Jeongnyeon – The Star is Born: Episodes 9-10
by mistyisles
In the wake of tragedy, our cast of characters struggle to navigate guilt, denial, despair, and longing for what almost was. But while some dreams seem irreparably broken, others may yet be salvaged and turned into something new.
EPISODES 7-8
It’s a somber penultimate week as everyone deals with the aftermath of Jeong-nyeon’s self-destruction in their own ways. Young-seo and Ju-ran are awarded the coveted roles, but there’s no joy in the victory for either of them. Ju-ran is too overwhelmed with guilt to face Jeong-nyeon, even after the latter is discharged from the hospital, and Young-seo convinces herself she hasn’t earned the part and decides to drop out. It doesn’t help that her mother admits to bribing the judges and lining up the “opportunity” for Young-seo to transfer to the more prestigious national troupe after the joint production.
This final straw breaks Young-seo’s last hope of winning her mother’s approval. “I’m my own person!” she cries as she informs her mother she’ll be choosing her own path. It takes words of affirmation from both Troupe Leader Kang and Jeong-nyeon to persuade Young-seo not to drop out of the show. Just because Jeong-nyeon messed up her own chance (and Cho-rok’s, though that’s not really acknowledged) doesn’t mean Young-seo didn’t earn hers, and it’s time for her to stop letting her mother define her worth.
At first, it seems not even wrecked vocal chords can dim Jeong-nyeon’s light. She stays upbeat, insisting the doctor was mistaken when he said her singing would never be the same. But she also spends her spare time getting second, third, and tenth opinions, and as time goes on and none of the doctors can offer a miracle cure, her optimism erodes.
She gets desperate enough to almost try one doctor’s suggestion of opium, which is when Troupe Leader Kang intervenes. She takes Jeong-nyeon to one last doctor with the agreement that if he can’t do anything for her, Jeong-nyeon must accept that nothing can be done. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what he says, but Jeong-nyeon still isn’t ready to hear it. Troupe Leader Kang begs and pleads and screams at her to accept reality for the sake of her sanity (and everyone else’s at this point), and Jeong-nyeon leaves the next morning without saying goodbye.
She goes home to take comfort in her sister’s arms and ask advice from the only person who knows exactly what she’s going through — her mother. All her mother can advise is to keep putting one foot in front of the other, so Jeong-nyeon returns to her old life of selling fish, but with an air of total hopelessness.
The only person to finally get back through to her is Young-seo, who brings along the record of Jeong-nyeon’s mother singing in hopes of reigniting Jeong-nyeon’s spark. It works, in a roundabout way — Young-seo tosses it in the ocean when Jeong-nyeon rebuffs her, and then has to fish Jeong-nyeon out because she dove in after it despite being unable to swim. At last, Jeong-nyeon finishes venting her anger, Young-seo confesses that she was always more intimidated by Jeong-nyeon’s acting talent than by her singing, and they cozy up in Young-seo’s coat to enjoy each other’s presence for once. Young-seo promises to wait as long as it takes for Jeong-nyeon to come back.
Ultimately, Jeong-nyeon does decide to come back — but this time, she’s determined to get her mother’s blessing first. That’s no small feat, but Jeong-nyeon has Troupe Leader Kang advocating on her behalf. Maybe it’s the way Troupe Leader Kang says in the same breath you gave up too easily and I missed you terribly, or maybe it’s her confidence that if anyone can help Jeong-nyeon find her voice again, it’s her mother. Either way, Mom’s heart softens.
After she catches Jeong-nyeon getting up in the middle of the night to try to sing, she shares the story of an old pansori master who “sang with a voice he didn’t have.” That is, he sang in a way that was both technically lacking and emotionally powerful. Mom suggests Jeong-nyeon find a way to “fill the gaps” in her voice — even if it’s with tears and sighs. And then, as the sun begins to rise, she sings. It’s raw, and “broken,” and hauntingly beautiful.
Interspersed with Jeong-nyeon’s journey through grief, this week also follows Ok-gyung on a spiral of her own. It begins after the disastrous audition, when Hye-rang finds Ok-gyung bleeding in the bathtub. Hye-rang can’t understand why Ok-gyung cares so much about Jeong-nyeon, but Ok-gyung says bitterly that the person making her so distraught is Hye-rang, who has ruined what little hope Ok-gyung had found in watching Jeong-nyeon.
