Dal-li and Gamjatang: Episodes 5-6 Open Thread
by missvictrix
After hitting rock bottom, our heroine summons her inner strength, and is able to rise to the challenges around her, be they financial, familial, or societal. It doesn’t hurt that she has three well-meaning men around her — each one completely different, but each one caring deeply about her wellbeing. What a trifecta.
EPISODES 5-6 WEECAP
Dal-li is beginning to learn of the sacrifices she has to make to keep her family’s gallery up and running. Selling her family home mansion was the first step, and she does it without complaint, but she also does it without giving much thought to where she’ll rest her head.
She can’t sleep in her office — Moo-hak drives her off to a ritzy hotel where she checks in and checks out within a ten-minute span. For the first time I think Dal-li is beginning to learn the value of money.
Instead of reaching out to the people around her (*ahem*, like the awesome brother figure cop who adores her), she heads to a seedy motel, and meets with some awful violence. In her innocence, Dal-li is walking around with a wad of cash stuffed into a white envelope — it’s to pay her employees the following day. Anyone with a small amount of situational awareness can tell she’s gotten herself in a pickle, but I don’t know I quite expected the violent attack that we got.
Dal-li is robbed, beaten, and utterly distraught. To make her only more precious and in need of a bear hug, we follow her around that night after the incident while she’s in her pajamas and sporting some terrible bruises.
The first one to show up to her aid is Won-tak, who explodes at her for not telling him about the desperate straits she was in, and takes her to his apartment to stay for a while. There is something so warm and wonderful about Won-tak. Is it just Hwang Hee’s energy, or is it this role? Either way, amongst the trifecta of men around Dal-li, Won-tak is the one that she’s the most open with. He’s also the most real and emotional, when we contrast him to Tae-jin’s austere smexiness and Moo-hak’s pomp and attitude. (But I find I love all of them, which is what’s making this so fun.)
Throughout this week’s episodes, there were several times you could feel a plot point coming from a mile away… and then spent the episode(s) waiting for it to actually come to fruition. The first was Da-li staying with Won-tak. It was written in the stars ever since the premiere week, and I’ve been waiting for it to happen. (Next up is for Moo-hak to realize who is crashing in his upstairs apartment!)
The second plot point was waiting for Moo-hak to realize the violent attack that Dal-li had experienced — and this one took the entire episode to tease out. Still, I get why they waited so long — there was something so intimate about the moment where Moo-hak begins to see through Dal-li’s cover, and reaches out to softly pull down her huge black sunglasses.
This was a lovely moment in and of itself, but I also think it was a turning point for Moo-hak himself. We knew he was attracted to Dal-li from the moment they met, but I think it was in this moment that he realized how much her safety and wellbeing meant to him.
Like the bombastic hero he is, he hides his feelings while claiming that the money he’s owed is what he cares about… but we also see him struggling with his emotions. He can’t seem to stop thinking about her, whether that’s turning from aggressor to protector, or texting her late at night about sashimi.
There’s a third man in our trifecta, though, and that’s Tae-jin, who’s slowly taking on a bigger role in Dal-li’s life. Interestingly, he also shares a similar intimate moment with her, pulling down her sunglasses to expose her bruised face, and offering to do whatever she wants to resolve the situation. Tae-jin gives off the feeling of being able to exert power, and at the same time relinquish (or yield it) at Dal-li’s command, and that’s kind of a sexy angle to play with, especially for a character that smolders with hidden desire.
Despite loving our OTP, the scenes that Dal-li and Tae-jin share are always quite charged — it’s masterful in fact — we can feel the history behind them, and the tension that’s between them in the present. (I think a lot of this is just the chemistry between Park Kyu-young and Kwon Yul; it has a very different tenor than her chemistry with Kim Min-jae.)
And so, with so much of this Triple Crown of heroes front and center in this week’s episodes, I’m almost jonesing for three different dramas. I love Dal-li’s story and relationship with each of them, and I’d like to see an entire story for each of them.
