My Ajusshi: Episode 12
by LollyPip
So many dramas focus on the relationships between people that it can be hard to stand out when it seems like every possible angle has already been explored. The beauty of My Ajusshi is that it doesn’t try to make the relationships between the characters unique—instead it focuses on the ordinary moments in life, and how those moments can actually be very extraordinary because of the people who experience them. The show allows its characters to be average and flawed, which is the very reason why we identify with them and love them so much.
EPISODE 12 RECAP
In the morning, Dong-hoon is still thinking about his fight with Yoon-hee last night. He’d crouched on the floor in front of Yoon-hee, hand bloody from punching the door, screaming, “Why did you do it? Why, why why?!”
He’d begged Yoon-hee to explain why she cheated with Joon-young, of all people. He’d accused her of thinking it would be easier to divorce him if she had an affair with his nemesis and got him fired, asking if she really thought she’d live happily with Joon-young. He’d asked if she’d even considered Ji-seok, their son, and how this would destroy his father.
He’d told Yoon-hee that he used to clean the house before she got home to make her happy, bought her whatever she wanted, and believed her when she’d said she was going on business trips. He’d sobbed that he thought she was just busy, never guessing that she was having an affair.
Yoon-hee had argued that Dong-hoon was always first in her heart, but that she’d felt like she came in second behind family. She’d cried that it broke her heart when she’d call him and he’d say he was eating with his family, even though she wasn’t there. She’d wailed that she hates this neighborhood and all of his friends, feeling that it’s unfair that they don’t know how lonely Dong-hoon makes her feel.
Ki-hoon drives Dong-hoon to the soccer field and asks if he and Yoon-hee had a fight. Dong-hoon says they didn’t, and Ki-hoon says that’s good because he’s going to have to fight a certain bastard later and needs to conserve energy. He even brags about how sexy he is when he’s spouting poetic words of hate, ha.
He knows that something’s wrong with Dong-hoon, but when he asks again, he just gets his head bitten off. He complains that Dong-hoon is always mean, and sighs that he’ll just pretend to believe that Dong-hoon hurt his hand at work.
At the nursing home, Ji-an helps her grandmother into bed, and she finds the notebook in which Grandma wrote to Dong-hoon that she feels at ease with someone like him looking after Ji-an.
Poor Dong-hoon seems doomed to relive the previous evening’s fight — and he recalls Yoon-hee saying that she wanted to move, but that whenever she brought it up, he’d go quiet and she’d give up. She’d admitted that she shouldn’t be forgiven for what she did, but that she’d wanted to die when she found out that he knew about her infidelity.
She’d said that she knows he’s not trying to keep the marriage together because he loves her, and that she’d go along if he wants to keep this from his mother and Ji-seok, or if he wants to end it. He’d said that he doesn’t want to make her miserable just because it’s easier for him, but that he doesn’t know how to end the relationship. He’d admitted that he thought he could get through it as long as she didn’t know he knew, but now that’s too hard.
As the guys all drive back to the neighborhood after the soccer game, Dong-hoon stares out the van window. Ki-hoon stops for a red light, and Dong-hoon realizes that Ji-an is standing on the curb, staring at him. He just stares back as they drive away.
Back at work on Monday, Dong-hoon’s team discusses the old shopping mall, which needs to have two points subtracted from its safety score in order to qualify for reconstruction. Dong-hoon refuses to fudge the scores, telling his team to focus on the structural evaluation and stay out of the political games.
He gets a message from Director Jang that they’re changing hotels today (for his director interview practice). He’d replied that he has a report to finish, but Director Jang fires back that that’s not a priority at the moment.
When Dong-hoon shows up at the hotel after work, Director Jang reams him out for punching Joon-young in his office. He orders Dong-hoon to tell them before he does anything else, to let them know if Director Park gives him anything, and to stop making it obvious that he’s Joon-young’s sunbae.
After their meeting, they all head downstairs in the elevator and run into Director Yoon and his team, also leaving after a meeting. Awk-ward. They all ride down together, and Director Jang cheerfully asks Director Yoon if they got in some good practice, ha. The directors leave, and Dong-hoon is left behind with his competitor, who seems friendly and says that he thinks Dong-hoon will get the promotion.
Dong-hoon’s team calls him to tell him not to bother coming back to the office because they’ll handle the report, but he goes anyway, and they all light up adorably. He’s surprised to see Ji-an there, too, and he learns that she practically volunteered to stay and help.
They all run together to catch the last train of the night with only seconds to spare, cutting it so close that only Dong-hoon and Ji-an make it onto the train as the door shuts in the team’s faces. Once they catch their breath, Dong-hoon quips that Ji-an is actually pretty good at running, lol.
He asks why she stayed late, and she mutters that she missed him. She tells him that his attempt to draw a line backfired, only making her like him more. Dong-hoon sighs that only she likes him because she pities him. She just asks why he was nice to her and whether that’s not the same thing.
She sees a man coming down the train towards them and rolls her eyes, grumbling that she thought she got rid of them. She asks Dong-hoon if he’s seen anyone taking pictures of him, and she quickly moves to another car when the man enters theirs.
The man has his phone in his hand, and he sits near Dong-hoon when he sees that Ji-an left the car. Dong-hoon asks to see his phone, but the guy just glares at him then follows Ji-an to the next car. Dong-hoon goes after him, so the man passes Ji-an and keeps going while Dong-hoon stands over her protectively.
They surprise everyone by walking past Jung-hee’s bar just as the guys are leaving. Dong-hoon tells them that Ji-an is a coworker that he’s walking home after they worked late. The guys bow awkward greetings, but Jung-hee chirps a cheerful hello to Ji-an.
She decides to tag along the rest of the way to Ji-an’s place, and pretty soon a perplexed Ji-an finds herself being walked home by all of Dong-hoon’s friends. They tease Ji-an that now she’ll have to find another route home in order to avoid running into her crazy boss outside working hours. Finally Dong-hoon tells them to knock it off, and Jung-hee says that Dong-hoon is perfectly safe.
She tells a story about how she and Dong-hoon visited every temple in the country looking for their friend who ran off to be a monk, sharing hotel rooms for two weeks, but Dong-hoon never made a move on her. She moves closer to Ji-an and asks if she’s scared to get old like them, but Ji-an says, “I want to get to your age as soon as possible. I bet life won’t be so hard.” They all stop to look at her, but with kindness, as if she’s just said something they can all identify with.
Jung-hee, Dong-hoon, Sang-hoon, and Jae-chul walk Ji-an all the way home. Sang-hoon calls out to a friend who lives in the next building over, introduces Ji-an, and asks his friend to keep an eye on her.
They leave Ji-an safely at her door, and as they walk away, she takes a deep breath and calls out, “Thank you.” Sang-hoon wishes her a good night and Jung-hee invites her to visit the bar. Only Dong-hoon recognizes what it took for Ji-an to thank them.
As they walk back together, Jung-hee tells the brothers that life wasn’t easy when they were young, either.
Ki-hoon wasn’t at the bar tonight because he’s with a friend who works on Yu-ra’s movie, watching the dailies. His friend tells him that they originally thought the role suited Yu-ra because of her crazy vibe, but over time she started freezing up. The director does seem hard on her in the videos, but to be fair, Yu-ra is pretty bad. Ki-hoon abandons his plan to beat up the director.
The next morning, Yu-ra shows up at the cleaning store looking for Ki-hoon. She asks him to kidnap her for a few months, because she’s too embarrassed to quit the movie. He refuses, warning her that if she keeps coming to him with tears in her eyes, she’ll end up married to him.
Yu-ra says that she doesn’t care so long as he kidnaps her, but Ki-hoon snaps at her to use that spirit to fight for her role. She bursts into tears and insists that she’s serious, so Ki-hoon tells her to just quit. He adds, “I took the blame the first time, but this proves that you’re part of the problem. That’s all you’re really capable of. If you want to become a top star, at least take the insults.”
He gives Yu-ra a gentle shove away and tells her to stop crying to him every day. She shuffles away, dejected, as Sang-hoon calls Ki-hoon a big jerk. As they drive past Yu-ra, Ki-hoon never even looks at her.
Ki-bum hacks into the company files again and finds pictures of Ji-an in an email. She tells him to delete it, but he warns that whoever sent it will just keep sending until someone opens the email. Ji-an tells him to monitor the inbox until she says he can stop, and she calls Yoon-hee as she rushes out of the office.
Meanwhile, Executive Director Wang and Joon-young visit Chairman Jang to name their choices for the open director position. Chairman Jang likes both candidates and warns them not to create negative feelings, as they’re both valuable to the company.
Joon-young meets Yoon-hee on the roof to inform him that she told Dong-hoon everything. She’s incredulous that he’s trying to create a scandal (she must have answered Ji-an’s call), ashamed that she ever liked someone like him.
Joon-young claims that he did those things to marry her, but Yoon-hee knows it’s a lie. She asks why he’s still trying to ruin Dong-hoon if that’s true, and he accuses her of blaming everything on him to assuage her guilt for cheating.
Joon-young is surprised when Ji-an joins them, and Yoon-hee says that she invited Ji-an here. She tells Ji-an to stop following Joon-young’s orders, stay away from Dong-hoon, and quit her job. Ji-an retorts that it will look bad for Dong-hoon if she quits now, ad she asks Yoon-hee if she’s scared that they slept together.
She laughs at Yoon-hee’s insecurity, considering that she cheated first, and she tells her that there’s a rumor in the company that she and Dong-hoon are in a relationship. Yoon-hee demands to know who started the rumor, and when Ji-an sneers in Joon-young’s direction, Yoon-hee catches the guilty look on his face.
Yoon-hee vows to tell the company everything the moment Joon-young frames Dong-hoon and Ji-an. She tells them to stop their scheming, but Ji-an laments that she’s already spent the money Joon-young paid her. Joon-young asks Ji-an if she’d stop if he told her to, and she says they should stop openly.
Yoon-hee wants to know what she means, but she just walks away. Joon-young snarls that Yoon-hee won’t be able to tell Dong-hoon that Ji-an was working for him, because she knows she’ll lose him if she does. He calls her a coward, and she spits back that it’s better than garbage. She says that she just wants Dong-hoon to blame her and divorce her.
Afterward, Yoon-hee thinks back on Ji-an’s call earlier, when she’d said that Dong-hoon was in danger and they needed to stop Joon-young. She calls Ji-an back to ask if it’s true that she likes Dong-hoon, and when Ji-an admits it’s true, Yoon-hee thanks her for her help, fighting back tears.
When she gets home, Ji-an finds Kwang-il waiting for her, growling that he’s missed her. Ji-an calls him garbage like his father for making up excuses to see her and beat her up just because he likes her. He looms over her, snarling that he beats her up because he hates her for killing his father.
She asks if beating her up makes him feel better, never breaking eye contact. Kwang-il looks away first and goes oddly calm. He says that the way to her house reminds him of the hill he used to climb, carrying her on his back when she’d pass out after his father’s beatings. Staring into the distance, he says in a hollow voice as a tear slides down his face, “I can’t make up my mind. Should I kill you, or should I just die myself?”
Dong-hoon’s mother asks Ki-hoon how things are going with Dong-hoon’s promotion, scared to upset him by asking. Ki-hoon tells her that Dong-hoon is mostly worried about disappointing her. She goes to Jung-hee to complain that she knows something is up because when one brother is upset, they’re all in a bad mood.
Jung-hee reveals that it’s Ki-hoon who’s having girl problems, and Mom asks what she’s like. Jung-hee just says that she knows Ki-hoon cleans for a living, and Mom is all, “Is she really weird?” Ha.
As Sang-hoon approaches their corner in the van, he gets a glint in his eye and hits the gas. Oh no, he’s gonna tip the van again. Ki-hoon screams for him to stop, and Sang-hoon slams on the brakes, almost balancing the van on its nose, mere feet from some pedestrians. Ki-hoon flies into a fury, and he jumps out of the van and goes looking for Yu-ra’s director.
He finds the cast and crew at a restaurant having lunch, and he plunks himself down right beside Director Ahn. He marvels sarcastically that there’s someone just like him, and he tells Director Ahn to stop targeting innocent people.
He says that he understands why Director Ahn is treating Yu-ra harshly — he realized too late that his script sucks, after they’d already started filming. He screams at Director Ahn for taking it out on Yu-ra instead of being a better director.
He ends up at Yu-ra’s place that night, telling her how the same thing happened to him. He didn’t notice that his script was terrible until he saw the scenes on film, and he knew he’d be doomed if the movie was released. But he was greedy to retain his genius reputation, so he’d taken it out on her, and the more she fell apart the better he felt because he could blame the movie’s failure on her.
He says that the worst part is that people like him can tell who is the most likely to crumble, and chose them as targets. He tells Yu-ra that the director targeted her to sacrifice to his pride, and he tells her to fight and not back down. He admits that after he destroyed her, he hated himself so much that he doomed himself to this life.
Sobbing, Yu-ra asks if Ki-hoon is blaming her for his failure. He just tells her to kill anyone who messes with her from now on, and he’ll clean up after her.
He goes to Jung-hee’s bar, where he tries to carry on a philosophical discussion with an oblivious Sang-hoon. Still crying, Yu-ra takes a taxi to the bar, marches inside, and slaps Ki-hoon across the face. She shoves him into a post, then buries her face and wails at the top of her lungs. All the guys hilariously pretend that there’s not a sobbing woman assaulting Ki-hoon just a few feet away.
Once things calm down, Ki-hoon and Yu-ra go outside to hammer out the details of their new relationship, which basically boils down to: “Dump me and I’ll kill you.” Ki-hoon says morosely that Yu-ra will definitely dump him, since she’s an actress and he’s only a cleaner.
She makes him pinky-swear that neither of them will break up, though she admits that it will be hard to get married. She tries to lay her head on his shoulder, while he irritably pushes her away, making her giggle. Oof, they’re so depressing — they’ll be together forever.
Inside, Sang-hoon wonders at their odd relationship, but Jung-hee says that love just happens all at once. Sang-hoon asks, “Ah, is that why you…” but he wisely shuts up and apologizes.
Ki-hoon and Sang-hoon have gone home by the time Dong-hoon shows up, but the guys fill him in on the romantic drama that unfolded between Yu-ra and Ki-hoon. Dong-hoon only half-listens, scanning the street for a glimpse of Ji-an.
Dong-hoon left his phone inside on the bar to charge, so he doesn’t hear when it rings. Jung-hee picks it up to answer, but she freezes up when she sees that it’s Gyeom-duk calling.
