Flower of Evil: Episode 5
by LollyPip
Our anti-hero finally gets himself into a situation he can’t control, and time is against them as his wife does everything she can to save him. The more she learns about his current troubles, the more she realizes that she doesn’t know her husband as well as she thought.
EPISODE 5 RECAP
Winter, 2006
While working at her mother’s store, Ji-won perks up when Hee-sung comes in to buy a couple of beers. The power goes out, and Hee-sung silently uses his lighter to light a candle. He’s about to leave when Ji-won says that a nearby store was robbed the last time there was a blackout, but he just stares blankly.
Ji-won locks the doors, but she notices that Hee-sung is still outside, keeping watch. Awww. It starts to snow, but he doesn’t leave until the power returns.
Two years later, Ji-won complains that Hee-sung hit on her first so she confessed, and now he’s playing hard to get. She asks why he calls her and keeps tabs on her, and he says it’s because her mom seeks him out every time Ji-won stays out late.
Ji-won pouts for a piggyback ride home, and when Hee-sung doesn’t respond, she calls him “ajusshi” and tells him not to talk to strangers, hee. He turns to go, but she calls after him, “But you like me. I know it. I can see it. It’s obvious.” Hee-sung asks almost angrily what she thinks she knows about him and almost threatens to tell her what kind of person he really is.
In the present, Hee-sung is still in his hotel room when Kyung-choon pulls up in his taxi. He approaches, and Kyung-choon tells him to get in. He tells Hee-sung that he’s been wanting to meet him, and when Hee-sung asks what he wants, his answer is cryptic, “Jung Mi-sook.”
Hee-sung says he doesn’t know Kyung-choon or Mi-sook, and Kyung-choon sarcastically laments that Nam Soon-kil died for nothing. Hee-sung answers a call from Moo-jin, who just learned that Jung Mi-sook was Do Min-seok’s assumed victim who was never found.
Kyung-choon laughs that Hee-sung is on the run for murder yet has a wife and child, waving around the picture of Hee-sung and a pregnant Ji-won. Hee-sung tears up the picture and snarls that he had nothing to do with Do Min-seok’s murders. He does offer Kyung-choon compensation, put Kyung-choon pulls out a rag and clamps it over Hee-sung’s face.
Hee-sung is able to stab Kyung-choon in the leg with the shard of glass he rigged, allowing him to escape the taxi. The drug that was on the rag makes him woozy, but he manages to crawl to a barrel that’s got some burning coals inside, and he tosses in the torn-up photo.
The two men fight, and Kyung-choon grabs Hee-sung and puts the rag over his face again until he passes out. He drags Hee-sung back to his taxi, unaware that the hotel manager is watching from her office.
Meanwhile, Ji-won is shown a watch that was found in the warehouse where she fought Do Hyun-soo. She recognizes the engraved watch band that she gave to Hee-sung for his birthday. Ji-won fibs to the cop that the watch is hers, and as he’s leaving, she hears a call-in of a taxi driver kidnapping a man.
Woo-chul gets yelled at by Chief Oh for letting a criminal wiretap the police, but he says that what’s important now is catching Kyung-choon. Chief Oh does a flying leap at Jae-seob for being the one who got fooled, then grabs Jae-seob by the hair. Jae-seob grabs him back, and soon all the detectives are in a full-on brawl, hee.
Woo-chul finally bellows at them to stop and says they have to catch Kyung-choon tonight, because this will be all over the news tomorrow. He’s requested the taxi’s log and has a team looking into Kyung-choon’s personal affairs, and Chief Oh threatens to shave all their heads (starting with Jae-seob) if Kyung-choon isn’t caught tonight.
On their way to check out the kidnapping report, Ji-won and Ho-joon call in to Woo-chul, who tells them that they’re about to trace Kyung-choon’s taxi’s location. Ho-joon asks about the watch since Ji-won said it was hers, so she quickly makes up a story about having it in her pocket because the band needed repair.
When Ho-joon keeps asking questions, Ji-won says it’s her husband’s watch, but he points out that she said it was hers. Ji-won snaps at him for focusing on unimportant details, then really bites his head off when he starts to say something else. Ha, the poor kid stammers that he was just going to tell her to buckle her seatbelt.
While getting his head wound treated, Moo-jin mentions Jung Mi-sook, and the Yeoungju doctor recognizes the name. He’s surprised that a man who dug all over the village looking for his wife would kill a person, and he tells Moo-jin that the cops need to find Do Hyun-soo quickly, so that they can find Kyung-choon’s wife’s body.
Moo-jin protests that it’s only an assumption that Hyun-soo helped his father with the murders, especially since the cops determined that Do Min-seok was the only killer. He tells the doctor that you can’t punish someone for crimes their family members committed, and the doctor starts to confide something, but instead he just sighs that Moo-jin is frustrating.
Ji-won and Ho-joon show the hotel manager Kyung-choon’s photo and she confirms that he’s the taxi driver she saw kidnapping a man. Ho-joon steps away to call in the info, and Ji-won asks the manager some questions about the victim but gets nowhere. Then she hears a familiar ringtone, and finds Hee-sung’s phone (with Eun-ha as his screensaver) on the ground nearby.
She tells Ho-joon that she doesn’t understand it, but that she thinks her husband is the kidnapping victim. She brings up a picture of Hee-sung and the manager confirms that it was him. Jae-seob calls Ho-joon again, and Ji-won grabs the phone to ask where Kyung-choon’s taxi is located now.
They jump in their police car and Ji-won peels out to follow the signal of Kyung-choon’s taxi. Kyung-choon doesn’t seem to be in a hurry as he drives with Hee-sung unconscious in his trunk, so Ji-won soon catches up to him. Kyung-choon tosses his black box out of the window, which lands on Ji-won’s windshield and smashes it, causing her to lose control and slam into a roadside stand.
Moo-jin whines at the doctor to say what he was going to say, but the doctor insists on taking his supplements first, ha. Just as he’s about to say whatever it is, they’re interrupted by a Yeoungju detective who wants to talk to Moo-jin about the break-in at Bok-ja’s house. ARGH!
The doctor invites the detective to tell Moo-jin whatever it is, since he was on Do Min-seok’s case at the time, and they proceed to have the most vague conversation about “that” until Moo-jin nearly cries in frustration. Finally the doctor says there was a witness.
Jae-seob wakes up, hands and feet tied, at the bottom of an empty indoor pool. Kyung-choon drags a knife down his face, marveling at his new identity and life, and Hee-sung brags that he even owns a house just to antagonize him. Hee-sung chuckles that the one Kyung-choon really wants revenge on is dead and that he’s just a way for Kyung-choon to vent his anger, spitting the rumors about Do Hyun-soo in Kyung-choon’s face.
Kyung-choon asks if Hee-sung is scared he’ll kill him, but Hee-sung says that he’s not scared of someone he can see right through. Kyung-choon stabs him in the arm to make a point that he can still feel pain, and he promises to keep torturing Hee-sung until he tells him where to find his wife.
