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My Sweet Mobster: Episodes 7-8

Buckle up, Beanies, because there’s a lot going on with our sweet mobster and his lady this week. We’ve got romance, we’ve got action, we’ve got — *record scratch* — noble idiocy. While I certainly didn’t sign up for that last one, there’s still plenty of squees and laughs to go around, and our deerlings more than make up for the fact that our OTP is growing apart as steadily as they are moving towards one another.

 
EPISODES 7-8

Last week, when we left our OTP, I was feeling all sorts of conflicted because I was swooning over the perilous, life-threatening situation that had befallen them — you know, completely ignoring the fact that they were slowly turning into meat popsicles. But in my defense, Ji-hwan had wrapped his arms around Eun-ha and began huddling with her like a penguin. That’s, like, top tier romance, people! However, brace yourselves, Beanies, because just when I thought that moment couldn’t get any better, the writers went and dialed the cuteness up an extra notch.

You see, while our sweet mobster was using his body heat to keep Eun-ha warm, he was also distracting her from the cold by whispering sweet nothings random penguin facts in her ear that he picked up from the Nature Channel. Let’s be real here, with his arms wrapped around her like that, there’s no way she was thinking about penguins, but her thoughts — whatever they were — weren’t enough to keep her awake. So when our deerlings finally unlocked the freezer door, releasing a cloud of dry-ice smoke, Ji-hwan carried her out of there looking like the cover (frozen, blue lipped) model for a damn harlequin romance novel. (Y’all, the noises I made during the first ten minutes of Episode 7 could have summoned farm animals to my front yard.)

Eun-ha wakes up in the hospital, and given the position of the small sofa next to her bed, Ji-hwan has been waiting by her side for her to wake up. His present anxiousness combined with his actions in the freezer clue Eun-ha in on the fact that Ji-hwan treats her special, but she isn’t sure why. So she straight up asks him: “Why are you so nice to me?”

But before he can respond, his equally worried deerlings, who’ve been spying on the couple, fall through the hospital room door and absolutely ruin the moment. However… I’ve got to say, watching Ji-hwan scold the deerlings for their negligence and reckless match-making attempt was a whole different kind of moment — one that I found extremely attractive because you just know he was channeling all his fear and worries for Eun-ha into his (tightly reined) anger.

Although Eun-ha has known for some time that Ji-hwan is nicer than his reputation, stoicism, and wardrobe would imply, their shared time in the hospital provides additional evidence that she is someone important to him. He was especially thoughtful when writing up a list of items for Mi-ho to pack for Eun-ha’s stay in the hospital, and after Eun-ha’s brief visit to the children’s ward with Hyun-woo — who showed up unexpectedly out of concern for her “hemorrhoids” (a lie courtesy Mi-ho) — Eun-ha discovers that Ji-hwan fell asleep while waiting for her to return.

She marvels at his ability to sleep while in a seated position and traces the shape of his knitted brows. Here’s a man who’s so concerned about protecting those in his care that he can’t even relax while he’s sleeping. So when he wakes from his nap, Eun-ha insists he indulges in a little self-care and gets a vitamin IV pack. After all, she wasn’t the only one to nearly freeze to death.

The flirtations continue in frequency after Eun-ha leaves the hospital, beginning with Eun-ha’s prolonged bout of jealousy after she catches Ji-hwan and Ye-na is what looks like — but totally isn’t — a compromising position. When Ji-hwan returns home that night, Eun-ha is in a certifiable mood, and he bumbles through his explanation of what really happened because Eun-ha trips him up with her passive-aggressive interrogation methods. The poor man nearly chokes on his food when she asks him if he really has no dating experience — because, you know, he sure looked experienced holding Ye-na’s hand. (Cue: Eun-ha’s side-eye.)

After he eats, Ji-hwan helps Eun-ha with the dishes, but he goofs up and gets soap in Eun-ha’s eyes. Ji-hwan’s panic turns to stunned silence when Eun-ha opens her eyes and he gets caught in her gaze. They stare at each other, and although Ji-hwan looks a little panicked — as if he’s simultaneously worried he made her blind and afraid she’s going to scold him — Eun-ha’s doe-eyes are smitten. But, as always, the moment is interrupted by the trio of deerlings spying on them. I love the deerlings’ hilarious antics, but, man, their timing could really use some work.

Although Eun-ha is falling for Ji-hwan, she still hasn’t given up on finding her childhood friend — or destroying Ji-hwan’s lawn to try and locate the time capsule they buried there when they were friends. So imagine her surprise when she returns home (after another outing with Hyun-woo) to find Ji-hwan holding the time capsule. He claims he dug it up to protect his yard, but that is only a half-truth.

And what is Ji-hwan hiding from Eun-ha, you might ask? Well, we can all thank Hyun-woo for this particular plot reveal. You see, in between helping Eun-ha find her teaching mojo again, Hyun-woo has been secretly trying to track down Eun-ha’s childhood friend. He may not be the Hyun-woo she’s looking for, but he still wants to help her find him. So imagine his surprise when he’s looking through old real estate reports and sees a familiar name: Ji-hwan’s mother. Yeah, that’s right, folks, our sweet mobster’s name — before he was taken in by his gangster bio-dad and had it legally changed — was Joo Hyun-woo.

By this point in our story, this reveal should come as a shock to no one watching this drama. There were hints and too many tropey K-drama coincidences for him to not be Eun-ha’s childhood friend, but now that it’s official, I feel a new wave of sympathy for our reluctant mobster. He was forced to give up his dream of being a prosecutor because of his father’s criminal activities, and the smiling, carefree little boy who distracted and protected Eun-ha from her problems, developed an outer shell to shield himself from the world his father imposed on him.

Thankfully, Ji-hwan never truly lost sight of who he was at heart, and even though he didn’t become a prosecutor, he stood by his morals and gave the police an anonymous tip that led to his father’s arrest. Thus, Ji-hwan’s path was cleared for him to turn his father’s gang into an honorable and legitimate business, keeping his deerlings gainfully employed and on the right side of the law. Unfortunately, Yang-hee, the former right-hand man of Ji-hwan’s father, wasn’t pleased when Ji-hwan inherited his father’s position, so he and the rest of his newly formed Kitty Gang ambushed Ji-hwan at a hotel. And yup, you guessed it, that’s the incident Hyun-woo witnessed ten years ago that made him wrongfully believe Ji-hwan was a violent criminal.

