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A Virtuous Business: Episodes 7-8

Our extremely put-upon heroine struggles to deal with the aftermath of her traumatic experience, but she finds support in both expected and surprising places. Meanwhile, our hard working mom of four deals with her own crisis that threatens to add further financial and emotional burden to their already struggling household.

 
EPISODES 7-8

We pick up right where we left off last week with Jung-sook’s traumatic experience with yet another terrible man. Thankfully, Jung-sook wasn’t injured but she’s had enough of being the talk of the town, so she keeps the attempted assault a secret, even from her partners. Do-hyun promises to do the same and instructs the department to keep the victim anonymous, but a detective blabs to some ajummas, so the whole neighborhood rumor mill starts up again. That’s how the rest of the quartet hear about what happened to Jung-sook (who didn’t even take a break from work, although her PTSD makes it impossible for her to work as usual).

A cute conversation between Min-ho and Dong-woo about facing a bully makes Jung-sook realize she shouldn’t cower as the innocent party. The four saleswomen suit up – Ju-ri gives them a fierce makeover that includes winged eyeliner – and go to the police station. They’re there to counteract the neighborhood ajummas who are making a statement… except for once, the ajummas are on Jung-sook’s side. They testify in her favor and say that no matter how they feel about the adult products business, they know that Jung-sook is a good person. The man is most certainly guilty.

Having the support she needs, Jung-sook is able to face her attacker. She shocks the room by screaming at him and even hitting him on top of his head like she’s playing whack-a-mole. Do-hyun, and everyone else at the station, insists they saw nothing. Wink wink.

Things finally start looking up for Jung-sook who is promoted to Geumje’s branch manager for Fantasy Lingerie. Now that Jung-sook’s life starts to calm down, Young-bok’s life begins to get more complicated. She discovers she’s pregnant with her fifth child and worries how they’ll be able to afford another child while they’re barely getting by as it is. She’s planning to have an abortion.

The situation brings to light that her goofy husband PARK JONG-SUN (Im Chul-soo) is has an unexpected backstory. Apparently, he used to be a seasoned criminal who did heists! It’s not that Young-bok has to support them because he has no skills or can’t hold down a job – it’s that most places won’t hire ex-cons.

His old partner gets out of jail and tempts him with a job: being the getaway driver for a robbery worth millions of won. Jong-sun wants to stay on the straight and narrow like he promised Young-bok, but he hates not being able to contribute while they struggle in poverty. Watching him sweetly tuck his children in and quietly sob how sorry he is to Young-bok while they all sleep in their one room is heart wrenching.

Geum-hee learns of Young-bok’s struggles, and they get the chance to further bond. Geum-hee thoughtfully buys a box of cute hairclips for Young-bok’s daughters and encourages her not to give up hope. Although Geum-hee comes off as a woman who has it all, her life isn’t all she thought it would be. We get flashbacks that show her as a young woman, determined not to live a “normal” life. She told her now husband on their first blind date that she would never have kids and would live as a modern woman. He was adoring and promised much, but as often happens, he began taking her for granted. He does start to make more time for her, though, so maybe there’s hope for them too.

As for Ju-ri, she starts to pay more attention to Dae-geun after hearing his mother Young-ja telling him not to come to his grandma’s birthday celebration because his lack of education will make him say something embarrassing. That is cold.

Ju-ri and Dae-geun end up drinking together, and he’s painfully earnest which endears him to Ju-ri. He apologizes for his misunderstanding – he thought she liked him because she told him he looked like a celebrity. After he cries over not being able to be with his grandma, he and Ju-ri drunkenly make out. Dae-eun is then absolutely besotted with her, but it was his first kiss, so he vacillates between being ecstatic and worried.

Meanwhile, Jung-sook convinces Do-hyun to let her help him on his quest to find his birth parents. He doesn’t hold anything back and makes her a full investigative partner. He even lets her into his basement lair with all his investigation materials. As with everything, Jung-sook takes her job seriously and dives right in. She starts slipping casual questions in while chatting with her ajumma clients, hoping to gain some intel.

