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Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16 (Final)

Our story is coming to an end, meaning it’s time for our characters to graduate into the next stages of their lives. Despite the dark turn things took last week, this finale takes a somewhat more hopeful approach, allowing most of our characters to grow, break free of old expectations, and step into a wide-open future.

 
EPISODES 15-16

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

Though ready to admit something’s shady about Dong-hee, Chi-yeol plays it safe, wanting to be certain before outright accusing him of murder. His worst suspicions are confirmed, however, when he investigates Dong-hee’s home and finds evidence that 1) Hae-yi was held here the night of the kidnapping, and 2) Dong-hee was Su-hyun’s younger brother — the latter of which he hadn’t yet realized. The final pieces fall together just in time for Chi-yeol to stop Dong-hee from a second attempt at killing both Hae-yi and Haeng-ja.

Chi-yeol chases Dong-hee to the roof and urges Dong-hee to turn himself in, if only for Su-hyun’s sake. Ignoring Chi-yeol’s pleas, Dong-hee says in defeat that he has nothing left to protect. Then he steps off the roof and plunges to his death. The complete, tragic story of his life is revealed to the public, with excessive competition over education named the true culprit behind it all. It’s very sudden, but from there the show is able to focus on resolving the other characters’ stories.

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

For starters, Hae-yi’s biological mother, HAENG-JA (Bae Hae-sun), has been making a general nuisance of herself, breezing in to take over Hae-yi’s care while demanding everyone else cater to her every whim. When Hae-yi finally wakes up, though, she makes it unmistakably clear that the mother she wants taking care of her is Haeng-sun.

Once Haeng-ja gets wind of Haeng-sun’s rich boyfriend, her eyes practically light up with dollar signs. She’s scheming to get as much as she can out of Chi-yeol, but Hae-yi overhears her plans and threatens to kill herself if Haeng-ja ever asks Haeng-sun or Chi-yeol for money again.

After wrestling with conflicted emotions, Hae-yi decides the best thing she can do to protect Haeng-sun from being taken advantage of is to draw clear line between the two sisters. So at her own welcome home party, Hae-yi announces that she’s decided to move back to Japan with her mother.

This is a disappointing shock to literally everyone (myself included), but as Haeng-sun stubbornly keeps taking care of Hae-yi and Hae-yi stubbornly keeps rejecting her, Haeng-ja’s eyes are opened to just how much these two love each other. So, Haeng-ja decides to bow out and return to Japan alone, leaving behind a genuinely sweet letter for Haeng-sun and taking with her only a few of Hae-yi’s baby photos.

Following Sun-jae’s confession about the leaked exam, Su-hee rallies the other moms to stage a protest demanding his immediate expulsion. But Sun-jae is ready to move on anyway and willfully drops out of school. With a little encouragement from Haeng-sun, he finally works up the courage to face Hae-yi again and apologize. He also works up the courage to (clumsily) confess his feelings, which Hae-yi puts off answering until after the college entrance exam.

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

As for Seo-jin, her estranged husband steps in to defend her in court. Since Sun-jae confessed and neither he nor Seo-jin ultimately benefitted from cheating, Seo-jin is let off with a hefty fine and a suspension from her job. For the first time in a very long time, their whole family shares a meal together, marking the beginning of reconciliation for all four of them.

On the opposite end of the reconciliation spectrum, Su-hee catches her husband cheating and physically attacks him in front of all the other moms. This makes her an object of public disgrace. Su-hee still tries to keep a lid on the scandal at home so it won’t affect Su-ah’s grades, but after hearing her parents scream at each other about it, Su-ah asks her mother to back off — she doesn’t mind if they get divorced, and she’d like some space herself.

As all the loose ends start to tie up, one more (tiny) scandal breaks: Chi-yeol is photographed having coffee with his former pianist blind date. It was nothing more than a friendly goodbye, but online commenters use it as an opportunity to make elitist remarks against Haeng-sun.

Chi-yeol takes his new assistant’s advice to hurry up and propose… but Haeng-sun beats him to it. They both show up with rings, and she lets him blunder through a hurried explanation of what really happened before matter-of-factly saying, “Let’s get married.” She wants everyone to know once and for all that she and Chi-yeol are together. They happily wear both sets of rings and agree to hold off the wedding until Haeng-sun earns her sports instructor certification (her longtime secret dream).

Two years later, Jae-woo and Young-joo have quietly gotten married, while Haeng-sun is still studying for her certification. Hae-yi and Sun-jae are in university together, and so is Su-ah, still pursuing academic excellence but looking worlds happier (and potentially getting romantically involved with Geon-hu). When Sun-jae points out Hae-yi still hasn’t given him an answer, she rolls her eyes and then shyly pecks him on the cheek, and they run off hand-in-hand.

On the day of Haeng-sun’s next exam, Chi-yeol is so nervous he can hardly concentrate on teaching. He rushes out as soon as it’s over to call her, and then bursts back into the classroom and screams in celebration — she passed! As they walk down the crowded street together later, they decide to throw caution to the wind and kiss right there in public. After all, they’re getting married, so who cares about scandals anymore?

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

Despite a few questionable decisions along the way, I’d say Crash Course in Romance ends on a decent high note. Episode 16 especially felt like a return to form after the whole kidnapping and coma incident, and there was a lot I loved about the various characters’ resolutions — so much so, in fact, that I wished they’d had just a little more time to be developed.

I think if I were to make some changes, I might keep Dong-hee being manipulative and controlling of Chi-yeol behind-the-scenes, but without ever resorting to murder. Then there would be more time to focus on the core families — our leads, Hae-yi and her two mothers, Su-ah and her parents, and Sun-jae’s family — with their individual but interconnected journeys. And we could still have the parallel between tiger moms and someone who wants to personally engineer his idol’s “success” even if that means keeping said idol in constant misery.

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

Overall, though, I really enjoyed Crash Course in Romance despite its flaws. I loved Chi-yeol’s genuine passion for teaching, Haeng-sun’s warm, caring nature, and the contrast between “traditional” but dysfunctional family units with heavily skewed priorities and a nontraditional, unconditionally supportive family that understands the importance of a healthy school/life balance. And, best of all, that we got to watch that family’s sincerity and kindness slowly rub off on almost everyone around them.

Because, as Sun-jae said, we can’t choose the family — or the system — we’re born into. But we can learn to do better than those who went before us. And while sometimes that can mean inspiring others to change, like Hae-yi with Haeng-ja, other times it means breaking free and doing what’s best for ourselves while knowing the other person is unlikely to ever truly change, like Su-ah with her mom. But if no one’s brave enough to risk a scandal by defying oppressive social norms at a smaller level, then larger systemic changes may never happen, either.

Crash Course in Romance: Episodes 15-16

 
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And you had to pick that first picture 🙈 it reminded me of the Michelin tires logo!!

Ep 16 reminded of the good times. We could have gotten here without the serial killer.
A lot of people just turned a new leaf like original mom, lawyer mom, Su-a mysteriously. Are we to assume she got treatment?
I didn’t see any change in the mothers. They continue to gossip and spread rumors.

Anyway. Will remember the greatness this show was until Ep 12!

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“ it reminded me of the Michelin tires logo!!”. Thank you. I was wondering what it reminded me of

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The white coat and the blue coat before it (the engagement coat) made me think of quilts. I guess they ran out of 1980s sweaters 😆

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When I saw that bizarre blue garment in the engagement scene, I immediately thought of all of you dear wardrobe critics. 😂

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I feel like the Michelin coat and the purple coat were the wardrobe assistant’s middle finger to us wardrobe critics 😂

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Her tiny hands sticking out of the fat sleeves reminds me of a baby in a padded outfit holding out its arms to be picked up.

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Man this drama. Such mixed feelings. I have SO much love for all the main characters, but I can’t help but feel like there was such sloppy writing to resolve issues.

Consort Ji was a mass murderer? Ah, he commits suicide (!?!?!?!?) and leaves behind absolutely no trauma and faces no consequence.

The last minute estranged mom return? She just chooses to leave again and no longer has any impact on the plot after causing so many tears.

But then they show the slow mo of Hae Yi running to Haeng Seon after the CSAT calling her “mom”, and my heart is full. All else is momentarily forgotten as I bask in the true magic of the show, which was this beautiful adopted mother-daughter relationship.

Everything of the high schoolers was awesome, from the slow burn friends to lovers OTP, to the foursome friendship. The handling of the love triangle turned bromance was the best, and I can ship Sua and Geonhu (though i wish Sua’s mom had learned her lesson… but it seems like it’s true that some people never change). Could’ve done without the weak plotpoints listed above, and focused more on the two year time skip (Chi Yeol really making a difference in the classes with his teacher friend, Haeng Seon struggling to study and balance love and her college daughter, and of course our lovely med students. Or if you were going to bring back the bio-mom, do it earlier and actual resolve it… just skip ALL of the murder plot PLEASE). When this drama was a romCom, it was truly magic. I’m happy that this drama did so well ratings wise, I’m so proud of all the beautiful actors, and I’m so glad we got to see Jeon Do Yeon without her bangs (she’s absolutely stunning, guys). These were lovely characters with some stumbles for me, and I’ll bask in the glow of the sweetest family plus their friends, and skip the rest.