Lest we forget she only mentored Jeong-nyeon to alleviate her own boredom, Ok-gyung writes Jeong-nyeon off as a lost cause and approaches Young-seo with an offer: “If I left the troupe, would you come with me?” Young-seo declines in favor of waiting for Jeong-nyeon — the only person who truly understands and challenges her to perform at her very best — and Ok-gyung sadly accepts that she never has and maybe never will find someone like that for herself.
Fearing that Ok-gyung is being scouted, Troupe Leader Kang promises to let her choose the troupe’s next production. Although Ok-gyung says it’s the most tempting offer she’s ever received, there’s a hard edge to her smile, and here’s where I started to worry she might do something drastic. She and Hye-rang take the stage, and somewhere around the time her disillusioned character promises to give his princess “one last victory,” it becomes clear that the story they’re acting out — which ends in the death of Ok-gyung’s character — directly mirrors their reality.
Only after they’ve given the performance of their lives, when Hye-rang is at her happiest, does Ok-gyung drop the bomb: she’s leaving gukgeuk for film and their relationship is over. Then she drives away and leaves Hye-rang sobbing in the street. Cold as it is, though, I can’t help but feel relieved that Ok-gyung is getting out of gukgeuk before it kills her. It means betraying Troupe Leader Kang, who stood by her when no one else would, but it also (I hope, for her sake) means escaping the stagnation that was stifling her.
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this week’s episodes that I’m not sure I can fully untangle before I see how it all ends. But I will say that Jeongnyeon – The Star is Born feels like a love letter to the performing arts, and to the kind of passion for one’s craft that can be just as destructive as it is life-giving. It’s not without its faults, but — like the pansori master who touched people’s hearts despite his technically “broken” voice — this story has touched me profoundly, and I’m not looking forward to having to say goodbye next week. And on that note — what do I have to do to watch this cast in an actual full-length stage show?
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1 kay4625
November 11, 2024 at 6:20 PM
Jeongnyeon's refusal to accept the reality could be annoying, but also, I understand her, and my heart breaks for her. But luckily, there may yet be hope there... Which is a good thing because literally everything else seems hopeless right about now.
Our OT3 all had to deal with mommy issues this week, and only one of those isn't awful. While I may not exactly agree with Jeongnyeon's mom, I can at least understand where she's coming from, and it's clear that she loves her daughter (episode 10's ending is an obvious highlight here). On the other hand, we have Ju-ran's mom, who literally wants her daughter to abandon her dream so she can marry her off to some random guy all so she can afford the hospital bills for her other daughter (who she definitely loves way more). Honestly, thinking about this just makes me angry and sad. And the worst thing? I feel like Ju-ran might actually go through with it...
Meanwhile, we also have Ok-gyung and Hye-rang's divorce, and I think there's a lot of discussion to be had there. You see, Hye-rang is the obvious red flag, but I don't think she's the only one. I think we've been ignoring the less obvious red flag, which is Ok-gyung, and maybe we were all just entranced by her act as a prince so we didn't realize it. There are a lot of questions there, ones that probably will never be answered, but this week made me curious nonetheless. What caused the decline in the Ok-gyung & Hye-rang relationship? What made Hye-rang act like this? What started it? Did the prince ever realize how much the little mermaid loved him? Or did the prince never really love the little mermaid at all? I can understand her being bored and tired, but I don't think that's all there is to it, nor do I think Hye-rang is solely to blame for it. Here's a question: We know Ok-gyung had an opium addiction. Did she ever manage to overcome her addiction? Or did she just trade one addiction for the other?
Quite frankly, Ok-gyung's actions feel cold and heartless, especially since she's leaving in the middle of production. Actions have consequences, and sadly, her actions might be the downfall of the entire troupe. Let's hope for a happy ending for all involved, even if things aren't looking good right now.
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mk
November 11, 2024 at 7:48 PM
I agree about Ok Gyeong/Hyerang. Hyerang's flaws are obvious, but Ok Gyeong's lack of communication and waiting for others to spark things in her life are their own red flags. I read that the drama sanded off the webtoon character's hard edges and flaws, I wish we could have seen more of that.
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TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 3:32 AM
I do wish they had spent more developing Ok-gyung's character. Something was missing with their development from benevolent if jaded prince to this. (And I say this not just because I wanted more Ok-gyung than this show has served. OK, maybe partly. 😂)
Last week, @worldsmitten speculated upon the missing story behind Hye-rang, which would have made the loss of her role, her love in these episodes more poignant. Could some of this lack in the Ok-gyung and Hye-rang story be a problem with the adaption or tiptoeing around queer issues?
