My Liberation Notes: Episodes 9-10
by quirkycase
We finally get some answers about our mysterious Sanpo resident who is finding he can’t keep running from his past. While he contemplates his choices, our siblings continue growing bolder and going after what they want, even if things don’t always work out the way they hope.
EPISODES 9-10 WEECAP
Our introverted couple continues to do their thing with Mi-jung getting more and more comfortable. She’s even downright chatty at times, surprising herself. She tells the club lady at work that she’s always held back because she didn’t think anyone would be interested in what she had to say; freely saying what’s on her mind has made her feel lovable for the first time.
One night, Mi-jung and Gu are walking home, and Mi-jung starts talking about dead neighborhood animals. She sips her drink and grosses Gu out while she mimics the sound of exploding frogs when they get hit by cars resulting in “frog confetti.” HA.
Meanwhile, Ki-jung has mostly worked through her embarrassment over Tae-hoon’s rejection. She tells her boss Jin-woo all about it, even showing him Tae-hoon’s nice text checking on her and saying he hopes to be friends since she’s supportive and fun to be around. Tae-hoon’s kind reaction helps Ki-jung take a positive perspective and see this whole thing as a learning opportunity.
Ki-jung ends up going to Tae-hoon’s oldest sister Hwi-sun’s bar. She’s nervous about seeing Tae-hoon again but determined to move past her embarrassment. He’s super nice, as usual, and things seem to be going well. That is, until Yu-rim tells her aunt Kyung-sun about what Ki-jung said that day they first saw her in the restaurant.
Kyung-sun is livid and confronts Ki-jung about it. Tae-hoon tries to calm his sister down, but she’s not having it. When she notices an odd vibe between Ki-jung and Tae-hoon, Ki-jung tells her the truth about confessing and getting rejected. That said, it seems like Tae-hoon may indeed like Ki-jung which is probably not going to go over well with his sister.
Adding to her troubles, Ki-jung’s coworkers take note of her newfound closeness with her boss Jin-woo and are not happy about it. Jin-woo’s current office girlfriend confronts her about it, saying it looks to everyone like Ki-jung is making a move on him. Once again embarrassed, Ki-jung bursts into tears and apologizes profusely, making the coworker feel awkward and guilty.
Elsewhere, Chang-hee finally calls his irritating coworker Ah-reum out on her manipulative behavior, which is pretty satisfying. While no one likes her, Chang-hee’s hatred is a little over the top. Over drinks, his friend wonders if Chang-hee would hate her so much if she weren’t rich.
Of the siblings, Chang-hee is the most concerned with money and seems very insecure over being (somewhat) poor. His happy place is imagining himself in his own fancy car. So when he spots the key to a Rolls-Royce in Gu’s bathroom, he deems Gu his “savior” and is determined to get close to him.
He keeps barging in on poor Gu, dropping by unannounced and chatting his ear off while Gu looks on the verge of losing his mind. Chang-hee seems to think they have a good relationship now and tells him all about how he didn’t get that promotion he wanted, but he gave it his all so he’s okay.
Speaking of Gu, we get a lot more information this week about him and what led him here. He truly did get off at the wrong station that day, but it might’ve saved his life. Boss Baek, the man who spotted Gu in Sanpo, had his gang waiting for Gu at the station he was supposed to be at. The story isn’t entirely clear, but money and a personal grudge are at the center of it.
We see in flashback that Gu had been asleep on the train and woke when a woman’s voice yelled, “Get off!” He’d hopped off the train to find himself in Sanpo. The next day, he heard that same voice as a woman walked by him – it was Mi-jung. She’d been yelling at a drunk Chang-hee on the train that night.
In the present, Boss Baek spots Gu again and this time, they sit down for a chat. Their conversation is barbed, despite the smiles. Apparently, Boss Baek’s sister was Gu’s ex-girlfriend. Boss Baek blames Gu for her death.
Soon after, Gu tells Mi-jung about his ex’s death, implying she was suicidal and claiming he pushed her over the edge. Honestly, it’s not clear exactly why he’s to blame, but we only have vague details on the story.
All of a sudden, Gu seems determined to push Mi-jung away, perhaps afraid she’s getting too close. Besides telling her he caused his ex’s death, he says Mi-jung frightens him and gets upset when she saves him (again), this time from a pack of wild dogs.
Mi-jung can tell he’s trying to push her away and is not happy about it. She accuses him of running away when it gets too real, scoffing at how he treated her like a fool for the loan situation when he’s worse. Is it really so hard to treat the person he likes well? Mi-jung doesn’t give up on him, though, to his surprise – she tells him she still thinks he’s alright and wants to continue dating.
Tired of being hunted, Gu goes back to his old nightclub to confront Boss Baek. From the way everyone bows to him when he shows up, it looks like Gu was high in the ranks. He thanks Boss Baek for stabbing him in the back and giving him the opportunity to take a break. Gu threatens Boss Baek, saying to leave him be until he decides whether he’s going to come back or stay in Sanpo making sinks.
Then, Gu picks Mi-jung up at work and takes her to grab a meal. I guess he’s not giving up on the relationship either. Chang-hee is thrilled to see they’ve made up since he sees Mi-jung as his in with the possibly rich Gu.
Chang-hee can’t hold it in anymore and directly asks Gu about the car. He practically begs Gu to tell him where it is and let him drive it. Surprisingly, Gu gives in and actually shows Chang-hee the car, letting him take it for a spin. Chang-hee completely freaks out, squealing and everything.
Then we get an abrupt scene cut to Gu and Mi-jung running through a field, chasing after a flock of birds in flight. Gu looks lighter than we’ve ever seen him, smiling and free.
Another abrupt scene cut later, and we’re ringing in the year 2022 at Gu’s club. It looks like he returned. We end the episode with Gu alone in Seoul as Mi-jung says in voiceover how all her boyfriends have been jerks.
What even just happened? Those last few minutes gave me whiplash. Given how happy Gu looked in Sanpo, what made him leave? I wonder if he’s truly returning to his former life or if he’s dealing with loose ends so he can move on. I guess we’ll have to wait until next week to find out what the heck happened between frolicking in the fields and celebrating the new year in style.
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1 pohonphee
May 10, 2022 at 8:06 AM
Mr. Gu is that you? I'm going fangirling like Chang-hee did. 😍
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2 Nal
May 10, 2022 at 8:36 AM
When Chang-hee put A-Reum in her place I clapped and asked for more. 😂😂😂 I was honestly sooooo happy for Chang-hee when he drove his dream car; he deserves some happiness.
Sigh Ki-jeong...Did she really this his daughter was never going to tell her aunt? I really can't wait for her to get all the ball of emotions she has in control. I'll actively start shipping her and her boss (after he obviously sorts out whatever he has going on with that co-worker).
Mr Gu was mean to Mi-jeong but I'm happy he snapped out of it. Mafia boss Gu is a mood and I was fangirling hard when he walked in as a boss 😍
Ps: Chang-hee has definitely grown on Mr Gu😂
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3 Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
May 10, 2022 at 8:45 AM
Ep. 9: Holy crap, Gu’s facial expressions when MJ asks why animals die belly-up. And then even more when she imitates the sound of frogs bursting when they get run over by a car! He looks at her like she’s an alien. A really disgusting alien. All the while she’s cheerfully drinking her iced coffee like she’s talking about shopping or something. City boy, meet country girl. Then there’s the fabulous juxtaposition of her telling the club counselor that she feels lovable when she says whatever comes into her head and Gu racing ahead of her like he’s running from a succubus.