But lest it sound like we spend more time on our heroes than our heroine, this week was very much about Dal-li and watching her pick herself up. There’s more to face than just debt, and I think recent events proved to her that her cousin is No Good. Dal-li might be naive, but that intersects in interesting ways with her cleverness. Her press event after the fake article is the prime example of this: she was able to take a PR disaster and turn it in her favor.
As to the nefarious goings-on in the background, Dal-li’s not-so-hidden enemy (her cousin) shares ties to Moo-hak’s kinda-hidden enemy (stepbrother). I gave up on the cousin, but I was hoping for Moo-hak’s hyung to have a little more decency. However, he’s jumping in a web of corruption with our ever-corrupt Assemblyman archetype, so before long, I expect Dal-li and Moo-hak to be even more united against their common enemy.
Dal-li certainly has an uphill battle ahead, but now that she knows what’s at stake and is learning what it takes to win, I think she’ll be more than able. And while I don’t think she necessarily needs our three heroes to succeed, they sure add a fun element to the story, by both complicating it and coloring it.
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1 Waadmay
October 9, 2021 at 3:21 PM
That was fun, Short and lovely.
I'm waiting for roommate hijinks.
Please make this happen , I need to see moo hak and won tak as roommates 😂
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OldLawyer
October 9, 2021 at 9:51 PM
Yes, I can see this coming to- and the bromance that goes with it. Lest you think that we have a third love interest I do not think we do- Won-tak sees Dali as his sister. But Moo-hak will not understand that, will misread the situation and bingo, bango, whango- we have room-mates.
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Waadmay
October 9, 2021 at 10:04 PM
They're both loud , it's gonna be fun
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2 Beverly
October 9, 2021 at 4:18 PM
This is one of those dramas that I wish were already finished so that I could binge it, but I also like having a drama that I look forward to every week.
I can not wait until Moo-Hak finds out that Dali is upstairs. I want Dali to continue staying with her brother because I really want them to develop that familial relationship.
I really like how Dali pulled herself up. Yes she listened to what was said and used the resources that were offered, but she came up with and implemented that plan.
I hate the assault and the now resultant trauma that Dali has experienced. The story could of moved to the same place without it.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 6:47 AM
I totally agree with you about the assault and her trauma. Worse things could have happened, and I also think that the show doesn't really need the assault incident.
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3 latebloomer
October 9, 2021 at 4:21 PM
Dal-li is struggling with being alone, but Moo-hak is really more alone. His family doesn't understand him and is not on his side. His girl pal doesn't want him but doesn't want anyone else to have him. Even his secretary is not on the same wavelength.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 6:48 AM
I always feel for Moo-hak every time he has to yield to his step-brother. It seems to me like he wants to "belongs" there. It pisses me off so much that the step-brother is up to no good.
*throws the picture of the duck the step-brother's way*
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4 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
October 9, 2021 at 4:34 PM
I admit I nearly gave up on the drama during episode 5. I felt like it had diverged sharply from the classic Hepburn-esque romcom we got in the first week and tbh I was quite disappointed.
But episode 6 really pulled it back together and so I'm still here.
Dali is all class.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 6:49 AM
I was so afraid they would make Darli a damsel in distress waiting for a knight in a shining armor. So when she turned the press situation around for her I was so relieved. My girl is back!
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Alluvial_Fan
October 10, 2021 at 11:31 AM
Audrey or Katherine?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
October 10, 2021 at 11:39 AM
Audrey!
Although...
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Alluvial_Fan
October 10, 2021 at 5:27 PM
Not to dis Audrey, whom I love. Hoping to convince you otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdYNtGEhb2Y
The Hepburn who, along with Aretha Franklin, taught me how to be a feisty female.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
October 10, 2021 at 5:32 PM
Oh no shade on Katherine, who was hands down one impressive person.
I mean that this show has very deliberately based the character of Dali on Audrey Hepburn and the first two episodes were very obviously inspired by her romcoms.
