Love Next Door: Episodes 5-6
by missvictrix
Lost dreams are now found, but so are ten-year-old (almost) love letters. While our heroine might be on a high of finding and pursuing her dreams at last, our hero is struggling with his feelings and trying to protect himself in the wake of them. But if we know anything about our heroine it’s that she’s good at bulldozing her way past obstacles.
EPISODES 5-6
Now we’re talking! With the Gripe Greip plot arc out of the way and our characters behaving fully in-character again, our drama finally starts to shine. These were two delightful episodes, and the emotional core of the show is now feeling strong enough to carry the weight of the patchwork-y plot (and I say that in the kindest sense). Let’s jump in!
Poor Seung-hyo is having a hard time dealing with his feelings (aka, acknowledging that he still likes Seok-ryu), so his knee-jerk reaction is to push her away. He’s suddenly flustered around her after last week’s hugfest, and tries to push her out of Atelier In ASAP. But whose arms are those wrapping around Seung-hyo from behind? Oh, it’s just his ex-girlfriend JANG TAE-HEE, the gorgeous artisan who wants him back (and a super fun guest appearance from my girl Seo Ji-hye).
What’s most funny about this ex-girlfriend plot arc is that Seung-hyo obviously has a type, because Tae-hee and Seok-ryu get on like peanut butter and jelly. And — thank the drama gods — Tae-hee soon faces the fact that a) Seung-hyo is not interested in rekindling with her and b) he is literally a beacon of light and happiness when he’s around Seok-ryu. Take that, overplayed ex-girlfriend trope! By the end of the week’s episodes, Tae-hee is on the SxS ship as much as we are.
But Tae-hee and her story arc aren’t just to push the romance ahead: they’re also to help Seok-ryu realize the dream that’s been inside her all along. First, following the Namsan lock incident where Seung-hyo helped Seok-ryu let go of past trauma, she cooks an amazing hotpot. When we lingered on her cooking I was just glad to finally have a female lead in a K-drama that can cook. But on closer glance, I was getting Chocolate vibes with the level of care that was taken in showing the food prepping and eating. Why, you might wonder, are we watching Seok-ryu cook and everyone enjoy her food?
The answer becomes clear later in the episode.
It turns out that Tae-hee wants to partner with Seung-hyo for a work project, and the Atelier In folks + Seok-ryu wind up on a field trip of sorts. At Tae-hee’s workshop, the grounds are filled with onggi and all sorts of fermenting ingredients therein. Seok-ryu is over the moon with this experience, asking questions galore, lapping it all up, and then later making kalguksu for everyone with the fresh doenjang and other ingredients. It was while everyone was fussing over the soup (and my mouth was watering) that I realized Seok-ryu’s dream before she realized it herself.
During the same outing, the flusteredness continues between Seung-hyo and Seok-ryu. As if the hug weren’t enough, he spent an evening drinking with her dad (lol) and fell asleep in Dong-jin’s bed. So imagine Seung-hyo’s shock when he’s being pounded awake by Seok-ryu (thinking it’s her little bro) — and in the scuffle he winds up half naked on top of her (of course). And then, in trying to extricate himself, he sprains his toe. LOL!
With that on his mind — and Seok-ryu’s infectious happiness over aged soy sauce and all things related to Korea cooking traditions — there are practically hearts in his eyes. Tae-hee sees it, we see it, Mo-eum’s seen it since high school — in fact, everyone probably sees it except for Seok-ryu (for now). In the meantime, the two share a moonlit moment in a field of earthenware pots, and it’s here that Seung-hyo finally accepts that he’s in love with her.
But love is not that easy, especially when you’re childhood friends and you’ve kept the roaring flame you’ve had going under wraps for so long (don’t ask me how). And when you’ve expressly overheard her say she’s still in love with her ex. So, Seung-hyo doubles down on his avoidance to the point where it really starts to drive a wedge between them. At first, Seok-ryu thinks he’s mad or upset at her; meanwhile, she just wants her partner in crime to rejoice in the cooking certification she’s (secretly) going for.
Once Seok-ryu realized she loves to cook, it’s like the plot universe opens up all this evidence that it’s the right path for her, from the fact that Mo-eum testifies she’s always loved cooking to the fond memories of watching her dad in their pokey tteokbokki shop.
Speaking of that shop, though — and Dad — drama is on the horizon. Seung-hyo accidentally sees Seok-ryu’s dad leaving a nightclub with a woman hanging all over him, and after this sight he waits for Dad to get home. They have a chat, which we are not privy to yet, but not long after Mom starts piecing things together too. Her husband has been out every night, there are weird receipts around, and she expects the worst and confronts him straight away. (This has gotta be the fastest moving plotline in history.)
The truth comes out that Dad is in legal trouble. Earlier in the episode we saw him acting all sweet when two YouTubers NerTubers turned up in the shop and wanted to film there. When we later see how that played out, the two guys “found” a hair in their food, got “burned” by the soup, and their “luxury” watch was damaged. Dad is distraught trying to deal with all the money he now owes them, but is too afraid to tell anyone.
Seok-ryu — who we know adores her father — has a plan in place to catch these shady influencers. She heads to a neighboring storefront for CCTV footage, but — alas — Seung-hyo already has it. Oh, and he has an epic sting operation all set up where he meets the scammers, debunks all their claims, and invites Dan-ho who is Extremely Interested in writing about this new wave of scammers popping up and hitting local businesses.
When the scammers can’t see a way out, they try to run away instead, and it’s actually hilarious watching Seung-hyo and Dan-ho try (and fail) to keep up with these guys. But it’s okay in the end. One guy runs into a pole on accident (omg lol), and Seok-ryu is on-scene and she whacks the other one with her purse and a “How dare you do that to my dad!” until Seung-hyo ends it with swift sidekick to the scammer.
In the scuffle, Seok-ryu was pushed to the ground, but don’t worry about her nosebleed — she said she’s just been overworked lately (must be all that vegetable chopping lol.) Still, that doesn’t stop Seung-hyo from heroically ripping off his expensive tie and holding it to her nose to stop the bleeding. Don’t worry about the scammer trying to escape. Little bro of many muscles is also on the scene, and delivers a well-aimed kick. And that’s why influencers are not to be trusted, kids.
After that little adventure (and Seung-hyo’s Mr. Darcy-level family problem-solving), Seok-ryu expects everything to go back to normal between them. However, Seung-hyo is all “we’re adults now” and “let’s respect each other’s privacy.” He’s cold and it’s disappointing, but it’s where the heart of this dramatic tension lies because we’ve previously seen him spill his guts to new neighborhood pal Dan-ho.
Seung-hyo had asked if he wanted to grab a drink, but instead of at a bar, Seung-hyo winds up at Dan-ho’s front door, meeting his — yes — little five-year-old daughter KANG YEON-DU (Shim Ji-yoo). The drink he gets is iced misugaru, and they chat in Dan-ho’s backyard after Yeon-do has fallen asleep. Can I just say… I love this bromance. They are self-proclaimed neighborhood friends, and boy does Seung-hyo need someone to talk to. And it turns out Dan-ho is a great listener. He hears all about Seung-hyo’s “friend” and how he’s in love with his childhood friend but he can’t confess because it’s complicated. Dan-ho — who knows full well what is going on here — tells Seung-hyo about a ~swimmer~ who always struggled to start strong, but then made up the time. “Even if it’s late, I would tell him to muster up courage just like that swimmer did.” Cue: Neighbor Mo-eum eavesdropping, confirming everything she already knew since high school.
As for Seok-ryu, she’s slowly piecing Seung-hyo’s strange behavior together. The contents of the letter he wrote in the time capsule, intending to confess to her. The stars he affixed to her ceiling. And (not pictured) all the million sweet and caring things he’s done as a part of her life since forever.
Well, when he rejects her gift of the first meal she’s made in her class — lovingly packed for him, knowing it’s his favorite from childhood — Seok-ryu is having none of this anymore. No she will not stay out of his life, thank you very much, and I love her impetuousness in this scene. She pushes back against all of Seung-hyo’s resistance and he finally breaks out with a tortured, “You’re going to make me lose my mind!”
Seok-ryu wonders what he really means, so she follows him, throws her shoe at him, and demands to know what he meant by that. Now, we all know that’s Seung-hyo speak for “I like you so much I am barely holding it together” — but will he admit it? We have to wait a week to find out, because the drama just pulled the cruelest trick ever and cut the episode mid-scene, mid-dialogue, mid-moment.
Like I said above, the show won me over this week with everything feeling a bit more crystallized, and the food/cooking angle is just *chef’s kiss.* I still think the writing is a little haphazard and the pacing either too fast or too slow, but I’ll take it if they can deliver more episodes like this in the coming weeks.
Also, they definitely heard us complaining about the Mo-eum/Dan-ho love line last week, because this week’s interactions brought back their dynamic of mutual interest, kindness, and a hefty dose of honesty. After Mo-eum learns that her favorite crop circle girl is his daughter (when Yeon-du calls 119 with a fever), she berates Dan-ho. But though we don’t have the whole story yet, we can see (and so can Mo-eum) that he’s a caring single dad who is doing his best to raise her. And speaking of full stories we don’t have yet, the drama also continues to hint that whatever went down in Seung-hyo’s family and why his parents are so strange/estranged. Will this play into his own hesitation around confessing to Seok-ryu? I’m thinking yes, because an Episode 7 confession/kiss might be too much to ask for. But then again, we already got the ex-girlfriend appearance trope out of the way.
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Tags: Jang Young-nam, Jeon Suk-ho, Jo Han-chul, Jung Hae-in, Jung So-min, Kim Ji-eun, Lee Seung-hyeop, Lee Seung-joon, Love Next Door, Park Ji-young, Yoon Ji-on
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1 i see castles
September 2, 2024 at 11:25 AM
was i perched on the website, waiting for your review to appear? 100% yes. i haven't felt this way about a drama in a good little while now, and i want to show it all the love in the world 🥰
thanks for your recap, missvictrix. you're right that the romances are burning slowly while the other plot points sometimes move at the speed of light. for me, the unevenness is forgotten when i become caught in the emotional movement of the show. i'm super interested in the parents and how their relationships mirror the way their children love. in fact, we see hints of Seok-ryu mirroring her parents (and specifically mum) and Seung-hyo's reservations are so clearly born from his parent's own distance and lack of warmth.