In general, the show has shortchanged the older generation, including the story of director and Jeong-nyeon's mother. But then, the show is subtitled "A Star Is Born" and not "All About Eve."
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kay4625
November 12, 2024 at 8:31 AM
While I wish we saw more of Ok-gyung & Hye-rang's story, I don't think Ok-gyung's turn came out of nowhere, or felt out of character. Ok-gyung, from the very beginning, has always been a rather mysterious character, who raises a lot of questions, like her opium addiction and the "friends" she keeps meeting. We don't really know that much about her. She may act nice, but well, that's quite literally her job. One way or the other, I feel like her true colors were always going to reveal itself. Again, I wish we saw more of this, but alas, though I still think what we had made perfect sense.
There are lot of things, about a lot of characters that I wish we saw more of. But I think part of the problem is that there are only 12 episodes. Even with Jeongnyeon I think there are things that were a bit fast-paced and could've done with more development. I can't help but feel like this show really could've used 16 episodes, which could've remedied a lot of these problems.
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2 Aunt Tim
November 11, 2024 at 7:20 PM
Youngseo is the clear winner in the character development department. She could have chosen to be self-centred and take all the credit for herself, but she is so honest. And seeing how Jeongnyeon is not a threat to her at first and now values her as healthy competition to help her grow, as well as saving her from drowning shows how deeply Youngseo cares for Jeongnyeon and Maeran.
As for Okgyeong though, she's a completely different person this week. She feels so defeated that her handpicked protege's voice will never be the same and probably will not find another one like Jeongnyeon to give her some sort of excitement.
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3 panshel
November 11, 2024 at 10:49 PM
I have zero sympathy for Jeong-nyeon, however, Director Kang is partly to blame. If she had not begged the other judges at the audition to give Jeong-nyeon a second chance, then maybe she wouldn't have coughed up blood and collapsed onstage. Jeong-nyeon's pity party was exasperating to watch, so I enjoyed the middle of Episode 10 much more without her in it.
During their "Princess and the Fool" production, I was struggling to recall the plot of River Where the Moon Rises. Was Princess Pyeonggang a bloodthirsty ruler in the drama? Did On Dal die in the drama? Which character in their stage did Lee Ji-hoon play?
A part of me agreed with Director Kang that Ok-gyeong is very irresponsible to quit in the middle of their shows as it really puts Maeran out, but another part of me was secretly happy at Ok-gyeong screwing Maeran over.
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4 Aigoo-ka-choo
November 11, 2024 at 11:41 PM
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5 Aigoo-ka-choo
November 11, 2024 at 11:42 PM
Things I was happy to get in this drama:
1. An incredible introduction to a beautiful, nearly forgotten artform of female theatre (gukgeuk) and amazing renditions of those stage shows on screen - Brava! 👏💖
Found this interesting tidbit from the Korea Times newspaper as well:
"While "pansori" (traditional Korean musical storytelling) was safeguarded after being designated as an intangible cultural asset, all-female gukgeuk was excluded from support, leading to a severing of its lineage."😬
2. An incredibly complex relationship between two women who could have been merely 'rivals' but have been shown as so much more (and of course, Young-seo is a character who really shines).
Things I was not happy to get:
1. A ridiculously frustrating lead who ruins her own voice, after not listening to literally everyone who knew what they were talking about and then was still convinced they were wrong about the medical outcome, but never once seemingly blamed herself for bringing this about...
Double frustration for this being also exactly what her mother did years before!
2. No resolution for all of the theatre troupes money being stolen. No follow up consequences for Hye-rang as the princess who facilitated all the thieving.
3. Ok-gyung suddenly turning into a full-blown villain... The idea that she was at the end of her creative tether with the troupe was well established. She must have told everyone that she was hoping for someone to replace her. But once she saw this could be Yeong-seo rather than our FL, why did she ask if she would leave the troupe with her? I didn't understand that at all. sigh. 😖
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6 Kurama
November 11, 2024 at 11:52 PM
Youngseo is the heroin for me! She grew up so much. She listens people and takes their advices to become a better artist.
Jeongnyeon is selfish, everything is about her and her passion. She doesn't care about people around her. And how you grew up beside the sea and can't swim?
