Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching (June 3, 2023)
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
missvictrix
Currently covering: Race
Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938: Episode 7 was just about the best thing I’ve watched all year, and while I know that’s not saying much since it’s been kind of a bum year for dramas thus far, this drama really and truly is exceeding my expectations every week. Great character moments and even greater characters make this so much fun. One of the few dramas where I don’t mind the expanding universe/storyline/seasons.
DaebakGrits
Currently covering: Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938
Doctor Cha: I love this drama, but I’m so afraid I’m going to hate the finale. I don’t want Jung-sook to get sick again because it’s very obvious that In-ho will offer up his liver on the condition she won’t divorce him, and that pisses me off so much. Even if it gets resolved in a way that appeases me, I don’t want to spend my last two episodes with these characters frustrated that a precious chunk of time is dedicated to more of In-ho’s awful (but often comically dumb) behavior. As much as I want my ship to sail, I’d be fine if nothing happens between her and Dr. Dreamboat! Just give me two episodes of Jung-sook living her best life!
Oh! Young-shim: It’s cute, but this is not the Love is for Suckers do-over I was hoping for.
My Perfect Stranger: On paper, this should be the drama I look forward to each week. Time travel, romance, murder mystery, two of my favorite actors — all elements that should put it at the top of my priority list. And yet, this is the drama that I come to after I’ve caught up on everything else. Not sure why this is the case because I can’t point to anything that annoys me or puts me off. Maybe it’s a pacing issue? In that it moves slowly and doesn’t quite leave me hanging in suspense, wanting more? I’m wondering if this would be a drama that I’m better off pausing and then bingeing when it’s complete.
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Tags: Doctor Cha, My Perfect Stranger, Oh! Young-shim, Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938, What We're Watching
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1 Unaspirated
June 3, 2023 at 5:02 AM
The Good Bad Mother: Episode 11 was a snoozefest, but episode 12 got back on track. Sam-shik took 12 episodes to become interesting, but better late than never? Where can I find the spinoff to this drama where we just watch Kang-ho, Mi-joo, and the twins be an adorable family and they all have therapy so they don’t pass on their generational trauma? I don’t even love slice-of-lifes, but I would watch that.
Sh**ting Stars: *Spoilers* I guess I understand where people were coming from when they didn’t like the heavier plot lines, but they didn’t really bother me at all. They were foreshadowed and felt like a part of living as a celebrity or supporting a celebrity, which is what this show is all about. Plus they didn’t cause our couples to break up, which is enough to make me forgive much greater wrongs than that. Nothing could dampen my excitement watching all the ships sail off into the sunset at the end, and I couldn’t stop myself from bursting into laughter at every adorable moment and holding my breath at every swoony scene. I’m putting it down as one of my favorite romcoms ever. The last episode took me forever to watch because I kept rewinding to watch things again. *happy sigh*
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:10 AM
That elevator scene... 😄❤️
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 5:23 AM
😆 That was so good watching his facial expression was the best thing.
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Kurama
June 3, 2023 at 6:25 AM
He was so afraid for his future cappuccinos.
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mmmmm
June 3, 2023 at 11:10 AM
Legend.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 5:20 AM
So glad to hear you enjoyed Sh**ting Stars!! I'm still only on ep. 7, but I'm aware of the heavier plots that pop up later on... part of the reason I'm watching SO slowly is because I enjoy it SO much and don't want it to end!
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Asha13
June 3, 2023 at 6:30 AM
I started Sh**ting stars thinking we would have a few episodes of them sparring and a slow conversion to romance but the ML seemed smitten by her right off the bat. Little disappointed and put a pin on it for now.
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parkchuna 🍉
June 3, 2023 at 9:42 AM
But they do still fight a lot though!and it’s hilarious when the ML tries to be nice but all his attempts were misunderstood.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM
The shoelaces! 🤣 And he has no one to blame but himself.
I would have loved a spinoff mini web series about the ML and the lawyer. Just encounters in the elevator, the staircase, the office corridor, and the kitchen, over and over - something like The Boy Next Door.
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parkchuna 🍉
June 3, 2023 at 9:45 AM
Sh**ting Stars: who knew death by over-salting could be a plot point 😆
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books7time
June 3, 2023 at 11:10 AM
I am watching FORBIDDEN MARRIAGE right now, and while I am enjoying it for its own sake it is making me itch to re-watch SH**TING STARS. I agree with you that it is one of the better romcoms. Dramas where you fall for and then care for every character are rare and this is one of them for me.
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mmmmm
June 3, 2023 at 11:14 AM
Sh**ting Stars is one of the best things that happened in Kdramaland. So pure. It has many iconic scenes, one of which is the scene when two best friends looked at each other and understood one another without having to say a word. Fantastic acting.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 5, 2023 at 1:02 PM
Yes, considering how sad that whole incident was they handled it so well that it was watchable and we could notice things like that. They were there as humans connecting first and then interacting as dictated by their job roles second.
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Firewife5
June 3, 2023 at 12:50 PM
I just finished watching Sh**ting Stars for the first time. I don't think I've ever watched a drama where I liked so many of the supporting cast, and felt just as invested in them as I did the main couple.
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2 miso
June 3, 2023 at 5:03 AM
Not a lot on my drama plate right now. Feels like I'm just biding my time till June 17th…
ONGOING
Tale of the Nine-Tailed 1938 - I haven't seen Kim So-yeon in much before and I totally get the hype now. She's magnetic and so good at expressions and tonal shifts.
My Perfect Stranger - The torture scenes were difficult to watch. Lee Won-jung did a really good job in them though. I hope things have changed permanently for the better for Hee-seob in this timeline.
The Good Bad Mother - Hope Kang-ho works together with Mi-joo to bring down our evil duo. Maybe with some help from the Lettuce Boys whose conscience is clearly acting up.
STARTED
Delightfully Deceitful - Not a fan of the fourth wall breaks or the big-bad being some shady, cult-y 'foundation' again. I think the show would be more interesting if she did kill her parents 🤷♀️.
C-DRAMAS
Planning to try Where Dreams Begin for Xiao Zhan.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 3, 2023 at 5:12 AM
Fully agree about delightfully deceitful
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:25 AM
There will be torture??
I may chicken out and not continue...
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miso
June 3, 2023 at 5:36 AM
It's definitely plot-relevant (not gratuitous violence) but I'd suggest fast-forwarding or skipping if you need to.
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 6:05 AM
Ok, thanks. I will see... it will probably still knock the drama down on my To Watch/Catch up list.
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3 Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:04 AM
I was planning to catch up with Kim Sabu... but I got distracted by jdrama Ousama ni Sasagu Kusuriyubi and went through first 4 episodes. So far I quite like it, though one has to be aware that this is a manga adaptation and thus manga lenses are necessary. 😉
Dr Cha
The show is getting a biiiit makjangish... but I still like it. There is still enough heart (Mom's letter to Seunghee) and humour (of course a handbag is better! 😄).
It is a shame that Seunghee is so fixated on her dream of family life with Inho, because without that obsession she is an awesome woman.
Real
I finally got the confession. 😊
Step Hyung with his wife are giving me such contradicting emotions, one moment I feel for them (and love their relationship)... and another moment they are sooo annoying!
I'm also not sure how I feel about Step Noona and her husband, the show sort of introduced new potential partners for them. Will they really just co-parent or will they still find a way back to each other? Either of the options can be good... or not.
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4 cat-cric-kat
June 3, 2023 at 5:04 AM
CRICKET - Test cricket is up
English summer is always entertaing and competitive summer
So good to see Root bat and reach 11000 - surely can become highest test run batter as England play lot of tests.
Waiting for the world test championship final and A S H E S
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cat-cric-kat
June 3, 2023 at 5:16 AM
JAPAN - woah summer looks good
Netflix japan has provided many new trailers too.
-ve - too many manga getting tv drama - what are writers doing
ANIME - Can't sleep - 7 out of 10
Bread and love - 7 out of 10
Makoto Shinkai - yeah yeah making huge money - says in interview that attention on Japanese audience but very smartly create media whose appeal is causal entertainment - Shinkai is a brand that sells - content always same - slightly above average - smart businessman - not an artist
@screentime where r u - maybe b/c u post as guest which no more
i have started to pay some attention on individuals - ashida mana's upcoming drama with mayu looks good
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cat-cric-kat
June 3, 2023 at 5:28 AM
KOREA - Jun ho vs. Emre Bey - summer
weekend drama inspiring one upcoming turkish drama
Korean summer also looking slightly better - trash aired - trash airing - u can can't make new low - time to make high now - the smiley with dimpls doing action - looking good
Middle class - extra hard working heroine - has talent - now in office - romance - typical no effort low quality bait n those who fall for it r d ones aimed at from start - as i said before numerous times - throw a bone, every1 wags d tail - ofcourse u will be looked down upon
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thimble
June 3, 2023 at 10:40 AM
I never heard that before, @cat. Throw a bone and everyone wags their tail. Good one!
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cat-cric-kat
June 3, 2023 at 5:32 AM
turkey - 2 summer dramas
China - Gen Z - Chinese traditional medicine - heh - i talked about internal heat a lot - good to see some talk in tv drama
Working mothers - ahhhh
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5 Radily
June 3, 2023 at 5:07 AM
The Good Bad Mother (Episode 11-12) - Mood: C-
Not the poor pigs for the 3rd time! But now the show is knocking on finale’s door, everything is rushed from minuscule stuff, like the trot singer’s sudden departure, to the big revelations, like that Hospital Room of Truth. And we still have so much to cover next week with the revenge, death, parentage, lettuces, even the masked villager’s face reveal? At this point we pray.
Delightfully Deceitful (Episode 1-2) - Mood: C-
It’s double the Kim Dong Wook! Well, I’m certainly not complaining. But while I’m intrigued by both our leads (I’m of the opinion that Moo Young is actually playing Ro Um, more than she thinks) as well as our probation officer (he might also be involved in the childhood story?), the whole story seems to be your classic evil corporation and child experiments. Yawn!
My Perfect Stranger (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C-
Nah, that was a stupid cliffhanger: there’s no point trying to get the audience to speculate on who Hae Joon’s mom is since anyone else could’ve been wearing the pink hairband too? I’m worried that the show continues to ignore the elephant in the room that is the car or even time travel in general while pushing a frankly unneeded romance between the leads. We’ll see?
Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938 (Episode 7-8) - Mood: C-
So we went from the question of why Yeon killed Moo Young’s brother to why said brother was trying to kill Moo Young: nice narrative question to ponder upon, just way too late, given that there’s still the ultimate question of who the resurrector is. I honestly find the Japanese general a waste of time, not only that, not-Yu Ri’s character was basically sacrificed for his arc.
Doctor Cha (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D+
Doctor Cha’s mother has the terminal illness trope in the penultimate week while she herself has an organ rejection trope in the finale week: it just makes me laugh at the absurdity of it all. Well, at least Roy isn’t related to Cha: that would’ve been a bigger annoyance. His decision in the preview to donate his liver means he’s flipping his finger at his “family”: good for him!
