Divorce Attorney Shin: Episodes 11-12 (Final)
by lovepark
It is finally time for our divorce attorney to face his last foe, but all the planning in the world might not be enough to win this seemingly impossible case. However, losing is not an option since his nephew’s life is on the line, and our hero refuses to give up without a fight. Along with his friends and a powerful ally, our divorce attorney attempts to change history and achieve his happily ever after once and for all.
EPISODES 11-12
I always thought Sung-han became a lawyer because of his sister’s death, but as it turns out, his true motivation has always been to protect his nephew. Though the path forward still eludes him, Sung-han knows that he is running out of time when Gi-young comes to his office in tears. Things are more terrible at the Seo household than he imagined, and he learns that his nephew is suffering from depression and binge eating disorder.
While Sung-han spends sleepless nights trying to come up with a solution, his friends worry about him and decide to help in their own way. Since Young-ju recently fired Gi-young’s trusted driver, Jung-shik thinks tailing Gi-young for days in his flashy car is a good idea — it was not.
Sung-han picks up Jung-shik at the police station and crosses paths with Young-ju. She accuses him of using Lady Ma and Gi-young to steal their family’s money, and then she insults Ju-hwa for acting so desperately in the past to get her share as well. He realizes that there is no point in reasoning with her and walks away.
Hearing Young-ju’s rant gives Sung-han enough clues to put the pieces together about Lady Ma’s situation, and he confronts her about the real reason for her divorce: she wants her share of the company to secure Gi-young’s future. When Lady Ma confirms his theory, Sung-han wants to know why she would go so far for her grandson, and she replies, “Because he is Ju-hwa’s son.”
All this time, Lady Ma cherished her late daughter-in-law in her own way and remembers the time they spent together fondly. As the truth dawns on Sung-han, he offers to negotiate on her behalf to avoid a divorce while still accomplishing her goal since she should not have to sacrifice herself in order to protect Gi-young.
Thus, Sung-han meets with Chairman Seo in person and gets him to agree to Lady Ma’s terms. The tidy resolution to a potentially messy divorce leaves the chairman wondering what Sung-han’s goal is in all of this. With a smile, Sung-han tells him that he will file for a termination of parental rights against Gi-young’s father.
After saving face thanks to Sung-han, the couple grabs dinner together, but the already sour mood turns rancid when Chairman Seo mentions Sung-han’s plans. He believes Sung-han will steal the money from Gi-young, so she informs him of Sung-han’s one condition in exchange for helping her: she is not allowed to give her shares to her grandson. Realizing that she, too, can change, Lady Ma decides to go through with the divorce, but this time, it will be for her sake.
Determined and ready, Sung-han goes up against Gi-young’s father and his army of lawyers in order to rescue his nephew from his suffocating home. Despite coming prepared with witnesses and CCTV footage, Sung-han struggles to sway the court and prove that Gi-young will be better off living with him.
Afterwards, Sung-han has a private meeting with Gi-young’s father and asks him how he can close his eyes to his son’s suffering. He tells him that he will never give up, and from the moment he quit playing the piano, he started this war.
As doubts creeps into his mind, Gi-young’s father finds his mother and asks her about Ju-hwa’s death. The reason for Lady Ma’s determination to protect Gi-young stems from the night Ju-hwa died since she overheard the conversation between her late and current daughters-in-law. Twisted with jealousy, Young-ju threatened to kick out Gi-young from the family if Ju-hwa did not stop, and told her to disappear from their lives so Gi-young could forget about her. After that harrowing call, Ju-hwa crossed the street in a daze and met her untimely end.
In court, Gi-young’s father agrees to take the witness stand, and to the shock of everyone except Lady Ma, he tells the truth. He admits to conspiring with Attorney Park during his divorce case and obtaining Ju-hwa’s health records to take away her parental rights. His confession is enough to cause concern, and as a result, the courts conclude to limit his parental rights and appoint Sung-han as Gi-young’s new guardian.
With that, our hero saves his nephew, and our evildoers get their comeuppance. For violating the Attorney-at-Law Act, Attorney Park becomes disgraced and leaves the firm penniless since Young-ju cut all ties with him. As for Young-ju, her husband treats her distantly and tells her that the limited parental rights was his idea. He sees through her ploy and says that they should just live quietly as their daughter’s parents.
Sung-han isn’t the only one who gets his “happily ever after” though, and the final two episodes spend some time sending off a few of its other characters as well. With the help of friends and her son, Seo-jin musters up the courage to fire back at the negative commenters, and with Sung-han’s blessing, she returns to the radio station as a host.
As for our lovebirds, they reaffirm their feelings for each other, and Hyung-geun assures So-yeon that he has truly moved on from his wife since she seems happy now. So-yeon wonders if this means she can be happy, too, and the unspoken line keeping them apart disappears once and for all.
Realizing that she never got to fulfill her wishes, So-yeon plans to go on a two-month trip to Europe and invites Hyung-geun to come. After thinking on it, he accepts the invitation, and the two look the happiest they have ever been.
