Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching
by DB Staff
So, what are we all watching this week?
What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…
stroopwafel
Arthdal Chronicles: I am just overwhelmingly disappointed with Arthdal and the way the season concluded. I know that a second season may still be forthcoming, but I don’t know that I’ll be watching. The story had its highs–but they were far outweighed by its lows and all the money in the world couldn’t help with the poor pacing. The weird break part-way through didn’t help but even if the episodes had been aired consecutively I don’t know if it would have made much of a difference. For me, the weakest part of the show was how loosely the narrative plodded along at points and how little time was spent really exploring some of the characters, like Moobaek or Taealha. So when I think of Arthdal, I won’t think of the mythology or the characters, I’ll always think of what could have been.
tccolb
Secret Boutique: I don’t usually watch this genre, but I was curious enough to check out the first episode. As expected, most of the cast were on top form in terms of acting. However, I must admit I was a little disappointed by Park Hee-bon. I normally really like her, but she didn’t seem to quite fit the role – I wanted to see more confidence and poise. Although, maybe it’s something that improves in later episodes. The standout for me so far is Kim Jae-young, which is something missvictrix also talks about in her review. He has this quiet but strong presence in this role that I really like.
Be Melodramatic: I love this show so much. I can’t remember the last time that I watched a drama in which I genuinely liked all the characters to this degree. Well, maybe except Gong Myung’s ex (?). Although it, unfortunately, is a realistic struggle that happens in many long-term relationships, I can’t help but scream at the screen whenever she shows up. I say this even though I really also like that all the relationship problems are so true to life. There’s no birth secrets or trucks of doom or other high drama external factors that are forcing the couples apart. Instead, they deal with relatable issues and the show does a good job in showing their complexities while also incorporating humor into the situations. I can’t wait to see the finale, but I’m also sad that the show is ending already.
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1 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 4:01 AM
You may not have noticed that I took a hiatus but I took a hiatus. For two whole months even. But now I’m back and have picked up an airing drama and am watching an old one or two as well.
Graceful Family: What happens if you take a standard old-school makjang and put an awesome, badass female lead and an adorable and delightful beta male in it? CRACK. Pure, unadulterated cracky goodness. And with an OST that embodies makjang in musical form, it’s no surprise half of DB is now addicted.
Is it perfect? No. Is it, possibly, a little too sexist? Yes. But we don’t even really care.
Oh and yeah, we’re SHIPPPPPINNNNNG!!
We’re all on the ship, writers of Graceful Fish Cult. SET SAIL ALREADY.
Class of Lies: I do kind of wish I’d watched this while it was live airing. I could have gotten sucked into all the speculation and analysis and been blazingly, spectacularly wrong in real time. However, I had to go to the Arctic instead. Bummer?
Anyway, I finally got around to watching this and thought it was a good, solid crime thriller. It’s kind of a shame it aired in the same year as SKY Castle. Any brutal analysis of education corruption and the tyranny of an elite above the law is going to be compared to that brilliant and almost-perfect piece of satire - and come up short.
Flower Boy Next Door: I have now finished the Flower Boy series and can rank them in level of ‘Meh’: Shut up Flower Boy Band, Flower Boy Next Door and then the unwatchable Flower boy Ramen Shop.
Dream High (because Netflix made me, although I’m only a few episodes in): Suzy should make a Taecyeon/KSH sandwich. That’s all I got.
I have been appointed Official Shitposter for Salted Caramel Ji Chang Wook, the new romcom from the writer of Strong Woman Do Bong Soon. I haven’t yet decided the form of these shitposts but will have to come up with something soon since the first episode airs tomorrow.
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Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 4:40 AM
Confession: I love Dream High so much, lol.
I also didn't know the writer who wrote Stong Woman Do Bong Soon wrote Melting Me Softly, the problematic issues I had with that drama, hmmmm, but Wooka.
You have one more Flower Boy Series, they changed it to Flower Crew though, maybe that is distinction enough for you though, lol.
Also Welcome Back!!!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 4:57 AM
Oh, do I have one more Flower Boy? I thought there were only three?
*runs off after final Flower Boy Series*
*asks self why*
One thing I will say for Dream High, the director really got the best performances from these actors. I think it's the best I've seen from all of them.
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panshel
September 28, 2019 at 7:14 AM
The fourth Flower Boy series is Dating Agency Cyrano aka Flower Boy Dating Agency.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 12:56 PM
Oh, thanks. What is it like?
Mariah
September 28, 2019 at 3:54 PM
Dating Agency wasn't beloved I don't believe, but I liked some aspects of it. Age gap was too big and there wasn't a lot of chemistry between the leads, but the little group of matchmakers was cute and the lead guy was pretty good. ALso lots of great cameos. But it's def. not my favorite of the series. I'd put it on the level of Flower Boy Ramyun Shop, which I thought had many similar flaws and draws.
panshel
September 28, 2019 at 4:05 PM
Gong Yoo made a cameo appearance, so that's something. Dating Agency Cyrano is a procedural drama with a client of the week. Like you, I hated Flower Boy Ramyun Shop and forced myself to finish it, but I loved Shut Up: Flower Boy Band and enjoyed Flower Boy Next Door and Dating Agency Cyrano.
beantown
September 28, 2019 at 7:19 AM
I will always remember Dream High.....it was in the beginning of my kdrama obsession (I was doing a deep dive on Bae Yoon joon after Winter Sonata) and DH is responsible for bringing me over to Dramabeans because I could NOT make any sense of that ending!!!!
It is a catchy upbeat series, and I love the early Kim Soo-hyun
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 1:10 PM
I've always said that KSH can't act but has amazing presence. I'm seriously reconsidering that opinion. I've never seen him like he is in this show. But then Taecyeon is great in this too.
mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:28 AM
I don't think Flower Crew is done by Flower Boys Series team but it could've been plausible. Hwarang is actually done by them so I consider it as an unofficial installment of Flower Boys Series.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 5:30 AM
If it's the Joseon Marriage Agency drama then I'm not really interested. I'm just not a huge fan of sageuks.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:32 AM
It's that one. I don't recommend it anyway (neither Hwarang) so you miss nothing.
Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 2:24 PM
It is Joseon Marriage Agency, I think you would hate it. I watch it and kind of love it, but you might think it's trash.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 2:58 PM
I guess it depends if it's trash or TRASH
@kafiyah-bello
Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 4:31 PM
It's more trash than TRASH. It has every cliche under the sun. A love triangle, random traumas, chaebol son, poor girl (she isn't completely stupid), he likes her first, and it is completely absurd.
Saya
September 28, 2019 at 6:07 AM
You found SUFBB meh? Howwww
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mindy
September 28, 2019 at 9:12 AM
It also made me question her but she did write this so we’re still friends
http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/11/scene-stealers-bleeding-flowers/
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TAS-Mania
September 28, 2019 at 11:14 AM
I thought Shut Up Flower Boy Band was a great coming of age drama (and that Lee Min Ki really rocked the eyeliner).
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 12:49 PM
When you're trolling without meaning to troll.
As @mindy said, I did write that DB piece.
It kind of says it in there. The script is a pretty generic 'coming of age high school musical'. But then the whole LMK thing and the first two eps just elevate it above that. If you removed that brilliance, I would have found the whole thing 'meh'. But that brilliance is still in there.
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Beverly
September 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM
I still have to watch all of the Flower Boy shows.
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oppafangirl
September 28, 2019 at 10:22 AM
Hmmm.... What where you doing at Arctic? I think I missed your posts if you ever explained....
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 12:50 PM
I just went for fun.
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bea
September 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM
Puffins too!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM
PUFFINS
amara
September 28, 2019 at 3:20 PM
good crack or bad crack....
also i wondered where you were at. hopefully the hiatus was wonderful...hope you rtrip was good.
sky castle is a fuckin' masterpiece and i'm so glad you said 'almost perfect piece of satire' because absolutely. i could talk about it all day.
me tryna not be an outright jcw hater but i....will look out for ur posts :)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 3:24 PM
Good crack. Great crack.
But like a lot of Korean shows it walks a fine line between critiquing misogynism and having misogynism so baked in it can't help it.
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skelly
September 28, 2019 at 3:41 PM
I am trying to watch Graceful Family but I am having a really hard time with the stupidest thing - the lead female's nose. She's had some drastic plastic surgery, to make her nose that blade-thin and her nostrils so perfectly round. I can't seem to notice the rest of her face. Can she act?
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Rumi~
September 28, 2019 at 3:48 PM
Ironically she was the female lead of a drama about plastic surgery, & I thought it wa perfect because she looks like she had major work done.
She has been acting well in this drama, but before this her acting was trash.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 3:52 PM
I didn't even notice her nose. She isn't going to win any awards for her acting but she's really enjoyable in this.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 4:06 PM
And if you haven't already, go to my fan wall for a very important public service announcement about the sad condition that is Skinship Deprivation Syndrome (SDS)
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/leetennant/activity/887299/
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FlyingTool
September 28, 2019 at 7:25 PM
That is a MUST read for us beanies!
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2 cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 4:05 AM
JAPAN
WHEATHERING WITH YOU - Yup watched. spent money. Quality media demands respect.
Makoto Shinkai likes to play with audience. Tries to make you emotional to generate profit. Visuals that amaze you. Story you connect to. Still you feel the BUT.
AND, LIVE - Wait for 2 hour tv movie with added scenes. Hope we get raw and Translation
In Love With Eyes of an Ugly Girl - 4/10 Well, everyone has their own standard of beauty. I just don't know from what angle she's ugly. Chubby or Fat for sure but ugly? below avg. shoujo story. dropped
Waiting for 4-Punkan no Marigold - Brother love for sister. ahem and troupe of Illness. Sota Fukushi in so time for more tears.
Shinmai Shimai no Futari Gohan - I'm expecting Sister-in-laws living together manga gets live-action too.
Ore no Hanashi wa Nagai - You and I on the G-String
Neet Bro-Sis as well as Shopaholic Bro-sis demands live-action too. So many good Slice-of-Life Choices and i'm sure they will be able to get the cost easily.
This Japanese Season is so good.
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cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 4:26 AM
KOREAN -
YOO NA'S STREET - 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 - 7.5 out of 10
Started in 2016. Watched 1st 15 episodes in 3 days. Little bit of side characters scenes skip. Then Next 17 episodes in 2 weeks.
2017 - 3 episodes
2018 - 2 episodes.
2019 - 37th Episode start pause start .
2019 September - 37 to 50 within 10 days.
@mary - Because i assume she was involved with proofreading of this show. Once talked about it here.
Such a nice, slow real life show. I dislike side characters of K+CN dramas because most of the time they are fillers. And at times they overtake the main story and main characters but here Side characters actually make the story more realistic.
Curly hair with old wife, Previous street thugs to an restaurant owners. Pickpocket to adulterers aka mistress. Unskilled uncle to growing teenager.
People complained about lack of stealing and i agree with you. they way chit0chat characters put Yoo Na on pedestal and yet we see not much of action. Your Main character calls it Ar and takes pride in it and nowhere we see the display of this art.
Yoo Na's struggle in various episodes and Chang Man the jack of all trades actually frustrate you. Chang Man and Yoo Na annoy you several times but then you reminded that its Chang Man's annoyance that brings Yoo Na out of those emotional and actionable troubles.
Last 5 Episodes are sweet from Romance perspective and at the same time you see the reality of life through Elder.
At one place you see Young Love - You Blood - Sun rise
at other place you get - Sun setting - the catch is Elder has now such a big family that cares about him and loves him unlike all those other elders in resting home.
Beautiful Show - I admit i have skipped many scenes of side characters but I don't feel any character in the show is Unnecessary. of course the show takes such an easy option and such a +ve and nice outcome at end but it goes with the theme of the show that you can move on, you can become better, a part of society.
Episode 50 is so life - simple and uneventful turned to eventful withing minutes.
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cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 4:38 AM
Korean -
Miss Lee - 6.5/10 - Same old story. Still gonna try 2nd week.
Human Rights - 7/10 - almost dropped. It is much more episodic than i had expected. Better create a show where you tell stories of real life ppl and real events. Don't waste time real life stories into fiction. I was right
about this show's HR - major task is just to report. Rest of work is taken by other agencies.
Wagebond - before the show started - Trailers gave away the quality of content. As said last week this show will become bad to worse and it just took 3rd episode to hit a new low. 10% gonna do lot harm to Heroines. Writer completely hammered all the female characters.
Such a disgrace this mindless trash is. This kind of media directly mocks, insults audience and their IQ and that's why audience has to question. MGT gonna say look at ratings as they are only concerned with profits and act irresponsibly but audience share a big part of blame to for not questioning and eating whatever is put on plate.
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cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 5:02 AM
Chinese + thai
ARTH + Melo - 6.5/10 + 7/10 - I enjoyed 24 hours of Arth. And i didn't skip any scene at all. I'm the minority here and i'll play the role of Minority by going with Arth and against Melo.
Arth;s problem lies with its creator and its inception - Scriptwriter. Then 99% of kdrama SR write trash to get paid.
And Arth's SR is no way different from them. he inhabits same traits the other Kdrama SR do. So if you have intention to raise finger at him/her then leave your hypocrisy alone and show courage to point fingers at all other dramas too.
Among Trash even an average product gonna shine brightly. That's what Melo the Mediocre product is. Its good because everyone else is below avg. scrap. Its manufactured identities are at best social apps group chit-chat. full of 1liners, quirky dialogues having no substance. SR isn't competent but looks like one because he/she showed character to insult his/her own brotherhood.
Self-Insert isn't something new, unique, original or refreshing medium of communication. Self-inserts usually are hacks who do better in copy-paste jobs. Their self-depreciation in real is self-appreciation. A way to boost their own esteem. Their frustration comes out as an outburst against everyone in their society. In all Melo is just big wall of Rant of a SR who gave maniacal personalities to his/her characters to look different from her own brotherhood.