Happiness Battle (Episode 1-2) - Mood: D
Honestly, I couldn’t really tell you if there’s a significant difference between this show and Green Mothers’ Club. On the other hand, it’s not like I wasn’t expecting 5 brilliant actresses to be wasted in a makjang story again: there’s just about nothing else to watch mid-week. Lee El being confirmed as not the murderer is disappointing but I’m not surprised.
Oh! Young-shim (Episode 5-6) - Mood: D-
What’s worse than a 2FL who’s determined to screw the OTP over? That’s right, assassinating the 2ML character as well! It baffles me as to why the writer ever thought that was a good idea but oh well, even the OTP hasn’t hashed out their issues.
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6 lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 5:08 AM
Finished:
The Oath of Love (C-drama): The drama threw in half a dozen problems after the leads became a couple, without leaving enough space or time for satisfying development or resolution :( It’s kind of a blessing though because I was REALLY in love with his show and if that the last leg hadn’t plateaued, I would’ve had a hard time letting go. This way, I’m still satisfied (because happy ending, lots of cute moments still etc.) but not hung up over it.
Love Between Fairy and Devil (C-drama): I have a new found appreciation for the costume, styling and set details this rewatch! I really, REALLY, want to own some (who am I kidding, ALL) of the pieces in DFQC’s wardrobe! They were exquisite and the best I’ve seen in any show so far ✨
My Lethal Man (C-drama): this one hit the spot for ‘cheesy and overdramatic beautiful rich people romance-revenge plot’. It opened with our ML - tall, handsome, brooding - in a stylish three piece speaking in Italian, which made me go ‘…Vincenzo? Is that you?’.
Watching:
Race (8/12): Really nice slice of life watch! I am now team ‘not Jaemin’ because imo, the plot has gone to a point of no return with that whole bit. And if they were to try and back flip, it’d feel unsatisfactory and unfair to Yoonjo. I get the feeling though, after the end of ep.8, that we may be headed for the 11th hour character backflip potentially (and unfortunately).
Good Bad Mother (12/14): Feels I’ve got one eye 👁️ on this show hahahah I’m not really watching but just fast forwarding to see just the things I want to see (the twins).
Tale of the Nine Tailed 2 (3/12): “I’ll wait till it finishes airing” she said. “I don’t have a fear of missing out” she also said. As per usual, she has not even one ounce of willpower and the ep 7/8 recap for this show was the final straw. I’ve jumped in and trying to see if I can catch up and at least watch the finale on air with everyone else. LEE RANG, I’M RUNNING TO YOU!
Back from The Brink (C-drama, 30/I still don’t know how many there are in total): My fickle heart has jumped back onto Team ML so the whole SLS issue has abated…for now. I am starting to wonder just how many back and forth ‘dying for u’ plot lines we’re going to have (like literally, dying for you/in place of you/to save you/dying just because plot device), but then again this is the bread & butter of the genre.
To Ship Someone(C-drama, on air) I’ve added another to my on air roster! The premise for this is so interesting, the FL (ever the optimist only believes in happy endings) gets transported to the world of a popular story, along with the ML (eternal cynic, writes only tragic endings) who is the author of the story and they’ve got to navigate their way through and rewrite the story to save themselves from a sad ending. I really like the way this one has been shot and the plot reminds me a little of Extraordinary You (which...
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 5:08 AM
(which I LOVED) so hoping it stays strong!
Immortal Samsara (C-drama, 4/61): It’s another BIG one (61 episodes). I’m getting so used to watching big dramas that 24 episode dramas seem “small”, even when they’re one hour episodes 💀 This one has Cheng Yi as the ML and it’s going to take a while for my brain to disassociate his face with Crystal Yuan yelling ‘SIFENG’ on loop (thanks Love & Redemption 😂)
The Untamed (C-drama): I’m trying to tame the anticipation, because the online hype has been real and I don’t want to be disappointed if the drama doesn’t meet whatever ridiculous high bar I’ve set in my head. BUT honestly, with Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan in the same screen, I’d happily watch this muted even.
Meteor Garden (C-drama, 2/50): I BARELY got through Boys Over Flowers and I’d say I did it for LMH but it was more like I finished it in spite of his hair cut and the rest of the ‘plot’. I’ve heard the C-drama version is the good kind of trash though and also it has Dylan Wang (in a not shit hair style) 🥰 This will be the perfect ‘turn brain off during commute home from work’ watch.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 5:28 AM
I enjoy reading your C-drama reviews! Yay - another Meteor Garden watcher! Yep, it's the good kind of trashy 😂 (i.e., completely addictive).
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 5:39 AM
hehehe I'm glad, thank you for reading them!! are you watching meteor garden too??
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 5:51 AM
2018 Meteor Garden was my very first drama (watched in 2018), so I have a begrudging love for it😂
Your description of To Ship Someone makes it sound right up my alley - I'm adding it to my C-drama list!
Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:37 AM
Oh, but that's the new Meteor Garden, right?
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Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 6:09 AM
@lapislazulii is watching the same Meteor Garden I'm watching these days, the Chinese adaptation (2018).
I have already watched 27 (out of 49, according to Netflix).
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 6:56 AM
Whenever I see the title Meteor Garden, I automatically assume it is the 2001 Taiwanese version 😅
(I'm constantly forgetting there was the relatively recent Chinese one.)
ar_arguably romantic
June 3, 2023 at 9:55 AM
@Dorotka Same here! I was a teen when the taiwanese Meteor Garden was released and it was huge at the time so maybe that's why it stuck with me more. I wasn't able to get my hands on most of the episodes, but I got my hands on the OST and posters since I was a fan of the manga at the time. F4 filled the asian boy band void I didn't know I had until I got into kpop.
Ahjummaaa
June 4, 2023 at 10:06 AM
I know it's old but Barbie Hsu will always embody the essence of Shancai to me. I love the way she speaks, firm and clear and natural. She has a lovely persuasive and charming way of speaking that convinces you she is Shancai, strong and responsible and just. She was a true heroine.
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StacyA
June 3, 2023 at 5:54 AM
I plan to watch Oath of Love at some point, so thanks for helping to temper my expectations. I've also been considering whether to watch Meteor Garden if just for Dylan Wang, but I wasn't that impressed with the actress when I tried to watch Mr. Bad, so I dunno.
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emsel
June 3, 2023 at 8:08 AM
I do not know about Meteor Garden FL's (Shin Yu Shen) other dramas, but she was alright in MG 2018 and had chemistry with Dylan Wang
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 3, 2023 at 5:59 AM
I don’t watch costume dramas or longer episode dramas but Untamed was an exception. It took me around 14 episodes (not sure which episode exactly) to get hooked. After that it was one heck of a watch. I went too deep. Lan Zhan 🥰
The fan wall went crazy around that time.
So glad you get to watch this for the first time! Hope you enjoy it as much as we all did.
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wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 6:19 AM
Who wouldn't want a full set of DFQC demon robes? Also, while I know everyone's experience is different, The Untamed not only met my expectations, it smashed through them and ended up well beyond what I ever expected a Mainland Chinese show (or any show, really) to do. One of the rare shows that just keeps getting better and better all the way to the end.
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 7:01 AM
You are tempting me with Untamed...
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wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 7:49 AM
The initial episodes are messy and the acting and effects are uneven, but it becomes absolutely gorgeous as it goes along - one of my favorite things I've ever watched.
Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:36 AM
You forgot to mention THE TIE! 😄
#Lethal Man
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 5:39 AM
HAHAH yes!! that man made the most mundane things look so hot, but that tie scene was something else - how on earth do you making drawing blood look so damn attractive????
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:58 AM
I watched it more than once. 😊
(And the BTS is funny.)
And then there is the famous fighting scene in the underground parking 😁
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StacyA
June 3, 2023 at 5:49 AM
Here for THE TIE comments :D :D :D
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redfox
June 3, 2023 at 11:30 AM
be careful running to Lee Rang, he has a very loud mermaid, you do not want to set off the worlds loudest burglar alarm
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 2:17 PM
😂
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Firewife5
June 3, 2023 at 1:05 PM
I'm currently watching Back From the Brink also. I like all the main characters and as long as I don't look too hard at the plot it's fun to watch, so I'm not . Yeah the dying-for-you, in-place-of-you, because-of-you does seem to be a recurring theme here. Not often enough to make a drinking game out of it, but close.
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM
I agree! It's a funny observation, but I'm enjoying how fun it is, and the lack of like a really solid 'no gaps' plot contributes to that. Someone in the comments compared it to watching anime adventure, and I thought that was a great comparison!
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ar_arguably romantic
June 3, 2023 at 11:32 PM
I compared it to anime last week for the first 10 episodes, especially with how they depict the monsters/spirits - horse-head man (from the arena episodes), that monster that was being enslaved by a bad guy but turned into a cute little baby monster after it was released, gold-eating spirit, etc. And omg, those cute elf spirits too. I think it got a little bit less anime-ish as it went on (I'm on ep 24 now), but I'm still enjoying it. It helps that the characters are fun/interesting to watch and it's well-cast.
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Firewife5
June 4, 2023 at 1:58 AM
I haven't watched a lot of anime, but now that you've said it I totally see what you mean.
Firewife5
June 4, 2023 at 2:14 AM
It is fun to watch! Honestly, the rest of the show could just be the 3 main leads going on adventure after adventure and I'd keep watching. I also like that the show doesn't take us down the side plot path too often or too long, and keeps the focus on the main characters.
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7 Kafiyah Bello
June 3, 2023 at 5:11 AM
My Perfect Stranger: I continue to really enjoy this drama. Yoon Young realizing what happened with her father while also still not being able to touch him for the damage he caused her was so sad. However, knowing and understanding his history is important. As for who Hae Joon's mother is, I think it is the lady at the tea shop and I also think she is part of the murders too. We keep catching glimpses of her and we already know she lied about seeing the guy in the blue cap. She has seemed suspicious from the beginning.
Delightfully Deceitful: It has not been a great set up for this drama. The is she or isn't she a psychopath story has been done and not well before and it is not doing well now. Kdrama writers have yet to commit to writing a true psychopath. Everything she has done was for a legitimate reason. Hopefully moving forward, they stop the 4th wall break and the rest of the character and team intros aren't so abrupt. We get it you have to take down the big bad, sigh.
The Good Bad Mother: Young Soo is still terrible and Mi Joo is still wonderful. I am curious though what is going to happen when the twins find out Kang Ho is there dad, the heartbreak for my poor poor Ye Jin and anger from Se Jin will be interesting.
Kim Sa Bu: I am calling shenanigans again. The hospital and Dr. Insu were negligent in that boys death. The fact that it was accidental tragedy, doesn't negate the negligence. Where were the nurses? Dr. Insu isn't fully responsible, but he does have part of the blame. Is the councilwoman doing too much, yes, but she did lose her child, and doctors should be punished for negligence, just like anyone. There careers shouldn't be destroyed, but they should face some penalty, just like anyone else.
Race: Race up several flights of stairs when the girl you don't like asks you to meet her. Okay, sir, lol.
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emsel
June 3, 2023 at 8:10 AM
I would like penalty for the whole hospital because even after that accidental death, they continue to be short staffed and keep bringing in patients😑
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8 Linarrick
June 3, 2023 at 5:11 AM
GOOD BAD MOTHER (Ep 11-12)
Show can I just have Mi-joo?