They even started the show in Amsterdam, as a deliberate reference to her. And they've given her a privileged, almost noble, background while suddenly impoverishing her.
This is almost a loving homage to the actor.
OLakes
October 11, 2021 at 8:09 AM
Agree - ep 5 felt like it was spinning its wheels to me and got me worried, but ep 6 really got it back on track. I'm hopeful again that this will continue being a colorful ride.
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Kwan
November 21, 2021 at 8:44 PM
I also wondered about Dali after watching the first five episodes. She seemed to be the Queen Sissy of Sissy Land, but episode six finally got her acting like she had some courage. Otherwise she was just Eeyore at a Museum.
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5 anj0920
October 9, 2021 at 6:06 PM
The amount of shouting in this drama made me think I'm watching Penthouse female characters in male bodies. i almost gave up. Wish they would tone down the shouting. Even though it looks like a contrast to Dal Li's quiet strength. But hope they tone it down.
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6 tiredys
October 9, 2021 at 6:20 PM
Da-li is such a great character and a real breath of fresh air. Park Gyu-young is so great here. Moo-hak is both cinnimon roll and blustering loudmouth and its awesome (other than the yelling that scares people). I also love Mi-ra and Won-tak.
In the opposite vein, I seem to intensely dislike the array of antagonists and can't seem to find interest in whatever they're scheming.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 6:51 AM
The antagonists here are so cartoonish. I don't know how to feel about them, but I mainly stay for Darli and perhaps all the possible suitors so everything is good.
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tiredys
October 11, 2021 at 11:21 AM
It would have been interesting to see if they had gone darker instead of cartoony but at the same time we don't really need YAMS thriller plot 2.0. Still, I wish the step-brother and cousin weren't so similar. (I'm secretly for a badass step-brother that could have gone head-on against Tae-jin in the swoon department... but instead we got weasel-face.)
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7 immawish
October 9, 2021 at 6:33 PM
Dali gets more and more fun every week!! I LOVE Park Gyuyoung here and her chemistry with all the three men are so awesome.
Idk ever since she managed to not get overshadowed by Seo Yeji in it's okay not to be okay (which i believe a hard thing to do bcs Seo Yeji was so fantastic in that)
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8 Jayne❤
October 9, 2021 at 6:58 PM
I really like Dalli's character.
I don't remember I've seen something like this one in Kdrama. It's always between a cheerful candy, heartless heiress, sickoflife girl or spoiled brat.
Dalli is such a fresh breeze.
Her quiet elegance, dignity, charm and brain, even her baffleness is beautiful.
She's rich but with excellent upbringing.
The only thing I don't like in this drama, it has too many evils. Moohak's family, Dalli's cousin, even the gallery staffs are frustrating. They seem to think Dalli is the bad one here.
And can I slap the mouth of that intern? She's the worst. She did bad things with the cousin but blame her bad fate to Dalli.
I really want to see Moohak being a business genius. He can grow a homely gamjatang into billions worth of money, now what can he do to save a crumbling old art gallery?
In contrast of loud Moohak, Taejin is a quiet one. He quietly supports Dalli and I can't wait to find out what's the story between him and Dalli.
Kwon Yul is smexy personified.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 6:53 AM
I didn't know she was an intern, but yes to the slap. I don't want to be violent but that girl deserves some punishment.
And yes to the scenes shared by Darli and Tae-jin. That undercurrent intense feeling is gold.
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9 Kafiyah Bello
October 9, 2021 at 8:22 PM
Dali is probably one of my favorite romcom heroines ever, I just love her to pieces. As for the men around her, they don't seem problematic yet and they all have their strengths. I adore Woo Tak, and if it weren't for the already silly triangle I would root for him because he is delightful. As for Tae-Jin, he is interesting because he seems to genuinely want to try from scratch, but he knows he hurt her terribly. I am glad Da Li is using him for what she wants and that he is letting her. As for our cocky prince if he would just Stop yelling I would love him too. Also they really do telegraph everything in this drama, the art-installation was an obvious one. However, I do like that they flipped the co-habitation trope on it's side. She still lives with him, but not with him. ❤️❤️
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10 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
October 9, 2021 at 9:14 PM
I could do less shouting but that scene in the header photo, KMJ's trembling voice and eyes, *clap clap clap* well done!