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Agreed. A qn. Why did you use the word ‘consort’ re Ji as consort is used to denote concubines. Is there another usage of this word in KDs? I saw this usage before another Beanie and was puzzled so thought to ask you. Tx!

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Earlier in the drama, Dong-hui's coworkers referred to him behind his back, jokingly, as "Royal Consort Ji" because he was always loyally, subserviently trailing behind Chi-yeol, and Chi-yeol is the King of Math Teachers. (I think I remembered that correctly.)

That poor character - he seemed to exist as an equation to be solved and his arc was the most frustrating and least instructive part of this show.

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@Elinor: Thank you. That clearly went over my head.
I agree with you about his tragic and horrifying arc. It was lazy writing which could have been nuanced, compassionate and devoid of the vile serial killer angle. It is such a public disservice to perpetuate the myth that serial killers do commonly exist. In fact, they are extremely uncommon.

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Sometimes I think the writers have difficulty ending a show, hence the, what I consider, messed up plot bits. And what was Ji protecting Chi yeol from? Also, falls off of roof - end, then nothing else save a news story, nothing about how it affected almost EVERYBODY. Ugh. Still loved the characters, though

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So true. It was unbelievable. Even if some time had passed, which they didn’t clearly indicate (in contrast with the clear indication of ‘2 years later’ bit, it still would have been a devastating event and worthy of more time and reflection.

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I too loved this show, but there were definitely some weak plot lines. I don't mind the "Serial killer" angle (although I do agree with someone else who said serial killers are rare), but I can actually see this as a possibility, because of how abused he was from the very beginning by his mother. What I do take umbrage with is how the aftermath of the death is handled. It would have been stronger to show Chi Yeol talking about it in his therapy with this doctor from the beginning of the show. I mean - this is a guy who wasn't afraid to get therapy when he was feeling stressed out, had recurring nightmares of the student who killed herself and wasn't able to eat well. How can the writers make us believe that when his most trusted colleague/friend/confidant turned out to be a serial killer, he wouldn't go back to therapy and have recurring nightmares again? And the writers could have easily shown a few scenes where he might be waking up from a nightmare, but this time Haeng Song is there to comfort him, which shows how different he has become since the beginning of the show.

Another plot line that really bothered me was Hae-yi deciding to go off to Japan. Actually, I first thought - oh, the writers are really being smart - Hae-yi is doing this for show, to scare off her "mother" so she won't be a pest anymore. In fact, that would have been more inline with Hae-yi's character, because she is a smart girl and understands people's true nature more easily than her aunt sometimes. And in this scenario, the writers could have shown how she knew all along that her mother would run away when push comes to shove, and she would have no regret anymore cutting her off completely from her life. That again would have been more believable and realistic than having this mother character show up at the very end and wring sympathy from the audience with a last-minute "sacrifice" for the greater good.

And again - there are characters for whom I think it would have been better to show that they are slowly changing, with the right approach and changing mindset instead of making their transformations so dramatic. Su-a, Sun-jae's mom - they all seem to change so dramatically in just 2 years! You know the saying - you win some, you lose some. The ending would have been stronger if the writers had this approach in mind instead tidily tying up everything in a nice bow.

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I also thought that Hae-yi (as a very smart and emotionally perceptive character) was trying to outmaneuver her mom and scare her off so she will leave. But then her crying in her room seemed more like she was just trying to be responsible for this terrible bio mom and sacrifice herself for her mom.

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When I saw the scene in the preview, I thought it was a sure red-herring, that it was actually because Hae-yi felt bad that she was hurting her "mom" even temporarily in her scheme to get the mother out of the picture. But again - if the mother had simply disappeared without a letter, I think the audience would have bought that more easily than feeling like they are being manipulated to like a character who just showed up at the very end with no good explanation for her absence from Hae-yi's life all these years.

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And it's too hard to believe that the sister would change. She abandoned her daughter, caused her mom to run out in the street and die, left her sister to sacrifice her Olympic career to raise her daughter and take care of the brother. And then came back, without any shame, to get money.

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You read my mind exactly! Was jolted out of the drama by these exact two things: Donghee's death seeming to be forgotten within minutes and Haeyi actually wanting to be a sacrificial lamb. Donghee's death - and the fact that he committed suicide when his sister's suicide had shaken Chiyeol so badly - had to have a bigger impact on Chiyeol. No way he'd simply have shrugged that off! Plus what about the Pride office? Donghee had a key role there for years but not a single colleague seemed to register he had gone??? And Haeyi was simply far too intelligent to sacrifice herself like that. We ended up with a whole story arc that was pointless as history repeated itself (her mother walked away again) and no-one changed because of it.

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agreed on DH. CY was so affected by suhyun's death that he still seeing psychiatrist for years and that even makes him suffers from ED but DH's death, someone who has been working closely with him for years, someone who he might considers as family before didn't affect him that much? he spent every waking hours with him before knowing HS ffs. everyone just move on with their life as if he was just some stranger they sometimes saw on the train and not someone who they worked together for years. That is such a lazy writing and tbh, what happened in the final week actually reduced my love for this drama.

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A few things I liked about the finale.

The first will be Chi-yeol and Teacher Jeon's friendship. It is sad that this two individuals grew apart thanks to the education system. But I was glad to see them heal from their hurt and be good friends again, even exchanging ideas and talking about their challenges. I'm happy for them both and their back to fledging friendship, and I'm happy that Chi-yeol has a safe space in Jung-ryeol.

Did we really have to have the mom around? And why is Seo-jin's husband suddenly showing up after everything wrecked up and down? I wished he was back sooner cause he was really sweet and supportive. The healthy air meal they shared as a family...all is forgiven. Even though it was just one scene and we didn't see the journey, I believe they have done the work to get to where they were today. Seo-jin is proud of her son, and she let him know that she no longer sees him as a disappointment but as a child she will become very proud of, a child she'll no longer hide but will flaunt for all and sundry to see.

One more thought? Do the kids really have to suddenly be mature about everything as if they are the only ones battling life? Why did Sun-jae have to drop out of school? Why did Hae-e have to talk about relocating to Japan? It's the adults that messed up so why are they shouldering the responsibility for them. And even if they wanted it, does it have to be that grave? The best Sun-jae could have done was take the last position in the class for that term. That's is a better consequence for his action, but him dropping out...that's similar to cutting off the head to cure an headache.

You are kids, you are young. Let your parents take responsibility for their actions and even yours as well. When the time comes, you can do those things for yourself but until then, please stay in line. Your parents did not ask you to take responsibility for them.

Chi-yeol and Haeng-seon's kiss in public flushed me with first hand embarrassment. I'm supposed to blush but I'm was more of embarrassed and it felt cheesy and good at the same time. Please, do not do that next time.

At the end of it all, everything fell right into place. I ended up liking Hae-e's mom, Seo-jin got her family back, Seo-jin went on a trip with Hui-jae (this one had me feeling all sorts of dopamine mixed with gathered tears), Su-a summarized notes for Hae-e to catch up with class, Geon-hu sleeping in the academy class( that's some consistency for me🤣), Su-a got her mental health back and could now compete in a healthy fashion, Hae-e picks Sun-jae (my legs were in the air in jubilation). Everything is right and it doesn't feel like they were tying up loose ends.

And that's one good-looking pregnancy sported by Yeong-ju.

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They killed Dong Hui off early. I felt a profound sense of sadness at his death. I could only see that bespectacled boy and couldn’t help thinking, every adult in his life failed him.
Not much interest in the story after that, but I was happy to see Sun-Jae and Hae-Yi get together. The sudden pairing of Geon-Hu and Su-Ah was odd. He got over Hae-Yi pretty quickly. LOL.
I hated that aside from Su-Hee, the moms got off lightly for their toxic behavior.
Also, aside from a couple of lectures about it, there wasn’t a lot about the toxicity of the uber competitive educational system, which, I thought was what the drama was about. Oh well. Choose wisely next time you commit to a drama, sister!

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Oh and I loved the happy ending for Hui-Jae

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Thanks for the weecap @mistyisles. I dipped out at episode 2 and followed through the weecaps and came back in to watch episode 16 which was the right ending for the romance drama I had hoped this was going to be. I am glad the noble idiocy was headed off at the pass so Haeyi could shine academically and get the career she deserves and avoid the nightmare in laws she would have had if they didn't sort themselves out.