Kang-ho doesn’t deserve her, and I…
probably don’t either but at least I won’t leave her hanging
TALE OF THE NINE TAILED & TALE OF THE NINE TAILED 1938 (Ep 1-5)
So I watched the first episode of the sequel and while it’s my kind of chaotic, I felt I was missing some key bits of info and world-building. Yes I could’ve read the recaps, buuuut I didn’t want to miss out on cocky Kim Bum yanno? Anyway I’m currently watching one episode of S1 and one episode of S2 and so on and so forth.
I vastly prefer S2 tho, cause of my queen Kim So-yeon. She is FANTASTIC and I’m in LOVE!
Screw Yeon.
Hong-joo is my GOD and I fully worship her! Gahhh she looks so STUNNING, but I also love her character, she’s so darn charismatic. Okay fine I’m shallow but she’s serving up those incredible looks to mere peasant folk like me, so how can I not worship her?!
Gushing aside, I think my favourite scene so far was between Mu-young and Eun-ho. Ask a lady to lie inside a coffin and talk about each other's traumas. That’s top tier seduction right there, Mu-young you playboy you…
Seriously tho, I want more scenes between them. They’ve got some sizzling chemistry
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Linarrick
June 3, 2023 at 5:12 AM
WESTERN SHOWS:
I don’t normally talk about western TV (unless it’s amazing). With its multi season format I sometimes forget that I’m watching a show until whatever streaming service reminds me the new season is out. Anyway this past week there were finales to some series I’ve been watching.
SUCCESSION
I’m not the biggest fan of this show, I watched it mainly for my sister. While I like the fact the rich aren’t being seen as something to idolise, sometimes I wonder why I kept watching rich powerful assholes being rich powerful assholes. I would definitely like to scrape ‘Boar On The Floor’ from my memory thanks.
Still the finale got me, I remember reading a comment saying the siblings were brought up in such a way they can’t see the other ‘win’. Or when Roman said the were NOTHING, which was the only wise thing that came out of his mouth tbh. Anyway I thought the ending was depressingly realistic and can’t really feel bad for the siblings when they get BILLIONS out of this deal so…
TED LASSO
This was pure fluff and I loved most of it. It was my happy place and that’s a feat considering I don’t care about football or any other sport actually.
MARVELLOUS MRS. MAISEL
I liked the finale. Midge & Susie were the heart of the show and seeing them banter over the phone and watch Jeopardy together was the perfect way to end the series imo.
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Kafiyah Bello
June 3, 2023 at 5:15 AM
I love Succession, lol, I'm sad you didn't like it as much. One of my favorite shows that stuck the landing.
I have to wait for my friend to finish the last two episodes of Ted Lasso, so, will skip past that, but I haven't loved this season so far, not as much as previous seasons.
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Linarrick
June 3, 2023 at 5:31 AM
Oh I definitely agree the finale of SUCCESSION stuck the landing! The tension was high and I couldn’t look away. I’d give the final episode 10/10
My lack of enthusiasm on the series as a whole is very subjective on my part, I guess I found it hard to watch considering I didn’t like any character, which I guess is the whole point of the show. But I’m glad you like it, same with my sister she absolutely loved it!
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bbstl 🧹
June 3, 2023 at 9:50 AM
No, you’re not alone. Every week after watching Succession, I felt dirty and depressed at such awful people who are manipulating our world just because of money. Besides being not very bright, they’re completely toxic. I watched to see what was such a big deal about the show but have yet to drag myself through the last 3 episodes. Yucky.
bbstl 🧹
June 3, 2023 at 12:28 PM
You all may find this interesting, a review contrasting Succession and Ted Lasso.
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2023/06/succession-ted-lasso-series-finales/674276/
pari
June 4, 2023 at 11:07 PM
I finished Marvellous Mrs. Maisel yesterday, and I found it amazing and so real.
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9 HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 5:15 AM
My Perfect Stranger - Sadly, dropped after ep. 8. Since I knew this drama would skirt the line of what I can handle with suspense/thriller/violence elements, I've been spoilering myself by watching KBS clips on YouTube and reading comments on MDL. The commentary for ep. 9 about the Baek brothers was the tipping point for me. I know this is an important part of Korean history, but the tragic violence is too much for me. I'm disappointed, because I've really liked the ML, FL, family themes, tone, and music. Maybe at some point I'll come back to it with a heavy hand on the FF button.
While I'm waiting for the four June drama premiers I'm excited for (!!!), I'm working on finishing up others on my list. Delighting in the humor and sparky chemistry of Sh**ting Stars; luxuriating in the languid pace and emotional depth of Call it Love.
Too Cool to Kill -- Movie on Viki. An action comedy that pays homage to old Hollywood. A bit-part actor is hired to play the role of a hitman ("Karl") in order to fool a mob boss. BUT, the actor thinks he's playing the role for a movie - without cameras or a script! ("Freestyling," lol). Absurd humor, heart, and a happy ending. Some of the funniest scenes I've seen in ANY movie, including some excellent "internal monologues" and a hilarious Mandarin/Italian interpretation negotiation scene. Highly recommend! 10/10! After I watched and loved it, I told my mom she should watch it, and she also loved it!
C-Dramas -- Decided to wait for Back From the Brink to finish airing so I can bingewatch! After a long time away from Love Like the Galaxy, I'm slowly continuing my watch. It reminds me of War and Peace - epic in scale (including visual scale!), and a sprawling cast of characters... most of whom I don't like. Also slowly watching Sword Snow Stride, which has a zen-like feel that I appreciate.
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Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 6:54 AM
Wow! Watching Sh**ting Stars and Call It Love at the same time must be quite the pairing! Beyond the casting overlap, they’re pretty different takes on romance :)
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 7:21 AM
Yeah it's fascinating!! They're both really good at what they are. Both feel very "full" to me - Sh**ting Stars with a big ensemble and lots of dialogue, and Call it Love with meaningful moments and depth of feeling. Call it Love uses silence very strategically to dig deeper into feelings and moments, so silence never feels empty. And it's cool seeing Lee Sung Kyung's range between the two!!
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Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 7:35 AM
Oooh, love that use of “full” here. I totally see what you mean.
One of the things that I also feel connects these dramas—and this is a big leap, so I hope you’ll bear with me—is that the MLs in both dramas LOOK SO DIFFERENT when they smile from when they’re being serious. You can see it all in one drama for Kim Young-dae In Sh**ting Stars, but comparing the face of Kim Young-kwang in Call It Love to his silliness in Hello, Me!…it’s like night and day, IMO!
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June 3, 2023 at 8:56 AM
YES that's so true!!! I don't have as much to compare with Kim Young Dae, since my only other drama of his is Extra-Ordinary You, but Kim Young Kwang has been a favorite for a while. He's excellent in Call it Love, but my favorite role for him is actually Hello, Me! (That's one of my top-five dramas!!) There was just so much good character growth in that one, and KYK's character goes through such a lovely maturing process in it. He does comedy so well, but always with pathos, and switches between the silly and the serious believably.
dramalover4ever
June 4, 2023 at 12:50 AM
I hope you love Sword Snow Stride as much as I did.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 4, 2023 at 5:21 AM
I'm really enjoying it! It seems more natural and "real" because there's comparatively little CGI, and so much is filmed outdoors with natural light (and it's hard for me to tell for sure, but I think it's undubbed and I really like that!). I'm on episode 14 and the ML has just leveled up, and they're going on a new quest, and it's getting more interesting! I really like the ML actor, and have Joy of Life on my list, too (especially since S2 is now in production).
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10 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 5:20 AM
Race
Loved that the bar was finally busy and that we are beginning to see things come together in the office power play. The Yoonjo and Jaemin love life complications remind me of More than friends and Jealousy Incarnate where the FL tries a relationship with the other guy and despite them being lovely are pulled back to the one they really love.
The Good Bad Mother
It was harder to watch this week as I really struggled with Samshik trying to constantly solve his problems by scamming someone rather than explaining to his parents what has happened, especially when he had been given money.
I look forward to seeing how this will tie up as the gangster politician and gangster wanna be baseball player need something big to tie them into the murder and corruption so they can be removed from threatening Kangho and his little family. This will take a lot because of their links with people in high places who consistently keep them from facing the consequences of their actions so they need a One dollar lawyer style take down.
Oh! Youngshim
These kinds of dramas where people get involved in things that don’t concern them annoy me. When Wolsok started to get involved and was ordering people around to play games at the office retreat they should have just refused to play. She has so little power and yet because people go along with her game playing she gets away with it. I just want to know where her partner is if she is such a pro at dating.
Definitely not today - Chinese
8 short episodes about two people who meet when they are at death’s door. Quite explicit story about suicide partly based on a true story.
Completed
One Day off
I cried in episode 7 it was so sweet and so sad. I loved this drama and wonder if it will get a second season since that seems to be the way things are going these days. I don’t know if there is a big enough market for this kind of web drama slice of life because it is very different to the other slow paced dramas that have longer episodes and run times.
Nagi’s long vacation - Japanese
A drama about finding oneself, and becoming part of a community. Nagi was the Queen of T-shirts that made statements. One had the Playboy bunny, it always surprises me when I see women wearing anything with the Playboy symbol on it. She was showcasing the extremes of minimalism so I was surprised that it had made it into her select wardrobe.
Thanks for the recommendation Lixie, an enjoyable watch about finding herself.
Audio Books:
Tales told at night in Kamusari by Shion Miura.
The second in the series of the young man settling into life in a Japanese village in the mountains and working in Forestry.
The sound of waves by Yukio Mishima
Life in a small Japanese fishing village after the war
Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zeven
Friends who develop PC games, and the challenges they face over the lifetime of their friendship disability, death, trust and miscommunication key themes.
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 5:49 AM
I discovered Takahashi Issei thanks to Nagi's Long Vacation. I then watched and loved Bokura wa Kiseki de Dekiteiru when he plays a university lecturer.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 5:58 AM
Thanks I will add to the watch list.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 4, 2023 at 1:49 AM
I am on episode 4 of Miracles and the male lead and female lead dynamic remind me of the doctor and male lead in He who can not marry.
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Dorotka
June 4, 2023 at 2:17 AM
I haven't seen that one, thus can't say.
I liked his unique approach and how that forces other people to reconsider their opinions... and life...
(And I liked the show perhaps more as I'm a teacher as well.)
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 4, 2023 at 2:24 AM
He who can’t marry annoyed me a lot it’s from 2006 so it may just be the era as some dramas don’t age well. There is a Korean version which I have not watched.
It is interesting how the class went from being bored before the field trip to seeing the class differently afterwards and noticing he was finishing on time when usually they couldn’t get out the door quick enough.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 6, 2023 at 1:41 AM
Thanks for the recommendation. I finished Miracles it was an interesting story reminding us of the influence we all have on each other and the importance of letting our light shine. I love Japanese dramas with their short series runs that tend to have very little padding.