Instead of revealing his identity to Eun-ha, though, Ji-hwan suggests to her that “there are memories better left buried” because “for some people, confronting the past is a difficult thing.” His words are a cautionary hint that he doesn’t want to be found, and given what we’ve learned about Ji-hwan’s history with the Bulldog Gang, he’s got several reasons for wanting to keep his past buried. For starters, he doesn’t want to think about the boy with hopes and dreams that never came to fruition. We also know he’s ashamed of his present identity, and he likely doesn’t want Eun-ha to be disappointed in who he’s become.

But, at the moment, his most pressing concern is probably keeping Eun-ha at arm’s length and safely away from his enemies — especially since he’s about to go ono the offensive against the Kitty Gang. You see, Ji-hwan and Il-young have finally confirmed that Former Drug Dealer didn’t run off under his own volition. Instead, he’s been held captive by the Kitty Gang to be used as a bargaining chip in their negotiations with their drug supplier, who wants Former Drug Dealer dead. Of course, this means Ji-hwan, who’s eternally loyal to those who remain loyal to him, must organize a rescue operation — and he intends to make it a solo operation. About that…

Ji-hwan’s deerlings — and Eun-ha — are not the type to just sit around while their friend is in danger, so they immediately mobilize into action once they realize their recklessly fearless leader is missing. Luckily, after the jjimjilbang incident, Ji-hwan had Eun-ha install a tracking app on her phone so he could come to her rescue if she was ever in danger (again), but the app is a two-way street that allows her to track his location, too. By the time the deerlings and Eun-ha arrive on the scene, though, Il-young has already driven Former Drug Dealer to safety and the police have arrived — thanks to an anonymous tip from Ji-hwan and Il-young — and arrested most of the Kitty Gang members… and Ji-hwan.

Hyun-woo finally has Ji-hwan where he wants him: on the other side of his interrogation table. But for a guy who has — up until this point — has been simmering in his own biases and hostility for the last eight episodes, he’s noticeably subdued. Methinks he’s slowly coming around to the possibility that — oh, I don’t know — maybe Ji-hwan isn’t that awful of a person after all. So what clued him into the fact that Ji-hwan is a big ol’ softie?

Well, for starters, from what Eun-ha told him that her childhood friend wanted to grow up to be a prosecutor, and given the fact that Ji-hwan didn’t live with his father until he was a teenager, logic would dictate that he didn’t grow up brainwashed into thinking the criminal life was the high life. Second, Hyun-woo has had a mole among Ji-hwan’s deerlings, the maknae, who has been going to bat for Ji-hwan’s character, stating that Ji-hwan would search just as hard for him if he’d been the one to go missing. And finally, the last piece of information that makes Hyun-woo reevaluate his opinion of Ji-hwan is the anonymous tip about the drug deal going down between the Kitty Gang and their supplier, which he correctly suspects came from Ji-hwan.

Although it’s unclear if Hyun-woo has completely reversed his opinion of Ji-hwan, the two men do agree on one thing: not telling Eun-ha that Ji-hwan is her childhood friend. Ugh, noble idiocy trope, here we come, and sure enough, after Ji-hwan has been released from jail, the first thing he does is push Eun-ha away. He answers her previous question (“Why are you so nice to me?”) with a big fat lie: I don’t like you and I’m only nice because you’re my tenant, “nothing more, nothing less.” Ouch!

Even if I don’t agree with Ji-hwan’s methods, this is one of the rare instances where I kind of understand the lie. Eun-ha has demonstrated several times that she will insert herself into dangerous situations to protect strangers (the waiter at the Kitty Gang’s night club) and people she cares about (Marketing Deerling). Not to mention, she just inadvertently gets herself into trouble. Unlike Ji-hwan, though, she’s more or less defenseless, and her charming way of diffusing tense situations isn’t going to protect her from Yang-hee, who’s still on the loose and showed a dangerous interest in Ji-hwan’s “woman.”

After Ji-hwan pushes Eun-ha away, she meets up with Hyun-woo, and she’s clutching the time capsule in her lap. Hyun-woo builds up to revealing something about her childhood friend, and whatever he tells her has her returning to Ji-hwan’s home and declaring that they should never see each other again. Oh, no! What did Hyun-woo tell Eun-ha that made her give up on trying to resolve things with Ji-hwan?

Considering Hyun-woo and Ji-hwan’s earlier, unspoken agreement that Eun-ha should not find out that Ji-hwan is her childhood friend, it’s possible that Hyun-woo lied and told Eun-ha that he was the Hyun-woo. As far as K-drama plotlines go, that one would check out, but if Eun-ha believed Hyun-woo was her childhood friend, would she really go cold turkey on Ji-hwan like that?

I’m honestly wondering if — maybe, just maybe — Hyun-woo told her the truth, and now Eun-ha is reverse-uno-carding Ji-hwan’s noble idiocy. You know, by leaving him she’s helping him avoid the painful confrontation of his childhood memories. I don’t see Eun-ha leaving him because she fears for her own safety, but if she thought she could save Ji-hwan somehow by giving him space? Yeah, she’d dip out. (Not that I support this logic.)

Noble idiocy aside, this week’s episodes amped up everything good about this K-drama: the romance, the humor, and even the dangerous gang violence element. Once again, our writers are showing us they know how to find a balance with all these genres while making our main and secondary characters shine.

And speaking of our secondary characters, our deerlings’ antics were laugh out loud funny this week, and they had several standout moments that deserve praise. From their constant spying on our OTP to their conception dream that turned out to be a bad omen, these guys are hilarious. But I especially loved the way they sided with Eun-ha after Ji-hwan pushed her away, and instigated passive-aggressive warfare on her behalf. Even the most crotchety of the bunch was coming to “the rat’s” defense! Love it!

