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Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

Our final week spins us around in circles and just when we think we’re done, it spins us around some more. Between our publisher and his writer, the “show don’t tell” rule might work in books, but real life works with a separate set of rules. And for a happily ever after, something has to give.

 
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Yoo Inna in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

We have finally come to the end of the breakup show, and trust me when I say I’m happy to send it off without any fanfare. As consolation, though, it could have been worse. I mean, Bora could have ended up with Ju-wan again — which is basically the horror Episode 13 subjected us to.

To celebrate Deborah’s return to radio as a breakup icon, Ju-wan calls in on the show and blabs about wanting to get back together with his ex. Yunno, since his self-awareness meter is broken and he doesn’t know a thing about boundaries. But when he shows up at the station after her segment is over and asks to start over again, Bora hesitates. She lets herself be dragged away and as usual, Soo-hyuk is a witness to this moment.

“You seem like a different person these days. Give me a chance to get to know you better,” Ju-wan tells Bora over coffee, and I think the coffee would have looked better on his face rather than in the mug. But you do you, Bora.

Yoo Inna and Chansung in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final) Yoo Inna and Chansung in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

To show how committed Ju-wan is to getting back together, he shows up at Bora’s meeting with Soo-hyuk acting all boyfriendly, and I just want to put him in a rocket and launch him into space! Isn’t Elon Musk his role model? He should go open a Mom’s Chicken outlet on Mars or something. Ugh! I don’t expect anything less from Ju-wan, but I expected more from Bora here, and I was disappointed that she didn’t put her foot down immediately and tell Ju-wan where to go. Between Hell and Mars, there’s plenty of locations I can suggest.

Instead, Ju-wan sticks around long enough to accuse Soo-hyuk of taking advantage of Bora’s post-breakup vulnerability to sway her heart. And it’s really Ju-wan’s audacity for me. But in typical Soo-hyuk fashion, he keeps mum about his feelings for Bora — which is all the ammunition Ju-wan needs to cast doubts in Bora’s mind. Because how can she be swayed by someone who doesn’t feel anything for her? It doesn’t help that Soo-hyuk congratulates her on returning to radio and on her “new relationship,” and I want to scream! Assumptions will be the end of this publisher-writer duo.

Yoon Hyun-min in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

Done with the assumptions, Bora decides to clear the air once and for all with Soo-hyuk, and good for her because they need to put a definite tag to whatever it is going on between them. Bora pushes and prods, but Soo-hyuk stays true to love character, and he doesn’t break. And this is where Bora delivers one of my favorite quotes in the show, “If you can’t verbalize your feelings, don’t show them in the first place. [Because] it only makes the one who’s misled a fool!” This right here is the TRUTH! And it encapsulates the totality of my frustration with Soo-hyuk.

Over the course of the drama, we’ve seen that Soo-hyuk is a man of actions over words. Acts of service seem more of his love language unlike Bora who’s partial to words of affirmation. But when it comes to making a relationship work or even getting it off the ground to begin with, there has to be a compromise. You don’t automatically assume that people will know how you feel — you need to man up and let them know. And to do that, you need to speak the language they understand because for people to feel loved, they need to be loved in their own language. And that’s what Soo-hyuk still hasn’t gotten. He made the mistake with Yu-ri, and he’s doing it again with Bora.

Yoon Hyun-min and Yoo Inna in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final) Yoon Hyun-min and Yoo Inna in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

For someone who was worried that all Bora feels for him is gratitude, Soo-hyuk still couldn’t get those affirming words out even after Bora put her pride aside and told him she liked him. Soo-hyuk is all, “I can’t just put my emotions first,” when Bora says she doesn’t want a man who prefers to use flowery euphemisms instead of directly saying the words. And mind you, this was 40 minutes into the final episode of what is supposed to be a rom-com. Tsk.

I think Soo-hyuk would be a perfect fit as a second male lead in another drama. He has it all: being there for the female lead in her times of need, bad luck with timing, inability to confess his feelings, sadly watching her from afar with the “love of her life,” and drunken confessions that he will not take responsibility for. Because it’s one thing to tell her not to get back with Ju-wan when drunk, and it’s another thing to maintain that same energy when sober.

Yoon Hyun-min and Yoo Inna in Bora! Deborah: Episodes 13-14 (Final)

Anyway, people come to a point of realization in different ways, and for Soo-hyuk, his tipping point is reading Bora’s manuscript. She pours out all her feelings for him in there and it’s nothing she hasn’t said to him before. She wanted reassurance from him because she didn’t want to be hurt. But now she knows she doesn’t need reassurance from someone else for the choices she makes. Whether it’s a happy ending or a sad one, she will write her own ending. And to ensure that he’s a part of Bora’s ending, Soo-hyuk takes off to meet her.

But Bora is currently being briefed about the latest happenings in chicken town on a dinner date with Ju-wan. And really, some things never change. Ju-wan even displays Mom’s Chicken’s newest takeout pack — but this pack comes with a ring! It’s the proposal Bora had always wanted from him, but it’s coming a few months too late. In a dramatic twist, the girl Ju-wan cheated with shows up at the restaurant having bugged his car — which is a joke Bora made the day she caught them kissing. Lol. And to take the twist game higher, Soo-hyuk shows up, too, and he escorts Bora out of the restaurant.