Do-hyun finally asks Caption Seo about the arson case and learns that all the parents whose children were taken left Geumje long ago. He sneaks a peak at Captain Seo’s notebook and learns where some of the families now live. One family owns a wedding hanbok shop, and Do-hyun struggles to focus while Jung-sook pretends to be his fiancée so they can look for clues. He really loses focus when she tries on a pretty hanbok.

Although the mother of the kidnapped baby is for sure not Do-hyun’s family, seeing him gives her hope that she might reunite with her own son one day. She assures him his own mother is certainly waiting for him too. Jung-sook breaks down sobbing, prompting the woman to ask Do-hyun, “Are you sure she’s not your lover?” HA.

I like that Jung-sook is getting the chance to help Do-hyun, even if it’s more in an emotional support way. He’s the actual detective and doesn’t need much help in that area, but he’s touched by how enthusiastic and determined she is to do everything in her power to help him. And she really does give it her all. But being around her so much flusters him to the point he starts avoiding her, which just makes her think she’s been a terrible investigation partner. It gets worse when he gets so flustered on the phone while she asks why he’s avoiding her that he accidentally hangs up on her.

Jung-sook takes it with her usual grace and returns his materials to him, apologizing for not being helpful. She takes her leave, but then immediately turns back to say, actually, she’s upset at all his mixed signals and feels backstabbed. Then she doubles back again to apologize for what she just said. Haha. Do-hyun finally uses his words and admits that he’s been avoiding her, but not for the reasons she thinks. Then, he hugs her.

While Do-hyun and Jung-sook are having a moment, across town, Jong-sun makes a panicked call from a phonebooth to an ambulance. He shakily tells the operator, “Someone is dead.” It looks like he decided to do that job after all.

Okay, I did not expect goofy Jong-sun to be a past career criminal – that was a solid character twist. It explains a lot about their family and dynamics. With all the questionable men in this drama, it’s lovely to see a man who adores and prioritizes his wife and kids. I’m dreading how bad things are about to get for them as a family with this latest development. Seeing someone so kind and trying so hard make a poor decision for good reasons with such dire consequences is tragic. Does no one just get to be happy in this town?

 

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The farmer’s assault and attempted rape basically ends on the local women re-stating their claims when his wife left 2 years ago. Everyone sides with Jeong-suk but she learns from her son to stand up for herself. The 4 ladies are slowly growing their inner circle to include more town’s women. What was the weakest part of the story in episode 7 was Dae-Geun’s. He cannot see his grandmother because he is unsuccessful? Really? He may be shy, awkward and not the brightest bulb, but he is still family. I guess the only one who sticks up for him is his sister. (I think pairing him with Ju-ri is too forced and strange.) But what bubbled to the drunken surface is a growing theme that Korean men are mostly introverted, perverted, clueless, socially awkward, inept, man-children and yet, aggressive. This theme seems to be targeted toward the growing number of current Korean women who are afraid of Korean men or find them basically useless. As such, Jong-sun appears to be at the edge of going back to a life of crime. Pharmacist Choi may be a jerk at times, but he is still a competent professional as he correctly diagnoses Young-Bok. I found another convenient “get together” when Do-Hyeon allows Jeong-suk to help him find his parents. Her note that surprised him the most was the possibility that his parents are still looking for their stolen child. He must have never thought of that . . . really, when the country has a national data base for foreign adoptees looking for their parents? (My theory is that the fires and stolen babies was part of a profitable foreign adoption business.)

Episode 8 has our obsessive detective losing concentration because of Jeong-su’s kindness and beauty. But the heart of this episode was the difference between Young-Bok and Geum-Hui’s marriages. Geum-Hui went on one blind date and laid down the law: she would be a modern woman who would not have children. In a conservative era, that was unknown. But a month later, Won-Bong comes back to propose - - he would accept her terms. But on her anniversary, Geum-Hui starts to feel regret with her decision as she is jealous of Young-Bok’s full house of children. Young-Bok’s difficult situation is all tied to her husband being an ex-convict. This is why he cannot get work. Young-Bok knows she cannot support another mouth to feed, but her husband does not want her to terminate. Later, she relents as she mends an infant’s clothes. This is why Jong-sun is desperate to provide for his family (to the point of this weekend’s cliffhanger). I thought last week Jeong-Suk would have to hit rock bottom in order to prosper, but it looks like Young-Bok will take that role.