She peeks at the message when Gyeom-duk texts Dong-hoon to ask what he’s is doing, and Jung-hee sends a reply: “I’m drinking with Jung-hee. Don’t you think about her anymore?” Gyeom-duk answers that there’s no need, because he saw her when he dropped Dong-hoon off the other day, and she hasn’t changed. Jung-hee escapes to her room upstairs and sobs her heart out.
The company executives prepare to interview their candidates’ coworkers, and Director Yoon requests an addition to the interviewees at the last minute. Director Jang loudly objects when he sees that the new list includes Ji-an, but he’s forced to allow it when he’s accused of having something to hide.
When she’s called in, she tells the directors that because of the work culture that judges people based on their backgrounds, she’d never been included in a company dinner until the night Dong-hoon invited her. She says he’s never treated her poorly for being a temporary hire or his junior. Director Yoon asks if she likes him, and she hesitates for a long minute before answering, “Yes.”
Executive Director Wang’s team hang their heads in defeat, but Ji-an isn’t finished. She says, “I like him. I respect him. I got used to being neglected, so I didn’t expect much from people, and I never tried hard to earn praise. But now I want to do a good job.”
She’s interrupted by Chairman Jang, who surprises them all by showing up for the meeting. Ji-an’s vice gets stronger as she continues:
I don’t know if the fact that I like someone will produce an unfavorable outcome, but even if you fire me today, I’ve been treated like a human being for the first time. I thought that I could be a decent person after all, while working here. So I’ll always be thankful to Manager Park Dong-hoon. In the three months that I’ve worked here, I’ve felt warmer than I’ve ever felt in my twenty-one years. Whenever I see this building, I’m happy, and I’ll always wish the best for Saman E&C.
Executive Director Wang’s team look triumphant, but Director Yoon refuses to give up and he asks Ji-an how far he and Dong-hoon have gone, meaning physically. But she answers innocently that they’ve gone to her house, because they live in the same neighborhood.
She’s sent back to her desk, and a few minutes later, Director Jang comes out looking smug. He calls Dong-hoon to a private room and tells him that Ji-an did well, and that they’ve got this in the bag.
Dong-hoon and Ji-an go out after work for a drink. Dong-hoon tells Ji-an that she has courage, but that he’s not as decent as she thinks. She looks at him with respect and says, “You’re a very decent person. You’re a good person. Really.” Dong-hoon smiles, pleased, but Ji-an looks sad again as she remembers hearing him crying that when Yoon-hee cheated, she declared him worthless.
COMMENTS
This episode was the first time we got to see Ji-an being strong and acting for a good cause — to help Dong-hoon. When she stood up to Yoon-hee on the roof, there was a true strength in her eyes and voice that’s not there when she’s putting on her tough-girl act, and it was amazing to finally see the positive effect that Dong-hoon is having on her. She’s gaining confidence and a willingness to fight for what’s right, and not just what’s easy and profitable. She’s still using her incredible ability to turn the most hopeless situation to her favor, such as manipulating Yoon-hee into fighting to protect her and Dong-hoon from Joon-young, which also shielded Ji-an from the danger that breaking off her promise with Joon-young would have caused. I knew that Ji-an would be a force to reckon with when she finally gained a sense of purpose, but it’s even more glorious than I imagined.
But my favorite scene of this whole episode (actually, it may just be my favorite scene of the entire drama so far) was when Dong-hoon and all of his friends walked Ji-an home. Such a simple, ordinary thing to do, but to Ji-an, it was practically life-changing. Just from knowing Dong-hoon, she suddenly gained friends, protectors, and an acceptance that nobody in her life has ever given her. That moment when she said she couldn’t wait to get to their age, and they all just looked at her with so much compassion, made me cry happy tears. For once, Ji-an was understood by people who aren’t that different from her, and I hope she learns the lesson that some people really are just good human beings who would love to know her, if she’d only let them.
Hearing the entire fight between Yoon-hee and Dong-hoon regarding her infidelity was so heartbreaking, because we were finally allowed to see Yoon-hee’s side in the breakdown of their marriage. From her perspective, she spent over a decade trying to become a member of Dong-hoon’s family, yet he’s always held her separate and favored his mother and brothers over her. It was difficult for Dong-hoon to hear, but if I set aside the fact of Yoon-hee’s affair, I can understand how lonely and unloved she’s felt for so many years. I’ve said it before and I’ll always believe it: There is no justification for cheating, ever. But I can sympathize with a woman who’s desperate for love but isn’t getting it, and how she got drawn in by someone who claimed to love her.
We haven’t seen Kwang-il in a while, so I was shocked at how his one small scene in this episode explained so much. There’s something about Kwang-il that is really haunting despite all of the horrible things he’s done to Ji-an. He mentioned that he used to carry Ji-an to safety after his father would beat her into unconsciousness, and that one sentence pretty much revealed everything about him. It sounds like Kwang-il and Ji-an used to be close, and that he cared about her enough to try to protect her from his father — she may even be his first love. Then when she killed his father, his feelings of love and anger and hatred became so twisted that fury and violence were the only way he could express himself. His saying that he can’t decide whether to kill her or himself shows that he wants revenge against his father’s murderer, but the fact that he also loves his father’s murderer makes him want to die. None of this excuses what he’s done, but it does make me wonder what kind of man Kwang-il might have been if things had happened differently.
I wish that words were adequate to describe the stark, painful beauty of this drama, but sadly, I’m just not that good of a writer. My Ajusshi is so deftly crafted that many scenes can’t properly be conveyed through the written word — the emotional trauma, the longing and loneliness just have to be seen to be fully experienced. One great example is the final scene of Episode 10, when Ji-an is screaming at Dong-hoon to hit her, and he finally does. I literally cried out when Dong-hoon did the one thing he felt violated Ji-an’s dignity as a human being the most, the thing he’d just fought Kwang-il over — he physically struck her.
Another beautiful scene is the one towards the beginning of Episode 11, when Dong-hoon is being asked if he ever texted or called Ji-an. With each question, he flashed to moments when those things happened. The quick flipping from moment to moment perfectly conveyed the guilt, desperation, and confusion that Dong-hoon was feeling in that scene, but as a recapper, I just don’t have the skill to adequately describe the wrenching feelings these moments give to the viewers. I hope that those of you who are just reading recaps (as much as I appreciate it!) do take the time to watch the show at some point, because it’s just so much better than what I can ever hope to put into words.
RELATED POSTS
- Premiere Watch: My Ajusshi, Let’s Watch the Sunset
- Lee Jia joins tvN’s My Ajusshi as Lee Seon-kyun’s wife
- My Ajusshi cast lineup secured with Lee Seon-kyun, IU headlining
- IU to romance Lee Seon-kyun for My Ajusshi?
- Lee Seon-kyun considers becoming My Ajusshi for tvN
- Signal PD and Oh Hae-young writer team up for tvN’s My Ajusshi
Tags: IU, Lee Seon-kyun, My Ajusshi
Required fields are marked *
Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *
1 gadis
April 27, 2018 at 8:08 PM
This whole eps drove me to the verge of tears because of shared pain and happiness, but mostly because I finally understand what's actually going on between some of the characters. All the clashings and revelations I didn't see coming happened at the same time. And this drama reminded us yet again how messy human emotions and relationships are.
I might not be as annoyed as many others by Ki-hoon and Yu-ra's storyline, but at some point I also asked myself what they'll contribute to the bigger story. And then Ki-hoon went to confront the other PD and for the first time, finally confronted his own mistake 10 years ago. His monologue in Yu-ra's room was a powerful reminder of how much you can ruin someone's life by not admitting your own shortcoming, by not wanting to be seen as someone who makes mistake and poor judgment. And that, 10 years late as it might be, is the one thing she needs to hear to 'straighten her out'.
Kwang-il's reminiscence of Ji-an and his history together pointed to something much more complicated than I imagined. I believe that once, he saw the wrong things his father did as it is, and became the little help and maybe solace for young Ji-an to go through those hellish days. But when she killed his father, he was torn between his hate toward Ji-an and his self-hate for being a copy of his father. I wonder if he unfairly blamed her for turning him into who he is now. Because with his father died that early, he has to fend for himself since young, and he only ever learned about violence and being a loan shark from his father. I think he knew it was wrong, yet he didn't know any other way to live his life, which might prompted his "should I just kill myself?" comment.
Then there is Ji-an and Yoon-hee's third meeting. Everything that happened in the rooftop might not be much of a surprise, given how well we already knew them. But Yoon-hee's call afterwards floored me. Her genuine and sorrowful "Thank you" after hearing Ji-an admitting that she like Dong-hoon was something I didn't see coming. I expected Yoon-hee to get angry or jealous, but she looked both glad that someone who has Dong-hoon's best interests at heart is there for him, and also crushed to realize that she couldn't be that person for him. And that, I believe, is another powerful wake up call for her right there.
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 27, 2018 at 8:25 PM
Yeah, I felt in this episode, the Ki-Hoon & Yu-Ra storyline finally paid off.
I wonder if this episode's narrative arc was about "responsibility" and "blame". We see a lot of that in all the characters and scenes you listed.
Who is responsible for the state of the marriage?
Who is responsible for success of a movie? How to shift the blame of failure onto someone else.
How one blames another for the death of a family member, but it clashes with the responsibility or love to protect that person.
In Ji-An versus Yoon Hee's case, YH should have been responsible to protect her husband, but she did the opposite. Rather, it was a complete stranger who helped Dong Hoon. Yeah, that has to sting YH's pride and shame a lot. But, I think it says something deep about her that she's able to thank Ji-An sincerely even after finding out Ji-An likes Dong-Hoon.
Required fields are marked *
Henson
April 28, 2018 at 12:04 AM
KL did not toy with the idea of killing himself because he was a delinquent.
He was split between loyalty to his father and a woman, whom he also love, with the same right as him to commit an irrevocable act for a family member.
He knows JA is a good woman hence, should he not rather die then to take sides?
Even DH sees some good in him(hence was spared from neighbourhood beating)
Required fields are marked *
2 pineapplegongzhu
April 27, 2018 at 8:09 PM
Thanks for the recap, @Lollypip!
Well, this show certainly doesn’t pull any punches.
My heart got hit with a mega-ton punch of TRUTH. Repeatedly.
I missed Dong Hoon having drinks and chatting with Ji An, so I’m glad that episode ended with them together.
But, DANG, if Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee’s discussion about the infidelity wasn’t soul-deep raw and honest!! I was reeling because it was so powerful and painful…like surgery without any anaesthetic!!
Did you think it’d be easier to divorce me if you had an affair with him, had me fired, and turned me into a homeless person?
DH, in his methodical way, echoes our collective indictments against YH: not only cheating on him, but with the very man he despised, in complete disregard to the consequences of her actions on her family, even her son.
I LOVED how they divulged how each chose to love the other. DH entirely misunderstood what his wife needed. This is so realistic to what couples who genuinely love each other go through when trouble brews in the marriage. DH provided for YH’s physical needs so impeccably, but he completely missed what she really wanted:
"Is it love if I’m in second place? Am I even in second place?"
“You were always my number one.” My heart actually went out to YH this time. No matter how MASSIVELY she messed up, she’s extremely lucid describing the emotional neglect and isolation she felt in the marriage. She understands her husband emotionally better than he does her.
She knows his family is the most important thing to him, so to please him she made every effort to love his family-of-origin well. But, she was hoping he would love her with the same kind of devotion he gives to his family-of-origin, but it never materialized.
She even names the fear that motivates him: he wants to avoid disappointing his mother and hurting his son. If so, he is motivated by “family” to stay in the marriage, but sadly, YH isn’t included on that “list”. If that is true, then her indictment of him is equally true: she was never part of his “family”, which is why she never FELT like a priority to him. She honestly thought she didn’t mattered to him. She thought he didn’t love her. She recognized he would never change, and in her despair, she turned to whoever would give her the affection she craved. That’s really sad.
It’s interesting how quickly YH and JY turn on each other…and ironically enough, because of Dong Hoon. Their conversations are always about Dong Hoon! The person they both betrayed is the same one who drives them apart. #poeticjustice
Oh snap! YH now fighting full force for her husband: she’s pretty useless compared to Ji An, but I like that she’s in her husband’s corner.
The one vital piece of information we lack is why Dong Hoon fell in love with Yoon Hee in the first place.
Required fields are marked *
persianrose❤️战哥
April 27, 2018 at 11:39 PM
After this episode I totally understand why YH had affair with JY, not because she loved him (JY more than anyone knows that YH never loved him), but because he was the very person she could talked/complained about DH (her love)... Regarding DH love for YH, I feel he loves her in a very different way than he loves his original families, friends or colleagues (including JA)... he used to see YH as amazing great woman that he admires but that admiration made him not to show his love comfortably... he never realized how much YH is thirsty/needy for his attention and love... I hope JA becomes their catalyst to save their marriage...
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 8:10 AM
@persianrose Oh, for sure! I never thought Yoon Hee loved Joon Young. Even re-watching episode 1, I realized I had misinterpreted why she was upset at JY for not keeping his mobile phone with him at the office. It was NOT because she was this high-maintenance girlfriend who was completely in love with JY, but because (1) it must have triggered the same feeling of neglect that she has always received from Dong Hoon, and (2) she was only IN the relationship with JY to get the attention and affection she craved (from her husband).
Oh no, stupid adulteress that she is, she has always loved her husband, and would have GLADLY not had an affair if she were not emotionally starved for so many years.
You bring up an excellent point: JY was the only person she could complain to about DH because everyone else in her “circle” were either his family or his neighbors/friends.
I wouldn’t be surprised (if we EVER get to see how they fell in love) if Yoon Hee might have been as isolated as Ji An when they were all in college. Yoon Hee is such an accomplished and intelligent go-getter…yet only now have we heard that she has a mother (who apparently remarried). It sounds like she didn’t have “family”, similar to Ji An. I wonder if that is what drew YH to DH.
Required fields are marked *
persianrose❤️战哥
April 28, 2018 at 10:31 AM
Just imagine how lonely she must felt to use her work break, to go to a 'pay-phone booth' to make a call to a man she didn't even like... no wonder she feels so embarrassed... not only she feels guilty of her affair, but also she's embarrassed that she did such a silly things because of her despration and lonliness... when DH told his reasons for becoming a director, it was obvious how YH is always his last priorities... not that he doesn't love her, but because he has seen her as this independent strong woman she hasn't really need him (such a big misunderstanding, and so typical of men to see their professional intelligent woman as someone who doesn't need their attention)!! YH is such an attention seeker
Required fields are marked *
MikeyD signed up
May 10, 2018 at 9:53 AM
In a weird way I think Joon-young and Yoon-hee are two peas in a pod. They both loved Dong-hoon since college and were both coolly neglected by him, so both 'act out' in retribution. Joon-young still refers to Dong-hoon as his sunbae, even in private.