Ep. 10: What the heck? Did they change writers for this episode? What show am I even watching? KJ’s behavior is so extreme, fishtailing between resilience and uncontrollable crying, that she seems to be headed for a nervous breakdown. It’s particularly difficult to reconcile CH’s juvenile fanboying behavior (jumping into Gu’s arms, seriously?) with his character in previous episodes. It’s like he’s been written as a different person suddenly. And other characters kept saying in earlier episodes that Jo Kyung-sun (Tae-hoon’s sister) is a lot, but nothing really prepared me for that vicious, vindictive attack on KJ and then the celebratory meanness in front of Tae-hoon and Yu-rim. She’s insane. Everyone’s gone insane.
I’m trying to figure out the timeline relative to New Year’s Eve 2022. Was everything that’s happened so far actually set sometime in the past? Has it all been one giant flashback? Ugh, this show that had been so wonderful just exploded into fragments flying in every direction at once, and I’m seriously worried that it’s going to be a flaming wreck before the end.
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DancingEmma
May 10, 2022 at 8:54 AM
I love that you used the word ‘succubus’.
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wapz
May 10, 2022 at 10:11 AM
I agree with you , episode 10 went in all directions. I'm not sure what it was about but actually I'm really not sure what the entire show is about.
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 10:47 AM
It's about redemption. Liberation! eheheh sorry ,did not resist. Writer is great at coming up with relatable, likable, troubled characters, but doesn't know how to develop them.
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Kafiyah Bello
May 10, 2022 at 10:17 AM
This comment is gold. I have no idea what happened in episode 10 either.
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 10:46 AM
I did not thought more people would have been confused by ep 10 but I'm glad it wasn't just me.
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jc somewhere
May 10, 2022 at 10:58 PM
you're right, ep 10 was a bit strange. on the subject of Tae-hoon's sister, I did not buy her story at all. She says she gave up everything to raise her niece, but I suspect it was the opportunity of raising her that gave her life some meaning, and she might be leaning a little too hard on the niece for support there. I guess we'll see.
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KittyKItty
May 13, 2022 at 8:45 PM
I was trying to use Gu's hair length in that last New Year's scene, to gauge how long since we saw him in Sanpo. Seems like it was a while.
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gcey
May 16, 2022 at 10:54 PM
I thought I was the only one who thinks evrything has ben perfect till ep.9 and boom ep.10 feels like all over the place
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4 danyavln
May 10, 2022 at 8:49 AM
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5 danyavln
May 10, 2022 at 8:51 AM
Mi-Jeong is my favorite. I found her to be quite irrational at first but no, she's a frickin legend. Instead of pleading for a guy to like her, she makes the audacious demand for a man to worship her. She didn't "earn" Gu's attention, she just was herself - straight up. This weekend's episode continued to show her persistence in a very non-intrusive way. This unconditional fondness she has for Gu is just resilient. MI-JEONG is an icon...definitely in my hall-of-fame of outstanding kdrama female leads.
Ok, who is better...Taehun or Gi-jeong's boss? Cause Gi-jeong got 2 options imo.
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The Kdrama Enthusiast
May 10, 2022 at 9:14 AM
Ki-jung's boss. I really don't want her to end up with Tae-hoon. If he was single, maybe. But he's a dad with a daughter with whom he needs to sort things out first. It seems like he and his daughter have some friction. Dating Ki-jung, whom his daughter already doesn't like, would be a recipe for disaster.
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danyavln
May 10, 2022 at 9:25 AM
Very true, I feel that. I think Gi-jeong and Tae-hoon will become strong individuals from their interactions with each other, but those moments do not have to result in a relationship.
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miss h
May 10, 2022 at 10:08 AM
True. Also, while Ki-jung apologized for the remarks that they overheard, I don't know that her thinking has really changed. She really hasn't spent any time contemplating what it means to date someone who has a kid. She just went starry eyed over Tae Hoon and bulldozed forward.
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM
Except the worship was something utilitarian. It was made to be a tool. making him like her would be so much harder, she would have to earn that and she's understandably tired and doesn't even know him. So if he "adores" her, it works both ways, saves him from self harm and gives her some self esteem since she can't manage on her own. It's practical but also super sad and far from legendary. Fondness? It's just sexual attraction and a pleasant fantasy. She doesn't even want to know much about him yet.
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danyavln
May 10, 2022 at 1:48 PM
I can see where your perspective is coming from but kinda beg to differ. Mi-Jeong is still irrational to me, but that doesn't make her devoid of curiosity and genuine compassion. As the youngest sibling myself, I find that I am the weirdest and when I don't have siblings I can truly confide in or even parents who will listen, I make some irrational decisions. Thing is, Mi-Jeong grows over time. Her command for worship didn't have the same meaning as when she used it later on. The command became an exchange. She cares for the people around her, just clever enough not to show care through poking or asking questions all the time.
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hacja
May 10, 2022 at 2:30 PM
Mi-Jeong felt her "imprisonment" came from her insecurity and inability to act confidently, but she was wrong. In fact she has a strong sense of herself, and she is plenty resourceful. So the relationship with Gu so far has made her realize that about herself.
Now, I have to agree with @lixie, that up to this point she has not showed a great deal of compassion for others. (in fact I'm curious, @danyavin--where have you seen this compassion up to now? With the rest of the liberation club, it wasn't compassion, it was a demand for respect. Even with Gu--of course there's great attraction, but I have not seen compassion YET.
However, I would not be surprised if she shows sympathy and compassion, especially with Gu in subsequent episodes, now that she has emerged into herself.
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 2:41 PM
She blames herself for her stale situation and inability to act. I think she's very neurotic, like all the others. Honestly it's just frustrating that 10 eps have gone by and they have not learned much. They don't question the toxic parents, the coworkers, the job itself, the other brothers, they only search for fake romance and somebody to save them from themselves.
danyavln
May 11, 2022 at 9:20 AM
Her acts of compassion are subtle, but examples are her apologizing to Tae-hoon on behalf of her sister (she didn't have to and I wouldn't), waiting with reception at home when her sister was rejected, helping her drunk brother, and for Gu...I can see from your and other perspectives here that her intentions for her kindness are questionable so I'll rethink that part. I guess it's more that I don't see her to be an ice-cold person. The fact that she sits and listens to her brother and friends and does smile in those times - there's an empathetic spirit there that's definitely growing.
To find any sort of kindness when you're in the middle of such a depressing time of your life, that's commendable.
But thanks for challenging me to think deeper about her character! I'll continue to do so
Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 2:35 PM
Why is she irrational? She's very rational to me kk. I think she is curious and has compassion, I just think the relationship itself has been very superficial and that she hasn't grown much.
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danyavln
May 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM
Irrational in that she asks a guy she doesn't know to worship her, pays off a grown man's debt, decides to date another (pretty much) bad dude, and just surprises me with responses and thoughts that seem so -- her, just I would've never expected it? Maybe *irrational* isn't the word then
Screentime
May 12, 2022 at 4:44 PM
@danyavln
Thank you! It is like many people are forgetting the story so far.
I also suspect "irrational" is the wrong term and she herself gave us the indication in her first journal note.
Someone who tells us she has a long history of terrible dating decisions - then tells us she recognised all the signals but ignored them (the part she disliked of them). So instead of solving the issue by recognising that those signals mean danger and stealing clear of such partners, will instead now solve the problem by interpreting any negatives as love...What could go wrong?
What makes that journal entry so depressing is that it is essentially a manifesto for being a doormat.
Lilipepper
May 10, 2022 at 6:10 PM
From episode 1 both Mi Jeong and Gu had this 'awareness' of each other - it was silent an unspoken. It was not just loneliness but sense of awareness of a kindred spirit. It is that same 'awareness' that allows Gu to work so well with the Dad. So it is not surprising that, Mi Jeong, who is most like her Dad out of the 3 siblings, also feels that 'awareness' with Gu. I think that is why she knew she could approach him with the strange request for worship and she would be accepted - someone else would have just dismissed her as 'weird.'