I am waiting for Seok-ryu's realization re: her feelings for Seung-hyo to parrell her realization about her dream. a bulldozer is such a great description of her. she always full frontal forward motion that she misses the obvious (i mean, so far the love is looking all the way one-sided, but i have hope). for his part, too, Seung-hyo approaches love and work in a similar manner-- patiently and diligently, but with perhaps too much idealizing. one needs to slow down, and the other needs to speed up.
the love story between the second leads also provides a nice balance. and i want to learn more about Dan-ho!!!! the little bromance that's brewing also feels really lovely.
i said this in the what were watching thread, but it bears repeating here: all the awards for 조한철's performance in episode 6🥰🥰🥰
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2 LillyBee
September 2, 2024 at 11:30 AM
Episode 5 was pretty forgettable. Though I'm glad she found her mojo.
Episode 6 was better. Mainly because I liked Dad's storyline and the money issues at hand. My eyes watered when his did.
It's interesting (and I find it relatable) that she would go towards good job + good money first and now she's circling back to wanting to do what she really wants to do (which might not make good money and Dad knows this).
As far as the two protagonists, him being irritable towards her is getting annoying/tiresome. Hopefully, they cut that out soon.
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3 Britney
September 2, 2024 at 11:31 AM
I thought this during Taxi Driver S2 when the village elders were scammed, is it a Korean thing or Asian thing or maybe it's a universal thing of letting a scam happen because you're too ashamed to tell anyone? As soon as he told people, specifically younger people, they INSTANTLY knew it was a scam. (Even I knew it was a scam as soon as the hair was shown)
But I can't even 100% blame him because his wife is constantly saying what a loser he is so why would he feel like he could share his burdens? And why would he wanna tell his kids when he already feels like a failure of a parent?
I didn't like this week's episodes much at all.
I'm kinda disappointed the guy from Lovely Runner hasn't been given more to do. As I was writing this I remembered he works at the gym the good at counseling employee go to. I think I would've much preferred seeing them at the gym than seeing the friend and reporter this week.
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4 Blue (@mayhemf)
September 2, 2024 at 11:36 AM
I struggled these two episodes. Ep 5 dragged a lot. 6 was much better.
The writing is all over the place at times and then suddenly it works. This makes it hard to drop the show!!
Mo Eum crossed the line with her unsolicited judgement about him. She knows nothing about him. She then goes on to eavesdropping her close friend talk to a neighbor. Not cool.
May be I should just drop this one.
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Unaspirated
September 2, 2024 at 7:34 PM
I was not a fan of Mo-eum scolding Dan-ho when she knew only a tiny fraction of the situation. I was so glad when she got scolded (and dropped) by Yeon-du! And then she totally didn’t learn her lesson and half scolded him again when he was having a beer and invited her to sit! I’m trying to remember all the other times that I actually did like her character because her over-stepping behavior towards him about his parenting is not doing it for me.
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Dylan [Suffering from Judge from Hell brainrot]
September 3, 2024 at 6:44 AM
Personally, I didn't like it when she just dumped drunken Dan-ho near the trash, on the street, and just left. But tbf, she probably didn't have that many other options.
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Unaspirated
September 3, 2024 at 1:49 PM
Yeah it wasn’t great. She has some work to do to recover her character.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 3, 2024 at 5:33 PM
I didn’t mind this since he had no business drinking outdoors knowing very well his limit was 1 beer!!
If not for her if would be sleeping on the road or convenience store. May be she shouldn’t have bothered bringing him home in the first place.
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5 Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 2, 2024 at 12:06 PM
Once again I seem to be watching a different show from the one other people are seeing. I loved the first couple of weeks. Not gonna lie, these two looooong episodes - especially 6 - were a letdown. There were too many long, stilted dialogues and some surprisingly crappy acting from the main cast. In the seemingly pointless drinking scene with HS and the construction (?) workers, his conversation with Dan-ho, and Dan-ho’s scenes with his daughter, all I saw was actors reading lines. I usually like Seo Ji-hye, but her pushy, manipulative character is unpleasant for me to watch and brings out the worst in the leads. I groaned when I saw Mo-eum eavesdropping - so unnecessary. Also, whoever put Jung Hae-in in that too-small denim jacket that makes him look like a high school dork should be required to reflect on their shortcomings and hand-write a letter of apology.
On the positive side, Jo Han-chul really gets to shine, and so do the child actors - especially the two little girls. And the guest appearance from Kim Hyun-mok is delightful, even if he’s a baddie (and yes, instantly knew it was a con). I’ll stick with it and hope for more of the parents and more Lee Seung-hyub and
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 2, 2024 at 12:08 PM
*SH, not HS.
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hacja
September 2, 2024 at 12:17 PM
That too small denim jacket was definitely on purpose, because in this show, he is a high school dork!
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
September 2, 2024 at 3:31 PM
It's funny, because I like Jo Han-chul and his character, but I almost felt sick when he "cried" for a long time, saying sad sounds and drying his dry eyes. He only needed to say "Boo. Hoo. Sob. Sob." for it to go from cringely unrealistisc to impressive ironic performance art.
I also didn't need the "speak out the moral"-scene where the obvious point that she loved him a whole lot more than she showed (Because her love language seems to be shouting and belittling) and that "we are family, and families do so and so".
All those words were really, really unnessecary, and most definitely did not improve the episode. And the same can be said for his many non-tears.
The mistress-turning-out-to -just-be-him trying-to-hide-he-is-being-blackmailed story was fine, and a reconciliation scene showing that there is love under the shouting is fine, if it had been half as long and had not involved any of those dry tears, nor any sentimental moralistic speech.
I'm going to stay with the drama, but I hope there won't be any speeches next week. And if there are "tears" I hope it will be done with just a three second clip og someone drying their eyes, not a whole scene of drying a dry face.
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Britney
September 2, 2024 at 3:55 PM
I wouldn't say "unnecessary" because in character/in universe, he needed to hear those words from her since she was constantly saying or insinuating what a disappointment he is/was.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
September 3, 2024 at 10:39 AM
Then again, it's totally out of character for her to make a little speech, chatGPT Hallmark-style.
If instead she just for a few seconds lost that hard stare and looked genuinely in love, and we saw him see and perceive it, and then her flusteredly picking her stiffness, saying "coel" or that "Then, so ... " thing they say, taking his hand and aiming out the door ... "Come!"
That would have made sense for her character, and wouldn't have been cringey.
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Britney
September 4, 2024 at 12:08 AM
True; the way the scene played out felt kinda weird and possibly over the top. Personally, I didn't even like it because it felt off to me considering how she constantly was saying or insinuating how he was a subpar head of household (though honestly, she seems WAY more like the head but I digress)
I just thought his character needed to hear that despite his shortcomings, he's still a valuable and supported member of the family.
empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:51 PM
Re: "I also didn't need the "speak out the moral"-scene where the obvious point that she loved him a whole lot more than she showed"
I tell ya, their narrative crime this week is "tell don't show". Very heavy handed
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ginkoVal
September 3, 2024 at 3:37 AM
I'm with you two on this, the "speak out moral scene" was poorly handled and awkwardly acted. I can't believe two experienced actors like Jo Han-chul and Park Ji-young made me cringe in that scene. It’s definitely the writing. I love Seok-ryu's parents (both the characters and the actors), but I just couldn’t get into them in that moment. The writing and acting were just off.
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too_much_tv
September 4, 2024 at 8:38 AM
Well, I agree with you about Jo Han-chul anyway! Also I always marvel at kids who can act, though this show demands mostly comic timing. (Which they deliver. ♥ )
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6 Kafiyah Bello
September 2, 2024 at 12:16 PM
These episodes were particularly slow for me pacing wise. I thought he realized he liked her the episode before. Also his childish treatment of her was not something I cared for. You don't treat someone you like, let a lone a dear friend like that, even if you believe you have an unrequited crush.
I adored the storyline with her dad. He needs to know he is adored and loved, so I am glad they showed it.
As for Seok Ryu, her overeagerness caused that pot to break, she needed scolding for it, not from Seung Hyo though. That being said, I am happy she found her dream. The youtube videos of her cooking were lovely.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
September 2, 2024 at 3:34 PM
"You don't treat someone you like, let a lone a dear friend like that, even if you believe you have an unrequited crush."
True. Even if you actually needed for them to stay away from you (or thought you needed it) then you'd try to find some better way than being super mean and hurtful.
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Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 1:41 PM
I agree. A girl needs to stay away from a man like that. He doesn't know how to handle his emotions so he simply becomes mean. He is terribly immature. And I say this with all the love in my heart for Jung Hae In
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LaurenSophie
September 3, 2024 at 12:41 PM
I completely agree about the pot. "I can do it by myself!" No, girl, you can't. And when people repeatedly tell you to please leave it alone and let someone else deal with it, just listen to them. I like Seok Ryu, but she was incredibly annoying in that scene.
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7 hacja
September 2, 2024 at 12:21 PM
I was not a huge fan of this one from the start, but the flaws of Jung So-min's character are somewhat interesting, and believable. But I was very disappointed that the show, in these episodes, decided to go the whole "ML behaving like a sullen 13 year old around the woman he loves" route. It got to the point that I was relieved when there were scenes in which he didn't appear, he was acting so much like a wet dish rag. The writers, I think to forestall criticism like mine, even had not one, but two characters tell him he was behaving like an immature brat, but this self-awareness unfortunately was not enough to prevent the writers from using the character's morose childhood- trauma-influenced behavior to prolong what I assume--but maybe not--will be a mutual love confession. Of course, the FL's ex still has to appear, and that will take up two more episodes of misunderstandings.
Its a sign of how little I'm feeling this relationship that I don't really care that much if they get together at this point. I hope the show continues to take the leads on little food-related cultural excursions, though. I enjoyed that set of scenes, especially since the ML was off sulking for about half of them.
Meanwhile, the secondary couple, while in every way superior to the secondary couples of Return to Samdalri and Dr. Slump, the two exactly similar dramas of early this year, is not that much more compelling. The ending of that relationship is already clear. They will get together, but she will go off to the South Pole for a couple of years, sending the daughter postcards. Although this will occur right at the end, I will give this show a great deal of credit if those postcards detail the sexual harassment the 2FL is experiencing, as apparently three-quarters of women who are stationed there have experienced, providing the daughter a lesson in real world reality.