TV Media is a business - Aim is to generate Profit. It gives livelihood to 1000s of people. Audience is Customer. Entertainment is a face mask. Arth SR has/had no idea bout Season 2. heck, he.she was thoroughly confused about her main story itself. I find S1 having quite an fitting end shown via the animation. Like those 18 episodes left audience to accept, acknowledge and build their theories, the last outcome allowed audience to come up with their own interesting ideas build through their own imagination.
S2 if any will be just a stamp on all that imagination and ofcourse demands funds. It affect brand and goodwill of many media companies but at last you have to take decision based on data at your hand. You just can't keep on burning money on a half baked product.
Melo - SR likes to mock editor and acts smart but atleast ive seen all this PR tactic more than 15 times in various manga and Light Novels.. So it wasn't surprising or even refreshing for me. Writer claim to make fun of troupes and then he/she hypocritically uses the same troupes form relationships.
This writer would do better job in Sitcoms. She/He has the potential but she also gets carried away quite easily.
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Diraito Teson
September 28, 2019 at 4:19 PM
I agree with you on the ugly girl drama. it was very disconnected and seriously it made me laugh the fact that they called her ugly only cause she's fat. They really are dumb.
As for the rest I'm waiting to see what new dramas we'll get this season 😅
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3 mango
September 28, 2019 at 4:06 AM
Flower Crew: Dropped at episode 3. I just don't feel the story. I can't get attached to the characters, except Kim Soo, and I don't have the time to add a new drama.
- Completed -
Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung: The finale was satisfying and the Crown Prince stayed good (will Park Ki Woong keep playing nice characters after that?). I just hoped more time was spent with some characters, as it felt like the show wanted to quickly go back to its lighter mood (which I loved btw!). The cast, the directing, the music and of course the writer did a good job with this sageuk!
When The Devil Calls Your Name: For me, this drama's strength was the music part. So, I was glad to see the duo at the end and how they keep making music after everything happened.
- Currently watching -
Graceful Family: Caught up. Mo Seok Hee ♥️♥️♥️ She's on fire~ She's on fire~ I love the opening scenes for each episode when they tell a character's "backstory". My favourite one is the actress's because that was too hilarious but at the same time, I felt sad for the eldest brother. He's the most decent sibling (the youngest son too) and I'm sure he can do more that he shows. About the second son's secret, something was off with the studio and wow! I didn't expect that! Nothing should shock me since the fish funeral but damn it, show!
The Great Show: I feel like every week a new obstacle blocks Wi Dae Han's way to politics. I don't want him to go to the "dark force" because the children will be so disappointed.
Melo Suits Me: ep 15. I'm making up my mind and telling myself it's time to let them go.
Natsuzora (Summer Sky): Week 13. Natsu's friend joined the theater troupe to pursue his dream. I thought Natsu would be supportive from the start but it looks like she thought first of his parents. There's nothing in both thinking differently but the outcome was good as he got to do what he wants.
Pegasus Market: Episode 2 not subbed yet.
The Running Mates: This week's episodes were less cheeky than last episodes. I still can't figure out what HRC's function is supposed to be in the show. Are they investigating only cases related to work? Since they dealed with sexual harassment in a workplace and work abuse (there's more to it but let's say that's the core problem).
Secret Boutique: It's the first time I'm still happy even if my ship sank very fast! The show fooled me but I'm glad as it means both of them have a legitimate reason to do what they're doing. I wonder how they will deal with this revelation next episode. Now about Hyun Ji, I like seeing her and Jenny forming a partnership. I can't wait to see them kicking butts!
Walk Into Your Memory: I knew they were going to separate them but I'm confident enough that the main couple will get back together. Come on, it's supposed to be a fun, silly and light show!
When The Camellia...
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 4:07 AM
When The Camellia Blooms: Young Sik is bursting with his bumpkin charms once again this week! I get that Dong Baek finds him burdensome as she never had someone do everything he's been doing for her. He wears his heart on the sleeve and she can tell he's not lying. She clearly needs someone who will embrace her and her son wholeheartedly. That way, I think she can be proud of what she's been doing and how great of a mother she is!
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 4:15 AM
I forgot Hell is Other People! Living in this gosiwon with these weird people isn't good for anyone's mental health. The dentist said he was one of them but isn't being around them that made him like in the latest episode. I even fear for the new resident's life.
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OldLawyer
September 28, 2019 at 11:25 AM
I started watching WHEN CAMELLIA BLOOMS because I am a fan of Gong Hyo-jin – who plays Dong-baek. I have been very pleased with the character of Young-sik. You have hit the nail on the head with your description of him. When you hear people talk in a Kdrama about whether or not someone is sincere this is what they are talking about: Young-sik is sincere. In fact he sets the standard for what sincere should look like.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 12:03 PM
Sincerity is really the word to describe him. It's the best thing to show respect and care to someone.
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Dorotka
September 28, 2019 at 4:22 AM
I dropped Flower Crew during the first ep. I couldn't connect with anything and anyone...
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 4:28 AM
I had doubts since the first episode but wanted to see more of Go Won Hee's character. Well, just like you, I can't connect with anyone or anything.
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Dorotka
September 28, 2019 at 4:44 AM
That's one advantage of Real Life pressure... dropping goes easier 😆😆
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:23 AM
Haha that helps a lot!
Rumi~
September 28, 2019 at 3:51 PM
I didn't like the first episode of flower crew so I watched Ep 2 at ⏩ instead. Didn't like it, dropped.
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mango
September 29, 2019 at 12:02 AM
I gave episode 2 a chance just to see Go Won Hee's character but... errr... I can't bring myself to be interested in the story.
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Rumi~
September 29, 2019 at 6:48 AM
Same.
Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 4:43 AM
As for Graceful Family, I knew it wasn't a woman after she came out 5 mins later. The only thing that threw me off was the shoes on the table were too small, so I thought, that couldn't be it, but there it is.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:25 AM
You have good eyes! I'm not even sure if the shoes really fit him but real logic doesn't apply here.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:19 AM
I think that it's always the same woman who enters and leaves the apartment—she's Wan Joon's personal shopper.
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candycane
September 28, 2019 at 3:43 PM
I have also dropped Flower Crew at ep 3, what a mess and no actor is attractive there. Rookie Historian - yes, a very satisfying ending! Graceful Family is my new crush... But I cannot find anything else to watch now that Rookie Historian has ended... Which drama should I start? Any suggestion please?
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mango
September 29, 2019 at 12:07 AM
If you're looking for a light show, maybe When The Camellia Blooms? There's a murder mystery but the overall atmosphere is heartwarming. Or Secret Boutique if you want an other like Graceful Family which takes itself more seriously?
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4 Blue (@mayhemf)
September 28, 2019 at 4:08 AM
What a great delightful show Rookie Historian was!!
Graceful Family : Yup, still watching it and glad more beanies are picking it up.
Just so much fun it would be a sin to not watch it :))
Great show: I hope we see some growth for male lead because I want to punch him way too often.
Camellia: One word. Kang Ha Neul
Waiting for Extraordinary You / who is picking this up in the US????
Waiting for My Country. Jang Hyuk!!
Want to start Untamed.
Tentative on Melting Me.
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Dorotka
September 28, 2019 at 4:28 AM
Yes, Kang Haneul 😍😍😍
And I'm waiting for Jang Dong Yoon in the Tale of Nokdu 🙂
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 28, 2019 at 4:36 AM
Oh shoot!! Is that premiering this week too???
Adding it to my list :))
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Dorotka
September 28, 2019 at 4:46 AM
Monday... 😊😍
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skelly
September 28, 2019 at 3:38 PM
Great Show is driving me crazy. What does it really want to be? It's got this comedic music and a very sitcom vibe with exaggerated acting and lazy writing - all it needs is a laugh track - but then we are dealing with child abandonment and teen pregnancy and political corruption. This dissonance is just too much for me.
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5 Kairoskat 💐
September 28, 2019 at 4:15 AM
Vagabond: spy extravaganza? I don't know. I'm watching for Ki Tae Woong aka Royal Hotness aka SSR ☕😎.
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6 WishfulToki
September 28, 2019 at 4:15 AM
I completed two dramas this week. Two more beans! 💪🏻💪🏻
1. ROOKIE HISTORIAN GOO HAE RYUNG: A cute rose-coloured jellybean with a juicy filling. A good snack for historians.
2. ARTHDAL CHRONICLES: A shrivelled twisted bean that grew with difficulty in the murky marshlands and was tossed into the desert and left to die.
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cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 5:07 AM
If you have the guts to spend money their hire good writers.
Arth writer - for building the rough idea as well as copy-paste
W writer - for logical fantasy - which usually falls apart in later episodes.
Life Writer - to correct all he errors and merging the worlds created by above 2 writers using rational. He/she can control world fantasy of W writer.
It was so much of chaos that even Horse left the show midway and auditioned for other show, got selected and enjoying days in his own country.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:22 AM
@wishfultoki—I love your bean metaphors! Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryungwas a delicious snack for folks who like history. I love it when shows make me dig into history. Your posts were a treat too!
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WishfulToki
September 28, 2019 at 11:58 AM
Glad you enjoyed my posts! I hadn’t felt the urge to do research in a while. It was fun. 😊
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7 firefly
September 28, 2019 at 4:18 AM
Since Rookie Historian ended this week I wanted to give my farewell to the drama. I started with little to no expectations but it ended up being one of my favorite dramas ever. This was essentially a contemporary drama set in saeguk but the fusion was done well. The modern values which I'm sure were misplaced in the era made it an alternate universe retelling of what could have been if female historians were allowed to exist at that time. The relationship between the female historians was endearing to watch and while I did wish their individual characters had been explored in more detail it didn't stop me from rooting for them. The romance was sweet and the gender reversed tropes not only made it more interesting but also covered up some of the gaps in acting. I came away from this series completely satisfied but at the same time am sad to say goodbye to it.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:24 AM
What a charming, thoughtful show. And surprisingly relevant for "these times."
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firefly
September 30, 2019 at 2:58 AM
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8 Dorotka
September 28, 2019 at 4:19 AM
I checked Pegasus Market and I don't know... I somehow expected more fun? 😆 (Though it could be that the Beanies' comments put my expectations too high...). It is funny, no arguing here... but... I actually laugh more with Camellia's Yong Shik. Kang Haneul is soooo good here! I enjoy every second of his performance 😍 (And Yong Shik's earnestness, straightforwardness and good heart reminds me a lot of Carrot Ironfoundersson, the captain of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch 😀 ).
My favourite show still remains Be Melodramatic and Son Seok Ko is again stealing my heart... his character is so quirky 😀 And I love how he is able to get to Eun Jung.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 28, 2019 at 5:36 AM
Ankh-Morpork !
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Katrina
September 28, 2019 at 6:29 PM
Woot. Another Terry Pratchett lover.!
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:27 AM
Son Seok Ko as Director Yeller-Hugs-Are-Nice-And-Warm is the absolute definition of quirky. He seems like the type of person who's very careful about who he trusts but once he's committed, he goes all in.
SSK has a feline quality I find very appealing. I want to stroke his head and watch TV with him under a fleece blanket.
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thequiet1
September 29, 2019 at 12:31 AM
Agree with you.
Now, let me slip in under the other side of that fleece blanket next to that yummy catguy....
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Dorotka
October 5, 2019 at 4:21 AM
Ehmm, cough, cough... I think I would want to do something else under the blanket... 😈😆
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9 BC
September 28, 2019 at 4:19 AM
Recently I'm "watching" dramas from fanwall and comments. I don't have enough time to waste, I'm quite happy as it is. But I checked briefly When The Camelia Blooms because I love the cast.
Actually I find some time to watch while making dishes or cooking I Live Alone, Begin Again 3 and 3 Meals a Day in Mountains. It's great to watch these shows without any stress possible to occur and learn something new as well.
I love Jackson's Wang new video so much, that I have to watch it at least once per day. 😂
I watched again The Peanut Butter Solutions and I loved it, it could be remade by Benicio Del Toro and it would be perfect. I found out that one of the writers is a czech director and I know now why it's so good and surreal. I remembered it only very briefly and when I found it I was one of the most happy people on earth.
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10 Kurama
September 28, 2019 at 4:20 AM
Let Me Hear Your Song It's finaly over! Ten episodes would have been better because the plot was pretty thin.
Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency I'm happy to see Kim Min Jae in a main role but this sageuk is too modern. I like light and fluffy sageuk but it must remain a sageuk.
When the Camellia Blooms It's very intriguing mixing investigation, creepy murderer and rom-com.
Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung It's sad they felt obliged to add a birth secret in the story. The plot about female historians was very good and office sageuk would have been perfect for me. The all plot with Prince Dowon was useless, like the Prince...
Secret Boutique I like it! The villain is a little bit too a caricature. But the actors are great.
Vagabond The action is good, I have some doubts about the plot.
Be Melodramatic I love this drama!!! The dialogues are so interesting! The ASMR scene was so funny.
Arthdal Chronicles It's not over... and I don't think it's a good thing...
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protect junwoo
September 28, 2019 at 4:23 AM
Omg, I totally feel the same way about Flower Crew and that's why I dropped it. They were asking for way too much suspension of belief for me.
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cat-cric-kat
September 28, 2019 at 4:29 AM
Wagebond has 70s filmsy story with no plot. Mindless entertainment.
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WishfulToki
September 28, 2019 at 4:44 AM
Yes to “office sageuk”! The scenes with the historians were my favourite parts too 😄
Incidentally, I thought I recognised Officer Yang from somewhere and looked him up. It turns out he played the role of Ilchung, the monk in the Amogae Avengers of REBEL: THIEF WHO STOLE THE PEOPLE. He completely changed his voice in ROOKIE HISTORIAN, making it higher pitched and with some kind of accent. The actor (Heo Jung-Do) has great comedic chops. I hated him at first and loved him by the end. 😅
Special shout out to Officer Min played by Lee Ji Hoon. He is so good in sageuks. ❤️ The female historians were good, funny but not unprofessional.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:30 AM
Lee Ji Hoon played a king in The Mirror of The Witch if you haven't seen it. It's a small role but impactful.