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Lilipepper
May 10, 2022 at 6:16 PM
So to conclude - I don't think it is just sexual attraction and fantasy.
From Gu's standpoint as well I don't think he just 'adores' her because he thinks that liking her can maybe fix him. That is certainly a part of it - but he is curious about her. When he speaks about her instincts being strong he means that she has not learnt to be superficial like most adults do in society. Always worried about saying the write thing or filling up silence with meaningless chatter... he adores that in her because that is a battle within himself. He is similar but living in Seoul he had to learn to adapt - this has made him weary and world worn. This is why he finds solace working at Sanpo sinks with an old who hardly talks if he doesnt have to and finds himself developing affection for Mi Jeong.
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 8:21 PM
I forgot when someone talks about sexual attraction others might think it's about bodies. It's not, it's sometimes mostly about the mind and personality. The fact they are introverted was always a big pull and created this awareness you speak of, I will only say attraction when I talk about them later, to avoid any confusion.
I think she felt the courage to make that request not only because of the awareness but because he is someone as tired as she is, maybe even worse because his behavior might be more self destructive.
From Gu's I don't think he adores because it might fix him. I think the idea never crossed his mind. It's about doing something that might be good for her and somewhat entertaining for him. He's not just running, he's also profoundly bored but I do agree he likes people who are as straightforward as he likes to be and she is one of them.
Lilipepper
May 11, 2022 at 3:25 AM
I didnt think of bodies at all when you said sexual attraction. Sexual attraction by its very definition is based on sexual desire which can be aroused by many different factors. As they are both adults I am sure sexual attraction may be part of it but....
While they may both be exhausted and needing respite, it is the fact that they sense that they can find peace in each other that causes this attraction not, I think, sexual desire.
This is unique to them because interacting with most ppl makes them feel exhausted not at peace
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Lilipepper
May 11, 2022 at 3:30 AM
*Meant to say* ..... they can find peace in each other that causes this attraction not, I think, NOT sexual desire.
6 gadis
May 10, 2022 at 8:52 AM
I'm trying to apply Chang-hee's friend's advice to him and find out the real reason I reacted in a very particular way when it comes to our leads.
I found that I could hardly relate to Ki-jung even though she was a very fascinating and entertaining character. I think it's because her journey is largely about learning how to navigate the world with a realistic perspective that's probably coming a bit too late given her age (whic would explain my initial annoyance at her). I sympathize with her struggle because few things could be as discouraging as playing catch up with the rest of the world, and I admire her for pushing herself to cross the endless mountains in front of her. She used to have this almost utopian and dystopian view on her life that sometimes made her seemed far-removed from the reality around her. But she grew from a character I felt distantly annoyed at to someone I wholeheartedly root for to keep maturing. It's now a delight to see her marveling at the small lessons she got, like being able to build a genuine friendship with the most unexpected person, and how being rejected doesn't equal feeling humiliated and unloved.
My feelings towards Chang-hee is a big mystery for quite some time. I always found him very relatable in his most absurd moment, but he still annoyed me in this inexplainable way the rest of the time. It's only this week that I found out the real reason.
Chang-hee, for better or worse, always has a real and truthful view about "monetary possession". A lot of people in the real world would agree that while we don't want to be materialistic, it's true that money influenced the way we live our lives. Ironically, when it comes to fictional world, especially one with this kind of leads, we somehow wanted these characters to be above it. To not let their lives shaped by the monetary possession they have and not. Which was quite hypocritical of us (or maybe that's just me). I'm glad though that this drama decided to be just as real as it could be, even on that front, which resulted in a lot of seemingly hilarious scenes that hit me right on the feels.
Chang-hee's friend hit it on the nail with his comment on how Chang-hee would hate Ah-reum a lot less if they stood on similar ground, financially speaking. It's a shameful truth that might have hit us in real life one way or another (at least I have) and it's no less embarassing to witness a fictional character coming to the same realization that our petty jealousy and envy could define our behaviour so completely to the point of blindsiding us. Which was why his hilarious solution involving Gu's Rolls-Royce is funny in that slightly bitter way because coming from experience, I know it could work. You know, that temporary solution of placating yourself that at least you've taste what luxury feels like so that the derisive comments from the other party could lose some of its potent.
Mi-jung is always the sibling whose thoughts resonated...
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gadis
May 10, 2022 at 8:54 AM
Mi-jung is always the sibling whose thoughts resonated with me the most. It's easy to see that her journey is all about self-love and how it tangled with the way she sees her self-worth. She grows with leaps and bounds, and her relationship with Gu is one of the most beautiful depiction of the surety of having somone by your side. Which is why, while the end of eps 10 hinted at dark times ahead, I'm not too worried about Mi-jung. I think she has found enough self-confidence and ability to love herself that a shakeup like that wouldn't damage her progress too badly. As for Gu...
I always wonder if Gu's story is ultimately about second chance and finding a curved road that unexpectedly bring him to his true self. To his true calling. About finding his real, honest place in the world after 15 years of exhausted "underground" luxury.
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wapz
May 10, 2022 at 10:38 AM
Thanks for this, it made me understand Chang hee better. That dialogue with Chang Hee and his friend was gold. It made me realize that at some places we are all like that, not liking someone for a reason we may not like in ourselves. That is the essence of envy.
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hacja
May 10, 2022 at 3:02 PM
I don't like Chang-hee as a character at all (I do think Lee Min Ki is doing a great job with his over-the-top portrayal however!) Self-absorption is so far the main theme of this show, but I find his self-absorption the least appealing of all the characters. I certainly understand his feelings, but not because I myself would have an orgasmic reaction to driving a Rolls!
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7 Dreamer205
May 10, 2022 at 9:02 AM
Mr Gu thinks he deserves to be punished. He said misfortunes should come in small amounts but MJ prevented some of those misfortunes from happening; she inadvertently helped him avoid an attack from Mr Baek, she saved him from the thunderstorm and in the lastest turn of events she saved him from the wild dogs. Most importantly MJ will be the one to save Mr Gu from himself. He thinks preventing those misfortunes will result even worse misfortunes because he anticipates them. He's not just suffering from Survivor's Guilt, he said he was a dead man walking before, the business and relationship he was in must have been extremely toxic to suck all the life out of him.
So far we've only seen mostly "worshipping" from Mr Gu's side but I think it is through his relationship with MJ that he's able to find a purpose, a will to live again, not just exist. Of course his life in Sanpo plays a part too. Mr Gu needs to learn to let go of his guilt and allow himself to be happy. I think MJ first approached Mr Gu because she recognised that they're similar damaged people who live life without a purpose. The sight of him sitting outside in the middle of a thunderstorm, not giving a toss whether he could be struck any minute, is not too different from MJ not caring whether the world would end today. She ushered him inside from the storm and saved him because deep down she also wants to be saved. Contrary what she said she hasn't completely given up on life, she still wished to be genuinely happy. They're people who are stuck inside prisons they've built themselves and through each other they'll find to courage, will and encouragement to break free.
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8 Scottie
May 10, 2022 at 10:01 AM
So happy that I am not the only one to be confused! Even after re-watching the last episode. Thanks fellow beanies for your highly interesting comments, they are really a great help.
So many extraordinary scenes - the wild dogs, Chang-hee and the Rolls Royce, another dinner date of Mi-jung and Gu without words. Waiting for the next episodes is sheer torture.
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Alluvial_Fan
May 10, 2022 at 11:38 AM
Me too! I actually decided I was overly tired and didn't understand the last 10 minutes. My only guess is the running with geese scene is a dream and the 2022 New Years a premonition?
I recall that this screenwriter inserted some imagination/dream sequences into My Ahjussi (where eldest brother was planning a bling-out holiday with his brothers).
Ki-jung constantly compressing her lips during the office smack down and the octopus dinner just epitomizes her trying everything to keep from blurting out all her thoughts.
