not Others is a top drama to me this year.

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