I get the impression Dong-hoon did the 'honorable' thing after college and married his college girlfriend - because that was the conventional thing to do. Not the most romantic of reasons for marrying.
Required fields are marked *
Ronin
April 28, 2018 at 3:38 AM
The whole time the discussion between DH and YH was taking place I kept thinking of the time when the family were celebrating the mother's birthday, the elder daughter-in-law was helping to set everything out bit whenever YH offered to help she was told to sit down and was treated as a guest. Early on I remember the mother saying that DH had to do well at his job because a man can't let his wife do better than him. While there is no way I can condone adultery I can understand her loneliness in the marriage.
Required fields are marked *
risa
April 28, 2018 at 7:03 AM
And didn't Mom also admit that she had never liked Yoon-hee because she couldn't like any woman who might make her Dong-hoon feel inferior? She's probably been keeping Yoon-hee at arm's length this whole time.
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 8:17 AM
@Ronin @risaa
I actually makes me sad to think that when Ki-Hoon made that quip that Momma Park liked Ae-Ryun (Sang-Hoon's wife) better than YH, Yoon Hee quietly acknowledged "I know." The joke cut too close to the bone.
Not only that, but like @risa said, Momma Park doesn't like YH because she's moresuccessful than Dong Hoon! Like, really?! Having such an amazing daughter-in-law should be a source of pride rather than consternation!
Add to that, Momma Park had asked Dong Hoon if she could mortgage the house he bought her to help Sang-Hoon, when in fact, he and Yoon Hee fronted the money to buy her a home!
And apparently, Yoon Hee went over to Momma Park's place to help her make kimchi after giving birth to Ji Seok. I mean, how many daughter-in-laws would do that?!
@ronin01, oh totally: Momma Park totally treated her like a guest...as in "not family"...and Dong Hoon did NOTHING to make her feel more included.
Required fields are marked *
windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM
I am starting to think that the mother is as much to blame for all these messes as anyone. Misplaced priorities and selfish.
Required fields are marked *
persianrose❤️战哥
April 28, 2018 at 10:40 AM
Every single person in this drama is gray, I also see both mother and big brother very selfish with their love for DH. They always think about their own selfish desires, rather than considering what DH really wants! She wants her son to be above her daughter inlaw is so wrong!! But all these selfishness are so real... parents love can be very selfish in real life!
MikeyD signed up
May 10, 2018 at 9:59 AM
Don-hoon is just as juvenile as his brothers, despite his greater job success. He's still a mama's boy who can't separate from the family nest. There's been no mention of the father. The loss of that father early in their lives probably bonded the little boys to their mother like super-glue.
nombomandco
April 28, 2018 at 2:33 PM
Excellent points...for me it is the degree to which YH cheated. Not only did she have sexual/romantic affair but as DH said - She was aiding and abetting JY in crushing DH and planning on running away with him. I just can't forgive her character for the different levels of betrayal she committed against DH, ever. I don't care what her excuse was because that is what it is an excuse, she could have spoken up, she could have asked for counseling, she could have asked for a separation. Just anything besides sleeping with DH's enemy and work superior as well as putting her own happiness above someone who is the father of her child.
Required fields are marked *
3 jaderjylsk
April 27, 2018 at 8:21 PM
This was such a beautiful episode. ♥ Soo many good stuff!
That scene with Ji-an and the neighborhood gang was so heart-warming. And when she mentioned about life being hard and then everyone stopped and we see that the scene looks like Ji-an is in the middle, surrounded by everyone with her looking like she’s being enveloped in that protective circle? That was soooo beautiful 😭 I’m excited for how much she’s learning to be with people and how much her world is expanding just by being adopted into this ‘neighborhood’!
And the catching-the-last-train scene unexpectedly brought tears to my eyes too. Because Ji-an was part of the group, like she ‘belonged’. And it was so nice to see DH happily working with his team that night, it confirms my belief that DH actually enjoys his job and is passionate about it. That maybe he only started seeing the job as a ‘slaughterhouse’ when JY became CEO.
Ji-an’s speech at the interview was also beautiful. I love that it back-fired for the other team, and the Chairman was there to hear it too! Yey!
Also for the first time since this drama began, my heart fluttered romantically for Ji-an and Dong-hoon in that scene outside the car. 😳
And Kwang-il, oh my! He and Ji-an do go way back and that he had/has feelings for her. What delicious angst, it could be a separate drama on its own!
Yura and Ki-hoon’s story too was surprisingly deeper than it seemed. So unconventional, but so cute together. The actress playing Yura is good, I don’t think I’ve seen her before.
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 27, 2018 at 8:32 PM
Also, this episode we finally get to hear Yoon-hee’s side. I understand better now what prompted her to cheat. I know it’s a real-life problem when couples don’t communicate as is clearly the case here. Yoon-hee having that affair just brought everything to a point of no return.
I do have some questions as to her reason though. Why would she make DH choose between her and his family in the first place? That should never be made into a choice. She knows that DH values his family a lot, that they are an integral part of his life. I would understand if she asked him to minimize it but from what she said in her confession, she seemed to want a drastic separation from DH’s family cos she mentioned them moving away.
After the confession I thought this would be it, I'd finally be able to sympathize with her. But, her conversation with JY left a bad taste in my mouth. I was trying to keep an open mind that maybe she and DH can work it out but all the machinations behind his back even after that confession, I just can’t. I was nodding emphatically when JY told her “If you make everything my fault, do you feel less guilty?” And he was right. ‘Cos in that whole conversation she was playing the victim again. Then she tells JY she can’t stand to see him bring DH down after he ruined her too. And I’m like, ruin her? She ruined herself. She wasn’t coerced into having that affair. But she was making it sound like it was JY’s plan all along.
And she keeps saying that she wants to die of embarrassment for liking JY. But that sounds to me like she found out JY is a jerk (through the recording Ji-an played for her) and she’s embarrassed for loving a jerk, not embarrassed that she had an affair. It’s so self-centered. Maybe like JY, her character is supposed to be a villain too and that I should stop trying so hard to sympathize with her or look for something to redeem her actions.
Required fields are marked *
Moonbean
April 27, 2018 at 10:13 PM
I don't see Yoon Hee as a villain. Villains enjoy hurting others, they are bad by nature, don’t feel sympathy, pity, nothing for others. But as you say she is no victim either – no matter how hard she tries to portray herself like that. I do feel sorry for her unhappiness and loneliness in her marriage but her response to it was so wrong that no explanation can justify it. The reason I still do not like her is related to something you said. She is acting like this now because she found out what a sleazebag Joon Young is. My problem is that she did not realize what she was doing is wrong and stop it herself and try to redeem herself or atone for the wrongs she has done. Her affair ended due to circumstances outside of her. She would have been still with Joon Young now if Dong Hoon did not learn of it and ask Joon Young to put a end to it. So to me her guilt, regret etc. now is not of a person who is truly sorry for her wrongs but of a person who got caught. That's why the thing that torments her the most is the fact that Dong Hoon knows.
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 28, 2018 at 12:56 AM
Yes exactly. Even during her confession she said something like "As soon as I found out you knew, I wanted to die. I couldn't believe what I had done. I wanted to die because I hated myself." There, it's all I, I, me, me. Not so much on what she'd done to DH or her family as a whole. All that came out of DH not her.
Also clearly she only realized her wrong when DH found out. But she never felt remorse the whole time she was sleeping with JY. What, you only regret when you've been found out?
During the confession I was really starting to root for YH. But then the next scenes were just. Smh
You are right about her not being a villain. She isn't in the same league as JY. I guess I meant she's not meant to be painted in a sympathetic light? 'Cos I was expecting the show to eventually make me sympathetic for her but I think she's written to be that way
Required fields are marked *
Zema
February 6, 2021 at 8:59 PM
Well said. I agree on all points; YH wasnt a villain here, she wasnt even vindictive towards DH, but she was no victim either. I could imagine her continuing the affair indefinitely if it werent for the blow up (as you said, borne from circumstances outside of her) and that in and of itself cemented my belief that YH and DH should not be together. Forgiveness and healing, sure. But to reconcile?
Required fields are marked *
Islander north
April 28, 2018 at 10:29 AM
It's hard to watch the infidelity play out since we just saw Lee Sun-Kyun go through all this in "This Week My Wife Will Have An Affair"!
Required fields are marked *
cariad
April 28, 2018 at 11:59 PM
Wow! the comments and thoughts of everyone here are just amazing... loving all these analysis and how complex the human heart is. I felt that Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon's love for each other are so different that is why they could never come to a place to meet and CONNECT... Yoon Hee wanted to feel loved in an all encompassing way and that anything or anyone that makes her share Dong Hoon's love makes her feel inadequate, lonely and hungry for the kind of love she really wanted... whereas Dong Hoon's heart has always been too BIG for him and because of that his kind of love can never only be for just one person... Dong Hoon is the type of person who shows love through loyalty and never letting go and because his heart is BIG he gives them to everyone in his circle... the tragedy was that Yoon Hee never really understood that about Dong Hoon and Dong Hoon never realized that how he loves and who he is makes his wife feel lonely and deprived...for me this is a case of loving someone but that love is not enough to BE WITH that someone... i feel like their love for each other is doomed from the start because WHO they are is just so different from each other....The reason Dong Hoon and Ji An's relationship is much more stronger than Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon could ever be even though Ji An and Dong Hoon's relationship arise from their realization that they are no longer alone in that DARK place that their lives are currrently in right now is that because they somehow just simply CONNECT and BOND without so much effort... This show just amazes me how it depicts so wonderfully and so visually what SOULMATES really is.... That for me was the tragedy and beauty of the two different relationships in Dong Hoon's life...
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 29, 2018 at 4:08 AM
Very well said! 🙂
Required fields are marked *
cariad
April 30, 2018 at 6:58 AM
Thanks :)
MapleSilver
April 30, 2018 at 11:42 AM
I LOVE the way you laid out the difference between how Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon look at love. No wonder their relationship is difficult. So well said.
Required fields are marked *
cariad
May 1, 2018 at 3:42 AM
Thanks :) really love this show...
BEANEE
May 9, 2018 at 2:00 AM
cariad love your comments! This so brings to mind the book "The Five Love Languages" by by Gary Chapman. As I was watching their heartbreaking scenes I just thought to myself that YoonHee and DongHon never understood what language spoke to their partner. From's YoonHee's perspective I believe she required words of affirmation and quality time from DongHoon because she stated how much an outsider she felt throughout their marriage in comparison to Dong Hoon's deep loyalty and commitment to his family. In her mind she was never his 'first' or even 'second' for that matter. Sadly DongHoon's thought his acts of service (keeping the house clean, turning the TV sound down, asking what she needed when he was shopping, etc.) was showing his love for her. I think for DongHoon he also desired words of affirmation from YoonHee because I fell that although he has been very loyal to his family he also felt the enormity of the weight in his attempts to be that perfect son 'who could not mess up' like his brothers. The peace maker who just wanted to live a quiet life. This episode shed some light about YoonHee's feeling but I still found her to be so self absorbed in her pain and frankly I still have a very hard time understanding why she chose to have an affair vs. really talking to DongHoon about her feelings of isolation and loneliness. Even DongHoon stated he could have understood her asking for a divorce vs. having an affair with a man he despises. And to make matters worst wishing for him to get fired. I just don't see their relationship bouncing back from that type of betrayal. Wow only four more episodes and I am biting my nails crazy to see what will happen. LUV LUV LUV THIS DRAMA!!!
Required fields are marked *
PeepsLeAwesomePotato
April 29, 2018 at 4:46 AM
I'm with you.
I understand why YoonHee wants DongHoon to show his love in the way she wants. What I don't understand is why she's doing it passive-aggressively and not just saying it.
Obviously DongHoon is going to do what he thinks is right in his perspective and that's being with his family and friends even if she's too busy to come or if he thinks she doesn't want to come given the disinterest he obviously thinks she has for them and not going to be able to read her mind and do what she doesn't say she want because he just isn't a mind reader.
How do you go from stewing in unhappiness and straight to affair without even confronting the problem? I mean, yeah, DongHoon sucks as a husband but I ain't cutting YoonHee slack nor am I understanding her.
Required fields are marked *
irmar
May 4, 2018 at 12:20 PM
The driving force behind most Korean dramas is misunderstandings because of poor communication. If people just sat down to talk things over, dramas would only last 8 episodes instead of 16. OR the writers could find another kind of obstacle, because this one is becoming a bit tiresome by now.
Required fields are marked *
MikeyD signed up
May 10, 2018 at 10:05 AM
I'm reminded of mom's birthday party. The sister-in-law asks Yoon-hee why she never gripes about her husband. She gives him a long look and says he never listens anyway so its pointless. I get the impression she had 'that conversation' with her husband 2 years into the marriage, the 3 years, then 4. Eventually you just give up trying.
Required fields are marked *
ElKwesi
May 2, 2018 at 6:19 PM
Dong-Hoon liking his job is something that I think about all the time when I'm watching this. It like, does anyone actually do work at this company besides Dong-Hoon team?! Everyone else is having fights over this this dumb turf war and I'm just thinking, who is running this company, do any of you do work!?!?!?!
Required fields are marked *
4 Beverly
April 27, 2018 at 8:31 PM
You do a wonderful job recapping and it's appreciated.
I have some friends I wish would watch this , it is just so good. It is hard to find the words to describe it, especially when sone descriptors could turn some away, like slow and bleak. Lol.
With Kwang-il I can feel bad for the boy he was and life he had to lead. Also, all the bad choices that led and keep him where he is even if I do not feel sorry for the man who preys on others.
It sounds like YH never directly told DH what she needed from him and then DH acted like there was nothing to hear. And I'm not condoning her behavior either, especially conspiring to take his career from him. But so much regret and missed chances in that marriage.
I want all of DH's friends to adopt JA. I need Jung Hee to not be so lonely either.
Required fields are marked *
5 Key🍜
April 27, 2018 at 8:32 PM
Comment was deleted
Required fields are marked *
6 gadis
April 27, 2018 at 8:34 PM
Ji-an really is the boss here, even when she was called to give her testimony about Dong-hoon for the director election. She should be the one who felt like sitting on a trial, yet somehow she made them all hanging to her each and every answers like it's their lifeline without realizing. While that was a heartfelt scene where we can clearly see where her everlasting loyalty lies, it was also kinda funny to see her easily played the atmosphere in that room.