I will return to trusting this writer - please don't fall apart, please.
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hacja
May 10, 2022 at 1:48 PM
Yes, while I couldn't say for sure, I would say that the abrupt switch from Chang-hee laughing in exhilaration because he was realizing his dream of driving a luxury car through city streets was Gu ( dreaming of or imagining) the two alternatives he'd laid out to the other gangster, with the flying geese beautifully mirroring sparks from the firecrackers.
I am (so far) philosophically opposed to the message of this show, but you have to admire its artistic vision!
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Mike
May 10, 2022 at 8:57 PM
This is the same author who wrote 'Another Oh Hae Young' which is replete with forward and backward time jumps. It was the author telling us 'Don't get bored halfway through, this is what you have to look forward to'.
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9 Kafiyah Bello
May 10, 2022 at 10:25 AM
I am trying to figure out what happened in episode 10. Everyone except Mi Jong went left. Seeing Gu smiling as they frolicked through the field was legitimately unnerving, I was like what is happening? As for Chang Hee and the car, that was kind of funny, it was weird though. Ki Jung just lost the pot though, my goodness girl, gather yourself together you are almost 40.
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10 wapz
May 10, 2022 at 10:32 AM
I'm a little confused over how I feel about this show and if I even get it. I don't understand why everyone is fond of Mr Gu to begin with. I can get Dad, he finds his work ethic commendable. But to others especially Chang Hee, I don't know why he likes him this much or is it simply because of his money? Plus, I can see how and why MJ is changing, I don't get how Mr Gu is changing.
Ki Jung is probably the most clear character. She has a growth arc. Ep 10 may have been one step forward and two steps back but at least her steps towards growth are actually shown. For MJ and Gu they seem to be happening off screen, or maybe I really can't grasp how their worshipping is helping them. I also believe that they are still not romantically involved yet but they are reaching there.
I hope Ki Jung gives up on Tae hoon now. There is a deep rooted problem with his sister. Probably after their parents departed, she has known her siblings to be her only family. From her conversation with her neice, we can tell she doesn't feel good about her ex sister in law either. Her declaring that she and her sister will never get married because of Yu Rim but getting pissed off at the thought of Tae hoon seeing someone else is just signalling how she doesn't want her concept of family to break. Which is essentially she and her siblings. She probably wouldn't welcome any person in Tae hoon's life. She makes it sound that it's a big sacrifice for Yu Rim's sake but it's actually solely for her sake. She doesn't want the family she has known to fall apart after her parent's demise. This is toxic behavior but it probably wouldn't have happened had her parents been alive. So I'm not sure if she can be blamed for it, maybe if she does not intend to grow.
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Doppelganger
May 10, 2022 at 8:52 PM
I don't understand why everyone is fond of Mr Gu to begin with.
I agree with you that the writer has not developed this properly, but just wrote it as everyone is intrigued by Mr Gu as a plot device, and we the audience buy it because he's being played by Son Seokkoo who is mad seductive.
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Mike
May 10, 2022 at 9:02 PM
There's an acting theory, if you make your performance a blank slate the audience will fill in the blanks with their own imagination. So they're basically projecting attributes onto Gu. 'We're getting close, he likes me!' Its rather like Gu imagining he has a rapport with the wild dogs in the field.
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Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 11:31 PM
Chang-Hee is the only son in the family and his father doesn't talk so much. He doesn't like so much to live there so any new thing is a happy thing for him.
Mr Gu changed too. Before it was just working and drinking. Now, he talks to MJ by messages, in his home or by walking together. He waits for her at the station. He started to open himself to her and to the life.
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Alluvial_Fan
May 11, 2022 at 3:54 AM
Could big sister have been a factor in Tae hoon's wife leaving? I agree she is a toxic bully who manipulates her family and calls it love. This is another set of siblings that should not be living together. Poor Yu Rim, growing up in that mess.
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Dreamer205
May 11, 2022 at 11:35 AM
Mr Gu is a reliable worker, like you mentioned, Dad would like him for his work ethnic. What made the first impression for me, and I think for MJ too, was when Mr Gu went to work at 7am instead of 9am per MJ's instruction. He doesn't say much but he's perceptive and does the right thing without needing to be asked. He does it again when MJ asked for his help with the letter and not just half-heartedly, he's a man of his word. When MJ asked him to "worship" her his response was realistic and honest. He didn't laugh or mock at her, he merely gave her a much needed dose of reality. In MJ's desperation she could have easily been taken advantage of but Mr Gu never once did that. Once he's made up his mind he made it known and his actions followed. He's respectful in asking for MJ's number through Dad. He minds his own business and is respectful when it comes to the Yeom's family matters. He doesn't take payment for the farm work but more than that he doesn't make a fuss or try to earn favours. Same again when he rattled the bottles to assure MJ, all done with good intentions without a word uttered. I find his straight forward manner honourable. I can't speak for others but to me a reliable, honourable, respectful man who's more actions than words is attractive. One might argue that he's not being honest about his identity and past but to me he didn't do it with an ulterior motive. He never lied about his identity when he could have made up something to make his life easier.
Regarding how their worshipping is helping them, as MJ said to "worship" someone is to believe in them and cheer them on. It's companionship at first that leads to opening up and understanding and then acceptance. To have someone who understands, accepts and supports you wholeheartedly, isn't that what we all want and crave? My Ahjusshi has shown us how unconditional kindness can help turn a person's life around, MLN is about how faith and encouragement can lead to changes for betterment. I think the journey to self betterment requires a lot of courage and to have someone sincerely believes in and supports you is a huge driving force. .
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beanslover
May 11, 2022 at 10:32 PM
@dreamer205 love your comments, especially about Mr. Gu. So swoon
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Healer’s
June 8, 2022 at 6:50 AM
Thank you for the beautiful interpretation.
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11 Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 10:42 AM
In the first half of this drama I thought the four main characters were great but the drama itself not so much. After this week I don't know what to think about the characters. Episode 9 was terribly slow and draggy but at least it was still logical. What happened to those people in ep 10? They seemed so out of character and strange. Well, they were always strange but not that kind of strange.
Mi-Jeong was my favorite but she has become a bit tiresome because drama did nothing with her. No backstory, we know very little about her past (or the other brothers), the conman, the family, not even how she really feels about her brothers or coworkers. Yes, we know she feels opressed, they all do, but show had plenty of time to develop that. So maybe the romance could mean something? No, they just bicker occasionally, with no real development. The sexual tension is ignored, I'm fine with that, as unrealistic as it is, but it leads nowhere, there is not even a good platonic relationship.
Gi-Jeong was my least favorite because she was too self-absorbed and immature. She got the best development because she had two chances of plot, the dating advices with her boss and the awkward relationship with Tae-Hoon, she was the one doing more to change her present situation but even more bizarre than her decision to fake amnesia was her pitiful reaction to the crazy sister act. Where is that loud woman from the first eps? Why was she crying? Did the scene end abruptly because it was too crazy?
Chang-Hee was a likable weirdo. Until he became obssessed with a key to a luxury car. It was so much better when he was just a stressed, lonely, talkative guy, trying to get a promotion and make friends with his alcoholic neighbor. Why would he care so much about driving another man's car?
I'm not even going to get into the boringness that is Gu's mafia past.
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12 chibi8535
May 10, 2022 at 11:02 AM
I haven't watched this week's episodes fully, but I'm just here to say I'm loving how Mi-Jeong is gradually proving herself to be weird even by Gu's standards. It was adorable seeing 'Mr. No-Expressions' freaked out at the graphic description of frog entrails scattered across the road! xD
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13 jerrykuvira
May 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM
Never was I was expecting Gu to be a gangster. I thought he was a sportsman who got mixed up with the wrong people. Or did he retire from sports and ventured into the other world? Or was he always both? Never was I expecting that he'd also give that car to Chang-hee, with an earful!