Do you think the mum’s ‘friend’ was so he would not be worried when she needed a break, he would know she would always return from those visits? Was it to teach him what friends do for each other or not to worry that she would be lonely? It’s definitely a mystery😆
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Lixie
June 3, 2023 at 11:49 AM
I'm glad you liked Nagi's vacation!
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spazmo
June 3, 2023 at 12:04 PM
T&T&T was a good read! i actually listened to it on audiobook, then bought the book. am listening to The Tale of Genji on audiobook (thank gawd, cuz the book is over 1000 pages??)... i had to read it in high school for an Asian Lit class - guess we read just one chapter or something. had no idea the book was so huge, nor did i remember anything - of course, i would doze off with boredom in that class...
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spazmo
June 3, 2023 at 4:55 PM
35 hours of listening on part one. 37 hours on part two... i'm on part two now.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 10:44 PM
Is it an actual story, how can there be a part two after 35 hours?! Surely, that’s longer than War and Peace. I love a long listen, if it’s good. For some random reason my audiobook sample went for the introduction which is about context setting of the piece rather than a clip of the actual story. So I can’t assess the story which is annoying. I didn’t like the Chinese historical book The Pillow book that was turned into a drama on radio 4. I think it was probably cultural appropriation where they took bits of the original and then added a murder mystery element.
Me and the narrator will be firm friends after that length of time as he seems to be the go to for Japanese books and has narrated most if not all of the recent ones I have listened to.
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spazmo
June 4, 2023 at 10:25 AM
oh yeah, the first 90 minutes of part one was an "introduction" that explains the context, etc... the chapters move "fast" (so unlike the intro), i guess i mean things happen in each chapter that the story somehow doesn't drag...
i totally forgot that Genji was such a prolific lover, if that's the right term... well, in those days the royalty had many wives and consorts...
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 4, 2023 at 11:22 AM
Thank you, I will order it and see how I get on, if its too graphic with the relationships I won’t be finishing it.
spazmo
June 4, 2023 at 8:12 PM
no, no graphic descriptions - just indications of women being his lovers. it's very poetic in its language, people send notes in poem form - so it's rather pretty. like japanese shakespeare?
Linarrick
June 3, 2023 at 8:20 PM
@Reply 1988 where did you watch One Day Off?
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pari
June 4, 2023 at 11:10 PM
I had the same question.
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11 indyfan
June 3, 2023 at 5:22 AM
I've been on a month-plus drama sabbatical (travel). Thanks to recaps and beanie comments, I've decided to catch up on Dr Cha, not resume Bora, and start My Perfect Stranger. Next, Race. One Day Off will be saved for the right moment. I won't mention the many shows that Beanies have persuaded me to not even start.
The first two episodes of MPS really pulled me into the FL's story. Oh, the mom guilt! Also, I read Please Look After Mom during my travels. It was overdone, but still, sob, sob, mom, sniffle, sob.
I'm also looking fwd to Hearbeat, See You in My 19th Life, and King, the Land thanks to Beanie chatter. And I learned a promo with Junho can garner more comments than the finale of many shows!
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June 3, 2023 at 5:35 AM
‘ Also, I read Please Look After Mom during my travels. It was overdone, but still, sob, sob, mom, sniffle, sob 👈🏾 the writer has an interesting writing style but it was so sad.
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12 welh
June 3, 2023 at 5:28 AM
DR. CHA (Ep 13-14): There were so many embarrassing public disclosures of characters' private facts to fill out a weekender bingo trope card. There are about a dozen hanging story lines that need to be sewn together in the next two episodes, not least of which is Cha's own life, family and career. Despite the chaos, everything sets up for a fairly predictable finale.
ONE DAY OFF (Ep. 1-4): What a nice slice-of-life diary of a burnt out school teacher who uses her day off to explore, experience and re-charge herself with day trips. She is smart but introverted; practical but a dreamer. When learn about her as she learns about herself. It is small, quiet flowing stream of introspection which is unique in the k-drama space. I find the pace, acting, direction and subject matter excellent.
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13 StacyA
June 3, 2023 at 5:47 AM
Watched the Jdrama Silent, which was a really nice piece on the ML's growth and acceptance of his hearing loss. Was hoping for just a little more from the romance, but I knew going in there wasn't even one kiss so I was prepared. Decided to rewatch Hoshi Furu Noru Yi because it more than makes up for the lack of kisses in Silent :D
On ep 14 of Cdrama Find Yourself. The SML is annoying; he's supposed to be only 5 years older than the FL, but he looks like he's the same age as her parents. The FL is annoying me a good bit right now too.
Still keeping up with Back to the Brink and enjoying the heck out of it. It's full of flaws but I really don't care, I love it.
Started Fight For My Way and enjoying it so far.
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June 3, 2023 at 6:02 AM
‘ The SML is annoying; he's supposed to be only 5 years older than the FL, but he looks like he's the same age as her parents.’👈🏾😆 his controlling behaviour and her brother’s attitude to women were both really annoying for me and I nearly walked away because of them both I thought the brother’s story would go a different way so I hung in there for that.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 3, 2023 at 6:04 AM
Find yourself - LOL! The uncle.
I quite enjoyed the drama. SWL looked good with his moles and deep V shirts.
FL - it takes a little warming up and accepting her but overall I did like her character.
I shd add Back to Brink to my watch list.
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spazmo
June 3, 2023 at 4:57 PM
Silent was a bit frustrating to me also... but on the whole i liked it. needed a change from the mean makjang backstabbing revenge kdrama stuff... there's too much violence/revenge/hoitytoity bullying stuff these days.
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spazmo
June 3, 2023 at 4:58 PM
oh, but for a funny one -- watch My Brush Up Life!!!
groundhog day, japanese style. really funny!
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john
June 3, 2023 at 5:18 PM
My Brush Up Life
Lovely drama .
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StacyA
June 3, 2023 at 5:28 PM
Thanks for the recommendation! Nothing but good reviews on MDL.
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spazmo
June 3, 2023 at 9:19 PM
oh, one more...
Suteki na Sen TAXI with Takenouchi Yutaka.
he is a DEADPAN riot... it's kooky fun!
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StacyA
June 4, 2023 at 5:48 AM
Thanks! Added to my watch list.
14 Kurama
June 3, 2023 at 5:59 AM
Oh! Young-shim I thought that it will be easy to turn a Kdrama about dating show and fake relationship into a good rom-com. But it's the second one and it's still meh.
My Perfect Stranger I really like this one. I like the family relationships, the mystery and the relationship between the leads. It would have been nice if the romance between the leads took a bigger place instead of the parents one. But I like them, they're confortable and cute together.
Delightfully Deceitful For once, it's the FL who is the genius!
Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim 3 How long they will lure us with Kang Dong‑joo's appearance?
Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938 I'm sad that I'm not more invested in Rang's love relationship because I don't like the actress.
Race I like the development of each character and their relationship.
One Day Off I didn't watch the last ones yet.
Bitch X Rich I wanted to cheer for the FL but not wearing things that are not yours is kinda a basic and simple rule of courtesy.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
June 3, 2023 at 6:05 AM
I am starting to FF Rang love line. It’s really sad.
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Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 7:15 AM
More for me then?!? Is that how watching works?
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15 john
June 3, 2023 at 6:05 AM
K drama
Good Bad Mother
Kang Ho and Sam-Shik open a BBQ restaurant
How to tie up murders, political corruption , etc. without losing sight of Mi-joo and the twins.
Waiting for new dramas
J dramas
First Love: Hatsukoi More amnesia !
Hikari Mitsushima & Rikako Yagi 🥰
Lots of product placement,
Finished J drama Kitchen Knife and Green Chili Pepper
I wonder if they’ll do a 2nd season as it had an open ending.
Other stuff
Nicholas Nickleby (1947) I thoroughly enjoyed this.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 6:07 AM
‘ Kang Ho and Sam-Shik open a BBQ restaurant’ 👈🏾love it🤣
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john
June 3, 2023 at 3:14 PM
Watched a cute movie, Princess Caraboo(1994) .
Based on actual events, an enterprising young lass passed herself as a princess who had been kidnapped by pirates ! It lasted about 10 weeks before she was found out.
Stars Phoebe Cates her hubby Kevin Kline
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Minka
June 4, 2023 at 1:05 AM
LOL! And noble idiocy. But somehow it worked. I still liked this drama.
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16 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
June 3, 2023 at 6:06 AM
Tale of the Nine-Tailed 1938: 9.0 Those PPL scenes of course were brilliant. The rest of days 7 & 8 were pretty good but still dragged the score down a bit -- it doesn't take much to mar perfection.
Doctor Romantic 3: 7.0 Once you are past the incision close-ups and the strictly medical tension, show is 59.014% lame plot contrivances. I've never liked to watch obnoxious characters like the politician & her aides so that whole plot line was a liability to the show trhu day 10. Not sure what to thing of her day 11 turn, but at least we didn't have to put up with her aides.
Delightfully Deceitful: 7.5 Give me a while to decide what I think of the story. Parts are great but the excessive empathy & obligatory childhood connection are not good signs. Hoping they make it live up to the alternate title "Beneficial Fraud" with her helping him win other cases, but so far it smells like a routine murder/revenge story originating from a special school that mistreated kids long ago. Seen enough of those.
My Perfect
MysteryStranger: 8.0Bitch X Rich: 4.0 Bullying. Rich people being jerks. "Protagonists" lying themselves into awkward situations. These are a few of my least favorite things. Bye.
Happiness Battle: 3.0 Wall to wall rich people being snobs. The synopsis says there well be a death, but it needed to come sooner if they wanted to keep my interest. Out at 11 min 35 seconds.
So I'm in a bit of a drama slump, especially Wed/Thu, and I'm spending the extra time on Perun's Youtube channel rewatching defense/economics powerpoint slideshows and eagerly awaiting Sunday's new release.
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17 Midnight
June 3, 2023 at 6:13 AM
PUNCH rewatch on hold, watching ARE YOU HUMAN TOO very slowly. Both because of real life, and also because the story doesn't make me care about the main leads.
I'm actually only curious about the real Shin. I would have had finished this in 2 days if it had been the story of Shin and his Shadow.
As it is, it looks more like a playground for Seo Kang Joon. It isn't bad, but not addicting either.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 3, 2023 at 9:34 AM
SKJ is by far the best thing about that show. I started FF'ing through some of the subsidiary plotlines, like Dad's gym and the corporate scheming about the car, and didn't feel like I'd lost anything. I'll be interested to hear what you think about the ending (if you don't already know where they end up).
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Midnight
June 3, 2023 at 9:47 AM
I don't. I'll let you know.
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Midnight
June 6, 2023 at 9:25 PM
I finished AYHT with a lot of help from the recaps in later episodes.
I had wished for a lot more bromance and conflict but there sadly wasn't. I thought things would get better when the real Shin wakes up, but it got worse because his whole point was you stole my life!? Why did nobody think of giving Shin3 a new face?
I read through the recaps and the only scenes I wished to watch were LJH's scenes but I honestly couldn't bother any longer😅
I didn't like the ending. Both because of the unnecessary fake-death-and-back, and because of the pairing. Maybe it's because I'm too practical, but I don't find these types of pairings romantic at all. It would have been better if he hadn't come back. At least that way I could accept that she couldn't help falling for him, but to actually going on with it and people accepting it? That takes me out of the moment completely.