Hee-sung gasps, “That was close enough… “ and when Kyung-choon leans down to listen, Hee-sung bites his ear off. He growls that killing him would be a failure to get revenge, because Kyung-choon can’t prove something that Hee-sung didn’t do or even know of.
At the accident scene, Ji-won touches base with Jae-seob and is forced to tell him that she believes her husband is Kyung-choon’s victim, though she doesn’t know why, or even what Hee-sung was doing at that hotel. Too flustered to know what to do, she begs Jae-seob to give her an order. When he says they’ll know more once they locate Kyung-choon’s vehicle, Ji-won screams that they’ll find Hee-sung in pieces by then.
She sobs that her priority is no longer to catch Kyung-choon, but to find her husband alive. She argues that Jae-seob has caught kidnappers before with less evidence, so he taps into his infamous intuition and comes up with an idea.
Meanwhile, Woo-chul goes to see Hee-sung’s “parents” to notify them of his kidnapping. He asks if they’ve heard of Do Hyun-soo and the serial murders in Yeoungju (which they deny), and tells them that the police believe the kidnapper is trying to frame Do Hyun-soo for murder in order to revive the case, so he’s taken Hee-sung to set him up as Hyun-soo’s supposed victim.
Woo-chul takes his leave after promising to station some cops to protect them, but he’s suspicious of how calm Hee-sung’s parents were about the whole thing. His partner agrees that they seemed more interested in the Do Hyun-soo case than their son’s well-being.
Inside, Hee-sung’s parents argue over whether they should have made him live with them when they took him in. Mom bursts into the real Hee-sung’s hidden room, scared that when the kidnapper is caught, people will find out that Hee-sung isn’t their real son. Dad says that the kidnapper will kill Hee-sung/Hyun-soo, then they can lie that they didn’t know who he really is and pretend to be a pitiful old couple who got used by him.
Kyung-choon begins to pump water into the swimming pool, where he’s bolted Hee-sung’s hands to the floor. Hee-sung repeats that he can’t prove what he doesn’t know, but Kyung-choon continues that his wife disappeared on May 12, 2002, a beautiful day, and that she was last seen in Do Min-seok’s car.
Still in Yeoungju, Moo-jin has drinks with the detective who worked on Do Min-seok’s case. He goes to the bathroom and writes notes on his arm, like the date and place that Kyung-choon’s wife disappeared.
Kyung-choon pauses his monologuing to take some medicine, then continues talking about a witness, who saw Mi-sook being forced into Do Min-seok’s car. Min-seok was acquitted because, according to Kyung-choon, his son provided a false alibi. Hee-sung insists that he told the truth about being with his dad that entire day, and that the witness was drunk and changed her statement while his stayed consistent.
Kyung-choon shows Hee-sung his fish tile, and from Hee-sung’s reaction, he definitely recognizes it. Kyung-choon says that Nam Soon-kil said this one belonged to Do Hyun-soo, when it’s the one Mi-sook was carrying when she disappeared. Hee-sung recalls his father’s funeral, when his sister Hae-soo gave him the fish tile keychain. She’d said it was for luck, and had told him to keep it on him at all times.
In the present, Hae-soo avoids the reporters demanding to ask her questions about her brother, only sticking her head out to say that demurely that she didn’t know her father was a serial killer and offer a perfunctory “sorry” to the victims’ families.
Jae-seob tells Ji-won that he caught one kidnapper because he’d noticed there was an expensive lock on his door in a very run-down area. They believe that Kyung-choon might have something similar, and they head to his home to investigate.
Kyung-choon grows angry when Hee-sung completely stops talking after seeing the fish tile. The water rises to Hee-sung’s chin but he continues to say that he doesn’t know where Mi-sook is until the water covers his head.
While going through Kyung-choon’s garbage, Ji-won finds a torn-up ad for a fancy lock system and calls the number, and the employee who answers remembers installing a lock in an area where construction was halted. They find Kyung-choon’s taxi there and determine which building he’s in by the new lock, which Jae-seob smashes.
They run in just as Kyung-choon is making his escape, and Jae-seob disarms and arrests him, but Kyung-choon grabs the knife again and stabs Jae-seob in the side. Ho-joon bursts in, gun drawn, but he hesitates as Kyung-choon grabs Jae-seob and holds his body like a shield.
Jae-seob yells to Ho-joon to shoot, but Ho-joon still hesitates. So with a roar, Jae-seob slams himself and Kyung-choon backwards in to the wall, smashing Kyung-choon’s head into a bolt and killing him.
Ji-won continues inside, and she finds Hee-sung in the pool and doesn’t hesitate to jump in to rescue him. She can’t get his face above the water line because of his bonds, so she takes a gulp of air then uses her mouth to push the air into Hee-sung’s lungs. She repeats this until Hee-sung opens his eyes.
We go back to 2008, when Hee-sung had angrily offered to tell Ji-won exactly what kind of person he is. He’d said he never graduated high school and was in a gang, and used to get in bad fights. He’d smiled as he remembered beating up a guy, saying that it felt good, and he’d stared at the vision of his father as he admitted that sometimes he sees things that aren’t there.
He’d told Ji-won that he’s not right in the head, and that he sees a dead person. Ji-won had replied that he must have loved them, like she sometimes dreams of her dead grandmother, and Hee-sung had called her clueless.
Ji-won had said that Hee-sung’s problem was that he didn’t see himself the way she sees him, and she’d vowed to keep liking him and promised that one day, things would change for the better. Hee-sung had stared at her in that way that made her heart skip a beat, and he’d said in wonder, “You’re a mystery to me.”
Ji-won had asked if that was a confession, then she’d decided it was and had kissed him. In the middle of the kiss, Hee-sung had opened his eyes, and like Ji-won did with her grandmother in her dream, he’d told the vision of his father, “You can go now. I want to stay here, so please.. please go.”
Slowly, Min-seok had turned and walked away. Ji-won had ended the kiss and nervously asked Hee-sung if he wanted to have a drink, but he had kissed her again, more passionately this time.
In the present, Ji-won grabs a knife and jumps back in the pool to cut the ropes keeping Hee-sung underwater. She pulls him to the surface and keeps giving him air, but he doesn’t wake up. She screams for help, as we hear Hee-sung’s thoughts:
I always thought that I was lucky to have met you. But for the first time, I’m thinking you should never have met me. Yes. I finally know what it means. I’m sorry.
He loses what little consciousness he’d gained, and he’s gone.
COMMENTS
Well, there’s no way Hee-sung is dead, not with this only being Episode 5! But I loved that this episode was all about Ji-won searching for him, because we got to see their relationship from a different angle than the one we’ve seen, which looks a bit like Hee-sung is just using Ji-won for cover. But that glimpse into the beginning of their relationship showed us exactly why Hee-sung cares about Ji-won… she’s the first person who believed in him and saw the best of him, and loved him for all that he was and not just in spite of his shortcomings. Not only that, but she banished the specter of his father, allowing Hee-sung to live the life he wanted to live.