I do love the mystery around Mystery Guy. And the squeal knowing he's having a deep-rooted background, he's not a nobody- all-rounded.
Tae-hoon's apology had me back on his ship again just when I didn't want to. So that made Boss Jin-woo's stare as Ki-jung went to Tae-hoon's bar all the more
heart wrenchingtorn to watch.I believe what Gu told his ex is a double-edged sword. She could have drawn strength and assurance, or hopelessness from it. We see the choice she choose. But what is strange is Gu's comment about wanting to put her outta her misery.
I guess we are going to get a little more about Daddy Yeom. His backstory is one interesting arc I want to see.
Mi-jung and Gu keep remaining smitten by each other. And their eyes are just dreamy when they stare at each other.
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14 Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 11:18 AM
None of them are normal in this family! Mr Gu's face had my whole attention during those episodes.
Chang-Hee : He's very professionnal and hard-working but at home, he has no boundaries. Who go to their neighbour to use their WC, without knocking at the door and waiting for an answer... But he has a way to break wall because he's genuine. From the start, we know that he has an obsession for luxurious car, so it wasn't surprising that he completely lost it when he saw the key and after the car.
Gi-Jeong : It was painful to watch. I didn't understand why she didn't even try to defend herself or to leave the discussion... She stayed and cried. She's not lucky because Tae-Hun sends very mixed messages honestly. I don't understand how he could let Gyeong-Seon shed her venom. I don't like she uses his daughter to justify her miserable life, "I'm alone but it's to be the perfect aunt..." her niece won't bear it for long. The boss is really a nice character.
Mi-Jeong : they have a thing with creepy death in this family... For her relationship with Mr Gu, I wonder if she was hurt by the fact he got in this state because of a woman. He was cleary suffering and tried to pushed her and she said something pretty mean. So I'm not sure why she was expecting something from him when she was responsible too. It's crazy like we can get a meal between them where nobody talk but I'm still swooning a lot!
Mr. Gu : We got more informations about his past! It was nice to see him talking to Mr. Baek, we are not used to hear him talking so long. He's self destructive but he's always stopped by Mi-Jeong. So the worship thing really helped him. I liked how the father tried to explain that his shop was a good business, as a futur son-in-law. He totally approved him as Mi-Jeong's boyfriend.
For the chronology, I wonder in which year they're. I read on Twitter it was 2019. So there will be a time jump.
I don't understand Korean and the way they handle alcohol. You can't save a person from alcoholism if he doesn't want. But do you really have to remind him he didn't buy alcohol? Asking why he's not drinking? Offering him free bottles?
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Nal
May 10, 2022 at 12:53 PM
I thought I didn't hear well when she asked him why he was not drinking.
The meal scene was just perfect
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wapz
May 10, 2022 at 1:27 PM
This writer really doesn't mind her characters drinking a lot and doesn't show that as a problem. Oh hae young used to drink a looot. In my Ajusshi the whole neighborhood used to gather in a bar and play drinking games. I rolled my eyes when they decided that shooting a video of Dong Hoon assembling drinks the way they do in Korea was a good idea for his son's, "what's your dad's special talent" video. But in this show CH's friend explicitly called him an alcoholic, you would expect the take to be different but it isn't as much.
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PYC
May 11, 2022 at 5:54 AM
Drinking culture is deeply ingrained in Korea. Whenever I go to Korea for work, dinner is only a prelude. What gets every man and woman excited is where to go for the first round (of drinks) and then the second round. Two rounds at two different locations are the basic minimum and it could go on till the morning. I am not a drinker but I had my first soju bomb during one of the work trips because it’s quite irresistible that you have to do it.
So, in short, all these excessive drinking we are seeing in dramas is true to real life there - and no big deal. It cuts across gender, single and married, just part of the culture.
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pohonphee
May 10, 2022 at 4:47 PM
What is considered 'normal'? I have such low standard for normalcy and craziness, lol I think the family and the characters in this drama are just pretty normal to me. 😅
I like Ki-jeong because when you want to cry you should just cry, if you want to laugh despite nothing is funny, you should just laugh. I like Chang-hee because he can find happiness in smallest and absurd things. I thought I would root for Mi-jeong the most in the early eps but I'm more interested in these two lately.
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Kurama
May 10, 2022 at 11:00 PM
I like them too. But I think you need to ask the permission before to enter in the house of someone to use his WC, that trying to get knock down to act the amnesia card is not a very smart plan, and mimic the noises of frogs being running over by a car is weird.
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Alluvial_Fan
May 12, 2022 at 6:01 AM
"Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.
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15 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
May 10, 2022 at 11:36 AM
I don´t know if the best bromance of the show is Chang Hee x Du Hwan or Chang Hee x dude Gu.
Maybe the three of them should be friends, just saying.
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16 dramalover4ever
May 10, 2022 at 12:57 PM
I've decided one of the key themes in MLN is centred on talking: that it can be empty, useless chatter or it can be truthful. At the same time, silence can be powerful.
When you think of the drama from this perspective, so much fits.
1. The silence between the father and Gu when they work and how they anticipate each other, as if, as the mother comments, they've known each other in a past life.
2. The endless empty chatter of the people in the city: the office girls in the different workplaces
3. The vicious or insensitive words of Ah-reum and also Ki-jung's workmate.
4. Mi-jung's words and her silences: asking Gu to worship her, shouting "get off" at the station. Her truth bomb that made Gu go to the city to face up to things.
5. Ki-jung's careless words that hurt the little girl so much and that led her to meet Tae-hoon.
6. Jin-woo and Ki-jung's honest discussions that allow Ki-jung to face up to her issues with courage.
7. The wordless Liberation Club who write their way towards the core issues in their lives and end up uttering their deepest truths about themselves.
8. Gu's words that resulted in the death of his ex.
9. Chang-hee's endless yapping within which surfaces golden nuggets of honesty and self realisation
10. Mi-jung's unselfconscious ramblings that have grown out of feeling lovable.
Words can dull and even be death dealing. Alternatively they can be liberating. Silence can offer a deep understanding. Words and silence can heal and provide the soil for closeness and even love. People are exhausted by useless, meaningless words (as Gu says to Boss Baek) or they can be restored and even saved by the right words spoken at the right time.
Totally love this drama. It's all about the words (and the silences).
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Lixie
May 10, 2022 at 2:58 PM
Can I comment on the topics? Please don't mind if I have some different ideas?
1- They are comfortable because neither wants to share anything and they value how perfect they fit together as working team.
2- It's a bit cliche, too much empty chatter to make MJ be the sensitive soul of that bunch.
3- She's way too weird to be realistic though her scenes are amusing because of CH ramblings.
4- MJ usually talks as if she's talking only to herself
5- That speech did not have that much value, she was just a random stranger, crazy family keeps acting as if it's a big deal, kid has certainly heard much worse from people closer.
6- A nice moment, he gives terrible advice but it's realistic
7- Older guy is fantastic
8- He just told her to seek therapy
9- best part of the show
10 - MJ speeches are coming from trying to break free of her shell
11 - The horrible empty silences in that house! Everything not being said and not allowed to come outside. The source of all crazy talk.
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dramalover4ever
May 10, 2022 at 11:02 PM
Different ideas are good. I don't find the silence in the family discomforting. Everyone ends up saying what they need to. The value of what Mi-jung says is in its truthfulness. She sees herself as an outsider, and this is characteristic of her personality. I don't disagree with much else that you've said. Their "weirdness" seems quite normal to me, poetic, but normal. I love that they get to the truth, especially about themselves.
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flatwhite
May 11, 2022 at 1:03 AM
This. I was thinking that if you watched the drama like you read a poem, everything seemed normal. You go into the plots, listen to the words and feel their impacts and the show will be phenomenal.