I hope I haven't been too hard and disappointed you.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 6, 2023 at 10:59 PM
I agree with you completely! The characters relentlessly failing to make very obvious good decisions - like changing Shin's face - got tiring. I found the ending and especially the so-called OTP pairing REALLY off-putting. I never liked the FL anyway, so I guess it's no worse than she deserved. 😆
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Midnight
June 7, 2023 at 12:31 AM
Exactly 😆 Thank god we agree 😂
18 wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 6:13 AM
Rainless Love in a Godless Land: The execution of this was often messy, and it felt more logistically complicated than it needed to be, but I don't think I've ever seen a show explore the ways that reality affects belief and belief affects reality with such nuance and care.
One Day Off: Through 5 episodes, this is a quirky, thoughtful show that rewards careful viewing.
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19 ar_arguably romantic
June 3, 2023 at 6:24 AM
Delightfully Deceitful: I'm a little hooked. The comedy was a lot less than I expected (mostly brought on by the characters' interactions with Yoon Park's delightfully obnoxious character), but I still enjoyed it. Not available on anything that I can subscribe to so I'm not sure how long I will continue with it. I have a higher bar for enjoyment when I have to stream it through less official sources.
The Real has Come: YES! Yeon-doo telling the family off! The confession of feelings!! I'm also enjoying having a cohabitation storyline with Se-jin's dad and Yeon-doo's mom. You usually don't get this with older adults. I'm starting to FF through Se-jin's parts to preserve my sanity.
Back from the Brink (up to ep 24): Some wtf-ery around episodes 16 and 17, which undoes character and relationship setup and development from the first 15 episodes. But there are consequences at least, so I'm not too angry. Still very watchable! Despite the plotting getting inane sometimes, I do like the characters for the most part and their interactions. The actors also portray them well.
A Love so Romantic (up to ep 11): Had this low production quality chinese costume web series playing in the background. You really need only half your attention span and you can predict and follow along everything without watching subtitles closely. Employer-employee contract turned brother-sister contract. I'm in it for the entertaining imagination sequences that pop up every now and then.
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20 amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 6:38 AM
Dr. Cha (2023): It will be interesting to see how this ends. If anyone needs a little extra Dr. Roy, I found the actor (Min Wook Hyuk) very charming in Love with Flaws.
9 Tailed 1938 (2023). I just finished episode 6. Kim So-Yeon continues to dazzle. Lots of fun overall. The translation says that they are "demons" is that the correct/best word for our foxes and many of the characters?
Giant (2010): This is really my kind of watch. I'm up to episode 33. With all that scheming and revenge its a wonder that the characters have time to get through the day. I just keep hitting that play button. A great binge so far. I'm having fun counting all the actors that appear in this and Empress Ki.
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john
June 3, 2023 at 7:08 AM
Yay, Giant ! That must have been some crazy times.
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 7:48 AM
The rise of modern Seoul/Korea, political upheaval, corruption, social change. Such a dynamic time that is relatively recent. Giant really has it all!
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john
June 3, 2023 at 8:42 AM
The corruption regarding land and development in dramas covering that era ! Recently, Oasis featured some in their story.
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 9:36 AM
Was Oasis good? I was thinking of watching Youth of May (i think that is the correct name)---political overlap to Giant.
john
June 3, 2023 at 9:45 AM
Was Oasis good 🤔
It had some 🙄moments and some 🥰moments
Average
It has the NIS baddies , thugs, corrupt pols
One Sided Obsessed Love Triangle seriously hampered story
FL character shined, stayed true to her man 💕
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john
June 3, 2023 at 9:49 AM
Sandglass is good if you can find it.
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 9:54 AM
I've been wanting to watch Sandglass for ages. I haven't found it on a legal site---Maybe I'll try again to find it.
john
June 3, 2023 at 10:03 AM
I had to search for Sandglass and that was several years ago.
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Snow Flower
June 3, 2023 at 10:06 AM
I put Giant on hold last week and finished The Secret Romantic Guesthouse. Now I am back to Giant, up to Episode 12. I am OK with adult Kang Mo, but can't get the adult Sung Mo. The scheming construction company directors might as well be ministers with funny hats in a sageuk. Empress Ki was written by the same writers.
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 10:32 AM
That's exactly how I see them, ministers without funny hats and beards! It is hard to keep track at times of the different corruption schemes and schemers! I also find Sung Mo hard to get---but I don't want to ruin anything for you. He is very much like Empress Ki (the character). Such a different watch then The Secret Romantic Guesthouse!!! Hope you enjoy!! It's fun to know someone else watching this!!!!
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Snow Flower
June 3, 2023 at 7:50 PM
The Lee brothers are brilliant strategists, each in his own way. Yet it never occurred to either one to run an ad in the newspaper in order to find each other. The tension is killing me and I love it!
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 8:07 PM
Ha! I have more to say on this, but I don't want to spoil!!!!
21 TurtuallySarcastic
June 3, 2023 at 7:18 AM
Fruits Basket (2019) Season 3🍙🐈(13/13): What a gem. Words fail me, but this is a story I will treasure forever and will probably rewatch if I ever find the English dub. Not that anyone can top Kyo’s voice actor for that matter. I think I am taking a break from anime and cartoons for a bit, or they will lose the comparison with Fruits Basket! At the same time, it took my friend and I four months to watch all three seasons and now I am ready to move on to another fictional adventure!
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22 Asha13
June 3, 2023 at 7:23 AM
With the shows I am watching ending soon - Dr cha, the bad bad mother - I am rewatching hospital playlist - my happy place - and looking for something new to watch
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23 Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 7:42 AM
What I have watched:
_ Mini drama Two Lights: Relumino. It was short but nice and different.
_ KBS Drama Special If we were a season. Nor bad nor very good. A "coming of age" story with a love triangle and some tropes.
_ Western series "Rabbit Hole". Quite entertaining. It's open to another season.
What I am watching:
_ Meteor Garden (C-drama. 2018) (27 out of 49). Totally hooked to this "trashtastic"(credits to @sicarius) show. Sometimes it gets on my nerves, and FL rarely is sincere with her feelings. But this is like a "telenovela", and these are usual things in this kind of series.
_ Good Manager (8 out of 20). I was thinking of dropping this drama, but since episode 6 I'm laughing more, so I'll keep watching.
Reads: first volumen (Spanish Edition) of manga "Tokyo Revengers". I have not watched the anime. I don't particularly like the drawings style but the story is interesting.
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wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 7:55 AM
I loved Good Manager, but I think it's a show where the humor either lands for you or doesn't. I personally very much enjoyed the ever-expanding misfit office gang.
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Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 8:07 AM
The humor is not totally working for me, but when it does, it makes me laugh.
I notice this is written by Vincenzo's scriptwriter, but I think I like the humor more in Good Manager.
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wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 9:02 AM
Good Manager is definitely my favorite show by this screenwriter - it has the same wacky humor and found family dynamics as Vincenzo and The Fiery Priest without the bone-crunching violence.
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HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
June 3, 2023 at 9:15 AM
That's a really compelling comparison!! I skipped Vincenzo because of the violence, but LOVED The Fiery Priest, so I'm bumping Good Manager up on my watchlist!
Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 10:31 AM
The Fiery Priest is on my watchlist too, but only for Kim Nam Gil.
I'm afraid the humor won't work completely for me.
Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 10:38 AM
See, I dropped Fiery Priest pretty fast because I couldn’t see how I would ever come to care about these characters.
Also, in reading this thread, apart from that hostess bar scene in episode 19 of Good Manager, I now realize that I don’t think of it as “funny.” I think both MLs (and I think there are two) characters are relatively tragic, frankly.
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Midnight
June 3, 2023 at 10:49 AM
The Good Manager is one of my top ten favorite shows ever, I have rewatched it hundreds of times.
But! I HATED The Fiery Priest. I only finished it for KNG and Go Joon. But I hated it to the very end.
I also dropped Vincenzo after a few episodes. I might pick it back up sometime for Taec and Kwak Dong Yun, but I'm not sure.
Bottom line, I rarely rely on screenwriters past works.
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thimble
June 3, 2023 at 8:29 AM
But I feel so left out! The humor in GM totally didn't land for me. Maybe try again sometime in a different mood.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 10:07 AM
Humour is very subjective so don’t worry about it, walk away. I didn’t like most of the humour in Welcome to Waikiki I watched it all through as I didn’t drop dramas then but it was a waste of my time.
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Minka
June 4, 2023 at 1:19 AM
I have only watched episode 1 of Welcome To Waikiki and the scenes with Park Sung-woong had me cracking up. But I had a feeling that that would be the only thing hilarious in the show, and for some reason I did not like the cinematography (it was giving me old sitcom vibes) so I did not continue. But I really enjoyed that 1 episode.
Isa is always time travelling
June 4, 2023 at 3:12 AM
I only watched the first two episodes of Waikiki. I laughed but I thought everything was quite over the top too.
Maybe someday I'll retake it.
Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 10:25 AM
I get lots of second hand embarrassment watching GM and it is not something good. Sometimes I still think I should drop it, but other moments I laugh 😅
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Midnight
June 3, 2023 at 10:51 AM
I think you should drop it with a clean conscience 😊
Minka
June 4, 2023 at 1:11 AM
I am with you Thimble, really.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 9:03 AM
‘Mini drama Two Lights: Relumino. It was short but nice and different.’ 👈🏾 we watched it in our Watch and Discuss Korean Drama club and loved it too. Turns out it was an advert for the Relumino product. The only other long advert I have seen was 7 first kisses which was for Lotte duty free shop
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Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 10:35 AM
I had no idea it was an advert! But now that you mention it, it makes sense.
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24 thimble
June 3, 2023 at 8:18 AM
Is it my imagination, or is Viki turning into a C-drama channel? I don't see much that much new Korean on the horizen.
THE REAL HAS COME: Ep 1. Written and acted by AI? Is this worth continuing with?
ONE DAY OFF: A+++ Eps 5-8. A drama cut from a different cloth. By leaving behind the noise of her life in the big city, she gets little glimpses of clarity. Out in the countryside, ordinary objects take on bold colors and lines are sharply etched. I especially loved the episode about a bakery tour of Jeju that turned into a search for the exact bread that reminded a little girl of her mother.
MY LOVELY SAM-SOON: First watched this a couple of hundred Kdramas ago, but on re-watching realize that I way under-appreciated it. While the ML could’ve been played by any number of good looking guys, it’s Kim Su-nah’s’ Sam-soon that is the heart and soul of this show, a woman of steely determination, a rock of common sense, but far from stony. She’s deeply vulnerable, even while not taking crap from anybody. Sometimes I want to yell at her while heartbroken on her behalf.
I love the side characters like her crazy mother and sister, and the timing of funny scenes like the rhythmic reappearance of the same blind date guy. Somewhere along the way, the show breaks out of its romcom shell and takes flight, becoming a more ambitious story about living life in the present, risking more pain, taking chances despite not knowing if things are going to work out.
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PYC
June 3, 2023 at 9:04 AM
Kim Sam Soon stands the test of the time. I couldn’t recall our having another similar female character since then.