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11 RK123
October 9, 2021 at 10:20 PM
I was already enjoying Dali and Gamjatang, but Episode 6 really upped my interest in this drama. Moo-hak and Dali have fantastic chemistry, and I like that--under their individual armor--they're both more alike than different.
Also, I absolutely love Dali's face and how incredibly expressive her eyes are.
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12 OldLawyer
October 9, 2021 at 10:29 PM
DALI AND GAMJATANG is wonderful. We do NOT have a third love interest in Won-tak- who sees Dali as his sister but we do have Tae-jin as a true second lead- but in the end one whose family will not permit him to be with Dali even now, just as they would not five years ago. It is great that Tae-jin still cares deeply about her but in the end his personal growth is likely to be to learn to let her go and to move on.
Misvictrix correctly noted that in these episodes we see Dali finally learning the value of money. She has also been told, not just by Moo-hak but reinforced by others, the value of making money. This is not important just to her survival but also for her coming to respect Moo-hak in the future- to understand that as uneducated as he is in so many things what he does know and understand is in fact valuable and even vital.
Dali has not just learned the value of money but that money is a tool- That is why she has Tae-jin buy her those things for her press conference, including a dress she otherwise would never have worn in a million years- because these are props for her press conference where she turns her PR disaster into a great marketing device- and for the first time turns the tables on her tormentors.
Dali has also grown enough to ask from help from others- which will allow our trio of heroes to be there for her so that she can triumph in the end. She has also absorbed enough of Moo-hak’s skepticism to finally see her cousin for the scum that he is. But it is Moo-hak who has perceived that the events they have experienced are literally being orchestrated by someone behind the scenes- and he was not fooled by his family’s play-acting as they try to conceal his step-brother’s scheme.
At the same time hearing Moo-hak telling her that money is not as important as her wellbeing shows us that he is indeed in love with her- and learning some new things himself.
The scene which ended episode six was wonderful as she gives Moo-hak a back-hug- in a successful attempt to keep him from killing the thug who had hurt and robbed her. Back hugs are a staple of Asian rom-coms but this one was fabulously different and yet completely true to our story.
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13 emsel
October 9, 2021 at 11:32 PM
Episode 5 was so frustrating that I was so close to dropping it, but episode 6 put a full stop to that thought.
Dali is protrayed as a woman of refinement and intellect from the beginning, so even if she was under the protective wings of her dad, she should have basic idea of financial situations. Atleast her upbringing should have taught her about common life lessons like not to show an entire wad of cash in front of a stranger, when you are alone, especially in the night. That wasn't naive of Dali, just plain stupid.
Dali's employee was right when she rebuked Dali for buying a pair of shoes that only had three sets in the entire world,when Dali was already in loads of debt. I know Dali din't pay for it, but she should have looked into how much money they have for routine operations of gallery, including the employees' salaries, security payments etc., when she took her position as director. Instead of planning the initial steps, she right away went with the preparations for the exhibit, hoping it would save them from the downfall.
Dali was shown to be close with Won Tak at the funeral, so shouldn't she have crashed in on his home instead of staying at a motel? I get she din't want to admit she was down on money and needed help, but she had no qualms in asking for money to run the gallery.
The above points just made me so annoyed with the drama in episode 5 along with Dali's infuritating employees who are insensitive and badmouth Dali at every given chance. I also hate Dali's cousin and Moo Hak's step brother. Sly schemers!!!