There are also a few other loose ends that wrap up this episode such as Jun taking care of the young troll’s case and Jung-shik confronting Attorney Park. Alas, with only twelve episodes, I feel like these two characters in particular served more as comedic fodder than anything else. In the grand scheme of things, this was a story about Sung-han, and in that regard, I think Jun and Jung-shik served their purposes.
While a certain degree of underdeveloped side characters makes practical sense, I wish the show fleshed out Ju-hwa more, and in turn, made Sung-han’s endgame more explicit from the beginning. In hindsight, he probably gave up his career to gain custody of his nephew rather than to uncover his sister’s death or her messy divorce. Hence, he became a lawyer because he knew no one else would protect him and Gi-young. There are elements of this throughout the show when I reflect back on it (e.g., the grapes, his criteria for choosing cases, the dwindling visitations). If the creators brought these hints more to the forefront, it would have naturally built tension and made the ending more climatic. Instead, the creators wanted to manufacture conflict by rushing Sung-han, but this feels counterintuitive. Why have Sung-han tell the audience that he has been planning this from the beginning than show him floundering with no game plan? The building blocks are there; I just wish the creators used them to weave a more cohesive story.
The other direction the show could have gone is developing Ju-hwa’s character to make the final case more impactful. What we know of Ju-hwa is always through other people’s eyes, but even then, her relationship with Sung-han is less prominent than the last-minute montage between her and Lady Ma. Despite being the catalyst to Sung-han’s change, the show leaves her a mystery, so rather than her life, her death becomes the most important thing about her character. As a result, I had a hard time connecting with Sung-han’s motivation and sadness when it came to his sister because the show never explained the extent of his loss. While losing a sibling is devastating, I wish the show portrayed a more nuance depiction of guilt and longing because the most meaningful interaction we saw between Sung-han and his sister was his nightmare — which may not have even been real.
Though the final case could have been handled better, the results were still satisfying, and I was surprisingly pleased with the endings for our villains. Each and every one of our antagonists (including the chairman) was motivated by greed, and consequentially, they saw everyone else in the same light. They couldn’t imagine another way of living, and thus, their avarice and hubris became their downfall.
Even when given a chance to repent, Attorney Park refused to change because he thought he could never lose. He prides himself for lying and cheating because money is the only thing he values, so it’s a fitting end that he loses that very thing he cherishes so much.
In Young-ju’s case, she tried so hard to steal everything from Ju-hwa, but instead of being satisfied with what she had, she became greedy and caused her own ruin. Keeping Gi-young in the family was never Young-ju’s goal because her desire has always been about control. Thus, her punishment is not losing the case — that is her husband’s penance for his wrongdoings — but instead, the stripping of her power. She loses her husband, her job, and her standing in the household, and is met with the ending she always feared: living a quiet life as a nobody.
The best part of the show for me is Sung-han and his relationships, and the ending did not disappoint on that front. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a drama portray older male friendships in this manner, and for that alone, I think the show has some merit. It was refreshing to see Sung-han and his friends openly cry in front of each other, and rather than shy away from their emotions, they comfort and acknowledge each other’s feelings.
I think the show, too, knew its strengths, which is why it ended with the three friends drinking together outside of a convenience store. Hyung-geun and Jung-shik have stuck with Sung-han through it all, so it’s only appropriate that they revel in his joy as well. While many things have changed for them, somethings remain the same, and it was nice to see Sung-han finally being happy not just because he won but also because his friends have been and will always be by his side. Overall, it’s a whimsical ending for a whimsical show, and though it wasn’t anything groundbreaking, I enjoyed it for what it was.
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Tags: Divorce Attorney Shin, Han Hye-jin, Jo Seung-woo, Jung Moon-sung, Kim Sung-kyun
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1 Blue (@mayhemf)
April 10, 2023 at 4:04 PM
I never thought I would enjoy a legal drama, especially coming right after Strangers again. I found the whole legal set up very real. There were no dramatic court room scenes with twists and turns or plot twist cliff hangers. It felt like a court and everyone were respectful and well behaved.
The best part was the friends. Love their friendship, quirks et al. I also liked how they supported each other, made fun of each other, pulled each others legs, even be obnoxious. Friends who laugh and cry together have my whole heart.
My only complaint is that we didn’t end the drama with a camping scene. I wanted Gi Yeong to go camping with his uncle and even wanted him to make friends with the other kid. I wanted to see the uncles pampering them with love.
I will just imagine this in my head :)
I would totally watch a season two. I think there is enough material to go on. We have interesting side characters and so much potential.
I totally forgive the writers (39) after this drama.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 10, 2023 at 8:45 PM
‘My only complaint is that we didn’t end the drama with a camping scene. I wanted Gi Yeong to go camping with his uncle and even wanted him to make friends with the other kid. I wanted to see the uncles pampering them with love.’ 👈 this would have been the perfect ending scene wouldn’t it? Such a missed opportunity.