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I love this show so much!!

1. I love how all the neighbors went there to testify in JS's favor. When they were calling her in the street, I had the feeling they were calling her to comfort her, and I'm glad that I was right.

And I'm glad hardware ahjumma knew that what her husband did was wrong and felt in debt with JS. I still don't feel all that comfortable with her, since she said many nasty things about Jeong Suk, but at least we know that she isn't just hateful for fun, and she does respect JS as a person.

2. This week was more focused on the couples and I'm totally fine with it. I love them all!

2.1. I'm so happy Jeong Suk has finally started to see how supportive and thoughtful Do Hyun is, and that she's feeling more close to him.
And him swooning everytime he interacts with her, to the point dude can't even speak on the phone properly. Awwwwwww. I love them so much.

And Jeong Suk helping him, getting more nervous than him, and even crying on his behalf, and him finding comfort in her words and actions... aww, they're so wonderful. I love them.

I hated the hug tho.

2.2. Ju Ri and the pharmacy dude are fun together. I wonder if her future MIL will be happy that someone's interested in her son or if she's going to make a fuss about Ju Ri being a single mom.

And I hope he gets to see his grandma soon. No one lives forever, he should cherish her all he wants while he can. No, but, why is he listening to his mom? Just go to your grandma boy!

2.3. Omo, Cat Boss really was a Cat Boss. That's why he can't find any job. Aigoo. Too bad there is no Deer company here.

Yong Bok and Cat Boss used to be the fun and color, but this time they made me cry. A lot.
I just wish them the best.

And I'm going to ignore what happened in that final scene, because why? Like, WHY? Having a ML detective doesn't turn this into a crime show. So, why?

2.4. It was so sweet to see Geum Hee and her husband remember the day of their marriage like it was yesterday. Even though their dynamic has changed, it's clear that they have always loved each other and they always will.

And it seems like Geum Hee doesn't want to live the modern life anymore...? But that is a lie obviously. If it was a simple change of heart she wouldn't look sad, but excited.

Oh! I loved how her husband literally ran to her after getting approval from his parents. And now he's running to get her a scarf, aww.

3. Oh, the strong makeup!! They looked so fierce! Loved it!
And Jeong Suki was looking beautiful in that hanbok too!

4. I loved how Geum Hee was comforting Young Bok. And I love that she didn't even question anything about her husband.
While Young Bok was scared of losing this friendship, Geum Hee was too busy buying things for her kids. She didn't doubt YB once.

I really love how supportive and understanding they are of each other. These little moments are everything.

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Hard agree with this. The character layers in this drama are everything. The collection of beautifully observed moments are like charms on a bracelet.

To me the only bum note was also the 'hug'. The issue of consent in K-dramas is often a thorny one - but this felt wrong in the context of our heroine having just experienced an assault (and still clearly suffering the aftereffects).

Also, (this may be a translation thing) I'm not really into the idea that he wasn't sure how he felt about her, so he had to grab her and forcibly hug her to confirm it one way or the other....Um, dude, just work it out for yourself!

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Exactly. I skipped those first ten minutes and still felt uncomfortable, so Idk why the guy who literally was there would think that force her in his embrace was a good idea.

And yep, pretty sure he can figure out that without her help.

It's a shame because I thought he was going to confess, and I was so excited to see her reaction. But that random hug is just ? I don't know what to do with that. "I don't know what I feel so let me hug you"? that's something I wasn't expecting from him.

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I don't think he will confess so fast; she has just been divorced, it would be almost like stepping up at a funeral and saying: "Oh, and by the way, if your bed feels a bit empty now, just give me a call".
Okay, not quite, but you know what I mean.

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Well, when they were talking about the fantasies she said she wanted to start having fun. Like you said, she's divorced now. She can do whatever she wants.

Plus, a confession doesn't mean that he's going to ask her to date him.

I would prefer an honest confession than all those misunderstandings she was creating in her head because of his lie, or or a forced hug.
He can just tell her that he's trying to keep his distance because he's starting to like her and that's "inappropriate", and then she can decide what to do (or not do) with that.