That is what MLN is doing to me.
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Lixie
May 11, 2022 at 8:35 AM
Really? I thought the only thing drama made sure to convey in every episode was how toxic is that silence every dinner. The brothers always looking down and anxious, CH sometimes daring to speak only to be shut by the father. I think none of them said anything they needed to for a long time and the first ep is when the brothers start to try to make changes about that. MJ had some speech about the mother blaming the kids and how she felt the need to protect the mother from knowing anything that might trouble her, a very neurotic relationship, don't really remember which ep was that.
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gadis
May 10, 2022 at 4:24 PM
I love your perspective. I think this summary captures the essence of this drama beautifully.
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dramalover4ever
May 10, 2022 at 10:56 PM
Thank you. It was like finding a thread that unknotted everything.
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PYC
May 11, 2022 at 6:15 AM
@dramalover4ever and @flatwhite Totally love your take of this exquisite drama. There is just so much to love and enjoy with dialogues or in complete silence. I just ‘worship’ it so much that I rewatch almost every episode as I simply can’t get enough of it. Seeing it as reading a poem is a great description of how I feel about MLN.
Liberation is to me the theme here - be it KJ climbing one mountain after another, embarrassing herself yet bursting out her true feeling, or CH finally releasing his bitterness on that insufferable colleague to fulfilling the wish to drive his dream car, and of course MJ asking Gu to ‘worship’ her. I am not a Korean speaker but the pronunciation seems to be to ‘adore’ her 仰慕.
We are seeing the changes of the three siblings over the course of 10 episodes. I have to say those are more positive changes than negative and some growth too.
Lastly, the Yeom household is certainly not lovey Davey but it’s a close family with the care under the surface. Mom is the link but the dad is just like so many traditional dads in his generation working his utmost to provide for the family.
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dramalover4ever
May 14, 2022 at 12:08 AM
Liberation is the key theme.
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17 nna22
May 10, 2022 at 7:29 PM
Mr. Gu turn out become the rich gangster ? yes this is like cliche but, I like it.
Ep 10 really good, the vibes was changed and the progress each character turn out very well.
Mr. Gu become the man who can't exist in "the real world" kekekek
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18 Doppelganger
May 10, 2022 at 8:42 PM
Okay, the show has gone for a more soap opera turn in ep9&10 with the whole gangster/mafia storyline. It lost some of introspective, existentialist flavor that defined the first 8 episodes this week.
Gu and Mi-jeong: I was wary about a romantic relationship between them from the very beginning, and after ep9 and I am explicitly NOT onboard with their romance. I'm more worried about Gu than Mi-jeong. The guy just "got out" of a relationship with a suicidal woman that ended in the worst possible way, and now he's in a relationship with another (passively) suicidal person. The guy needs a therapist, not a girlfriend.
Gi-jeong: I felt bad for Gi-jeong bearing the brunt of her friend's attack. What Gi-jeong said in ep1 about dating single parents was not incorrect. It is not her fault her private conversation with friends was overheard by another party who took affront. I don't think any relationship with her and Tae-hoon will end well given how enmeshed he is with his sisters and his daughter. It's too much family baggage to take on and navigate.
Chang-hee: The guy is HILARIOUS. He's such a good egg. I don't think Chang-hee would be as endearing of a character if it weren't for Lee Minki's excellent acting.
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Lixie
May 11, 2022 at 8:40 AM
That mafia plot is so silly kkk. Why can't he be just an ordinary guy who messed up and decided to run away for a while? Why do you think MJ has any kind of suicidal impulse? Gu is the one seeking a potential danger, drinking 4 bottles each day and trying to turn wild dogs into pets kk.
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Doppelganger
May 11, 2022 at 8:53 AM
Mi-jeong is what I consider passively suicidal. She's given a lot of signals to this: musing how she feels like if she lived in a tall building she would just jump off; musing about how she wouldn't care if a storm ended the world; musing about the nail on the floor reminded her of a corpse; and her general apathetic attitude towards life up till now. She's desperate to escape her confines, hence her "worship me" plea.
The mafia background doesn't add anything to the story or character right now. Gu could just be a non-mafia dude who lost his gf and everything about the show would still be the same.
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Lixie
May 11, 2022 at 9:52 AM
I'd say she's depressed, has been for a long time. And what I don't get is why most people seem to think it's only poetic and she's very honest when se seems so far away from starting to deal with her real issues. Not that it isn't poetic, not that she isn't honest about many things, it's just that there is so much more than that.
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19 Bob
May 10, 2022 at 9:07 PM
Normally Netflix gets a bad rap for shoddy subtitles. This series, though, it seems Netflix knows it has something special. I haven't seen anything especially cringeworthy in the subtitling, it seems to my layman's eyes/ears to be pretty solid. Though I do wonder what Viki could have done with them.
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20 loveblossom🌸
May 10, 2022 at 9:57 PM
Even if it was a temporary boost, I was happy for Chang Hee getting that car. It was the first time he experienced joy. He looked so dang peaceful during his ride. It was funny how he prepared himself for it. I had braced myself for his possible letdown.
Jin Woo keeps looking more smitten with Ki Jung. I was ready for their ship (still am), but then I totally forgot about all the annoying office gossip until EP 10. Don't want her to deal with that, ugh. Still, I want them to overcome it if their romance turns out to be real and mutual.
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21 panshel
May 10, 2022 at 11:24 PM
Mob boss Gu is hot. Mi-jung needn't worry about her money-grubbing ex or derisive boss when she's a gangster's wife. I can't wait to hear his underlings call her "hyungsu-nim." He was surprisingly honest with Chang-hee with his matter-of-fact "I just came back from Seoul." He is living with guilt over his ex's death, but he was helping her by telling her to get therapy, not killing her. So Mi-jung did save Gu subconsciously on the train, who is also indebted to Chang-hee since he wouldn't have gotten off if Chang-hee weren't drunk.
It was so satisfying when Chang-hee told off Ah-reum in front of the whole office, and I wish he had said loudly, "I don't want to eat with you!" But his friend was telling the truth about the reason for his hatred, so it was nice that Chang-hee was willing to humble himself and learn how to eat sashimi from hateful Ah-reum.
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jerrykuvira
May 11, 2022 at 1:09 AM
His friends comment didn't humble him, well I thought it did until the Rolls Royce revelation. He hasn't changed, he just wanted to be able to level up to A-reum's wealth and the perfect avenue showed up, voila!
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22 LaurenSophie
May 11, 2022 at 9:47 AM
I, too, was confused by Gu's explanation of what happened to his girlfriend. The story he told seemed to be about him noticing she was suicidal and suggesting she go to therapy. Yet he's so racked with guilt, and her brother blames him for her death, so there must be more there. Or not. I guess he could still feel intense guilt even if he suggested she go to therapy, especially if he said it in a fit of annoyance.
I still enjoy Gu and Mi-jung's relationship--Gu's expressions during Mi-jung's frog monologue cracked me up-- but I'm not sure what the next step should be for them. Sometimes they clearly seem like two people either falling in or already in love; at other times, it seems like they're merely practicing having a certain kind of relationship with each other. At any rate, I assumed the running through the fields thing was a dream, but I guess we'll find out in the next set of episodes.
I enjoyed Chang-hee's tirade against his annoying (and she really is supremely annoying) co-worker, although I agree with his friends that his hatred of her goes beyond the normal irritation or dislike one feels for such a person. I wasn't quite sure what point the show was making about materialism in regards to Change-hee, though. There are definitely times when I struggle a bit to grasp all the themes that are being explored.
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Doppelganger
May 11, 2022 at 10:19 AM
If your close one (relative, friend, lover) dies by suicide, you'll feel overwhelming guilt. You wonder if you said something wrong, if you didn't say enough things, if you missed any signals, if you could've done something, anything more to prevent the outcome. People will start finger-pointing and looking for someone to blame for the tragedy (especially if you're the deceased's partner).