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Possum
September 30, 2019 at 12:22 AM
Wow! That’s amazing. I totally didn’t pick that.
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11 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 4:26 AM
Melo Suits Me will end tonight and I honestly don't know what to feel after I've watched the finale episode. For the past two months, I've spent my weekend morning watching this gem and I wouldn't know what to do after this show finishes its run.
Eun-jung's road to healing was rough, but it was wonderful to see her get through her pain and loss with the help of her supportive friends and brother and she now have child-loving Son Seok-goo in her life as an icing on top.
I expected the show to have a love triangle between Jin-joo, Beom-soo, and Hwan-dong but thank God show decided not to go that way. But what we've got in this drama was the amusing love triangle between Writer Jung, EP Sung, and CEO So. I don't know who Writer Jung will choose at this point but I am rooting for her and EP Sung. HAHA
Melo's PPL game is also strong since they make use of the fact that the show is technically a workplace drama that deals with how dramas are actually made and the people behind it. The massage chair PPL from episode 14 was brilliant: they just made a scene without any sense because PPLs have usually no context at all they're just needed. When it comes to being creative, it will be really hard to top this show from Day 1.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 4:34 AM
Rookie Historian: A satisfying ending to a satisfying show. 11/10 for allowing our characters, especially our leads, to do their thing, with Hae-ryung being the awesome historian that she is and Rim being a travel blogger. Bonus: Mommy Woo-woo gets to be a historian again and King Bearded Park Ki-woong.
Let Me Hear Your Song: If being addicted to noble idiocy is a thing then nothing will top this show's nonsense last minute noble idiocy for NOTHING. This show was really good at the creepy department but then decided to drop that and make everyone dumb. YWJ, I love you but please pick better projects after this.
Flower Crew: I'm just watching for the leads. Thank God, the dizzy editing and ugly camera angles are gone by episode 3.
When The Camellia Blooms: Cute Kang Ha-neul and Pil-gu and mysterious serial killer. This show weirdly works for me.
Pegasus Market: Weird first episode but loved it to bits.
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OldLawyer
September 28, 2019 at 11:14 AM
I would describe PEGASUS MARKET as wacky but with some weird moments (seriously- a car wax which grows hair on your car is a smash hit? Not to mention that it is biologically impossible?) . To which I say- accept the weird as part of the charm. This looks to be a seriously funny comedy.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:38 PM
It is seriously funny so far. Haven't seen episode 2 but this just too charming not to watch!
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 28, 2019 at 11:35 PM
Your post gave me hope for Flower Crew. I haven't seen any of it yet, but must for Kim Min Jae. What will we do without Melo to look forward to?
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 29, 2019 at 12:33 AM
I'm not sure if I'll go for My Country and drop Flower Crew for my sageuk drama fill (since I am not really invested in anything there except Soo). Vagabond isn't fulfilling my weekends and I'm just watching it for SSR and LSG.
Or maybe a rewatch of Age of Youth or anything slice-of-life. Ugh. I can imagine my weekends being empty next week :(
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 4:40 AM
Graceful Family: Binged the newest fish cult show and I am not disappointed. A chaotic good female lead? Check! A cute, smart, and kind beta male lead? Check! Addictive family drama? Check! Fun plot and characters? Check! This show isn't the most perfect show since we've got Ms. Han, who is the most mysogynistic person in the whole show albeit being a woman herself, but our female lead, Seok-hee, with her smart brain and chaotic personality, is here to find justice and be the most amazing person in this drama.
Just watch this show NOW and you won't regret this.
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latebloomer
September 28, 2019 at 6:00 AM
Ma'am, yes, ma'am! (Saluting.) I keep hearing good things about this show, and your comment tipped the balance. I guess I'll have to check it out.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Your advantage is that you have more episodes to binge!
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:41 PM
This show is much more fun to binge than to live watch!
SadKDramaLama
September 28, 2019 at 3:45 PM
@lindag
The first 6 episodes are super fun...but once it magically installs our no-experience lawyer into the inner circle of the nefarious high-tech evil organisation (because that's what our plucky duo needs) the drama becomes fast forward junk territory.
There were so many more interesting ways to play this and still keep all the spunky characters and antics. Instead it went the lazy route and for me the show never recovers. Because when ever I hear about how super evil lawyers got to be all powerful it's always because they were naive, lazy and trusting.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:42 PM
You should check it out and don't take the makjang and logic seriously! Warning: the chemistry of the OTP is overflowing and piping HOT!
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OldLawyer
September 28, 2019 at 11:10 AM
I will do that
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:44 PM
Yes, you really should! Hehe! So glad that so many people are discovering this makjangtastic show!
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 4:41 AM
I remember I'm also watching Vagabond for SSR but his character is just... sad. I hope he gets to be happy by the end of this show.
I just realized that I'm watching so many dramas...
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Kairoskat 💐
September 28, 2019 at 5:05 AM
I'm sad his character is sad. Then I remember this was filmed before TLE and Perfume. Maybe the sadness was intentional? Hahahahaha 🤣
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luckyduc
September 28, 2019 at 4:51 PM
Did you see the 2 episodes of Master in the House / All the Butlers with SSK?! They learned how to dance and gave a performance at the end. Hilarious. I liked SSK before - I'd seen him in Liar's Game, TLE, OTW to Airport and Perfume, but I fell for him when I saw him on Butlers. I didn't know he was so funny and affable! Episodes 85 and 86.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgaIx8h1W68&list=PLC4YPtlZPGDWOqgbUUzZ6yZNIZ1kQzAfp&index=32
Also, I didn't know he could sing! Love him.
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luckyduc
September 28, 2019 at 4:56 PM
Wrong link. My bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9XaQ6lw2GE&list=PLC4YPtlZPGDWOqgbUUzZ6yZNIZ1kQzAfp&index=31
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:50 PM
Katak saw that and I watched the clips! Hehe! But thanks for sharing the links so people who are curious about SSR can watch him!
Kairoskat 💐
September 28, 2019 at 8:21 PM
Welcome to the fandom! Hahaha. I've watched the episode~ thank you for sharing the clip for others who haven't~ fyi he's a musical actor. He does musicals before dramas hehehe ☺️
liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:45 PM
They should've aired this before TLE but I probably wouldn't watch this if that happened. At least he looked like he was having the time of his life in TLE and Perfume HAHA
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Kairoskat 💐
September 28, 2019 at 8:31 PM
Same2. TLE changed me 🤣🤣
He did look like he had the time of his life in TLE and Perfume. It's still early maybe Ki Tae Woong is fun too underneath his rigid exterior 😆. From the BTS pics, the VB team seems close and had a jolly good time filming.
Imo..He has good script planning, he was a villain in Return, supposedly good guy in Vagabond but got delayed and a villain again in TLE. Perfume was somewhat a surprise short term project. Hahahahaha.
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 28, 2019 at 5:39 AM
Why is he sad? Why is he always sad?
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:47 PM
Maybe he needs his instant coffee. His character surprisingly does not have intentions of murdering someone in this one so that's why he's sad, probably.
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Kairoskat 💐
September 28, 2019 at 8:33 PM
Yes he needs coffee and maybe a bit of perfume kekeke. Ki Tae Woong has no murderous intent yet though his entrance was super villain worthy. Hahaha
Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 4:45 AM
I totally agree with your summary and I haven't watched episode 16, the massage chair PPL took me all the way out. lmao
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:48 PM
I just watched episode 16 and I have mixed feelings. CAN WE GET A SECOND SEASON FOR THIS WONDERFUL SHOW? The last episode is just this show mirroring and speaking for itself. You'll love it! Hehe
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Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 8:58 PM
Finished it an hour ago, ahhhhh I miss it so. Just perfection in a TV show!!!
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 9:19 PM
Yes! It is perfect! I want more, of course, but it is perfect as it is.
wapz
September 28, 2019 at 8:04 AM
Melo gets all my beans for this year. For creativity, characters, relatability and dialogues (www had good dialogues too but this certainly has better), no show of this year beats it yet.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
September 28, 2019 at 5:49 PM
Well-deserved beans. I'm going to give ALL of the Beans I gained from the bad shows I've finished this year to Melo. Such a creative show filled with love and heart.
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12 Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 4:30 AM
Mother of Mine: (53-54)
Many of the shows I have been watching are at the end of their run and this was one of them. It wasn’t the best nor the worst weekender. I don’t watch these family shows very often. I had once read Javabeans saying there is some comfort in the familiarity of them. I hadn’t understood her then but somehow when this show started I was in the mood for something low key and this fit the bill. The romance wasn’t endlessly frustrating nor passionate and exciting but overall fulfilling. There weren’t many annoying characters and typical of weekend fare most of them were not so annoying by the end of the show. The pacing wasn't bad with a number of unexpected early reveals so it never got repetitive or boring.
I did like some things about the ending: For example Tae Joo’s dad was not completely forgiven and was not allowed to keep his place nor treat people as he used to (cause they won’t take it anymore). I found it interesting that Ji Sook was repeating history by once again raising a son that wasn’t hers by birth. I had worried about poor Tae Ho who had a very small role but was always a sweet and loving child. I wouldn’t have liked him to be raised by that witch but I did like the fact that Ji Sook whose daughter was separated from her completely did not do the same and allowed Tae Ho to see his mother and uncle.
I really didn’t care about the other two sisters’ story much. I was annoyed by Sun Ja’s terminal illness and but they handled the aftermath quite well.
Well done Hong Jong Hyun. May you return with a miniseries before your military service.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 4:35 AM
Arthdal Chronicles: (17-18)
I am so disappointed by Arthdal at this point that I had no desire to read the recaps nor the comments for the final week’s episodes. I understand the desire to extend something that is successful but usually those kinds of stories still have some sort of end planned first. I find it disingenuous to say this drama is 18 episodes and then leave everything hanging without a resolution and announce there will be another season. This is deceiving the viewers. I understand all the financial reasons for it (the sunk costs of the expensive set that’s already built etc.) but announce your plan honestly from the beginning and let the viewer decide if they will watch or not. Whether this is Netflix’s fault or a new trend in Kdramaland I am really annoyed. I stopped watching American, British, Turkish dramas because of the multi season format and the uncertainty that there will ever be a conclusion to the stories but even if there is it is so far into the future that by that time the characters aren’t themselves anymore and the plot drags and things turn makjang….
So, what a disappointment....
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 28, 2019 at 11:37 PM
I think we should be throwing a party, because it's over. Even if there's another season, it's over for many of us.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 4:39 AM
Rookie Historian Goo Hae Ryung (19-20)
This was my third finale of the week. That was a very modern ending! Rim and Hye Ryung “practically living together” but yet unmarried! Princess not married to the Crown Prince anymore!
As unlikely as the ending for many characters were I didn’t mind as the premise of a female historian was a fantasy to begin with. So I was glad things ended exactly as I wanted for most characters. Jin and the crown princess found a way out of their unwanted marriage which made neither of them happy without any beheadings. Rim left the throne to Jin who is showing himself worthy of his uncle and he himself is traveling the country to make up for his years in captivity. And he still writes as well (not as successful in travelogues as romances though)! What would have been better would be if Jin gave the running of Saerewon (or whatever he was called ) to Rim as he is scholarly inclined.
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WishfulToki
September 28, 2019 at 5:09 AM
I think there was at least one beheading but it happened off screen? Some characters were shown in mourning garb...
Overall it was an unlikely ending for a sageuk but in line with the light mood of the drama. I think the story was a utopia of 19th century Joseon, so it ended with a bright promise for the future.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:19 AM
Yes, Counciller Min was beheaded. Sorry, I was continuing my train of thought from last week so I didn't explain well. I meant Jin's marriage was ended without his wife getting killed along with his father in law.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:36 AM
Rim's cheesy set up in the bedroom had me roaring with laughter. NOBODY got married at the end. How amazing is that?!
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Possum
September 30, 2019 at 12:27 AM
That scene caught me by surprise. It was cheesy and a cute at the same time. I had to pause it to have a chuckle.
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candycane
September 28, 2019 at 3:51 PM
yes I am totally for the "practically living together" ending! So modern, carefree... my style of living. Happy.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:00 AM
I had finished my oldie Sandglass last week and @tanizakibadwolf asked for some spoilers, they are on my wall for anyone interested. I forgot to write last week after finishing it that two oldies I am looking for are Jealousy (1992) & Propose (1997). MBC Classics youtube channel has the former with no subs. If anyone has a link with subs please share!
Wonderful Life (1-12)
My current oldie is a contract marriage romcom from 2005 starring Kim Jae Won who isn’t a favorite of mine and Eugene who I find very pretty but haven’t seen in anything else. At the center of the story is a sort of love square. Male lead Han Seung Wan, a pilot in training, goes to Singapore to surprise his girlfriend (and second lead) Lee Chae Yeong on her birthday. His girlfriend is two timing him with a rich guy there, Min Do Hyun. Female lead Jung Se Jin, a diplomat wannabe, also goes to Singapore to say farewell to her first love who had died there some time ago. The leads meet on the way with some unfortunate incidents and are annoyed with each other. Their passports get mixed up at the airport and Se Jin ends up meeting with the second leads in pursuit of her passport Seung Wan has. Seung Wan and Se Jin bond when he helps her in her farewell and she tries to shield him from the knowledge of his girlfriend’s two timing. He ends up learning anyway and they get drunk only to wake up in bed naked together. She wants to talk it through but he runs away.