When Director Yoon persistently asked her "How far you two have gone?", I outright chuckled when she purposefully gave a misleading half-answer: Home. Only to made it clear that they lived in the same neighborhood several beats after Yoon silently celebrating his 'clever' question. I can almost see her rolling her eyes in her mind that there is someone who actually believe that Dong-hoon could do something like that. And later when Director Janh told Dong-hoon that Ji-an is clever and she handled things well, I was all "If only you know how clever she truly is." If there is one person I could trust to single-handedly save Dong-hoon from being used in this political machination, that would be her.
Required fields are marked *
lemoncello
April 28, 2018 at 9:31 PM
and she told them sincerely in the hearing.... I understand Director Yoon expression when he'd wanted to use Jian to fail Dong-hoon, but it ended this earned point for DH.
Required fields are marked *
7 Key🍜
April 27, 2018 at 8:36 PM
TY for the recap, @Lollypip.
Oh, show.. how i love you. All your mixed signals. Paraphrasing one sayings - some shows should be tasted, some devoured, but only a few should be chewed and digested thoroughly. My Ajusshi really amaze the senses and challenge the mind to the point of exhaustion, and I think that's what makes for some of the best dramas.
DH and YH in ep11-12. Oh boy! It was intense.
IMO - Good marriage (..well ideally)- is built on three things. Love, respect and trust. All elements have to be there. And it has to be mutual. You can have love for someone, but if you don't have respect and/or trust, the marriage will crumble eventually.
I don't think she truly respect DH. She obviously can't accept all of him and his background. YH wanted his undivided affection for herself, there's nothing wrong with this, but she married the wrong man for that. And he definitely lost his sense of trust in YH. Of course love is not the only reason people marry, but without trust and respect i don't see how this relationship can be repaired.
JH and the Monk.
It seems he made this big decision by himself, but they both lived all these years with the consequences of this decision.
And he is whole, but she is broken.
It was painful to watch. My heart hurts for JH.
DH consistently waiting for JA and JA consistently listening for DA - this two will be the end of me.
DH monologue
- What did you do with my slippers?
- I'm too old to... I'm begging you let's do that. -
And when JA tell grandma
- I'm happy... I'm close to someone like him...I'm happy.
The exact moment JA was adopted by the neighborhood.
The moment when Jian see DH across the street an his stare that is somewhat.. almost longing?
Scene in the train.
Also Dong-Hoon's legal team thinks Ji-An ain't pretty. But, as we already known, DH on the other hand think she is (he calls her "pretty girl" in conversation with cafe owner)😏
PD/writer this evil mastermind duo. No romance they said, no love line..
All this little moments make my heart painfully flutter.
P.S.
Simon and Garfunkel song (they use it in ep11 bus scene) gave a very apt narration
for this two episode.
I'd rather be a sparrow than a snail
Yes I would, if I could, I surely would
I'd rather be a hammer than a nail
Yes I would, if I only could, I surely would
Required fields are marked *
MapleSilver
April 27, 2018 at 8:52 PM
You didn't get to the good part:
Away, I'd rather sail away
Like a swan that's here and gone
A man gets tied up to the ground
He gives the world
Its saddest sound
Its saddest sound
Required fields are marked *
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
April 27, 2018 at 9:21 PM
Especially in Korea, where the sparrows lord it over the snails even more than in the rest of the world.
Required fields are marked *
Jackie
April 27, 2018 at 10:13 PM
I came to think that the PD/writer initially clarified that this isn't a romance drama because of the backlash over the huge age gap between IU and LSK.
But when, they gave us so many heart fluttering moments with the stolen glances, frantic run, shy smiles. I came to think they were testing the water to see how viewers will react. I hope with the positive reactions, something good will come out for the remaining episodes.
I will be very vocal. I need romance to happen between DH and JA. Yes please 🙏🙏🙏🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️
Required fields are marked *
Chojungseok's광대
April 27, 2018 at 11:43 PM
I totally agree with you that they're testing the waters. Honestly even withouth those skinships, IU and LSK chemistry are so good, idk how do they even do that, those simple dong hoon and ji an moments where they're just staring at each other or walking talking makes my heart flutter. I know i know, this drama won't have a loveline but, c'mon you can't deny that chemistry!
Required fields are marked *
Islander north
April 28, 2018 at 10:32 AM
Not all chemistry is sexual; it can be platonic, a realization that someone understands you.
Required fields are marked *
lemoncello
April 28, 2018 at 9:54 PM
Ditto!
If it's love, it could be platonic. If the writer and PD decided not to make an obvious love line, I'm just okay with platonic love and an open ending.
cariad
May 1, 2018 at 3:53 AM
When you described the heart fluttering moments of DH and JA, I realized why this show and their relationship is exactly my cup of tea, and how it still make me feel that it's romantic... their interactions and developments are so like in the olden times/period era and DH and JA felt so much like old souls... they are like Jane Austen characters reborn in modern times to me... oh my this show will be the death of me....
Required fields are marked *
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
May 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM
Mileage truly does vary. I literally just typed that if they introduced a love line between DH and JA, it would produce levels of fury from me that are on par with Black. It would utterly destroy the show for me on a fundamental level. I can not overstate how much I would loathe it.
Required fields are marked *
MapleSilver
May 1, 2018 at 10:50 PM
It does. At the end, very possibly half the watching population will jump up and cheer while the other half curse or feel deeply betrayed. Let's see if the writer/director can come up with something that pleases both sides while staying away from an open-ended conclusion.
Required fields are marked *
Zema
February 6, 2021 at 9:07 PM
Yes, whenever DH starts to search for her my heart aches just a little bit more. Then when the scene cuts to JA in the dingy dark room, unknowingly listening in on DH.... just break my heart all over again why dont ya??? This drama is painfully beautiful, searching, honest. And these two have been the death of me over the past 48 hours that I decided to binge on all 16 episodes. I feel bruised inside. How will I ever cope after ep 16?
Required fields are marked *
8 Kafiyah Bello
April 27, 2018 at 8:38 PM
This show, this show, this show. The devil is in the details, it's the little things that count, and big things come in small packages. That is the genius of this drama. The minute detail of Kwang -il talking about the hill he used to carry her on when his father beat her, the crushing loneliness that Yoon-Hee felt; to the point that she cheated on her husband with someone he dislike because that was the only way she knew how to punish him for his separation, the small yet hopeful glance Ji-Ah makes every time she talks about Dong Hoon, and the simple kindness that Dong Hoon gives to Ji-ah simply by walking her home. Brilliant, utterly, fantastically, brilliant.
Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee fight was worth everything. She and he both knew the cheating was bad, but he needed to know how lonely he made her. I hope they can forgive each other even if they don't stay married.
I cried when Kwang-il and Ji-Ah talked. It was a very poignant conversation. As most of the beanies and I suspected, he loved her and maybe still loves her, but he felt guilty that he loved her when she was also responsible for his father's death. His only way of coping with the guilt was beating her, at the same time Ji-Ah also felt guilty and so took the beating. This short, yet simple conversation resolved or at least brought to the forefront that nothing either them was doing was helpful. Him beating her didn't absolve his guilt and her taking the beating didn't make her feel better.
Yu-ra and Ki-Hoon. Talk about a hot mess of a couple. The two of them deserve each other, lol.
My favorite scene of this episode was when Ji-Ah told Dong Hoon he was a good person, by repeating what he said to her, right back at him. Just flawless.
I also really enjoyed Ji-Ah in the boardroom and her simple, yet clear statement about what kindness can do for a person.
Jung-Hee, the poor woman needs to let go. Unfortunately, it sounds like Gyeom-Duk didn't give her the curtesy of closure. Shame on him for that, she deserves better. Also they should talk. lol
In the end communication is the name of the game unlike certain misty, I mean foggy dramas. The writer gets it. Communication is key.
Finally it has been an honest and true pleasure to watch this drama and talk/type about it with the beanies here. Thank you Dramabeans
Required fields are marked *
9 pineapplegongzhu
April 27, 2018 at 8:38 PM
Comment was deleted
Required fields are marked *
10 pineapplegongzhu
April 27, 2018 at 8:40 PM
HOT DANG if this Show doesn’t have the best One-Liner Quotes!!!
SANG-HOON:
“Well, I park him next to a pretty car every night. ‘Have fun. Don’t do anything foolish.’”
[Looking at the sleek, black SUV] “That car’s male. I never park him next to cars like that. He gets discouraged.”
HAHAHAHA! I seriously love this Show’s humor. For all of Sang-Hoon eye-rolling-worthy monologues and stupidity, he’s great for a laugh.
KI-HOON
“Fine! I’ll just believe it’s something about work.”
“It’s crazy attractive. I get really sexy. The words that come out are like art.”
"Mom, I have a girlfriend!”
I love how Ki Hoon is so perceptive, he isn’t fooled by Dong Hoon’s lies. He even asked if DH fought with his wife. The youngest brother, hothead failed-director that he is, is one sharp nail! I found his monologue about saving up all his rage for the person he wants to have a fight with hilarious in its pompous self-importance and self-satisfied strutting. HAHAHA! And it’s super cute that FINALLY in episode 11, he and Yu-Ra finally get together. Those crazy kids….
JI-AN
“You didn’t make it clear.”
Ji An certainly doesn’t mince words. I’m glad she called him out on his ambiguous actions and words! Heck, even his feelings towards her are ambiguous! But, Dong Hoon’s response was pretty spot on: she looked to him for comfort as another pitiful person. Isn’t that what we’ve all said all along? They are soulmates in their isolation, loneliness and pitifulness.
DONG-HOON
“I just don’t know how to end this relationship that we’ve maintained for 20 years.”
Yes, and that’s the problem, Dong Hoon. You can never conceive of walking away or separating from family, because family is forever. But, you thought that if you loved her the way you loved the others in your life that would be enough. But, it wasn’t…because she wanted all of you. She wanted to be first in your heart. You “maintained” the marriage, but you didn’t give what was needed to make it flourish.
JOON-YOUNG
"What’s wrong with all the women in Park Dong Hoon’s life?”
Oh, Joon Young….if only you knew that women rank men on different standards than men rank each other….. but then again, you wouldn’t believe it, which is why you can’t conceive as to why women will always prefer Dong Hoon to you, you slimeball.
KWANG-IL
The way up to your house is similar to that hill. The hill that I climbed with you on my back when you passed out from my father’s beatings.>/I>
Why does Show tease us with these tragic relationships in the past but don’t expound on them?!
Jung Hee: Ki-Hoon is the one with girl problems. He likes someone.
Momma Park: What is she like? Is she weird?
Jung Hee: She suits Ki Hoon.
Momma Park: Is she really weird?...
Required fields are marked *
Melona
April 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM
Totally agree with you on Joon-young. He doesn't understand why women like Dong-hoon when he thinks he's plain and unattractive to men. Um, sorry to break it to you McJerk-face, but smart women can tell the difference between shit or soybean paste without having to taste it. That's why they always pick Dong-hoon over you.
Required fields are marked *
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
May 1, 2018 at 8:49 PM
We already knew that Joan-Young was motivated by extreme jealousy right back to University and that's what has driven him all this time. He's younger, better looking, more successful and wealthier and in this culture that should make him the most attractive, right? Right?
And can I just say how great it is to watch a kdrama where women like men for being kind? Because in real life, kindness trumps those other things for most women. But dramaland always insists that women want wealthy, good looking assholes. We really don't!
Required fields are marked *
mrsdimple
April 29, 2018 at 11:42 PM
Reading the dialogues in the written form made me realized once again, that it is indeed a masterpiece. If they turn the whole drama into novels, I am pretty sure I will finish reading it in one sitting.
Required fields are marked *
11 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
April 27, 2018 at 8:40 PM
IU: I wouldn't have thought it was possible to give such a memorable performance by talking (mostly) in a flat monotone and spending so much time looking almost expressionless.
Of course, it helps to have a good script. I'll bet the PD of this show isn't feeling any of the despair that Ji-hoon was talking about.
Required fields are marked *
Beverly
April 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM
And then she will let that facade slip a bit, like with her "Thank you" or "Fighting". Or her recent conversation with her Grandma. The way her expression and vocal tone changes...so good.
Required fields are marked *
SadKDramaLama
June 25, 2019 at 1:14 AM
@lordcobol
Brilliant directing. Realising the script carried the momentum, the director has given the actors space to play with nuance...so when the script demands, the slightest ramp up is heart wrenching.
The story has such a unyielding momentum, all the pressure and impact is achieved by subtle moments or changing to the ensemble cast. Seriously how good is the Grandmother. Such a physical role with no words and limited movement - yet her and IU are compelling, full of guilt and love.
Sadly, at the moment, KDrama has forgotten its history of great scripts and too many are just link ungrounded tropes - requiring the actors to over play it to try and carry the scene. Not this one. My Ajusshi is a keeper.
Required fields are marked *
12 OregonPDX
April 27, 2018 at 8:57 PM
The scene where JH is looking out of the window of the passing car and sees JA standing on the street corner is froth with pathos. You can just feel his heart call out to her. In his mind a mantra of “if only, if only, if only”. She is his soul mate, at the most emotional level of shared understanding and intuitive self-knowing and that doesn’t even include the obvious physical attraction that exists and he knows it. But he is trapped in his sensibilities, cautious demeanor, impeccable need to “do the right thing” which tells him that it just isn’t possible and in that there is great sadness.
For JA, it’s clear now that her love for JH is not just fake, a part of the manipulation that her scheming might have required. Her eyes say that this is the man that I want to; make meals with, watch movies, hold hands, caress, snuggle, cuddle, tickle, laugh, sleep with every night, and wake up to every morning. Everything about her says “I can love you like no other. You are for me and I am for you. I can wait. And at 21 she is living for that moment and could care less about JH’s age and is still believing that it might be possible. Sadly I don’t see any way for this to happen with JH’s sensibilities and the gigantic cultural negatives that forbid this. So no matter how the story ends JA ends up with a broken heart.
Required fields are marked *
MapleSilver
April 27, 2018 at 9:16 PM
You put in words what Ji An and DH feel in their hearts. So so beautifully expressed. After this episode, can anyone still say there is only platonic or fraternal feelings between these two? I am hoping that the new DH will, for once, live for himself
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 28, 2018 at 1:09 AM
Um, me! 🙋♀️ I still think the relationship will be platonic.. hehe
I mean Ji-an likes him I acknowledge. But I think DH doesn't like her that way. I don't see anything romantic in his gestures and glances towards her so far. So their relationship will be platonic in the end. I think the fluttering I felt this ep was because I as a viewer know they would make a great couple if ever the show became like that.