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I liked the final episode. The fact that none of the class left until they heard if Haeng son passed her certification shows how far Chi yeol has come in those 2 years. He telling them and them applauding was so darn cute.

And it was nice to see the teenagers, be teenagers in college.

Now my disappointment. We were denied a arc where Hyo won should have been the number 2. She would have still done her job and still told CY about himself. Those two scenes we saw of them together should have been throughout the series.

If we were going to have that type of mystery, it should not have been that close to home because now it makes no sense, no matter how they try to justify that Chi yeol was being manipulated by Dong hee.

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The best thing about these finale episodes were all the jokes and laughs sprinkled throughout. I loved how Geon-Hu teased Sun-Jae after the failed confession. And the nod, wink, wink about Jae-Woo's "vitality" that he didn't quite pick up on. And many more good times.

There's a lot I could say about this drama, but I'm just going to pretend the murder subplot didn't exist and move on. I do feel like the proposal was rushed; we never got to see these two real get to enjoy being together. The first time they started hanging out after they were "offical" was overshadowed by fighting and controversy. I think the proposal could've come after the time skip. The characters in the last four episodes had some jarring personality changes, but at least everything worked out in the end. Sometimes you want a nice, neat bow at the end, and that's exactly what we got out of this rom-com.

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Jeon doyeon and jung kyungho carried for me. The moment the drama wasn't directly about them and they were not on screen together, it lost its spark. All the comments about the couple's age gap, how she looked too old or whatever are nonsense to me bcs these two had an amazing chemistry since the first scene together.

I was so into this drama until ep 12 and I could barely bother watching the finale as soon as it was out. It really went downhill for me. The last episodes were a class of what not to do when pacing your story. I never liked the murder teacher assistant plot, but we went through it all, waiting for anyone to finally link the clues and then it just ended LOL I was on board with haeyi's mom coming back and it was a plotline that could have been introduced earlier to bring more discussions, but it was terribly done with a caricature of a character that was really out of tune with the rest of the writing in my opinion. I know this drama has been a type of old school romcom, but some of the latter stories looked like satire of the genre with how stereotypical they were and haeyi's mom whole thing was an example. Same with everyone getting a romance. Geonhu and sua? Really?? If the writers wanted this boy to end up with a possible loveline, my girl danji was right there. Its a shame that once again we got a "main lead's best friend" type of character that is sidelined even by the barely there annoying teen antagonist.

Another annoying thing: This drama did a lot of stuff off screen and with voiceovers. Moments that should have been scenes, played out by the actors. We waited haeyi`s mom to return and we never got a fully confrontation for example. Haeyi's answer to sungjae's confession was done off screen. why?!

The drama could have talked more about the problems with korean education system throughout the run. All the small talks CCY had with his new assistant and teacher friend could have happened before, with more impact into our teen characters' school life. The teacher's issue with how to manage a class with so many different levels could have been a thing earlier and not just a name-dropping talk in the last episode, for example. In the end, the message this drama gave me was that the ends justify the process somehow. The drama is still centering someone's whole life into getting into college or not. With the career you will have. Sungjae's mom changed but she almost went to jail and lost her sons to get to that point.

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I have always liked geonhu more bcs I thought sungjae was boring, but then haeyi is also a bit boring so they make sense together LMAO I still thought the drama was going to end with all of them just friends. never felt that haeyi liked him romantically at all. wish their relationship was a platonic one since the start, not every friendship turns into romance but then this wouldnt be a standard romcom

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Yeah, Sung Jae lost his charm as soon as he started ghosting Hae-E after the exam chaos. They should have remained friends.

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I'm open to someone correcting me, of course, but I dont remember a single scene where haeyi looked at least a little bit shaken by anything sungjae said or done to show that she might had room to see him in a different light than best friend. and when the exam fiasco thing happened and SJ was sure it was bcs of his mom, I thought the drama had draw the line and they would just be friends. as if he lost the timing to confess and life just moved on.

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I don't agree. He was the only one she reached. They supported each other. They shared a lot of things : their interest for school, bad mother, secret in their family, etc. Hae-Yi always helped Geon-Hu but she didn't talk about herself to him.

Geon-Hu and Sung-Jae were both great in their own way.

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yes, they were obviously best friends. none of this meant that she liked him romantically to me. that's what I meant.

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She didn't show any romantic interest for anyone. She was too focused on her studies. But she clearly liked him and it wasn't awkward she accepted his feelings.

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I can appreciate the drama wanting to have a big group of side character and stories to tell, but then writers should be skilled enough to keep up with these storylines. I feel like the drama introduced a lot of topics to discuss but then forgot them. and then a time jump suddenly fixed everything. sua's mental health, for example. even CCY traumatic experience of losing another person close to him, no matter how insane consort ji was. we got one scene of him "being troubled" and thats it. not a single visit to this therapist???

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I noticed this too! I get that he's in a healthier place now, but that doesn't mean he should just drop his therapist - she was an early highlight for me! Justice for the therapist!

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at least one conversation after he went through the trauma of consort ji jumping in front of him. but no..... our female lead told him he should only blame himself for today, eat some food and he's ok lol

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While its true I remain a little disappointed in the last 6 episodes or so, I'd still say this is a cut above the average for the way it integrated its critique of the pressures put on high achieving students with a pleasant romance. But speaking of that, I was unclear what the message of Haeng-sun delaying marriage to Chi-yeol until she passed the exam was supposed to convey, besides a light-hearted parallel to the high stakes testing being endured by the younger generation. Does it continue the critique of academic culture? Or does instead approve of the testing model, saying Korea should apply to every aspect of life, including romance? Among the other alternative narrative paths I would have preferred, I would have liked the show to end with Haeng-sun continuing to fail the test, to see how it would have answered that question.

The test barrier to marriage raises an interesting policy possibility: I could see an argument for an intensive hours long test about every aspect of your future spouse before being allowed to marry--including a questions on all details of her/his past history, plus essay questions on philosophic matters like "how would you respond to the trolley dilemma involving rape legislation" or "if you divorce your husband because he had an affair that later he revealed was fake would you consider getting back to together." It might ensure a lot more long lasting marriages! On the other hand, it might also contribute to the drastic decline of childbirth in Korea.

But at least then, that would solve the testing pressure on students to get into universities, since the decline in the number of students would eliminate any competition to get into medical or law programs!

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It's a rare kdrama that does not induce some coat envy in this viewer, but episodes 15 and 16 had some of the most unflattering coats I've seen in dramaland.

This is my final review of this drama. Decent start, liked some of the sweaters, they dropped their message in the back half, and the coats were real bad at the end. Fin.

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Having recently finished Goblin during which I had coat envy in literally every scene, this hits home. What a contrast.

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I had coat envy in almost every scene of FL in When the Weather is Fine and some of FL’s and ML’s in RIBB

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That coat in the proposal scene was the worst. I thought our FL was hiding a surprise under it!

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LOL🤣🤣

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The coats. lol.

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Not to mention the sweaters and huge crocheted collars

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Since we're commenting on fashion here, what does everyone think about tucking bulky sweaters into high-waisted pants? I can't get used to this trend (and it's also uncomfortable), but I guess I'm just frumpy and unfashionable.

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I never stopped noticing (and hating) that. I'm seeing lots of really ugly womens' clothes in kdramas right now; I guess current trends and my tastes don't overlap much.

You're not frumpy and unfashionable, they are.

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I think it’s true about the ugly clothes, I keep seeing banner ads from Saks Fifth Ave with several sweaters that look just like what she wore in CCIR. Which, in turn, look like half my sweaters from the 80s. SMH, everything that goes around comes around! (apparently she’s been shopping at a high end US dept store, and here I thought all along it was Goodwill).

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I totally dislike it! Prior to this trend, I've tucked a shrunken tunic sweater into the waist of a skirt and it was still uncomfortable. Can't imagine trying to squeeze more fabric when there is a crotch involved.

I feel like it only works for super-skinny people. I'm thin, but not actress/celebrity/instagram-model thin.

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I used to do it back in the 80s when I was really thin and could wear anything. Would I do it now? Nope!

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Urgh, hate those!!

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I think they're cute with cropped sweaters, which Haeng-seon and Young-su often wore.

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😂 Absolutely true that.
Now, a lot’s being said about our FL’s clothes, and it’s all true unfortunately, but let’s not forget the garderobe of the ML. To be honest, I wouldn’t want to be seen dead in some of the fugly clothes (although probably hyper expensive) they made him wear.

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I hated his jeans when he was teaching after the two year timeskip! Why would you do that to a man with his figure?

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Sime of his suits were Wrong as well 🥶

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Ugh I noticed those oversized jeans too! Were they trying to make him look less skinny?

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That was my thought.

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Yeong-ju had a pretty coat, I remember. My husband and I kept joking about the ubiquity of the toggle coat in the last few eps.