I also agree the way they used their friendship to support Sunghan through the good and bad times was how I was expecting Thirty nine to play out and we didn’t get to see anything near as good as this.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 4:51 AM
I would’ve loved a camp scene fade away
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owl 🦉 🫰
April 10, 2023 at 11:40 PM
Atty Shin making a gooey s’more for nephew Gi Young on a camping trip would be awesome! And a piano solo would’ve been nice ~
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 2:58 AM
Yep. I was watching Legal high recently and the contrast is incredible. Here, the court scenes were dignified and believable
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too_much_tv
April 11, 2023 at 4:11 AM
Yes! When Sung-an started drinking alone in the daytime in front of a convenience store, I couldn’t believe it. How is that a happy ending? That’s a public service announcement about red flags for alcoholism. Yes, his friends joined him and they made it seem like a party. All I could think was, that poor kid! Which I didn’t think throughout the series. K-dramas have conditioned me to see heavy drinking as normal. But this ending made me really uncomfortable.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
April 11, 2023 at 4:37 AM
I was fine with it since it was supposed to show that he had made peace and now can drink wine.
The kid was in school 😅 lol
Yeah, they need to cut down on the drinking.
Let’s hope it was one moment of celebration and Sung-Ah does a decent job of being home and caring as a guardian. First order of things would be for him to hire a good caretaker/cook who can provide healthy meals for the kid. This junk eating won’t work.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 4:38 AM
I was querying the drinking too and wondering about calling the courtesy driver service and childcare arrangements. There is way too much association of celebration/sadness etc can be managed with a drink and snacks so it was good there was company too.
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2 jerrykuvira
April 10, 2023 at 4:06 PM
I felt rather empty at the end of it all. Not the bad review kind of empty, but the good one where you feel that it wasn't complete or it hasn't accomplished it's purposes and you strike on some of the things that made it incomplete @lovepark . Just like you said, I enjoyed the show for it's many strengths and the core of the story - Gi-yeong's custody. But some fleshes felt...rushed or stunted.
I was denied some skinship between Kim So-yeon and Hyeong-geon. I guess I won't be seeing any Lion 🥺.
Well, I felt ahead of the drama here. Granny's game plan became clear to me quite early and I was surprised it took Sung-han a while to get to it. It made me love Granny the more though. 50% is a fight. And I wished she got it.
At the end Chairman Seo got the divorce he was saved from facing. Can he not repent? Or filter his thoughts before talking. I can't believe he thought the worst of Sung-han after Sung-han saved his and Granny Ma's face.
It was truly fitting that they ended with the trio. It was a center of everything anyway.
Gi-yeong's case made me feel a lot though. His father never really knew him until the court proceedings and it hurt.
And I liked how the trio handled Jung-shik's well-intentioned meddling. It was a relief.
And I'm so glad where Jin Yeong-ju is. That insecurity of hers became her reality. I guess Granny Ma's reason for disliking her shocked her to the marrows. It's not all about money. I'm not wishing but I'll just say : it's cool that Jeong-guk stepped up at the tail end of it all. Protected his son emotionally and inheritance-wise, while stripping Jin Yeong-ju of her shield and weapons. It was satisfying but I wanted him to have been giving her some little doses before the one fell swoop.
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owl 🦉 🫰
April 10, 2023 at 11:41 PM
Of all dramas that could have been 16 episodes, this was one of them.
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PYC
April 11, 2023 at 9:19 AM
Oh yes, I felt I had only started the drama not long ago and then it ended. Still so much can be explored.
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3 Asha13
April 10, 2023 at 5:24 PM
Episode 11 and 12 dragged. I loved Ma Geum Hui so much this episode. I was wondering when shin would hire himself as his nephew’s lawyer. I was like “Wheeeeee” when that finally happened.
I’m sorry, but did Jeong Shik try to bribe a witness? Is that not a crime in Korea?
I liked the ramyeon lady from Episode 1. Glad she got a happy ending.
While I am glad that Jeong Guk grew a pair, I am disappointed he didn’t leave his evil wife. It didn’t feel like she was punished enough.
One thing I really really liked was that there was no romance between Sung Han and Seo Jin. I liked them both and friendship seemed the most appropriate thing for them.
One thing I’m at a loss to understand - I thought he studied law with some grand plan in mind. But we didn’t see any of that. He didn’t realize just how bad it was for his nephew, he never got round to avenging his sister’s divorce or death, and the grapes - well, what was he gonna do once he’d colored them all?
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Britney
April 10, 2023 at 8:04 PM
I didn't understand any of Jeong Sik's actions except that it was supposed to be excused because he was acting from an emotional place but seriously, bribery & stalking? How was that supposed to accomplish anything?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 10, 2023 at 8:54 PM
‘ I’m sorry, but did Jeong Shik try to bribe a witness? Is that not a crime in Korea?’ 👈 thank you I had to stop the show and go on a rant as I literally thought he had in that one action completely undermined everything that had been done to try to build a strong case. I was surprised the corrupt lawyer didn’t take the money and then talk about it in the stand to leave the most impact. I just could not believe that Jeongshik was not able to read the room and see the implications.