But again, we still have 4 eps to go. Romance or not, it would make sense either way because the show is amazing so I wouldn't mind if they end up together :)
Required fields are marked *
missjb
April 28, 2018 at 1:30 AM
I still don't find it romantic on paper. The soulmates can be interpreted differently. Like you can be soulmate without any physicall attraction between man and woman kind of way. I dare to say they won't go there. They already clarify it.
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 28, 2018 at 2:18 AM
To be honest I actually felt the scene with the slippers was the confirmation that their relationship will be platonic. That was DH defining what their relationahip will be. It's Ji-an being in a one sided like. But then again, it could also be just admiration with all that DH has done and all the she has heard about his character.
I guess I'm trying to keep an open mind on where the drama will go. Lol
I do agree with you, one can find a soulmate but not necessarily be in love in the romantic sense. I also feel that is how they are.
Ronin
April 28, 2018 at 3:48 AM
I agree with you, I think what JA is finding is a sense of family and place as shown in that beautifully shot scene when everyone walked her home and later when KI was talking to her the neighbour up the back opened his window to check on her and that's something she had never had before, there's never been anyone to just casually care for her. While there may at times be some overtones of awareness I feel it's just until she sorts out what she is feeling. The same with DH, while he may be feeling a slight frisson every now and then I feel he is too moral a man to want to take things any further.
Required fields are marked *
MapleSilver
April 28, 2018 at 1:01 PM
Whether the show goes platonic or romantic depends on the writer/director. But there is no doubt in my mind that they see each other a lot more than strictly platonic, even if they choose not to act on their feelings.
Required fields are marked *
KSKalways
May 4, 2018 at 11:31 AM
I don't see anything romantic either...
their relationship is wooonderful, but "romantic"?... not for me, no.
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
May 4, 2018 at 1:34 PM
Yeah.. I've been re-watching some scenes since there were no eps this week and still, I don't see anything lover-like-romantic in DH's actions, glances or reactions towards JA.
Like some few beanies have mentioned, I also find DH's reactions to JA more in-line with the fact that he finds it disconcerting/puzzling that she KNOWS him, the REAL him. To think that he puts so much effort in keeping things to himself, yet she SEES him and UNDERSTANDS him... And that makes him drawn to her, hence the long looks and glances.
That's my interpretation thus far.
potatodrama
April 28, 2018 at 7:45 AM
The look on JH eyes in the end of the episode said it all. He is in love with her.
Required fields are marked *
missjb
April 27, 2018 at 9:37 PM
Sometimes it's just happen. Alot of people find their soulmates at the right time. But select of people actually find soulmates when the world and live they are living has already set for them and can't be changed that easily. When there is a bigger issue in their shoulder to overcome. When our soulmates arrive too late arrive in our life to make us embrace her/him presence.
Required fields are marked *
SadKDramaLama
June 25, 2019 at 1:30 AM
@missjb
How did this comment not become famous? Its so beautiful.
Required fields are marked *
JP
July 17, 2020 at 7:49 PM
Spot-on about that scene. But the scene in this episode that really blew me away was on the subway ride. When JA tenderly tells Dong Hoon that she worked overtime that night with the hope that he would return to the office because “I missed you,” I felt her words shoot down my spine. Then she nearly lectures him on why she likes him even more than before. This time there is no duality in her declaration, no coyness, no confusion. To me, this was a crystal-clear admission of love and desire, one JA likely never had spoken before in her young and troubled life. She says it not with hesitation but as a simple fact, and she’s not embarrassed.
And when you look at DH’s expression when she says it, you can see he knows her filter has been removed, at least temporarily. It’s a powerful moment. (No wonder she then says, “Why are you looking at me like that?”) There's plenty of debate here about how DH can/can't process or accept what she's saying, but that look shows he hears JA loud and clear. It's a look of stunned realization.
And the cinematography in that scene: The side of JA’s face as she looks down at DH while outside the window the dark subway tunnel races by in a blur. Wow.
Required fields are marked *
13 Jellybn
April 27, 2018 at 8:58 PM
You do a super, great job in your recaps @lollypip! I wish we could like recaps as well so you could know that I'm at home nodding my head in agreement to what you are saying. I'm more of a talker than a writer so to all beanies that can express their feelings well in the comments, thank you and lollypip, as well, because it really does feel like I am watching a drama with friends!
Required fields are marked *
14 mushroomsoupie
April 27, 2018 at 8:59 PM
I think the beauty of Ji An and Dong Hoon's relationship is it can't really be defined. Feels like watching a Hayao Miyazaki movie, where relationships can't be defined as black or white. What's understood, can't be explained... but we somehow have an understanding. It's up to the viewers to interpret it. That's why for me it's okay if there's a divided response to the relationship between DH and JA. It's okay if you don't want to see them as a couple, but it's also not wrong to ship them together.
Required fields are marked *
15 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
April 27, 2018 at 9:08 PM
That scene is one of my favorites too, among many others. Thinking about it again makes me teary-eyed. It made me realize again how important friends are. Dong-hoon and the rest of the gang grew up together till they had wives and kids, probably shared their problems and all. Then I thought of Ji-an, 21 years old, faced a lot of struggles alone with no one to talk too and somehow lessen her pain. It just breaks my heart.
I hope Ji-an will be become part of this neigborhood-family.
Required fields are marked *
16 Moonbean
April 27, 2018 at 9:11 PM
The conversation between Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee was exactly what I would have expected from what I know of her character so far. In response to Dong Hoon’s question “why?” everything that came out of her mouth was blaming him. “Because you didn’t put me first as I did you. Because you wouldn’t change. Because you wouldn’t leave this neighborhood. Because you made me feel lonely.” All these clearly show that Dong Hoon was not a good husband to Yoon Hee. However, none of these are answers to his question why he did this to her. If you are unhappy in your marriage/relationship broadly you have three choices: 1) accept the things as they are and do nothing 2) Try to talk to him and see whether it is possible to change things so they both will be happy 3) accept this won’t work and walk away. As far as we know she did neither of these things. Sure she indicated she said she wanted to move from the neighborhood or that she complained about the amount of time he spent with his family during previous arguments but we don’t know whether she sat him down outside of an argument about drinking and said “Look, I am not happy, this relationship isn’t working for me, let’s talk about whether we still want to be in it and if so what can we do to fix it”. She brings these up to explain why she had an affair. Well, that doesn’t cut it for me.
What this fight showed me was that these two people are not a good match to begin with. The way they view life, love, marriage, family is very different and they can never be happy together. Even if his brothers were not losers and could take care of their mom Dong Hoon wouldn’t be happy if he abandoned his family the way Yoon Hee expects. And his family is even more extended than that including the neighborhood people. We don’t know whether she has family but clearly she expects Dong Hoon to adopt her views on what is family and what is love (and her view is: “I am your family and if I am not first with you that is not love”). That is a very big ask and not fitting Dong Hoon’s character. I loved the scene of Dong Hoon’s friends walking Ji An home along with Dong Hoon and one of them asking an acquaintance who happens to be Ji An’s neighbor to keep an eye on her. This is what family is to these people, not Yoon Hee’s limited description so Dong Hoon would never be happy if he acted the way Yoon Hee wanted.
I don't understand Yoon Hee at all. If she loved Dong Hoon the way she described how could she like Joon Young at all? What was even the point of an affair during which she acted like she would abandon her husband and marry someone else? If Joon Young gave her what she wanted (being put first) maybe I could have seen the attraction but his priority wasn't her either but his position. Did she not mind in that case as Joon Young was never first with her? Did she not care as long as his first wasn't other people?
Required fields are marked *
nerdy
April 27, 2018 at 11:59 PM
Actually I had trouble understanding her reasoning. Dong hoon goes to drink with his brothers three times a week and two days he plays football with his neighborhood. Correct me if I am wrong but is it that much? They are not even far away, it would take 3 hours max. Plus he never forgot that he had a wife and child, he wanted a big car to ride with his relatives AND wife, he does all the housework because she comes home tired and keeps the volume down so she wouldn't be bothered. Would it make her feel better if he ignored his brothers? I have no idea how someone would want this type of husband.
If anything, I wonder if Yoon Hee is at fault for not being part of that family, did she ever attempt to get to know his friends? Those Ajusshis are definitely friendly (as seen in their interaction with Ji Ah), so even one smile would be enough for them. It actually looks like to me that Yoon Hee looks down on this people...
Required fields are marked *
bigmomma12345
April 28, 2018 at 6:49 AM
It is all about exoe tations and the differences between men and women. Women want love while men crave respect.
Yoon Hee’s expectation was/is “if you truly love someone, you put them ahead of everyone else in your life.” Thus she never felt truly loved by Dong Hoon because he always chose his family over her.
Dong Hoon’s expectation seems to be “if you love me you will respect me for being a good son, husband, father”. He takes care of his mother and brothers, despite not being the oldest and by working at a job he doesn’t necessarily like. He takes care of his wife by helping her succeed at her job, even though she is more successful than he is. He is showing her his love through works, not words. (And being married to an engineer myself, trust me, this is just how engineers are 😉😂).
Unfortunately, their expectations don’t match up and are unrealistic for each other. It is a shame they chose to live in their dissatisfaction rather than talking it out and working through it. Because it seems that they both started out truly loving each other - they just failed in the execution and expression of it once real life kicked in.
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 8:30 AM
@bigmomma12345, so true!
Although, it seemed to me that Yoon Hee tried on several occasions to address the problem. We see that especially in Episode 6 when Dong Hoon is reliving memories of arguments he had with his wife after piecing together the affair.
Of course, Yoon Hee is attempting to communicate her expectations and unhappiness in a way that is intelligible to her, but obviously goes by Dong Hoon's head.
I think this is why I love this drama as much as I do. It takes very relatable, ordinary, understandable marital situations, and presents them in a way that is both compelling, incisive, and moving.
In a way, I do hope they can patch things up because those expectations (however unrealistic) aren't unreasonable. They just have to figure out a way to navigate how to fulfill what the other person wants.
Required fields are marked *
windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:49 AM
I think you missed what I thought was the most telling comment from her - about how he was spending time with "his family", but she was not part of his family.
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 3:42 PM
@windsun33, I'm glad you brought that up because what I find interesting as I glean through the episodes again that there are really subtle ways that Dong Hoon actually puts Yoon Hee last.
That's not to say he doesn't love her, or hasn't tried to love her to the best of his abilities, but his devotion to his family-of-origin and his wider neighborhood community actually leaves very little time for others.
You know what I found most interesting? During their argument, he said
While I understand that Dong Hoon is trying to appeal to Yoon Hee as a mother, laying out that her actions have ramifications on her son as well, it's actually telling that he never refers to Yoon Hee directly as his wife. It's never "You're my wife. You shouldn't have done this." It's "You're Ji Seok's mother..." and "you wouldn't have thought to destroy his father."
Required fields are marked *
bigmomma12345
April 28, 2018 at 4:43 PM
Interesting catch there! The subtleties of this show just kill me. So well thought out and just so real.
sakurasblossomagain
May 1, 2018 at 7:02 PM
But I think this is a natural thing for an old school Korean father to say. I've seen this type of conversation in may Korean shows like I can't do this to my son's father, etc. There is huge socio-cultural significance to saying Jiseok omma or Jiseok appa. Actually, my Korean language professor once shared with the class that romantic love and saying I love you is a fairly new concept in Korean culture.
sakurasblossomagain
May 1, 2018 at 7:08 PM
this is so inline with the writers trying to bring to light the idea of the ajusshi. he's the old school hero and has old school ideals. he's very different from his wife who is a modern woman. it makes it difficult for their marriage but it's what makes it possible for him to take care of his clan so well which he's extended to jian.
ElKwesi
May 2, 2018 at 6:34 PM
Thats something that I caught too. He referred to her as his son's mother, but not as his wife. And I think that shows the disconnect between them.
cariad
May 1, 2018 at 4:18 AM
Exactly... Yoon Hee is a bit of a snob... Yoon Hee prefers an exclusive relationship but unfortunately she fell in love with someone who loves inclusively... And you are so right... Yoon Hee could have the chosen to also accept DH's family as her family even though DH's family is just too big for her to handle... I mean even Yoo Ra and Ji An were easily welcomed into DH's circle... I think because Yoo Ra and Ji An are broken people who feels comfortable in also being with the people in DH's circle who are all broken people themselves. I think Yoon Hee is broken but she is not comfortable in accepting her vulnerability hence she can't also handle being in DH's circle because of that...her way of dealing with her brokenness is always to hide it that is why she also resorted in having a secret affair... my favorite part that showcases how Ji An is so different from Yoon Hee was that scene where she told Jung Hee and everyone how she wanted to quickly get to their age because she believes life then will not be as hard... you could see everyone immediately gravitates to Ji An and understood why DH is friends with Ji An because they recognize the same broken soul same as themselves... you see how they immediately felt protective towards her and how they have told her implicitly that you are one of us now... you are part of our community... our family... in all the 15 to 20 years Yoon Hee would have plenty of opportunity to be part of that but she never wanted to... she chose the scumbag who she thought depict what true success is but she never realized that she has chosen a shallow fake one... hence why I like Ji An more than Yoon Hee and I believe Dong Hoon will agree with me :)
Required fields are marked *
MapleSilver
May 1, 2018 at 9:22 AM
Again, I agree with your analysis of Yoon Hee. The friends at the bar obviously bear no ill feelings toward her, even sending food for her, etc. She herself is not open to that circle, perhaps from her need to have Dong Hoon all to herself.
Required fields are marked *
BEANEE
May 9, 2018 at 2:44 AM
One thought I had in terms of YoonHee's comment about DongHoon's deep loyality and commitment to his family (both blood and friends) is that all of them have the shared experience of what they deem 'failures' in their lives i.e. jobs, relationships, money, ambition, etc. From the onset of this drama and in each episode the conversations held speak to what each individual deems a failure in their lives. And the conversations run the gamete from incredibly heart wrenching to comedic perfection. But directly or indirectly YoonHee was never part of those conversations. Everyone has beeb polite and always had words of praise about her procession as a successful lawyer. I don't know if she could have connected with them on that level or visa versa. That in itself kept both parties at a distance from each other. Neither party to blame but I'm sure it added to the isolation and loneliness YoonHee expressed. I do have to end by saying that in my opinion her having an affair was still a piss poor excuse. lol
Required fields are marked *
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
May 1, 2018 at 8:58 PM
I think the fault lies ultimately with DH's mother. She segregated Yoon Hee from the beginning. She wanted her son to marry up but not so far up that he wasn't in charge.
But ultimately these two people are just a bad match. They're not able to communicate with each other, they want different things from their marriage and now things have been done that can't be undone.