I like the turnaround in this episode of Ji-won getting to save Hee-sung — she’s such a strong, smart character and I enjoy watching her in action. Unfortunately for Hee-sung, his wife’s intelligence is soon going to start working against him, especially now that she knows he’s keeping secrets from her. At this point I do believe that Hee-sung isn’t guilty of murder, and I’d love to see him loop in Ji-won and the two of them use her smarts and connections to clear his name.
I also believe that Hee-sung has mental illness issues, ones that he freely admits and doesn’t really try to hide. He’s haunted by both real and imagined specters of the past, and he often makes decisions that can harm others. He even confessed to Ji-won that it sometimes felt good to hurt people. But I also think that Hee-sung wants to be a good person, that he studies expressions in order to fit in rather than hide his true self. Now that we know him a bit better, I trust that he loves Ji-won and Eun-ha because they see that best side of him, and that he does just want to live a quiet life away from his painful memories.
But someone did kill Kyung-choon’s wife, and if Hee-sung and his father were together that day, there’s only one person left… Hae-soo. I’m starting to suspect that Hae-soo is the real child-killer of Do Min-seok’s, and not Hee-sung as everyone has always believed. If Min-seok was grooming Hee-sung to murder people, it makes sense that he would be doing the same with his daughter, and there are so many things about Hae-soo that make alarms go off in my head. As little screen time as she’s had, we’ve already been given several ominous clues about her… she was there when the village foreman was killed, she had a “secret art room” that her father built for her, she had possession of the missing woman’s fish tile keychain, and even the fact that her job is to make people appear believably dead seems oddly specialized. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s Do Min-seok’s true protege, and that either Hee-sung doesn’t know, or he’s been hiding the truth about her all these years.
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1 Junie Bug
August 15, 2020 at 6:05 PM
Before I dive (haha, too soon?) into the main parts, having Haesoo as the real serial killer/dad’s accomplice is so interesting to me and I really want to see where it goes. Like LollyPip said, all signs point to her and now I need her backstory.
That scene in the pool stressed me out to no end. I was screaming at my screen and holding my breath with Jiwon. With this scene being teased immediately, I’m glad they didn’t drag it out till sometime later in the show. It fit here perfectly because it’s one of Jiwon’s first realizations that something’s off with the case despite getting hidden by her feelings of not wanting her husband to die (which makes sense). Despite how scary the scene was, the combination of direction and soundtrack was really good. In general, the music has worked so well with all of the scenes to amplify the emotions the actors/characters are feeling.
Yes, Heesung/LJG was drowning and got kidnapped, but this episode was definitely Jiwon/MCW’s time to shine. Her acting was phenomenal and you could feel her desperation, anguish, every emotion coming through the screen. Each scene of hers got increasingly powerful. Her receiving the watch to finding the phone to the car chase to the ultimate pool scene, every time she got closer to finding Heesung, her actions and facial expressions showed the escalation of her emotions. Her crying scene at the end was also very well done. I haven’t seen MCW in many things but this episode proved to me how amazing of an actor she is. I loved it.
Another thing I really enjoy about this show is that the police officers are able to pick up on those small details during conversations, out in the field, and everything in between. Male and female alike, everyone reacts to the things the same way and I truly appreciate this. I’m sure they aren’t gonna think anything bad about Heesung and immediately pick up on his double life, but it’s nice to know they’re still realizing some things are off. I have a feeling these things are gonna be brought up again and it’s all gonna become connected once everything about Heesung/Hyunsoo gets revealed, but for right now I’ll take those small moments.
Heesung so deeply cares for Jiwon that it’s heartbreaking every time he sees his father and is haunted by his past. He is under the influence that Jiwon is the only way to hide himself from his past, however, I believe he’s using that mentality and reasoning to hide his true feelings. I really want him to finally come to terms with this and realize that his feelings lie beyond just using Jiwon as a method to keep himself safe. And, here again I’m throwing all my hope in that he does actually care for her and hoping that Heesung isn’t just faking it (but, if he is… dang).
I have to end on a mention to a funny scene and that definitely goes to the scene with the police officers. OMG that flying kick was beautiful and could rival LJG’s. They were fighting like school children and the hair-pulling...
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sung shachi (call me shachi)
August 15, 2020 at 6:23 PM
in the first three episodes i thought jiwon was a bit dumb/naive for believing her husband and never questioning him, but by the fourth i realized that she loves him so much that she'd never even think to question him or believe that he'd even be associated with this mess. i rewatched the first three episodes after looking at her in a new light and you can really see how much she loves him by just her warm expressions or when she calls him "jagiya".
i really, really hope heesung cares for his wife and his daughter deep down because a) i can't have lee joon gi be that heartless, b) you can see how much they love him and c) i feel like he really does either care for them (or he's an incredible actor but i hope this isn't it!!)
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Junie Bug
August 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM
Right?? Jiwon is capable as a detective and picks up on the details but her love is just "blinding" her and she's not able to wrap her head around the dark past Heesung has. Her every action just shows her affection and that's such a huge part of her story and character that if everything just deteriorates, I'm both scared and intrigued by how she's going to react to it all.
Same!! It seems to me like he does but he keeps so much hidden that it's just hard to tell. The way he interacts with the both of them makes me think he does (at least to some minor extent if anything) but if they pull that switcheroo, I'd again both love and hate it (if they can pull it off effectively, that'd add something very interesting to the plot entirely).
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Hugepuffball
August 15, 2020 at 8:29 PM
I also think the way she can be 'blinded' by love or her emotions was reflected in this episode. From the way she fumbled to explain the watch in the car or her frantic car chase, it's clear that she's not operating at full capacity when Hee Sung is involved (though in this case the fear and worry were obviously justified)
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Eazal
August 16, 2020 at 12:25 AM
I was totally broken when JiWon yelled in the phone that she didn't care about finding Kyung Choon, but that she wanted to find her husband alive. Oh! That's so human! I could feel her anguish.
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Junie Bug
August 16, 2020 at 6:58 PM
That scene was incredible on her part. The writing and direction were just perfect.
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2 kaizen68
August 15, 2020 at 6:08 PM
I don't get the low ratings. This drama is soo good... I'm a psychology student and studied the psychology of serial murderers. The writer definitely did a lot of research about his character.
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Jushi
August 15, 2020 at 8:35 PM
Yeah. There is depth and wholeness to her characters. Not just Hyun Su but all of her important characters.
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persianrose❤️战哥
August 16, 2020 at 8:31 PM
This drama is dark, maybe very dark, not something people can watch with their family... hence the mediocre rating is expected
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3 amara
August 15, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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4 amara
August 15, 2020 at 6:23 PM
need an answer.....does anyone else find it almost impossible to believe in their love when it's been years of deceit? like i can't stop thinking about this lmao i just would have yeeted the minute anything was shady. i am very curious about it but i cannot get over that hurdle. there was never a lack of trust on her end or something that had to be kept secret (idk if i'm explaining it well. their rship is "perfect" like the first ep indicated) so to have your world completely shaken this way after a major illusion (that fsr...she didn't...pick up on but unraveled w the pen) i don't understand that attachment. but i guess i'll never get cops. and there's levels to "romance"i guess i can understand but this brings up such a disconnect in me. when toxicity of a partner is introduced when there's been a lack of i can't imagine being able to go along with it.