Finally, Bora gets the confession she wants from Soo-hyuk — even though she had to practically draw the “I have tried not to, but I just cannot resist. Whatever you do, nothing can make me stop liking you,” out of him. See, Soo-hyuk, was that so hard? But then, he looked like he might actually faint if those words left his mouth, so yeah. Lol. They kiss, and it’s the beginning of their cringey and cheesy romance (less than 10 minutes to the end of the drama). Pfft.

Checking in on the other couples in the drama, Bomi and Jin-ho are pregnant! Yes, the drama really went there. They’re cute and all, but cuteness won’t raise kids, and I think these two are too young and too financially handicapped for the responsibility that comes with having a child. As for Yoo-jung and Jin-woo, she discovers his basement hideout, but these two are in it for the long haul. And like I said last week, I’m so over their marriage, so best of luck to both of them.

Finally, Woo-ri was rewarded with a boyfriend in Sang-jin, and I just can’t with this show. For someone whose favorite book is Daddy Long Legs, I can see why Woo-ri has a creepy crush on Sang-jin. But what does he even see in her? And don’t give me that “We don’t need qualifications to love” nonsense. The dynamics of power aside, this relationship is just weird. I thought Woo-ri’s addition to the show was going to bring some bubbly Gen Z energy into the office. Alas!

As expected, Bora’s book is a success — and she did not have to get back together with Ju-wan for that to happen! No one shipped those two better than Sang-jin, and you’ve just gotta love capitalism because it was all about the publicity and book sales for him. *Rolls eyes*

Our final scene is a Christmas gathering/impromptu wedding of Bomi and Jin-ho, and Bora casually gets a ring from Soo-hyuk. We end with a narration from Bora about how their love is neither a perfect happy ending nor a sad one: it’s an open ending. Promises will be broken, love will change in the course of time, but there will be no regrets because they are true to love. And maybe that’s the story the drama wanted to tell: a story of love and the different ways people find meaning to, and express the feeling.

I could have done with more scenes of Bora and Soo-hyuk flirting and having meaningful conversations — as those were the best parts of the drama. But no, we just had to get all those unnecessarily dragged out scenes of them being miserable and mourning their exes. Agreed, getting over a breakup isn’t easy, but if I wanted “reality,” I’d have opted for a slice-of-life show instead. For a 14-episode rom-com, we should have more romance between the lead couple than what we got. But I have come to terms with the fact that I am probably not the target audience of this drama, so this is where I respectfully bow out.

 
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I am not going to lie…I had an entirely other post, written in advance, to post here for this drama. But this line emphasized by @unit changed my tack: “And this is where Bora delivers one of my favorite quotes in the show, ‘If you can’t verbalize your feelings, don’t show them in the first place. [Because] it only makes the one who’s misled a fool!’

It reminded me in this context so much of Han Dong-jin‘s line in Call It Love (paraphrasing from memory): “I don’t like being misunderstood or misunderstanding others.” This gap between expressing one’s feelings and being tacitly understood by others was much more deeply engaged in this latter drama, IMO.

I did enjoy True to Love, but perhaps wished it stayed at the level of a physical comedy where it shined.

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TrueToLove is the first kdrama that I looked forward every week to watch and tbh I still want to have more episodes of them (maybe 2 more?) lol I want to see how affectionate they're to each other but the ep14 takes all my breath away with the great highlights of these two characters from them arguing in the office, from giving hug to Su-Hyeok in the taxi, from the moment Bora confess her feelings, ala drama confession of Su-Hyeok's ending it with their Christmas exchange gifts to each other.

I enjoyed watching this kdrama and even now, I have the ep14 on repeat. I just can't get enough of this two.

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I loved it and happy to see at least one other Beannie who looked forward to this every week. I absolutely adored Soo-hyuk from the beginning because no matter how reserved (“tight-assed” someone called him) he may be, he valued authenticity and Bo-ra valued the fact that when she was with him “she could be herself.”

The re-watch value of this show is this: simply watching all of their scenes together will equal several hours of watching two intriguing characters gradually falling in love. Teasing, arguing, supporting, encouraging, even insulting. . . .their conversations were fun and well-written. It was enjoyable the 1st time and I look forward to a binge fest in a couple of weeks, where I can skip through the rest. No extraneous murder mysteries, corporate take-overs, meddling grandfathers, or Grand Misunderstandings. Just hours and hours of good old-fashioned love story.

As for the other three quasi-couples, writers didn’t give me any reason to root for any of them. U-ri and Sang Jin – I’m sorry, this isn’t okay and the fact that they tried to portray it as Daddy Long Legs (the novel, not the movie) still doesn’t make it okay in 2023. Bo-mi, jin-ho and Su-Su (apparently TWINS) is romanticized when neither has any sort of career, future plans? AWFUL!

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all smiles for me here :) I already miss them both! and yes, the feeling is mutual when it comes to these lovebirds U-ri and Sang-jin also to Bo-mi and Jin-Ho lol sorry but no for me too!