Ok-gyung and Hye-rang didn't do this job for the same reason. Hye-rang wants to be famous and wants glory and money and now she got them, she doesn't need anything else. Ok-Gyung wants to be an artist, to feel emotions with her acting and to grow as an artist. She needed to leave because she was clearly unhappy.
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TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 3:29 AM
I read this in a book about the haenyeo of Jeju that it was not common, not done, for women to swim even living by the sea. Thus, the female divers were even more iconoclastic. I was surprised, but then we see the same restrictions on physical activities for women in conservative societies even today.
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Kurama
November 12, 2024 at 4:02 AM
But Youngseo could swim and Jeongnyeon is not really the type to listen people saying she shouldn't swim.
But in general, I'm surprised how Koreans can't swim.
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TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 5:49 AM
Yeah, that's true. I can only imagine more affluent, progressive women learning to swim as Korea modernized. In fact, Young-seo's snooty mom might have enrolled her girls in some fancy class at a private club as a status symbol. (It might also be a lot easier to learn in a swimming pool than the sea.) Just speculating...way too much over a minor plot point. 😅
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mk
November 12, 2024 at 9:06 AM
My mom is from Busan and can't swim 😂
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
November 12, 2024 at 11:28 AM
Same. Living near the sea doesn't mean you're born a fish or something. LOL you need to learn like everybody else.
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Kurama
November 12, 2024 at 11:45 AM
But having a free access helps a lot.
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7 spazmo
November 12, 2024 at 12:34 AM
i just love her sister so much...
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8 world-smitten
November 12, 2024 at 2:32 AM
Man this show. It's so uneven, but so fascinating and I can't be impartial about it because I see so much of my younger self in it.
Jeongnyeon is a 100% a diva, but she fell in love with gukgeuk hard and fast, and not only that, discovered that she could be good at it. Loving and being talented at an artform - especially one as competitive and precarious as gukgeuk - can be like an obsession. Like there's this overwhelming compulsion inside of you, this force that needs urgent release. Some artists have a very levelheaded approach to their discipline, for others it's something more consuming, more desperate. Losing your ability or your chance to make that art can be like death. Getting a bit personal here, but when I was 19, I was paralysed by my fear of not becoming an animator. It was a fixation that made me a lonely, anxious person. When it quickly became clear that I couldn't become an animator (for various reasons), I got really depressed. I grew up some more, got a job and got through it, but for a while, I couldn't pick up a pencil without feeling sick. It's silly, self-indulgent, folly of the young, but it's a very real way that some artists relate to their work. And that's why I'm okay with Jeongnyeon walking willingly into Hye-rang's trap. Hye-rang also has an obsessive relationship with gugkgeuk - gukgeuk is where Ok-gyung is; Ok-gyung, the prince of Maeran, the master of her craft, belongs to Hye-rang. Both Hye-rang and Jeongnyeon have very unhealthy relationships with the craft, but Jeongnyeon loses her voice, which forces her to relate with her art in a different way, to see how an imperfect voice can still be a channel for that force inside of her. Episode 10's ending is beautiful in a way I struggle to describe. Yong-rye's wounded voice cracking, then rising, the sun rising over the beaches of Mokpo. Ugh, this show just gets it. I didn't expect Jeongnyeon's coming-of-age to take this turn, but Episode 10 tied it together for me. I wouldn't have it any other way.
I don't think Ok-gyung's switch-up was unexpected. Without Jeongnyeon, the one hope she had for staying in Maeran, there was nothing holding her there. Her break-up from Maeran was always going to be ugly, especially since Director Kang and Hye-rang are both in varying levels of denial about the future of gukgeuk. It's so sad. Kim Yoonhye's performance in the break-up scene is sublime. Her delivery of the line, "What about me", gave me chills - like Hye-rang is a lost child. And someone mentioned getting a full gukgeuk performance from this cast - yess, please.
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TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 3:28 AM
Thank you for sharing your story. I think you posted it while I was (slowly) composing my comment and kept (and keep getting) getting server errors. Grrr. And I relate very much to that obsession (also in a different creative field).
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world-smitten
November 12, 2024 at 4:09 AM
Haha thanks for reading. it's super embarrassing to look back on & talk abt it now, but I understand how a 19yr old could sink herself for art lol. I don't approve, but I can't judge 😅
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TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 5:52 AM
❤️ We can be as kind to your 19-year-old self as we are to the flailing young characters here. I do see though from the comments that the drama is failing to elicit, if not sympathy, then understanding, perhaps even interest, in such artists in many.