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Lixie
August 15, 2020 at 6:52 PM
I wouldn't care much. He isn't a boyfriend, he's a husband, the father of their child and as far as we know she has been madly in love with him for a long time. It seems he's been very good husband and father. She suspects something is weird about him until that rescue, but it's hardly enough to change how she feels about the guy.
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amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:03 PM
yes ur right sorry i meant abt long term lol like this is a hump that is almost impossible for me to see someone getting over. i think it's kinda crazy that the moment u have an inkling on something this heavy u keep urself in taht situation as a cop and a mom but i d k
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sorrynotsorry
August 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM
I think this is the point of the drama. When it all comes out, how much of the foundation of their relationship will crumble because of him basically lying by omission about his past. (nevermind the name/family stuff) I mean I think you can love someone and still not have trust which will doom anything in the future if they don't figure it out.
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amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:02 PM
oh for sure, i agree with you. i just meant like...for the future. this is such a huge huge huge deal. i can hardly imagine cheating, you know, but this????? i just can't imagine wanting to sustain it or idk also as a mother being totally irresponsible. she would be so justified to go nuts. i would prefer it if she did i guess. i doubt there's gonna be an exploration of women in this position but it sucks
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Beverly
August 15, 2020 at 7:44 PM
I think it is fairly realistic. She never really had any doubts about him before and she is an investigator, she'd want to find out the truth first.
Besides how many of us have stuck by believing the best of friends and family who have constantly given us reasons to doubt?
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amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:06 PM
sure, but we are "regular" people, right? we aren't investigators. ostensibly if he is a killer these people are master manipulators, though it's kinda sad that her love is hindering her from seeing this and now she has an idea. there's a soompi post where they talk about her character and in a blog post she (ji won) wrote, "i think my husband is a serial killer" —the love of your life, the father of your child, everything you stand against.
it's irresponsible, erratic, not thought through but it doesn't have to be. i just have such a hard time with it. like i get love doesn't make sense. it's sort of like the dilemma in sky castle (totally diff show and tone ik) but it's like....youre sticking in a predicament solely for you honestly there's really no question about it. but there's no way this will end well.
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Beverly
August 15, 2020 at 8:33 PM
Have you watched or just reading the recaps? I dont want to spoil for you. But by this ep she is just starting run into his double life with some small suspicions and we don't know how much she knows or how she will react. So right now he is just her husband who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but she doesn't really know why.
The show is paced really fast so with this ep there was no time for her to do anything but move forward.
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amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:41 PM
just saw ep 6 hahahah
amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:45 PM
really what i mean is that i cannot find any possible way for this rship to last and i think it would be super unfair for her life to write it that way. i feel totally at sea with the happiness people have about her believing in him and only believing what she sees (which is also a clear problem) i think that type of response is too glamorous and it makes me sad that the love should be preserved instead of everyone's safety and trust. i dont even know if this will be the show's intention moving forward. i am hoping it becomes more scathing after this.
Beverly
August 15, 2020 at 9:54 PM
@boughtabride I see what you mean. I was slow on the up take.
That the show, even if he isn't the killer, should show the fall out from living a lie, that it is too much of a breach.
Yeah, I'm definitely in camp i dont want him to be truly bad and let's forgive and forget after some time and story arc.
Some on here are in the make him a serial killer and others in the make Ji won even darker than her husband potentially could be.
It all makes it kind of fun.
amara
August 15, 2020 at 10:57 PM
im in the "make ji won go dark" how FUN would that be. we shall see what happens. i think the show at least has messed with our expectations so hopefully it will be a story that we can all be satisfied with that won't do a disservice to the woman who this show is about.
but srsly i'd love to see her go nuts lmao
Eazal
August 16, 2020 at 12:29 AM
I get what you say, but then, I feel she knows more than we think (I haven't watched episode 6). I mean, in the flashback scene, she tells him she can help him build "a lie", like a new life. So... how much does she know about that lie? How much does she want to know? Did she take the blue or the red pill?
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amara
August 16, 2020 at 12:41 AM
I would be so happy if she was complicit bc id rather her have that control than not. Gonna be interesting to see what it is like going forward! And thats rly naive of her but regardless. She would have to be too foolish to not even feel it a little esp bc of his parents so thats a good point.
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louie
August 16, 2020 at 2:24 AM
Lol... we have a neighbor they found out their dad is gay and we were 15 years old at that time. He and wife got seperated after that things can be kept secret
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amara
August 16, 2020 at 5:27 AM
i mean yes but this is a very...not comparable situation. also of course he and his wife would separate lol. coming out later in life is common...
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5 sung shachi (call me shachi)
August 15, 2020 at 6:28 PM
i'm currently watching lee joon gi in moon lovers: scarlet heart ryeo as well (and fell in love with him there) which is why i'm watching flower of evil now-- but my mind CANNOT fathom that these are the same actor! wang so is so cold on the surface but cares a lot deep down and heesung seems like the literal opposite. and i watched the running man and knowing bros eps of lee joon gi who is literally the SWEETEST guy ever! and idk how to explain it but he's really like pretty for a guy?? which makes his role in flower of evil scarier because of how well he pulls this off.
ps. how the heck is this man 38
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Carol
August 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM
@Sung Sachi Hahaha I could relate. I felt the same way the first time I discovered Lee Joon Gi in ‘Moon Lover: Scarlet Heart Ryeo’. You’d probably be amazed if you watch his other works, especially if you start from ‘The King and The Clown’ then ‘Time Between Dog and Wolf’ and so on. I also asked the same question, are these characters played by the same actor?
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sorrynotsorry
August 15, 2020 at 6:55 PM
LJG's breakout role was playing a feminine character in The King and The Clown so he is an original flower boy.
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sung shachi (call me shachi)
August 15, 2020 at 7:55 PM
do you know where can i watch the king and the clown?
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WaywardHistorian
August 15, 2020 at 8:36 PM
It's available in some countries on both Netflix and Amazon Prime. I just don't know which country you would need to set your VPN to.
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Glee Peters
August 16, 2020 at 2:25 AM
you can watch in Viu
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Junie Bug
August 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM
He just doesn't age. The difference in personality in his shows (esp. MLSHR and FoE) and in real life is so jarring haha His acting really is no joke
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Carol
August 15, 2020 at 10:55 PM
That is why, I watch anything he is in. The way he delivers each character amazes me.
His previous drama Lawless Lawyer, he played this gaunt looking cocky gangster lawyer and now he is playing the total opposite character who is cold and restraint character in Flower of Evil.