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Totally agree with you about Uri and Sang-Jin. I have talked about this with other people who understand why they end as a couple, and even support it. My issue is that I never noticed he had romantic feelings for her, and I think not even rewatching the drama I will notice. And they have zero chemistry.

I'm okey with Bomi and Jin-oh's ending. Life won't be easy, so they will mature soon. And that cute photo of Su Su Twins... A nice detail. I wish we had had photos of the rest of the couple's future too.

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it would have been soooo nice if we have those future photos lol

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I think I would have enjoyed this drama much more if it had JUST been these two, or if the other characters/couples would have been equally engaging.

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Part of me appreciates the risk this drama took by making a lot of the characters pretty unlikeable and wanting us to root for them. And I did, mostly. And then came the final 2 episodes. Marriage and a baby for Bo-Mi and Jin-Ho without the finances to do it? Eeek! And the romance between Sang-Jin and U-Ri? Are you kidding me? And I've never rooted for a divorce more than I did with Yoo-Jung and Jin-Woo. I'm sad for what this could have been.

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Your last sentence is precisely how I feel. There were a couple of great moments, but the potential in this drama was fully squandered.

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they really managed to botch 3 storylines my god

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I had to write this down so I do not forget my thoughts when the recaps land. Jinlee Publishing's staff have a very toxic work culture. They refuse their employer's attempt to have an integral work environment/relationship between he and them and then murmur about the relationship between Sang-jin and Yu-ri. As if it wasn't their fault that only Yu-ri and Sang-jin had coffee alone that day. The fact that one of them actually saw them having coffee is literally offensive. As if they're any better people, not that the staffs are actually better, they are way worse individuals and far from good. Their hypocrisy is distasteful and gross. I really hope Sang-jin gives them a bitter pill before Bora! Deborah ends. That apology they gave at the end of the day after U-ri clarifying matters was one of the most insincere. I'd have preferred that they hang their heads in shame and simply go home, that would have felt way better than they apologizing. Their apology made their distasteful childish go away with a slap on the wrist. Company card...? As if they were ever inclusive in the first place.

There's more though. Soo-hyuk, and the Sang-jin U-ri pairing. I'll come back to those ones later.

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A very big peeve in this drama will be Soo-hyuk. We spent close to 14 hours watching to see if he'll become someone who expresses his heart to someone he loves and almost till the very end, he never changed. And please, for it to take reading Bo-ra's manuscript to confirm his fears was the most selfish thing ever. "He doesn't want to get hurt? He wants to be sure she feels for him the same way he feels for her? For someone who wants to be sure his feelings is/will be reciprocated he doesn't give that same sense of security to each of the women who loved him.

There's an experience my high school teacher told the class about someone he knew. This guy was friends with this lady for close to how many years...more than half of the life they had lived then. They were called husband and wife right from I think the 5th grade. Both of their parents were aware of the closeness these two felt and shared and we're practically called in-laws. Fast-forward to the future, the lady married someone else. Everyone was gobsmacked. When the guy finally asked the lady why she married someone else, she said she didn't know what he felt for her as he did not express his feelings. He, just like Soo-hyuk was being the perfect boyfriend but she didn't know where they stood cause he never defined what they were, even though she knew they loved each other. Coupled with the man's shy nature, he assumed they didn't need to. He couldn't even ask her to be his girlfriend. He thought there was no need to since they were all affectionate to each other already. Long story short...Mr. Man is still single as at when the story was told to my class. And he regrets it that he never for once vocalized how he felt.

It's not just about acting all loving, Soo-hyuk needed to put words in his actions. Someone like him would be swimming in utopia each time Bora tells him she loves him but will never ever bring himself to give that same reassurance to Bo-ra or any other woman. It is a very selfish and this close to toxic behavior as the other woman will spend the most of her time worrying about what they are to you. This isn't a case of "say it like you mean it", he is too self-absorbed to even say it at all. This isn't a case of "I want to be sure before I say anything", he's just to cowardly for me amd he doesn't love anyone enough to take that risk. Even if his his mom was scarred from her first marriage and that scarred him too, he isn't blind to the loving relationship she has in her current marriage. If anyone, Bo-ra should be the one who's car careful since she's the person who wears her heart on her sleeve. He doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve and then he's worried about...what? This is pride at its peak.

About Sang-jin...I always knew he's a definition of a textbook romantic, and yes he was. But to be paired with U-ri...what the hell went into the head of the writer. I am a sucker for neat romantic ties for everyone involved but not them too. I...

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You got cut off! Hopefully you kept your full write up so can cut and paste it in or remember the last bit.

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...cheered when U-ri blowed away the heart that was shaped in the coffee and immediately went 🤦🏽🤦🏽 when they both said what? to each other. They should have just remained close friends. Or Sang-jin simply allow her the medium to voice out her confessions so she can find closure. But no...they went for the ultimate ultimate one. For someone who said so himself seems like he forgot to mind his age.
Is it funny that I've rooted for bosses dating their staffs but I just completely couldn't with this one. I'm glad Sang-jin got a romantic pairing at the end. I'll riot if he didn't. Just, I shouldn't have been her. But...the deed is done and it can't be overturned at this point so I'll take it. Besides we might have had Noona romances of this nature so why not get behind this one too.