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Hum... I was sure we will get a happy ending. But honestly, it felt rushed after the angst we had to suffer during so long...

Dong-Hee's case was a disaster since the beginning to the end. The poor boy saw his sister's suicide, he was abused by his mother, nobody helped him after the trial, like the importance was not about if he killed or not but why... and then he killed people and it ended with his own suicide... What's the point of this story?

Sung-Jae's mother was like Dong-Hee's mother. She never apologized to ruin her son's life and started to ruin the younger one, get treated for alcoholism. No she just left on vacation with her son like nothing.

Sua's mother is just pushing her own craziness on other mothers and she's paid for that.

Haeng-sun should have not accepted her sister comeback. It made Hae-Yi suffering for mothing. She had enough arguments to tell her to leave and just let her contact infos if Hae-Yi wanted to get them.

How Hae-Yi could let the poor Sung-Jae waiting for so long and just give him a peck? When writers will stop to make highschooler/college students acting like kids? At least, they were cute.

Geon-hu was a fresh air breath in this story. He was funny and gave so much positivity. He was a good friend.

I loved our main couple but I really missed the humor from the beginning. In all this angst, I liked how they communicated and support each other.

The casting was really good!

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That pissed me off the most among several things that were annoying in the drama 😠 So out of character for them to roll over for the sister.

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That almost ruined the ending for me. I had been waiting 16 episodes for Haeng-sun to read her sister the riot-act. And she still doesn't even when her sister was being extremely inconsiderate. Hae-yi had a miserable look on her face and all the adults suddenly became afflicted with face-blindness.

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And Haeng Sun even lectures her sister about how Hae Yi won't ask for what she needs, so remember to pay attention and insist on things. I was waiting for FL to have an aha moment after that little speech, but alas, no.

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Geon-hu was one of the best characters in CCIR. Well done Lee Min-jae.
I really think Geon-hu and Dan-ji were the best matchup and it is a shame we didn’t get to meet Geon-hu’s mom. She probably would’ve been the sanest one of the lot.

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a whole spinf off with his story, his sport struggles and then going back to regular school life, while keeping his bright and charming personality despite puberty is living rent free in my mind thanks to lee minjae charismatic persona. someone should write this fic LOL

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You know what I would really like to see? The Geon-hu/Sun-jae karaoke scene that was filmed and is on the cutting room floor. Those two should make a spoof karaoke video anyway.

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If there's any justice in this world, Lee Min-jae will keep getting bigger roles. He really stood out, especially next to the bland actor who played Sun-jae.

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YES, PLEASE!
lee minjae outshined him big time

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I feel like they both fit their characters.
Lee Min-jae may not have worked as well playing the Sun-jae character.

Geon-hu and Sun-jae gave me Crown Prince/Shin Seung-ho and Wook/Lee Jae Wook (from Alchemy of Souls) feels.

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He is scheduled to return in Oh! Youngsimi, airing on ENA in the Mon-Tue slot, tentatively in May. But as a 2nd lead again and the 1st male lead is an idol who hasn't acted in the past 6 years, lol. But I guess at least it'll be his first 'main' role?

Looking at his resume on MDL, he's been working hard for so long in so many small roles and he's now finally getting some recognition. I'm always a sucker for these kind of Kim-Hye-Yoon-career archetypes so I'll be rooting hard for him to continue making splashes in dramaland.

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This drama looks like a future mess. I don't trust Song Ha Yoon for dramas. Lee Dong Hae is far from the best idol actor.

Fortunately, Lee Min-Jae is still young. He has the time to find a good drama as main role!

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I feel like this drama will be a mess too but every project is still a good opportunity to show his talents as an actor starting his career. I absolutely loved him as the lead's young brother in cheer up but I had no idea he would play a character for crash course and was pleasantly surprised when he showed up.

it was also a funny bit that in cheer up his character`s sister name was haeyi and their mom was played by jang youngnam, who did sunjae's mom here lol

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But at the same time she had no trouble yelling at and hitting her brother. Yuck.

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Why did the mothers get happy endings? They were horrible people. At least there’s some indication of regret in Sunjae and Heejae’s mother, and her whole life changed. But Sooah’s mother now gets Paid to do what she has always done?

Jaewoo and Youngjoo: just eww.

I resented being manipulated by the writers into thinking Haengsun went for a makeover when she disappeared after seeing the photos of the pianist girl. Instead, she comes back wearing an Absolute Abomination of a coat.

For a brief moment I thought maybe she’s hiding a pretty outfit under all that puff, until I saw whatever scarf or shirt was peaking out in the neck area. And holy spy balloon, did they have to show it to us in that profile shot? I don’t understand how such a piece of clothing even exists in this world. It’s too big for a maternity coat. And I can’t imagine a hanbok coat using such a pattern that would detract from any hanbok that it covers.

I’ve been Hate-Watching since ep14 and the only part that gave me joy is Sunjae and Haeyi becoming a couple. And like @jerrykuvira mentioned, Chiyeol's rekindled friendship with Teacher Jeon. Everything else was meh or annoying or enraging.

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Why should she get a makeover? Why is that relevant or significant? Her wonderful character comprised of competence, loyalty, kindness and loving nature surely are enough.

I appreciate that might be your preference but it was not a necessity.

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Yeah no, it wasn’t that I wanted a makeover to happen. (Although toning down the aggressively bad sweaters would have been welcomed.) But the setup, Haengsun walking out of the shop with a determined look right after seeing photos and comments and disappearing with no one knowing where she went, made it seem like that’s where it was heading.

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I am sorry if my tone sounded aggressive. I didn’t intend that.

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I assumed she was off to tackle him and get an explanation, not caring what she looked like - which is how she has been the whole way through.

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I took it to mean the coat was meant to conceal the ring box she bought😅. But for the first time, I get to condemn CCIR's wardrobe choice. That coat had her looking like a playground cartoon muse when she first walked in - an absolute abomination I must reaffirm.

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Unless she was buying rings for the entire community, that coat wasn't needed.. that coat can conceal a dead body..
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Ikr 🤣🤣

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omfg i completely agree :')))) i got so bored after ep11 i just stuck around for the resolve which sadly was so bad

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Oh, interesting. It didn’t occur to me that she’d go for a makeover, I thought she was going to find him and get it all out on the table.

I’m starting to think that the two coats at the end are there to tell all of us who crabbed about the sweaters, myself included, to piss off 🤔🤣

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I really don't see why this character would want a makeover, the thought also never occurred to me. Why would seeing that photo suddenly make her realise she had to conform to externally-imposed concepts of femininity to be loved? Are we saying a woman who doesn't care about fashion or style is unlovable?
Her insecurities were around education and career, not about appearance.

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This. Thank you.

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She should have had a makeover weeks ago, as soon as there was a hint of romance. Everything she wore was awful, her hair was awful and absolutely no-one around her seemed to notice or care. I wanted to frogmarch her to the hairdresser and then the mall. Even her brother was better dressed than her. I have no idea what attracted Chi-yeol to her unless he was turned on by the possibility of being manhandled by a national athlete with a strong soup-stirring arm.

She showed zero interest in him as a man, behaving more like they were friends, and for some reason it didn't seem to bother him as much as it did me. This is not how people in a new romantic relationship behave. Then she delays their marriage like it isn't important, as though there is no danger from random pianists, obsessive hormonal teenagers or maybe another member of his staff going overboard for him. I felt she was keeping him at arm's length the entire way through, so they struck me as an extremely unlikely pair. It's probably sacrilege to say so, but he got more attention from Mr. Ji (who at least looked nice in his all black get-up when he went off the roof).

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:) :) :) Totally agree with you about Mr Ji looking fetching as he launches himself off the roof. I was totally distracted by, "That hoodie looks good on him..."

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"Why did the mothers get happy endings?" I have the same question. I think it will hunt me forever.

I thought she was going to his office to act all lovey-dovey so people would post about them. LOL

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*Ahem*
Clears throat. Flexes fingers.
There's a RANT incoming.

Or maybe not. Maybe I'm just tired of how shitty this whole thing was in the end that I'm over it.

Boy that education system is terrible, whatcha gonna do about it really? Let's all focus on my lovelife instead. It's a nice distraction. After all, everyone we care about got through it. Only a few people died. Here's a diamond ring.

If I do end up with the detailed and longwinded discussion of why everything was awful then watch this space. Otherwise, let's go find something else shiny.

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You know if I have to pick on one thing, which is hard because there are so so many things, it's this. The writer had everything set in place to set up a parallel between the events of the past and now (the mother cheating without the child's knowledge, Chi-yeol's student confiding in him, the fallout potentially harming the student more than the parent because they're more vulnerable). Which would pave the way for Chi-yeol doing something about it this time, to protect this student like he failed to protect others. And seeing that would have helped Dong-hui as well, leading to him finally confessing all the terrible things he's done in the name of his sister that he now realises were wrong. None of this stupid jealous ex nonsense they gave him, no attempts to hurt Haeng-seon or murder her for head-scratching "Oh I'm just crazy" reasons.