For FOE, I am only on the 2nd episode, I love how each character in the unfolds and looking forward to watch the succeeding episodes.
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cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 11:07 PM
Side note, and I know I probably shouldn't worry about actors' physical health and stuff, I don't want to intrude on their lives or anything... but he looks like he gained some weight between lawless lawyer and now, which I'm happy for. He had me worried for a second in that show.
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Carol
August 16, 2020 at 5:00 AM
I think you are mistaken, between the character and real persona of the actor. I was solely talking about the character in Lawless Lawyer. I meant the gaunt looking was the character. That’s how the character is. That why I said, how amazing how he portrays those individual characters in details, and how they look different from one another including the weight, leanness and bulkiness of those characters.
In Flower of Evil, his character Baek Hae Sung is like a perfectly normal on the outside, thus the physical appearance looks normal as well.
Anyways, I am looking forward to watch episodes 3 to 6.
cozybooks
August 16, 2020 at 8:10 AM
Yeah, His character was written like that too... I just remember starting with the Korean "Criminal Minds" and then again in "Lawless Lawyer" going 'oh dang. He's gotten really, really skinny. I hope he's doing ok' so I was glad to see he looks like he's gained back a bit of weight.
Carol
August 16, 2020 at 5:04 PM
I think Lee Joon Gi still looked healthy even he was skinny at that time. Only his character looked gaunt because of how he slouch himself in the drama, and certain facial expression.
It is but normal for any actors to lose or gain weight for a drama or movie. An yes, I understand your concern as a fan.
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peachnita
August 15, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Hm, my memory is a bit fuzzy but I remember living (er, suffering is more like it) through Moon Lovers because of LJG acting and portayal... I just don't know if Wang So and Hee Su are really different chatacters... in my memory it's more or less the same character stuck in different circumstances...
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sung shachi (call me shachi)
August 16, 2020 at 6:12 AM
i think the main difference i see right now is that wang so clearly loved hae su whereas it’s unclear if heesung cares for his family (or if he’s even capable of caring for others). and wang so was wholly capable of showing emotions but heesung has antisocial personality disorder so he can’t really differentiate between emotions and even has to practice smiling and crying to fit in. both were outcasts at some point tho
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marina
September 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM
O god! Wang So! I cried a river for him. LJG is an absolute gem.
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sung shachi (call me shachi)
September 1, 2020 at 6:32 PM
i started crying from the 2nd half of ep 19 and only stopped after ep 20-- still hurts my heart tho :(
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6 loveblossom🌸
August 15, 2020 at 6:36 PM
This episode was insanely intense. I'm glad the pool scene showed up now instead of being a final stage.
Ji Won's frantic emotions and desperation in finding Hee Sung was so palpable. I felt immense relief when she finally saw him. Almost to tears. I liked the directing of the final scene and how bravely Ji Won acted in rescuing him. It wasn't a quick save. She had to come up for air a few times, give him air, and then look for a tool to cut the ties. The dramatic instrumental background music was great. It fit the scene well and wasn't overly loud or jarring. There's another bgm music that can be a bit much.
Hee Sung's last thought was heartbreaking. It wasn't clear in the beginning, but now I know he does love her.
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cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 6:48 PM
Same, I'm so glad that scene was the beginning of our adventure and not the end. It feels like we're going to get a lot more cat and mouse and less close calls of "oh, he almost got found out". No. He's already on the edge, and now she has to decide what to do about it.
I agree about the directing, too!!
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hodhod96
August 15, 2020 at 11:47 PM
Lol and for the first few seconds I thought she is kissing him which had me screaming at my screen that THIS IS NOT THE TIME. It just didn't occur to me that she is rescuing him lol.
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7 cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 6:43 PM
Ahh I think that moment in the past when HeeSung asked if he should tell her who he really is was my favorite of this episode. It put a whole new light on their relationship for me, because it means JiWon really can't be TOO far in the dark about what kind of person her husband could be/was-- she knows he was in a gang, she knows he felt good when he'd beaten someone up. He'd even told her he wasn't normal. That, plus how hard he tried to push her away when the first met has actually eased my mind. It's been dawning on me as I've been watching that she's really probably seen him grow from the person he was into the person he is today. And while it's going to be hard to realize he's still not completely whole, I feel better knowing she's not totally clueless he's not exactly a saint.
PS I also TOTALLY think the sister could be a sketchy killer. I'd totally buy that, bring it!
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Lixie
August 15, 2020 at 6:59 PM
Yes, that was my favorite moment too. I guess that really proves he was never using her to build a better disguise and the fact he said those things about his past will make more sense for her.
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Hugepuffball
August 15, 2020 at 8:34 PM
I loved that moment as well! In some ways in these flashbacks I wondered if she was willfully misinterpreting some things (like if someone told me they're not right in the head because they see people who aren't there my mind wouldn't jump to 'oh yeah I also dreamed of my grandma's ghost one time'), but also with the ways he continued to engage with her like watching over the shop in the power outage or hanging out with her on his days off, I see how he could've just seemed like he was acting like a tough guy to scare her away.
But her response really shined to me because of how unwavering she was in her belief that he just didn't see himself in the right light, and I think both HS and the viewer wanted to believe her.
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Fly Colours
August 15, 2020 at 11:16 PM
"It's been dawning on me as I've been watching that she's really probably seen him grow from the person he was into the person he is today." So true! That scene made me think that she was aware of his issues (not his past or his family - but that something was off) and just liked him the way he was...
So nice that you point out that she saw his development, it makes their relationship a lot more believable and grounded than him just pretending for 12 years!
I really want to find out her side of the the story, because her unwavering wooing - and her mom trusts him too - must come from something that happened during those 2 years before they started dating. Like, I think she'd responded so positively to his admission of enjoying hurting people and seeing things because by this point she'd known him for a couple of years, he was her oppa. There's a backstory for them and I really want to see it
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cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 11:24 PM
Aah good thoughts! I have 2 in return:
1. I think you're right about her being aware of some of his issues--it just doesn't make sense for her not to know when he's also admitted he doesn't understand why she'd like "a guy like him" and was so distant to her when they first met.
2. True about the rest of the untold story! If we were to read into it even further, she'd mentioned that he always came looking for her when it was late at night. That implies two years of him looking after her when she got into potentially dangerous situations, and I feel like that's long enough to start trusting someone even when you find a less attractive fact about them or trait. Especially since he was always so quick to bring it up himself--in an actions speak louder than words sort of way, that would tell me he's really actually concerned.
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8 jillian
August 15, 2020 at 6:58 PM
Moon Chae Won owned this episode. I cried with her through the desperation and frantic search for her husband. I really like Ji Won and now understand why Hee Sung treasures her and their daughter. I agree that he only wants to live a quiet life with his little family but current circumstances make it difficult for him to do so. I blame Kim Moo Jin and that article.
Hae Soo is indeed suspicious but she has lived a seemingly quiet life until now when DMS is back in the news. I am not yet convinced that she is the accomplice, there could be someone else lurking in the shadows.