(On the Antarctica tragedy, https://theweek.com/crime/antarctica-sexual-harassment provides a sad summary, but since this story has been ongoing for a couple years, you have to wonder why the writers would be so clueless as promoting this plotline of a woman eager to head to the South Pole. That's why I'm hoping there will be this additional, less predictable twist. But I doubt it, since the only thing that wasn't exactly what we've seen before is the ex girlfriend being not obsessively clingy to the ML. But who could, while seeing him behave the way he did these episodes?
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 2, 2024 at 12:28 PM
Moon In the Day also featured a first-responder FL whose dream is to go to Antarctica. It makes even less sense here. Her mom isn't that bad.
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Seon-ha
September 2, 2024 at 12:49 PM
I don't even know what to do with this information. Each sentence brings new horrors to mind.
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Kafiyah Bello
September 2, 2024 at 2:56 PM
Wow, thanks for posting that article. That is insanity. What is wrong with some men? SMH.
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hacja
September 2, 2024 at 5:09 PM
As I've often said, there are a lot of times when I'm not proud of my gender. That's why I'm harping on some of these kdrama men. Come on, Seung-hyo, shape up! I need a role model!
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Kafiyah Bello
September 3, 2024 at 5:46 AM
lol.
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Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 1:46 PM
"But I was very disappointed that the show, in these episodes, decided to go the whole "ML behaving like a sullen 13 year old around the woman he loves" route."
God, me too. Doess it even make any sense?? Writers, do you want me to really hate the ML? It's toxic behaviour, right there.
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8 bunnylita
September 2, 2024 at 12:34 PM
Seunghyo really made me angry this week. If he's not ready to confess, that's okay. It's not okay for him to act the way he did in these episodes. Seokryu didn't know what he'd overheard or how he was feeling. She had to figure out for herself why her oldest friend was snapping at her for no reason and avoiding her. When they bicker, they're on an even playing field, but they weren't this week. This is an issue I had with Hometown Cha Cha Cha, which has the same writer, and I I really do not want it to continue because I really like this show. Also, Seunghyo was gone for a long period during episode five and I did not miss him.
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Relisher
September 2, 2024 at 5:03 PM
I had to give up on Hometown Cha Cha after a few episodes because I found the ML so condescending and obnoxious at the FL. Unlike that, I loved the main leads' dynamic in this one because they had such a lifelong foundation of friendship and closeness that even when being juvenile, their obnoxiousness aimed at each other was fun and banter-y, born out of knowing each other and pushing each other's buttons but always with a level of trust and closeness. This week the mutual dynamic was just not there because the ML was written as such a cliched man taking out his frustrations about his feelings on her in the rudest way. I hope they stop it and get back to what made the two together spark for me so well from the start, even when the other writing bits flagged sometimes.
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9 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 2, 2024 at 12:35 PM
I was wondering what was wrong with this show then I saw it's the same director of The King of Eternal Boredom and Confusion and now everything makes sense.
I can't believe this is a 80 minutes dramas. With what right?
Episode 5
(1) The entire episode was the leads being forced together into situations, to what the ML responded with screaming at Seok Ryu. After a little screaming they added sudden awkward moments that are supposed to be romantic/swoon-worthy.
And then they cut out about 50% of the characters in the show, to add another one.
Thankfully, the ex is waaaay better than the ML. Her kindness towards Seok Ryu saved the episode. I liked those final 15min where SH was nowhere to be found.
Episode 6
(2) This episode was better since in the middle of it they removed the ML again (thank you), and gave the parents more spotlight.
Now, the problem with that is, again, what this show does best: cook so fast the food burns when it's still raw inside.
I loved the scene of the dad crying on the street and Seok Ryu being there for him. I liked seeing and hearing his POV, yes. But why did they had to resolve the whole thing in 15 minutes?
I wish we would have seen him work in episode 5 (and 1, 2, 3, 4). I wish that after telling his wife to not scold him, we had a little more scenes of reflection from her part. I wish we had seen maybe little moments of change in mom, with the past of time. Something a little more subtle and smooth.
But everything happened so fast as if they had to end that storyline this week or else mom going to hit the drums.
Same for Seok Ryu and SH's moments with dad. WHY do they cut their conversations so awkwardly? We could've seen Seok Ryu giver her dad his shoes, a hug, and take him back home. But no, they just keep cutting those bonding scenes. Ugh. I also thought the drinking scene between SH and dad was going to be some sweet, heartwarming and deep moment. But nop, another skip for the team.
(2) Another victim of the awful burnt but raw pacing is Seok Ryu's dream. Because they keep making her storyline about some annoying guy I know, her search for a dream feels so empty.
Of course the first dish she makes is about him. Of course we don't even get to see her cooking. 🙄 I wish that instead we got more scenes like the one where she cooks for the ML's ex and his team. And of course, she should be having more scenes with her dad and at the cooking class. Stop spending her entire screentime in getting yelled by that guy.
(3) Talking about that annoying man.
The way he was trying to gaslit her into thinking she was childish and stuck in the past for wanting her best friend, who had been "supporting" her so far, to be happy for her and celebrate with her and keep rooting for her?
The way he made her feel weird and bad about giving him the first dish she made?
The way he acted as if she didn't matter for the entire episode? The way he treated her like trash and tried to...
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 2, 2024 at 12:38 PM
The way he acted as if she didn't matter for the entire episode? The way he treated her like trash and tried to convince her she was the one attacking him or something? F this guy. He pretty much called her immature, obsessive, delusional and told her their friendship is over.
Ha. By the way he treated her and the way he mentioned that he felt nauseous and dizzy in the past because of his hidden feelings and stuff, instead of dating, I would recommend this guy some therapy. He needs to get his shirt together and learn how to deal with his obsessive feelings so he doesn't hurt himself and others.
It's extremely sad how this guy skipped his "friend's" celebration to go drink alone, and what the drama decides to show is the annoying guy and not Seok Ryu being showered with love by the only real friend she has. Sigh.
I really like Seok Ryu, and most of the characters—even if they feel pointless and unnecessary most of the time—, so I won't stop... I think... Who knows.
I need something to watch until Iron Family starts.
PS. Mo Eum needs to learn how to ask "what happened?" before jumping to conclusions.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
September 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM
"PS. Mo Eum needs to learn how to ask "what happened?" before jumping to conclusions."
- Yes, and if people won't tell her, or if they do ... in both cases not react by hitting them, screaming at them, threatening them on their lives, and then ignoring them and e.g. not giving them food when everybody is eating.
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:48 PM
That was such an apt analogy!
"Burnt but raw" - what a narrative paradox but true
Yes - more cooking scenes pls
Yes - I LURVE those subversion tropes where the ex-gf gets on like a house on fire with the current gf/or love interest and suddenly the ML becomes the third-wheel 🤣
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 2, 2024 at 10:27 PM
The ex was a nice addition.
When she first appeared I was like "why do we need more characters?". However, by the end of the episode I was like "why do we need HIM?" She saved episode 5, imo.
I really liked how nice she was to Seok Ryu, and how she told him to stop acting childsh. I wouldn't mind more of her (and Seok Ryu) and less of him.
The SLs in Hagwon/Graduation and Welcome to Sam Dal-ri made it very clear that 30-something years old men who act like they're 10 and blame their emotions on the girl who's just trying to live her life, should be the third-wheel.
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10 kay4625
September 2, 2024 at 12:41 PM
After last week's disappointment, the only thing this show still had going for it was the romance, so of course that went downhill this week. Seung-hyo acted like an immature & annoying child this week, and I hated it. Also, I know this is nitpicking, but if you really need to have a scene in which he falls on top of her on the bed, can you at least make sure her hand placement doesn't change with every camera angle? Because once you see that, you can't unsee it.
Now, for what might be my biggest problem with this show: the episodes are way too long. If your storyline is this basic, and you don't really have anything else to offer, that's fine, but why are your episodes 80 minutes long? Because this way, the interesting stuff is either few and far between, or simply dragged out for too long, becoming less interesting in the process. The show sadly borders on being boring at certain moments, and in my opinion, that's one of the worst things a show can be. Episode 5 was a slog to get through: overly long, with simply not enough to offer.
Episode 6, however, was actually good, maybe even great The only weakpoint was the main romance, but that wasn't a huge focus. The dad storyline was great. It's interesting, hits the right emotional notes, manages to be funny too, and it makes me care about these characters. I love it, give me more of this kind of stuff! It's exactly what I think this show has been lacking.
More positive stuff: the second leads were back to being great this week, with less child-like banter, and more mature & interesting situations. The kid being Dan-ho's daughter is totally unsurprising, but it's a welcome twist that works, making an already interesting and likeable character even more interesting, and adding a new dynamic to his romance with Mo-eum. I can't wait to see where this goes.
Also, I've seen a lot of actors struggle with speaking even one line of English, but Jung So-min somehow manages to make an entire English conversation sound convincing. It's not perfect, but it's still pretty good I think.
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11 imzadi
September 2, 2024 at 1:36 PM
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12 imzadi
September 2, 2024 at 1:38 PM
I guess I am one of the few who is loving this show? I loved the last two episodes. It just hitting the right buttons for me and I was almost holding my breath at the last scene.
And my heart hurt so much for her father when he spilled what happened and how his wife made him feel.
Kudos to the beanie who called it last week, that her dream would be cooking.
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i see castles
September 2, 2024 at 1:47 PM
we will have to cling together <33
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imzadi
September 2, 2024 at 1:56 PM
At least we have each other.
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starandsky
September 2, 2024 at 7:35 PM
You're not the only one! I also enjoy the show 😊
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ginkoVal
September 3, 2024 at 3:41 AM
I still enjoy the show, there are moments I love, and then there are times when I just can't understand what the writer is thinking, which sometimes leads to awkward acting from the cast. While I don't love it as much as I did in the first two weeks, I'm planning to stick with it and hopefully watch until the end.
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PYC
September 3, 2024 at 1:29 PM
I love this show too!