All in all, I enjoyed Bo-ra! Deborah. I was reminded a few things to... especially the line 'If you can’t verbalize your feelings, don’t show them in the first place. [Because] it only makes the one who’s misled a fool!’. And I very much loved the confrontation between Jin-woo and Yu-jeong, even though it came up at the tail ending of the drama. I just wished he said what he told Jin-ho to Yu-jeong directly. The probability that she'll overhear his conversation was very slim. I understand his POV though. And I see why he sulked it in. It probably wasn't going to lead anywhere should he raise it up. But it's not like he stopped wanting things, he could have used one of the moments he wanted something of which she shut it down immediately to let her know how she's hurting him, even though she has valid reasons for shutting down the idea, like the caravan case for example.

I can't call this a bad watch at all cause it is a good watch. But it wasn't terrific either. It was in some really good in some parts and wasn't in some. Kinda unevenly distributed.
Still, I'm glad I pressed play on this one.

And thank you @unit for staying with us till the end with your recaps.

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For a book editor, Su-Hyeok sure struggled when it came to finding the words (or will) to express his feelings to Bora. Or even just to respond to hers. Overthinking how to do it? Say nothing if it couldn't be said perfectly? Maybe that's why he's an editor and not a writer.

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Congratulations fellow beanies on completing yet another drama (after the epic Interests of Love) that got us rooting for the couples breaking up and not ending up together. Actually I thought/hoped the lead couple won;t end up together. There is no maturity in their relationship and both still have issues from Soo-hyuk's chickening out to Bora's hesitance to out Ju-wan in place.

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Both he and Bora deserve a smack for giving Ju-wan leeway to throw his weight around. They both enabled him to toy with their head and life respectively.

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totally agree. I wanted to take the huge purple bouquet and smack it on the heads of the three.

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Ah well, in the 'Your top ten dramas' article I joked that if the title had instead been 'Your top ten dramas (if you don't count the last two episodes)' people would be writing very different lists. Because so many great dramas just run out of steam before the finale.

I get the impression the writers of Bora! had a topic they wanted to explore and said all they wanted to say on the subject, but unfortunately they still had an episode and a half left to go, so gave us a typical 'K-drama' ending. Bora! remains one of my favorite dramas of the year, *despite* the last 1 1/2 episodes.

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Bora as played by Yoo Inna was a likable character who showed real growth. She was the main reason to stick with the show. Episodes 11 and 12 had some very good dialogue between the two leads that actually suggested a mature realistic romantic relationship between two intelligent people. Even the initial episodes of the breakup were raw and not entirely unrealistic.

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These last episodes were terrible. There are several messages one can draw from this show the way it ended.

1. This is the optimistic one: men lie and can't communicate, but women should make the extra effort and judge by their actions, which are not very good, but what can you do if you are heterosexual female? Put up with it!

OR (the most depressing)

It is woman's duty to content themselves with idiot men, because it is their place, even if their husband neglects them and their boss sexually exploits them. AND they must have babies, even if the out of wedlock child will be raised in poverty and the mother will likely be abandoned by the simple minded, self-centered father when times get tough.

OR, (the most likely)

Romance is a total illusion: longtime boyfriends readily cheat, marriage is a sexless, unrewarding relationship in which the best you can do is play video games together; intelligent men that love women can only express their love in a brief episode of baby talk; immature bosses can't have a decent relationship except by exploiting naive young employees, and young men who devoutly profess their love to young woman and get them pregnant only worry about themselves and are proud that they have "fathered" a child.

I think the anti-romance message is the most plausible, so I'll credit the show with that. I just don't like it, in what could have been a really rewarding rom com with such a charismatic female lead. Also, I don't agree with it in principle!

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Yup, this is the drama that should have been titled "Love Is for Suckers."

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👆🏾I love this😊 so on point.

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Oh yes. This would be the appropriate title! ( I just wanted to wipe off Love is for Suckers memory from my head )

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Think of the Woo-ri - San-jin romance as being like Georgia O'Keeffe and Alfred Stieglitz. Twenty three years age difference, married for 22 years until Stieglitz died.
Okay, that's as far as I'm willing to go with that analogy. I can see why each likes the other, and since dating relationships are kind'a random anyway, it might as well be them and anyone else. Still, the optics are not good and I do not see this as a 'forever' romance. Only until Woori-matures a bit and wants a less problematic boyfriend.

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I can see that, although O'Keeffe was 28; Woo-ri looks about 18 and acts about 13. I was disgusted but not surprised that she and Sang-jin got together, but the show did a reasonably good job of framing it as one entry in its catalog of relationships: one they’ll both regret sooner or later.

An alternate version of this drama from Woo-ri’s point of view could be scary fun - like that French movie À la folie… pas du tout where everything changes depending on perspective. Come to think of it, that movie would make a terrific kdrama.