Il-young, however, spent a good bit of his screen time performing his own side quests this week, and when he wasn’t gathering intel on the Kitty Gang, he was bumbling his way through his post-one-night-stand awkwardness with Mi-ho. He was very quick to call their night together a “mistake,” but methinks that isn’t how he really feels. Hard to say if he’s just avoiding romance to prioritize Ji-hwan, whom he feels indebted to (because he was off living a “normal” college life while Ji-hwan was getting beat up by the Kitty Gang), or if he — like Ji-hwan — lacks game and only said it was a mistake because he assumed that’s how Mi-ho felt. Either way, I enjoyed watching Mi-ho’s military father put Il-young through his paces — before dropping his stern facade and inviting Ji-hwan to stay for a meal. I really do enjoy a good pair of meddling, matchmaking parents.

 
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Yes, let's get that secondary romance fully under way (way to go Daddy). It was funny when one of the Deerlings misheard Mi-ho's name (Ku Miho) as 'Gumiho"- particularly given that hair is essentially the same color as that of a red fox. So, 'one night stand' plus a possible conception dream? We shall have to see what happens next.

As far as our ML and FL: I have loved a lot of the interactions but the separation at the end of episode 8 left me at a bit of a loss.: Why? The speculations of Daebakgrits are certainly reasonable but we will have to see whether they were on the mark or not.

In any case I am really enjoying this show.

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I think it's gonna be part fake out and scheme. To get him to stop pushing her away and confront his feelings/the situation. Same way the Deers and her at the table gave him the silent treatment the morning after. Well, I'd like it to be anyway.

And I'd rather confront this angst mid show, develop and resolve it well and properly, and then move kn6and God willing not come back, than have it throw a spanner in the works last minute.

I also personally don't mind this brand of "noble idiocy"; when characters push the other away but it makes sense for their character to do so and the motivation for why has been set up well, it's less of a trite and forced conflict (as we often see at the end of shows) and more of a genuine character development point. I was talking with @bammsie just the other day about the version of it that we seen in Anne of Green Gables, of all things (or rather, Anne of the Island), and how if the story writes the characters in a way where you have compassion for them even in their mistakes and (wrong or frustrating) decisions, and understand why and how they're happening, you tend to enjoy that angst and the payoff from it more.

This ofc is vastly different from how it is often used in the last quarter in dramas, where they have all the angst, but none of the justified set up usually, and none of the payoff, because this kind of forced conflict is never allowed true thematic resolution. Anyway.

I enjoyed this week's angst. SJH is totally the believable kind of character for this flavour of it.
Now all you have to do show, is stick the second half... xox hwaiting!

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I agree, @Sicarius, about Eun Ha's motives. I'm pretty sure Prosecutor-nim told her the truth and she's decided to cut the Gordian knot with this ultimatum of sorts. Or she's got some plan for getting Ji Hwan to realize that she doesn't hold his family ties against him. Although I do think, given her past gang-related trauma, Ji Hwan is not crazy to think it might be too much cognitive dissonance for her to fall in love with the heir to a gang. (ALTHOUGH...although....they *could* just talk it through, couldn't they? Just a thought....)

Just one thing--this is a 12-episode drama, isn't it? So we're already 2/3 of the way through. I expect the remaining drama to be caused by Yang Hee doing something totally nuts.

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According to my source (Uhm 2024) it's 16 episodes. 😅 3m45s https://youtu.be/x_AmR2fNcwU?feature=shared

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Hooray! I don't want it to end..

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so glad we still have a few more weeks of this

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I think she is saying goodbye to Ji Hwan and hello to her Oppa.

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Oh! That's a thought.

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Yes, I thought about that possibility as well. Hopefully, we are correct. :)

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My thoughts exactly @redfox

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Very Parable of the Lost Sheep with a side of John 15:13 this week, Seo Ji Hwan, bless you.

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1) Parable of Lost Sheep: Yes, that same thought fleet across my mind too. Left the 99, to look for the one stray sheep

Especially when Prosecutor Jang said: "For a staff who has worked less than a year for you, you planted a spy in the gang just to find out the time & place for the drug deal, and went in alone to rescue him from the enemy camp. Wait, is the tip-off this morning from your guys too?"

2) The other one was unexpected -- start of Ep 8 flashback to 8 years ago when they first came back to buy this house. He didn't look at anything else, the first thing he did was to dig out the time capsule box.

Parable of Hidden Treasures (matt 13:44) 'It is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.'

The way the story beat was directed, it almost felt like JH bought the whole damn compound just to dig out and retrieve that box. The land was besides the point, it was the means to the real end-game: the hidden treasure.

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2) That's so beautiful! I love that, too. See, this is why I love these DB recaps / discussions. So much others help me see that I'd probably miss on my own. 💖

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I didn't make that connection at all, and I LOVE IT. Thanks for mentioning it.

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the deerlings vs the couple moments reminds me of how kids walk in on their parents when they are having private time

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Stage direction: The couple leaps apart like startled deer caught in the headlights, with JH scrubbing the steel countertop in rabid focus

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I love how everyone is aware of the OTP's attraction to each other but still act super surprised to see visible signs of them kinda acting on it.

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The intense and frantic polishing of the countertop while Euna casually cleaned the sink was HILARIOUS!

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this was sooo goood, i laugh so hard at this part every time i rewatch

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and methinks Il Young didnt say mistake bc he doesnt like Mi Ho, it is cause he wants to be better than that and feels it was weak of him. cause indeed it kind of made him look like an opportunist and thats not how he wants to be perceived. plus obviously being afraid to allow himself to feel happy. but giving all deerlings a normal life is exactly what Ji Hwan wants not them living in debt to him.

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Settling & Asking Some Burning Million-Dollar Questions:

1) Who is Hyun-woo?: Settled ✅ Thankfully I have no need to stab my hand with a meat-carving knife or go bankrupt because it is our ML.

1a) How will Hyun-woo? : Now the next big question is how will Jang Hyun-woo (Mr Justice) frame or break the truth to Eun-Ha? (I sure hope he has the moral decency to not mislead her / or lie / or withhold crucial info) This had better be Justice's redemptive arc, I tell ya

1b) That cliff-hanger ending of "Let's not ever see each other again" is making me twist my knickers in angst (but not in a bad sort of way?).
On top of that, it's breathtakingly audacious as a narrative decision at this juncture I must say (mid-way Ep 8 is when most OTP have their first real kiss and seal the deal, and they throw us a breakup juggernaut. Well played show, well played)

2) PT stick: Seriously, whose pregnancy test stick was that?! (was the editor taking kid candy drugs whilst cutting last week's trailer for this week?)