I'm so glad that the above statements were turned head on in episode 6. This is the Dali that we all want. Soft yet strong❤ Kim Min Jae is really a discovery for me in this drama, because he is killing it with all the subtle expressions. I also like the actor playing Tae Jin, good at playing the desperate yet restraining role.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 7:03 AM
You are absolutely right in all your points! Yes, I think she was "naive" in the sense that before these incidents, the world seems to revolve around her. She had been able to live the life by only thinking of herself and her father. I think that was why she acted so "stupid" and "inconsiderate" in many circumstances. I am glad that instead of being angry when the world didn't turn out to be the one she thought she knew. With every experience no matter how hard it is, it seems like the girl is equipped in learning and adapting herself. She is indeed a good learner, and I'm sure she will make us proud even more when she has learnt more things by the help of people around her.
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emsel
October 10, 2021 at 9:31 AM
Agree @mmmmm she learns and adapts quickly. That's why I absolutely loved the way she tackled the rumour in episode 6.
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Over-Dramaddictally
October 10, 2021 at 10:01 AM
such a good point that she is a 'good learner'. MH was making fun of the fact that all she has done in her life is 'study' or learn. But here we are seeing not only that she learns fast, but how her learning applies to the 'real world'.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 11:55 AM
Yes to this!
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14 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 9, 2021 at 11:35 PM
I kind of want that stupid hideous yellow marshmallow dress back. And the fascinators. Is that weird? Love the Two Face suit though.
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Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 4:25 AM
I see those kind of whimsical clothes as symbolic of her rich carefree daddies girl past. It’s chic dresses and designer business suits from here on out.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 10, 2021 at 2:19 PM
But that's. Boring. Why not. Whimsical business suits.
I do understand this take, and it does make some thematic sense, however I'm not convinced it's entirely needed and I just miss the flamboyancy, and the weirdness. You can be flamboyant *and* chic, they're not mutually exclusive. You can be a classy business woman and wear a fascinator, it doesn't have to be one or the other.
And it doesn't have to be representative of only her past, it can be part of her present and/or future confidence also. E.g. the Two Face Suit. (A mourning period however is completely understandable, I'm ok with that.)
Maybe they'll bring more if it back in later, I don't know, but right now, combined with other stylistic shifts from Amsterdam, it's too reminisce to me of kdramas chickening out of a style choice (be it in direction or costume or what have you) after a couple of episodes (or the half way mark), and completely neutralising things.
I don't hate her current clothes, a lot of them are stunning, I just want the show to be bolder the whole way through.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 10, 2021 at 2:29 PM
I’m willing to be on board with it if this is a mourning and low confidence period for Dali (which it is) *only*, and as the show progresses, her outfits change to match her confidence levels and her personality again; a la the two-face suit.
But I am still concerned the show won’t do that, and I refuse to believe that toned down business suits and dresses and a continued neutral palette is the best styling decision for the entire rest of the show.
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Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 2:38 PM
I get you. She wears a butt ton of white now have you noticed? Wonder about that.
I think her best outfits were the Blue lace dress ,the Press con suit and esp.the polka dot ensemble which is hecka difficult to pull of without looking like Minnie Mouse or costumey.
The only outfit I did not like was the dusty rose skirt and top Did not like the color or style on her.
She has that “ladies who lunch” 1950’s socialite vibe to her fashion which is totally appropriate for her.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 10, 2021 at 3:59 PM
I have noticed yes. I have also noticed that Moo Hak's suits are somewhat toned down from the first two episodes too, and of all people to have a reason to have a style change, it is not he pfft.
And where are the crocs!
Agree on those best outfits. ♥
15 Sifimoyo
October 9, 2021 at 11:59 PM
Absolutely love this drama - it is the only one I look forward to every week, and check the length of the episode at the end because it always ends too soon, and I feel I've been cheated! All the men are adorable and Dali is such an interesting and different character from the usual female lead.
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16 Sifimoyo
October 10, 2021 at 12:02 AM
And another thing - the side-characters are all so well-written and so well-acted. I love Moo Oak's assistant, she really cracks me up, and his father the pork-stew millionaire - I feel he will fall under Dali's spell very quickly. And the dreadful cousin and nasty step-brother and mother, they all are brilliantly portrayed.