Required fields are marked *
IamPilgrim
April 28, 2018 at 12:24 AM
I also struggle with Yoon Hee. Right from the beginning, I’d never hated here and I still don’t but at least, I sort of understood her. It was obvious their marriage was shaky and unloving. As you said, they’re both so incompatible, I wonder what even got them together in the first place.
Cheating cases like this are never really clear. Like, it’s easy for an outsider to rule it and make it black and white but as human emotions are messy and complicated, so is the situation. I do agree that Yoon Hee only ever blames other people for her actions. It seems true to character.
But what I really struggled with was how she blamed Joon Young for everything. How she adopted the victim’s mentality like Joon Young forced her into the affair. It went on for a year!
And they didn’t even break-up because she realized just what she was doing to him. They broke up due to Dong Hoon finding out and Ji an’s external input. Yoon Hee liked JY. She really did and now, after realizing what she’s gotten the short end of the stick in both her affair and marriage, she’s quick to blame someone else. I really don’t think any of her actions are mainly driven by need for atonement but more by embarrassment and guilt.
Required fields are marked *
jaderjylsk
April 28, 2018 at 4:15 AM
Yes to all that you said. I still cannot find it in my heart to be fully sympathetic of YH because she keeps doing things that seem contradictory to her supposed feeling of regret.
I was also not understanding her reasoning about DH's regard for his family. It's not like the way he hangs out with them is something that happened after the marriage; rather we're shown that it's been part of DH's life, even with the neighborhood friends, so it must be something she had known was important to him.
But when I started thinking that maybe YH is the "selfish" type, it suddenly made sense why she acts the way she does. Because it sounds to me from all that she said that she was expecting an ALL or NOTHING decision from DH about his family: she wanted him to break ties with them. She wasn't about compromise. And I don't find it a loving act to have someone make you choose between her or your family.
You put it so eloquently; DH and YH have a different view of what family is and may not have been a good match.
Required fields are marked *
windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:51 AM
I don't think it was the fact that he spent so much time with his "neighborhood family" that hurt her, but the fact that he did not regard her as part of that family.
Required fields are marked *
nerdy
April 28, 2018 at 11:59 PM
So true, Dong Hoon at some point even suggests that he would meet his brothers only two times a week (without the soccer club), he does it himself without any need of it and it is obvious that he would go on compromises if only Yoon Hee asked him.
Actually I have zero idea how can Yoon Hee have this little understanding of how family works, he says no at cutting ties with people he grew up with and she is mad about that? It feels so weird to me.
I sincerely believe that the problem in their marriage was simply because she thought love needed to be passionate and he thought it should be quite and peaceful.
Required fields are marked *
MikeyD signed up
May 10, 2018 at 10:41 AM
DH should have dated and married the bar owner. Then he wouldn't have one foot in his working class roots and the other foot in the professional world. The DH/YH marriage was was a *class struggle*. DH is an industrial engineer with a lawyer wife but in his heart he's still a working class neighborhood street kid.
Required fields are marked *
17 missjb
April 27, 2018 at 9:12 PM
I don't know this drama is not supposed to be a romance drama as the main focus, but this drama surely knows hiw to make my heart flutter than any regular romance genre I've watched. I understand if they don't go there at this point of the narrative, but they sure know how to tease me with little moment they show us. Especially in this episode. My heart flutter! And that expression DH give to Ji An at the end of this drama. Pffttt he is shy! My heart flutter.
Required fields are marked *
Del
April 27, 2018 at 9:16 PM
Amazing really. Every single scene of DH and JA, even without physical contact or words, even those simple stolen glances that he gave her, just make my heart flutter.
Required fields are marked *
missjb
April 28, 2018 at 2:22 AM
My heart fluttering, too.. I don't know. Must be something to do with the way character potray their emotion, lol
Required fields are marked *
potatodrama
April 28, 2018 at 7:48 AM
Totally agree, he just killed me with that shy smile.
Required fields are marked *
cariad
May 1, 2018 at 4:28 AM
Yes... their interactions feels so romantic even when its platonic... love the end scene too because you could see how those words BUILD him up... same as those words have been Ji An's saving anchor...
"You are a good person"
I never thought I will watch a drama, hear these words and would find it so romantic but because of this drama and these two beautiful broken souls... these words are just exactly right.
These words have now joined the ranks of
#Always
#Together
#Yours
..... "You are a good person".... yep still romantic to me he he he
Required fields are marked *
Zema
February 6, 2021 at 9:20 PM
I feel like I've been put thru the wringer with this drama, and Im sure many feel the same. Im pretty sure it wasnt supposed to be merely romance, but whenever DH and JA have their moments I feel so many emotions crowding my chest! One takeaway from this is that JA's presence was a coming of age for DH, I truly believe that. If they dont end up together then they will definitely find one another in the next life.
Required fields are marked *
18 Del
April 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM
I have been waiting for this. Thank you @lollypip for the recap. Your words are so beautiful.
This episode is just so exquisitely beautiful. I have always known there's a backstory that led to such action especially from Yoon Hee and Kwang Il but I never expected myself to share their pain.
Most of us agreed that Dong Hoon himself is not really a good husband and now we understand what drove YH to cheating on him. There's nothing that can justify her infidelity but my tie breaker for not supporting the salvation of the marriage is her part in getting DH fired. They are both aware of their loveless marriage but I have deep respect for YH for trying to redeem herself and even more, thanking the girl who obviously loves her husband, who probably even willing to do more for his sake, even at the expense of her broken heart.
I already sensed that romantic interest in Kwang Il the moment he gave that frantic look the night he saw the happiness on JA face when she was drinking with DH. Like I said, he is conflicted between the feeling of love and hate. I could not believe it saddened me to watch him pining for her especially for the horror he had inflicted on her but he himself is a tortured soul and when he saw JA standing before him, emotionless, he knew that she had lost her forever to DH, because DH had shown JA the opposite of what he demonstrated to her.
And can I say how much I LOVE the scene when DH and JA's gaze met while he was in the car and her standing on the sideway. That scene is so brief yet so poignant, telling so much of how they feel for each other. We already know JA's feelings but that moment, I am sure that DH feels the same way. In the midst of his worries, his broken moments, her presence even without words just bring him calmness.
And that final scene where they drank at the bar...I thought the reminiscent of the argument between DH and YH was coming from DH and not JA? I don't know but I could be mistaken, though.
Finally, the final scene where DH broke into that shy smile sets my heart a flutter. It's like a reassurance to himself and not a confused man conflicted over his feelings for the girl sitting right in front of him. Or may be I am just being overly romantic? LOL
Gosh, this drama is so good. So rewarding and here I am dreading the 2 weeks of emptiness till the next episode.
Required fields are marked *
dramaandfilm16
April 28, 2018 at 10:20 AM
Nodding to your every comment. Oh how I love this drama.
Required fields are marked *
19 nadhiraagna
April 27, 2018 at 9:31 PM
Thank you for the recap!! I've watch this episode yet I waited to read your recap here just because I feel I need to find people who equally amazed by this drama (it's hard to recommend this drama to others when I can hardly describe how good it is).
I'm more like a silent reader here but this drama makes me want to explode with admiration, feels and sympathy for our beloved characters.
That scene when Jian told the Ajusshi gang that she hope she ages faster is sooo beautifully shot, when the camera moves to show each of their expressions, they were like "I totally understand you... but look at us"
And when Jian said Thank You for the first time and bowed to them, Dong Hoon expression is priceless. Sanghoon and Jung Hee may find that gesture as normal but that shows just how much Jian has changed and feeling welcomed and appreciated for the first time 😢
I'm not really hoping for a romance between our leads, even after Jian confessed her feeling to him but I can't help wondering what Dong Hoon really feels. I mean, the way he stared at her longingly when he & Ki Hoon drove pass her (the backsong makes it even more beautiful) and when he looked around to look for Jian in front of JungHee's bar after Ki Hoon and Yura's drama makes my heart flutters...
I was curious of the history of Jung Hee and the monk relationships, it seems like more than just a youthful love, when she can barely move on after so many years.
Jian's speech in front of the Directors made me tear up because that really showed how much his relationship with Dong Hoon has changed her and how smart she is to turn the table around in front of those intelligent people.
What gets me disappointed is how Sang Hoon's story line keep lessening and he just becomes a grumbling, musing older brother. I hope they create more storyline for him
The next episode's preview though...is Joon Young gonna make a move to expose Jian's role to fire Dong Hoon? I think it will be hard at first for Dong Hoon to accept that fact, but he knows how Jian condition was so I hope there wouldn't be any conflict between our leads.
And is Jian going somewhere? I hope they won't separate our leads for too long because they are match made in heaven (doesn't have to be romantic)
Required fields are marked *
dramaandfilm16
April 28, 2018 at 10:23 AM
I'm hoping that the money he's stashing below the floorboard has something to do with an attempt at reconciliation with his wife.
Required fields are marked *
20 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
April 27, 2018 at 10:47 PM
Honestly, I don't know how you manage to recap this show and do such a brilliant job. After each episode, I'm just speechless and wordless.
I've never been much in drama thread discussion and I definitely don't know where to start in this one. There's so much feelings, insights, details and stuff to talk about.
For this episode, I'll just talk about Yoon Hee. Her issues with Dong Hoon and his family are all very real. I know of people who faced the same thing. Never thought there would be a drama which covers this subject with much insight.
It's easy to throw stones at YH and expect her to accept Dong Hoon's relationship with his family. Love doesn't conquer all. Neither does it stay the same. It's the little things that eat into people and change them albeit slowly.
Dong Hoon is a very good man but I can't say I'd like to live with a man like him. He seems to be melancholic by nature and strikes me as someone who can never be happy. If you are his wife, you'd wonder why isn't he happy? He's got you and your child(ren) and yet he doesn't seem fulfilled. Worse, if you are the opposite type. You might try your best to help him but after a while, you will find ways to make yourself happy regardless of his state.
Over the years, resentment grew insidiously. It's possible for love and hate to co-exist. I speculate that is the reason why Yoon Hee had an affair with Joon Young of all people. Dong Hoon was right. She had lost her esteem of him as a person.
Required fields are marked *
persianrose❤️战哥
April 28, 2018 at 12:09 AM
100% agree with everything you said about DH and YH relationship @outofthisworld... and yes love and hate can co-exist and people relationship even marrid couple can become very complicated and ambiguous... DH is such a great person: friend, brother, son, father, boss, neighbor but definitely not an ideal husband... he is type of man who can makes their woman feels so lonely and desprate... YH seems to be a mentally strong woman for maintaining their relationship for 19 years... I can't imagine how much she loved DH to go make Kimchi in her inlaws' house a bit after giving birth!! She even paid for her inlaw (and two unemployed brothers)... I personally can never do any of this no matter how much I love my husband...!!
Required fields are marked *
pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 9:00 AM
@outofthisworld,
I like your observation about Dong Hoon’s melancholy. It echoes Yoon Hee’s own observation on several occasions (ep. 4, ep. 5, flashback in ep. 6). If anything, her admission in episode 4 was most telling: she knew he was a lonely guy, and felt like a failure because she realized she couldn’t make him happy.
I’m still haunted by a couple things Dong Hoon has said in the past:
“I won’t let my life be ruined by you.”
It's interesting that Dong Hoon said this to Joon Young after he found out about his wife’s infidelity. Most people would say that infidelity has already ruined his life/marriage - but no! Dong Hoon believes that as long as he doesn’t get a divorce, his life isn’t ruined…I assume because his family is still “in tact."
“And even if you do end up getting what you want if the things that made you feel safe and the things that made you “you” start getting fractured it’s impossible to withstand it.”
I return to my earlier question (Ep. 9 Comment #25): why Dong Hoon failed to “fight for” Yoon Hee? By “fight for” I mean to actively seek out and fulfill the ways she needs/desires to be loved and protected. In YH’s case, it means spending quality time to give her affirmation and affection. Dong Hoon is the epitome of the family man, but I have to wonder whether the WEIGHT of being the perfect son and brother and neighbor and employee meant that he couldn’t be a source of strength for his wife, but rather depended on her to be a pillar for him. If the honor of the family (and providing a good funeral for his mother!) rests solely on his shoulders because both his brothers are losers, add to that his desire to do a good job at work, and fulfill his own emotional need for family and community with the soccer ajusshis…what does he have left for Yoon Hee? Was it an unspoken assumption that here, at last, was someone who didn’t “need” him? Perhaps he looked to her to help him shoulder the load of responsibility.
After all, Sang-Hoon said that Yoon Hee volunteered to be a waitress for his failed restaurant. Ki-Hoon notes she passed the bar on the first try after giving birth. She tells us herself that she helped to make kimchi with his mother after the birth of Ji Seok. She kept giving the brothers money to support them after all their professional failures. They bought Dong Hoon’s mother her home. They never gave any money to YH’s own mother for her wedding….
Conversely, @bigmomma12345 might have it correct. They just had different and unrealistic expectations of each other.
Required fields are marked *
luzitania
April 28, 2018 at 3:42 PM
I agree with you about Dong Hoon. He is a very good man but I wouldn't want to be married to him either. I know myself enough to know that I could never be with someone melancholic like Dong Hoon. I think the issue is that Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon are fundamentally not compatible.
Required fields are marked *
KSKalways
May 4, 2018 at 11:41 AM
1st time going through the MY AJUSSHI recaps and I think I picked the right one to start w (ep12).
wonderful observations, @outofthisworld , @luzitania , @persianrose and @pineapplegongzhu . A good man, father, son, brother, manager indeed, but clearly, all that goodness didn't make him a good husband for his wife. I guess they were on 2 different wavelengths in terms of their expectations of each other... sad... it STILL doesn't excuse the Wife having an affair, but... *sigh*
Required fields are marked *
21 risa
April 27, 2018 at 10:59 PM
It's gonna be haaard having to wait two weeks until the next episodes, but since the reason for the postponement is that the actors and staff really need a break, I won't complain and will applaud the production team for putting their health and safety first. I gather they're extra exhausted because they had to reshoot all of the Oh Dal-soo as Sang-hoon scenes, and because they've had so many night shoots. They deserve a break (as does Lollypip!) and hopefully it'll mean that they'll be able to keep up the quality for the last four episodes. And at least we can continue to be intoxicated by My Ajusshi for a little longer...
Required fields are marked *
22 stellaness
April 27, 2018 at 11:32 PM
Oh man this episode, like wow. WOW! So many layers and depth we find out from our characters and finally we see Jian showing her vulnerability and letting the strong woman inside her out. I also loved the scene where everyone walked her home and the look on her face and her stance, it was so awkward and she looked like she was in unbelief like where are all these people going and why are they following me type of look. I feel such sadness for Junghee and want to know more of that background and her relationship with Gyeomduk. Also Yoonhee I feel so bad for her. She made a mistake that she shouldn't have but her loneliness and misery led her to a place where she was distracted and not in the right mind to make good judgements unfortunately. I'm so sad that we have to wait 2 weeks for another episode...sigh
Required fields are marked *
23 Riiko
April 27, 2018 at 11:33 PM
I have to say, I've been reading Dramabeans recaps for years now, easily when it first started. Never have I left a comment on a recap.