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Nobody's perfect but I think the 'I wasn't expecting [it] from him' is the part that makes it particularly disappointing.... He is such a great guy in other ways and has been very cute in his gentle interactions with her...this felt very jarring.

Also, if the hug is for him to see whether he likes her or not, then what's the negative scenario? "Oh, I just pressed my body against you without asking, and now I've decided I don't fancy you after all. Soz "...😬👀

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Exactly, it's because it's him.

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I hated the ML being rude to the FL in an attempt to push her away, because he "liked" her. Why did he do that? She's divorced, he admires both her beauty and her character--just let things flow! No need for any action at this point. If you are shy or uncertain, don't confess, but no reason to try to repel her! Just see how the relationship develops!

I assume that because he is “only” in his mid-30s and he grew up in the U.S. in the 70s and 80s, he is afraid of feeling sexual attraction. Of course all men who respected women who grew up in the later twentieth century in the U.S. (e.g., YOURS TRULY) were so timid and shy we acted like 12 year olds afraid of girl's cooties when we reached our thirties. HA!

That's not even to mention what everyone says above that out of the blue he hugs her in the street and she goes rigid and he can't sense that, let her go and then at that point explain himself-- say “sorry I did that, but I really like you and I couldn't say it.”

I should mention that in the 1990s I was about the same age as this character supposedly was, also having grown up in the U.S., and I found his behavior, incomprehensible--unless like every other man in this show, he is so emotionally immature he doesn't deserve the FL, an assumption I am now making.

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I appreciate your understandable rant 🤣

To use the modern parlance of semaphore 😬, this was a guy waving a lot of green flags (makes a pleasant change!) and then suddenly one big red one for no apparent reason!! grrrr.

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I think she wants a mix - what she doesn't want to do is concentrating her whole life on hoping to impress the towns VIP's and get scolded by her husband for not being modern enough *and* for sticking out and having other hobbies than flower arranging.
Initially, to me she seemed to be someone who would be happy staying at home, if her husband would come home early and be happy to spend time with her. But that's not what he did. And she was so lonely she was trying to bribe our FL to stay a little extra with whatever excuse.
And I think she would love to have child ... I think she might end up either adopting or being a kind of bonus mum to Yong Bok and Cat Boss's children?

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Ohh, that's interesting.

The toys business gave her the "modern life" (I don't really know what that means tho LOL) she wanted, with a job to enjoy and also some new friends to spend her time with, but maybe in the family department she wants something more classic with kids and more time with her husband.

And now that you mention it, it would be lovely to see her interact with Yong Bok's kids. She has all the qualities of the "favorite aunt", the aunt you know that is always thinking of you.

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My initial thought was Geum-Hui to have her Pharmacist husband hire Young-Bok's husband.

There still a real big missing piece in Geum-Hui's backstory. A "modern woman" to me meant that she would not be a housewife but have a career. What happened to that direction? Did the move to a rural village isolate her from her family, old friends and career prospects?

And I think she does have regrets, not about her marriage, but about her decision not to have a clear purpose.

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I love how positively chaste the romances are in this drama. Between our husband and wife couples and our cop/top manager. Their fantasies were much sexier.

Also, I knew the butcher lady wouldn't bad mouth her. The towns folk are nosy as hell, but seem to be good people.

I hope our resident househusband/catwalker didn't do it. That would be sad, the man was trying so hard.

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Whether he actually said yes to being the chauffeur or not, (I hope he didn't), I am sure he is not the one who killed that dead person. I feel so sad for him!

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Did any other musical fans get Carousel vibes with this episode? "You can have fun with a son but you gotta be a father to a girl"

I'm sorry, but I just don't care enough about the male lead's mysterious backstory to have kept my interest during those scenes. That hanbok was GORGEOUS though. I just don't really get scenes where they do the "wow, look at her all dressed up" reveal when it's a character who's already known to be a hottie. Like, the pretty female lead, who we know has won beauty contests in the past, looks pretty in a hanbok? Gasp!