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17 kimchiturka
October 10, 2021 at 12:07 AM
This week was a bit boring to me. Way too much screen time for yawn-inducing "bad guys" (I mean, construction mafia, really? In this series?) That being said, Hwang Hee (the fox turned cop) is turning into something that I want to take home and keep him on my bed instead of a teddy bear.
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bong-soo
October 10, 2021 at 8:51 AM
Mark my words. One alliance’s are formed Mi-ri will take a shine to Won-tak.
O/T. RUN ON fans remember how the ‘odd couple’ got together in that drama by the end?
I think something like that will happen here.
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18 Kurama
October 10, 2021 at 12:23 AM
I love everything from Dali! She's really interesting. She doesn't want to bother people around her but I was happy she accepted Won-Tak's help. It's ok to to count on others from time to time.
Won-Tak is so cute and nice. The actor is good for this role, he reminded me his role in The Tale of a Gumiho.
I didn't like the other male leads. Moo-Tak is worried for her but the way he acts is really bad. They care more about their feelings for her than herself and what she needs. Both touched her when she clearly didn't want. She was assaulted, give her space! I didn't find romantic or cute Moo-Tak's words about she should be careful because she's his debitor...
Tae-Jin should start by apologize to her, explain why he did it and then maybe thinking to date her. But acting like nothing happened is stupid. She was clearly hurt by him, she left Korea...
Moo-Tak should really stop acting like a loan shark. The fact the museum has a debt doesn't give the right to act like he wants in the museum. For someone who always talks about work, he never works! He always is with Dali or in his office talking about Dali, or with his father. But he doesn't really see him working for his compagny.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM
Your comment made me laugh a few times! This is especially true during the "acting like a loan shark" part.
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19 Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 2:55 AM
I feel Da Li would be happiest being a philanthropist or researcher or even buyer instead of doing the business money schmoozing end.
I bet MK is going to find his restaurant bag and then be over the moon when he discovers she loves his food :)
From the highlight reel we see her doing dishes in his? Apartment so I feel he will get polish and learn to appreciate her work and passion more and she in turn will learn how to live like a normal woman not a princess in an ivory tower. tit for tat.
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20 javinne
October 10, 2021 at 6:01 AM
I am dropping at ep 5, angry and frustrated, but some of you have pointed out, epand 6 was better....
Hum, we'll see...
I don't think I will watch though, but I want to know when will she give him watch. 😅😅😅😅😅
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21 PYC
October 10, 2021 at 6:30 AM
This is my happy bill at the moment. Dali and the trifecta- what’s not to love!
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22 mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 7:20 AM
Darli and Darli is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for coming right here at this moment.
I laughed a few times reading @missvictrix's comment. I agree with almost all her points. But I feel obliged to point out that it's "sushi" not "sashimi" that they are talking about. 😂 I laughed again reading that all those scenes were there to make us feel like giving her a gigantic bear hug.
I love reading Bean's comments because your comments made me see the show in different lights. I am not a spendthrift but I also have never cared too much about money. Reading @oldawyer's comment made me realize how important money is. I feel like I can learn side-by-side with Darli whose every act shouts class and brain.
For me, Won Tak is someone I'll probably stay away from. He is so loud, and is quite aggressive. I know he cares deeply for Darli, but less aggressive acts would be appreciated. For Moo-hak, I think he has many things to learn from her as much as there are for her to learn from him. Both of them can grow up together by learning the strengths of the other. I think that they will make a good pair.
While acknowledging how the OTP can complement one another, I feel just as missvictrix said -the scenes of Darli with Tae-jin are always charged. They have that undeniable history, and he still feels so much for her. Just as some Beanie has commented, he can't just act like nothing has happened and continue to pursue her. It doesn't work that way. If he wants to come clean with everything, perhaps start by telling her the real reason why he left her in the first place? Despite all this, I look forward to their scenes together as I think this might be one of my catnips.
And yes, the girl is all class. I would have liked to have more people genuinely on her side. I thought some of the museum employees would be on her side, but it happened not the be the case: all of them care about themselves. The young woman who always talks down on Darli is the worst; she should be dismissed or fired just from her rude behavior towards her boss -in this case, Darli.