3) Conception dreams are_______ (complete the sentence). No adjective is too preposterous

4) Rats!: Ok, we got that out of the way. Finally. Tis who we thought it was. (Now, I wanna know "why". Does he owe a debt to the Prosecutor too?) I fear there may be more though

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3) a religious matter.

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2. The show is definitely trying to trick us. That pregnancy test has anything to do with our deer family.

Mi Ho and Il Yeong had the one night stand like a few days ago. Eun Ha and Ji Hwan slept in separate beds. So...

3. Regular dreams.
The boys where obsessed over Ji Hwan spending the night at the hospital, then Eun Ha didn't correct them about what happened there. They got all excited and started writing a fanfiction in their heads.

So whatever dream Jae Soo had that night, is the product of that, imo. He didn't even remember the dream well, he just interpreted it the way he wanted given the situation.

4. This is what I'm most curious about. Why would Dong Hee do that?

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Thank you for explaining number 3. It dies make sense.

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I'm glad that helped!

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Pt 3: I think our Deerlings are too eager for their Hyung-nim to have an heir to the meat-processing empire 🤣🤣

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They totally are!! 😂😂

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Wait...what pregnancy test stick???? How did I miss that?????

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It's from the preview of next week.

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Well I still like the show, ji hwan and eun ha and our mobster family. I knew ji hwan was her oppa from the beginning so the reveal wasn't surprising. And so thought I would be okay with this childhood connection in kdramas, I'm not really enjoying it or feels it's necessity. And SL feels stupid for drawing conclusion that ji hwan as the villian from that one glimpse. And the noble idiocy I have mixed feelings. But I'm looking forward to the upcoming episodes they seem back on track.

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NOW, unto all the glorious hysteria and shenanigans & gush-worthy beats I love to bits about this week: (in no order of merit)

a) The hospital dressing-down: JH is awe-inspiring when he unleashes his fury in comic juxtaposition to the huddle of contrite & shamefaced deerlings.
By the time, Man-ho broke the tension with his whimper and full-mode sobs, I was in guffaws.
Then the icing on the cake: "Dear sister-in-laaaaaaw!" (Cue: dragged off stage left, exit) Cut to mortified embarrassment of JH. Brilliant circus 🤣🤣

b) Definitely the fried rice dinner interrogation scene: poor dude has no idea he was led as a lamb to the slaughter and given the third degree while missus is calmly dipping her tea-bag. His interpretation of the scene was comic genius.

Side note: For same reason, I am now totally enjoying Ye-Na as a plot catalyst for our OTP, cos every time she has any skin-ship with JH, EH just escalates into a jealous fit = great comedy. 🤣 You go gal! Dig your claws into our prime meat of a man, and let the love tussle begin!

c) The most tense morning breakfast ever in the Deerlings household:
"This is the winter of our discontent" - the first salvo was fired (courtesy of a pissed Jae-soo, and the Cold war is afoot.

Nothing quite as priceless as seeing Jae-soo and Eun-Ha forming a coalition on the hapless misunderstood JH. (I want a front row seat to that show!)

And nothing screams *ostracization* like someone heisting your banchan right under your nose, not once but TWICE. (yeah, just to make our point. Ahem)🤣🤣

d) Bulldog: "His name is bulldog" (UTG utters this line dead-pan. How many actor can get away with it?) Kudos.

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I love how Man Ho keeps calling her sis in law but no one tells him not to.

Jae Soo and Eun Ha are my favorite deer duo. 💚 That breakfast scene was priceless!

And you're right, Ye Na should keep appearing if that means more jelly Eun Ha.

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Re: I love how Man Ho keeps calling her sis in law but no one tells him not to.

Yes this part is darn funny, cos you can see how fast this progresses. At start of Ep 7 when they drag a sobbing half-hysterical Man-Ho out of the hospital they are still trying to shush him and you can even hear the off-screen dialogue: "Why did you call her that?"

By the end of Ep 8 at the Cold War breakfast, it was a fiat accompli in their household. He was addressing her as SIL, and no one stops him -- not even Eun-Ha herself.

She has levelled up, our girl 😜❤

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Our girl has been accepted as a family member. 🤭

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Mama Deer is official.

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I love this show so much! And I think these two are my favorite episodes so far! I love the family dynamic, so I'm just happy we got to see more of that this week.

1. Papa deer scolding the kids, and mama deer defending ☺️ awww.
Also, I finally confirmed papa's and mama's favorite child.

2. Jae Soo calling his future sis in law "not human" 😂
And that said future sis in law hurting her neck from trying to look at her incredibly tall future boyfriend. 🤣 Jk.

Btw, I want more scenes of Gumiho with the deerlings.

3. The boys thinking they were going to be uncles just to end up being a dead pig (bad luck). 😂 But did they really thought that after sleeping together (in separate beds), she was going to wake up pregnant the next day?

They need to stop postponing those classes. Eun Ha has work to do.

4. Jelly Eun Ha was nice to see!!!
I'm so used to dramas dragging situations like that and making the jealousy a big deal, that I was expecting Eun Ha to misunderstand the situation on her own and then avoid talking to Ji Hwan for days or something like that.

I'm so glad she just got the anger out of her system and the answers out of him at the same time. Yeah, he probably got indigestion that day, but that's better than me having to suffer for an hour of dumb misunderstandings.

And Eun Ha may be nice, sweet and kid-friendly, but she always makes it clear that she's not a child. She's always straightforward with Ji Hwan.

And I liked how she responded to his rude behavior. Noble idiocy or not, there's no excuse for treating her like that. He could've been nicer about it.

Anyway, I loved seeing different sides of Eun Ha this week. And when she cried. 🥺🥺🥺 Ji Hwan better treats my girl right.
She deserves the world.

5. I loved seeing Taek alive and well and reunited with his dongsaeng! The little girl made me cry!

6. Ji Hwan also made me cry when he told Il Yeong that he would've died happy knowing that IY felt like a regular boy even for a second.