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indyfan
June 3, 2023 at 9:10 AM
"Written and acted by AI?" LOL. That will become the new go-to diss until AI catches up and rules us all.
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rambutan
June 3, 2023 at 9:21 AM
KSS is a classic and it will always have a special place in my drama heart.
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amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 9:51 AM
I loved My Lovely Sam Soon. I've noticed that Viki has not been getting many new kdramas and it has more c-drama content now. For a while I thought they might move towards having more older dramas (k-dramas) as newer dramas were mostly showing up on bigger platforms. I'm wondering if Viki can even survive in this world of competing big streaming sites. I'm worried.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 9:59 AM
‘I'm wondering if Viki can even survive in this world of competing big streaming sites’ 👈🏾 it has too! A K drama world without Viki would be terrible😞
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 3:19 PM
I concur, it would be very sad, especially when Viki subtitles are amazing (especially the ones that go the extra mile to provide context or further information!). Even things like the cute little names that the subtitling team comes up with for themselves for each drama, usually based on some kind of inside joke or reference to the drama, is so cute!!
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 3, 2023 at 6:05 PM
Viki added a bunch of older kdramas recently and it looked like a desperation move to make their catalog seem more impressive and maybe attract viewers with sheer volume, but that's a not a sustainable strategy - the backlog of pre-2015 dramas is not going to increase, of course, and a lot of what they added are pretty bad shows.
My favorite sub team name: Team Cassiopeia for W: Two Worlds (the constellation looks like a giant 'W').
amfalulawatching
June 3, 2023 at 8:02 PM
I came to viki after the end of dramafever. I loved that it has/had many older dramas and has brought in more of them. I'm not sure of the why to this strategy, but it worked for me. I like that it is more of a community then any of the other platforms including the reviews and the translations. But, in the last few months they have been reducing the number of dramas--many on my watchlist just disappeared without warning. Some, just came up as unavailable in region, also without warning. The sudden increase in Chinese dramas is also recent. It will be hard to access older dramas legally if it doesn't survive since I don't see Netflix/Amazon etc. keeping many of them available. Hmmm.
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bbstl 🧹
June 3, 2023 at 10:04 AM
Thanks for writing about your appreciation for Kim Sam Soon, my most beloved kdrama. I fear it doesn’t resonate with many any more because it seems dated but this is the show that broke the mold and set so many tropes. I dearly love her ability to get her heart broken and still meet the world with an open heart. Sam Soon is still goals for me ❤️❤️❤️
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Isa is always time travelling
June 3, 2023 at 10:40 AM
"Is it my imagination, or is Viki turning into a C-drama channel? I don't see much that much new Korean on the horizen".
It's not your imagination. I have noticed it too. Lots of k-dramas are unavailable in my zone (Europe), even shows that were available some weeks ago, now aren't.
However there are hundreds of C-dramas.
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Dorotka
June 3, 2023 at 10:50 AM
There is a reason Samsoon is my avatar... 😍💕
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antonio83
June 3, 2023 at 2:13 PM
And God bless them for favoring Chinese products! I went from 70% K, 25% China, 5% Western depravity to 80% China, 15% K, 5% Western depravity.
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 3:17 PM
Not just you about Viki's catalogue (I'm glad I'm not the only one recognising this trend though!) - I was literally saying to a friend the other day that my C-drama spiral has been enabled so much by the fact that Viki has every C-drama I search up and then some, compared to k-dramas most of which aren't available in my region/there doesn't seem to be much on the upcoming catalogue either.
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amfalulawatching
June 4, 2023 at 6:06 AM
This is a link to an article that (2022) that says viki signed a contract with tencent video (a chinese company) to feature chinese dramas. This is probably the cause of the increase in chinese shows, but doesn't explain the decrease in korean shows.
https://variety.com/2022/global/news/rakuten-viki-china-tencent-video-1235418135/
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thimble
June 4, 2023 at 8:32 AM
Thanks for this link. It explains to me the "Ten Cent Zone" category that popped up on Viki last year, where I puzzled over the all-Chinese offerings.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 4, 2023 at 9:14 AM
Thanks that would explain it what’s going on with K drama channels how come they are happy to go with Disney+ which limits the access to an Asian zone audience only when surely they would want to be reaching a more global market.
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25 MikeyD signed up
June 3, 2023 at 8:25 AM
I'm surprised Dramabeans hasn't written anything about the last 4 episodes of 'One Day Off' after having covered the first 4 so enthusiastically.
'Delightfully Deceptive', in the first two episodes, looked promising. I get the concept of teaming up an overly empathetic character with one who cannot feel empathy. Lets see where it goes.
'Oh! Yougsim' is a pleasant enough low-intellectual-effort watch.
I'm stalled watching 'Love Between Fairy and Devil' for no other reason than THERE ARE SO MANY EPISODES! I feel I've already watched 2 dramas and I have so many more episodes still to go.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 8:54 AM
If you look at the bottom of the page it tells you what’s coming next and One day off is next. Sometimes the order changes but if its on the what we are covering list then all episodes are covered.
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26 hacja
June 3, 2023 at 8:43 AM
Since we’ve now passed the first six -months of the year, I tallied up my shows, and not including my watching of older shows (10) and Japanese romances (5) I’ve completed 17 of the kdramas released in 2023. (I’ve started and dropped about 10 others, including, sad to say, 4 that are running right now.) Although most of the shows have had a happy ending, I’ve been struck by an overall grim tone throughout, even in the so called rom-coms. One of the two shows I’m watching this week kind of fits this pattern, although I’m enjoying it. The other, though, was very different.
Thanks to @dramaaddictally for her enthusiastic and thoughtful review, I watched One Day Off and completed it last night. It really is a charming, thought provoking episodic drama. Yes, you have to be in a certain mood—you don’t want to go into it hoping the character played by Lee Na Young is thirsty for revenge. But her encounters are little mini-stories in themselves, very poignant and approachable. Plus, if you are a pseudo-intellectual like me, you can bore friends and family by expounding on the deep themes in each episode, and there are some pretty profound themes in this drama, that appear without being preachy or ponderous. The latter is what my explanation adds!
Speaking of poignant stories, I’m still watching a show that is a LOT less profound, but surprisingly engaging to me, My Perfect Stranger. Yes, it’s a derivative time travel murder mystery that might end with a thud. But so far its kept me guessing. Also, it has a theme that as a parent I really appreciate -- learning about and finally understanding your parents. Maybe I should make my adult children watch it and they would shed a few tears rather than always hopping into time travel cars to go back to the 80s to try to prevent me from dating the woman who would become my wife.
I actually wept a bit myself these last episodes, averting my face from my wife so I wouldn’t have to confess that “this absurd serial killer mystery that features a time traveling Hyundai is making me cry.” Hyundais have made me cry before, but because of their repair bills, not emotional associations. I was never very elated by my Elantra, but maybe that was because I didn’t pay extra for the time-travel option!
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Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 9:04 AM
I’ve been avoiding My Perfect Stranger because of the hints that there is a surprising level of interpersonal violence. I’m intrigued by the parental themes, though…would you recommend it to someone who can deal with angst, but would rather not see people physically hurting one another for extended periods of time??
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hacja
June 3, 2023 at 10:07 AM
Of course since its a murder mystery there are occasional shots of the victims, but so far there have only been 3 of them, and they are shown quickly. The one scene that I think someone mentions above is the police torture scene in episode 9. It is in some ways gratuitous--I think its primarily there to show the depth of loyalty to the character's brother, that he won't reveal his location regardless of the abuse. But It can easily be fast forwarded through, without missing anything. Other than that, its not one of those gruesome murder mysteries. Except for the torture scene there are no scenes that made me cringe, and I'm a pretty sensitive guy!
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27 Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 3, 2023 at 8:56 AM
Current/recent:
My Perfect Stranger: Could we please move the mysteries along? And I want to see what happens when the damned car finally gets fixed!
Older stuff:
Stranger (Forest of Secrets) 1: Perfect. Just perfect. As perfect as Jo Seung-woo’s hair (which is perfect).
Be Melodramatic: If you'd told me I would love a show with an entire episode about farting, capped off with an upbeat OST about poop smells, I'd have said you were crazy. I’d be hard-pressed to pick a favorite moment - the massage chair PPL! The radio-controlled car pulling the FL in a wagon! The snippy head writer who turns into a bunny! Sohn Seok-ku being weird as hell washing dishes! I have a feeling there are lots of other little things to catch on rewatch, because there was just So Much Goodness.
Someday or One Day (Taiwan 2019): I fought this show all the way through ep. 8 (of 13), loving the time travel and most of the cast but - minority opinion- unable to accept Alice Ke as a high-schooler. (Go ahead, call me shallow, her acting is terrific but the wildly unflattering hairstyles that made her look about 40 hurt my eyes and took me right out of every HS scene.) The later timelines were great, but there weren’t enough of them. It was also so slow. And then ep. 9 finally arrived to grab me by the wrist, strap me into the rollercoaster, and take off for a hell of a ride. Wow. So glad I stuck with it.
Eun-joo’s Room: Trying this again now that I’ve found acceptable video quality on a different darkside site (although the subs suck). It’s an easy, relaxing watch that makes me feel like it’s a tiny victory every time my bathroom sink doesn’t fall off the wall.
Nine: Nine Time Travels: Just started; since I was already in one time-travel wormhole, I might as well continue down another.
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wonhwa
June 3, 2023 at 9:07 AM
Stranger and Someday or One Day - two of my favorite shows ever!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 9:07 AM
‘ I’d be hard-pressed to pick a favorite moment’ 👈🏾 genuinely too many; the random guitar playing and the pointed aigoo scene…
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A. McG.
June 3, 2023 at 10:03 AM
My favorite aigoo scene in all of Kdrama.
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Seon-ha
June 3, 2023 at 9:12 AM
SO.DARN.PERFECT.
And, given this, I will put Be Melo back on my list. I will try out the Beanie Superpower of persistence in the face of a setup that clearly belies the humor of the rest of the drama.
[If that HTML tag works for me here, it’ll be a miracle. And if it doesn’t I’m gonna laugh real hard.]
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 3, 2023 at 9:58 AM
It worked! 🏅🎉💐😂
Yes, the first two episodes of Be Melo were sadder than the rest, but the show has an amazing ability to balance sadness, lightness, and romance better than any actual melodrama I've seen while viewing them all through a lens of absurd humor.
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A. McG.
June 3, 2023 at 10:10 AM
The first episodes were sad but I found it to be realistic since one of the gals was going through grief and loss of a loved one. And how she's supported by the others, and that there's hope for her to love again with that odd CF director made me love this show.
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Seon-ha
June 5, 2023 at 9:12 AM
OMG. Floods of tears are running down my cheeks, “Did you watch Interstellar??? ‘Dad! Don’t go…STAY!!!!’”
Thanks for the nudge, @elinor and the rest of the beanie crew.
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MikeyD signed up
June 3, 2023 at 9:22 PM
Be Melo has the advantage, now, of several of the actors making it big since the series aired. Jeon Yeo-bin in Vincenzo, Son Seok-ku in My liberation Notes, etc. So now you watch it a exclaim 'I saw her in Money Heist Korea!' or 'I saw him in Do You Like Brahms!'