It's a great thing that this shows deals with art. Sometimes, when something doesn't really make sense in the story, I can forgive it quite easily because I don't take the story too seriously. Perhaps I am watching it as an art piece itself.
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23 Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 7:51 AM
For brain candy I like Yumi and I enjoy some Cha Cha Cha but I love Dali!
It’s like in old school rom com, the kind that made K dramas and well…it makes me happy!
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24 bong-soo
October 10, 2021 at 9:29 AM
A few random D&G thoughts.
Moo-hak, though he and his family have acquired wealth presumably through hard work, from growing up with street smarts and savvy, I think will ultimately relate better with Won-tak (than Tae-Jin) after all the testosterone cools down. I see a potential bromance there.
The difference between Moo-hak/Won-tak and Tae-jin was beautifully shown in how they related differently to the thug who assaulted Dali.
Tae-jin’s approach would have been to make a call and the thug would have wound up sleeping with the fishes. I don’t doubt (neither did Dali I think) that he would have a second thought about making that happen.
Moo-hak (I loved that flying kick) and Won-tak’s approach on the other hand is to punch the thug in the mouth (for starters.)
(O/T going way out on a limb. Without any scientific study but based on 5 years of watching kdramas I have come to a conclusion which of course may or not be accurate. The conclusion is that SK is in many ways a ‘macho’ society. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that it is still technically at war with NK. Perhaps it is mandatory military service. Perhaps it is the historical result of neo-Confucianism. I don’t know.
So the loudness, grabbing of wrists etc I think is a sort of stereotypical depiction of men.
Also, If you want to talk about yelling, perhaps you have seen or can check out CHICAGO TYPEWRITER (2017) (Viki US). One of my favorites but it did not start of that way. After the yelling stopped after 4 or 5 episodes it settled in to become one of my favorites. Alas the ratings were poor. (Average nationwide Nielsen rating of 2.240%.)
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Kelly-k
October 11, 2021 at 7:17 AM
The fact that Tae Jin choose violence in a completely different way but violence non the less made me fall in love in that scene...
I love the fact that no one for a second thought he was joking not even darli which makes me want to know more about thier past relationship...
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25 ar_arguably romantic
October 10, 2021 at 10:52 AM
Anticipating the moment when Moo-hak takes a look at the electricity and water usage doubling or even tripling in Won-tak's unit. He's pretty lucky his tenant was a cop who stays out a lot doing stakeouts. Less wear and tear on the apartment.
The scene of Dali giving the press the smackdown and the cringefest of Moo-hak throwing away the junk art were highlights. I could see his point about the art installation, but I disliked how he did not realize the situation he had put the museum in.
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Beverly
October 10, 2021 at 11:12 AM
Definitely there will be some jealousy when Moo-hak finds out that Dali is living with Won-tak, but I wonder if he will worry about her electricity and water like he does others. This is going to be fun.
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Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 12:45 PM
He will use that and anything else he can think of as an excuse to be over bros constantly:)
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26 Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 11:39 AM
While he is crass and uneducated Moo Hak is not an idiot or stupid and it’s starting to get a little old with all everyone including shady trifling step mom and super extra extra bubble head girl putting him down. I want him to start showing his savvy soon.
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 12:00 PM
I always feel sorry for MH every time he is with his step-brother. He seems to genuinely want to be his brother, but the dude is trash.