We find out he never killed his mother but all the violence around him, the pressure and expectation, mistreatment by the police and his tour in the same crappy "investigation" that
Lee Hee-jae went through, all of that led him to believe the only person he could trust was Chi-yeol and he had to protect him at all costs. He'll be happy that Chi-yeol is happy, glad he has somebody else to take care of him and seeing him fight for Hae-yi and Seon-jae will lead to him confessing finally.

No stupid kidnapping, coma, trucks of doom, long-lost mothers, no second child abandonment.

Oh if you did have to do the mother plotline, then at least do it properly! She had a choice between raising Hae-yi and a career opportunity and she decided to take the career. She's come back because she's realised she made a mistake throwing away her relationship with her daughter and wants to reconnect. She has money and success but she has regrets, she gave up too much. She now wonders if she could have had both. No whining, no money-grubbing, no stupid Japan.

Chi-yeol realises that the system is a problem but that he is perpetuation it by staying in his star teacher role. He asks himself if there's a better way for him to help teach kids but without the corruption of the academy he's in. He starts his own academy, vowing to help kids with potential but less money and wanting to encourage a more balanced lifestyle.

Or... seething else. I don't know. Anything other than shrugging off his assistant killing himself right in front of him and then going back to business as usual as though nothing happened.

So many character in this finale apparently shrugged off their deep-seated problems and inadequacies in Offscreenville and then turned into functional human beings between Act 2 and Act 3. Let's just say - Offscreenville got a lot of baggage in a very short period of time. Offscreenville has been BUSY.

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But Chi Yeol always goes back to business after someone dies. Don't you knkw that there's nothing more important than those exams?
Because yeah, those kids where he whole show in exams and that's why every single decision CY took was thought so it wouldn't hurt their studies.
Because what's more important than that, huh? People's life and health definitely not.

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His assistant and closest thing to best friend was revealed to be a murderer and then killed himself in front of him. He was sad for like a day and then just went back to business. He was more upset about people thinking he was cheating on his girlfriend.

Considering how much time the show spent on how his insomnia and eating disorder were a product of his need for justice and his feelings of impotence, it then suddenly went, "meh whatever he has a girlfriend who cooks now" as though that's any kind of resolution. It changed nothing about his root issue.

But, yeah, that's how it is overall. Dead people are roadblocks on his path back to the status quo. I hate it.

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Yep. Haeng Seon's food helped him digest the injustice and guilt, so now he has the strength to help perpetuate this crappy system and make millions...
I hate it too.

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This is the storyline I was looking for, instead , the writers chose to ignore everything they set up in the beginning, in exchange for trope after trope.

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Until Ep 12 I really thought they would tie the past and present. And even thought he will return to public school and help kids - both smart ones and not so smart ones.
And the students death could have been an accident while DH was intimidating him with metal balls.
Everything felt so pointless.

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I agree with everything you wrote. It is just so odd that the writer set up this parallel and then. . .

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as i finished the last episode, I was embarrassed at myself for truly believing the drama would end with CY opening his own academy, with a more fair recruitment process or something.

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I agree so so much! The only one where I disagree is with the biological mother being career focused. I’m kinda sick of kdramas showing career focused women as devoid of any empathy. The lady left her daughter with her mother, which while a traumatic experience for her child, I can at least try to understand the biological’s mother POV. But then we find out Hae-yi’s grandmother died and the bio mum didn’t return for over a decade.

I’m sorry but there is no excuse for such lack of concern for her loved ones. I’m kinda glad the bio mum is as awful and Hae-yi while maybe feeling responsible, realises her bio mum was never worth it. The arc could’ve been done waaaay better but Hae-yi having closure and realising Haeng-seon was always her real mum was enough for me.

Obviously the bio dad is just as bad if not worse but kdramas always give them a pass and even this drama just glossed over the horrible fathers and their lack of concern too *sigh*

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The longer I think about this show, the madder I get 😡

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I guess I did have a rant in there.
It might be brewing other rants.
It might be a rant farm.

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IKR?
I feel like it would've been better to (re)watch Sky Castle, At 18 and Five Children. That's practically the drama CCIR wanted to be, but couldn't. 😆

Maybe the journey would've been longer but more exciting and less disappointing.

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I dropped the show when it became apparent that Dong Hee would be made to be a murderer. Shin Jae Ha is so good at portraying good people that I desperately didn't want Dong Hee to be anything but that. His friendship with Chi Yeol and sincere care for his well being also does not sit well with Dong Hee killing off teenagers or just the people who are close to CY.

Otherwise, I also hated the show for being simultaneously progressive AND regressive.

+ The FL is a middle aged woman with a kid
- The kid is not biologically hers and in fact she never had a relationship.

+ The character is autistic
- when people in a coffee shop are downright hateful to him, his sister has to give them a sob story and then thank them profoundly for understanding.

Actually, everything about the brother bothered me. Everything from the looks of the actor was similar to the brother from Psycho but It's Okay, but because of the less nuanced writing the character fell flat(?). I just felt he was there for #representation points.

Yeah, and Hee Song reminded me of every candy female lead from the older kdramas.

I am not very good at expressing my thoughts, but I think the reason I write a negative comment on the final episode is because I just really wanted the show to be better. Either way, I am happy for the good ratings - I love Jung Kyung Ho and I hope that this show will encourage showrunners to write more rom coms with middle aged leads.

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i really wanted the show to be better too :')

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One flaw was using Jae-woo for comedic relief without giving him something to work with in the script that showed something that showed growth accountability.

I kind of saw the Yeong-ju x Jae-woo pairing a mile away - in the earlier episodes. But then, they dumped it and remembered to pick it up by ep 11-12 which of course received criticisms from viewers, I included even though I caught the tease in the earlier episodes. I wished they had followed the arc in 13-14 before giving us ep 12's that felt disjointed.

The pancake incident clearly shows that at times, he'll need external intervention to diffuse situations where he is misunderstood. It is a consequence of his neurodivergent nature. Does that make him any less of an independent man? No. And that is where the writing failed. One particular pattern that comes to mind is Haeng-seon cutting Jae-woo off whenever he is making a point. In one of such, all Yeong-ju could do was look on as Haeng-seon shut him down when he was actually making sense(I wished the camera lingered on her face a bit more in that scene).

Jae-woo could have been shown holding a job different from working with Haeng-seon but that'll be stretching the plot and production a bit more to accommodate, but he's an integral part of running the shop. He runs grocery errands, takes orders, handle the cash registry without any hassle and in his own limited way engage in customer interaction - all these little things I believe are done to show that he's a functional part of thier society, and he's doing tasks non-neurodivergent individuals undertake.

Hence when he and Yeong-ju took over running the restaurant, I didn't find it disjointed or it was sudden. I did find it sudden for a split second when Haeng-seon first mentioned it but that was it. While he might not be able to assist with the dish preparations, he'll be able to do a lot with the prepping, display and sales. He will always ( I stand to be corrected) need Yeong-ju to diffuse situations where he is misunderstood from now on and that's it. Beyond this, all his other activities shows his independence and maturity.

And, Yeong-ju isn't Haeng-seon, Yeong-ju gives him more credit than Haeng-seon does, I just wished they didn't show it subtly.

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I'm not sure if you were responding to me or the comments before mine, but I apologize for deleting what I wrote. I didn't think the brother's characterization was handled with as much sensitivity as I would have liked, but I didn't know how to convey that without seeming insensitive myself and I worried I'd inadvertently offend someone.

In general, I struggle with romance when two people seem to have little in common or there is a difference in life experience, maturity (sexual, emotional, intellectual, etc.), or status. In some cases, unequal partnerships are objectionable because they're unethical, but in other cases I just can't pair off two people who don't really seem to get each other. I grew up on Anne of Green Gables, in which Gilbert and Anne were kindred spirits who stood at the top of the class together. I guess Hae-yi and Sun-jae are the Anne and Gilbert of this drama, but I suppose my ideal is problematic, too. In real life, opposites attract and people fall in love with each other for any number of reasons or no reason at all.

So why do we root for certain couples more than others? Why did the Yeong-ju-Jae-woo pairing bother me at all? I think it was a matter of timing and writing, as you observed. I also think they were made into a pair to satisfy the pervasive happiness=married-with-kids equation in drama land. I never had the impression that Jae-woo wanted or needed to be in a relationship the way Yeong-ju did, so I wondered if it made sense for them to become a couple at all. Maybe I just saw them as representations of something rather than fleshed out characters. Anyway, thank you for your thoughtful reflections. You made me think about some of the subtleties I may have missed.