Back to Korea - we need to bring all the players together again: Do Hyun turns out to be Seung Wan’s sunbae at school, keeps running into Se Jin at odd places and starts falling for her. Do Hyun sees through Chae Yoon and rejects her so she decides to stick to Seung Wan and somehow convinces him that she wasn’t two timing so they continue dating so when Chae Yoon discovers she is pregnant she decides not to tell him. One year later when the parents of both leads (and Seung Wan) learn about the baby they end up marrying with a contract to divorce in 5 years. They move into the house Seung Wan’s parents provide. Do Hyun also moves together with a friend who lives in the same complex.
I like the pacing of the show. Nothing is hurried so there is plenty of story to tell. The initial meeting of the characters, the discovery of the pregnancy, the wedding etc. take several episodes. There are many more developments I watched but just wanted to give a general synopsis of the plot here.
The thing I dislike is an unfortunate feature of the romcoms of this era: Scheming two-timing second female lead who is determined to go after a married man arguing that he was stolen from her when she is the actual two timer and the stupid male lead who keeps getting deceived by her and keeps blaming the female lead. I have no patience for stupid and rude male leads. Chae Yeong’s scheming reminds me of the second female lead of Delightful Girl Chan Yeong. I really like Do Hyun’s second male lead who...
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:02 AM
... provides a very nice contrast to Chae Yeong in being content to watch the person he loves be happy and not scheme to get her.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:41 AM
Heh. The relentless, old-school scheming second FL are a thing to behold. Watching old dramas is like opening a time capsule filled with a lot of crazy.
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PakalanaPikake
September 28, 2019 at 3:34 PM
You can say that again, @tsutsuloo!
"The relentless, old-school scheming second FL are a thing to behold. Watching old dramas is like opening a time capsule filled with a lot of crazy."
And it's 200-proof crazy at that!
When I watched SASSY GIRL CHUN-HYANG (2005) some months back, I couldn't get over the obnoxious 2nd FL, who wouldn't butt out even when the mother of her intended victim (Jae Hee) told her to shove off. She looked vaguely familiar. Omo! Park Si-eun -- who played the sadly dignified Lady Hae in MOON LOVERS: SCARRED HEART RYEO -- a character 180 degrees removed from that earlier role. (That's half the fun of watching vintage dramas -- seeing current favorites early in their careers.)
Even Jang Na-ra as the female lead in MY LOVE PATZZI (2002) carried on almost like the 2nd FL, she was so annoying. The 2nd FL was utterly obnoxious, and spent so much time running around baiting the irascible Patzzi that I wondered how she ever actually got any work done. And she was so sanctimonious about it. Grrrr. Such a conniving buttinski.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 3:36 PM
As much as I loved how cracktastic Shining inheritance was, I couldn't stand how the second female lead was simultaneously "I have no life without you" and "I will destroy your entire world, then you'll have to love me".
Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM
The Second female lead in Wonderful Life isn't as bad as Delightful Girl thankfully and I know to expect such a characterization when I watch dramas from that era (though it still annoys me). What bothers me so much more though is the male lead in dramas. They are perfect examplars for love is blind, they see their first loves through rose colored glasses and accept their word over the heroine's all the time. Not only that but they keep rebuking the heroine for inflicting pain on their love. This absolutely drives me nuts because first they come across as stupid for not seeing through the scheming exes as well as the sincerity of the heroines. They are also very rude to the heroine (another hallmark of old school dramas). So rather than the second lead, the behavior of the male lead who is supposed to be the hero of the story make it impossible for me to root for them.
@leetennant Omo, that's on my to watch list as well, another one to look forward to. Sigh.
Miranda
September 28, 2019 at 8:01 PM
Where did you find Sandglass?! A friend’s been trying to get me to watch it but I can’t find it!
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 8:30 PM
I don't watch streaming side. I downloaded it from a members only website. The name of the site is on my fan wall.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:07 AM
Vagabond (2-3)
Hmmm, I was meh about this show after the second episode. I decided to continue for a while to see if it draws me in but it is not fun enough for me to suspend all logic yet!
I am less enthused in some ways after watching the second episode. On one hand I did like the action scenes of the two leads together because they were hilarious. On the her hand I really disliked the scenes of scheming and plotting politics within NIS and between the business people and politicians. I was sooo bored. So I hope coming episodes there is much more of the former and much much less of the latter. Also Abyss levels of stupidity continues...
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:20 AM
Sorry I meant to say "I am less enthused in some ways after watching the third episode".
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candycane
September 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM
Trust me, ep 3 is worse. Dropped.
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candycane
September 28, 2019 at 3:55 PM
ooops sorry, too fast in reply, didn't even read your correction. yes ep 3 worse and shown in rating. My prediction was right, less action, lower ratings. Both leads cannot act, female lot worse than male. And the "elderly kiss", yuck.
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Moonbean
September 28, 2019 at 5:12 PM
I actually think it wasn't the less action that did it. What I meant above was that the banter of the leads during the action scenes was fun, you don't necessarily need action for that. If you can replicate that in non action scenes you hit jackpot. Constant action would have bored me as well. I actually fast forward most of the action scenes.
The elderly angle of the kiss didn't bother me either. The fact I found unacceptable was that he was shown to be this upright incorruptable man at first. But then he got corrupted so easily and to make the matters worse he sunk so low as to accept that seduction. Really, I cannot suspend my disbelief to this point. Either he wasn't that upright to begin with or he wouldn't have done any of the things he did. Plot holes is one thing to swallow, but inconsistent characters is a whole other level of unacceptable to me.
Regarding what was boring: rather than lack of something (i.e.action) what that was replaced with made it boring to me: very old fashioned political maneuvering that is neither clever nor interesting or enjoyable to watch.
13 Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 4:37 AM
Welcome 2 Life: The ending was a nice conclusion to a rather unremarkable show. I'm just glad Bo Na will be born in the "real" world.
Flower Crew Joseon Marriage Agency: Usually I would dislike this drama. It is generic old school rom com. I don't care I love it, lol. I guess sometimes I just need a cliche ridden show where the conclusion is obvious.
The Great Show: This continues to be heartfelt and thoughtful. The kids were shown less in these pass two episodes though. It is a nice and pleasant show.
Graceful Family: I love this show so much. @leetennant gives a perfect description of the show. So I'll leave that to her.
When the Camellia Blooms: Dropped, I just couldn't get into it. The mumbling I think annoyed me the most.
Secret Boutique: All the players are assembled. Everyone knows their position. One of the secrets is out, I'm here for the revenge fights to begin in earnest. Here we go, also I suspect that the mother is alive somewhere. The Intelligence chief may clean up murders but is probably not one.
Vagabond: This is a 1980's early 1990's Steven Segal movie. I like it. It is just pure fun, the good guys v. the bad guys. Shallow plot and thin premise, but who cares. It should be a fun ride.
Be Melodramatic: DON'T LEAVE MEEEEEE 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 , stay even if the writer has to write more than 600 pages. The nod to a moment at 18 made my heart so happy. The PPL from last week made me laugh so hard. I'm going to miss this show so so much.
Hell is Other People: Dropped, it just wasn't for me.
Pegasus Market: Look forward to episode 2
Melting Me softly: Wooka is BACK, will watch for him, praying this is not another K2, shudder.
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MeloMe
September 28, 2019 at 5:22 AM
Yes to everything melo 😭😭
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:54 AM
Normally, I'm relieved when kdramas end, even if I loved them. With Be Melodramatic ending today, I feel a tinge of melancholy for the first time.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:38 AM
Secret Boutique: I agree Tae Sung isn't a murderer. So, how did the mother survive and where is she? Is it me or is there something going on between him and Ye Nam?
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MeloMe
September 28, 2019 at 6:57 AM
Nope. There's definitely something going on between the two. The show even made it explicit in one scene, I guess you may have missed it.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 9:58 AM
Thanks for confirming. I think I missed the scene but their interactions speak for themselves.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:51 AM
@kafiyah-bello—I fully agree with your summary of Welcome 2 Life. By the end, I was leaning hard on the FF button. (I've also discovered that I really can only do one serial killer-themed show a year. I'm tapped out.) For all its faults, the ending was sweet. I did break into a huge smile as Jae Sang interpreted Shi On's North Star conception dreams to mean Bo Na was coming. That was perfect.
Was the doubling of the family in the last scene a view into the alternative universe? I mean, did Shi On survive the hammer attack?
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Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2019 at 2:05 PM
Shi On may have survived because Jae Song survived his attack and the worlds are parallel. So maybe she survived. Let's hope little Bo Na wasn't left parentless.
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14 gadis
September 28, 2019 at 4:42 AM
gadis is still hopelessly lost in The Untamed world. That's all.
*back to watching Xiao Zhan and Wang YiBo on Happy Camp*
*secretly adding Xiao Zhan's upcoming dramas to my to-watch-list*
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 28, 2019 at 8:00 AM
I would have tried to summon you back in real life @gadis form if I wasn't myself just as lost wandering in the land of the Mo Dao!!
*speaks in tongue in all things WangXian as a living Untamed corpse
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15 dany
September 28, 2019 at 4:46 AM
Flower crew- i am surprised at how much I like the show and the male lead (how come I have never seen Kim min Jae before and never listened to his voice?!)
Secret Boutique- Kim sun ah is fabulous and Kim Jae young is one of the most handsome actors in Korea (still waiting for Eun jo's Room to be subtitled!!)
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16 frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
September 28, 2019 at 4:56 AM
Flower Crew: My least favourite of the previews, despite how much respect I have for Gong Seung-yeon's makeup artist - she doesn't look like she's wearing any!
Secret Boutique: I just want to gobble this show up, omnomnom~
Camellia: Just stunning! Frequently surprised by the extent to which Yong-shik is written, he's just the most compelling character. Also, I love Oh Jung-se and Kim Sun-young, so basically this show gets a 10/10 for casting.
Be Melodramatic: How will I live when this is over? No seriously! I only get through the week because I know this gem comes at the end of it!
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wapz
September 28, 2019 at 7:56 AM
Cries for Be Melo 😢
Seriously it's like a treat for completing the week.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:56 AM
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 10:57 AM
I generally look forward to Fridays, but Be Melodramatic put me in the position of white knuckling it through Friday mornings.😂
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17 protect junwoo
September 28, 2019 at 5:00 AM
Completed:
Rookie Historian Goo Haeryung: And so it ends! I already wrote in-depth about my thoughts re: the finale on my fanwall, so I guess the only think I really have left to say (one more time) is that I'm going to miss this show. I love fusion sageuks and this was such a lovely one. I'll miss seeing our characters, and I'll miss discussing this one with everyone here. Thank you Rookie Historian, for reminding us to believe in ourselves no matter what! I hope the upcoming Tale of Nokdu is just as fun!
Dropped:
Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency: Nah, I just couldn't do it. Can we get a spin-off for Seo Jihoon's Lee Soo though? I'd happily watch that.
Ongoing:
Where the Camellia Blooms: Kang Haneul as wacky country bumpkin Yongsik is just the best thing. What a goofball. I'm finding the mystery intriguing rather than overbearing (thankfully), and I'm invested to see what happens. Looking forward to next week's episodes!
Miss Lee: Interest piqued. I think Hyeri suits roles like this well. Not 100% sold yet, but I haven't watched episode 2 yet so I can't say for sure yet.
I actually had a really busy week at school this week, so I haven't had the time to watch everything yet.
To watch:
-Be Melodramatic
-Pegasus Market
-Melting Me Softly tomorrow!
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:07 AM
Just read your thoughts on your fan page and fully agree.
It's really extraordinary that all the women are still free and working by the series end. Even the Crown Princess is free from a loveless marriage and finishing her three year mourning period dressed like an ear of corn.
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18 rue
September 28, 2019 at 5:01 AM
How am I going to live without Be melodramatic in my life?
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
September 28, 2019 at 6:53 AM
If you find out, let me know! I'm having the same struggle.
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wapz
September 28, 2019 at 7:54 AM
Struggling with this too. And when will a drama breathe life in us again?
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rue
September 28, 2019 at 2:54 PM
We may have to pass the time with duds before another gem comes along.
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19 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 28, 2019 at 5:03 AM
Vagabond: 8.0: Who cares about acting? Story, action, etc are going well. Liked the way the FL investigated sounds. Moderately good eye-candy. BTW, if people are willing to forgive plot holes and inaccuracies (including literal inaccurate shooting) here because it's just supposed to be mindless action/entertainment, then I insist on giving Hotel Del Luna the same slack because it was good mindless IU-fashion-show/entertainment.
Arthdal Carrot Chronicles: -0.00001 Abomination. Netflix wants a 2nd season after THAT ending🤬🙄. In a sane universe only GOOD shows get a season 2.
But what does that have to do with this universe?Actually the Momos, Agos & new cast deserve better, but they aren't enough to outweigh the old leads, script, lighting, iron-in-the-bronze-age, lack of conclusion, etc, etc.Pegasus Market: 7.3 What? WHAT!?
Welcome 2 Life: 5.0 For the final week. Earlier was better.
When the Camellia Blooms: 6.2 The neighborhood ladies are so obnoxious and unpleasant to watch -- can we please just get on with the serial killings?
Miss Lee: 4.0 I hope/expect it to get fun when they turn things around, but the downward-spiral phase is just depressing and not really worth suffering thru unless they make it a LOT better later. (FWIW, I've never seen a Hyeri show I liked, and I've dropped all but one of hers I've started).
Running Investigators: 5.4 Investigation this week was rather slow & plodding, but I've seen worse.
Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung: 6.5 Liked it, although not as much as many other Beanies. But more kdramas should have a Greek Chorus like the prince's 2 maids.
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bong-soo
September 28, 2019 at 7:30 AM
@lordcobol,
VAGABOND, check;
ARTHDAL CC, check; but
CAMELLIA, the obnoxious neighborhood ajummas (who probably changed Yong-sik’s diapers lol) redeemed themselves in my mind ever so slightly when they tried to get him to cool it when he was loudly making his love for Dong Baek known while his mom was in the shop in hearing distance. That was a great scene. Now everyone knows where they stand (so far).