So I don't find anything suspicious about Gu's explanation. He could have omitted stuff, he also could've told the whole story.
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miss h
May 11, 2022 at 11:25 AM
I don't think there is more to the girlfriend committing suicide. From what I understood, he told her the story of people jumping off a cliff and realizing there wasn't much to their problems as a segue to convince her to get therapy. She then jumped off a cliff. I think anyone would be wracked with guilt, believing they said the wrong thing. As for her brother blaming Gu, I think that was mostly because he wanted to get rid of him and partly because Gu showed no emotion afterward.
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LaurenSophie
May 11, 2022 at 11:40 AM
Thanks to both of you--your explanations make perfect sense.
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PYC
May 12, 2022 at 12:37 AM
That’s my take too. Gu did his part by sharing it’s regret way through the road to suicide but that advice didn’t work - and we have no idea as to why she is suicidal. Her brother is obviously a rival in the gang ladder.
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Scottie
May 12, 2022 at 1:52 AM
Yes, I thought that it was not just a little unwise of him to try to save such a fragile person with such a story.
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Scottie
May 12, 2022 at 2:21 AM
The more I think about the dream like scene and the New Year scene, the more I believe that it shows the liberation of Mr. Gu.
He was unhappy both as a club owner and as an alcoholic in hiding and he is now ready to start a new life and this he wants with Mi-jung, because she is running by his side in the dream. He must be deep down an ambition and also capable man, otherwise he would not have been a national athlete and a wealthy club owner. He would not start a future with Mi-jung as a scruffy handy man, although scruffy looks pretty good on him.
But first he needs to wrap up his old ties with the club. In the scene he leaves the club at the stroke of midnight at the start of the new year which is a typical symbol for a new beginning. Poor Chang-hee - the Rolls Royce will soon be out of his reach.
In the dream he is placing his hand on Mi-jung's shoulder, but it does not feel like a protective gesture, it looks more as if he is holding her back. If he leaves, as is suggested, then he is putting his relationship with Mi-jung on hold for now, until he can come back as the person he wants to be for her - not as a jerk (although she might see him as one, if he just leaves her behind).
Well, I might be completely wrong. There are quite a few more episodes to come, anything can happen.
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LaurenSophie
May 12, 2022 at 7:15 AM
I re-watched that part last night and had similar thoughts. He clearly has to return to his old life, at least temporarily, in order to be able to move on. Otherwise, he will continue to be hunted and in hiding for the rest of his existence.
As an aside, I thought it was odd that he was able to just walk into the club unarmed and unprepared for any kind of battle, confront his nemesis, and then simply walk out. I'm no gangster, lol, but if these other gangsters had planned to kill him, then hunted him down in a small town and continued to surveil him, when he walked in like that, wouldn't he be in danger? If there's any meaning there, it would suggest that they need something from him, maybe information or his skills, and that's what he'll have to offer and negotiate with before he can get fully out.
Anyway, when I watched the run with birds scene again, it struck me that although it initially seems to be clearly from Gu's point of view and an expression of his longing for freedom, the end shifts to Mi-jung's reaction to him holding her back. Initially, I did read that motion as him trying to protect her in the way she had protected him from the dogs. But her expression--sad, questioning, and confused--gave me pause. Your explanation that this is Gu imagining and regretting how he's holding her back in her life by being yet another asshole boyfriend in a long line of asshole boyfriends makes much more sense. So then it would also stand to reason that he'd have to leave her and return to his former life in order somehow to do right by her.
He should be honest with her first, though. And kiss her, too, lol.
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Kurama
May 12, 2022 at 7:27 AM
Honestly, I don't think he's a big gansster or part of the mafia, but more in the world of the night and manages night clubs.
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23 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
May 11, 2022 at 2:21 PM
Every time Gu smiles, it feels like I'm seeing Hwang Shi-mok. Precious smiles xD
The last few minutes did confuse me for a bit but then I'm going to assume that both scenes are what Gu said to Mr. Baek. Either he does not come back to the gangster world or he does. Whichever he chooses, I want more smiles and dimples.
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dramalover4ever
May 11, 2022 at 2:49 PM
That's the best explanation of those last scenes. 👏 👏 👏
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neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
May 12, 2022 at 12:23 AM
The editing was a little abrupt but yes, that's me making sense of it.
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Doppelganger
May 11, 2022 at 6:55 PM
Okay, I wasn't sure if I was the only one seeing the resemblance between Son Seokkoo and Cho Seungwoo.
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neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
May 12, 2022 at 12:21 AM
It's the rarity of the smile we're getting xD
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Healer’s
June 8, 2022 at 7:58 AM
Maybe I have weird imagination, but I thought Son Seok-koo at some points looks like Matthew Macfadyen, just more mischievous 😅
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24 beanslover
May 11, 2022 at 4:09 PM
Here are a few things that stood out to me from Episodes 9 - 10:
Dad is really similar to Mi Jeong - lost a lot of money just because they trust the wrong person. His Sink and Shelf business does well but he has to use the money to pay off his friend's debt. Dad and Mi Jeong are fond of Mr. Gu. They don't say much but when they say something, they make an impression on Dr. Gu. I guess Dad approves of Mr. Gu and Mi Joeng's relationship since he gave Mr. Gu the advice that the Sink and Shelf business can make some good money so Mr. Gu can continue on the business instead of going back to his gangster past.
Mr. Gu's grossed expression when Mi Jeong's talking about the frog's being killed and imitating the sounds of them being ran over, Mr. Gu's shy expression with that deep dimple (I didn't even know Son Suk Ku has dimples!) when he picks up Mi Jeong in Seoul, Mr. Gu's content/ smirk smile when he told Mi Jeong that she told her parents that they are dating. I'm falling for Son Suk Ku!!
Kang Hee's deduction that Mr. Gu was/is rich from seeing that Mr. Gu has a bidet is hilarious and relatable. But man, how can he freely come to someone's house to use the restroom before/after work is just so strange to me. I get so embarrassed when I have to use the restroom at my friend's place.
Tae-hoon’s sister is one of those people who made their decision and then blamed on other people when they end up miserable. Argg, I hate those kind of people.
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beanslover
May 11, 2022 at 9:41 PM
After watching Episode 10 again, I found the scene when Mr. Gu told Mi Jeong about his ex gf really powerful. It was the first time he ever opened up his painful path. If you just listen to his words, they sound so cruel by saying how he was bored with a depressive gf and he was the cause of her death but when you actually just look into Mr. Gu’s eyes, you feel so much sadness and guilt. Even though he is the story teller, he told the story as he is the main villain. When he told Mi Jeong that they can stop the “worshipping” if she wishes, maybe his intention was to chase Mi Jeong away but he wishfully hopes that Mi Jeong will still choose to maintain their relationship. The disappointing look on his face when Mi Jeong answered that “when did I ever worship you” and then left was so sad. I think this scene signifies how good of an actor Son Suk Ku is with the tone and microfacial expression to be able to deliver all the feels. I felt that Mr. Gu was so brave to open up his wound to Mi Jeong honestly, from his own perspective, and let Mi Jeong makes her decision.
And I was so glad that Mi Jeong decides to continue and go further after talking to Hyah that Mr. Gu is at least 15 points because he doesn’t lie and put the blame on other.
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PYC
May 12, 2022 at 1:35 AM
What little do they speak but what they say matters. That’s the case of Dad, MJ and Gu. Dad’s mentioning his own financial trouble and sink business being good business is the very sign of his approval of Gu as his worker and also a potential future son in law. I love love SSK’s delivery of his back story to MJ, low key yet so self-loathing full of guilt. It’s a powerful scene that his hurt and regret is palpable. Then our MJ is getting to the stage of not mincing her words - such is the empowerment from her budding relationship with Gu.