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I haven't seen À la folie… pas du tout, but read the plot story after you mentioned it... It was terrifying. Especially with what we know k-netizens and idol fans are capable of, I hope it never gets remade in Korea and remains lesser known 😅

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Sang-jin and U-Ri together looked like a father and his teenage daughter. The writer could have developed their relationship as a mentor/mentee relationship.

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"the show did a reasonably good job of framing it as one entry in its catalog of relationships: one they’ll both regret sooner or later".

I only understand that couple if the point all the time was to create them "cringey" on purpose, because that kind of couples exist, and nobody roots for them, and probably they will break up.
I sincerely don't think the writer likes that couple, but they are an example of something that exists in real life and that's why they are there. But Sang-Jin never seemed to have feelings for her, so his decision took me by surprise.

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Well, at least Sojin was good. I thought she acted circles around Yoo In-na, which I never would have expected to say before the show started.
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Shows that have any segment as bad as the first half of day 13 should be required to have warning labels at the beginning of every episode.
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Per Asianwiki, the writer doesn't seem to have much of a track record. We can safely least it that way.

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To quote a particularly mean TikTok meme, the writer should have continued to keep their talent hidden.

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The writer is behind the drama Mad for each other (I watched it last year and I did not like it much. I think Bora Deborah is way better).

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The last two episodes have shown me once again how realistically the two main characters and their character traits are portrayed. Perhaps I can understand Soo-hyuk so well because he is so similar to me in many ways. I myself am the queen of overthinking, it's important for me to be in control and I find it hard to let myself go and show my vulnerable side (and when you speak out, you are vulnerable). That's why I don't think pride was the overriding reason why Soo-hyuk took so long to tell Bora what she wanted to hear, but the fear of being hurt. To protect himself from this, he builds a wall of pride around himself and it is hard to overcome. Soo-hyuk managed to do this when he read Bora's essay and the doubts were removed that her feelings for him were not just based on gratitude and that she did not want to go back to her ex. The fact that Soo-hyuk had gotten the necklace for Bora and written the card before the ex showed up shows me that he was ready to take an important step by then, even though Bora had actually kept him at arm's length with her Mulder and Scully comparisons.
And I kept noticing how similar he and I are when I thought, why does he have to say those words, surely she can see and tell by his actions how important she is to him. But I can understand why she needed to hear it, simply as a sign that he was willing to change his years of behaviour for her, as difficult as that may be.

I am proud of how Bora handled the situations, both with Soo-hyuk and with her ex. She was able to leave the room with her head held high every time.

And I'm glad Soo-hyuk didn't give Bora the ring she bought at the beginning, but chose her own. She didn't need to get a gift that was originally meant for someone else, however beautiful the ring may have been.

The ex got exactly the ending he deserved. I hope his business goes bust. And there's a good chance of that - Maternal Grandma's Chicken doesn't sound like a cash cow now.

I looked forward to and enjoyed the new episodes every week. It's a shame it's over. Although I could have done without one or two episodes of heartbreak with acute relapse and boozing, and most of the other couples didn't really convince me either, Bora and Soo-hyuk were almost perfect as two complementary people who first became friends and then lovers.

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Regarding Soo-hyuk: I get that he wanted to be his true self to Bo-ra when showing his feelings (or failing to), and his true self isn’t a guy who makes dramatic or sentimental proclamations. BUT. As @marysadanaga pointed out, this is a guy who does words for a living, and all he could do was feebly mimic a cheesy “you’re here in my heart” line from a drama? And then Mr. Darcy’s notorious “I have tried not to love you” first confession from Pride and Prejudice? Come on, show, pick ONE literary theme and ride it to the end. He did need to see that she loves him even knowing his worst traits, which include trouble verbalizing his feelings - his equivalent of her less-favored right side of her face or her tendency to swear - but that dragged-out confession was painfully reminiscent of the dragged-out breakups. As so often happens with kdramas, the writer took a character fault way too far and didn’t leave him time to outgrow or reverse it convincingly.

Despite all my complaints, I found the show enjoyable on balance for Yoo In-na’s performance, for the interactions between Bo-ra and Soo-hyuk, and for Sojin’s effervescent Yoo-jung (who deserves SO MUCH BETTER than her hound-dog husband). And thanks, @unit! You made it all more tolerable.

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"this is a guy who does words for a living, and all he could do was feebly mimic a cheesy “you’re here in my heart” line from a drama? "

Well, he wrote her a poem - he was in a "lavender haze" (the Korean word "bora" mean purple) and she told him not good enough.

In the end, she found a way to get him to indirectly tell her ("convince me") without requiring a full-on "I Love You Bo-ra" shouted from the rooftop.

But I whole-heartedly agree that writer dragged it out too far.

And will So-jin EVER get a lead role?? Perhaps not in Korea or Asia-drama land where the diamond shaped female face (and square male face) is apparently a requirement for romantic lead roles.

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I also loved sojin's performance. her character sometimes left me a "ïs she really bora's friend?" but I absolutely loved seeing her on my screen. also loved how they styled her and her hair fit her so well. what a girl crush and yes, she deserved better. go live the marriage life you dreamed of. dont settle for less

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I think the highlight of this show for me was the rebranding of Mom's Chicken to Maternal Grandmother Chicken. NGL, that made me laugh out loud! HAHA

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Bora and Soo-Hyuk were great. I wish they gave us more scenes of them together being flirty and talking because it was the best part. The rest was meh.