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 28, 2019 at 11:48 PM
I thought the ending of Welcome 2 Life was wonderful, but I was totally focused on the family and not on the murder aspects. The crime portion of the drama was meh but I loved watching Jae Sang's and Shi On's characters change.
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20 shach
September 28, 2019 at 5:11 AM
Out of new dramas only Secret Boutique truly pulled me in, the set for the story is intriguing, characters interesting and good actors, I like that the most power players are women. I'm on the fence with Camellia Blooms I love Kang Haneul acting in hear, but I don't buy Gong Hyo Jin portrayal of DongBeak and I despise, really despise the neighborhood witches and don't really care about rest of the characters, I checked Miss Lee but it's not something I'm in mood for right now, although I think Hyeri was really decent in opening episodes. Melo waits for me to finish all the Chinese dramas and the rest was pretty meh.
On to Chinese dramas: the real gem that is The Longest Day in Chang'am keep getting better, and action getting faster and faster, I love to finally have plot driven drama! Not that I don't love those more character based, after all I got sucked in Ashes of Love but those are rather guilty pleasures that I would have to think twice or thrice before recommending them to anyone. I started Mr Fighting because of Beanies positive reviews and after watching Sandra Ma in "Soulmate" it low key, slice of life drama, I like main characters from the get go. Taiwanese drama "The Fearless" solid supernatural mystery, small time gangster gets shot in the head, starts seeing ghosts, inherits funeral home and teams with plucky forensic examiner to solve crime, good acting, interesting stories.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 5:41 AM
I've been curious about The Fearless so I'm glad to read your comment! I might check it out soon.
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shach
September 28, 2019 at 6:15 AM
It's worth checking imho, I noticed that production quality of non Korean dramas really jumped up in recent years, and this one has cinematographic quality to it.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 10:02 AM
Good to know! The Jdrama And, Live has one episode shot in the Philippines (I presume it's really the Philippines) and the directing was really good.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
Yes! The Fearless is good and I really liked it. I initially watched it live without subtitles. Watching with GoogleTranslate was not great and I was thrilled when subs became available shortly after it concluded.
The paranormal procedural elements are balanced with the personal growth of the two leads, who endure somewhat parallel traumas. Their deepening friendship (with the faintest hint of romance) is low-key but satisfying.
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mango
September 28, 2019 at 12:04 PM
It sounds like the type of show I enjoy. Thanks a lot for your comment!
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Lixie
September 28, 2019 at 8:54 AM
It's a surprise but I'm not buying Dongbaek either. I love GHJ so I'm blaming the writer. I don't understand how she can be so meek with the women but stronger around police and the landlord, I don't get why she would open a bar if there is so much prejudice unless she was more prepared to fight against it and stand her ground. It seems a bit like lazy writing.
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shach
September 28, 2019 at 9:12 AM
Yes, I would get if she was timid and shy but not letting bullies get to her and just living her life but she cowers and try to placate them and yet various characters describe her as strong woman who stand for herself but we as a viewers are shown completly different DongBaek, it's really hard to fathom how she survived six yrs in that place.
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21 YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 28, 2019 at 5:46 AM
I'm not watching a single drama. I am writing my own. Cackling here with demented laughter. BUT I would like to continue
Mother of Mine
A Moment at 18
The Untamed
May watch Vagabond for SSR
Looking forward to
My Country
Hyun bin's Spy Drama...are spies the new thing?
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:16 AM
Has it been a slow build-up? There's so much potential for good TV—they're sexy, they get to wear nice shoes and travel to exotic locations!
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CS
September 30, 2019 at 8:36 AM
I love that a characteristic of spies is that they wear nice shoes. :) Who wouldn't want to watch people walking around in nice shoes??
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Kairoskat 💐
September 30, 2019 at 1:06 AM
Watch vagabond YY. Watch it. Hop on the plane. Haha
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
September 30, 2019 at 5:08 AM
You know what? I actually think I will. I like LSG, I loooooveeeeee SSR, and am indifferent to Suzy. It's all good.
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WishfulToki
September 30, 2019 at 8:19 AM
But is Hyun Bin a professional spy? He'll play a North Korean army officer who one day has heiress Son Ye-jin crash land into his life. I kind of wish he'll be bad as a spy and she'll re-enact all the scenes she learned from spy movies.
@bbstl we're so ready for this right?
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22 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
September 28, 2019 at 5:47 AM
Welcome 2 The Untamed
Let Me Hear Wangxian
Flower Boys: Wuxia Marriage Agency
When the Lotus Blooms
Rookie Disciple of Gusu-Ah Yuan
Secret BL
Melting Us Softly
Be Romantic
Beautiful Love, Wonderful Drama
The Great Show
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Jenmole🍊
September 28, 2019 at 6:14 AM
🤣🤣 May I ask if the above shows have subs for international fans?
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Giegie
September 28, 2019 at 6:55 AM
And where can I watch them??? LOL
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gadis
September 28, 2019 at 6:33 AM
These titles sound really tempting. Is the subtitle available??
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
September 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM
@jenmole @gadis @giegie0384
At rabbit 🐇, of course!
I missed those days when @kimbapnoona did her live translations. But I got a feeling she would be mostly incoherent in this one!
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🍙 kimbap noona
September 28, 2019 at 7:56 AM
I would argue real time squeeing is very appropriate as part of the translation these dramas, @outofthisworld.
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Giegie
September 28, 2019 at 6:54 AM
Secret BL 😂
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Linda Palapala
September 30, 2019 at 8:36 AM
Cleverly disguised BL. I mean really, what did they do that month that Wei Ying stayed at Cloud Recesses while waiting for the Discussion at the Jin's?
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Giegie
September 30, 2019 at 9:54 AM
Read WY’s book collection. 😉
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Mel
September 28, 2019 at 10:09 AM
👏👏👏
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23 sorrynotsorry
September 28, 2019 at 5:48 AM
Rookie Historian: This drama worked well for me as a fun fusion. The pacing was done quite well and it deserved its 20 episodes. Usually, I am wishing a drama was 4 to 6 episodes shorter but not this one.
When the Camellia Blooms: This drama could go either way. I feel like they could have done a nice slice of life 12 episode show without a serial killer being involved so we'll see. I will say it's working better for me than Strong Woman which also blended romance and serial killer...it's just a hard needle to thread.
C-drama: Love and Destiny: I haven't been hooked on a c-drama since MingLan but really enjoying this one though it has the same elements of other fantasy dramas. I'm loving the characters and, so far, not much filler but I have 40 episodes to go so there's plenty of time.
Let Me Hear Your Song: I'm half done and put it on hold. Anyone finish this one up? It it worth continuing.
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latebloomer
September 28, 2019 at 6:13 AM
If you are halfway through, you could basically skip to the last episode without missing much. Or next-to-last. Seems like most of us who hung in there aren't sure why we did, and are glad it's over.
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sorrynotsorry
September 28, 2019 at 3:26 PM
I'll probably go this route. Thanks.
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bong-soo
September 28, 2019 at 7:41 AM
Hi @sorrynotsorry how have you been?
There is a lot of anticipation here (among sageuk fans anyway) for the upcoming MY COUNTRY. Is MC on your radar at all?
A lot of us have high hopes for this one.
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sorrynotsorry
September 28, 2019 at 3:26 PM
I usually have historicals on my radar as I came into k-drama via a sageuk. I'll be looking this over.
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Ally
September 28, 2019 at 7:59 AM
I dropped LMHYS as well at ep 22. Followed recaps for the rest. Seemed like they forgot about the insomnia and the mystery around Ian’s death was too superficial for me to continue. And the girl got annoying.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:22 AM
I'm casually watching Love and Destiny and Ni Ni is ridiculously adorable in this role. Jing Xiu (the morally ambiguous bald guy) needs some erotic fan fiction stat.
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sorrynotsorry
September 28, 2019 at 3:29 PM
Yeah, I agree about the "bald guy". Ha! I really didn't even know his character's name so the description is perfect. Ni Ni is great in this.
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24 coolgirl
September 28, 2019 at 5:54 AM
Alone in love:
The end left me in a state of shock. I had hope for a happy ending and felt like a fool for holding on such belief : how could the end be anything but bittersweet based on the tone of the drama?
The last 3 episodes had a spectacular writing, especially the last one which was for me the best episode of all the drama.
I'm trying hard to not spoil, so let's just say the idea of the train trip was really powerful and well executed and elevated the drama by the parallels that it draws on a symbolical level with few myths about love and death.
Eun Ho 's despair and Dong Jin's determination to save her and give her a chance to be happy made them look like a new modern version of Orpheus and Eurydice.
However Dong Jin's obstination in ignoring his feelings to the very end was very frustrating to watch: he made a mess of his life and the ones of the women involved with him in a way that made it hard to root for his happiness.
Eun Ho could have been a very unlikable character in the hands of a less talented actress than SYJ. A character who was all along so dependent on the love of one specific man. But SYJ was stellar in this role, especially in the second half of the drama in which she creates a full empathy for her character with her subtle acting, showing a large range of emotions. Every scene where she appeared was a moment of grace.
Her chemistry was strong with all the cast and i loved a lot her relationship with her sister (LHN did very well here and the end of her character left me crushed).
It wasn't a feminist drama but it was clearly a women story. I loved how the female characters helped and supported each other despite their difference in personality and looks.
The drama was perfection from the start to the end. It's the only way to do romance for me: true to life to the point to be painful to watch for the audience.
It didn't shy away from taking risks: it was slow, mature, contemplative, without major conflict or villain, with long monologues, lot of sad memories from the past, not many events in the present and little hope for the future but still was inspirational.
It left me wanting to hold on on every small moment as a if it was a precious and rare thing.
A+ drama but definitely for older audience: to appreciate fully the lessons that is teaching, notably why people we love hurt us often the most and how complex it's to say who was wrong or right, it's better to have already experienced love, loss and betrayal.
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25 javinne
September 28, 2019 at 6:05 AM
On hold:
Rooky historian
Don't know why it takes me so much to pick it up again😅😩😅
Dropped:
The great show😐
Too much politics and less children, so I am disappointed. Maybe I will come back at the finale just to see what happened at the end, but I am not that much interested in the development of the show.
Finished:
A moment at 18
Men, how did I cry! 😭
I am proud of this show. At the beginning I was so upset with so much injustice but at the end I was rewarded with a mixture of realism, idealism, love and flexibility. The show didn't give me a happy ever after, because how can that be possible when these kids are only 18 years old?? But it was cute to see how they matured in a year, and also... I really felt their performances, I cried when they cried, yes,, even Ma Hwi-young... I also felt I could forgive him at the end, and I understood where he was coming from... poor boy!
I cried so much with Soo bin because she was like a baby and so compassionate and sensitive! Beautiful.
And I also cried with Joon-woo, when he suffered in silence.
I know it seems I like to cry, but it depends actually... I like dramas that make me cry for the right reasons. This drama made me appreciate goodness, and I loved that. I saw a good mother, a good teacher and few good students and friends. Sometimes in real life I don't get to know so many good people at the same time😅
That is why I recommend this drama.
Repeated:
Prison playbook
What can I say? I cried again. Although, I had to fast forward lots of parts, I also rewatched 70% of it in couple of days off I had and I cried and laughed again. Wonderful cast, very very good production. Highly recommendable. 😀
Wishing list:
Miss Lee I like Hyeri
Pegasus Market I like Kim Byung-chul
Melt me softly I love Wooky😍
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Ally
September 28, 2019 at 8:04 AM
Maybe you’re not emotionally invested in the characters in RH. I liked it, but I really have a connection to it. It was good though, so I hope you finish it!
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javinne
September 29, 2019 at 2:51 PM
I was! I totally was, but because of work I couldn't watch anymore, and now I have to remember. But yes, I will finish it, because I liked it very much.
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26 Pennyroyal
September 28, 2019 at 6:31 AM
Finally continuing NOKDU FLOWER while waiting for MY COUNTRY and the GIRL STUCK IN WEBTOON drama (which' s name I can't remember 😂)...I've lost count of how many times I keep saying "wow this show is unbelievably great !" In my head wild watching every episode ...I can't even describe how much I love it in words...And now I found a reason to watch SIX FLYING DRAGONS too ... the only thing I CAN say right now is that I hope Yoon Si Yoon gets more serious roles ,he is really great and I didn't expect that..
Still watching FLOWER CREW despite how annoying it is getting ( it was a FUN CLICHE for me at the start but is starting to get on my nerves )...but there are two things I'm sure of : first ...I need GSY 's smile (and kim min jae's deep voice )because I'm not so happy these days ...And second ....the pour king makes my heart flutter ...And I'm not sure for how long I'm going to keep watching the drama because of what I mentioned above😂
Rewatching ROMANTIC DOCTOR with my sister and finding it even better than the first time(And realizing what a great acttress SHJ is for the hundredth time ...And how hot YYS is for the thousandth time😂) ..this drama is amazing...can't wait to see my all time ahjussi crush HAN SUK KYU as teacher Kim again in the second season !
Side note about how surprised I am about hearing PSH and Cho seung woo getting a Sci-fi drama offer ...I don't think he's going to accept ..(I hope so because the PD is....)
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27 Ally
September 28, 2019 at 6:49 AM
Just checking in to ask if everyone caught the meta-reference for Goblin/Gong Yoo fans in Camilla blooms this week? I just wrote about it here: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/09/open-thread-623/#comment-3527297
And Rookie Historian’s finale was not very historically accurate—as none of it was—but highly satisfying! I’m glad everyone got their just rewards! I’m thinking Hae-ryung’s oraboni is the head of the intellectual school now, but would have liked to see new students learning there at the end. Have a great weekend everyone!
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28 MikeyD signed up
September 28, 2019 at 6:51 AM
That massage chair PPL in 'Be Melodramatic' last weekend was the best thing ever. Also, it was soooo meta when they cast the lead actress for the show's drama with an actress who looked exactly like the lead actress in the show. A series about a writer doing a series about a writer doing a series.