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13 lillamy
September 2, 2024 at 1:54 PM
While I do like the bickering, I felt Seong-gyo's regression to 12 years-old was way over the line in his adamant and childish effort to push Seok-ryu away.
The second leads I can't even begin to care about. Their bickering doesn't make sense and Mo-eum was way outta her league shaming him for leaving his child in the hospital. In her profession, she should know things are not always what they seem and I found her behaviour very unprofessional.
Jo Han-chul is the hero of these episodes, I am always amazed at his range.
And I HATE the random violence. What's with all the hitting?!
Hitting children is explicitly forbidden in my country and seeing adult children put up with being hit is completely beyond me. And Seok-ryu being away for ten years in USA (where hitting isn't norm, right?) still emulating her mother's behaviour. If she ain't getting chastised for this, the show can throw dozens of shirtless scenes at me and still don't deserve the bean come December.
Seeing how this rant may start you questioning why I stick with the show, I'd like to clarify it's the slow-burn and Thom Browne.
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September 2, 2024 at 3:51 PM
I think even in the States, cultures can be very different when it comes to "punishment"/domestic violence. Apart from some people proudly confessing to hitting their children (that Glenn Beck guy, for example) I once met a young Chinese-American woman who explained to me how she was kept down at home and didn't dare speak her mind there, and how it affected her in other situations ... though she explained in such a charming, self-ironic and fun way that I still can't think of it without giggling.
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lillamy
September 2, 2024 at 9:48 PM
We have this old cartoon figure, Bamse, from the sixties who is the strongest bear in the world. And as such, he is also the kindest bear in the world because, as he often says - No one becomes nice from a beating. He is a bit ahead of his time as the law forbidding violence against children wasn't passed in Sweden until 1979.
Of course, the issue of culture is present here also but at least there is protection to be had for the children when it is found out at school or a hospital or even reported by a neighbour seeing as the parents risk loosing custody if they keep beating the children.
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14 Ziziboice
September 2, 2024 at 2:00 PM
I think I am the only one who feels for seunghyo, tbh seok ryu is so annoying and nosy and doesn't know anything about privacy, and she is acting dumb and cornering ML emotionally left and right. He clearly said he needs his privacy but she is just acting like a 5 y/o trying to get what she wants all the time. I can't believe she didn't feel anything ab his feelings all these years and even after reading his letter doing just what she did in the past, girl you either like him or you don't but you know he has feelings for you, in both cases you are not acting good, pretending that nothing happened and you are still little kids doesn't work.
Actually ML is acting like a teenager too, but i see everyone just talking ab him being immature and forget ab FL, so i thought maybe i should talk ab how i feel ab FL character instead.
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Blue (@mayhemf)
September 2, 2024 at 2:14 PM
At this point, they both need to take a break from each other. It would do them both good.
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Ziziboice
September 2, 2024 at 11:13 PM
Exactly, they should think about how they really feel ab each other and what they want from this relationship from now on, but FL doesn't accept a moment of separation, now that she is back to korea everyone should leave their life behind and just support her emotionally all the time, at least she thinks ML should do that. And ML sulking and shouting doesn't help at all.
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15 Nefret
September 2, 2024 at 2:08 PM
I really like the pace and hope they keep it up over the next weeks.
Not that I want to excuse ML's behaviour, but I can at least partially understand it, as I was in a similar situation myself (albeit with a completely different background), which was very stressful for me, but I couldn't tell my family about it. As a result, I quickly became irritable. I found myself quite obnoxious and knew that I was behaving unfairly. Fortunately, I was able to clear it up a little later and apologise.
In addition, ML's fear that the friendship could be damaged if he confesses his feelings but they are not reciprocated is not entirely unjustified. I've also experienced this myself; the friendship never went back to the way it was before because my friend kept getting his hopes up as soon as I thought we could be as casual with each other as before.
To cut a long story short: I can empathise with ML very well.
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sal
September 2, 2024 at 3:04 PM
Totally nile on the head why he is reacting the way he those. I also feel for him. Beside they both falling into their childhood enemy/friends dynamic that they knows when they are together, so turning this into a mature adult form gonna need some changes and growing pain.
I actually like this very human reaction he have that make him more human well rounded character. I think also seeing his interaction with his parents gives another reason for his behavior as clearly he is used to hide his feelings and have no tools to express himself, so he turn passive aggressive as a coping mechanism.
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16 Mr Everything
September 2, 2024 at 2:44 PM
@missvictrix Your review almost had me put this show back on my watch list, until I read all the comments. Thank you for your hard work.
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pineapplegongzhu
September 2, 2024 at 3:11 PM
@mreverything: I'd suggest still giving it a try. Reviews are still subjective. I rather liked these two episodes, a lot more cohesive than episodes 3-4. The writing (or possibly editing) is still a little uneven, but the character arcs and emotional beats are much better. :) Just my two cents.
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alasecond
September 2, 2024 at 4:32 PM
uhmm.. show is quite bad.. 6 episodes in and it continues to dip.. long ep, boring dialogues, full of fillers, and obvious acting thrown into your face
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Becky
September 2, 2024 at 5:15 PM
Uhmm... it's okay that some of us like this drama.
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alasecond
September 2, 2024 at 5:39 PM
Uhmm... and it is equally okay that most of us do not like this drama
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bunnylita
September 2, 2024 at 5:25 PM
I like this show. It was just this week that didn't work for me. Try it for yourself and see what you think.
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bong-soo
September 2, 2024 at 6:56 PM
After reading the comments I don’t know if I will continue with LND (having watched through episode 4). I am not sure I can take another 16 episode tvN romantic drama with tvN length episodes. QUEEN OF TEARS ultimately became a plod.
Little Channel A’s CINDERELLA AT 2AM with 10 episodes coming in at 60 minutes each will suffice for me now for romance.
The leads are pleasantly engaging while the office teammates are super annoying but with the introduction of a couple of characters in episode 4 I hope it settles into an enjoyable watch.
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vienibenmio
September 3, 2024 at 8:41 AM
After learning this drama has 80-90 min eps, I'm glad I dropped it. Queen of Tears I got burnt out because of the ep lengths, and I was far more immersed in that story.
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 10:20 PM
Hey, if you can survive Miss Night and Day, you can definitely watch LND with no trauma lol
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PYC
September 3, 2024 at 1:32 PM
Ep 5-6 are the best so far with the drama settling in with better pacing and plot on track. Still uneven but much improvement.
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17 pineapplegongzhu
September 2, 2024 at 3:09 PM
Thanks, @missvictrix for the recap!
Does anyone know who the child actress is who plays 8 year old Seok-Ryu? I'm fangirling her because she's great. She makes the core of adult Seok-Ryu's feelings and actions very believable because she reflects them in miniature form so well.
I'd be interested in hearing what @joanna says about the motif of sky/earth. What I found interesting is that the ex-gf (Tae-Hee) makes earthenware (onggi) used for storage (perhaps somewhat similar to Seung-Hyo's architectural fascinations with tombs, another type of 'storage'). I wondered if the reason Tae-Hee and Seok-Ryu got along so well is because they are also opposites, Tae-Hee is earth (just like Seung-Hyo) and Seok-Ryu continues to be sky. This may also explain why Tae-Hee felt that Seung-Hyo's passion for her wasn't as smoldering as hers was for him. She may have liked the sameness between them, but he is looking for a complementary opposite. I felt there was a hint at the sky-earth motif again when Seok-Ryu found the soy sauce onggi and was able to see the moon in its reflection - connecting the two together, containing the sky in the jar, but framing it rather than stifling it.
I seem to be in the minority in enjoying these two episodes. I suspect that the drama is trying to encapsulate a lot of redemptive arcs for our characters. I mean, how long can a childhood friends-to-lovers arc really run before it gets boring? There are only so many iterations and false starts (and restarts) before it gets boring.
Episode 6 seemed more cohesive than Episode 5, but Episode 5 was necessary to set up Seok-Ryu finding her dream. I liked Dad's redemptive arc in Episode 6, and especially how the tension between Mom and Dad was resolved. The drama isn't trying to paint Mom as the villain. Sure, she's got a rage problem; sure, she makes mistakes, but she makes good comebacks too - comforting and reassuring her husband that it's going to be the two of them forever.
I also wonder if the reason Seung-Hyo hesitates to show Seok-Ryu his feelings is because she is somewhat like his mother. I know that may sound strange, but his mom is also someone who defies traditional boundaries. Her character embodies all sort of foreign-ness - writing in French, her clothes, even her breakfast. Seung-Hyo's father is so traditionally Korean and she is so not. They are also opposites, but opposites which cannot connect.
I'm sure we all knew that Episode's 6 title was going to change from "Your first" to "Your first love". But, I loved the ride through it, especially the flashbacks of Seok-Ryu and Seung-Hyo's relationship at different stages. I found it convincing that they DO know each other very well, but I loved how Seok-Ryu realized in the end that the one thing she didn't know is the one thing she's at the center of.
Also, Mo-eun must be the most patient and persistent wing-woman ever for Seung-hyo. HAHA!
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alasecond
September 2, 2024 at 4:28 PM
hmm.. i thought ML's mom has a cheating history which was hinted at and the real reason for the weak family fabric..
now she may not have fully cheated but maybe did deviate even if in her thoughts
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:40 PM
+1
I also thought Show hinted at mom's cheating - on 2 counts:
(i) she went to the temple and made a wish (in French): "I wish my son would forget what he saw and be reconciled to me."
(ii) When SH saw SR's dad wrapped up with a drunk woman -- it cuts straight to his childhood flashback running after his mom who got into a car with a strange man.
SH later confronted the dad in an understated manner but the subtext is rather clear to viewers (he wants to verify his suspicions if this is an affair).
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Digression but related:
I actually like how Show is starting to show us glimpses of the various characters reacting out of their childhood baggage and life history (which hopefully will open up narrative possibilities of redemption and growth arcs all round)
Mo-eum: To me, it is less about self-righteous anger and more about her feeling triggered when she construes it as a case of parental negligence. It has come out in bits that Mo-eum was also a latchkey kid, brought up singlehandedly by a widow mom. So she must have resonated with the situation of the crop-circle kid and over-reacted.