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28 rambutan
June 3, 2023 at 9:19 AM
Still on repeat watch of Till the End of the Moon. Don't ask me how many times. This is the only drama I've watched in the past 4 months ( while tramping around South America). Glad I wasn't influenced by Avenue X's ranting ( I liked Leo and BaiLu in Love is Sweet.) TTEOTM drew me in from the first episode and by the second, I was addicted. I am glad the drama is only 40 episodes and not 56. The pace was breathtaking and not once did I use the fast forward button. TTEOTM is easily among my Top 3 of all Chinese costume dramas, not only Xanxia. I like the drama for all the reasons already cited. Leo is utterly mesmerising. Bailu is my favourite actress. The fight scenes are unmatchable. I love the OST. etc. etc.
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 3:07 PM
I absolutely loved TTEOTM too but my heart not ready just yet for a rewatch! I'm not sure if it was here or somewhere else, but someone made a comment about how they'd left the Dylan Wang train to settle completely on the Leo Luo train instead, and that was me too, post TTEOTM, he is so mesmerising!!! (Love u still though Dylan).
And yes Bai Lu!! She literally has insane chemistry with just about anyone she's opposite, what a fantastic actor, I sped run through a few of her projects while watching TTEOTM (Legends was a mess, especially at the end, but she and Xu Kai are the saving grace in that drama)
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 3:09 PM
Oh and also, wow South America trip, that sounds super fun!! How did you find it/what were the highlights?!
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rambutan
June 3, 2023 at 11:34 PM
6 countries - Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, Peru and Mexico. Bolivia surprisingly (we almost bypassed this country) being the most exciting/best country to visit (must do the 3 days and 2 nights driving in a guided 4WD across the salt plains between Uyuni and San Pedro de Atacama) and Argentina and Buenos Aires the best food and city respectively. La Paz city is a close second.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 11:46 PM
Sounds like an epic trip. Thanks for these highlights 😊
Gikata
June 3, 2023 at 6:55 PM
Dylan is our baby boy devil, but LYX is The Father, The Son and The Unholy Spirit's whole trinity of devils))) It's just incomparable scale-wise, starting from the fact that's literally 1 vs 3 kind of unfair battle^^
I liked The Legends a lot more than AMA despite the latter being more popular and probably a better show objectively. But that's likely a VERY unpopular opinion)))
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lapislazulii
June 3, 2023 at 8:04 PM
I audibly laughed at that description, hands down one of the best comments I've read recently 😂
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Gikata
June 3, 2023 at 8:30 PM
Thanks, I just HAD to!)))
Kagemusha
June 4, 2023 at 11:27 PM
Same here! The only thing I'm looking forward to is King the Land. I can't watch anything else except Love is Sweet.
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29 OldLawyer
June 3, 2023 at 9:38 AM
Our favorite show remains DR. CHA. It is just so well done. The final episodes are this weekend.
OH! YOUNG-SHIN is still trying hard but the show struggles at times. I agree with Deabakgrits that this is not the do-over we hoped for, but it is watchable.
We finally got the Confession that we have been waiting for on THE REAL HAS COME! I loved it almost as much as I loved the epic smackdown administered to our ML’s family by our FL. But the 2FL has figured things out- so here comes more trouble- and our 2ML is about to re-appear. Meanwhile the ML’s maknae is talking to and trying to sign a contract with our FL’s seven year old niece (this is not as weird as it sounds) not knowing (yet) that FL’s younger brother (and not her uncle) is the child’s father- nor that as soon as our leads register their marriage that she herself will now be the child’s aunt. It is good to have a truly comic storyline to go with the more makjang ones. Did I mention how annoyed I am at the ML’s siblings?
My wife is totally hooked on TAIL OF THE NINETAILED 1938 she also continues to watch THE GOOD BAD MOTHER but I myself have not.
I have sort of been skipping around several C-drama rom-coms. Not the best way to watch them. Mostly I am just looking forward to SEE YOU IN MY 19TH LIFE, HEARTBEAT and KING THE LAND.
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hacja
June 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM
@oldawyer Just wanted to thank you for your essay on weekenders, (hat tip to @reply1988 for pointing it out to me). I must confess I'm not going to rush to start one based on it, but when I do your primer provides a good guide.
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indyfan
June 3, 2023 at 10:52 AM
Same. Same. Now that I’ve dropped The Real and there are no recaps, @oldawyer your summaries help me follow along. So thanks.
Also, those three upcoming shows are exactly the three I’m most looking forward to. See you in the comments.
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30 Britney
June 3, 2023 at 10:07 AM
I watched The Good Bad Mother and had forgotten how many episodes it was haha. I can't believe it's already almost over. Feels like there may be alot of quick solutions. I hope the villains get their comeuppence and that it's satisfying. More twins! I'll definitely miss young Kang Ho with the kids but I'm curious about adult Kang Ho with them.
I watched Misaeng (Incomplete Life) and I'm still surprised it was as popular as it was considering it's just about working in an office. I guess people really resonated with it. It's always nice to feel seen. The trip to Jordan felt like such a tonal shift haha. I forgot the opening scene of the drama looked like an action shoot so I was thrown by the last 20 or so minutes. I like to think the 4 rookies are still meeting up like once a week or month, for symmetry haha. But seriously, I liked their comraderie and how they all seemed to really add something to the group. Even though the guys were embarassed, I hope that group picture still exists.
So far I've watched 1 episode of Prison Playbook. I wasn't expecting any levity so that was surprising and then it came to an end by the closing minutes. I know the lead character isn't supposed to be the smartest but SERIOUSLY, who gets on the bad side of the biggest, meanest cellmate and the head prison guard?! That doesn't scream survival instincts even if he thought he would be there a limited time. Alot can happen in that time.
I watched 1 episode of One Day Off. It's a bit slow for me so far but I get that it's supposed slow and quiet since she's at a temple and trying to find some inner peace or something. I don't know if I'll continue it; maybe I will since it's a short series.
One of my main criteria for dramas lately is no romance or at least that that isn't the main focus. Surprising or maybe not surprising, it's hard to find those types of dramas that capture my attention.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM
‘ I know the lead character isn't supposed to be the smartest but SERIOUSLY, who gets on the bad side of the biggest, meanest cellmate and the head prison guard?!’ 👈🏾 he actually does that act superbly but as the drama goes on you start to notice how it allows him hiding in plain sight.
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Britney
June 3, 2023 at 10:20 AM
Well, consider my interest piqued because I do not understand how getting on people's bad side could possibly lead to hiding in plain sight. Oh! Because so much attention would be on him? Still, the idea makes me twitchy.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 3, 2023 at 10:49 AM
People think he is stupid so they let their guard down and act in certain ways that means he can get the upper hand in the end.
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dramalover4ever
June 4, 2023 at 1:10 AM
He's no dummy. The way he operates is totally counter-intuitive. It took me ages to get into it, but I'm so glad I did.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
June 4, 2023 at 2:02 AM
‘ He's no dummy.’👈🏾 I know he reminds me of the detective Columbo who is seen as a bumbling idiot but people fall into the trap every time!
I really loved the people in their cell; they all had different journeys that led them to be in that room but they learnt to be a family.
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31 parkchuna 🍉
June 3, 2023 at 10:12 AM
I never thought i’d be watching a historical c-drama but i just spent my friday night and a good chunk of Saturday speed-watching Love Like the Galaxy. I started with the intention of only watching the short clips on YT, but i got so hooked that i decided to check the episodes in order. If it wasn’t 50+ episodes i probably would’ve watched it without skipping. At times the drama doesn’t even feel like a period-piece, thanks to its clever writing and placement of humor.
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32 Gikata
June 3, 2023 at 11:01 AM
My drama watching lately is so non-existent that maybe I should skip a week or two... or more until I feel like actually enjoying shows again and not just forcing myself to do so.
TALE OF THE NINE-TAILED 1938: This drama is merrily heading into bloodshed and mayhem and I wish I was more mentally prepared for all that. With Season3 still up in the air we can only hope that whatever conclusion S2 is gonna have it would be at least logically satisfying, since it's kinda obvious now that emotionally it would be bittersweet at best. Seems like PAIN is gonna be the main theme of my year-end review if I ever get to write one)))
ASHES OF LOVE: I'm afraid I've overestimated myself((( I sat through 3 (!) more episodes this week, and even that took quite a bit of effort. Not sure how much it's a fault of epic post-TTEOTM hungover (guess I need an exorcist who will finally lift the dark spell that drama has on me) and how much it's just show being something entirely out of my preferences spectrum even after a lot of generous stretching involved, but end result is the same. I'm not fully giving up yet because I'm AWFULLY stubborn, but damn, couldn't it be at least a little easier? I wish I could just FF all the parts I don't care about - which is like 95% of the whole thing so far - but with a story so lengthy I'll probably lose any track of the plot if I do that. Is there a detailed - preferably episode by episode - recap somewhere that I can read and use as a skipping guide?
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OldLawyer
June 4, 2023 at 10:23 AM
My wife watched ASHES OF LOVE and found it to be OK but not a show she would recommend to others. It would be entirely reasonable to drop it.
Many Chinese Fantasy dramas are among the very best shows that you can watch. If you want a show that is as good as TTEOTM (which my wife loved, even the ending which left some people cold) then here are a few (all are in the Xianxia tradition):
First is the great fantasy drama LEGEND OF FUYAO which was based upon the novel EMPRESS FUYAO. My son thinks that this story’s fantasy world is every bit as complete as Tolkien’s LORD OF THE RINGS. Another fine fantasy, starring the incomparably beautiful Ni Ni is LOVE AND DESTINY. You could also try ETERNAL LOVE and LOVE AND REDEMPTION. There is also the more recently broadcast IMMORTAL SAMSARA as well as the fabulous LOVE BETWEEN FAIRY AND DEVIL.
There are also fantasies which lie outside the Xianxia tradition, these are known as Xuanhuan and often contain non-Chinese story ideas and elements but mixed in with Chinese folklore. The recent costume drama THE BLUE WHISPER, starring the incomparable Dilmurat Dilraba, is a superb example of one of these fantasies.
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Gikata
June 4, 2023 at 2:15 PM
I'm this close to follow your reasonable advice + voice of common sense and drop it, but like I've said, stubborn is my middle name and multiple people swore on their firstborns that it DOES get way more exciting/epic midway, so I'll probably try to hang on until there at least.
Cold is not the word I'd describe that ending, hellish rage would be more like it - for both professional and personal reasons))) But I think aside of AOL I'd better stay away from xianxia/c-fantasy altogether for a month or two, if only for cooling off. Maybe delving deeper into wuxia instead would be a good idea. There's no stress relief like watching a prettily choreographed fight))) I'll consult with my father on that matter, he surely knows some good stuff there since it's his main area of expertise. I believe the best examples of this genre are on the retro side though and may be hard to find with a proper subs. Maybe it's really time to succumb to the dark side and start learning Chinese... Why wasn't it as accessible as an option when I was younger and faster-brained?