This is a real family!

And that's why scenes like Jae Soo ignoring Ji Hwan and Il Yeong at the table, or the deerlings waiting outside the police station are so beautiful to me. Just like Il Yeong, all the boys have a deep connection with Ji Hwan, and they not only feel like they owe him, but they just deeply care about him.

And the same way Ji Hwan ran to save Taek, he would've done the same for the rest.

7. I really loved how Jae Soo said "if we even keep secret between the family, then why do we need to pray together?" and then he proceeded to side with mama deer. Because I feel like Ji Hwan doesn't really understand what he has done in the past ten years. Or maybe he's just trying to keep a distance for other reasons. But the boys know that this is a family, their family, and they want to protect it as much as Ji Hwan.

They have the right to be mad at him for not talking to them about Taek's situation. What if something had happen...

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8. I skipped 99% of the SML's scenes so correct me if I'm wrong but:

Ji Hwan has been clean for ten years, and Hyun Woo has been hating him for the exact same period of time.

However, after all those years of thinking JH is dangerous and that he was preparing for a comeback, the dude couldn't even find his real name?

And you're telling me JH has been growing his deer business for almost a decade and the prosecutor thinks what he is really doing is planning a big comeback? Was he a loan lobster or an idol? Why would he wait all those years to suddenly do some big illegal operation? And with drugs? And with his enemy gang? Out of nowhere? After 10 years? Why?

Or don't tell me that after what happened in the hotel, he thought Ji Hwan was a serial halmoni killer? Wait, but did she actually died? And did the evidence even point to Ji Hwan?

Did Hyun Woo just write an entire novel after seeing a random guy bleeding to death with a bat on his hand? And after framing (in his head) and hating that guy for 10 years, he didn't even know his real name? Like, WTF did you know about Ji Hwan, bro?  What did you do with the last ten years of your life?

I'm seriously wondering who did Hyun Woo bribe to get that job, because this guy is too stupid to be real. Thankfully, it seems like we're moving on from that after this week.

9. Why is Dong Hee spying on his family? Did the prosecutor threaten him? I wouldn't be surprised. Hyun Woo tried to act chill as if he was close to Dong Hee, but DH seemed uncomfortable. Like, "don't talk informally, witch. We're not friends. You're making me betray my family" kind of vibes. Jk

Anyway, I love this drama so much.

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To me, the SL's character has just not been written very well from the beginning. I can see what the writers were going for but they missed the mark. They should have made him more of a competent professional and left the silly romance part out it might have worked for me.

Mole in the wrong gang only finds the real criminal gang after the leader of the gang he without real evidence thinks is criminal and is wasting his time and resources investigating clues him in.

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He doesn't work as a SL or as a prosecutor.
He even spent the entire interrogation talking about Eun Ha. Wth was that about?

I think he would've worked better if he was Eun Ha's brother, cousin or bestie (not a second lead). Or if he had had valid reasons to resent Ji Hwan.

But he's not her family (he knows her for what? A month?), and he doesn't have any reason to hate Ji Hwan.
He pretty much has nothing to do in the show.
If he was funny I would forgive him, but but even that.

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Was he an "idol" waiting for his comeback? That is hilarious. As Minji says in Miss Night and Day "for a prosecutor, he is really dense"

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Perfect quote. 😆

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if something had gone south they´d be orphans

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And we can't have that! Ji Hwan needs to take better care of himself!

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Second that!

I really like how the found family dynamics is shaping up with the injection of Eun-Ha into the equation (aside: this is like Atypical Family, BUT the sidesplitting and heartwarming romcom cousin)

One highlight I like (love their attention to art direction): did you notice their classy mobster black suit ensemble every breakfast got thrown into disarray at the last breakfast (when the Cold War starts)?

For the first time ever, the monochromatic colour palette was broken -- we see cream / beige / light grey / even blue-grey shirts and pullovers across the whole table.

Brilliant sartorial commentary on their relational dynamics -- for the first time ever, the Deerlings broke rank and expressed different opinions from their Hyung-nim. I actually look forward to that cos the mark of a healthy family is the ability to have healthy fights and hold different opinions

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You're right!
Everything in that scene reflected a change in their dynamic. The behavior, the clothes, everything.

I also can't wait to see them grow as a family! Our deer family. 💚

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I love the symbolism in their clothing and you make such a good point! Also, at the end, when Ji Hwan visits Taek, that's the first time we see him out of the house and NOT wearing his usual black suit!

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I'm right there with you, sharing do much love for this drama 🥰

Your recap makes me want to watch the episodes again! We did see different sides of Eun-ha this week. I hadn't realised it quite like that until you said it. She's sweet but certainly not a push over. I want to be like her when I grow up.

I wonder if SL is working for someone else? 🤔

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I too want to be like her when I grow up.

I don't think so, dude never seems to do actual work. LOL

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Lol...true, he's busy obsessing over what Ji-hwan is doing.

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The obsession is real. 😜
I hope it can morph into some reluctant bromance we can root for and ged behind!

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Can I just give Seo Ji Hwan a hug? He needs a hug!

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+1
Stage direction: group hug everyone! *group hug*

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Group hug!! With all the deerlings.

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Theme development that are stand-out gems for me, other just downright moving:

a) Joon Taek's & Yeon's long-awaited reunion:
After 8 full episodes this narrative arc finally concludes in a fitting manner. I commented in Ep 4 that to me this brother-sister story is a parallel emotional commentary shedding light on the motivations and relational dynamics of our childhood ML-FL.

What kept Taek on the narrow path and not going back to drugs is not wanting to be a shameful brother to the lil sister he adores. He wants to do right by her. Likewise, I don't think JH would ever stand before EH as her Hyun-woo Oppa who dreams of being a prosecutor and taking down baddies IF he cannot wipe his slate clean or walk out of the long shadow of his chequered mobster past. It's not noble idiocy, it's frankly too painful.

b) The kite wish ("I want my brother to come back to me quickly!") -- that's why this to me is such a great narrative sign-post. Rewind back to end of Ep 4: the one who is helping little Yeon fly her kite in the
breeze IS actually Eun-Ha.