All the other couples were a disaster :
- Bomi and Jin-ho : I never liked them. Bomi was touching when she was afraid that her sister will kill hersef but otherwise she was a spoiled girl. Jin-Ho was creepy. Neither of them has a home and think they can have a baby... They are both immature.
- Yoo-jung and Jin-woo : he's still acting like a teenager. The fact she had to stop him investing their money in stupid things and he's angry for that... She let him loose his money and live your own life.
- Woo-ri and Sang-jin : I had difficulties to hear her talking... She was talking like a little girl or someone who's not a native Korean. But when Sang-Jin did what it was right, they made him interested to someone who is clearly at the same stage in her life... Why? A crush was enough.

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Yeah, there were some really breathtakingly romantic scenes, but maaan did you have to wade through a lot of other stuff to get to them.

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Please enjoy my stream of consciousness comments once more. no analysis, just my brain melting.

EP. 13: 20 mins in and she already forgave the dude who cheated on her and blamed for it

What a cursed workplace and what a half assed apology... Nice to see Suhyeok step up tho

They're gonna cram a lot in these two eps huh... he was against kissing like an episode ago, and these mfs out here having unprotected sex??

There's nothing about this marriage worth saving, jfc.... wait, did bro just crawl inside the TV cabinet ????

I've heard of last minute breakups but this.... how did they manage to ruin the only thing I liked about this drama - the main couple ??? tbf, I won't lie, I don't even understand what they're fighting about at the end of the episode, it felt like a fever dream at this point

One more episode and I'll be free

EP. 14: Ok, yeah, obligatory kdrama alcoholism scene but that was a cool shot.

Fuck it, I'll date Suhyeok myself.

What is going on rn??? Is this old man seriously gonna date this weird ass girl??? No....

No way.....NOOOOOOOO 😭😭

This drama, man.... No words... except put this creepy ahjussi in JAIL. 🚨🚔 bro listed every reason why he shouldn't date her... and then decided to date her anyways.

I would never have the balls to google "should I get a divorce" on my massive work computer screen... in the office, but y'all stay safe tho

Y'know what? Very based of Bora, I'm proud of her for standing up for herself and telling this wishy washy idiot to go fck himself

I give the young parents with the shotgun wedding about 5 years. The boss and the employee "couple" are one newspaper exposé and/or HR violation away from a scandal that ends their careers (but most likely only of the low-income young woman with no connections).

50/50 on whether married couple truly repair their relationship or have a loveless, cold one for the next few decades

I still like main couple but the misunderstandings & last minute fighting was just silly. But just standard kdrama plot development ig. they still cute tho and the visuals are 🔥🔥

in conclusion, this truly was one of the dramas all time. I liked the part where she said "it's Deborah time" and Deborahed all over the place.

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@DylanSR42, what a fabulous recap! I will read your brain melt anytime.

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🤣I am not watching this drama and I felt like I was watching with you.

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I think I have been made a fool of because I have been misled- this show was promoted as a romantic comedy but kept banging us over the head with break up issues and ex's until the very end.

Over the course of 14 episodes there was minimal romance or romantic moments for any of the characters and the comedic moments were in short supply.
It leaves me feeling very unfulfilled.

The married couple- their relationship is suddenly fixed because she is happy to game with him downstairs in his man cave....um really.
The CEO (in episode 14) stood in the office in front of the staff and made the comment that he had a work place policy of no dating amongst the staff... 20 minutes later he is out with his junior, much younger employee, what the!
The two kids, episode 13 filler, let's throw in a random pregnancy and waste time on that plot point to take time away from the leads. Meanwhile the father of the unborn child sleeps in a cupboard! and it's not even his own cupboard! Maybe, there's the comedy I found lacking.
The main couple, I love these two actors but not their characters. Towards the end when Bora was walking away from Soo hyuk after he couldn't communicate, I thought okay, I will actually be happy that you found happiness without needing a man in your life.
Then we get the obligatory 5 minutes of being a couple, can no kdrama have the courage buck the trend?

I should be happy there wasn't a random serial killer thrown in I guess but come on, why didn't the writers use the truck of doom to get rid of Bora's ex.
Please can someone just make a decent romantic show, it doesn't seem like too much to ask for surely.
Sorry beanies, feeling somewhat bitter for what could of been with Yoo In na.

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“The father sleeps in…. Not even his own cupboard” 💀💀💀

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what a waste of two good actors with good chemistry.
I was on board during the first half bcs the leads scenes made up for the rest of the mess (well, minus that terrible holocaust reference). but then even their storyline got bad and the whole thing ended up a mess. i like the cast, I think the directing and art design was pretty but the writing really destroyed what could be a nice drama.

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this whole drama felt like a campaign pro-marriage to raise south korea's birth rate.