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WaywardHistorian
August 15, 2020 at 7:50 PM
I totally agree with you that this was Moon Chae-won's episode. Her complete loss of cool when she announced that finding Hee-sung alive was a bigger priority than her job of apprehending the murderer was realistic as hell.
I'm currently willing to believe that introducing Hae-soo as Murder-pop's apprentice is where the writer is going with the story, but it also seems plausible that in a story about false identities, this is an early episode red herring. Since there have also been some vague hints that Murder-pop might have been a fall guy as well, I'm more curious at how this is going to go than I am to pinning myself down to a prediction.
Until you mentioned that Moo-jin's article was the catalyst for all this, I hadn't thought about it, but you have a point. Now I *really* want to know what the #@$% was on the videotape.
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Jushi
August 15, 2020 at 9:11 PM
So true! At this point in the story, it's hard to stick to one possible theory because it still is too early. But besides that, the show creators are just so skillfull in subverting expectations by doing the reveals in ways the audience never imagined.
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Fly Colours
August 15, 2020 at 11:31 PM
Moon Chaewoon is doing a great job!
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jillian
August 16, 2020 at 12:07 AM
I like that I get to enjoy another show that she is in. I couldnt sit through the last dramas, Fairy and CM.
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9 Hugepuffball
August 15, 2020 at 8:26 PM
I was eagerly awaiting this recap! I think this episode really does a great job of humanizing Hee-sung for us, with his angry and indignant insistence that he had nothing to do with his father's murders. He seemed so fed up with the way that after he had gone to such lengths to start over he was still getting (literally) dragged back into these old assumptions just by association with his father. I'm tempted to agree with the theory that Hae-soo was the one really complicit in the murders, though at this point it's so early that the fish tag may just be a red herring. The idea of her being the one who really kidnapped the victim and then planted the evidence of the fish on her brother in case people ever looked into it though...that would be pretty terrifying.
Also, I so so loved the scene at the end wherein Hee Sung realized that JiWon wasn't going to run away from him and that the love she offered was like a lifeline he could grab onto to free himself from his father. Now the hard part is just going to be convincing JiWon of that, since I have a feeling their marriage is going to take a steep turn for the worse before it gets much better. Though her initial reaction for her husband was obviously of concern, part of her panicked reaction with the watch was also certainly due to fear of the implications this has on who her husband is. She recalled the way he paused when she shouted 'Do Hyun Soo' before their chase, and there aren't too many other reasonable explanations. I don't think this would've been much of a problem for her if he'd been transparent from the start, but now the mistrust is already building. (Break my heart, show, but then you better mend it before we part ways.)
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cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 11:11 PM
(Break my heart, show, but then you better mend it before we part ways.)... Amen, you and me both.
But I also LOVED the way HeeSung reacted in this episode, and LJG performance. The way he kept repeating he couldn't testify about what he didn't know, and then repeating all the things others said about him... I feel like it shows how much all those things actually hurt him, without him having retaliated against them eye for an eye. He's such an interesting character, and I can't wait to see the drama unfold (but please please please let it have a happy ending...)
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10 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
August 15, 2020 at 8:30 PM
Did anyone not see that coming?
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amara
August 15, 2020 at 8:42 PM
is that possible oh my god i am so dumb ifhosuiaygfuh BUT is it...
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Fly Colours
August 15, 2020 at 10:59 PM
The visuals are great, but I'm sceptical about how that could work out in real life... It's a powerful and beautiful scene, though!
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cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Lol when I first watched the episode I actually sat there and paused it, trying to decide if it would actually work, and if it would work better if you didn't inhale the air but just used your mouth as like a big container and closed it.
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Fly Colours
August 15, 2020 at 11:23 PM
But by that point he would have already have water in his lungs, right? How can she introduce enough air into his lungs to extract that water - underwater? Only ever took a crash course on resuscitation in my life, but that whole scene looks wrong. Maybe other Beanies can illuminate us on underwater rescue manoeuvres
cozybooks
August 15, 2020 at 11:26 PM
Lol I actually watched this episode with a friend who's a lifeguard, she commented while watching that's totally not how you do CPR...
Fly Colours
August 15, 2020 at 11:35 PM
Drama-CPR...😂😂😂 Don't let research get in the way of a good scene, ah! Dramagods, never change 💚
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
August 15, 2020 at 11:47 PM
No idea whether it would work or not, but I've seen it before. Basically, underwater CPR/kiss is drama-writer catnip.
windsun33
August 16, 2020 at 8:27 AM
Perhaps possible, but not the way she did it. And that was the poorest example of "drama CPR" I have ever seen.
Anon
August 15, 2020 at 11:45 PM
Lol. I'm also a former lifeguard, and my first thought when we saw this scene as a flashforward in ep 1 was...yeah...no...but anyway, I'm enjoying this far too much to let that ruin it for me. It's such a kdrama trope that I'm used to it by now lol.
And also, the placement of her hands while doing chest compressions... definitely not how it's done. But I chalked it up to Jiwon's panic so I didn't have to come too far out of the scene..
But I adored the entire sequence from a narrative perspective. It was gorgeous and moving, if logistically impossible.
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Vegito
November 16, 2020 at 3:16 AM
Omgg I know it's just a drama, but when I saw that i was like bruh... come on, some unrealistic things can fly in dramas, but that's just stretching it too far lmao. In fact, it's even said that you 100% should not attempt resuscitation under water because you're just pushing the water in further and could inflict more damage.
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drabea
January 19, 2021 at 3:35 PM
Before thinking that she was wasting time just pushing water further into his lungs,
and that she was doing compressions on the right side of his chest,
I was bothered by the fact that they
were already sooo late and
why didn't she run, (fast like she did chasing him earlier), around the pool instead of splashing into the end and wading through the water the length of the pool, and
HS was obviously stuck, why didn't she grab some tool (that was obviously close by) before going in?
And because they were going after a kidnapper that had committed murder before, (all the way from some distant village), why is there never any local back up to help?
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11 Anon
August 15, 2020 at 11:27 PM
Thanks for the recap!! This was a riveting episode, and they're getting better and better each time.
For some reason, I'm not super sold on Hae-soo being the serial killer/ helper (although I do think she killed the town leader, probably in self defense, or in defense of her brother) even though it seems to the most logical explanation at this point. And that's because with everything else that went on around the time of the murders, and after, I'm starting to suspect a wider criminal conspiracy...but more on that in ep 6.
But if Hyun-soo is telling the truth about being with his father that day, it really does make me wonder about the father's role in the murders. If he killed one person, and the rest were copycat, or he killed some of the victims, and the others were attributed to him to cover something else up. The fact that he conviently committed suicide, which led him to be held soley responsible for the killings has always been a little fishy.