This plot device is cleverly doing double-duty here, so Joon Taek being returned to Yeon after a long arduous trial -- bloodied and bruised but safe and sound -- bodes well for our OTP as well (I hope!) Cos she flew the kite. She wants her Oppa back. The prodigal brother returns home after a 23-year-wait.

Joon's last words to his sister are also very telling: "Sorry I made you wait so long." (Yes, show we hear you. Don't drag the separation of our OTP for too long either or we may riot)

c) How the same memories/experience may mean very diff things for the people who went through it together. Someone made an astute observation: "It may mean heartwarmingly happy memories that Eun-ha cherished dearly in her lonely childhood. But to Ji-Hwan, it may be a grim reminder that everything you hold dear can be taken away from you in a moment." That is a dark place to revisit.

d) Love all the flashbacks and backstories this week: whether it be the explanation of why JH had a special soft spot for EH since young because he detected they are lonely kindred souls, or the hotel flashback (there, there Prosecutor, you really need to retake your exam); or Il Young's remorseful confession of his regret that he was not there for JH because he was out letting his hair down -- all so good

p.s. digression rant (aside to Prosecutor) : It's so unfair to fault JH in the hotel bloodbath. That poor dude was knifed in the guts, his entrails are probably spilling for crying out loud, he was crawling on the floor and no one was attending to him (one of those moments in drama-land where you know you're better off being a frail old granny if you wanna cut the queue on a "save me" triage)

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I love your take on Taek's & Yeon's story and it's parallel with JH's and EH's childhood connection. It makes everything more beautiful and meaningful (even though it already was).

Taek's story feels like the core of the show.
In a way, he feels like (or represents) any other deerling, but for his sister, he feels like a Ji Hwan.
But now that you mention it, he's not only a Ji Hwan as in "papa deer," he also reflects the Ji Hwan of the past, Hyun Woo.

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I appreciate your thoughtful insights! Especially on Taek's story arc acting as a mirror for our OTP and us, the viewers. That is beautiful.

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Can I just say I loved how the plot developed in these 2 episodes? I was kind of expecting the plot to develop like most other Korean dramas I’ve watched, with the hidden secrets and misunderstandings getting long drawn out just for the sake for dramatic conflict. But I was so glad that everything came to light relatively quickly, which makes for a very comfortable watching experience, rather than us audience having the bird’s eye view of the truth, but watching the leads running around with prolonged misunderstanding, which makes for such a frustrating watch.

Loved how these were all out in the open in these 2 episodes:
1. Ji Hwan finding out that Eun Ha was mistaking 2ML to be Hyun Woo oppa.
2. 2ML telling Ji Hwan honestly that he knows that Eun Ha is mistaking him to be Hyun Woo oppa, and also that he knows that Ji Hwan is the Hyun Woo oppa that Eun Ha is looking for. This puts everyone on equal level footing.
3. Revealing who amongst the Deerlings was 2ML’s mole quickly enough.
4. Revealing the hotel back story quickly enough too.

It felt like everything was playing out naturally as what normal people in the characters’ respective positions would act, without having the conflicts being all dramatically drawn out for way longer than they should for the sake of dramatic conflict for a plot (yes, side-eyeing you Castaway Diva). So it felt very comfortable to watch as the events flowed and played out naturally. Very much unlike other Korean dramas. Such a refreshing and comfortable watch.

I also liked how there was a lot of heart and deeper emotional and character insight and development. That exchange between Il-young and Ji Hwan by the road felt so raw and heartfelt from Il-young’s perspective - it conveyed Il-young’s deep-seated self-blame all these years, and also provided more depth to the Deerlings’ loyalty and Ji Hwan’s compassion towards all of them.

And I especially loved that aspect where Eun-ha herself did her own self-reflection after hearing Ji Hwan’s words, and wondered if she would be imposing on someone by digging up their past even though they went through the same experiences. And I loved how she seemed to respect Ji Hwan’s decision to push her away or not to admit being Hyun Woo oppa at the end of Ep 8. I really really loved this aspect of her character development.

The noble idiocy trope here, I can accept. It felt logical and not contrived. They both knew he had a legitimate reason for pushing her away. Especially after all the danger that she had witnessed he had gone through that day.

I also liked that the plot development put 2ML in such a more favourable perspective in these 2 episodes. Him encouraging Eun Ha to remind herself of her original intent to make children happy, and to continue doing that, and helping her with it. And also that he acted respectably in telling Ji Hwan that he didn’t think he should tell Eun Ha who Hyun Woo oppa was because Hyun Woo oppa himself seemed to have his...

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(continued) And also that he acted respectably in telling Ji Hwan that he didn’t think he should tell Eun Ha who Hyun Woo oppa was because Hyun Woo oppa himself seemed to have his reasons for not revealing his identity.

And of course I love all the laughs that the Deerlings are providing, and especially how Jae Soo is now Eun-ha’s biggest fan and helping her take revenge on Ji Hwan lol.

And I also like how the plot made each of them fall in love with the other person first, before either of them found out about their childhood connection. So their feelings are because they like each other as they are right now, instead of it being just because of that past connection.

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Yes I am really hoping these recent development in plot revelations will bode well for a redemptive arc for SML, and even possibly the thawing of diplomatic relations to the point that they can work together as allies and comrade in arms.

As Hyun-woo X Hyun-woo -- to take the bad guys down (regardless of their titles and social labels in life)

I feel a definitive shift in the interrogation room scene after Prosecutor acknowledged that this ex-mobster before him has done something quite unthinkable -- going deep into the enemy camp to rescue his own staff who has worked for less than a year for him.

*THEN* he closed his laptop and case file, and folded his hands. *a beat* Then asked the million-dollar question.

Because don't forget we are just midway into the plot - we still have Senior Seo in prison alive and active. AND we just had the plot reveal (or rather confirmation) that Ji Hwan was the one who ratted on his own dad. Hell hath no fury like a mobster dad betrayed.

They need to join forces

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Yes. The storytelling is so well done especially with respect to giving us the information we need at just the right time.

It also feels like this show is redefining some of these tropes or perhaps using them in an effective way. The impeccable acting from everyone is also helping.