But I will now because if how well you've covered this recap. I always watch the series before I read the recaps and your recap is exceptionally written. I could recall every emotion I felt watching the episode while reading your recap. Thank you for that.
Required fields are marked *
24 pudge
April 28, 2018 at 12:33 AM
i just love this drama. So heartbreakingly real with the story told in a flawless fashion. SO. GOOD. Best thing i love in this ep, is Jian’s interview, esp when chairman jang arrived. Am pretty sure her words hit home with him. In previous episodes it was emphasized how chairman jang goes out of his way to treat his lowest ranked employees well and with the utmost respect. Which is basically how donghoon was with Jian. It was so on point, the parallelism between the chairman and dong hoon. Gah. I. Love. this. show. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Required fields are marked *
growingbeautifully
April 28, 2018 at 1:45 AM
@pudge
I felt that seeing the Chairman come, gave Ji An the idea to credit Dong Hoon for her warm feelings towards Saman E & C. That line of hers was extremely well played. It won the deal for Dong Hoon.
Required fields are marked *
risa
April 28, 2018 at 6:36 AM
And may have even won him the whole company.
Required fields are marked *
pudge
April 28, 2018 at 10:50 PM
@growingbeautifully
It was so lovely. The way it was played. It may not even be an “idea” for Jian to give credit to Dong-hoon. It was just how things were. It was just how he was towards her. Kind. I.LOVE. THIS. SHOW. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT TO BITS!
Required fields are marked *
25 Rukia wants melona
April 28, 2018 at 12:47 AM
Thank you LollyPip!!
I think I might actually need the extra time to go back and rewatch this show from the beginning.
If everything went well for Dong-hoon to become a director, then jerkface CEO will surely continue to try to undermine and destroy him.
I dread the moment when Dong-hoon will learn about Everything that Ji-an has done as a spy for the other side. Dong-hoon forgave her once, and he has accepted her as part of his extended family, but that is going to be so painful. The closer you are to someone, the more they have the power to hurt you deeply.
Right now, Dong-hoon is still reeling from the betrayal of his wife (on so many levels). Okay, he hasn't been the perfect husband, but who on this earth IS perfect, huh? For me, marriage is saying yes every single day, multiple times if necessary. They are both at fault for the distance that grew between them. The lack of loyalty and just simple respect for her partner on Yoon-hee's part show that she wanted out and didn't care about what kind of aftermath her actions might create. She might have been hurt, but her actions were like a ticking time bomb waiting to devastate everything that was left in their relationship and everyone nearby. She is repenting now, but she has shown herself to be supremely selfish: it is always about her pride. (end of rant)
I digress. Dong-hoon can't help but be fragile right now. I don't care how solid he looks from the outside. When he finds out, and he will find out, what will that do to him? Will he still be able to accept Ji-an one of his people? Will Ji-an be isolated again? I think that Dong-hoon is a very careful person and I appreciate how he methodically looks at a situation from all sides before making up his mind. I trust that they will get through this next crisis as well.
I love these characters so much. Who knew that simple human kindness is the most powerful love of all?
Required fields are marked *
26 growingbeautifully
April 28, 2018 at 1:03 AM
Thanks so much @lollypip. This is a great recap and review. I've never felt that your recap of this show was wanting, but I do agree that the feels while watching it are something else! Each episode is just so filled with little moments that say so much.
My absolute favourite moment of this episode was when Ji An looked at the folks who had walked her home, thanked them properly and bowed. My heart just bubble over with joy; I was so touched I had tears flowing.
The other moment was when Ji An meant every word she said during the interview and said she'd never felt warmer in all her 21 years. It was just so sad.
The Kwang Il and Ji An meeting was so short and so monumental. From a hated figure, Kwang Il suddenly became a sympathetic character. In that one scene is explained all of Ji An's attitude, why she never evinces fear of Kwang Il who is so much bigger than her, why he keeps barging into her home and still respects her wishes after beating her up. It's crazy to say that my heart also bled for him when he can be so cruel. I find him, strangely, the most tragic figure. Doomed by his father's legacy to a life of thuggish violence, doomed by his father's death to never have a good relationship with Ji An or be with her, when he can't help but miss her, of all people.
I continue to be wowed by the writing of this show. How it makes Ji An so smart, her every decision is spot on to evoke the results she needs. The only thing that didn't work out totally was losing the detective stalker. If Yoon Hee's threats against Joon Young work, then stalker should be pulled off the job.
My favourite funny moments were:
1)Ki Hoon's mum's reaction when she heard that his girlfriend matched him..."Is she very weird?"
2)(This scene... I can't seem to locate it now) Ki Hoon entering his home like an excited kid, yelling to his mum about his girlfriend and his mum cuts in with a deadpan question, and he stops short to get the stuff he forgot instead of taking issue that she ignored his excitement. LOL
Required fields are marked *
luzitania
April 28, 2018 at 3:44 PM
It's weird but I feel for Kwang Il too. As lollypip said, it makes me sad for the man Kwang Il could have been with a different father.
Required fields are marked *
growingbeautifully
April 28, 2018 at 7:49 PM
@luzitania, I feel the same ... even 'bad' people are not all bad. They made wrong choices, they appear terrible to us looking from the outside, however we do not know how they may have been misinformed or mistreated, or how a different set of circumstances might have made them able to choose better. Considering this, ... I don't think we are weird after all... if only Kwang Il could have had the chance. 😐 😄
Required fields are marked *
27 Contrarian
April 28, 2018 at 1:10 AM
I still do not see any romantic links between JA and DH. JA is an intelligent adversarial covert operandi in office and domestic conflicts. She is also good with words, especially the word “like”, as seen in her testimony in the conference room.
So don’t be fooled(I won’t elaborate).
I also like to challenge the concept of “cheat”.
Whether you are in a contractual relationship or not, so long as perceived contractual responsibility/purpose not honoured, the respective party should be discharged from contractual obligation.
In a cheat, you simply lie for personal gain.
Yoon Hee though bonded, was free to “move on” in that sense. What she had committed was a relationship with another man she kept in the DARK( no need to disclose till she is more certain). Yes she may have to lie to her husband but that’s for keeping her intentions private. She didn’t lie for personal gain(her relationship is NOT a commodity)
Unfortunately, she misjudged her husband’s contractual obligations and had to pay the price of misjudgment, but not as a cheat she was accused of.
The monk said to Dong Hoon, “ no big deal” was rather apt.
Nevertheless, there is a lot of pain on both parties to work out their mistakes - no big deal really
Required fields are marked *
28 WishfulToki
April 28, 2018 at 2:17 AM
*raises hand* Excuse me for cutting into your wonderful thread. We would like to extend an invitation to My Ajusshi lovers, who are writing so eloquently about love and pain and happiness here. Would you be interested in turning your thoughts into poetry? If so, join us for
THE BEANIE POETRY SLAM
Lately several beanies have been posting some outstanding poetry on their fanwall, some inspired by dramas and inspiring others to look at life through different lens. I think it’s time we get a real party going.
What is a Poetry Slam: “A slam is the competitive art of performance poetry. Participants perform their original work and are judged by members of the audience... The audience’s job is to keep the mood supportive, energetic and encouraging to all participants.” (From readingagency.org.uk).
Open to: All beanies.
Hosted by: Forgotten Poets Society and Island of Neutrality.
When: Poems entered until Wednesday 3 May will be considered. Winners will be decided on how many upvotes they receive and announced in next Open Thread.
Theme and Style:: Any, we love reading your poetry.
Instructions to participate: The OT Thread will be the main base for the competition. Beanies can submit their entries in two ways:
1) Directly on OT Thread 549: http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/04/open-thread-549/ At the top write ‘POETRY SLAM ENTRY” in bold.
2) On your fanwall, but add a permalink to the OT thread so people can find your poem and upvote it. Also state this is a ‘POETRY SLAM ENTRY” Kindly tag @wishfultoki so I can be sure your poem is entered successfully.
General Rules for participants and for audience:
- No flaming.
- No inappropriate language.
- One entry per person please.
- Add a warning below if your entry contains any drama-related spoilers.
Thank you for reading. We look forward to your presence at this event.
Required fields are marked *
growingbeautifully
April 28, 2018 at 3:27 AM
Great rules and organization @wishfultoki!
Required fields are marked *
29 Liky
April 28, 2018 at 3:03 AM
DH will not engage into a new relationship as long as he is still married. He is certainly not a cheater.
As for the slippers, he was taking comfort in having them in his drawer because of the ‘warmth’ they stand for, and because he does like JA. Wearing them would be a kind of a commitment, it would be accepting JA’s feelings for him, which he can’t at least not for the time being.
Required fields are marked *
30 I do not give six flying dragons
April 28, 2018 at 3:04 AM
Some times I'm just too empathic.
"Secret love affair" allmost destroyed me with its intensity.
I know this show will do the same, so I live vicariously through your words.
Thankyou.
Required fields are marked *
31 john
April 28, 2018 at 3:25 AM
LollyPip, thank you for the recap.Your recap skills are fine, fighting !
Lots of good scenes this episode. Ji-an’s interview, she was so polished! The range of facial reactions of both teams during the course of the interview was funny, in this show’s quirky way.
The director has done a wonderful job setting up the scenes. Kwang-il’s scene , recalling such a wretched moment in his life, yet somehow it’s still precious to him.
Dong-hoon and Ji-an have so much energy between them, they spark. Contrast that to the stale, lonely grey cardboard life that Joon-hee described she endured. Would their marriage have been so bad if their son lived with them?
Would their marriage be salvageable? It would require some time at the temple to reflection, eh?
Yay for Dong-hoon’s team at work. Yes, the report is what is important at this time. Ji-an stays too and then they catch the train, running, hearts pounding together, what is it with these two? Magic.
Required fields are marked *
32 sal
April 28, 2018 at 4:10 AM
Regarding Yoon Hee and and Dong Hoon marriage. she say she felt lonely and that he cared to much about his family that she felt sidelined. but she could easy done something about it. she could have go with him and get to know his friends and family. she could have become a part of his circle instead of showing dislike and even talking about moving to a new neighborhood. I think most people would feel resentment for the person that show dislike for your family and friends and want you to move away from them. Not saying DH is not in wrong. but there is a better way to handle this i think from wife side. the birthday scene showed just how she was not part of his family, witch i think in some way is her own making.
Required fields are marked *
john
April 28, 2018 at 5:01 AM
They haven’t said anything about Yoon-hee’s family !? Perhaps she doesn’t keep in touch with them. Just wondering why she couldn’t look to her mother for support. I can understand her resentment for carrying the two brother’s dead weight for years, aigoo !
Required fields are marked *
windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:56 AM
Good point - almost nothing at all about her family, or how they hooked up in the first place.
Required fields are marked *
33 Jellibeanie
April 28, 2018 at 4:43 AM
Thank you so much LollyPip for your recaps! It’s really very much appreciated! Thank you!
I also love the walk to JA’s house. I feel the warmth of everybody, the feeling of being accepted, protected and I even felt the love, especially when Jung-hee wrapped her arm around JA’s after that pregnant pause. I’m certain that JA felt the same way and was touched enough to have mustered all her strength to utter, “thank you”. DH’s reaction was priceless. He had a blimey-did-I-hear-that-right face, LOL!
I also love the race to the train station. I don’t know but I felt so happy for JA in that scene, it’s like finally being part of the team and this is all thanks to DH. She’s really learning from him and that makes her life so much better, and this has resonated in the last scene when being interviewed. I was just bursting with pride not only for JA but for DH as well!
I now understand Yoon-hee’s side. All our behaviours have reasons behind it. The problem is lack of communication between them. We now see that DH hates confrontations and will avoid them at all cost. He shrinks away from anything uncomfortable. We saw that while Yoon-hee was trying to talk to him and he would just go silent or change the subject or crank up the telly’s volume or stand up and leave. Even with Joon-hee, while they were walking and reminiscing the olden days when they were hopping from temple to temple, looking for that “somebody”, DH physically shirked away from her. He just couldn’t stand it and that is his big problem. Loneliness is lethal, that is so true. Being ones “second”, not the priority and to think she’s the wife, can be very lonely indeed. However, she should have confronted DH even when he didn’t want to, make him listen and understand. If he doesn’t want to talk about it then write him a letter, whatever it takes, because sometimes men just don’t get it (and he admitted that he didn’t have any idea), therefore, the woman just has to say it or write it in bold letters. She shouldn’t have given up and find solace from somebody because it is just not right. She’s already married. Now the transgression cannot be undone and she surely made it worse by choosing a trashy douche bag to hook up with. DH’s face when looking at Yoon-hee in front of the fridge was a look of hate and disgust and those lines that he said, that she gave him a death sentence were just wow! I feel for him. Everything that the restaurant owner said, the one who just had a divorce, was right. There is no way that kind of marriage can be saved.
Now we go to DH and JA, alright there is no love line apparently or so they say. No love line, but there are these longing looks, the love in their eyes is just always there. The scene where DH was in that van and saw JA, that was actually a pretty strong scene for me. Even with no words, just those looks, well, it just killed me. DH certainly wouldn’t like JA to disappear from his life. That pair of slippers is the glaring proof. If it weren’t...
Required fields are marked *
Jellibeanie
April 28, 2018 at 4:46 AM
...for its disappearance from his drawer, I don’t think he’d realise that he could not afford to lose JA. There was too much going on for him that day but he was just so bothered by those damn slippers that he had to chase JA and even shouted at her that he’s not going to fire her. It seemed like he was reprimanding her but it feels like he’s actually saying, don’t leave me please. Maybe that’s why JA told him that she actually liked him more for it. Their relationship is just so twisted but I’m loving it. Is this mere friendship? No, it is really more. Well, JA knows that she likes him, the scene in the train when she said that she stayed late at the office because she misses him was just awesome. I mean, I know that DH was flabbergasted but I reckon he was in awe at the same time. The poor guy is just continuously traumatised by JA, LOL! But he seeks for her companionship still, he’s not repulsed by her at all, well, not anymore. He would always look for her, takes care of her, protects her, well, I couldn’t forget that he once looked for her and asked the restaurant owner if he’d seen the “kid with the pretty face”. That being said, I don’t think DH knows exactly how he feels towards JA. Like what you said LolliPip, there’s too much on his plate to think about it, and well, knowing DH, I don’t think he’d like to really think about it because it is just something uncomfortable to think about.