Ditto with SH: Given his family backstory of a possible infidelity I think all hell will break loose when he finds out SR's fiancé cheated on her. All her friends and family are indignant, but his will be EXTRA. 🤣
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alasecond
September 3, 2024 at 1:22 AM
3. When ajumma's were talking about potential cheating of FL's dad to FL's mom, ML's mom spat water as soon as she heard cheating
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pineapplegongzhu
September 8, 2024 at 2:01 PM
@joanna and @alasecond:
Yeah, the purpose of my comment was more speculating how far the sky/earth motif would run/hold true for the drama characters as a whole rather than just our OTP.
Although it was obvious that Seung-Hyo's mother committed adultery (or has somehow broken faith with her family), Seung-Hyo has dated other women. So, the reason he hesitates to date Seok-Ryu can't be just "Seung-Hyo is so traumatised by his mother's infidelity that he can't have any romantic relationship", because that's blatantly not true. I could see the argument that Seung-Hyo didn't have a strong and loving family unit, but because he has that with Seok-Ryu's family he can't afford to gamble it away should things not work out with Seok-Ryu romantically. Like, that would make sense and work within our narrative.
But, given that Tae-Hee also embodies (in a modified form) the 'earth motif', it looks as though our writer is consciously weaving the thread past our OTP. Maybe that's only as far as it will go. Maybe the prosaic "mom cheated so son is wary of romantic relationships" is the only reason, and that's fine. I just think it would make a richer story, though, if the sky/earth motif did run a bit wider amongst our characters.
Like, if Tae-Hee really embodies a form of "earth" I have to wonder if Seok-Ryu's ex-fiancé will embody a form of "sky".
But, this is all speculation.
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 10:15 PM
Yes, I think your observations are spot-on and consistent with the Taoist theme/architectural principle of "earth is square & sky is round" / "yin-yang chaos" in first week.
To add on to your insights:
1) Earth parallel & contrast: Yes, Tae-hee and SH are both "earth" element, YET they are not the same.
(a) Earthenware & Tombs are both storage vessels BUT the similarity ends here. Ultimately, one is dead the other is not only alive but fermenting and evolving.
(b) The longer a corpse is encased in a tomb, the more decayed it gets. The longer you ferment your soy sauce or bean paste the more flavorful it gets. (hence their hunt for the "Holy Grail" - not a 100-day old soy sauce, but a 100-year old soy sauce).
(c) Also, a tomb lets nothing in (you had better make sure it's hermetically sealed) but for earthenware like onggi it is precisely its porosity and permeability (the right amount) that facilitates the fermentation process and gives it the optimal flavour of ripeness. It lets life in.
So to me, Tae-Hee is very interesting as a character and archetype -- she is the midpoint / amalgam between the square earth of SH and the round sky of SR.
Thus, she performs the narrative function of a go-between and dictionary translation between the estranged childhood mates cos she actually can see from both POVs.
Why?
1) Cos Onggi are used mainly for 2 things: (a) tableware (inside a house, a structure) and as (b) storage vessels (outside a house.
Note: all the bean paste/soy sauce containers are in the garden out under the sky - no structure over them). This signals her affinity to the round sky (SR) as well, hence her chemistry with SR. Also, the onggi whilst made of earth clay, are all round/curve in shape, not square (like the office space of SH).
If SH plays his cards right (and evolves as a square earth character) the length of time his love has been fermenting in his jar should work to his advantage, and NOT against him (as it currently is). It shouldn't expire, it should get to become so dark, so rich, so ripe that when it captures the reflection of the bright moon -- all SR sees is "how much that sparkles." He truly can bring out the sparkle in her cos he's always her quiet pillar of support (he just needs to stop his nonsense and grow up)
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Ziziboice
September 2, 2024 at 11:18 PM
The child actress is great 👍
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18 Britney
September 2, 2024 at 4:09 PM
I don't know what's worse: someone pining over the best friend they're secretly in love with or being a jerk because they're secretly in love. Ugh, they're both so utterly unappealing to me. It was like he was bad at her for him not knowing what to do about his feelings and her not knowing his feelings.
Another thing that took me out of the story is why is the daughter 5 when the actress does not look 5? Why didn't they just age up the character when they cast the actress? Sickly and cute daughter still works at age 7.
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FiyaShady
September 5, 2024 at 8:34 AM
Right? What's wrong being honest and confess the feeling? If they are afraid of losing their friendship, at least be honest about your own feeling. That will let go huge burden in your heart. Being ackward after that is totally fine. The ML already "drowing" and his confession about him being dizzy and nausea are not good tho (at least for his mental health).
Another things that I hate in this week is FL parents. What is wrong for being honest? 🤦🏻♀️... just tell your partner everything! Don't you already sworn to go high and low when you binded yourself in marriage vow? Gosh, way too much frustration with them. And I can see why FL did not know how to release her self based on their parent's life. Holding on too much pride rather than finding solutions altogether was totally wrong!
Now am dragging myself to finish another Jung Hae-In. I never finish any of his work so far as ML. Gosh, my head is full of k-slump now. And all other dramas that interesting isn't in Netflix as well 😖
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19 Relisher
September 2, 2024 at 4:47 PM
This show has some moments that I'm absolutely in love with, and some moments that come from the laziest, cliched drama writing styles. I'm watching and invested because the good bits are so much fun, but it's unfortunate that the quality isn't consistent.
One of the best parts are the little versions of Seok Ryu and Seung Ho, those two are the cutest little things, and all the flashbacks so far have been perfect. I especially love how wonderfully matched tiny Seok Ryu and big Seok Ryu are with their mischievous faces. Jung So Min is really trully keeping this up for me, she has the ups and downs perfectly done and while some of the writing was meh, she's been powering through it amazingly. Haein got a worse deal this week, I have no patience for whiny, rude MLs who take their sadness out as anger on their FLs, and while Seung Hyo was within his rights to try and draw a boundary between them to protect himself, he was incredibly rude and mean multiple times, and him secretly looking up what she was getting into and helping her father does not make it better. I liked it when they bantered and were mutually rude in a playful way, but he was genuinely rude and mean, and and I hope the tantrums will stop with this week.
I thought the glimpses of single dad Dan Ho was very sweet and gave him an interesting facet. Mo Eum berating him without knowing how or why his kid was alone at home right then was weird, but it did result in the little girl scolding her and then Mo Eum trying hard to figure out how to get back in her good graces, and that was cute. I do enjoy Mo Eum overall, her character is a go getter and fun, but they need to fix the interactions before the inevitable coupling, bcs both of them are more entertaining on their own so far.
The dad storyline was moving and I'm glad he got some catharsis, but I wish they'd made the mom less violent and mean. There are ways to show someone overwhelmed with debt and money concerns and a husband and daughter who are doing things that she's confused by, but Park Ji Young is a great actress and can definitely show it more subtly without her character actions being violence and bitterness right away.
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20 parkchuna 🍉
September 2, 2024 at 4:57 PM
You know a RomCom is in Danger Zone when you’re questioning the likability of the ML because
1. he’s always yelling at the FL
2. He may be even more annoying than the 2FL (gasp!)
3. They’re hardly on screen together, despite the long run-time
Pull back Show, you’re heading to the Cliff of Doom here! But wait.. is this the circa 2010
Tsundere lead i said i missed? But..but.. something’s off here.. maybe i like nice guys after all. Ok Show, bring back starry eyed Choisseung and i (and prolly Seok ryu) will forgive you.
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21 starandsky
September 2, 2024 at 7:31 PM
I enjoy this drama for its light story and excellent performance by the leads. It is entertaining and exactly what I need at this moment; just a light fluffly romcom that make me look forward to pass through the week.
Hope it will keep entertaining to the end!
The drama also cements my love for Jung Hae-in 🫶🏼
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22 panshel
September 2, 2024 at 7:35 PM
I'm disappointed this week that the show is not going the way I expected it to.
This is what happens when one friend catches feelings -- you'll end up losing the friendship because you can't go back to the way things were before. It's not Seok-ryu's fault that Seung-hyo likes her, yet she's the one being punished for it. She's losing her best friend because he can't even hang out with her like a normal person anymore, and she's unfairly on the receiving end of his rage because he can't handle his own feelings.
I’m so disappointed that Seok-ryu found out about Seung-hyo's crush by reading his time capsule letter, since I wanted her to realize by herself that he's liked her all along. It was cute how he visited her in college intending to confess, but she already had a boyfriend, so it doesn't look like Seok-ryu has ever liked Seung-hyo disappointingly. Ex-girlfriend Tae-hee was just a rebound. He only went out with her because she asked him.
I’m disappointed in the second leads' romance because all their interactions revolve around Dan-ho's daughter, as if they'll only like each other because they like how each other is with, with his daughter. Mo-eum's obsession with Yeon-do feels forced ever since she first met crop circle girl in the park. I was so glad when Dan-ho answered Mo-eum can play with Yeon-do as long as Yeon-do agrees.
Seung-hyo was so cool exposing the scammers, especially the moment he revealed he owned the same watch, but I still can't understand how Seok-ryu's "poor" family can live next door to his rich one. Is it because Seung-hyo's an architect because the insides of their houses look soo different? Oh, his mom's a cheater? If it's not a misunderstanding, then that's unforgivable.
I knew Episode 5's title change would be "고백 (gobaek) - Confession." I bet Seung-hyo watched Seok-ryu's cooking vlog when she was in the U.S. It's nice to hear that the show won @missvictrix over this week.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
September 30, 2024 at 5:11 AM
Reply 1997 came to mind with your comments about wishing FL would realize on her own that ML had a crush. Hard to remember exactly....seems that in Reply 1997, there were 14 episodes of female lead sorta knowing ML, Seo In-Guk character, liked her though he couldn't confess his feelings. She just went on with her life and dated someone else because he couldn't confess. It appears that is what SR did.
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23 Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
September 2, 2024 at 7:46 PM
I think I'm that rare animal that's still loving this show... It's head-scratching that way worse shows get far more love, but that's okay, more for meee!