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When you have a neurodiverse character who clearly functions at a different developmental level from those around him who has never expressed any romantic or sexual interest be manipulated into a relationship by an older person he trusts - yeah it's going to feel icky. It's icky.

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Not gonna lie, I throughly enjoyed most of the fluff in episode 16!

The leads were so adorable together, this is what I wanted, to see their relationship without the other silly side plots. Haha Geon-hu is definitely the fairy-godmother of the group, the teens were a treat to watch from beginning to end. I’m also happy with their pairings.

Everything else tho is questionable…but I’m just gonna sit with the good memories this show provided me without dwelling on the nonsense. Also happy the drama ended with high ratings! Jung Kyoung-ho and Jeon Do-yeon definitely deserve the success, both their performances were amazing!

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I haven’t watched ep 16 yet because I was waiting for the weecap to see if it was even worth my time. I will go back and finish it, especially as it seems like most folks agree that ep 16 was a return to form in a lot of ways, but they really did everything they could in ep 15 to make me care about this finale as little as possible. I think it was mainly the biological mother storyline. It felt so tacked on and unnecessary, and in the entire episode we didn't get to see any of the things I was interested in (teens being a notable exception that proves the rule) and had to deal with a whole bunch of extras that I wasn't. If there had been any more episodes, I think I would have just dropped it completely. Now that I've calmed down though, and read this summary, I think I'm ready to dip back in.

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Ok, ep 16 was better than it had any right to be. Despite it taking 40 minutes to get rid of the mom. I don't mind that she was there necessarily, but they didn't introduce her with enough time to spare for her visit to be meaningful or fleshed out. I guess we know that she and Hae-i have a better relationship now, whereas before it was completely nonexistent, but other than that it doesn't seem like her appearance did much of anything.

WAY more interesting was Seon-jae's mom's transition, and I wish we got to see more of that. I really like what they did with her character, so I wish we got to see more of her transition away from horribleness and into happiness. Would have been nice to see her hand out some apologies too. And speaking of moms, what on earth are they trying to say with Su-a's mom? There are no repercussions at all? Or are we supposed to believe her divorce was the consequence of her behavior and now she's good to go? I'm supportive of her doing something besides gossiping all day, but please keep that woman away from education of any kind.

I feel like I finally got to see the relationship between Haeng-seon and Chi-yeol that I'd been waiting to see this whole time. Their conversation in the car was sweet and fun and just a bit sexy, and their dynamic felt like a couple, instead of a mom and her son (which is the vibe I've been trying to see past). As much as I enjoyed it, it was hard not to wish we'd gotten to see her on that journey of learning how to be cared for, learning how to interact with someone you love in a way that is different from the other members of your family.

I love Hae-i and Seon-jae together, and I have from the start, but why did this girl wait 2 more years to start dating him? It always weirds me out when they do this with time jumps (Our Beloved Summer did it too, and it was a tiny shadow on what was otherwise such a fantastic ending) - just pretend that the secondary couple has done nothing at all to progress their relationship in the interim. I don't mind the implied Su-a/Geon-hu match up either. I think they are an interesting pairing, especially since Su-a is in a way better place now. I do wish we'd gotten to see more of her transition too. It sort of felt like she went from losing her vision/mind to hearing her parents fight to being better. I get that some of her awakening was Hae-i getting hurt, and some was seeing her parents like that, and hopefully some was going to that therapist her mom called, but we didn't really get to see much of her path.

Oh well. Overall, ep 16 was as good as I could have hoped for, and left a better taste in my mouth than I was expecting. I'm off to make some braised tofu.

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I enjoyed this show and would have liked it more if it hadn't been billed as a romcom. To me it works best as a critique of the Korean education system and the extreme pressure parents put on their kids to succeed. I live in U.S. suburb where a lot of parents and teens are very invested in elite college admissions, so that storyline really resonated for me. (Thank goodness there is no serial killer here, but sadly we do have many kids with severe mental health problems.)

The romance was cute and refreshing. It's nice to see a romance between adults.

This writer and director shine at creating complex characters (even the minor characters have some depth!) and showing warm and funny moments between them. That's what made this drama compelling to me.

The only thing that bothered me is that I don't think it went far enough in exploring/ critiquing the system itself. Chi-yeol is profiting off the kids' (and parents') stress and anxiety. At the end, both Su-Ah and her mom are rewarded for her mom's terrible parenting. I'm not sure what to make of that. I'm not sure what the solution is, though. Our American system may even be worse in some ways.

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You bring up a great point regarding critique of educational systems. I don't have to worry about this as a parent since I'm not one, but as a student having gone through not great ones in grade school and minimally okay ones in college and now graduate school as an older student, I think extreme pressure is the norm, and not just by parents in Korea. I'm in the US too, and while the empathy for that stress may be a bit greater in the US educational system, stressful conditions to achieve excellence due to competitive employment standards, i.e. the whole reason for pursuing that education, is a culprit that really needs to change drastically.

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I had a smile on my face for most of the last episode. I loved our non-traditional family and our gang of teenagers. I think it could have been really brilliant if they had followed @mistyisles suggestion of keeping Dong-hee controlling but no murder subplot. And if they'd done a more substantive look at our families. I couldn't believe that the trauma of having a murderer running around killing people connected to CHY in this Pride school was so quickly dismissed (not that I wanted more of it). I wanted some scene of explanation between Hae-yi and Haeng-sun discussing why she'd said she'd go with her bio mom (was it noble idiocy or an attempt to outmaneuver that she was starting to worry would fail?) and some happy reunion scene there. Although I did love the school pick up parallel with the beginning. I did not like Geon-hu getting romantically involved with Sua-a. She did not appeal to me at all (and imagine her mother as your mother-in-law - yikes) and Geon-hu was so great. And I didn't find believable that Hae-yi waited 2 years to say yes to Sun-jae. As soon as they talked at her hospital bed, the chemistry was still there. I was glad Sun-jae and his family seemed to be reuniting. But at least it was a huge happy ending with a glowing Haeng-sun :)

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I agree with everything you said, especially regarding Hae-yi's decision to go to Japan. What was she thinking? We see Hae-yi jump up in surprise when she sees the farewell text from her mom, but that's the end of it. It's weird. Is Hae-yi upset, relieved, or a little of both? Who knows? That whole subplot was handled poorly. Parts of the final note were touching, but the sister was an undeveloped character.

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One of the main motivations for Hae-yi to succeed was to get ‘revenge’. To prove to her biological bother she was worthy. Hae-yi was abandoned when was around six or seven, so she not only remembered her biological mum but always felt she owed her aunt/mum for taking care of her. This is why she never asked for anything, she knew the sacrifice Haeng-seon made for her. While I agree this storyline wasn’t develop enough, I can understand Hae-yi feeling like she and her biological mother were a burden. I think she felt responsible for her bio mum too.

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Definitely! It's sort of a theme in this drama that Hae-yi doesn't ask Haeng-seon for things, like how a child would usually ask their mother. The only thing she asked for was to call Haeng-seon "mom" so that she could be like the other kids somewhat. She's acutely aware of how much Haeng-seon has sacrificed and had put on hold.

Her biological mom being so crass and terrible and ungrateful was the straw the broke Hae-yi's back.

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"I had a smile on my face for most of the last episode."

Yes, that pretty much sums things up for me. I am such a sucker for happy and cheesy moments.

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go girl give us nothing! ✨

i could list the 101 problems i had with this show but I've decided to hold my tongue and let my anger dissipate.
really disappointed with this, there was so much potential :')

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So much potential. All squandered.

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The highlight for me this week was Gun-hoo giving Seon-jae his space to confess and then teasing him about getting turned down/put on hold. This is one of the best love triangles portrayed and it was bromance more than anything else.

The parallel between Haeng-soon waiting for Hae-yi after SAT vs the scene from childhood was heart melting. Haeng-soon is the only one deserving to be Hae-yi's mother and no one can deny this.

I loved the finale. It returned to the drama we signed up for but I would have loved it if they gave Young-joo and Jae-woo more screen time and a more convincing set up. Getting together because because a don't go to the blind date trope is boring and typical.

I didn't like Hae-yi's birth mother. So typical and shameless and prefictable. If they wanted to show Hae-yi's dilemma, they should have given that arc more time but still I don't think I wanted the birth mother to return. If you abandoned your daughter for over a decade, you have no right to be called a mother.

Don't get me started on how they handled Dong-hee's arc out especially the suicide act that felt as forced as the whole mystery arc. I am okay with him being the younger brother but not a manipulative person. Why not make him into an example of someone who managed to live a good life and now tried to help others not to repeat the tragedy?

Su-ah and Gun-hoo were a shocking pairing but I will just getting behind that pretending that I am fully convinced Su-ah is now a better person. We saw snippets of the toll stress took on her but I would have loved to see her get therapy. Perhaps her redemption arc will be more convincing.