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world-smitten
November 12, 2024 at 7:32 AM
Omg thank youu, that's so kind 🥹 but yes I don't blame ppl for disliking Jeongnyeon, especially since her character has been pretty babied thru the story. Episode 8 was just too abrupt in taking her character down this road. And also, I'm kinda happy that ppl recognise her behaviour as self-involved. Better than romanticising her imo.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 13, 2024 at 1:33 PM
I remember contemplating ... though hypothetically, of course, ... that what if I could *actually* improve my singing to what I wanted by making the proverbial sacrifice of my right arm. I would probably have done it.
Anyhow, though many of the things I did to improve my voice hurt, and some left me open to strong emotions I couldn't control, they were all either very healthy or at least kind of healthy.
It felt really insane to see Jeung-nyeon ruin her voice and as I've said elsewhere, it hurts my throat to hear her broken voice as it is now. I miss her beautiful voice of the earlier episodes. Also, denying the sensible advice from everybody but Hye-rang made her seem the more insane. @wonhwa told me that the advice Hye-rang gave her was something *actually* considered a practice technique at a point in the last century. If we had heard Jeung-nyeon hear about that a couple of times, even just as stories about legendary Pansori singers, her drop from driven artist to driven-mad artist would have been easier to follow, maybe?
world-smitten: Hugs to you and your own young self.
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world-smitten
November 14, 2024 at 3:02 AM
Thank youu!!🫂
Jeongnyeon hearing legendary stories of pansori singers using that insane technique, leading her to listen to Hye-rang, would've been such a good workaround! Sighh what could've been.
Interestingly, theres this film called "the sound of a flower" w/ Bae Suzy, about the first female pansori master. It takes place a century before Jeongnyeon, and features (male) pansori singers using a similar technique. The heroine has to overcome the physical boundaries of this technique to sing "as well as" the men. Jeongnyeon obviously shows the silliness of such a risky technique, but the film, which is frankly very chauvinist, isn't critical of it at all. I wonder how the validity of that technique had something to do w/ pansori performance being male-dominated
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 5:16 AM
Some singers develop technique based on the difficulties they meet. If they have something good for starters, it can become better, also if they get hoarse many times along the way.
But singing till you bleed means you have hurt your vocal chords very much. You will get scar tissue on them, and they will not be able to meet properly.
A voice can still be forced through, if you press hard, pressing them together to close the uneven space. You have *one* guess as to the concequences of pressing on like that ...
But singing for a shorter time in a place that makes you want to fill up your lungs can make you better at breathing, and if you feel that your heart is filled with the greatness of nature, you diaphragm will mostly react and be ... bouncy? tense, but in a good way? You know all the phrases about feelings and the stomach? And you will feel the support* of your voice. If only you rest your voice sufficiently between that, you can grow stronger and better.
Climbing high in the mountains will already better your singing voice, actually, just like the running exercise they did as part of the training actually makes sense.
Also, I talked to a rock singer once, who had ben used to losing his voice, until one day when they were rehearsing and he (pardon me) needed to go to the toilet, but had no time, so he tensed up some of those muscles and after some hours of doing that to his surprise found out that his voice was unharmed by that day's rehearsal. (Would recommend better ways of doing that, though. But it worked for him).
*More nerdiness: "Support" is actually, more than anything, holding back air from the vocal chords and only letting it go in a small stream. Arguably, there are other elements, but this is the core of it. Mostly, we tend to let go of the air when we have used it for breathing, and the vocal chords can't control that. So we tense up the muscles around the throat, harming the small, soft vocal chords. The main muscle for breathing in and for holding the air is the diaphragm.
In Denmark we say about certain strong feelings that we feel "suction in the stomach" (et sug i maven). It can be for fear or sorrow, but mostly it's for love and hope. It's literally what it says: The diaphragm muscle gets tense, but not in a knot (that would be "a stone in the stomach"/"en sten i maven") but like a trampolin. When relaxed, it is shaped more like a tent, and when active, more like a trampoline. The trampoline creates a vacuum and sucks in air, and the same trampoline can hold in air and let go slowly. You can train it by thinking of things that make you want to giggle happily - Jo Estill said "Like when a child is funny, and you don't want to hurt it, so you hold back your laugh" or when a K-drama star is doing the big bed wriggle-and-kick for happiness - they have that feeling. Therefore, you don't get hoarse from squeeling for joy unless you keep at it for a long time. If you screamed like that without...