And for those few others like myself, please join me in a tight huddle while others go past on the other side of the glass, pointing and jeering 😂
I do agree that ep 5 felt random and way too slow, but those small payoff moments that finally came together in ep 6, made every second of ennui so worth it. I actually don't have a problem with SH's angsty behaviour, lord knows I've seen enough adult-children in my life, to understand that people do behave like this. Communication doesn't come easy to everyone, and sometimes lashing out or keeping a distance is fall-back behaviour - it's happened to me too, with guys I've unknowingly friendzoned. Our easy friendship was never quite the same after, and it was only time passing, years even, that brought it back. I just hope he doesn't carry on any longer, because if that's how he plans to keep the friendship going without a confession, whatever the result, good luck to him. The reappearance of the jealousy trope should hopefully spur him on, as they always do.
I also really like how they bring in the moments that everyone wondered about and turn them around- this week's being ML being late off the starting blocks but still winning, and if course the off-hand food and cooking vlog mentions that came full-circle for her. So well done!!
I still, and will always, have a problem with the hitting, though. If the genders were reversed, it would be labelled as domestic violence, which is what this is anyway. It's no wonder her father couldn't confide in his wife, and I felt so bad for him that even after he confessed, her go-to was her fists. And I FFed through the scene of FL hitting her (brother/ML) to wake him up. Unacceptable behaviour, that I hope Seung Ryu will not continue with her own family.
Also, can I say, Kdramas find the best child actors ever!! The 2 kids are absolutely freaking adorable and I love their scenes so much.
This has turned into a perfect watch for me, because I love the over-arching themes, and it's the only reason I wait for weekends now!
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Procrasti-NationFirstCitizen
September 2, 2024 at 8:06 PM
Just to clarify, understanding bad behaviour doesn't mean I excuse it! I meant that emotionally suppressed people don't often know how to say the words. That lack of skill often comes out in a toxic manner, and if that isn't addressed soon, it can lead to a whole host of relationship issues. I've lived through it, and so I hope, for the fictional characters in the story, that he learns to express himself more maturely.
All Kdrama characters bar none, need heaps of therapy, but in a way, it's therapy for us too, because we see the cause and effect, and maybe reflect, that's not how it's supposed to be. Now how to get the people that need this, to sit down and watch? 😉
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:19 PM
I wrote about how SH was a comeback kid in the swim meet sequence cos he leapt off the block almost a full second after all his competitors BUT came from behind to win by closing the distance from 6th in position (at the first lap) to 1st in position (on the return lap).
So if LND wants to go meta on us, our ML will be a late starter-slow-bloomer loser all the way until Ep 8 (mid-way) in parallel to his swim lap, then close the gap in the return lap (Eps 9-16) to win the game (and the girl).
I look forward to the appearance of ex-fiancé next week lol
#plotcatalyst
#fireonyourass
#dosomethingSH!
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starandsky
September 2, 2024 at 9:27 PM
You're definitely not alone! I enjoy the show as well 😊 The show is entertaining enough to keep me wait for weekends!
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bunnylita
September 3, 2024 at 6:35 AM
Despite not looking Seunghyo in this week's episodes I really like this show. I hope he gets it together soon. It's also weird to me that much worse shows get more love. I think people expected a lot more from this show given the cast. It's not fair but it happens all the time.
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24 Unaspirated
September 2, 2024 at 7:53 PM
I love that the ex girlfriend’s family name is Jang and she makes onggis and jangs for a living. I’m sure dramas do this all the time and I just miss it because my Korean is so bad!
I love love the bromance between Seung-hyo and Dan-ho! Their scenes together were some of my favorites and I love that Dan-ho already has a good neighborhood friend like he always wanted! So often we don’t really get to hear a drama ML lay out his feelings and experiences like that, so it was really beautiful and sad to know how Seung-hyo has felt all this time. And I was relieved to find that Dan-ho’s weird possessiveness over drinks and candy was a flicker of last week that has yielded nicely to him being his thoughtful, caring, generous self and a fast friend to those around him. Justice for Yoon Ji-on!
It was really telling that when the onggi broke, it broke partly because Seok-ryu doesn’t really know her limits. I’m glad she’s found what she wants to do, but I hope part of her arc is also realizing that asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness, and that she has many people around her that she can rely on when she needs to. For example: her dongsaeng Dong-jin who literally blotted out the sun when he loomed over the scammer! 😎
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:15 PM
Re: "It was really telling that when the onggi broke, it broke partly because Seok-ryu doesn’t really know her limits."
You made a good observation, not just about not knowing her limits -- in terms of strengths/weaknesses/capabilities, but also in the sense of relationship boundaries (which came to the forefront as the flare point of tension between our childhood BFFs this week)
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25 empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 8:23 PM
Best recap quote of the week: "...And that’s why influencers are not to be trusted, kids."
🤣🤣
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empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 9:02 PM
Best script line this week: "Who plans a joke for 10 years? It's not we are doing economic reforms..." 🤣
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 2, 2024 at 11:35 PM
Yes, that was the line that got me laughing out loud too🤣
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26 empressgirl
September 2, 2024 at 8:57 PM
Highlights for me this week:
✔ Return of kids flashback sequences!:
Said it before in Week 1 and will say it again. The child actor playing Seok-Ryu -- her cuteness quotient is OFF the charts. I predict a great future ahead of her. She lights up my screen whenever she shows up: all chutzpah and spunk and cute -- rolled into one lil furious ball.
✔ Food, glorious food:
Kudos to Beanie who got it right in our highly unscientific Beanie straw poll on SR's dream career! I'm so glad some of us placed bets in that same kitty pot too.
Food plays a central role in this neighbourhood healing drama of families (sorry folks, I am readjusting my expectations down to LOW, so even if the rom tanks, I frankly don't care. As long as everyone is healed and moves on, I am happy. Romantic woes is frankly #firstworldproblems)
✔ "Seung-hyo’s Mr. Darcy-level family problem-solving" 🤣🤣
Well-played, SH. (5 points for that, I am duly impressed. But minus 5 points for appalling treatment of your best friend & childhood love. So, you're back to zero).
✔ More development of supporting characters & side plots: let's be honest, if they focus on our OTP we won't have enough fodder to last 16 eps, I very much would like them to leverage on the strong veteran cast (who are criminally utilised at the moment) and unfold a more richly layered narrative of healing, generational trauma, and second chances. It still has a lot of potential to get this right
✔ Revenge ensemble pieces: If they keep this up, it may well become my new catnip. We got that last week with the Greip story beat, and now we get it this week with the influencers scam sting op. Tis deeply cathartic I must say and one of the funniest scenes for me was seeing SH unceremoniously trying to plug SR's nosebleed with his expensive necktie (all these preceded by handbag hitting and flying kicks etc), whilst she yelps at livid muscle-man kid brother to "defend our family honour and take revenge!" Then cut to Dong-jin breaking his leg and the reaction shot of SH recoiling. Priceless.
Ok, from the bouquets to the brickbats now...I shalt eschew the ones already brought up by other more eloquent Beanies. I just have one gripe though.
✖ The script has gotten very on-the-nose this week (especially Ep 5)
I was actually shocked that Show literally make characters do a Cliff Notes exposition of what they just showed on screen. (major offender: pottery kiln, here's lookin' at ya!) We're Asians, we understand subtext. Thank you very much.
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27 TT
September 2, 2024 at 10:08 PM
Did anyone else catch the reference to Something in the Rain/Pretty Noona who gives me Food, when Seok-ryu was serving food to Seung-hyo and she started to say something like "I am a pretty noona who serves..." and Seung-hyo jumps in and says something like 'don't mess with Son Ye-jin? I thought this was a cute reference.
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DHKatie
September 2, 2024 at 10:42 PM
Oh, thanks for this. The Netflix subtitles I saw tried to do something with the other English title (Something in the Rain) and it made no sense!
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Kurama
September 3, 2024 at 4:52 AM
Something in the Rain was the English title.
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Ziziboice
September 2, 2024 at 11:22 PM
Yes that was one of the brilliant moments of the show
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 2, 2024 at 11:31 PM
Yes, it was a cute reference 🥰
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28 Kurama
September 3, 2024 at 1:00 AM
I love this drama!
SH is trying to deal with his feelings for her. He doesn't want to burden her because she still loves her ex-fiancé. And for that, he needs space but SR is everywhere in his life, behind his bedroom window or at his work (day and night). SH is bad at expressing his feelings but I'm happy he's trying to do it with Dan-oh because his parents are so a bad example. Speaking about parents, I don't like how his father is trying to look pitiful when he eats at home. He knew he married a career woman, so either he cooks himself either they hire someone to make food, they're rich after all. For the mother, I wonder if they implied she was cheating or just leaving for work.
I loved the arc with the ex. First, she was great! I love her house, her job and maturity. She didn't try to make SR feel poorly but at the opposite encouraged her to find her new dream.
For SR, she needs her friend in her life and doesn't want him to move away like when he locked himself in his bedroom in the past. It's why she's so busily barging in this life.
It's interesting he told her they needed to put some limits to keep their privacy and she accepted it a little bit.
Her mother is dragon and it's sad her family is afraid of her. She really needs to take the time to let people to talk to her instead to judge and and punish. It was nice to see everybody on the same side to avenge the father.
There a lot of small moments that I really liked like Pretty Noona's reference, SH's gaze at the end the episode 6, SH's unfazed father at the hospital with the 2 bickering, the tie to the rescue, SR's joy to every moment with food, etc.
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starandsky
September 3, 2024 at 8:55 PM
The tie to the rescue is also my favorite!
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29 petrolia
September 3, 2024 at 1:07 AM
This show has seriously lost me this week.
I could go with it last week, even with the badly written company part, because despite the bad writing it was possible to connect on an emotional level with the FL and what she went through there.
But this week? Both leads have become seriously unlikeable to me. She's pouting all the time or OTT excited or not understanding what people around her are showing with their behaviour, and he's like a grumpy old man. Her becoming a cook was hinted at from a mile away and not convincingly executed (just look at how she handles vegetables when she tries to chop them!). The whole storyline feels like it has been slapped on the story afterwards because they just left it blank in the script until someone would be coming up with a solution. And if you find yourself in a professional cooking class: cover your hair! Don't let it hang openly over your shoulder so that it can cause an incident for real that Dad was scammed with! And don't get me started with that storyline. Why doesn't turn Mom to her drums anymore when she feels the urge to hit someone? Could all these people please stop hitting others and screaming and going uninvitedly through other's drawers?
*catchesbreath*
Sorry but I had to let this out...rant is over now. ;o) I'll drop this show right now, this is just too frustrating to watch. But still interesting to see the range of opinions on this!