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jerrykuvira
April 10, 2023 at 10:32 PM
Especially after the stalking case. I thought he had learnt his lesson. Alas! He went to do something more damning.
For clarity sake @asha13 the money wasn't a bribe from Jeong-shik's POV even though it is still a bribe nonetheless. Jeong-shik wanted him to say the truth and use the money to pay for the penalty for breaching the attorney act. That way, Yu-seok saying the truth won't come at any financial cost to Yu-seok himself.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 1:18 AM
Yes, we could see it was desperation that led him to make this appeal using the lawyer’s only area of interest, money. The problem was not being able to trust him to deliver his end of the bargain and knowing how the law would see it. It was just hard to see past the devastation that this best of intentions action would cause for the very people he was trying to save.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 2:14 AM
I see that his intentions were to compensate for loss but as @reply1988 said, a court would’ve seen it as bribery. I actually expected the corrupt lawyer to expose it in court like @jerrykuvira said, but thankfully he didn’t
Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 2:48 AM
Sorry. It was @ reply1988 that said they were surprised the lawyer didn’t expose this in court
kdramacurious
April 11, 2023 at 2:05 AM
Genuine question: is it legally considered a bribe if all you're doing is paying someone to tell the truth?
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 2:14 AM
I believe a judge would see it as a bribe.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 4:42 AM
Yes, because it is not clear if they would have given a different answer or not turned up if there was no money involved. I think because of the risk of people saying anything if paid to do so it’s a blanket ban, but his idea of compensation for the consequences of telling the truth would make sense outside of the court process.
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kdramacurious
April 12, 2023 at 5:53 AM
Oh, super interesting. I guess I was thinking of it from the standpoint of cases sometimes having an expert witness and them being compensated for their time when they appear on the stand. But I guess that's a different category of witness altogether.
larelle79
April 11, 2023 at 12:38 PM
It was not a bribe, it was the penalty for the perjury charge he would have gotten from the bar.
Jeong shik explicitly said this. If Attorney Park had taken it seriously and went and told the truth, he would have been in a better place.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 1:09 PM
Sure @larelle79. Not arguing that he meant to bribe him. I am thinking purely from the perspective of a judge, if he heard about this. Money was offered wrt his testimony. Whatever his intent may have been, a judge would look at it as a bribe.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 1:14 PM
Let me reword that. Whatever his intention, his actions constituted what a court of law would consider a bribe
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4 Diana Hansen
April 10, 2023 at 5:41 PM
I just finished this and I loved it! Humanistic, well rounded cast, hearfelt stories, awesome child actors, realistic wonderful ending, good music, good food, what's not to love! Especially Jo Seung-woo! he could make a fortune selling toothpicks on the street. He's that good of an actor/musical actor. Wish I could see him in a musical too.
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5 Britney
April 10, 2023 at 6:27 PM
Hmmm, so I watched the entire series and I still don't understand why it resonated with people the way it did. The only thing I can think of is the relationships featured; particularly the friendship between the 3 guys. It's nice seeing such openly supportive friendships and I think it's kinda novel that the men are so open about their feelings.
I don't even know what to say about the cases. I don't remember how many cases were featured in this but all or most of them just made me go "huh?! Seriously? What was even the point?"
I just didn't feel the emotional impact others felt such as with the cyberbully/malicious commenter case. Her mom abandons her so she takes out her anger & hurt on a kid becomes *his* mom fought for him. Sure, fine, it's a messed up situation and she's a mixed up kid who got screwed over by having a terrible excuse of a mother but it didn't necessarily make me feel for her, it's just how I thought on a logical level and that's what this entirely drama was for me: think, no feel.
The same things I said about this show in last week's comment section seems to still be the case this week which was something like all the stepmother's actions were for money and status?
And are we led to believe their marriage resulted from an affair? She mentioned how she put her mind to getting him and if the mother in law had her way, the husband would've never divorced his first wife. Plus she threatened to kick the son out of the family. Then why not just let his mother keep custody of him?! I do not understand! She has a daughter with the husband, why does she need the son or his shares? And again, she has a daughter so why was it beyond her comprehension that an uncle could just genuinely care about his nephew?
Maybe the villians got comeuppence but it didn't feel satisfying to me. That lawyer committed perjury and what happened with that? I'm supposed care because the stepmom somehow reneged on the cafe she gave him? The stepmom will still live in the house and still have money, they just will barely talk which is pretty much what was shown before since the husband was barely a presence in the first place. The mother in law is getting a divorce but does she still get the agreed upon 50% or do they go through new negotiations?