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Thank you for this candy sweet recap. 

Noble idiocy is what none of us ever sign up for but we receive it as free "service" from K-dramas. The Deerlings will definitely bridge the gap between their Mama and Papa Deers.

Dearest @DaebakGrits just when I thought your recaps couldn’t get any better, you went and dialed the cuteness up an extra few notches. 🥰❤

I mean "cover (frozen, blue lipped) model for a damn harlequin romance novel"!! Hehehe.

Also I can't say anything about farm animals but Beanies from far and wide are effortlessly summoned by to your front yard recaps. 🤣

Mama Deer scolding Papa Deer for making her best deerling cry was just so very cute. Omo ... this drama is rightly named Sweet. Should actually be the Sweetest of 'em all Sweet. 🫰

I half hoped / wished that this time Ji-hwan would "hide" under the sheets on the hospital bed beside Eun-ha as the totally fake Hyun-woo came for a visit. Ah! that would be the day. 😍🙃🥵❤

Grumpy DeerJae-soo and other deerlings are not the only one with paggro technique down pat, Eun-ha can beat them hollow on it. And that lift of a brow while sipping her cup of allegedly calming cup of tea. Oooh if looks could kill. Ji-hwan better learn some tricks to calm down his "woman".

I am soooo happy that uri Sweetie Papa Deer is the really real Hyun-woo and didn't meet up with Eun-ha under false pretext or a borrowed name. 😂

Okay then, hopefully only the noble will remain next week and the idiocy can get kicked to the curb pali, pali, jebal. 🤞

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"Noble idiocy" -- the package bundle & *extras* that nobody wants. (stage direction: throws idiocy under the bus)

And @daebakgrits: your recaps this week is truly inspired! The giddy enthusiasm is contagious too; a pleasure to read and sputter tea over

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Or drink tea sarcastically while dipping in the tea bag aggressively!! I never would have thought a tea bag could be weaponized. 😂

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As some beanie mentioned on the fan wall she was drinking Pet-Tea. (Petty) Ha ha.

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That's a great comment. 😂👍

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"weaponized tea-bag" - I am stealing that phrase!
-- from a tea lover

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Never knew uri Mobster would quake in his boots from a little quirk of her brow.

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Just dropping by to say this My Sweet Mobster is closely becoming one of my fave 2024 kdramas.
I also love Miho's parents especially his Dad. He can be a good influence for Il Young.
Not a fan of noble idiocy and we are still at the halfway mark. I hope this separation will end next week.

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Agree with every word. 😍
Isn't the 23 year separation enough!? They just need to stick together now. ❤

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It may be resolved quickly next week. *fingers crossed* 🤞🤞

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🤞🤞After the episode 8 breakup we need an episode 9 kiss. 😊❤

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Better to get the idiocy and angst out of the way now than do it at ep 13. I get why he is doing it and so I like the show is addressing this issue now before the leads get together.

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agree. I want my second half to be couple goals l healing from the past l growing together in the present to become the best versions of themselves l conquering the processed meat market pie l a reboot to her kids content creator l taking down the bad guys l making a baby l getting the deerlings to pass their high school GED in a month l brighter colours in his wardrobe

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Not just for 2024, MSM may well become one of my all-time fav romcoms.

Very few romcoms actually deliver on both the ROM and the COM -- this one delivers, like they need to pay rent the next day.

The script, the acting, the art direction, editing, production design, CGI, wardrobe etc -- have been excellent. But the real clincher for me is it has so much heart. so much.

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So true with ur last paragraph. It def has a LOT of heart. 🥰

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I like her parents too! It was lovely to see how they stopped asking questions and didn't push Il Yeong to give them more information.
They just wanted to feed their future in law.

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Noble idiocy is often used as shorthand for whenever the OTP decides to separate for the other’s good. I am guilty of using this term loosely myself. However, I think in this case, the show has done a good job of establishing the necessity of why Ji Hwan pushed Eun Ha away. Go Yang Yi now knows of her existence and her place in his house and in his heart by Ji Hwan’s reaction when the mention of her garnered a resistance and steel to the beating he was getting. While it is easy to think the reason Ji Hwan hasn’t had a girlfriend in 36 years is out of some purity fantasy for romantic leads, it seems that he hasn’t had one out of concern that anyone who is brought into his world becomes a vulnerable target to be used against him and he cannot in good conscience endanger someone. On Eun Ha’s side, even though she finds out he is the real Hyun Woo both because I think the prosecutor told her so but also because she was putting that together over the course of these couple of episodes by asking (following up on why Ji Hwan said that some memories shouldn’t be dug up), listening (processing when Ji Hwan said that shared memories can mean different things to different people), and observing (seeing how Ji Hwan actually goes to great lengths to take gentle care of her), Eun Ha respects Ji Hwan’s decision to push her away and she won’t impose herself on him out of some sense that they should be together. What I liked though is that even though Eun Ha accepts his decision, she calls him out on how he did it when she gave him the medicine—she doesn’t believe it’s her right to be with him, but she does believe that she deserves to be treated respectfully and says so.

This week’s episodes showed what great acting is. Um Tae Gu and Han Sun Hwa just brought it—the restraint and nuance in their scenes that conveyed the many different, but deep emotions betwen them packed a punch more that the action scenes, which Um Tae Gu is also a master. The whole series of scenes post-fight was astonishing good from both actors (actually all the actors): from the arrest, the interrogation scene, Eun Ha breaking down privately behind the police van while waiting, the deerlings and Eun Ha outside the police station and Ji Hwan seeing them and her and turning back in, Eun Ha waiting for him on the house stairs, Ji Hwan seeing her and then in an instant deciding to push her away, Eun Ha coming back in and then steeling herself and walking past Ji Hwan out of self-protection AND self-respect, and then culminating in the scene with the medicine when Eun Ha tells him she will respect his decision to be left alone but also she is entitled to not be harshly treated and to be concerned for harm that has come to any fellow human being. How this last scene finally breaks him when he had been trying to be strong through all this was just breathtaking and heartbreaking because Ji Hwan didn’t burst into tears or punch a wall—instead, how he just slightly sunk into the wall...