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petrolia
September 3, 2024 at 1:10 AM
But what I did enjoy what the ML's ex and the excursion about the onggis and the cooking ahjummas! That could have gone on for a while, it was way more interesting than the actual story at this point.
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empressgirl
September 3, 2024 at 1:32 AM
RE: "And if you find yourself in a professional cooking class: cover your hair! Don't let it hang openly over your shoulder so that it can cause an incident for real that Dad was scammed with!"
THIS! 🤣🤣🤣
same thought in my head, but I guess that would be unsexy to show them all wearing hair-nets for kitchen hygiene lol.
And riffling through drawers unsolicited?
Just because. K-drama land rule #376
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petrolia
September 3, 2024 at 3:01 AM
Her classmates had their hair tucked away, without looking too unsexy. It IS possible. ;o)
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Kurama
September 3, 2024 at 4:30 AM
But she will be the one eating her food :p
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empressgirl
September 3, 2024 at 4:51 AM
Ctrl-Alt-Del Fanfic:
OMG - it will be a scream if she bashfully proffers her very first dish to SH - only to have him pull a very long strand of her hair out of his mouth.
*a beat*
And just like that, his 28-year-long epic crush on her died in that very instant.
Why? Perplexed intelligent readers may ask.
Well, just because 🤣🤣
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P.S. Nah that would never happen.
She sneezed into his face in a very romantic moment in the pool, and that did *nothing* to dent his legacy crush
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ginkoVal
September 3, 2024 at 4:02 AM
Sigh, show is really losing it this week. The messy writing makes me wonder how a talented writer like the one behind HTCCC could drop the ball like this. I actually like Ep5, I love the arc with his ex and the fermented soya sauce making story. But I completely lost interest in Ep6. What was with the hair flowing freely during cooking class? Come on, after the whole drama with the hair in your dad's tteokbokki shop? And don’t even get me started on the scam story or SH drinking with his buddies. What was the point of all that? Plus, 80 minutes per episode?
There are still bits I enjoy and there are moments I love, so I’m sticking with it, hoping it gets better next week when her ex shows up.
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AmnesiaYawns
September 3, 2024 at 4:32 AM
Re: And if you find yourself in a professional cooking class: cover your hair!
Exactly what I said :) Not only can it cause unappetizing accidents, it's also super annoying to have your hair swinging around when you're working in the kitchen. Hair needs to be out of the way when you're chopping things.
Nevermind frying or boiling things.
The "Riffling through the drawers unasked" trope is as bad as the "just standing around the corner and accidentally listening to something one shouldn't hear"-trope, which we also had in these episodes, that's just lazy writing.
But then there's the "ML as an emotional cripple who pushes the one he loves the most away because … because … just because."-trope, which really puts the too much on the trope pizza.
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30 darwi
September 3, 2024 at 4:23 AM
I am the only one finding strange and concerning that Mo Eum wants to be friend with a 5y-old ?
Thanks @missvictrix for this recap that is more ordonned and well paced than the drama.
Though it is not a case-of-the-week drama it does feel like it with Greif last week and Appa's difficulties this week expedited in rapid strokes. Now that we know how it is, let's consider it a feature more than a writing weakness.
Bravo to the beanies who suspected the food dream and the connection between the little girl and Dan Ho. You are very very observant !
Does Seung Hyo avoindance and sulking count as noble idiocy or idiot idiocy ? Even after his helpful ex told him in plain letter, he is still repressing himself. Maybe he needs to overhead a discussion where Seok Ryu says that she wants him to be a lifelong subscriber ?
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Dylan [Suffering from Judge from Hell brainrot]
September 3, 2024 at 6:56 AM
I... to be honest, also found it weird that this grown adult wants to be friends so badly with a random little girl. But we're probably reading too much into something innocuous.
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welh
September 3, 2024 at 8:22 AM
I think Mo-eum's work is hardwired into her personality: her priority is to help people in need as a first responder. She found an alone child in a park and started a conversation to see if she was OK.
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darwi
September 3, 2024 at 9:59 AM
Yes, in Dramaland and between 2FL and daughter of 2ML it is innocuous. But IRL... switch of them genre and the creep factor explode.
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PYC
September 3, 2024 at 1:40 PM
There are two simple reasons for Mo Eum wanting to be friend with a 5-yr old. Firstly, she clicked with her over the crop circle during the first meeting, kind of like seeing her younger self in the younger girl. Then, it’s a sense of guilt in realising how her behaviour in the hospital had upset the girl.
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31 GySgt213
September 3, 2024 at 4:30 AM
Several plotlines I don't care for:
The 10-20-year plotline where one lead can't express how they feel to the other because of..... If you can't express your feelings in that amount of time it is very hard for me to buy you are interested in the first place. You are using missed timing as an excuse.
The he is mean to her because he likes her plotline. These people are in their 30s not kindergarten. This points out to me how emotionally stunted the person is and it's abusive behavior when it involves someone in their 30s. Also, not buying the he's confused about his feelings.
Finally, the inability to set boundaries with the ex who always seems to pop up out of nowhere in K-dramas trying to get back what they gave up. This is very boring when constantly repeated as a plotline and everyone can predict the result.
I am more interested in what's happening in the families than the potential relationships at this point.
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welh
September 3, 2024 at 8:24 AM
I just find it very odd that both the FL and ML did in fact "move on" from any childhood crush/attachment with the FL's engagement and ML's ex-girlfriend. Why would anyone regress to a childhood crush/ non-starter after an adult relationship ends?
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PYC
September 3, 2024 at 1:47 PM
The ML has not moved on - the (ex) girlfriend admitted it was her who’s keen to date him. And it didn’t go the way she wanted.
Even so, the feelings of the ML is deeply ingrained and will be there for life. It’s not a regression but something staying for life whether or not you meet another person or not.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 3, 2024 at 11:41 AM
"You are using missed timing as an excuse."
Plus, you're using not wanting to lose the friendship as an excuse.
Because last time I check, no one wants to be friends with a jerk.
About the ex, I thought the same when she appeared, but her character was considerably the highlight of the episode imo. She is actually the best thing that happened to Seok Ryu this week (so ironic). Also, given that she knows about his feelings for SR, I feel like she's the least of our problems. What I saw in next week's preview is what really worries me.
I'm wondering if we're going to get a dad x Seok Ryu business partnership at the end. I would like to see the development (if miracle happens and this director is capable of getting one thing right), of that storyline.
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GySgt213
September 3, 2024 at 2:05 PM
The episodes are too long and too many. I hope the writer has plans to make this a better watch going forward. I am a fan of every actor in this.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 3, 2024 at 3:41 PM
Yeah. The show is too long. But tbh it feels that long because of the writer's and director's poor skills.
This show had many scenes that felt like a copy and paste of Fight For My Way. A drama that did pretty much the same but way better. 16 episodes didn't feel long.
And the amount of characters and storylines it also feels like a family drama, like Reply 88. That drama also had 80-90min episodes, but they were worth it thanks to the quality of the production.
Meanwhile this show disappears its characters, cuts their interactions if their not the main couple, and it's always rushing to resolve storylines we barely got to hear about.
There are web dramas with 10min per episode that do more than this show in 1h. So yeah, it's pretty much the writer's and director's problem.
I don't think they would do better with less episodes. Our time would be saved, tho.
My hope is that those little moments they get right, keep coming every episode.
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empressgirl
September 3, 2024 at 8:33 PM
Re: "I'm wondering if we're going to get a dad x Seok Ryu business partnership at the end."
Yes - that was in my wish-list post last week!
I am hoping she would synergise her IT know-how with her culinary passion to revitalise their family food business. It's so clear she inherited her dad's talent but the biz is faltering in its present state.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 4, 2024 at 10:43 AM
That would be great.
And maybe uri reporter would write an article about them? 😎
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Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 2:08 PM
"Plus, you're using not wanting to lose the friendship as an excuse.
Because last time I check, no one wants to be friends with a jerk."
Amen to that! You don't want something getting ruined so you prefer ruining it yourself. Get therapy!
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32 GySgt213
September 3, 2024 at 5:05 AM
"The Jerk Next Door" would have been a better title. I would have been better prepared for the ML's obnoxious behavior.
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33 Dylan [Suffering from Judge from Hell brainrot]
September 3, 2024 at 6:53 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, a third "single dad with cute daughter" has hit dramaland...
I wish that Seo Ji-hye was part of the main cast. I love the actress and I love her character on this drama...
I do feel like that the leads should probably stay friends, and I'm more enamoured with the second couple, but overall I'm one of the 5 ppl here who like this drama!
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
September 30, 2024 at 5:20 AM
Fanletter, Please!
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34 welh
September 3, 2024 at 7:51 AM
The worst kept secrets are finally revealed with not much fireworks: Seung-Hyo’s first love and Yeon-Du is Dan-Ho’s daughter.
The “first love” trope is one of the most unimaginative story lines in k-dramas. This one is par for the course. But we learned that Seung-Hyo “could” and did move on by dating Tae-Hui (at first I did not recognize Seo-Ji-Hye). Mo-Eum has known about it for forever, but apparently stayed on the sidelines to let it ferment like century old soy sauce.
Apparently, Seung-Hyo is a better detective than architect, easily taking down youtube blackmailers. Apparently, the overt lesson from the writer is that despite hardships a normal life is a everyone’s dream. Ohhhhh . . . . K?
For another week, the child actors continue to shine. Why doesn’t a network do a show just with child actors instead of the boilerplate adult rom-com situations?
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 3, 2024 at 1:10 PM
We could probably collect enough money to bribe every drama writer in Korea if we announced a GoFundMe for a one-year moratorium on the words "first love."
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Kurama
September 3, 2024 at 1:18 PM
It doesn't bother me in this case because we already know it. They grew up together.
I don't like this trope when the leads met the first time as strangers but suddenly in the middle of the story, they learn they already knew each other as kids. The most of the time, it doesn't bring anything more to their relationship.
I think it's 2 different cases of first love trope.
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PYC
September 3, 2024 at 1:53 PM
Yes, the difference in LND is that they pretty much grow up together with the boy along the way seeing the girl more than a neighbour or chingu friend.