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Nomorelisa
April 10, 2023 at 7:33 PM
I totally agree with you that the main plot and side plots make no sense and leave us the audience scratching our heads. Although I did enjoy the show and the humor, it seems to me the writers did a bad job or could it be the editing as maybe 12 episodes are insufficient. The three amigos are the ones that carry the show otherwise it will be a flop.
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kdramacurious
April 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM
Yes. The ending left me feeling hollow, though to be fair, I did wonder how much of it is due to the story, how much of it is due to the acting, how much of it is due to the subtitles possibly not being nuanced enough for non-KR speakers to fully appreciate the show, and how much of it is due to all the other things going on in my life right now. Maybe some combination of all of the above.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 2:54 AM
“ Her mom abandons her so she takes out her anger & hurt on a kid becomes *his* mom fought for him. ”. Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too
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empressgirl
April 11, 2023 at 7:25 AM
Yes, it's called "sour grapes". 🤣🤣
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 7:40 AM
Thankfully this behaviour whilst unacceptable makes sense in a teen, who due to stage of development does not have the skills or experiences to address her problems without impacting negatively on others. It was also a good way to show that this is exactly the type of attitude and warped logic that would manifest into the step mum’s character. She was rich, her family lost the money so she was determined to go get herself a rich man and remove any risks of losing access to his money no matter how ‘shameless’ she needed to be.
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Britney
April 11, 2023 at 8:34 AM
Keeping with the grapes theme of the show haha
And what was the deal with the grapes and the wine? Was he drinking wine when he found out his sister died or something?
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Babylilo
April 16, 2023 at 11:00 AM
As far as Yeong-Ju wanting to secure custody of Gi-Yeong, I could see two plausible motivations:
1. As the eldest son, Gi-Yeong stood to inherit the bulk of his family’s considerable power and wealth. Having parental custody put Yeong-Ju in a better position to try to steal his patrimony for her daughter. We saw her attempt this maneuver when she asked Chairman Grandpa for Gi-Yeong’s shares.
2. Her jealousy of and hatred for Gi-Yeong’s mother drove her to destroy her in the cruelest way possible—by taking away her son. She was like a spoiled child (an EVIL spoiled child) who holds onto something she doesn’t particularly want…simply to prevent anyone else from having it.
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Cay_sbtgoG
April 16, 2023 at 11:05 PM
I totally get what you mean. Not that I don't enjoy the show. I did. It's just people sees things differently. I couldn't bring myself watching Taxi Driver. The show itself is insane. I have to stop using my brain if I had to watch it. Which I can't and I won't. But many love the show. So, no worry. You're entitled to your feeling.
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6 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 10, 2023 at 9:35 PM
Thanks @lovepark for the weecap this week and across the series.
This show ended well in that the nephew was finally away from a place where his only joy was being with his Uncle and the peace he had in the time out of the home with his chauffeur. It was appalling example of the impact of emotional abuse from a bitter step mum and an indifferent dad.
The fact that both the grandfather and grandmother saw the step mum for who she really was and let her know that to her face was one of the highlights but the fact they allowed her to have way too much power over their son and grandson was unforgivable. Her husband was so weak it was ridiculous that he decided at the last minute to find out just who he was living with and allowing to impact on his children. I wonder how his daughter will turn out living in a household where there is no love between her parents and her half brother disappeared out of her life like that.
I was very concerned with Jungshik’s behaviour and it’s potential very serious impact on the case. Stalking was bad enough but bribing a witness was just beyond stupid. The fact the lawyer didn’t take the money was the real surprise to me as he was so low and calculating I was sure he would use it to his advantage.
I think the final acceptance of Jun into the fold was nice to see even if the praise was buried. The new addition of females into the friendship circle was well done and I can see them bonding well into the future.
I thought the development of some of the characters was lacking. What was the point of the female character in the office she didn’t really add much to the story although she seemed well integrated into the banter re Jun. Jungshik was also underdeveloped and he seemed to be very emotional in his decision making and unable to read the room. The teasing banter and isolating of Jungshik didn’t always land well for me. The boys turning up on the camping trip was a step too far if it had of been a romantic get together but it did emphasise that being with him meant being with his friends and she fitted right in with them.
Having older actors leading a story and male friendships front and centre was a pleasant change and it was an enjoyable ride.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
April 11, 2023 at 4:06 AM
The father didn’t know his son was quietly abused. Because he always saw him well fed and taken care of while he was at home. His school, tuitions, classes etc. And she was constantly telling him ‘four of us are family’. I think the actions if son and his diagnosis was news to him. He was basically an absentee father and the role of parenting was purely on the woman. I agree with you about the other kid. Yeah her mom will show her affection but still she is growing up in a sad environment.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 4:57 AM
“ I wonder how his daughter will turn out living in a household where there is no love between her parents and her half brother disappeared out of her life like that.” Absolutely right. In earlier episodes she appeared to be very fond of her brother. This will definitely warp her. The husband should’ve divorced his wife and created a stable and loving environment for both his kids
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 5:04 AM
I do wonder what he wanted from life as he had experienced two very different wives and I don’t feel he was connected to his wife or child in either version of his married life. He was so absent even when present that he felt like he did the bare minimum to have an easy life. He had maintained the status of a respectful Chaebol son but even when he was with his mum viewing the house I didn’t register who he was for most of the scene.