The village seemed less terrible this episode, but early on I was thinking the four women should move. I work with sexual assault survivors and the female lead's acute response was both realistic and upsetting (I was practically yelling at the TV, "Stop avoiding! Feel your feelings! Talk to supportive people!" )

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Do-hyun and Jung-sook: I love their relationship. They found each other at the good time (a good timing is so important). They both help each other in a differen way. Jung-sook sobbing in the shop was so funny. She's a pretty funny character without trying like when she was tipsy and made goings and comings to tell everything she needed to. Her honesty lets him opening to her.

Young-bok's story made things very serious between her unwanted pregnancy and her husband's past. How can they refuse to hire such a cute husband?

I was wondering why Geum-hee didn't have kids and I'm happy to know it was her decision.

These women never cease to amaze me!

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She's funny in such an adorable way. I kept smiling every time she would come back to the camera frame to say something.

"How can they refuse to hire such a cute husband?" IKR? T.T
The scene of YB pretending to sleep while he was crying was so heartbreaking.

"These women never cease to amaze me!" x2.

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Just to add to 'these women never cease to amaze me' - this writer never ceases to amaze us,💖 because all this incredible character complexity is in the script. The amazing cast are just bringing it to life...

(I haven't seen the UK series it's based on, so I don't know how much of it is from the original, but props to that writer as well) 👏

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I love our ladies and the way they support each other. Just watching them bond makes me happy. I was so relieved that the townspeople came to support her. They may be gossipy but have decency.

I like the added story to each husband. It makes them more relatable.

I did feel the romance kinda didn’t work for me. May be I expected a slow burn. But I can see how these two work for each other.

I would have liked a few scenes with the ex-husband doing father duties like baby sitting but he completely disappeared. I wanted the child to spend time with his father with whom he did have a good bond.

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I did a lecture once on gendered language and how it reinforces sexism (you know, the difference between 'spinster' (sad cat lady) and 'bachelor' (having the time of his life), the way 'slut' is only used to condemn women.... and 'gossip' is an interesting one...👀

All I would say, is that I thought it was fascinating that the only real 'gossip' in this week's eps was that annoying detective, who let the cat out of the bag about the assault. 😱(I find him intensely irritating - his petty jealousy, his incompetence, and now his bragging and taking credit for things that other people have done)... he will probably get a redemption arc, but for now I hate him as much as his outfits!🤣

I thought the twist with the local women was another way in which the writer defied our expectations nicely..

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I like this show fine, the women are great characters. I realize the main point of the show is the development of the four main characters and the female bonding that’s occurring. And I’m definitely enjoying that, but two things already mentioned keep me from loving the plot.

As @welh640 already alluded to, all the male characters, not to put to fine a point on it, are just stupid dolts, whether they are nice guys or not. (I'm not going to get into whether that is accurate in real life or not.) None, zero, are worthy partners for the women. The last straw for me was the MLs behavior last episode, as I mentioned above.

2. @kafiyah-bello calls this drama "chaste." I'm going to be a little harsher. This is a drama about the selling of sex toys, and yet, probably to reassure those who might be offended, there have only been two kissing scenes, both comic--the husband suddenly turned on by his wife in a negligee, and the young pharmacy assistant drunkenly mauling the equally drunk hairdresser. There were no scenes that even hinted how customers who bought the lingerie/products might have their relationships changed, or have increased physical intimacy because of them.

Abortion was suggested, but as ALWAYS, it won't happen.

The show, therefore, somewhat ironically represents the repudiation of sexual attitudes that supposedly its characters are fighting for, and that might be linked to their rights as women. The idea that sex isn't always dirty, and in fact is perfectly fine IF non-exploitative and linked to loving relationships or marriage would seem to me to be a logical theme for a show like this. But as always in kdramas, no matter how bold the women are, the men won't cooperate, either not having entered puberty yet in their 30s, or regarding sex as something that exists only to gratify male desire, loving marriage be damned.

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surely you're forgetting the memorable in flagrante delicto sex scene with the husband and best friend!! (Yes, I am joking, but whilst we're on that - I remember wondering at the time if it was a deliberate ploy to make having affairs seem like a terrible idea, because that looked like the most passion-less sex imaginable)...

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