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29 PMSahjumoni
September 28, 2019 at 6:52 AM
Flower Crew - I couldn't get into Rookie Historian but I like this a lot. It's a light fun romp and Kim Min Jae is selling it so hard, I'm on board with everything.
Vagabond - I don't get why Suzy gets so much hate. I liked her in While You Were Sleeping and I like her here. Her acting doesn't bother me. The episodes go by fast enough too. Everything is well set up.
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Nonso
September 28, 2019 at 7:42 AM
Its not that people hate her. its her acting we dislike . She's expressionless. I personally like her. She's gorgeous and all that.
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zzthorn
September 28, 2019 at 8:10 AM
@pmsahjumoni "on Suzy" the reason I don't care for Suzy is because her performance takes from the credibility of the story and other actors. In parts of ep 3 of Vagabond, she was giving her character the freedom to be silly/playful and "cute" when Lee Seung gi's character was going through far more complex and serious emotions. His performance was excellent, but with Suzy as his background, that performance was dulled and made weak. What a waste. This is not a RomCom. Why is Suzy going for the "see how cute I am" behavior? She just does not appear to be a serious intelligence officer in the least. I'm going to watch ep 4 this weekend, but seriously am considering dropping this based on the lack of credibility Suzy brings to it. I liked the action but I am not going to like the romance at all with these two because it will be too contrived.
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Nonso
September 28, 2019 at 9:31 AM
I know nothing about acting but I believe every character has a script to follow. Don't blame her for acting all cutesy. She was written to act like that.
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zzthorn
September 28, 2019 at 10:30 AM
There's way more to it than just following a script. That's why some actors seem to be like completely different people in different roles and other actors are clearly the same people just using a different name and wardrobe. Their traits follow them from role to role.
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bong-soo
September 28, 2019 at 7:29 PM
@zzthorn,
I agree with your take on episode 3. Ok it is only episode 3 but the lack of gravitas of Agent Go Hae-ri (Suzy), even though a rookie, is distracting.
I am not exactly sure of the time sequence but almost within 24 hours Dal-gun is almost killed in an assasination attempt and a junior officer at the Embassy is shot and subsequently dies by suicide and then we have this strange scene in Hae-ri’s apartment where she is I guess making cute. It didn’t work for me.
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FlyingTool
September 28, 2019 at 7:39 PM
I don’t think she’s a rookie. She’s supposed to be in her 30’s according to a cast relationship chart floating around. Even with some time off after college, that leaves plenty of time in service to not be a rookie. And in her conversations with her supervisor, it’s clear they’ve had enough cases and run in’s with higher NIS management to be considered the black sheep of the family.
As for her acting,mi would really like to be on set long enough to find out if the writer and director asked her to act as we see on the screen or if that’s all she can do.
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bong-soo
September 29, 2019 at 6:11 AM
You make a good point. I was also thinking that maybe she is following the script to a tee. So it is still early days and it will be interesting to see the characters develop.
O/T. Maybe in contrast but for some reason the character of NIS Agent Han Na-kyung (Kang Ha-na) in DS: 60D came to mind. She was all business. Then again she had a personal connection to the disaster in that drama.
PMSahjumoni
September 28, 2019 at 8:22 PM
@zzthorn I haven't seen episode 3 but I can understand what you're saying about Suzy's acting. I had just thought that her character was supposed to be a ditzy agent.
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30 Edgar Pordwed
September 28, 2019 at 7:09 AM
I am loving When Camellia Blooms! The highlight of the latest episodes was when the second lead was eating her stir fried pork after so many years and he ate so much! The way he was eating it! I've been craving that ever since, even typing this right now I'm hungry!
I'm thinking that Dong-baek is going to fall for Yong-shik sooner than later!
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bong-soo
September 28, 2019 at 7:55 AM
@edgarpordwed,
Lol, Jong-ryeol (Kim Ji-Seok) plowed through that serving of stir fried pork like he was a teenager (with a bottomless pit). He is an athlete after all and food is definitely an “issue” with his wife. (I almost wrote second wife!)
Now that JR knows he is the father of little Pil-goo paternal feelings have been stirred up and he obviously wants to get involved in the boys life, but how?
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zzthorn
September 28, 2019 at 8:18 AM
Since we are given many hints that Jong-Ryeol has never gotten over Dong-baek and she was the love of his life, it seemed almost as if the stir fried pork represented his long desire (hunger) for her and finally the possibility of having her again (he wouldn't be able to stop himself yet...) (although there very likely is absolutely no possibility of that)
I do feel a little bit of compassion for him and keep saying a tiny prayer "don't let him be the killer"
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Edgar Pordwed
September 28, 2019 at 9:30 PM
I somehow I feel his storyline will only focus on his relationship with his son. I could be wrong.
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31 Nonso
September 28, 2019 at 7:32 AM
ARTHDAL CHRONICLES: I'm not disappointed with the way it ended because season 2 Is coming.
ROOKIE HISTORIAN: One of the best for me to this year. What happened to the king. Did he die or was he banished. Hae ryung and do won started living in sin😂😂.
FLOWER CREW: Dropped it in episode 3. Wasn't feeling it. If its recapped, I'll read. If not,🤷🏾🤷🏾
VAGABOND: 😍😍😍😘😘😘😊😊😊😊👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾❤❤❤❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾🤗🤗🤗🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾(using emojis to convey my feelings)
MELTING ME SOFTLY: Premiers today ba. I'll give it a shot.
THE GREAT SHOW: Honestly can't remember what happened this week. Gotta rewatch
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Nonso
September 28, 2019 at 7:34 AM
WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS: Also dropped it in episode 2.not really into KHN and GHJ
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Linda Palapala
September 30, 2019 at 8:39 AM
Flower Crew: I started watching for Seo Ji hoon, the blacksmith. But I got really tired of the leader of the Flowers and the girl getting all the screen time. They were thrown together in almost every scene, have zilch chemistry. I started ff to just the SJH scenes, but could not find even one scene he was in in ep 4. Dropped. Looking for other SJH dramas.
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Nonso
October 2, 2019 at 4:20 PM
I've been asking who the male lead is and nobody Is sure. The drama is supposedly about the king asking the flower crew people to turn the love of his life into a noble lady. That's not what they are acting. KMJ acting is off. SJH is hardly shown. The leading lady gan is just something else
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Linda Palapala
October 2, 2019 at 4:37 PM
Vagabond has the most incompetent assassin in the world.
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Nonso
October 3, 2019 at 4:40 AM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He's being bested by a stunt man and a novice. Lets wait to see the abilities of lily
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32 riverj
September 28, 2019 at 7:35 AM
I finally got on the BeMelo boat and love it. I'm not sure how to gush about this drama that is just so realistic it's comforting and a bit aching at the same time. How does writernim know my favorite thing to do is to lie down on my couch just like Jin Joo, or the feeling of missing someone so much it hurts like Eun Joo, or just like Han Joo's character longing to when she can dress up, be pretty and go out with someone she likes. It brings such a strange comfort to know that somewhere out there in the world, some other adults in their 30s are also going through the same struggle. And as the title of the drama Jin Joo is writing, I hope things will be fine in my 30s.
Would it surprise you to know the writer and director is actually a man who also directed the blockbuster Extreme Job. How does he know?
I understand why the rating is low, but wish it wasn't. You deserve so much more Be Melo!!!
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:28 AM
I share your feelings about the show and suspect that Be Melodramatic is doing well online and there seems to be a lot of buzz about in Naver. I know that the stations care about Nielsen ratings first and foremost but I hope local on-demand viewers are considered.
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MikeyD signed up
September 28, 2019 at 9:44 PM
The characters discussing the show-within-a-show said they weren't expecting high rating but they would probably get critical attention and be a showcase for the actors, especially the second lead female whose role had a better hook than the lead's. This drama is so meta.
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33 shichybot
September 28, 2019 at 8:10 AM
#BeMelodramatic to #BeMelancholy because the drama is ending!!! 😭😭😭 They missed the storyline with the gay brother. Can there be Season 2 and let us have more Bum Soo and Jin Joo being adorably weird together?
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 11:50 AM
I've had mixed feelings about Hyo Bong's character, who's really the best brother, surrogate uncle and roommate. What's the value of making HB gay? Overall, it felt really half-hearted.
The good
1) Hyo Bong isn't a tragic character. His sexuality is accepted by his sister, roommates and colleagues.
2) He seems to be in a healthy, drama-free relationship.
3) It felt realistic that that his parents might have a problem with his sexuality but we don't really know their stance.
The bad
1)There are over a dozen romantic/semi-romantic pairings in this series, including ex-lovers, deceased partners, and work flirtations. We know of this one gay couple because of EXPOSITION but they were barely presented as a couple, save for two short scenes of them hanging out.
2) I didn't understand the scene where Hyo Bong and his boyfriend were asked to leave the restaurant. They were just two dudes sitting at a table so I don't know what was happening. Something about them being on TV?
3) I would've been fine with fewer scenes of the toxic girlfriend and more scenes of Hyo Bong doing normal couple-y activities with his partner (shopping for clothes, cuddling while watching TV, brushing their teeth)
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okiejune
September 28, 2019 at 2:04 PM
The scene where Hyo Bong and his boyfriend were asked to leave the restaurant was one of the ones that really got me in this episode. The owner knew they were a gay couple and didn't want them in his restaurant, but wouldn't even interact with them directly. He sent the waitress (you could see that she felt really bad about it) over to tell them to leave. Then Hyo Bong says that he has lost a restaurant that he really liked - i.e. he can't go back there again. I felt bad for them for quite a while after that scene and after the episode. One of many ways this show got to me :'(
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:24 PM
You make a good point about the show effectively demonstrating the microaggressions Hyo Bong and his boyfriend had to endure.
I was confused about how the owner know they were a gay couple. The waitress said something about one of them being on T.V. but I didn't understand the context.
I "lost" our neighborhood BP (British Petroleum) when they profiled me because of my appearance. I had dropped by to get ice cream and the clerk barked at me the moment I stepped through the door. He said that the alcohol was in the far corner. I was so confused that my ears refused to understand what he said.
Me: "Wha? I'm here for—"
Clerk: "The al-cohol is in the far corner!"
Me: "I don't under—wait, what?!"
Clerk: "You want alcohol, right? (points) It's right there!"
Random customer: "He said that the booze is in the last aisle."
Me: "But I don't drink. I don't understand what's happening. I came here for chocolate chip ice-cream and I'm gonna to leave with nothing."
I didn't go back for five years, until they got new owners. Dealing with prejudice is death by a thousand cuts.
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okiejune
September 28, 2019 at 7:07 PM
Yes, I didn't understand the context either!
Sounds like a horrible experience with the BP - it's really the pits when the actions of an ignorant person ruin an experience or place.
Linda Palapala
September 30, 2019 at 8:42 AM
I'm a little confused - are you all discussing Be Melodramatic?
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34 missjb
September 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM
I'm watching Tazza in theatre this week, and Park Jung Min looks so damn HOT in it. He is just so good. The movie turn too violent for my taste at the 2nd half of the movie. Does it necessarry? But all in all, very entertaining movie because of the twist and turn they provide.
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kiara
September 28, 2019 at 3:31 PM
I lup him!. He is so underrated in dramaland.
Watch "Dongju: The Portrait of a Poet." He stole the show from Kang Ha-neul.
I want to watch "Sunset in My Hometown" with Kim Go-eun.
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missjb
September 28, 2019 at 3:44 PM
I want to watch both movie. I have watched Sunset In My Hometown since it has Kim Go Eun. And I'm waiting for tune in for love available on netflix. I have yet to watch Dong Ju.
Park Jung Min is too damn hot in Tazza. I want to stopped watching when the movie start to violent, but I can't take my eyes of him and the movie just has that addicting factor. How can he be this HOT? Omg.
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kiara
September 28, 2019 at 4:12 PM
I always thought he was a gem in the acting department but not a looker.
If you are saying he is hot in TAZZA then I better watch it soon haha.
Did you like SUNSET?
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missjb
September 28, 2019 at 5:41 PM
I wouldn't thought he will be this HOT, until I watched Tazza. I think more than his looks, it's his mannerism, the way he act his char and his body language. It looks sexy. He has kissing scene too.
I like sunset. He has good chemistry with Kim Go Eun.
kiara
September 28, 2019 at 5:48 PM
OK I'll watch SUNSET first then TAZZA. Thank you <3.
I started Diego Luna movie marathon but I'll put it on hold for Park Jung-min.
missjb
September 28, 2019 at 8:10 PM
@kiara haha I'm in the process of Park Jung Min marathon right now. Did you know where I can watch Dog Ju in live streaming website? I also planning to watch Keys to the heart with Lee Byung Hun.
kiara
September 28, 2019 at 9:24 PM
It's at viki.
https://www.viki.com/videos/1115897v-dongju-the-portrait-of-a-poet
missjb
September 28, 2019 at 10:17 PM
@kiara : thanks
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kiara
September 28, 2019 at 10:56 PM
YW :). Enjoy!
35 ladyjaye
September 28, 2019 at 9:15 AM
I've only watched one drama recently, the jdorama I DON'T LOVE YOU YET, and what a gem it is! Love, love, love!
It was a wonderful portrayal of friendship, and love. I did hve a few issues - re the reasons for breaking up with the jerk boyfriend (she shoulda left because he was a jerk that kept trying to erase her personality and agency, and not just bc she was in love with someone else), and I thought the male lead could have stood to braver, and the female lead should've stopped the wedding farce before it got that far. I also would have liked to see more of the best friends exoring their love, but all in all, what a wonderful and wonderfully tender drama. 8/10.
My heart was full after watching it. It's now my second favorite (romance) jdorama of all time.