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Asha13
April 11, 2023 at 5:14 AM
I also see this in real life. People having kids because that’s what everyone else does, not being invested in their children, their emotional well-being, their future, etc.
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Britney
April 11, 2023 at 8:42 AM
I think if the nephew wanted it, Sung Han would let him see his sister; it's just the stepmom probably wouldn't allow it.
But apparently they're moving abroad anyway so who even knows.
And with Sung Han not being at his law office, what happens with it? Is it all on Jun to keep it running? Is Jun out of a job?
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7 Bunny Sonaki
April 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM
I would have liked the show better without the Seo family drama. The stepmother took too much time which might have been better spent on the side characters.
I wished the show would keep Sung-han's backstory and the final case of getting ki-young's custody but shift other things to the background. perhaps, like @lovepark says we could have focused more on the relationship between Ju-hwa and Sung-han and make it the motive why he wants to get his nephew back. We could keep the stepmother evil but without all that focus.
I wanted to see Sung-han meeting many people, learning and growing along them. That way we could have the final case as Ki-young's custody case but with different dynamics.
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8 geminirat
April 10, 2023 at 11:42 PM
Thank you, @lovepark, for the weecap! I enjoyed this drama specially with the friendship trio. It seems like whoever becomes a friend of one becomes a friend of all three. I know the story didn't cultivate a loveline between Sung-han and Seo-jin but it would have been nice to see the two boys interact, something like a playdate. I love Gi-yeong's grandma. Because of her love for her original daughter-in-law, she will sacrifice even herself for her grandson, Jung-hwa's son.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
April 11, 2023 at 4:09 AM
I am actually glad they didn’t force a romantic line between Sung-Han and Seo-Jin. They did hit something in the later episodes while he went ‘I am offended’ when she was being harassed online by one id. I am glad they didn’t jump from there to a romance. They left it open. But yes, I badly wanted the kids to meet and make friends.
For once the show gave us a nice chaebol wife. Someone who valued love and had gratitude.
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9 _mplo_
April 11, 2023 at 3:35 AM
Was it mentioned what led to Ju Hwa's divorce as they seemed happy initially? Was it implied that Young Ju pushed her way between the two of them leading to an affair and eventually forcing their divorce? Ju Hwa's husband (I can't for the life of me remember his name, he had the personality of a door knob throughout the show) seemed to be sweet to her judging from their phone conversation in the flashback scene, but we saw none of that personality with him and Young Ju.
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PYC
April 11, 2023 at 9:29 AM
It appears the 2nd wife knew the husband before his marriage to Sung-Han’s sister. Then he worked overseas and she went there to pursue him.
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ys
April 11, 2023 at 12:08 PM
Yes, that phone call from the flashback was so surprising! It showed that he had a loving and teasing relationship with Juhwa and a good relationship with his mother back then.
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10 Cay_sbtgoG
April 11, 2023 at 4:20 AM
While I fully admit that the show is on no par with My Mister, I got the same vibe after watching this through. Both are heart-wrenching (Gi Yeong story is devastating) but at the same time sparking hope for its characters (mainly the trio friends) kind of drama. I cried for Gi Yeong coz the truth is no kid deserves that kind of situation (being neglected).
Onto the friendship. I adore each and all of them with their quirky and jokes. When you've know each other for that long, you don't have the need to fill the silent. You're comfortable just being together. You go extra mile with them. No amount of mistakes can change your opinion about them (In My Mister style, I know you.) While some say Jong Shik often felt left out, I don't think that's the case here. Yes, the other two spend time more due to work, but they love and care each other deeply. While people might expect Sung Han will get more attention throughout the drama, we got the story of Hyeong Gun and So Yeon instead. We got to see how fiercely Jong Shik loves, despite his choice of actions. I cry just watching the beauty of their friendship. I like the loyal, silly and big heart of Choi Jun. While I feel bad he feels left out at times (I suspect he is just as envy as us with their friendship), I understand that you don't compete with longtime friends no matter how hard you try. Ms. Ma feels like a testament to what you sow is what you reap. It's satisfying to watch her silently caring and supporting Gi Yeong. I love the idea of Seo Jin redemption after the scandal with the help of Hyeon Woo and her closest friends.
Now about the antagonists. While I believe some people are capable of repenting and changing, some are just pure evil (Young Joo and Yu Seok). The worst of all is Jeong Guk, the father. He is enabling his wife's evil way to Gi Yeong just being quiet and agreeable. How does someone do that to a kid after doing horrible thing to your ex-wife just to get custody. I overjoyed when the judge granted Sung Han the custody.