I can’t stand the trope of bumping into someone by incident and dress it as fate or destiny. That is however not the plot of LND.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 3, 2024 at 3:21 PM
It wouldn't bother me as much in this case if it weren't for the overload of "first love" plots across so many current and recent dramas - which isn't necessarily this show's fault, but is also another example of its lack of originality.
I'd still like to see the drama that explores longtime friends' development of new feelings for each other that do NOT turn out to have started years before, but it was obvious very early that this was not going to be that show. I'm mostly enjoying it anyway, but with reduced expectations.
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vienibenmio
September 6, 2024 at 2:22 PM
Right, "they loved each other all along" is so boring to me. Is it so hard to write the actual development of feelings? And lately it seems like it's always ML pining for FL and his feelings don't change, even though they've been apart for years and years and years. Boring.
Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 2:10 PM
"Mo-Eum has known about it for forever, but apparently stayed on the sidelines to let it ferment like century old soy sauce."
LOL, thank you for the good laugh XD
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35 corman
September 3, 2024 at 11:18 AM
I too am one of the few who is really enjoying this show! That does not mean that I am not yelling at the characters while I am watching!!!!! I wanna do that Korean forhead finger snap on some of them. I just can't believe at this point our lead actress has not figured out that he really likes her and the letter was no a joke( forhead finger snap ) Yes, he is being too mean to her ( forehead finger snap) . Looking forward to next week when the ex fiance shows up. This shall be interesting and I am sure I shall be vocal about it while I am watching it. My Korean husband laughs at me ( me= American).
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36 LaurenSophie
September 3, 2024 at 12:34 PM
I'm starting to feel frustrated and disappointed with this show. It's certainly not awful, but it's not nearly as engaging as it seemed it would be at this point in the story. During the first two episodes, I saw chemistry and liked the banter between the leads. Yet since then the chemistry has basically disappeared (these are two beautiful people, but there's no spark between them, imo) and the banter has turned into very juvenile and sometimes borderline mean sibling-like squabbling. Although the ML has been in love with the FL for years, sometimes I question whether or not he even likes her. Also, it pains me to write this as a huge JHI fan, but both his performance and character seem flat. I did like the ex calling out Seung-hyo for his immaturity--I understand him initially feeling sad and even annoyed by the fact that Seok-ryu continues to have feelings for her former fiance, but his extended brutishness about it was extremely unappealing and childish for a man in his 30s.
I guess I'm also finding it hard to believe that if Seok-ryu truly never had romantic or sexual feelings for Seung-hyo (and it seems like that's what the show is saying) that she would develop them now. Seems like that ship sailed long ago for her.
Finally, I was not a fan of Mo-eum yelling at Dan-Ho in the hospital. First, it was the completely wrong time and place for her to do it, but more than that, it really wasn't her place. If the hospital had had concerns about a five year old (who looks at least 10, btw) being left alone in the house, they would have called a social worker and/or the police to question the dad. A paramedic, even one who shares with the dad the same taste in soda and lollipops, has no role to play in this scenario. Plus, she didn't even ask a clearly devastated Dan-ho what happened, and if she had, she would have learned that he had no idea his daughter had been left alone by the caregiver. These two were cute at first, but just like the leads, all the sparkle seems to have been erased.
Hope it gets better next week.
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Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 2:15 PM
"Also, it pains me to write this as a huge JHI fan, but both his performance and character seem flat."
I'm with you on that... sadly
And about Mo-eum, how can she go from believing he is a terrible dad who abandos little daughter alone at home to "oh, you are a good dad!" two seconds later?
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37 PYC
September 3, 2024 at 2:33 PM
To me, Love Next Door is a keeper with these latest episodes. I dropped Dr Slump and Samdalri at Ep 4 and Ep 2 respectively. It is still uneven - not a surprise now that I know the writer wrote HTCCC.
The two families - plus the second couple and their families - are the emotional anchor of this story. SH has A LOT to lose if his confession turns south. He is like a surrogate son to SR’s parents from them he finds family warmth. Losing that connection is something he cannot risk. In many ways, SH and SR are the very products of their parents. SH is intelligent like his parents but much more reserved than SR who is simply a carbon copy of her mom. There’s not much point for us to argue their strengths and weaknesses because it’s been pre-determined LOL. Look at SH’s father, you can understand why SH struggles to confess.
I can’t say whether I’d still like this drama if SH and SR are played by other actors. Jung so-min is pitch perfect in this role whereas this is my first time seeing Jung Hae-in in a romance (and he’s excellent in DP and Prison Playbook). They have a very natural chemistry that is adorable.
After this week’s episodes, I can’t help but thinking Past Lives - Celine Song’s exquisite movie with Teo Yoo and Greta Lee that was nominated for (and won) so many awards, including an Oscar nomination for best movie in 2023. They both have this childhood friends morphing over time to ‘what’ theme. Past Lives’ main story happened over three days after Teo Yoo decided to meet up Greta Lee during a trip to the US. Despite the separation of 20+ years after Greta emigrated to the States, thus separating these two childhood best friends, the deeply ingrained of how they feel for each other is mutual and palpable but yet extremely restrained - because the girl is now married. They have different boyfriend or girlfriend over the years but timing has never been right for them to be together. The drama and that movie are very different of course but somehow SH’s role is so similar to that of Teo Yoo. I’d recommend anyone who’s interested to explore this theme to check out Past Lives which is available on a number of platforms.
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empressgirl
September 3, 2024 at 8:39 PM
RE: "SH has A LOT to lose if his confession turns south"
Agree. You don't just lose an entire surrogate family and support, but just think of all the banchan dishes you would no longer get (now I would *really* hate that if I were him) lol
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ginkoVal
September 5, 2024 at 3:30 AM
OMG, yes, I’m with you on the Past Lives reference and how Yoo Teo’s character is just like SH. I love how you said their relationship is 'mutual and palpable but extremely restrained' spot on! My disappointment with the show isn’t really about SH’s reaction, because I understand him. It’s more the uneven, messy writing and all the filler crammed into an 80-minute episode. I miss the charming little details from the earlier episodes, the group of friends, the trio, the moms' group, and that lingering Reply 1988 feel in the neighborhood. But I still like the show. It’s like an old friend, you see the flaws, but you can’t help loving them because you get all their unspoken charms. Looking forward to the new episodes. Fingers crossed the show does not disappoint me.
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38 too_much_tv
September 4, 2024 at 10:00 AM
Thank you for the recap! I waited a few days to watch these episodes. I came away a lot more satisfied from these than from the previous week's episodes. I know that writer credits on these shows credit one person, but it often feels like a team of writers who are all mad at each other and wrestling for dominance.
There were many minutes in these episodes of me cooing at the screen. I really loved the ex-girlfriend. I love how Seung-hyo expresses his love for Seok-ryo by getting angry with her when she gets hurt. How dare she think that breaking a giant handcrafted traditional ceramic jar and wasting the food in it is important? Why does she even care about a silk tie! How very dare she!
I'm happier with the characters of Mo-eum and Dan-ho this week, too. Yoon Ji-on is always ready to show vulnerability and tears, and I'm glad that the casting director is taking advantage of that this time without making him play a gay or mentally ill man. I feel like he got typecast as a sympathetic queer-coded villain because of his excellent crying. It's much better to see him crying over his daughter. Both he and the little girl playing the daughter absolutely killed it in their scenes together.
I love the characterization of Seok-ryo's parents. The last scene with them of episode 6, the speech that her mom gives, "We will go together," was just excellent. I teared up when I watched it, and watched it again to tear up again.
Anyway they kept me happy to be watching this live for another week. I have another big busy weekend coming up and I hope some new business during my days, so maybe I will have to delay watching all these lovely shows! Here's hoping.
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Midnight
September 4, 2024 at 10:07 AM
LOL at writers wrestling for dominance!
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welh
September 6, 2024 at 2:56 PM
I have not seen any BTS footage of filming, but in a lot of cases the director and/or the actors change the dialog and scene actions while doing takes. This can lead to a lack of character continuity.
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39 seyhan
September 5, 2024 at 3:56 AM
I dropped this after episode 5. There's something not clicking , I can't really explain it. Maybe it's the subtitles, I don't know for sure, but most of the dialogues sound too contrived and sometimes cringeworthy to me. I rolled my eyes at the ex's entrance. Even the older cast can't save it I'm afraid. Sadly, pass.
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40 Lalla32
September 6, 2024 at 2:19 PM
UGH, I've just realized from the commets that it's the same writer of Home Town Cha Cha Cha. Now everything makes total sense. This thing is a mess and now I know it won't get better.
I could try to stay for Jung Hae In, but he is not great in this and his character is just awful. Hugh, the disappointment.
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41 sali says
September 8, 2024 at 7:23 AM
oh dramabeans, i have been reading your recaps/reviews for so many years now and i still enjoy every article. thank you for being a super fun pal. reading your articles feels like watching the episodes with a kdrama bestie. thanks so much!
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42 sumi
September 9, 2024 at 9:56 AM
I have to say, I have mixed feelings about this show every week. It's like they give the romcom parts to one writer, and the other parts to a different writer, and none of them are on the same page as tone/overall arc, etc. Take the whole "cooking is my dream" thing....I know the FL had made something for ML earlier, and he loved it, but you couldn't have read something more into it, because it might be his biased opinion. And i know they also showed FL having some kind of cooking channel, which was fine, but it seemed like neither of her "bosom buddies" or family knew about the channel. Then...how about showing that while FL was laying around unemployed, the only thing that got her out of bed was the idea of making something. The writers could have shown her literally "coming awake" when she walks into the kitchen and seeing the ingredients in the fridge. They could have shown that she made all these dishes and put them in the fridge and each of her family members ate it thinking the mother or father made it and saying how delicious it was. They could have even shown "flashback" scenes from her life in the US when she would come home tired after work, yet she would make food to de-stress. That would have shown that the FL always had a passion for cooking and what she thought she was doing just as a "stress reliever" was good enough to be made by a professional chef. So, I do not connect with her sudden realization of her "dream", because it really comes acress as sudden and just something she did when she found some cool ingredients (ie, aged soybean sauce) and made a dish and since everyone praised it, she decided to be a cook (just like how her friend said FL liked getting compliments on her studying more than being first in class even!).
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