I just keep thinking of the parallels in the first episode. I initially took the story of the dad and the boy who fell down the stairs as an allegory for Hyun-soo. Guilty of something, but not the thing he was originally accused of. But now I'm starting to wonder if it relates to Do Min-seok. It's obvious he was a horrible person (his son's clear terror of him seems to indicate that he was at the very least, extremely abusive... (seriously, the fact that Hyun-soo may not have known about the murders, but still imagines his Dad holding that dog-leash...it's super disturbing)). It would be super wild if Do Min-seok didn't kill anyone at all, and was "only" an abusive nutcase who terrorized his children. It's highly unlikely, given whatever Moo-jin filmed in the basement that day, but that would be an interesting twist.
Also, I just caught onto something random from rewatching. Did anyone else notice the dates were off? Hyun-soo was accused of killing the foreman 3 months after his father's death in 2002, but he was still wearing a highschool uniform in the flashback (both he and his sister were) and I was like, if he dropped out of high school why was he still wearing a uniform over the age of 20 if he was actually born in 1982? Then I realized in that scene where the cops first talk about the Noona, they say she was born in '84, and that she's Jiwon's age. Then it made sense. Hyunsoo is younger than the real Hee-sung, so he's pretending to be older than he is. In actuality, unless he and his Noona are twins (with her being a few minutes older) than he's at least three years younger than he's pretending to be. More like 34, or 35 max, while his wife and sister are 36. That gives a double meaning to the flashback where he and Jiwon first met, and she commented that he looked young for an '82er, (and he looked mildly alarmed to hear that) I thought it was just an inside joke on Lee Joon-gi's appearance, but it means more in retrospect. Anywho that was random, and...
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Maq
August 15, 2020 at 11:41 PM
I picked up on the thing about him being younger as well! It's kind of endearing that Ji-won's chagi is actually younger than her. It fits the show. In the context of their relationship, it seems like she's the one playing the protective role over him and, if I'm right about where the plot is headed, she'll continue to be the one defending and protecting him.
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Anon
August 16, 2020 at 12:15 AM
I'm totally with you on that. I also found it endearing and fitting that he's younger. Despite Hyunsoo's past, it's been striking me that Jiwon is so much more worldly wise than her husband, and obviously that would have been the same regardless of their ages. But I totally agree with you that it feels right. Somehow, symbolically it matches the fact that on the outside, he's viewed as unflappable/dangerous but on the inside, he's vulnerable and uncertain. It seems to fit that part of the charade is that he pretends to be older than he actually is.
And I also agree with you point about Jiwon as the protector. I've always liked the twist on the standard trope, that Jiwon is the cop and Hyunsoo is the primary caregiver parent/homemaker. It's so wonderfully refreshing that the narrative makes no big deal of this.
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Jushi
August 16, 2020 at 1:01 AM
And in a society that strongly adheres to the concept of the "dependable oppa", this is a definitely a refreshing take on what romantic partnership should look like. I feel like the show is subtly making a statement on Korean society in general and its mores; their proclivity towards rumors and gender stereotypes.
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Fly Colours
August 16, 2020 at 1:17 AM
About gender stereotypes, I really like how she gets to save him exactly the same way we saw male leads save their damsels over and over again. She's as fit and strong as any dashing ML, I find that cool
Maq
August 16, 2020 at 1:31 AM
@flyingcolours I do too! This is what I mean by her protecting him. It's cool and also very sweet. And it's not just with this kidnapping. Even with Hyun-soo's "fight" with Moo-jin, she immediately jumped in to protected Hyun-soo. It's a nice role reversal.
WaywardHistorian
August 16, 2020 at 5:24 PM
The first mention of the age differences that I saw was something by panshel in the episode 4 comments (dated 11 August).
"So your theory is Hyun-soo and Hee-sung are stepbrothers?
Hee-sung was born in 1982.
Hae-soo and Ji-won were born in 1984.
Hyun-soo and Moo-jin were born in 1985."
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Anon
August 16, 2020 at 8:08 PM
Thanks for the info! I figured it out kind of late, hehe. I knew his wife was older, because they mentioned in the show that she was his sister's age, but I totally missed the dates and assumed she was early forties while he was late thirties. I completely missed the fact that he was actually younger than he claimed to be. Thanks for clearing up the dates for me! ☺️
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12 Eazal
August 16, 2020 at 12:21 AM
So JiWon knows. She knows from the beginning of their relationship that HS is different, and decided to help him build "a lie" in her own words. That's interesting. How much more does she know?
Regarding HaeSoo, I'm not so sure she's the murdered. I mean, she obviously killed the man, but it seemed to be in self defense. I've hadthe feeling there's another killer from the beginning, because it was pointed out from the beginning that the original murderers didn't take much attention... how can it be possible if there was serial killer involved? It was all too easy catching Do Min Seok after he conveniently committed suicide and blaming him for everything that happened. Sure the golden fish is suspicious, but the show keeps throwing these red herrings to us, as HS with the raincoat...
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13 WendyH
August 16, 2020 at 12:38 AM
I wasn’t initially sure about Flower of Evil’s path of watering down the psycho elements (sort of hesitancy to put Lee Joon Gi in path of no return) but now I’m liking it.
The melodrama is as compelling as the suspense. Kudos to Lee Joon Gi and Moon Chae Won
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14 Jezz
August 16, 2020 at 1:29 AM
FOE totally suspense by my shock! Gosh, I hope male lead alive at the end of this series!
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15 tabong
August 16, 2020 at 1:54 AM
Someone while watching the last flashback of the episode said in a timmed comment "I don't even know who is less normal at this point, him or her", other said "she doesn't realise what she's signing up for" and also someone pointed out that "he can't read her".
The whole scene I was like "haha, she never cared about him being different because she's different too. They're both weird. What a cute scene". But after the f end of the episode all I could think was "what he meant by thaaaaaat" "he understands whaaaaaaat", so I came back and rewatch the flashback a lot of times.
And... I feel lost. I feel like I'm missing something big, so I think I'm totally wrong about this, but here we go:
1. JW and BH aren't that different. I think she has some kind of experiences that allow her to understand him and help him. When she said that things could change in just a moment, "just like a lie" what I though was that she knows that his smile and all that are fake in some amount, but also it made me think that maybe she does the same. And maybe that's why he feels sorry for her.
2. She gives him strength! He did the "Father. You should go now. I want to stay here" because he was with her.
Ah, and I almost die of anxiety because of the ending.
Thank you for the recap!!
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cozybooks
August 16, 2020 at 8:15 AM
Yes! I was also confused by his comment at the end. If I'm remembering right, he was recalling something someone had said earlier, that he now presumably understood the meaning of. BUT WHAT??
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tabong
August 16, 2020 at 1:34 PM
If he doesn't explains or at least gives us clues about what the hell he was talking about I'm going to end up wasting all my time thinking a lot in the most ridiculous explanations lol
I don't remember the last time I suffer this hard waiting for the next episode of a drama.
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16 Jezz
August 16, 2020 at 3:20 AM
I love Baek Hee-sung's voice-over:
I always thought that I was lucky to have met you. But for the first time, I’m thinking you should never have met me. Yes. I finally know what it means. I’m sorry.