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Bob
September 28, 2019 at 9:24 AM
It was realistic, though, watching the woman you like fall for the WORST GUY, The guy with all the big red flags waving THIS IS A MISTAKE! An old joke of mine is when women friends say 'All men are the same' I reply 'You think that because you keep dating the SAME GUY over and over.'
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ladyjaye
September 28, 2019 at 9:34 AM
I loved that the male lead was very self-aware the entire time, even about the "cowardice" of his inability to tell her about his love. This might be my most favorite beta male ever.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:26 PM
Very astute observation.
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Linda Palapala
October 2, 2019 at 4:41 PM
Is there another name for I Don't Love You Yet? Or can you tell me the lead actor's name?
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Linda Palapala
October 2, 2019 at 4:45 PM
Never mind - I found it. Was what I thought it was. That drama has been remade in every Asian drama! I loved China's take "The Evolution of Our Love" and I'd like to see the Taiwan version too. If I watch the j-drama and the t-drama then I'll have seen them all!
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36 halfmoon
September 28, 2019 at 10:15 AM
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13infamyss
September 28, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Same halfmoon, I wasn’t that bothered with Gun and Squid’s age gap in the drama (Go Go Squid) but I did in the novel. Still, nothing beats how I was totally taken a back by Xi Song and Mi Do’s age gap. I wish they didn’t show us of their first meet.
They still have cute scenes together though, so I’m still watching. I thought it was nice of Xi Song to swap meals with her when it turned out she didn’t like what she ordered cluelessly.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:28 PM
The actors are three years apart. What was their fictional age gap?
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halfmoon
September 29, 2019 at 1:34 AM
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Giegie
September 30, 2019 at 9:48 AM
She’s 19 and he’s 29 or 30.
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tsutsuloo
September 30, 2019 at 10:15 AM
Yeesh.
37 nightmoon
September 28, 2019 at 10:47 AM
Currently Airing
VAGABOND: Not quite as good as the first episode. To be honest, I’m not caring for Suzy’s character here. I was hoping she would be a skilled, cool-headed female lead. But she’s… not. I did really like the twist near the last 7 minutes or so about the pilot conversation. Didn’t expect that. (ep. 2)
WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS: Like the first half of episode 1 but the flashbacks and time skips weren’t very well done, IMO. I’m not really caring for GHJ’s character either. Honestly, this has been the lowest I’ve ever rated a premiere ep., I think. May not continue. Or should I? (ep. 1-2)
Completed Dramas
HER PRIVATE LIFE: It’s a fun rom-com with some great chemistry. This was my fourth Park Min-young drama, and I have to say that her chemistry with Kim Jae-wook was so natural. It very much felt like this could be a real couple.
I do wish that more time had been spent on side characters. Once the romance really began, I got kind of bored. And then they threw in some weird and random plot twists at the end.
Also the fangirling aspect, which made this drama so fun and interesting, was glossed over as the drama went along. Maybe this was an issue of the writers and directors not wanting to take too much of a stance against it, as S. Korea very much includes this aspect in their entertainment. (ep. 16)
So yes, I do recommend this drama, but don’t expect a lot. *3.5 out of 5 stars*
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:32 PM
I might never finish Her Private Life. I enjoyed the series until the crazy plot twists in the last two episodes. Despite the absurdity of a lost-child-getting-adopted-storyline because I guess Korea doesn't have police officers, the spark between the two leads was scrumptious.😉
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nightmoon
September 28, 2019 at 4:33 PM
How much of the drama do you have left, then?
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:53 PM
I skipped the last two episodes. Or rather, I skipped the drama with the FL's mom and caught the very last bit of the last episode. I kinda went into a rage because of how children in kdramas are often have zero agency. As a parent, I found this plot twist infuriatingly nonsensical and couldn't stomach another minute. But the OTP was fantastic.
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nightmoon
September 28, 2019 at 5:02 PM
Yes, I quite agree with the OTP comment!
38 OldLawyer
September 28, 2019 at 10:56 AM
I have started WHEN CAMELLIA BLOOMS. While I know little about the male lead, I really appreciate Gong Hyo-jin – who has great talent and a very unusual beauty – so very different from most actresses. So far the story is good, though a few characters are a bit grating.
My wife and I are now about 3 quarters of the way through watching MY LOVE FROM THE STAR. After that: The GREAT SHOW. I also shared the first episode of PEGASUS MARKET with her (so I have now seen it twice)- she thought it quite funny. I am waiting for the second episode to be subtitled.
I am also still slowly watching SEARCH: WWW with my son.
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OldLawyer
September 28, 2019 at 11:33 AM
Update: PEGASUS MARKET episode 2 now has subtitles. And I need to knuckle down and learn Korean.
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39 TAS-Mania
September 28, 2019 at 11:02 AM
Finally finished watching the Chinese drama Arsenal Military Academy with Bai Lu and Xu Kai. While I enjoyed the drama and Xu Kai's crazy in love hero, I can't help but think how much better the drama might have been if the Chinese censors hadn't cut 90 minutes from the series including all of the hero and heroine kiss scenes. Oh well.
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Kurama
September 28, 2019 at 12:57 PM
I hate Chinese censors!
I mean the FL can kill and torture people without blinking but kiss is really bad for the viewers...
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Linda Palapala
October 2, 2019 at 4:57 PM
Wait a minute - Xu Kai and Bai Lu had kiss scenes in The Legends. Was Arsenal different because it was a heroic drama taking place for the 70 year anniv?
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TAS-Mania
October 22, 2019 at 7:33 AM
From the producer's weibo posting the issue wasn't kissing per se but instead it was inappropriate for military personnel to have intimate scenes. Sounds like he wasn't aware of this regulation until the censors removed these scenes.
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Linda Palapala
October 2, 2019 at 4:53 PM
Are you sure it was the censors? I've seen kisses in other c-dramas (wait, have I? Now I'm not sure - will have to think about it).
Did you ever watch Wm Chan in Age of Legends? There's a really funny scene I could tell you about if you haven't seen it.
Did you watch Untamed? They really managed to get the message across of their love, despite the censors.
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TAS-Mania
October 22, 2019 at 7:13 AM
The producer of AMA lamented about the scenes cut from the drama.
http://www.dramapanda.com/2019/08/arsenal-military-academy-producer-yu.html
Also per the producer's weibo posting that was translated on Soompi the scenes were cut because of the military aspect of the drama. "Yu Zheng made it clear stating that "The scenes that had been modified due to regulations can not be re-release. Please understand that it is not appropriate for any military personnel to shot intimate. They will pay more attention in the future and strictly following the guidelines from the general administration" (per his weibo dated 9/9/19).
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Linda Palapala
October 22, 2019 at 8:03 AM
Perhaps one day we'll see a "Director's Cut"...
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TAS-Mania
October 22, 2019 at 9:46 AM
Sadly, only if the regulations change as the producer indicates that he can't release the scenes that the censors deleted...
40 13infamyss
September 28, 2019 at 11:20 AM
Graceful Family Episode 6 - Mo Seok Hui. Black Diamond. I love chaebol female leads.
Mountains and Ocean Episode 16 - Watching for Ye Miao and Xia Ruining. I love them. Why can’t they have more scenes together? The scene where Ye Miao hang up his paintings of their memories together + the OST being played in the background had my heart. That was beautiful. Also the way Ye Miao watched Xia Ruining as she looked at his paintings, 💘
The second female lead’s self-pitying continues to drain my energy.
My Neighbour Can’t Sleep Episode 16 - Remains a cute light series I watch whenever subs are out.
Unexpected - It’s about a manhua author being pulled into the world of his creation with a mission to give his evil second female lead a HEA. In the process of fulfilling this mission he created a bond with his male and female leads and fell for his evil second female lead. The angst, as always with any other dramas, slowed down my watch. I rooted so hard for the evil second female lead and my heart broke for her with how little the author puts his trust in her. She had the most character growth in this manhua yet her author who is also his lover failed to see that. Sigh. Oh wells.
The Male lead is such a treat in the eyes 😍😍 Every time he comes on my screen I just ogle at how beautiful he is. I find his story really interesting too. He’s come a long way with his romance with the female lead. I may or may not teared up seeing them wed in the last episode.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:35 PM
I'm not watching your show but I absolutely love this statement. This is me watching yet another irritating second lead:
"Oh for f***'s sake. Just go. Gooooo!"
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13infamyss
September 28, 2019 at 5:12 PM
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13infamyss
September 28, 2019 at 5:24 PM
Yep! That’s been me everytime she’s got a scene.
I long to watch another drama where second leads have stories of their own and I can cheer for everyone’s character. Le Coup de Foudre, off the top of my head. Oh! Actually the drama, Unexpected, which I saw this week didn’t have love triangles/squares too, so that was nice.
In Mountains and Ocean, the main girl is a chaebol kid and the second female lead is the daughter of main lead’s housekeeper. To her, she’s the most pitiful person for being poor and nobody next to the chaebol girl. Like Auuugh. I just want to watch cute stuff and you’re in the way!
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41 books7time
September 28, 2019 at 12:07 PM
Dancesport's Girls (Just Dance)--why did I miss this?!
I have just finished and to me, this is truly a gem. A little rough at the beginning but sparkling by the end.
A slice-of-life, coming-of-age story plus dance. Could it get any better? Actually, yes. Because it is also raw, honest, and painfully beautiful. It made me recall my own life at this age. It had me riveted.
Also, I am overjoyed that I was surprised by the mother-daughter relationship. In fact, it highlights female relationships and coming into your own beautifully. The relationship between the main pair is a treat too--and doesn't fall into the typical rom-com cliches.
And now I am even more excited for "The Tale of Nokdu" (I didn't think that could be possible). If Jang Dong-Yoon brings his A-game like he did in this drama, I will be one happy camper. (I have no worries about Kim So Hyun).
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mindy
September 28, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Gah, I loved that show! One of the only shows to come out in the past year that I genuinely enjoyed! Isn’t it amazing when a show drags you in like that and makes you feel everything so keenly? A show that knew exactly what it was and exactly what story it wanted to tell. I adored it. Park Se-wan was a revelation to me in that.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 1:08 PM
Oh Dance Sport is wonderful! I'm so disappointed it got dumped in December when nobody would notice it. It was one of the best dramas from last year - and is in my Top 10 dramas as well.
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tsutsuloo
September 28, 2019 at 4:45 PM
@egads—I remember you were one of the few Beanies praising this show. @books7time, thanks for putting this show back on my radar!
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egads aka Dame Maggie
September 28, 2019 at 7:16 PM
Ahh, yes. Just Dance is wonderful. It came on my radar through other Beanies praising it, and remains a bright spot in an otherwise kind of bleak season.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 28, 2019 at 11:59 PM
You need to see it. It's wonderful.
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books7time
October 7, 2019 at 1:43 PM
It make me giddy to see these glowing comments about Dancesport Girl's since I missed the original airing. It will remain in my rematch dramas too.
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Kurama
September 28, 2019 at 1:30 PM
Takeeee Myyyy Haaand 🎵
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42 cherrycrumble
September 28, 2019 at 12:28 PM
ROOKIE HISTORIAN GOO HAE RYUNG:
It was the only show I've been watching and enjoying recently so I'm sad to say goodbye to it, but I walked away from it feeling satisfied. It wasn't perfect and there's a little bit of issue with the pacing, but it was such a delightful time & what a feel-good drama it is. The subversion of old tropes and the role reversal are so refreshing to see, I love the leads & supporting characters, and Hae Ryung will go down as one of my fave K-drama heroines.
There are some dramas on my watchlist that I haven't got the time and motivation to start yet, but I'll probably watch Forest of Secrets/Stranger soon since I'm in the mood for another mystery/crime drama. Thinking of starting When Camellia Blooms when more episodes are out as well.
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43 pcch2345
September 28, 2019 at 1:36 PM
hello...too much happening irl so haven't seen much this week, but here's what had my attention:
I Wanna Hear Your Song: while i did read few of the recaps on DB, i finally started this show and was able to binge watch ep1-8, i'm liking it so far..i've never seen the lead actors previously.
Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency: LOL, i watched ep1-4 without any subs, i'm pretty sure i haven't understood the story and/or thinking it all wrong...but it's odd on my part that i continue to keep watching the show without subs...i should just stop and watch for the subs to get updated, whenever that maybe.
Personal Taste- watched ep 1-8 (could not binge watch this one though)...there are days when i feel like dropping this show, but i find myself continuing...but for how long...let's see...anyway, i think i finally understand the allure of Lee Min Ho (since i dropped BOF and Heirs, but i watched TLOTBS in its entirety), i always wonder how come LMH is always on the top of every list, but i think i get it now...:-) he was away on his military duty when i first started kdramas so didn't read about him much, but now i'm excited for his new show (whatever that may be).
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44 amara
September 28, 2019 at 3:23 PM
hell is other people. dropped everything else. i'm tryna get through running mates since i think i will like it...it has the miss hammurabi vibe which isn't particularly stimulating but leaves with things to say. it helps that i literally just joined an organization around (human) labor rights...
i wish literally anything was more exciting that's airing....sigh
non korean stuff....the cuba libre docuseries on netflix....still tryna get through that..
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amara
September 28, 2019 at 3:24 PM
bl does not count unless a kind soul would like to discuss it...if not pretend i never said this
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September 28, 2019 at 3:25 PM
What BL? I'll discuss BL if I've seen it. @hades and @egads will too mostly.
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amara
September 28, 2019 at 3:30 PM
wellllll 2 moons 2 just finished. and dark blue kiss is coming up and the new history story!!!
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September 28, 2019 at 3:33 PM
Ahhh... I didn't watch 2 Moons 2. I did watch the first 2 Moons and wasn't quite sure why they did a shot for shot remake with a different cast.