DH is loved by so many people, so why does he still need JA? Because she’s the only one who can truly understand him, she makes him feel needed (unlike his wife who makes him feel useless), and also probably because she makes him feel well, attractive. That last scene when he smiled, well that’s the smile of someone being flattered and being grateful. I’m glad DH has JA now that he’s the one having a difficult time. I’m just so terrified for the next episodes, when he finds out he’s being monitored 24/7 by JA. I just don't understand why this pairing is not possible at all. Is it all because of a number, the age gap? That's nothing if we compare it to the basic core of any relationship, which is you know, love, finding a form of strong connection with someone. I just would like them to end up together and just be happy really. With that monk's words that spurred DH's actions to the offensive mode, I'm really hopeful.
Required fields are marked *
34 Isabel
April 28, 2018 at 4:47 AM
I usually watch the show raw and the wait for the subs lmao (life of internation viewers who does not speak korean) so I scenes with the brothers and Yura were always annoying to me, but after this episode I think I understood her character and the whys of her relationships with KH, im rooting for them now lol. This episode cemented what I've been saying for a while, DH and YH marriage was broken way before she cheated, like, how can you come back from that? Not only did she cheat, but he never truly understood her, so much wrong.
Ji An, baby, I love you more more, I just do.
Also I never thought I would feel pity over Kwang-il, but here I am, feeling sad over him crying, like what even..
Required fields are marked *
Jokim
April 28, 2018 at 5:17 AM
Be careful who you condemn or you may turn out looking like a self righteous betch.
Required fields are marked *
ebichu
April 28, 2018 at 12:24 PM
Okay, I think your response is uncalled for. No where in what was posted did she condemn any of the characters mentioned (DH, YH, JA, the brothers, or Yura). And even if she had, your response would still be out of place, because it seems like a personal attack on the commenter.
Required fields are marked *
35 Hayu
April 28, 2018 at 5:20 AM
Do you know how hard for “an outsider”to fit into a group, let alone an outcast like JA?
The level of sensitivity of the writers is simply outstanding.
Here you have a heart warming scenario of a group of close buddies “fitting” into an outcast life.
They read each other so well.
The “thank you” from JA is just tear duct flood worthy.
Required fields are marked *
windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:59 AM
So many current writers of k-dramas make all the characters seem so superficial that it is hard to really care much about them. This show should be a wake up call to all the formula writers out there.
Required fields are marked *
36 stpauligurl
April 28, 2018 at 6:40 AM
Thank you thank you @lollypip for recapping this amazing show! You may say you can't write what you feel, but I think you are doing a pretty darned good job of recapping and expressing yourself.
So many beanies have written so eloquently all the things I feel about this show so I can't really add much.
I think the relationship/romance/friendship between DH and JA is one of two lonely souls who have found a 'home' in each other. DH has his brothers and friends as family but JA 'gets' him and the loneliness he feels. When he's with her it is gone and vice versa for her.
That scene when they surrounded JA in the group walk/hug/love taking her home left me with tears running down my face. I was so very touched by how they all gathered her in and welcomed her as one of their own without any questions. Powerful - very powerful.
JA's interview was epic! I loved how her strength and sense of worth came to the fore and she showed those men in the room how awesome DH was by just valuing her as a person. What more do they need in a director? Well management skills of course, but we can all see that DH has that in spades by how all his co-workers adore him.
Enough - I'm so glad to have this place to gush over this show. 2018 has been a good year for dramas so far hasn't it?
Required fields are marked *
37 Ati
April 28, 2018 at 6:51 AM
DAMNNNN...
I ship Kwang-il and Ji-ah.
Required fields are marked *
38 JustMe
April 28, 2018 at 6:54 AM
THANK YOU @lollypip for your recap AND review at the end. I full-heartedly agree--- NOTHING can fully capture the depth of this drama. The cinematography, acting, subtlety it's all there and you really have to watch it to experience it. Discussing it here gives me a chance to also see points of view or interpretations I've missed while watching. This is turning out to be one of my *all-time* favorite dramas (hope the ending doesn't ruin this statement). This is the only show, JUST after finishing an episode (or even just after finishing a scene), I'll go back and rewatch it again. Beautiful. beautiful. Beautiful
Required fields are marked *
stpauligurl
April 28, 2018 at 7:37 AM
+++++++10000 agree with you @justme!
Required fields are marked *
39 kstamps1
April 28, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Lollypip, I read the dramabeans recaps AFTER watching drama episodes. I am so happy to have found your site because you (and the other writers) write extremely well about kdramas with insight, humor and affection that extends the enjoyment of the stories.
I fully appreciate the difficulty in being able to adequately convey the beauty of "My Mister". I become a little frustrated myself when I want to post a comment about it; there's just too much to say. "My Mister" is exceptional and exquisite in so many aspects (acting, directing, ost, and most especially, the writing).
This drama translates beautifully into English which, I think, is a testament to the genius of Park Hae-Young. The translators are, of course, incredible, but she has given them an amazing work.
Thank you so very much for your recaps. I look forward to them. I "run" to dramabeans after an episode just read what you guys think. 😊
Required fields are marked *
40 atz
April 28, 2018 at 8:27 AM
LollyPip is a very good writer even though she sometimes doubts her ability. It's just this drama has so much nuance so it is almost impossible to describe it. Despite of the challenge, she does a fine job indeed. We always appreciate your time and efforts and great analysis.
People say that DH is chronically depressed and they can see why his wife cheated though they never approve of adultery.
If I were in DH's shoes, I would be depressed as well. He must have studied very hard under the Korean educational system which is known the harshest. This time alone is quite depressing. His brothers always tell him not to quit his good job though he does not like it. He does all those things that people expected him to do. No wonder he is depressed. Is he a typical Eastern Asian guy in this sense? I think he is. He does not talk about what he thinks even among his friends,,, that is how he is. My husband often jokes but he hardly reveals his heart to his friends. Those guys exist and it is not their fault.
But his wife wants him more of him that he does not have or he does not place the utmost importance, ie, always listens to his wife, always place his wife over anything. His wife claims that she did all those things for his family but they did not accept her well. That can be true but I also think there is a reason for their behavior as well and the reason is not just because his wife advanced herself ahead of her husband( which might be the superficial reason.)
They have a totally different compasses for life in a way so after following their own compasses for many years, they become further apart and now they are completely lost, cannot find each other.
I am old enough to see some of my people's divorces and affairs. Most who had affairs actually have similar reasons as DH's wife. They complain that their husbands' value are different from those of their families, their husbands do not pay attention to them etc etc. I am female and married for nearly thirty years, so that I understand their complaints. But sometimes I found some of those women are too self centered and obsessed and DH's wife seems to be one of them.
Required fields are marked *
41 windsun33
April 28, 2018 at 9:34 AM
This show has more memorable scenes in one episode than most k-dramas do in the entire series. I am still wondering how I should feel about some lines, such as "it broke her heart when she’d call him and he’d say he was eating with his family, even though she wasn’t there.".
Perhaps Ji An is doing far more good than anyone or herself realizes...
Required fields are marked *
42 redoy21
April 28, 2018 at 9:36 AM
@lollypip dont sell youself short . You are a very talented writer. I always look forward to your recaps, yours insights are very thoughtful and relatable. Not everyone can write down the emotions which we can feel while reading it. I knw it sounds weird..but hope you get what I meant.
Now this episode is like a testament to affect of Dong Hoon on Ji ahn. How far has jiahn has come compared to the 1st ep? She is now volunteering herself to work late to help dong hoon . And the when she says 'Thank You ' to Dong Hoon and his friends , i was like awwww .. Dong Hoon even looked suprised.
And obviously we have to mention Ji Ahns intelligence , when she uses Yoon Hee to save Dong Hoon and then at the interview how she raises Dong Hoon up when the chairman comes by saying how she will always be thankful to his company because of donghoon. Dong hoon doesnt know it , but you are each others guardian angels. Always looking out for each other.
Lee Sun kyun srsly deserves an award for his role especially the scene of confrontation with his wife on her cheating. He looked so broken . It was heartbreaking to watch. But it had to happen for them to move on.
Ki Hoon and yura. Aww the ship sailed.. but Jung Hees words seemed like a foreshadowing that the relationship wont survive. :(
From the preview it seemed like ji ahn will move away.. :(
How am i gonna survive 2 freaking weeks for the next episode to air !!
Required fields are marked *
43 TenJungGirl
April 28, 2018 at 12:22 PM
I seriously cannot watch the show because it is too real. I can only read the recaps because then I am not having to deal with the emotions this shows gives me. I know this sounds lame. But there it is.
Thank-you Lollypip for the good job you doing recapping this fantastic show.
Required fields are marked *
44 Mayada
April 28, 2018 at 12:28 PM
I've been badly captivated by this drama... can't stop thinking about it 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Required fields are marked *
45 ebichu
April 28, 2018 at 12:40 PM
I'm enjoying watching the developments in all of the relationships depicted, but I *really* wanna know what's up with Sang-hoon. What's he planning?! With his luck, all that $$$ that he's stuffing under the floorboards is gonna cause an electrical short and a fire. Aren't there heating elements embedded in the flooring? Lol
And I've got to say, I'm absolutely loving his reactions to KH's grouchiness & lady problems as well as that knowing glance he threw DH's way when DH & JA showed up outside the bar. I really like this actor and those mischievous eyes of his. 💕
Required fields are marked *
46 dramaandfilm16
April 28, 2018 at 1:14 PM
thank you @lollypip ! I completely agree, this drama is 10000% better watched than how it can possibly be described with words. It's the feeling of this drama that gets me, even more so than the incredible dialogue.
If the previous eps didn't make me feel like there was something more between DH and JA, this ep definitely did it for me. That scene of DH in Ki Hoon's car where the truck next to them drives on, only to reveal Jian standing before his eyes on the side of the road, that was so beautifully filmed. There was so much longing for JA in DH's face and body language. The scene where his friends are talking to him outside of jung hee's bar but he's only focused on looking both ways to see if Jian is on her way home, when the higher ups training DH how to answer questions says "thank god she's (Jian) not pretty" yet not too long ago DH described her to the bar worker as "the pretty girl", and that shy smile at the very end, WHAT!?
- I enjoy seeing her protect her feelings for DH. I don't think she's confused over her feelings anymore. She seems resolute about liking him.
- When the private investigator on the train was walking towards where Jian was and after that guy left that section of the train DH casually but firmly stood close to Jian in that empty train lot while glaring at the other guy leaving, it's was as though he was the one trying to protect her. Oh the irony, as she's been the one protecting him.
- When Jian said "thank you". IU had great tone and delivery, those words alone moved me deeply.
- at the end of the ep JA said "you're a good person, really.", she said it with so much determination in her beady, red-tinged eyes, like she wanted him to trust what she said, for him to believe it for himself, and for a good moment he stared into her eyes without much expression, WANTING to believe those words, then with that bashful smile...I smiled so much. He seemed comforted to hear those words coming from her.
- Junghee talking to the monk through DH's phone oh god THE TEARS THAT WERE FALLING DOWN MY EYES. She read for herself how fine he is in his life without her, but for us viewers to see how torn she is without him... I really hope Junghee gets some closure by the end of it all.
Required fields are marked *
47 luzitania
April 28, 2018 at 1:45 PM
Iam with you @lollypip. Cheating is unforgivable but I can understand how Yoon-hee got there. To be honest, their life together seem so lonely. They don't talk, they don't hold hands, kiss. The whole time, I am watching My Ajusshi, they strike me as roommates more than lovers.
They should have divorced or gone to marriage counselling a long time ago.
Required fields are marked *
48 Giantpanda789
April 28, 2018 at 2:50 PM
For those of you who love the show, you should try Secret love Affair! I like this show a lot, but SLA even better. Great acting and directing and beautiful music and camera work. It’s a story about redemption.
Required fields are marked *
49 pineapplegongzhu
April 28, 2018 at 3:28 PM
@Lollypip,
After re-reading your recap for episode 12, I have to echo the other Beanies on here. You’re an amazingly articulate and insightful recapper, so I hope you don’t sell yourself short. I look forward to your analyses every week.
I’ve certainly started dramas I hadn’t even considered because your recaps made them sound so interesting and fun! In fact, I cannot count the times when you noticed something subtle but important that I missed, and only after reading your recap was I able to appreciate the work and narrative the PD & co. put in the episode.
I agree that My Ajusshi is a uniquely rich, multi-dimensional, tightly written, subtle masterpiece. Capturing every minuet, important detail while also expounding on how those pieces fit into the larger narrative arc is challenging, but I think you’re doing it beautifully.
I am personally so thankful for all your hard work that allow us all to enjoy the Show to the fullest extent.
Thanks so much, Recapping Queen!
Required fields are marked *
50 laladaisical
April 28, 2018 at 8:32 PM
A commenter, noona1, over on Soompi characterized the effect this drama has on a majority of viewers as 'melancholic euphoria', which perfectly describes how I feel after episode 12.
So much happens in this episode that it feels impossible for it to be one episode: KH taking responsibility for the damage he caused to YA; JH finally speaking to GD, and GD being forthcoming about seeing JH (for the record, the scene of JH sitting in the bathroom, bawling, with the text stating she hasn't changed hovering in the corner was brilliant and devastating); YH and JA tag-teaming to make JY heel; confirmation of KI's conflicted sense of guilt; and JA and DH just making my heart bleed all over my laptop.
KI's turmoil is intriguing, only because it informs why JA tolerated the beatings for so long. Whatever guilt he feels, whether it concerns being attracted to the woman who killed his father or not protecting JA is really nothing compared to what he has actually done. I hope JA is rid of him.
JA is the most refreshing character I have seen in such a long time. She expertly handled that room full of executives, JY, YH, everyone, especially DH. The way she adjusts her sincerity is fascinating to me. That and her insistence on openly liking DH. It's about time a woman romances the subject of her affection, even if it's not reciprocated (as of yet).
One more thing: IU is doing a phenomenal job expressing the complicated motivations and desires of JA. You can tell she's invested in bringing this character alive. She completely disappears into the role. Kudos, IU.
Required fields are marked *
cariad
May 1, 2018 at 4:37 AM
I wanted to give you another thumbs up but it's not letting me he he... love your words about Ji An's character... love love this character... DH said it best "You are a good person. You are courageous."
Required fields are marked *
lizzieb
May 1, 2018 at 11:23 AM
I can only like this comment once and I regret that. But I appreciate and agree with everything you've said here on a spiritual level.
Required fields are marked *