If all trio-led characters (Baek Hee-sung/Do Hyun-soo/Cha Ji-won) will die in the end of this series by September, I can't believe cause this was unknown if this series will be one of the saddest K-drama endings ever. :(
I have to drop after this episode to avoid the conflicts whether if Hee-sung, Hyun-soo and/or Ji-won will be alive or dead despite of fictional serial killings' nature.
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17 candilane
August 16, 2020 at 8:18 AM
First, I want to say I love Cha Ji Won character. She really and truly loves her husband and even though she probably has a million questions or why he was there she did not hesitate to do everything to find him. Also, I think Noona had something to do with the village chief murder. I honestly think the village chief was probably trying to or did sexually assault her and Do Hyun So too the blame for it asking his sister to leave him and live a normal life.
Again, I think that head detective guy with the glasses is still suspicious. I wonder if he was the real accomplice. I am curious to see what lead to the events of Do Hyun So becoming Baek Hee Sung. Random: I think the adoptive mom may care about Do Hyun So a little bit, am I the only one to think so? The adoptive dad doesnt give AF but I think the adoptive mom actually may care about him, a tiny bit.
This drama keeps getting better and better.
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Anon
August 16, 2020 at 11:04 AM
Yesss, Jiwon is amazing. I absolutely love how among her teammates, she's definitely the best detective. While the Sunbae leads with emotion and personal bias, she's thorough, professional, and always looking beyond the surface. And she's so sweet and loving and protective and take charge in her personal life...I seriously adore her. She's one of the few female characters in kdrama who gets to be multifaceted, badass, AND a Mom. More of this, please!
Hmmm, personally speaking, I'm not sure about Baek Hee-sung's Mom. I'm of the opinion that she doesn't really care about Hyunsoo. It struck me, in this episode especially, how her immediate concern when Hyunsoo was in danger was to wonder how it would affect her real son. And she didn't look remotely concerned when her husband expressed hope that Hyunsoo would die, so their secret would die with him. She even seemed to agree. Even the times when she wished he would come home, spend time with them were contextualized in this ep when she said they should have kept him in the house to avoid something like this, i.e. their actions being found out. She wasn't remotely worried about Hyunsoo's safety or wellbeing.
Even the moments when she claimed ownership over him and his time, it seemed more of a possessive thing than anything else. He's the person who had been living as a proxy for her real son for years (at least 14?). That (along with the fact that they are providing cover for his real identity) seems to give her a sense of ownership over him. But the way she despises his child really does it for me. If you care for someone, even slightly, you would show some form of kindness to their baby, even if their having a child placed the person in danger. So yeah, there might be some attachment, and possession, but that doesn't translate to actual caring for me. She's comes across as cold, selfish, and abusive (emotionally).
In fact, I think she provides an interesting contrast to Hyunsoo's relationship with Jiwon. In his mind, because of experience and limited self knowledge, he thinks he's with her only because he needs her. But his actions towards her and their child show genuine love and care, even if he doesn't realize what he feels. But Hee-sung's Mom, while she needs Hyunsoo, can hardly br bothered to show kindness to him. Perhaps if she were really cunning, she would, just to keep him emotionally beholden to her. But she's too contemptuous of him to even pretend to do so. Yeah. I could be proven wrong in future, but at present, I just don't see her truly caring for Hyunsoo at all.
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candilane
August 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM
I don't think she hates him per se.. I think she resents him. He is living the life that her son should be living. I think she is angry because it should be her real son married with a pretty wife and child and not him. I guess we will see as the story unravels. Yes, Ji Won is a really great female lead because she is thorough in her investigations.
Do Hyun So probably thinks she wouldnt or couldnt love the real him. Its obvious he loves her and their child because he could have just bailed when his past came up but he didnt run, he tried to cover it up because he doesnt want to lose what his family. I also find it ironic that he begged his sister to live a " normal life" but its him that is actually doing it. His sister has been living quietly in the shadows but he has a family, a career, a home. DO Hyun So doesnt recognize his feelings but its pretty obvious that he is in love with his family. I think he thinks he doesnt deserve his life because of all the cruel things that he experienced and I love how Ji won said that she was going to give him lots of love because he truly needs it.
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18 Ammu
August 16, 2020 at 9:27 AM
What an intense episode!! Oh my... I didn't realise how tense my face or body were either until after the entire episode ended. I have to say the drama fully goes into each scene - whether it's action, violent scenes (quite a bit of that here), expressions, emotional scenes... especially impressed and moved by Moon Chae Won today. All of what she was going through in the episode, she brought us as the viewers with her - unable to stop thinking about why Heesung was where he was, then worried about his actual life and where he may be - what a string of emotions. The intensity of this drama keeps increasing and keeping my really engaged. Thank you for the recape!
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19 soulsearch12
August 16, 2020 at 4:49 PM
Very intense and fast paced episode. I liked that we got more into their relationship this episode. I can tell that Ji-won really loves her husband. Minor quibble, she should have gotten the knife first and cut off the ties, instead of waiting for her husband to regain back his consciousness. Seems like the show is trying to mix suspense and melodrama together, and I hope that the show keeps a good balance of the two going forward.
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20 Lookie
August 17, 2020 at 2:21 AM
All things point to Hae Sung, but LJG is just fantastic as anti-hero I would make up all kinds of alibi to exonerate him. I believe, though, that he is not the killer, but his biological sister.
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21 Gaby
August 18, 2020 at 11:47 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Heesung's sister (and the reporter) will be the ones who killed that last victim? Otherwise, why would she have that fish thing?
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22 Vegito
November 15, 2020 at 4:04 AM
Okay guys, nevermind Ji-Won and Hee-Sung relationship development, I'm out here feeling bad for taxi driver Kyung-choon. lmao I mean, if anything, he's kind of the real victim in this episode. Not excusing the bad he has done, just saying that I feel bad because I understand why he became like that, his wife was murdered and he never got the closure to bury her. (Although, it would've been nice if you didn't murder anyone to reach your goal bro but...) I feel his frustration! If Hee-Sung/Do Hyun So got taken like that, for sure Ji-Won would lose her marbles looking for him to the very end (i mean we see that clearly in this episode)...
I can't even explain my feelings here but I was kinda annoyed that Hee-Sung didn't give the taxi-driver some answers, like, the dude can't catch a break and you're about to just die and not even let him have some peace atleast from the horror your fam put him through.. (not that he should be responsible for the sins of his father... or maybe his sister here... and i get he probs loves his sis and doesn't want this psycho going after his sister on a hunch... buuuut still!!) can't help but feel more for the taxi driver rather than any of the main leads during this ep lmao.
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23 Mamas Boy
June 2, 2023 at 12:52 AM
This episode feels like it’s the finale or at least the penultimate episode. Now that they got the taxi driver, what else would happen that could stretch for 11 more episodes? Of course, BHS/DHS won’t die, he’s the ML after all.
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