The cases often times feels rushed, but the writer is brave enough to tackle those issues. It's not the best of the best, but love the show. Glad Cho Seung Woo taking this role and again proving he's true to his goals in acting.
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11 Kafiyah Bello
April 11, 2023 at 4:22 AM
I was left a little hollow with the ending. The friendship is the only thing that consistently made sense to me. When Sung Han was fighting for his nephew, all I could this was his nephew's sister was also in a toxic situation. That woman is unhealthy. Why is his nephew's dad still married to that awful woman. He doesn't even seem to like her. There are a million more whys to me, so although the friendship was beautiful, the rest of the drama fell flat for me.
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12 Kurama
April 11, 2023 at 4:46 AM
This drama was nice but was superficial.
I'm curious about many things :
- Seo Jeong-Guk : Why he divorced, why he remarried, why he ignores his son during the whole time. It's only at the end when he said he still wanted to be the official father to let his son keeping his heritage.
- How the 3 friends met, they were very different but completed each other.
- Why the ML became a divorce lawyer, why he stopped the piano, etc. We have clues and we can guess, but the fact he never adressed it himself is really weird.
- What was the point of the FL's story? I don't think it was really the good drama for her story. She working in a lawyer office didn't make sense...
Their friendship was really the best part.
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larelle79
April 11, 2023 at 12:36 PM
Mom mentioned in the conversation at the table, when she was trying to persuade Jeong guk to give up custody, that Young gu took out a loan and followed Jeong-guk to New York and they had relations there. Considering Jeong guk and Jeu ha had been seprated/divorced at the time of her death for 3 years and their daughter looked older than that so the math was mathing. And people also seem to forget that the sister was going to law school so she can go back to court and fight the custody battle. That was part of the phone call as well and part of why her brother went himself.
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Kurama
April 11, 2023 at 12:56 PM
But again, it's still not clear.
The sister's life and death had so much impact on the ML's life, that it would have been better if they adressed what happened and how it affectated him and he was dealing with the fact he quit music.
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larelle79
April 11, 2023 at 1:48 PM
It was said. In the show. That is how I knew.
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Kurama
April 11, 2023 at 1:54 PM
I know. Some parts were said, some were implied but I don't care. What I wanted, it's the fact the ML adressed them emotionally!
13 PYC
April 11, 2023 at 9:51 AM
Overall, I like this drama which is not the most polished or coherent production. BUT, how often do we get a whimsical piece with lovely and kind souls like this? I was surprised to find out in the final episode that the radio PD was so guilt-trapped as the one introducing Seo-jin to her husband that she felt the need to do the utmost to ‘compensate’.
Indeed, this is a drama where the parts are bigger than the sum. There are so many side plots or arcs that I like apart from the universally acknowledged friendship between the three guys. And if I think back in 2 years time what I remember from this show, I’ll certainly remember the friendship, Lady Ma, the noodle couple, and the two boys who suffer from marriage breakdown.
What if this drama were made more polished or coherent in the traditional sense, it may become another melo courtroom drama. In balance, I much prefer what we have seen that differentiates it from other dramas. The most memorable scene to me is unfortunately that cctv footage showing Gi-young binge-eating and then aimlessly resting his head on the table. So heartbreaking!
Finally, could anyone enlighten me on the grapes please? The best I can come up is that each grape is a case and by the time of all grapes / cases completed and colored, Sung-Han would have acquired the skills and expertise to tackle his own case. This deduction came from what Hyung-geun said at the beginning of the show that SH would spring to action when all the grapes are colored. What do you people think?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 11, 2023 at 10:06 AM
The grapes were definitely related to the number of cases he had covered to gain the skill set to then make it a high likelihood that he could win his case. What didn't seem clear was what he planned to do to make the case. That’s why it made no sense to me to pick up the fisherman case just because it was dangled in front of him as it was an unnecessary distraction from the case he should have been working; his own.
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14 ys
April 11, 2023 at 1:43 PM
The women on this show!
Seojin’s character and arc were pointless. Could have been, should have been, a separate show that Han Hyejin fans would watch.
Youngju was responsible for many things, but she didn’t cause Juhwa’s death. Being mean to someone on the phone isn’t a crime. I grant that by that time, post-divorce, Youngju was wearing Juhwa down with emotional abuse and threats. But Youngju didn’t kill her even though the show, at least in the beginning, wanted us to think that she did. Didn’t we all think this was a murder mystery?
I thought the actress playing Youngju did a fantastic job. Her restrained performance, all quiet rage and held-back tears, was impressive. She was never shrill and never gave us crazy-eyes, and only lost her sh*t once, at the police station with Sunghan.
It’s a tie for my favorite female character in this show between Soyeon and Madam Ma. I liked the way both characters were written. I’m a longtime fan of Cha Hwayun/Madam Ma whether good characters or mean, rich or poor, and Kang Malkeum/Soyeon has my full attention whenever she appears on any show.