LEGEND OF FUYAO sounds promising - rich lore is one of the main attractions of fantasy. Comparison with LOTR is an exceptional praise though, I'm intrigued. Other dramas I've heard about and wasn't really excited about, but I'll note them too, thank you.
Read about xuanhuan as a genre just yesterday, and it seems like I haven't watch any show like that yet. There is a separate tag for it on MDL, I assume?
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Seon-ha
June 4, 2023 at 2:39 PM
So…is that Gikata “Stubborn” Dramabeans, then?
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Gikata
June 4, 2023 at 3:13 PM
I have enough names, nicknames and pseudonyms to fill a whole A4 list, but this particular one is among the oldest and most universally acknowledged titles of mine))) But doubt I'll ever gonna properly add it to my bio - it's more fun as a surprise for others to discover themselves^^
OldLawyer
June 4, 2023 at 4:27 PM
I understand stubborn: I have Swedish ancestors.
I am not sure that there is a separate tag or not for xuanhuan or not- neither my wife nor I have ever looked anything up on the basis of which subgenre it is. We just know what it is when we are watching because it is immediately obvious.
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Gikata
June 4, 2023 at 6:30 PM
Oh, these guys are truly known for their determination)))
So I've looked it up and there is indeed one, but with a limited amount of search results - under 70, nearly half still unreleased - which is a tiny drop in the huge sea of cdramas. With such a limited amount of options to choose from I'll probably leave it for later tho. I've used up most of my luck in blind-and-random show picking on TTEOTM and need some time before using this totally scientific method once again)))
OldLawyer
June 4, 2023 at 7:25 PM
I might also note that many avid watchers of Chinese Costume drama watchers are actually needing to take a break after TTEOTM, including my wife who really loves them. She has BACK FROM THE BRINK all teed up and ready to go but is having trouble pushing the play button right now. Instead, she has been watching Hallmark movies, British mysteries and a few other things. It may be that part of what is going on for you is a similar kind of withdrawal symptom.
Gikata
June 5, 2023 at 1:26 PM
I guess so, addictive quality of that show is really legendary - akin to especially strong spice completely numbing one's taste buds for a while. We all need group therapy and free milk to soothe the burns)))
Heard that BFTB is quite fine and cute, at least initially, but around Ep18 or so a drastic change of writer(s) happened and plot stopped making any sense, leaving fans rather furious. Seems like latest episodes got back on track tho. Let's see how they handle the ending first.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
June 5, 2023 at 9:14 PM
Flashback to the bumper sticker on my Swedish grandpa's pickup truck: "You can always tell a Swede - but you can't tell him much."
Thanks for bringing up the term xuánhuàn, which was new to me. It led me to this page explaining the various types of fantasy Cdramas - I had no idea there were so many subgenres. Worlds within worlds!
OldLawyer
June 5, 2023 at 10:07 PM
Thank you, Gikata, for the heads up regarding BFTB. I will alert my wife. I think that your analogy of TTEOTM to strong spice (Think African cuisine) is right on.
33 redfox
June 3, 2023 at 11:22 AM
I am rewatching Ghost doctor bc weekends do be slow to come but still rewinding Uee parts cause that character, if i had to live with her i would use any excuse to knock her unconcsious. Kim Bum is so different in GD and as Rang in Tof9T. Seon Tak is a kind of "C'est la vie, cuckoo!" type, that doesnt stay attached to a situation (what a great way to live! ) he is like a lucky fool and Rang on the other hand is like hypersensitive, edgy and attracts danger, and is deeply agftected by everything. It made me think on law of attraction and that you attract what you are, and your thoughts become who you are. in the end it is true we can only help ourselves. nobody aint going to save us from our own thoughts.
not watching much else, I made my speech draft, of course it has zombies in it and ghosts. and finished travel photo album with 400 photos.
I want to start the day trip drama, but it is a fuss finding it anywhere in my region. maybe i have to use VPN so i can use a streaming site. they all blocked...
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redfox
June 3, 2023 at 11:26 AM
P.s. i am defonately more the dramatic type a la Rang, it takes me a long time and a lot of reassurance to recover from.emotional wounds. im not Seon Tak the rubber doll who just bounces back up. im sometimes very envious of that type. or did he just cultivate the non-reaction bc of ghosts.
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MikeyD signed up
June 3, 2023 at 9:29 PM
Ghost Doctor, for all its fault has the big benefit that it gave us a satisfying ending, especially in a year where so many prestige dramas just couldn't stick the landing.
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34 Alluvial_Fan
June 3, 2023 at 2:17 PM
Whew! Just finished Joy of Life and I am blown away. What a powerful, thoughtful beautifully crafted drama. The only thing I can think to do is start over from the beginning and look for hints and clues. Lord I feel for all the fans who have been waiting for so many years for the sequel to begin shooting.
Loved the tag line before the final credits:
"This is dedicated to all the ordinary yet brave people who use love and hope to make this world more kind."
I am a fan and will be there for the next time/season 2 as this has become my number one favorite C-drama.
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bong-soo
June 3, 2023 at 4:36 PM
I also recently finished JOY OF LIFE (2019) (Viki US) and loved it. Coming in at 46 episodes I will not be starting it again lol. The good news is JOY OF LIFE SEASON 2 is now in production with most if the original cast. ML Zhang Ruo Yun continues to amaze me. I will be there for season 2.
ZRY recommendation. If you would be interested in seeing ZRY out from under all those robes go to his ORDINARY GREATNESS. (2022) (iQIYI) (38 eps.). It is a terrific contemporary slice of life police drama about uniformed police officers in a station house. Something like the kdrama LIVE (2018). I subscribed to iQIYI so I could watch ZRY’s performance and he was great as was the rest if the cast.
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Alluvial_Fan
June 3, 2023 at 4:41 PM
For a fellow Joy-of-Lifer's recommendation, I will hunt down Ordinary Greatness. Thanks for the reply. I've been walking around for hours just shaking my head and saying "Wow".
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bong-soo
June 3, 2023 at 4:44 PM
As far as I know ORDINARY GREATNESS is only available on iQIYI.
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Alluvial_Fan
June 3, 2023 at 5:46 PM
Ahh, dang.
OldLawyer
June 3, 2023 at 8:02 PM
My wife watched JOY OF LIFE and really liked it.
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kiara
June 4, 2023 at 8:07 AM
I’m patiently waiting for JOY of LIFE 2 and NIRVANA in FIRE 3.
2023 is not my year with new dramas. I’ve spent my free time rewatching and appreciating old favorites.
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dramalover4ever
June 4, 2023 at 1:15 AM
It was brilliant. I'm currently doing a slow rewatch. I love the little boy in the beginning - indeed a worldly wise little creature. It is well worth following up on anything ZRY has been in, especially Snow Sword Stride.
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Alluvial_Fan
June 4, 2023 at 5:49 PM
Started my own slow re-watch this evening. Every scene, every interaction is loaded with clues. I may venture to suggest that it is among the best of the best. This from a Nirvana in Fire super fan.
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35 Minka
June 4, 2023 at 12:53 AM
Misaeng - I’d like to thank the Beanies who mentioned Misaeng as their choice in the You can only pick one: Slice-of-life dramas post. This has been in my watchlist but I only got to start it after that post. And boy… I am enjoying it so much! It’s giving me My Mister vibes (which I also love). Beautiful, flawed characters, heavy storyline but there’s the excitement on the corporate tension and effortless comedy gold. Only halfway through (12/20 episodes), but I can already tell this is for keeps. I’m happy to have another drama added to my favorite list.
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lapislazulii
June 4, 2023 at 3:14 AM
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it so far!! It is a gem of a drama - I'm kind of jealous that you get to experience it for the very first time!
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Minka
June 4, 2023 at 4:29 AM
Indeed, it is! It’s now in my top 3 slice of life dramas.
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Alluvial_Fan
June 4, 2023 at 6:08 PM
To my elementary co-teacher I suggested: We need a rooftop.
Every job everywhere needs a place to get jhiggy wid it (acknowledge that whatever comes down from upper admin is nuts}. Welcome to the Misaeng club!!
Recently a person who works in film production here in New Mexico, asked me what is my fav Kdrama, I could only respond with "My Mister". Firstly it is on Netplix. Second it is so well written, acted and directed that it translates everywhere. I always add that it "starts very dark and ends very light".
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36 Kohumalli
June 4, 2023 at 9:47 AM
My Perfect Stranger – I'm dropping this after 8 episodes. So many things distract me. Two schoolboys are among the 3 suspects when a teacher is murdered, a teacher they hardly know. The two murder victims seen so far are both tied with a red string nobody pays any attention to. It all happens in a village with so few people that wearing a blue cap is enough to identify you, but the police department has some 10 detectives. Where did the ML get the idea he can fix a broken time-travel car? Of course he can't!
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Kohumalli
June 5, 2023 at 11:12 PM
Another thing... In E08, the ML's father says he will help, but only those who are smart – defining "smart" as someone who can solve Rubik's Cube in under 5 seconds. Why 5 seconds? Probably because the current world record (2023) is under 5 seconds. But in 2003 (the oldest I have found) , say, the world record was 14 seconds. In 1987, it must have been a lot slower.
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37 minnie
June 4, 2023 at 11:31 AM
Tale of the Nine Tailed 1938: I love this show so much! Each and everyone of the characters is just brilliant, and the set design and costumes are gorgeous.
Dr Cha: I do not want to give away the ending, but I am MASSIVELY annoyed. The last two episodes really were the worst.
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38 Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
June 7, 2023 at 10:19 AM
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39 Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
June 7, 2023 at 10:39 AM
The Glory: Finally finsihed part 1 and 2. I did feel a bit let down at the end, not sure why, but it was a good, though disturbing watch. It didn't flow as well as I thought it would. Most of the 'revenge' tools used were mere flukes and didn't show much for the long term planning. At one point it felt things were being handed onto Dong-Eun's plate by some divine intervention. Some of the skin show didn't make much sense either other than making it a typical Netflix show (Cha Joo Young has beautiful nude visuals but seemed kind of wasted in a revenge bullying drama). Also, I absolutely didn't feel any chemistry between the leads. Was it just me? Later I learned the ML and the villain (Lim Ji Yeon is spectacular) are dating. maybe that's why? Don't know. Found the ML super cute and looking forward to watch The Good bad mother once it ends.
Our Beloved Summer: This was a long drawn watch. I shipped the couple, but the darned thing was SO repetitive that I almsot gave up in the middle. I could have FF several episodes and they were exactly where they were....it was frustrating and should have been at least four episodes less. But it was innovatively crafted otherwise and Woo Shik is a cutie, though I am still on the fence with Kim Da-mi. It did leave me with a sweet feeling overall which feels nice.
The Concubine (movie): It made me sit up for its shock value. After watching slew of chaste K-dramas full of fish kisses, hand holding passing for passion and hugs making up for lack of love making, this popped my eyes out. The movie wasn't great by any measure, but boy, they didn't hold back. Some of the scenes are designed to gross you out even though the characters are having almost pornographic sex. And the shock never ends, right till the end. This also made me realize why some of the recent dramas might have caused immense frustration with the romance fans LOL!
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