I loved that Su-ah's mother didn't make a 180. Some things don't change. As for Sepn-jae's mother giving Hee-jae food and going on a trip aren't enough to make up for what she did. Also her redemption arc was left behind the scenes. I wanted a sincere apology and the boys speaking out.

Last but not least, it was really a crash course perhaps not purely on romance no thanks to the tiger mothers and the mystery arc but we had a lot of interesting topics like family and friendship. I feel sad for the drama that could have been but I will try to enjoy the sweetness and forget about the bitterness.

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The highlight for me this week was Gun-hoo giving Seon-jae his space to confess and then teasing him about getting turned down/put on hold. This is one of the best love triangles portrayed and it was bromance more than anything else.

Gosh, yes! Life would be so different for so many of the characters if Geon-hu hadn't stopped Sun-jae that one time he was so upset. And let's not forget that we first met Geon-hu when he saved Hae-i from what would have been a terrifying tumble down the stairs. His character is a somewhat unsung hero in all this, and I'm glad the teens continued to be friends when circumstances would have made it so easy and natural for them to part ways. If only we had more characters who are that rare blend of being both self-assured and self-aware.

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Thanks for the recap!!

They could have cut out the serial killer subplot and still have had 16 episodes since the endings for the other characters were really rushed. Also the final episodes felt like the conclusions to two different dramas. It's as if Dong-hee never existed in their world by episode 16.

I was disappointed to see Haeng-seon being such a doormat in front of her terrible sister and seeing how drama was really about how a bunch of high school kids deciding to be the real adults. Still, the finale did have a good ending for mostly everyone, deserved or not. I smiled a lot through episode 16. Lots of feel-good moments.

Despite my frustrations with the serial killer plot and with the mom-drama, this drama has a lot of warm and charm. There is more good than bad, and I can see why it got huge ratings. There is a good mix of old-school and modern. Sometimes those warm moments hit me in the gut and makes me smile and even cry. Haeng-seon waiting for Hae-yi with the other parents as they collect their kids from CSAT day and Hae-yi going "Mom!" was a great throwback to beginning of the series. TEARS!!!

I enjoyed the ending of Haeng-seon studying and passing the CSAT. And Chi-yeol and his class being so invested in her results!

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Honestly, I was pretty disappointed in the ending. There were some good moments, but overall the ending was not good. They tried though, I guess.

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My greatest impression at the end was that this drama tried to do far too much . We had a) a romance between 2 people, b) a ML with trauma from an ex-student's suicide, c) a FL who had to quit a career in national sport to care for a dependent, d) a "daughter" dealing with being abandoned and then having to work through mother re-appearing, e) that mother processing her own decision to leave her daughter and deciding it was a good one, f) an assistant who ended up working with his boss due to a dead sister's final wish to work with him, g) the assistant becoming unhinged if anyone else got too close to his boss which led to murder, h) a bunch of mothers who competed to extreme lengths within the school and tutoring system to ensure their children "succeeded", i) how that competition led to criminal behaviour, abuse etc., j) the effects of such competition on their offspring, k) the challenges of running a business and a family as a single parent, l) the extra challenge of having a neurodivergent family member who needs specific attention and support at times, m) an exploration of how romance might look between two colleagues in the business, n) a high-school love triangle and bromance... (I'm sure I've missed some, but enough!) Waaaaaaay too much bitten off and it's not surprising that the resultant chewing was pretty unsatisfactory at points. If they'd chosen to focus on fewer points of interest, I feel it would have been so much better.

FWIW, I would have focused on educational competition as the key issue. The mothers and their children would have had a large part, and I would have still had the romance between the star teacher and a woman who had proven that success in education is not all there is to life. I would have had the trauma of the initial student's suicide, but then the little-brother-manager being a star and helping his boss through the trauma (in tandem with new girlfriend) to emphasise the point about there being more routes to success and fulfilment than cut-throat education. And definitely some discussion on whether star teaching serves or destroys the education system: that was juicy fruit waiting to be picked and I can't believe they didn't go there.

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I like you're drama way better. I wish I would've watched this one instead of... That.

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c) a FL who had to quit a career in national sport to care for a dependent,

That actually reminded me of Mr. Goo being a national athlete. I remembered about that detail months after finishing My Liberation Notes and thought "what was that even about?". The same thing goes here. Story-wise there was absolutely no need for Hee Seong to be an ex-athlete. I don't even remember if the show ever made the point that she was exceptionally good at it and dropping that career was a sacrifice on her part.

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(Sorry. Reposted one more time. >.<;;;)
Episode 15 was horrible. I hated that the writers wrapped up Dong Hee's story by ending it swiftly with his suicide instead of him getting the proper treatment and punishment for his crimes. I don't like that they included a fancy scene of him floating and the past scene of him and his sister was shown too little and too late.

There were still unsatisfying and disappointing parts, but the finale was overall alright. It had a similar tone to the early, light episodes.

Some parts I like:
- Seo Jin getting support from her husband and their family back together again.
- Seo Jin and Hui Jae healing and growing closer. Hui Jae surprising her in his uniform!!
- Hae Yi running to Haeng Sun after the CSAT. Happy tears. :]
- Su Ah & Geon Hu! Not a ship I was expecting. Glad Su Ah is in a better place.
- Sun Jae's ecstatic reaction after Hae Yi expressed her feelings for him. Really cute.

Some parts I didn't like:
- Haeng Ja's reappearance. Eh... it was so short and sudden. A last minute problem before the end. (Her letter to Haeng Sun was pretty touching though.)

- Hae Yi never talked to Haeng Sun about why she acted out and the real reason she wanted to leave her. She never apologized.

- Young Joo & Jae's Woo WHOLE relationship progression. NO. Hated this side story. I don't even want to talk about it much. The romance was nonexistent. Honestly, this part left a huge stain on this drama.

- Su Ah's surprising kindness was indeed a surprise. A bit sudden? We didn't see her in therapy or see how she changed to her current, happy, healthier state. Or what caused this change? Her parents?

- There was the scene between Chi Yeol and Jong Ryeol where they were criticizing the extreme education system in Korea, but that was it. No real improvement or proposal for change. I'm not sure what else happened with Chi Yeol's career 2 years later. He is still helping private academy students, but was he helping public school students? College students?

This drama started off well - it was fun and funny. It sucks that the writing was so bad by the end. A dang shame. Got to see some nice acting from new-to-me, young actors at least. Hope they get more projects. Especially Lee Min Jae! Main lead role please.

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I dropped the drama after the murder mystery took center stage (episode 12). I was not convinced by Dong-hee's character. His murderous background and motive felt forced and out of place.

Throughout the show, I also wasn't convinced by the adults' romance. I don't see the chemistry between Haeng-son and Chi-yeol. And it's not because Haeng-son looks like a mom or is older. (The Shape of Water had a leading lady who was in her 40s and a fish creature leading man. And there was plenty of chemistry between them.)

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I'm too dumb for this show. I can't understand what the writer tried to do with the story, what was the meaning of it all.

I just... I wanted to see Chi Yeol ask himself what questions he's going to write for the exams. I wanted to see him ask himself what questions he should ask his students to make things better for them. I girl fainted in his class and that was like nothing. When he said "Omo why would she go so far?" I just rolled my eyes.
After all these people died/killed themselves he's shocked because a girl takes pills to concentrate better? Wow. He still doesn't know what's going on, does he?

2. I wanted to see the All Care moms LEARN something. Take a moment to reflect, to really understand what they've done so far to their and other children. I didn't want a lazy and useless time jump where we see the most awful moms out there give advices to other people about how they should raise their children and talk all casual about their education.

3. I wanted to happen was that I wanted Haeng Seon and Hae Yi to have a real omma-tal conversation. If it wasn't for Haeng Seon's unnie, they wouldn't be together now. They solved nothing.

Hae Yi had this idea of being a burden, she acted like she was just visiting, and HS never tried to solve that misunderstanding. HS was the same.
The moment her unnie appeared she started acting like "well, I had fun with my niece, bye".
In my opinion, HS should've told HY that she was her daughter and that it was okay for her to stay if she wanted to. She should've told her that she has two (well, more like one and a half) moms, not one. I didn't like that the one to validate their relationship was HS's unnie.
She goes there to steal money but instead she gives them their permission to be mother and daughter. Aww.

4. Oh, right, Jae Woo and Yeong Joo. Why do I feel like the writer thought they were doing a favor to these two characters...
But from where I'm standing this just looks wrong.

Their kid's is going to ask for "how I met your mother" but their going to get the traumatic season of Friends where Rachel and Joey are a thing.