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The spirit of Shinzo Abe personally wrote the pregnancy storyline I think

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The moment I watched the final, I knew it was going to get scorched at Dramabeans. The is the first drama I watched that ended at episode 14, and I felt like the floor just dropped under the plot in the haste to plummet us all to the happy endings. This drama needed at least two more episodes (and a much bigger time jump) to have a meaningful conclusion because "oh, f*ck it, we're in love today, who cares about tomorrow" is just not doing it for me.

Woo-ri and Sang-jin didn't bother me too much, especially as we're left with the impression at their gift exchange that their puppy romance reflects two people who still don't understand each other. She wants a Daddy Long-Legs, and he wants to feel like he's a person worth love. It may not be ideal, but it's understandable for their present selves. A time jump could have shown them moving on to healthier relationships or even just growing into this one.

I also wanted to see what happened to Mr. "I'll protect you forever, even from myself, but not actually use any protection" Jin-ho. Of course he would adamantly "do the right thing" and marry Bo-mi, but for the drama to just end at their weird impromptu wedding, after having shown his panic at her pregnancy and her feelings for him being relatively lukewarm until that pregnancy test...ugh. Come on, drama. There's definitely going to be more to that story, especially with that photo of twins during closing credits.

Yoo-jung and Jin-woo...you know, I don't have much to say about them. I buy their friendship, so good for them.

But Bora and Soo-hyuk - they frustrated me so much. Bora straight out asserts that Soo-hyuk has shown his feelings, but she wants verbal confirmation. And then she refuses to let him give it. He tries to explain himself, but he doesn't say what she wants to hear, so she walks off? And that is on top of giving Mr. Chicken every damn time of day, seemingly endless opportunities to explain/justify/give corporate presentations. Girl, you already gave him at least two "final goodbyes" for the sake of closure, WTF are you doing in this finale? You are so incomprehensible, you have poor Soo-hyuk quoting "The Heirs" to make you happy, only to lead to the most awkward drama kiss I've seen between two mature actors.

Their closing aegyo was cute and probably the thing I enjoyed the most about the finale, though it seemed totally out of character and out of place. If this drama was supposed to show us the growth of the two leads, it failed because they were both making the same mistakes and assumptions at the end as they were at the beginning. If it was making a statement about love being an open ending, it needed more time to explore the reality of that for the different characters.

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What an annoying mess this show turned out to be. I feel bad for Yoon Hyun Min, who is the only reason I stuck this out. The show will leave me always wondering what the writers were trying to say. And wondering what was the point of her alchoholic gastritis if she wasn’t going to stop drinking.

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This drama had a lot of things that I really liked, but overall didn't quite work for me. Maybe if the second couples had been more fun to watch and not such trainwrecks. Or maybe if they had gotten Ju-wan out of the picture sooner.

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Enjoyed the drama overall but could have done without the cringey romance between Uri and the publishing house boss. The age gap was icky not to mention the inappropriateness of the boss dating a subordinate. Additionally, Bora entertained her deadbeat ex too much and the pregnancy story was unnecessary. All these plots just sucked time away from what made the drama shine…the delightful chemistry between the two leads.

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For me this drama was about love language. How we love and how we want/need to be loved. We may want to be shown how loved we are in a certain manner but we also need to recognise the others love language. Similarly, it can’t just be ‘this is how I love take it or leave it’. You need to understand your partner and give them reassurance in the manner that most resonates with them.

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‘ For me this drama was about love language…. You need to understand your partner and give them reassurance in the manner that most resonates with them.’👈🏾 this is a great catch.

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I debated before posting this. Sang Jin got a lot of hate. His way of loving was to put up a stoic front and carry on as if everything is normal. When he and his wife had to leave their home due to financial reasons he felt he had failed and his way of loving her was to set soo Jin free of a difficult life with him. She wanted an equal partner. He wanted blind faith and devotion which Woo Ri seems to give him. There is no one right way to be in a relationship. My mom says nobody knows what goes on in a relationship between two people. Sometimes it just works despite everything looking like a mess from the outside.

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I think it’s an interesting point and most thoughtful posts like this will be appreciated even if it doesn’t always get a response which is often only because people don’t see it. Not everyone checks the Beanies tab to scroll through the recent comments across the site. I learnt there is often a window for comments to get responses and posting outside that window results in tumbleweed rolling!

I stopped watching this show early but I did witness him on a date where he forgot the dates name when checking the reservation. The receptionist made that the funniest scene I have seen in a long time. His general attitude with the office staff also gave a negative impression and it was probably a combination of these things that added to the response about his relationship with a younger colleague. It’s interesting as age difference relationships are usually only treated as a big issue if the woman is older than the man or it’s seen as the man preying on the younger woman or it’s a soon to graduate school girl.

It’s good to have you in the comments sections and I hope you feel confident to comment on other posts in the future.

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Confession time : I also did not like the side couples, and stayed because of the OTP. But most importantly, I stayed because of Soo-Hyuk character's uncanny resemblance to someone I had been with for over 20+ years now - my husband. I was actually amused by the comments in this recap about SH, especially the ones who hated his character - I am sure if these beanies met my husband they would have hated him too. But no offense, as I did hate this part of my husband too, at first. Someone said also , that for an editor , SH does not seem to know how to express his words, this got me rolling on the floor, because my husband used to be an editor, too.