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 5:17 AM
Jo Estill said "Like when a child is funny, and you don't want to hurt it, so you hold back your laugh" or when a K-drama star is doing the big bed wriggle-and-kick for happiness - they have that feeling. Therefore, you don't get hoarse from squeeling for joy unless you keep at it for a long time. If you screamed like that without feeling it, you could hurt your voice very quickly, just saying.
OKay, that was enough singing technique for today from and DK-Drama.
Very nerdy Danish stuff: @enriquequierecagar @turtuallySarcastic
world-smitten
November 14, 2024 at 10:17 AM
This is soo interesting! I never thought about the biological component of singing like that. It's very athletic (???) in that sense
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 11:06 AM
There is at least an athletic element to it. Especially if you want to sing opera or like Aretha Frankling, or like Freddy Mercury.
Also, I once tried training for beginners with some running club, just one time, and was surprised that I didn't suck at interval training. But then they said that what it was really good for was lung capacity, and that was a thing I had been training - standing still, and just breathing with resistance, so kind of weightlifting for the breathing muscles - everyday for years. (If you close your lips and suck in air through a small hole, you are already training it).
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 11:07 AM
AAHHHHH I don't know where that -g came from! I know how to spell her name! FrankliN, period.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 13, 2024 at 1:36 PM
Jeung-nyeon is still the protagonist for me, and a heroine, though a tragic one, for now, at least.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 13, 2024 at 1:44 PM
PS: A little bit of opium, for a limited time, was not the worst idea. To make those muscles relax and and be at ease without singing for a while ... If she did it under someone's oversight, it could have been an idea.
When I was little, there was a teeny little bit of opium in the cough mixture that was legal and could be bought at the drugstore. Though I liked it very much, I am not an opium addict today.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 2:56 AM
It also had alcohol and the taste of sweet liquorice. Yummi-yum!
I admit to be addicted enough to long for it whenever I have a bad cough. 😂
A teeny weeny bit of opium without the liquorice can only be half as addictive, so I say she should've tried it. Also, if she fell asleep, at least she wouldn't be ruining her voice while sleeping. It would be like knocking someone down because they were going to jump from a roof top.
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world-smitten
November 14, 2024 at 10:19 AM
I think the opium thing is just kdramas being extra conservative lol. This is a country where marijuana gets you jail time 😭
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Kurama
November 14, 2024 at 10:42 AM
Opium dens in Asia were a big problem.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 14, 2024 at 10:50 AM
I know they were a problem - and as I recall England went to war to prevent them from forbidding it.
And I would not want her to go down, like Ok-gyong is obviously doing. It was just that, in the middle of all the suggestions that didn't work, a moderate amount of opium - not to go on a trip, but to relax the muscles and maybe get some extra sleep. You know, all sorts of things that are poisonous can save you when used at the right moment, for the right reason, in the right amount.
world-smitten
November 14, 2024 at 12:54 PM
@Kurama ahh that's true, I completely forgot about that context 🤦♀️
bomibeans
November 14, 2024 at 2:31 PM
I didn't even watch a second of this show but I can relate and love your comment. I don't remember the last time I saw the exploration of the relationship between the artist and their art. Must be rare in cinema. It needs to be explored more because it's a fascinating topic to meditate on and take lessons from.
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9 TwoCentsWorth
November 12, 2024 at 3:19 AM
To paraphrase you @mistyisles, It's not without its faults, but Jeongnyeon – The Star is Born feels like a love letter to the performing arts, and to the kind of passion for one’s craft that can be just as destructive as it is life-giving.
Hear, hear!
We see how it has positively impacted Young-seo and negatively Jeong-nyeon. I love Young-seo's affirming arc as much as anyone, but I find the destructive nature of Jeong-nyeon's passion also fascinating to watch. From what I've read, artists can be very selfish, bullheaded, in the pursuit of their art. It doesn't make them very likeable, however, as some comments attest.
I also noted everyone is emphasizing Jeong-nyeon's acting skills. Will that lead her to working with Ok-gyung in film eventually? While Jeong-nyeon's star may rise again, pansori we know is fading. But with only two episodes left, I don't know how much we'll explore the end of an era.
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10 Kafiyah Bello
November 12, 2024 at 5:29 AM
Young Seo is the best part of this show. Her charactdr arc has been a beautiful thing to see.
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