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I felt the same frustration with HS when haeyi wanted to leave to japan. she knew why HY was doing it, but she never tried to at least talk to her and reassure her that she could stay. haeyi might be mature to deal with her studies and everything, but she was still a teenager acting like a teenager who thinks they know the best solution for anything. I wonder if HS not really saying she was her mom or that she now had two moms is a cultural thing. like she cant really call herself like that because she didnt give birth to haeyi (the birth mom says something like that when she gives them her "permission", saying she did the hard work of giving birth. maybe its just the bloodline obsession speaking)

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I'm also curious about it.
At first I was wondering if it was because they knew they're family (aunt and niece) since the beginning, but they never actually acted like that. They act like mom and daughter.
Even when HY calls HS "aunt" I never took it seriously, it reminds me of when I call my mom "ahjumma". LOL The funniest part is that HS always looked offended when HY did that.

Wait, now that I think about it, maybe you're right and it is a cultural thing. When people found out about HS not being HY's biological mom, everyone acted like she was some kind of saint for raising "someone else's daughter".
They all were like "OMO you're just her aunt, not her mom but you didn't let her leave on the streets or took her to an orphanage. You raised her and you even let people believe she's yours. You're the next Jesus. No one else can do this sacrifice."

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I also wonder how much of it was just the narrative trying their best to make sure everyone knows that Haeng-seon is a perfect selfless saint.

Because that was her only personality trait tbh. Saint who takes care of everyone in her life without complaining.

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To be more precise: "selfless saint with boundaries issues".

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I think all the moments haeyi called her aunt was to draw a line for whatever reason. thats why even HS would make a comment and would notice that something was happened for HY to be doing that.

but there's a lot of filial duty and stuff like that within korean culture and I think haeyi`s whole conflict about leaving so she could stop the "burden" that it was for HS is also filial duty. it was her mom and it was haeyi's duty to deal with her - in this case, making her leave as soon as possible.

to be honest, this cultural aspect is a hard thing for me to understand because of my own cultural and personal background, and it is something that I always have to set my mind when watching family dynamics in korean dramas - especially weekend dramas lol

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I think the same, she tried to draw a line. The problem is that I just couldnt see it.

I feel the same.
This situation in CCIR with the birth mom is something I can´t understand at all, so I also wonder if it is because of the cultural differences.

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The mother thing made no sense. It was just like in "Its okay not to be okay". We could survive without. Bring it was just extra stress and added nothing to the history.

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I disagree that this show had a happy ending. Sure, the ships sailed, yay! But, think about it - nothing has changed. Helicopter parents will still obsess about their child's college admission; Chi-yeol never got out of this vicious environment and still playing a major role in this lopsided system of the have's and the have-nots, he never even bothered to address the obvious lessons learned from the tragedy of Dong hui and sister - I was expecting at least with his money he could have put up a foundation that may serve as a refuge or offer therapies for victims like them. Depressing to think that there could be more Su-a, Hui-jae, Dong-hui, or even that girl who fainted. Hae-yi only got lucky because her aunt is dating a star teacher, but what about the rest of the less - privileged? It is actually a depressing ending.

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I couldn't say it better.
It was a depressing ending.

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I feel this is a weird highlight, but honestly a refreshing part of this drama was COMMUNICATION. E.g., I LOVED that when Chi-yeol found out about Consort Ji, he calls Haeng-sun and tells her about it. With Hae-e and Sun-jae, it was so refreshing to see that she would CALL him to check in on him. IDK. It's probably because I'm one of those people that prefer calls to texts ><

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I don't really have any thoughts that others haven't covered, so I Just want to say that Yeong-ju being pregnant really bothered me. Maybe it's because I'm dealing with infertility, but I'm just so tired of shows and books tacking pregnancies onto everything. Also, I'm still not super comfortable with their relationship, so a reminder that they apparently had sex wasn't... great.

I agree that the show tried to do too much and a lot of things weren't wrapped up well, but in the end I appreciated the happy ending because a lot of Kdrama romances haven't been giving me that lately. Also, I was really happy about Hae-e and Sun-jae, although I wish she hadn't resisted his hand-holding at the end (I get what they were trying to do but it already felt questionable if she was into him).

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Oh, and the Dong-hui storyline (and resolution) was just super depressing.

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Definitely lots of flaws and missed potential with this drama, but I have to say the actors were all amazing. Even as I was questioning the writer's choices and wanting to throw my screen across the room, I kept watching because the actors drew me in and convinced me in each scene. Props to all of them.

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One of the things the writer was consistent throughout was making the women in Haeng-sun's family (Mother, two sisters and grand daughter) headstrong. It would have been nice to see more of Kim Mi-kyung as the matriarch but it did not happen.
I referred to Haeng-sun as a sort of "shoot first, ask questions later" person. How many times did she whip off that apron and run out?
Sister Haeng-ja shows up with elbows out and tries to take over.
Even Hae-yi announces she will move to Japan and will kill herself if mom tries to wheedle money out of Chi-yeol.
At least Chi-yeol goes into his marriage with eyes wide open.

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In ep 16 alone, I just stopped counting. During the Chi-yeol tea chat situation, I was just counting seconds to see when the apron will cameo again, and it did.

The apron should compete at the end of year polls : Most Featured Inanimate Object - Nam Haeng-seon's Apron.

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It should be the winner!

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Final thought before I move on to OASIS.
tvN’s CCIR ran for about 20 hours figuring 16 episodes at about 75 minutes per episode. I think this could have been a great drama if this came in as a 12 episode, 60 minutes per episode romantic drama with the whole murder arc exed out along with a couple of other plot lines.

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TvN does not know editing or they do not even have an editing team because all their shows are more than 1hr +.

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I almost never like the endings of these 16 episode dramas. They lose their dramatic tension as each character must find some sort of resolution. I do want to say, however, that I was encouraged that most of the characters were able to resolve their problems. I did not want to see all the mean moms stay mean and all the screwed up families stay screwed up. This is the ideal behind the story. If you screw up college admissions requirements, you can't go to an elite university. If you get injured, or otherwise have to stop your training, you can't be an elite athlete. But, real people can interrupt their education, resume it, and learn the material, or recover from injuries and regain strength and ability. They can repair their relationships with family members and improve their mental. If foolish and flawed characters don't find happy endings, it's not a comedy. That was the real problem with the villain here.

I am looking forward to Jeon Do-Yeon's next Netflix show in which I think she doesn't have to wear featherbeds or whatever those were supposed to be. (Why would you wear a coat indoors anyway? It's not just "OMG where did they find those coats" but was that even a coat? Bathrobe? Tent? What?)

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was that even a coat? Bathrobe? Tent? What?

It was a cosy. Like a teapot cosy, except for a person.

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Ha ha! That's perfect, it looked like that!

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Omg, featherbeds 🤣🤣🤣

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I was completely shocked at Hae-yi's "noble idiocy". Though I understand the point they were trying to make, I thought it was too out of character for Hae-yi. Thankfully it got quickly resolved but I was annoyed when it happened. It didn't make sense to me the way she willingly hurt her Aunt/Mom. And also what was the point of the Mom?? What did her appearance add to the story? Overall, I enjoyed the beginning and I was satisfied by the end, especially seeing the leads. I just wish we had more time with the leads. I think there was a lot of unnecessary stuff. I am not happy with Su-a's Mom arch. I didn't even see an ounce of regret or anything thay signaled that she understood that she was putting too much pressure on her kid, and was being unnecessarily mean to other kids and moms. I really don't know how I feel about Jae Woo and Young Joo. Bref, I liked seeing both leads on my screen. Those are actors that I like. I just wish we had more time with the leads and the rom-com part.

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I feel Su-ah's mom should've gotten some sort of "reckoning" . Maybe her marriage but she seems to not care for her husband anyway so I feel it's not a "loss". Maybe Su-ah should've had a scene with her mom but in the end her mom is still arrogant, manipulative and I feel that's a bad way of showing how someone manipulative like her got a "happy ending".

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Alls well that ends well! Happy with the ending though it felt a bit rushed and drawn out at the same time. So pleased to see the redemption of Su-a. I am glad she finally recognized that her behavior was not good.

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Ok, I actually really liked this show and the characters. And that is even with the suicides and the murders. I can actually do without that but every Kdrama that is school related that I have seen have those plot lines. And I'm wondering.... the first girl that got beaned with a metal ball.... did she survive? I hope so.

The Banchan scenes were always top-notch and the inter-play was well-written. The banning of Pride Academy staff but not parents or students was just perfect.

The story lines were well crafted. Nam Hae-yi cleverly dispatched her 'mother' back to Japan with a better character with her brief sojourn with the family. And the scene with her running to her aunt and calling her Mom was a perfect reminder of when they first fell into those roles.

Final comment.... I thought Su-a was the most normal character as she did play the mean girl but kept her evil thoughts in check and really played it well as a student struggling to maintain her position including developing mental issues. It was nice to see her come around to finally develop some friendships.

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I keep forgetting. I was amused that Jang Seo-jin worked at 'T&A' Law Firm. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more??

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