Ah screw it, it’s Ramyun shop grandma goddess Kim Haesook!
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PYC
April 12, 2023 at 2:01 AM
The actress playing Youngju is a certainly a level above many others playing similar roles. She raises the bar indeed making her character even more menacing.
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15 snancy
April 11, 2023 at 2:43 PM
It's funny, I agree with almost all of the comments - both good and bad. There was a lot to love with this drama, but it definitely was flawed. The thing that REALLY bugged me was when Seo Jeong-Guk testified that he obtained Shin Ju-Hwa's mental health records in the US because they were married at the time. I don't know the law in Korea, but being married is not reason to break HIPAA and state laws around confidentiality.
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Nomorelisa
April 11, 2023 at 9:00 PM
The lawyer representing Ju-Hwa's husband should be punish more than just losing his dream cafe.
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Kafiyah Bello
April 12, 2023 at 4:19 AM
Lol, I said the same thing, they tried to cover by saying he filed the proper paperwork to get the information, but like you said HIPAA would still prevent that unless she authorized it.
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16 KDramaJoy
April 12, 2023 at 9:50 AM
My journey through almost 100 kdrama tv series over the last 4 years began with Cho Seung Woo. Stranger was my first KDrama, which then spurred me on to watch all CSW Netflix dramas. I discovered Dramabeans as I was trying to understand Sisiphus. Even though Bean was not able to clarify Sisiphus script inconsistencies (perhaps no one can), Bean recappers are generally unparalleled, I think. Thanks to you all!
Kdrama men who dominate on screen possess a variety of individual characteristics: think - androgynous machismo (Lee Joong Gi - S carlet Heart), Cary Grant grace (Song Joong Ki - Vincenzo), handsome athleticism (Ji Chang Wook - Healer), stature & smile (Yoo Ji Tae - Healer), poker-face charm (Lee Byung Hun - Mr Sunshine, etc). IMO, CSW has an appeal first associated with classic American actors: think - emotionally tough Bogart, everyman Robert Mitchum, relatable Tom Hanks.
Divorce Attorney Shin was comfortable enough to overcome plot deficiencies so well worth watching for KDrama lovers. Special mention:
* The friend's freely expressed vulnerabilities, emotions, and love for one another. Jung Moon Sung as our hapless but loveable realtor - contrast the same actor's amazing performance as the loathsome corporate president in Life.
* Micro expressions of Han Hye Jin told us much about her emotions, in contrast to those KDrama actresses whose acting method consist exclusively of looking beautiful for the camera.
* The two children were great, as well as CSW and HHJ interactions with them.
An aside: Shin Sung Han wore an Auburn (my alma mater) sweatshirt in a scene where he sat alone drinking much wine.
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bong-soo
April 12, 2023 at 5:51 PM
@kdramajoy, Great first comment. Welcome aboard.
I am a fan of CSW but Jung Moon-sung was the hook that drew me in. I love JMS as a ‘good’ guy like here and in HP. Some folks (obviously you are excepted) may not know that JMS excels at playing b**tards (think of his award winning performance as evil Prince Yi Tan in HAECHI (2019) ( Viki US). A couple of times he gave that look in DAS although he never lost it.
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KDramaJoy
April 14, 2023 at 10:42 AM
Thanks @bong-soo. Indeed, JMS’s character and performance are among the many highlights of HP for me. I have not seen Haechi but maybe I will check it out.
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KDramaJoy
April 16, 2023 at 11:33 AM
Btw, cool name -- Healer roof scene in which Bong Soo arranges celebratory drinks for Young Shin is perfection in my book. I daresay that Cary Grant looks down from heaven and smiles at both Song Joong Ki and Ji Chang Wook for carrying on (3 generations later) his sophisticated grace and handsome comedic charm. I preferred Healer to K2 because of Park Min Young’s portrayal of the strong FL, who did not demurely wait around to be rescued.
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bong-soo
April 16, 2023 at 2:27 PM
Thanks. Probably my favorite scene in HEALER is the makeover at the salon scene in episode 9.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
April 15, 2023 at 1:13 PM
Welcome to the beanies comments section! Looking forward to seeing more of your comments. Wow, you have watched a lot of dramas including some classics😊
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KDramaJoy
April 16, 2023 at 11:44 AM
Thanks, @Reply1988. Cool name, one of my favorite Kdramas.
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17 Roman
August 23, 2024 at 1:56 PM
Interesting comments from other beanies. My 2 cents is this was a well written drama. I especially liked that Sung-han did not speak much. He let others have last words and kept his cards close to his chest. "I have one (or two) questions for you" and left it at that.
I also liked there were no other pairings and the one they had did grow organically and really was well played during a camping outing where possibilities were dashed with "I can't drink because one of us has to drive back"
Nothing was over the top which is greatly appreciated. Nice subdued dramatic moments. The scenes showing the accident were very jarring and went to show how powerful words can be in changing the course of someone's life.
Different type of hero which I liked.
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