But anyway, I did come to learn that SH and my husband's love language is indeed action. When we were just getting to know each other, he would always quietly go with us and drive for me and my friends everywhere, and patiently wait. We were already holding hands and yet he has not confessed until I bluntly asked him to define our relationship. Later on, we of course learned our own love languages , and appreciated each other for it - and learned how to meet halfway for it. He still patiently does things for me and our son, which obviously were done out of love. He sometimes expresses his emotions now, but when he hesitates, I just ask directly and bluntly. I don't think we would have lasted 20 years (and still going strong) if we had not adopted to each other's true selves.

So you may wondering, what was going on in his head ? my husband's explanation was: whenever he contemplates what words to say, for example, he would already be thinking about the answers to the follow-up questions and so on and on. He then ends up with too many options / words to use so in the end, he ends up just showing/not saying. Pretty much what SH did =)

Anyway, that is my defense of SH, and my defense of this love story. In the end, I am just glad that my husband's unique personality got represented in a k-drama.

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This is the sweetest comment I have read on here. I am so glad that you shared that even though this is a drama it is reflected in reality for some beanies. @dramamad did a great job too of introducing an alternative way to view this drama and I think it is so helpful to see a range of perspectives in the comments section.

Wishing you another 20+ years of love and understanding.

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Yes, thanks! This comment here is definitely the best argument for this show needing another episode that I’ve read. What if…we could see all four of our couples actually growing, changing and adapting to one another (not just one-sidedly)!!

That said, related to the other post on “what makes a rom-com,” perhaps such a complex engagement with what it really takes to build a 20+ relationship isn’t actually what the genre’s about, and all we can get is a cute montage of futures (probably) well-lived. Boo.

Maybe we can wish for the genre to be more brave and compelling!!!

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^ 20+ year

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There goes one bean for a romcom! Not the best but it was entertaining. I stuck with it because I love Yoo In Na.

I wished that Lee Soo Hyuk actually played So Hyuk instead of Yoon Hyun Min. That smoldering eyes and deep voice would have been made the drama 100 times better!

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I'm late to the party.

I enjoyed True to Love. It was fun.

I agree with majority of the comments by others.

My thoughts...
-I'm in the camp that Su-Hyeok loved Yu-ri. Su-Hyeok is unable to verbalize his feelings. Su-Hyeok

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Don't know what happened by I submitted my comment before I finished. Where was I...

My thoughts...
-Bo-ra + Su-Hyeok. It will be tough, but Bo-ra will have to nudge Su-Hyeok with encouragement so Su-Hyeok verbalizes his feelings until Su-Hyeok does this on his own without encouragement which could take some time. When Bo-ra was confessing to Su-Hyeok once Bo-ra finished I was waiting for her to say… Su-Hyeok, this is where you speak now.

-Su-Hyeok + Yu-ri. I'm in the camp that Su-Hyeok loved Yu-ri. Su-Hyeok is unable to verbalize his feelings. Su-Hyeok needs a nudge. This didn’t happen at the end of episode 1 with the harsh words from Yu-ri on their brutal breakup. The key was when Yu-ri said it was hard dating Su-Hyeok. These words lead to Su-Hyeok really biting his tongue and holding back. Yu-ri was using the coaching from Deborah instead of reading the room, and observing what she had and nudging Su-Hyeok with words of encouragement.

-Yoo-jung + Jin-Woo. I think they are a good match. Marriage is full of peaks and valleys. This couple is able to work through the valleys without hurting each other. I know some have commented on divorce for these two, but I think they need to communicate more with each other to get through the valleys.

-Sang-in + U-ri. I’m OK with it, but I think this relationship will run its course due to the age difference. Each person is at a different point in their life and I think this will lead to them going their separate ways over time. I feel what happened to the ML and FL in My Mister will happen to this couple.

-Sang-in + Soo-in. I think this is a better fit. I thought they were going to give it a second chance. I think they divorced for the wrong reasons.

-Bo-mi + Jun-Hoe. I’m OK with it. I could do without the pregnancy and faux wedding.

Note(s)…
-SOJIN. Sojin was a bright spot for this show. My take is Sojin had fun with this role, and did a good job. I liked how she played her character.

I first noticed Sojin as Jo Ki-Bbeum in Sh**ting Stars. She had a supporting role, but her acting chops were on full display in episode 14.

I’m currently watching Sojin as Mo Jae-In in Delightfully Deceitful.

-Kim Ji-An. Kim Ji-An is Yu-ri. I like this actress and would like to see Kim Ji-An in a bigger role. I first noticed Kim Ji-An in Three Bold Siblings as Shin Ji-Hye.

Overall, I liked this series. Good performances by all actors.

My source of reference is AsianWiki

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Coming back to this final recap almost 2 months later. XD I did watch the finale back when it aired.... Had mixed feelings. My fresh feelings of disappointment and dissatisfaction made me reluctant to visit here. I think I was crushed about the wasted potential. I really wanted to see Yoon Hyun Min in a stellar rom-com and have a breakout role.

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