I’ve long been under the spell of SSK since his role as the President’s Chief of Staff in Designated Survivor.
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dramalover4ever
May 12, 2022 at 5:53 AM
Oh yes. Designated Survivor.
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beanslover
May 12, 2022 at 11:58 AM
Thanks for the information on DP. I will check out Be Melodramatic next then :)
beanslover
May 12, 2022 at 8:32 AM
I first saw him as David Kim in Suits (his English) but he had a small role there. I want to see DP next
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PYC
May 12, 2022 at 8:39 AM
His role in DP is small and not that appealing. Be Melodramatic is a charismatic turn though only a few episodes.
dramalover4ever
May 12, 2022 at 5:50 AM
Same x1000
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25 Deeja
May 12, 2022 at 12:16 PM
Chang Hee is hilarious. Haha. On the previous episodes, I find it annoying that Chang Hee kept on barging Mr Gu's house. But on another lense, I think that what's break the ice between the. It felt as if Gu-shi is the hyung Chang Hee never had.
The poop scene OMG. And when he saw the Royce's key in the toilet. Haha. I'm glad to see Chang Hee grow to be more positive - not minding about his hate to A Reum, because it's exhausting to feel hatred all your life.
On the other note, I pity Gi Jeoung. She's 40 and have a career, but... well, I'm not in her shoes, so I can't say much. I just hope she'll eventually feel what is happiness, like Chang Hee & Mi Jeoung do.
I'm glad they reveal a bit more of Gu's past, not just a flash of here and there. Looking forward to more Mi Jeoung & Gu, and Chang Hee in between.
Can't wait for tomorrow!!
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Eri
April 15, 2023 at 10:22 PM
I thought Chang hee barging in the house in the middle of the night to use the toilet was hilarious. Did he even wash his hands!? Who uses someone's toilet and then talks about their bowel movements afterwards LOL The look on Gu's face...was pretty much my emotional response to that scene XD
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26 Lonestar Girl
May 12, 2022 at 5:35 PM
I just love Gu. Idk which sibling loves him more; Chang-hee or Mi-Jung.
Tae-hoon is still being bullied, but now he’s bullied by his sister. She needs to get a grip, and he needs to speak up. If she wants to devote her life to raising her niece to the exclusion of all else, that’s her personal choice. She can’t impose that on her brother. I realize the sisters stepped in to help when Tae-hoon’s wife left him, but circumstances change. Life is ever evolving.
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27 StoneJack
May 13, 2022 at 12:27 AM
Episodes 9-10 are really precious, as they open up the worlds of each of the siblings and present them as they are, not as they pretend to.
I want to concentrate on Chang Hee and Mi Jeong and her relationship with Gu and the family's linkage to money and wealth as a hidden motor behind their acts.
1. Chang Hee is a man who is deeply troubled by his lack of money. That kills his image (in his imagination); he believes his girlfriend is leaving him because he lives in the countryside; he confesses he can't even flirt with a girl because he doesn't have a car; yet he is a refreshingly straightforward and hard-working man; he believes in hard work, annoyed at A Reum's shenanigans, because she earns money by using insider information; he doesn't want to invest in bitcoins; he works so he can someday earn promotion. He is a truly great guy, and he believes that all of those troubles can be saved by money and its symbol - Rolls Royce. Once he realizes that his problems are created by his own beliefs, he calms down; he no longer hates A Reum, he is happy to sit near her, and he found a way out of his misery - by riding rich neighbor's car; which is his liberation. After 10 episodes, Chang Hee is a free man now. It doesn't matter he doesn't own Rolls Royce - as a hardworking man, he knows and believes that someday he will earn his own luxury car by working hard; the neighbor's car gives him an important break from his own mind's pressure and shows the glimpse of his own, successful future. By merely showing him and letting him drive the luxury car, Gu saves the man from his psychological pressure.
2. Mi Jeong; the most underrated, sexy, beautiful and also mysterious of all siblings. Only her father knows that she is a precious stone, a jewel on her own; but now Gu knows that as well to extent she scares him. Indeed, Mi has so many secrets, as many as Gu himself perhaps. She always acts decisively but on her own; she doesn't consult anyone but her inner herself, through that dreamy dialogue and imagination; we never see any of Mi's previous boyfriends or friends; and why they were "assholes" in her words; perhaps they actually were not? But why then Mi, knowing that the guys she chose, were assholes, did actually date them?
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StoneJack
May 13, 2022 at 12:28 AM
My theory is that Mi, longing for love and attention, actually did something not everyone can think of- she bought herself love. She essentially paid her ex-bf money (and later paid his debt) to have him around her, we don't know for how long or how far the relationship went; she tried to solve her loneliness by using her checkbook and savings. The ex-bf is an asshole not because he agreed to be around her for money (Mi doesn't see that as something bad) (once he had her money, he tried to escape from her), he is an asshole because he didn't fulfill his part of the contract - stay with her; his debt is a least problem for Mi, which she solves by her own savings.
In this regards, Mi is very different from Chang Hee, who thinks if he had money, he'd be happy; Mi has money but is unhappy and money doesn't solve her problem. Therefore, she is looking this time for non-monetary solution - being adored by someone else for free - alternative is "what else you have to do then merely drinking?". Mi is not attracted to Gu, she sees Gu as a solution for her loneliness. In this regards, even up to Episode 10, Gu is still not her love (which he feels and feels jealous towards ex-bf).
She doesn't need any physical love from Gu, because that's not what is looking for. She just needs an affection and she ran out of money to buy that affection, that's the problem. However, Gu can adore her for mere two bottles per night. The deal is good for Mi; I am just wondering if she will get more than she bargained for, that's a true love, which might be scary for Mi as well. Money or gifts serve as a protection for Mi from real feelings. I wonder what may happen if she founds that she is truly loved? Will she be able to withstand her real feelings towards Gu, to whom she gradually becomes closer?
Mystery of Mi is even further shown by choice of clothing. From Episode 1 to Episode 10, we see her wearing most boring office outfits possible - we don’t see her in jeans, or nice dresses, we don’t see her using expensive makeup or cremes; she is wearing most formless, most uninspiring clothes ever. Will we see her wearing a nice party dress, with proper makeup and hair done? She would look like a real princess or gem, what she is actually. I wonder if Gu saw that from the very beginning?
We see that Gu is attracted to her. First at the train in winter; he is actually woken up by her voice; then he looks at her, while she is calling; and finally he looks at her, when she is passing by with the brother in winter morning. This time, she feels his look and looks at him. That look might be the one, which made Gu to stay at the farm to try to get close to the mysterious beauty he crosses every important time. As an owner of a night club Gu must be accustomed to see all kinds of glamour women. Why does the countryside girl in simple clothing attract Gu’s attention that much, to extent he spends whole winter nearby?? That’s a mystery too.
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StoneJack
May 13, 2022 at 12:37 AM
My simple explanation is that it is not Mi, who is falling in love with Gu; it is Gu, who is falling for the irresistable Mi, who impresses him up to the point he is scared of her power on his feelings. Mi is a real love of Gu, not that the unfortunate depressed girlfriend. Gu loves Mi that much that he is afraid of her getting too close. But he also can't resist the temptation to sit near the mysterious beauty, to talk with her, he even offers her his gangster's efforts to return money from ex; he is the one, who already was worshiping her from distance, which she always knew he does, at least starting from the cold winter morning. That's a love at first sight and she is loved by someone - which then changes her and transforms her.
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28 Rexkids
May 19, 2022 at 8:10 PM
I am confused by the abrupt scenes of them running free and the countdown scene, what are the meaning of these scenes, hope they will explain in later episodes?
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