Really looking forward to the next HIStory. I thought it'd have aired by now.
amara
September 28, 2019 at 3:38 PM
it's very very different. the beginning is kinda shot for shot but there's some added stuff, then it branches off into the continued story. i really do not understand the filming systems in other places for television but it seems like thailand has a lot of drama on these so i guess the s1 cast was...fired?? but also one of the dudes didnt want to be in a bl. that's another issue for another day but lmao
it's cute. typical but cute and they have decent chemistry. the dude that plays pha looks like play doh gumby LMAO but i had fun watching it. also it's done so you can skip (if you'd like ) my complaints are the usual ones (misogyny/whatever, drinking leading to sex, not talking about protection/lube) but out of all i watched it's pretty inoffensive. it's probs up there for one of my favs (aka tolerable)
the trailer is out! it looks super super super cute
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 3:47 PM
The weird and horrible thing about the Thai TV industry is that BL is a great way for an actor to have a breakout role. But while he's allowed to play gay on TV, rumours that he's actually gay will destroy his career (let's process the awful of that for a minute).
So agents set up BL roles for their young stars but then refuse to let them do anymore in case people think they're enjoying it too much. In this case, one of the male leads from 2 Moons had his agent pull him from any sequel (maybe even both leads).
2 Moons isn't the only drama that's suffered from this, Love By Chance was supposed to have a second season but there were rumours the main couple were really dating so the agencies pulled the leads. Lovesick S3 is being held back because Captain's agent doesn't want him to do BL anymore and nobody would watch the show without both Phun and No in it.
I do find it interesting that instead of recasting a second season they decided to completely redo the entire show.
Lixie
September 28, 2019 at 4:13 PM
@leetennant
They had to recast because of contract issues. The first cast had signed with a company that wasn't interested in a second season but still had the rights to the former cast. The actors always said they were interested but were not asked to come back for the roles. Except the guy who played Pha, there were rumours he was the kind of guy agents don't let come back for a gay role kk.
I do understand their decision because it would have been weird to start the story from where it was left in S1 so they did a resumed version in 3 eps moved from on there.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 4:15 PM
@lixie
Ahh, I knew about Pha but didn't know about the rest of the contract story. Thanks
Lixie
September 28, 2019 at 4:19 PM
@boughtabride
That guy that plays the new Pha was so terrible I had to ff all his lines. The new Ming was kind of weird too and they changed things that they shouldn't have.
I was as mad as everyone that S2 would have a different cast but this was so cheap I was happy the former cast was not in this.
amara
September 28, 2019 at 7:03 PM
i didnt know that about captain omfg. nor love by chance but i could barely watch it cos saint (?)'s character was annoying. theyre both so cute tho im obsessed with the short one.
this can propel you into intense popularity but also be bad 4 yr image and it's the frickin dumbest conundrum ugh.
compared to @lixie i have the total opposite perspective. i hated the first 2m, i mean i can barely stand any of it cos they cant act, but wooo.
ty ty for the insight! methinks im better off knowing none of this
하데스
September 28, 2019 at 6:33 PM
I haven't seen 2 Moons or its sequel. I haven't watched a BL in a long time. Haven't had any interest to do so. I am however looking forward to HIStory3: Make Our Days Count which comes out October 16th and Boundary Crossing 2 which should come out at the end of the year hopefully.
Apparently Addicted is getting a sequel after all.
https://rec.mengalary.in/season-2-shangyin-addicted%E4%B8%8A%E7%98%BE/
That could be kinda nuts given the source material, but the first season is beloved by fans.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 6:34 PM
How is Addicted getting a...
Ooh, Taiwan.
That's interesting.
amara
September 28, 2019 at 7:04 PM
o-<-< LMAO not these manips. and i would be SHOOK AF if china did this. i think in the 2nd books he hurts him real bad during sex...
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 28, 2019 at 7:06 PM
He rapes him more than once, those books are awful. I hate Addicted, mostly because to me it was a portrait of a horrible abusive relationship but people act as though it's romantic.
45 PakalanaPikake
September 28, 2019 at 9:13 PM
Part 1 of 2
Finished
ARTHDAL CHRONICLES:
Like some aspects of the story and want to know how it ultimately turns out. Writing and execution leave a lot to be desired, so potential is squandered. The Arthdalians are a nasty, cruel lot, and that goes triple for their OTP. Many very good individual performances. Song Joong-ki does well in his dual role. More remarks in ep. 17-18 recap threads.
LET ME HEAR YOUR SONG:
Started out well and had great music, with gypsy violinist KoN’s performance as the concertmaster a special treat. But as the show wore on, there was less and less music. I enjoyed Yeon Woo-jin’s and Song Jae-rim’s shifty performances, and couldn’t figure out what either of them was hiding or up to. Quirky heroine devolved into annoying dopiness by the end. The ending was flat, but it didn’t rile me up the way some other endings have. It just fizzled. For about the first half or so, the show really kept me guessing, but ultimately there was too much fiddling while Bucket Hat Baddie skulked around. When the true circumstances of Ian Kim’s stabbing were finally revealed, I wanted to throw something.
Ongoing
THE GREAT SHOW:
Enjoy this show and Song Seung-heon’s performance. Creepy biological dad of Tak and the Twins has left the building. Politics is rearing its ugly head in earnest, and I hope it doesn’t take over the drama. I want to continue seeing this ragtag family of choice get its act together via lots of gooey warmth and healing.
- Continued -
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PakalanaPikake
September 28, 2019 at 9:15 PM
Part 2 of 2
Recently Added
FLOWER CREW: JOSEON MARRIAGE AGENCY:
It starts out fluffy, but a tragic back story emerges. Of course there’s political intrigue – how can there not be? It’s set in Joseon, and Flower Crew boss Ma Hoon’s father is the Mayor of Hanseong, an influential man at court (played by Park Ho-san, who is also currently appearing in PEGASUS MARKET). I mainly tuned in for Kim Min-jae, who had a short but compelling cameo as a jealous Goryeo king in GOBLIN, and Seo Ji-hoon, whose dual turn in MAMA FAIRY AND THE WOODCUTTER I enjoyed a lot.
WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS:
Kang Ha-neul and Gong Hyo-jin as polar opposites in a claustrophobically small town. I love disarmingly earnest cop Yong-sik’s feisty mom Deuk-soon (Go Du-shim), and how she has basically adopted Dong-baek and her son, Pil-gu. Capt. Byun is another engaging character. I am often peeved at the Marinated Crab Matrons, but they aren’t all – or always – bad. “Lord” No aka Peanut Moocher (kudos to @lordcobol for that great moniker!) and Terrifying Wife Esq. are Ongsan’s power couple. Kim Ji-suk is great as the baseball player who suddenly discovers he has a son. I was initially jarred by the serial killer on the loose, but find the characters so lovable I’ll keep tuning in. Addictive. Further comments in the recap threads.
PEGASUS MARKET:
I laughed my head off while watching the premiere episode. It is totally bonkers. Just the kind of absurdity I need right about now. The Korean title refers to the famous “thousand-li horse” of Chinese antiquity that could gallop about 250 miles a day. See comments in recap thread.
VAGABOND:
Lee Seung-gi is all kinds of fine in this action thriller that reminds me of a mashup of MAD DOG, MISAENG, and TIME BETWEEN DOG AND WOLF, with a tip of the hat to SECRET GARDEN. See comments in ep. 1 recap thread.
Avidly Anticipating
MY COUNTRY:
I cannot wait to see Jang Hyuk as Lee Bang-won, along with Yang Se-jong in his second sageuk role, and Woo Do-hwan’s maiden outing in the genre. Next stop, the waning days of Goryeo!
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bong-soo
September 29, 2019 at 7:09 AM
@pakalanapikake,
Re CAMELLIA. Thanks for the ‘nomen’ (ations): Marinated Crab Matrons and LOL “Lord” No aka Peanut Moocher. Love em. Speaking of which in the above pic there we see Ongsan’s power couple with The “Boss” in the background (the wonderful Yeom Hye-ran).
I wondering based on 2 of YHR’s recent roles which way Attorney Hong (YHR) is going to go:
1. Crazy a la LAWLESS LAWYER or
2. Tough professional a la LIFE but also maybe a bit of a softie like when she took a yen to the Drs. Ye?
Married to “Lord” No maybe it will be a bit of both.
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PakalanaPikake
September 29, 2019 at 8:51 PM
@marcusnyc20 bong-soo,
Credit Where Credit Is Due: @lordcobol coined "Peanut Moocher" -- so hat's off to him! ;-)
"Lord" No is short for (Land)"Lord" No because he is Dong-baek's landlord -- and he acts like a spoiled yangban, if not a chaebol heir.
I didn't see LIFE, but I did see LAWLESS LAWYER, in which she played a horrible bully of a toady -- until her boss the evil judge was ready to throw her under the bus, and then she turned into a basket case, IIRC.
In LIVE, she played the abusive alcoholic mom of rookie cop Lee Kwang-soo who was so bad that his hyung ran off to Australia.
In SEVEN DAY QUEEN, she played the title character's nanny, who was a nag, but truly loved her. A wonder portrayal of a warm, loyal character.
In GOBLIN, she played the greedy aunt of orphaned Eun-tak, the fated bride of Kim Shin. She was so awful in a thoroughly convincing and despicable way. And her two kids were chips off the old block. -- This was the first drama role I saw her in.
She was also in the murder thriller OUR TOWN with Oh Man-seok, Ryu Deok-hwan, and Lee Sun-kyun, although I do not recall her performance as the rice cake vendor.
I have a suspicion that Scary Wife Esq. is quietly assembling evidence against her desperately narcissistic other half. She emits a menacing vibe like a barracuda. I don't know how this couple ended up together, but it seems like a loveless marriage of inconvenience.
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46 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 29, 2019 at 2:28 AM
Hey Sic
Yeah Sic?
What'd you do over your weekend, now that it’s Arthdal and LMHYS free?
Uh not much...
Watch the Ice Cream Drama?
Heck no.
Watch TWDR?
Er… no…
Watch Vagabond?
Er… no…
Sh★tpost Vagabond?
Er… no…
Well?!
I just… binged… Circle...
Just that?
Yeah…
That was the only thing you did this weekend?
Yeah…
Oh.
Yeah.
What did you think of it?
…
Well?
…
wEll?!!
Why did the supercomputer magically and very conveniently shut down in episode 11 and why is all lite sci fi just really fantasy where technology=magic? And why did-
Yeah ok ok, I get it I get it, hajima.
But-
Hajima.
I have a lot of thoughts.
Of course you do. You couldn’t just watch a show and not nitpick it for once, could you?
Well… not really… no…
Not even things like Vagabond?
He should still be dead even if I’m not taking it seriously…
Will we get a Circle review?
Yes.
Will we get a Vagabond Episode 3+4 Sh★tpost?
When?
Not now.
Helpful.
Always.
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47 Yuki
September 29, 2019 at 3:29 AM
Sad to say goodbye to Rookie historian Goo Hae Ryung❤️ which was awesome till the very end. Love that they had a deserved happy ending. 😄
I started Vagabond but so far I'm disappointed. The setup and action are good, but there were some laughable plot points in episode 2, like finding a Korean-doctor-double agent in a lab in Morocco, the sniper that was conveniently situated in a random building at the end of the chase for the guy that run from the hospital (Suzy was also lucky enough to end up in that exact spot), or the high officers that agree to drink and dance with naked women so they can be recorded and blackmailed later. Too much for me.
I also started Melting me softly but not sure yet about this one. I'm putting my hopes in the Tale of Nokdu which looks interesting.
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48 john
September 29, 2019 at 5:37 AM
Stopped watching everything else but Oshin, currently at Ep 137 of 297. Kobayashi Ayako’s portrayal of Oshin’s childhood years is stellar. Tanaka Yuko is excellent covering Oshin’s life from ages 16-46.
The story covers her life from 1900 - 1980’s
Farming was a brutal existence. Dirt poor, Oshin always thrives in city settings, yet fate, (Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923), delivers her back to the brutal country farming life.
She’s about to make yet another life changing decision to escape from the oppression of her domineering mother in law. (I would have killed the woman while she slept, lol)☠️🔪
Her hubby fully embraced Western ideas and life style in Tokyo, reverts back to Momma’s boy in the country. Run Oshin! Run far away
I did manage to convince my wife to watch Heartless City, she marathoned it, lol.
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49 Slice-of-Life Dramatics
September 29, 2019 at 7:21 PM
Completed "Because This Life Is Our First" the past week, and started on "My Ahjussi" (took a hiatus from K-dramas for a couple of years so I'm glad to be back on the bandwagon!)
Liked the former a lot for a simple, relatable story told magnificently, except the last 2.5 episodes left me quite befuddled about some of the female lead's decision. But still doesn't detract from the fact that I liked the drama on the whole.
Ongoing:
When the Camellia Blooms
Vagabond
Melting Me Slowly
Also started on Lee Sun Gyun's and Kim Nam-gil's new variety show, "Trans-Siberian Pathfinders"! I was so stoked and on the lookout for this because... Lee Sun Gyun and Kim Nam-gil together on the same variety show is like heaven bestowed on me for having saved a galaxy in my previous life lol. The first episode was funny and good, showcasing the funny bantering amongst these good friends! Looking forward to more :)
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50 brian
September 29, 2019 at 8:49 PM
Vagabond has been good in some ways, as far as action thrillers go. Still, it seems a bit silly that they can't seem to kill Lee Seung Gi, no matter how great of a stuntman he is. I don't see how he can survive another 12 episodes without having them stop trying to kill him.
So far the bad guys are pretty much caricatures but still somewhat interesting. I suppose the story is a major underdog story about one man trying to fight both big business and a corrupt government. Still, it's actually good enough for me to keep watching it!
Also watching Graceful Family, which is deliciously greasy and slimy and all sorts of backstabbing.
Started Miss Lee, because I like Hyeri. So far it's a bit tiresome but I hope it will pick up soon.
When the Camellias Bloom -- watching it, Kang Ha Neul is decent as a bumpkin but it's a bit slow. The neighbors are a bit too shrewish, yet the small-town vibe is nice. Hope it doesn't go off the rails.
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