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Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 12:13 PM
He has good heart and feels deeply( almost wrote derply…) for those he cares for. It’s going to hurt him to the core when he finds out his family is real conniving trash
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mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 12:26 PM
Yes to the first portion of your reply! For me, personally, he won’t be hurt that much by the conniving stepmom and stepbrother. I think with Darli on his side, or no one on his side, his savvy will be at its peak whenever the money is involved. If he knows that they are taking away “his money”, I will be expecting a very hilarious scene of him “taking care of” the people he once though was family. He might begin by throwing out that duck painting, calling that “gangster” and exact his revenge. 😂 I don’t think his father is bad though; he is just too into the conniving wife. *throws a gamjatang at her face*
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Victorian23
October 10, 2021 at 12:44 PM
It’s going to be interesting to say the least when Da Li meets his family. Go much you wanna bet The mom gonna act like a damn fool trying to how how “classy” she is ;)
mmmmm
October 10, 2021 at 12:53 PM
That will be fun! 🤣
27 Cloggie
October 11, 2021 at 5:46 AM
I've finally caught up and have nothing much to add to what everybody else has already said apart from:
I'm really shipping Tae-jin and the Assemblyman's daughter. They would make a great couple. The way she charged into his office, to make sure he keeps going after Da-li so she can have Moo-hak will (surely?) backfire in true rom-com style!
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mmmmm
October 11, 2021 at 6:01 AM
Yes, I think so, too! These two are more alike than they seem like! They are strong-willed, and have great determination to go after what they want regardless of reasons. The two seem to complement each other well, and surely share the similar background. I think the SML's parents won't disapprove of her, too, and I don't think she will suffer from them either.
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28 beanslover
October 11, 2021 at 11:05 AM
Despite my love for Kim Min Jae since Do You Like Brahms days, I am more interested in Dali's journey from being the innocent, naïve, carefree, high-class socialist to an intelligent, clever, strong, and independent woman who rises above the crumbled rich world that she was born and grew up in.
I cringed at the scenes where she keeps showing the large white envelop filled with cash in front of other people but she called herself stupid in front of Won Tak after he took her home from the hospital so I was less annoyed as she learns quick.
The scenes that got me most emotional is the disappointed, annoyed, upset, betrayed, but worried looks on Won Tak face when he saw Dali suffered but didn't ask him for help. Hwang Hee did a great job portrayed these emotions. I am hoping to see more brother-sister relationship rather than hidden love triangle between Dali and Won Tak.
Every time I see Seo Jung-Yeon (Moo Hak's step mom), I just find it comical that she is a villain in this drama since I always see her as a protagonist from the shows I saw her Descendent of the Sun, Run-On, and especially Do You Like Brahms (Cha Young-In and Park Joon-Young reunion).
Romance-wise, I'm rooting for more Tae-Jin and Chak Hee encounters!!
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Victorian23
October 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM
Yes! Chak Hee with her brazenness and manic energy can potentially bring out a more spontaneous dare I say more fun side of him which Dali for all her wonderful qualities probably can’t.
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29 Victorian23
October 11, 2021 at 11:37 AM
I thought in the beginning the second OTP would be with Chak Hee and Won Tak but seeing as they haven’t even met yet it’s probably Tae Jin and her.
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mmmmm
October 11, 2021 at 12:46 PM
Do you think Won Tak will be paired with the young woman in the gallery staff who despises Darli? They also share similar background.
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Victorian23
October 11, 2021 at 1:13 PM
Hmm. Never thought of that. Could be! I do think though she will be forgiven when they find out how she was being used and blackmailed by The evil cousin
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30 Emmy
October 13, 2021 at 2:33 AM
Binged this drama over a couple of days with the liberal use of the fast forward button. I adore Dali! I have only ever seen Park Kyu-young as the nurse with a crush on Kim Soo-hyun in "It's ok to not be ok", but now I'm a huge fan. I love her interpretation of Da-li and I can't remember the last time I saw such a regal and composed heroine in dramaland.
Gamjatang's huge crush is adorable, but I wish Kim Min-jae would stop shouting. I know he's supposed to be a boisterous character... but he doesn't have to shout out his lines every time he's aggravated.
While I'm all for the OTP, Tae-jin and Dali's scenes simply smoulder and I hope the drama spends a little more time on their angsty back story.
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Victorian23
October 13, 2021 at 2:51 AM
Right? Even her obligatory drunk scene was sweetly adorably composed instead of embarrassing and gross. No piggy back rides or puking for our Princess!
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