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with a sadness in his eyes was masterful.

I love how this show has so much depth presented mostly in a cartoon colored package. There are many messages about hope, redemption, grace (the fact that her name is Eun Ha, when Eun means grace), and mercy. There are meaningful relationships beyond the OTP, which makes this show full. The main who is in charge of company is actually shown to be doing work instead of just being rich and dealing with his feelings for a romantic partner—so far, we have seen Ji Hwan deal with personnel matters, supply matters (taking the call from the Buddhist retreat and sudden in flow of inventory leading the freezer incident), PR crises (the video from the fair and a spokesperson allergy to the main product), etc. And despite what may seem like noble idiocy, which I don’t think is idiotic in this case, I love how mature and yet, romantic the relationship between Ji Hwan and Eun Ha has become. Their acts of care towards each other (e.g., how Ji Hwan, despite his reluctance to revisit the Hyun Woo memories, digs up and gives Eun Ha the time capsule, how Eun Ha adjusts how she approaches Ji Hwan after learning of his hypervigilance state of being) are deepening their relationship precisely because they are noticing and respecting things about each other instead of doing things that they think the other would like—that is truly swoony and heartwarming.

And can I say one seemingly superficial, yet seems meaningful thing? Besides Ji Hwan's sweater game rocking the universe, the colors he is wearing even in his suits are moving away from black. He even wore a sweater outside the house when visiting Taek at the hospital because I think he didn’t want to scare the little sister when they brought her to visit. A change is happening and he is showing more sides of himself, including his collarbones. And we agree that’s a good thing.

I LOVE THIS SHOW.

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I love it, too! The romance is truly wonderful

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I love your observation about the change in his clothes! He didn't want to scare Taek's sister...aw 😭 That makes so much sense 💗 Growth is definitely happening and I'm excited to see what the final version of him will be.

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Gum, your comments always make the shows so much better for me. More beautiful.
I love the way you talk about the dramas, I feel like you have some special pair of eyes that look into the soul of the show.
Thank you. 💚

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thank you gum shoe for your invaluable insights, it elevates my appreciation of the storytelling and character developments. i don't feel frustrated by ji hwan pushing eun ha away as it is completely logical and reasonable for him to do so. it is completely believable to me. at the same time it provides a just nice level of angst which i enjoy. some of my fave scenes in ep 7/8 are the hospital night scene when ji hwan spent the night and they had the heart to heart talk. the highest form of love to me is consideration, holding the loved one in regard when making decisions, caring for the other's happiness and well-being as priority. i love how this is shining through.

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I totally agree with you.
That's why I also commented that him not wanting to reveal his identity, or dig up the past is not noble idiocy, it is frankly painful given his set of circumstances. (*sigh* that's why this show has such pathos for me)

But I think what we meant is we don't want any noble idiocy (the stupid frustrating senseless type that makes viewers want to punch their fist through a wall). So far, so good. This show has no narrative missteps imo

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I'm okay with noble idiocy if it doesn't last too long, which I don't think it will in this show

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I want to like this a thousand times. You've encapsulated it beautifully.

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💯 same. You have analyzed so well and written it beautifully!! ❤

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@Gum Shoe: LOVE your comment!
Hit: *Like and Subscribe* ❤❤

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and on a completely bimbotic digression...

I totally agree that him being single for 36 years has got less to do with purity/innocence, and more to do with a painfully keen awareness of the dangers his lifestyle will bring to loved ones.

(rant: Someone so hot hoarding his purity is simply criminal, I say! If he were a penguin, it would trigger a climate crisis in the Antarctica cos all the ice sheets will melt and sea levels will rise from his sheer hawtness)

Rewind to pilot ep: Conversation with everyone's favourite granny when she was trying to matchmake him cos he has "cleaned up his act."

He snorted and drawled languidly: "Do you want me to ruin a girl's life?" He knew. It was a conscious decision.

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Side Note: after last week's gentlemanly "preface-before-the-deed huddle, I wanna flag the other equally chivalrous & gentlemanly gesture -- the couples tracking app

I love that lil detail of how he was on the verge of saying "You know how when a couple" then caught himself and switch to "two people'', get her consent and buy-in, then install the app.

Again, so gentlemanly (unlike some other prosecutor in another show who installed tracking app on FL phone when she went to the toilet.)
MND, here's lookin' at ya 😑

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That was such a sweet scene. Very gentlemanly indeed. With all his (adorable) foilbles and vulnerabilities he is a text book example of chivalry, isn't he?

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That's the word I've been looking for, thank you! Instead of 'noble idocy', it's more like 'chivalrous consideration' on his part.

He's like a real life knight in a shining black suit...(of armour).

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Noble idiot? Let's see, UTG is so cute that we forget that he is the leader of the local mafia. This guy just saved the life of his subordinate by risking his own against the same people who almost killed him ten years ago. The rival leader has confirmed that he has someone better to kidnap to easily finish off SJH and his entire faction. His devastated expression at the door of the hospital felt especially sad since it was not only due to a deep shame for EH seeing him at his worst as a gangster, but also to his certainty that to take the target off of him, he had to definitively renounce her without wasting time. The only idiotic noble facet that SJH sins from is not wanting to involve his men in the rescue. I'm not surprised that Jisoo is offended. SJH has tried to protect them to the same level as it protects the "little rat." I would also give him the silent treatment for a couple of days >=(

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I agree! That lone wolf act, though understandable is worse than him wanting to protect Eun-ha by offering himself up as the noble idiot. Yet, it also feels inevitable for his growth. He needs to do the tough thing and let the boys into his inner world and allow them to protect him in the same way he protects them.

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I love this show and what a fabulous set of episodes. The leads are fantastic, every side character is well etched and the humor is so on point. The rom com that finally roms and coms aplenty.

Seo Ji Hwan hurting makes my heart ❤️‍🩹
This poor man deserves happiness and I am so glad Eun Ha is the perfect match for him. What’s better than two absolutely genuine and thoughtful people getting together!!

I loved the backstory.

Whoever is dressing up Uhm Tae goo deserves a raise!! Hubba hubba that man is 🔥

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Oh. Also the gangta dog fashion is killing me. Heard vest and a heart plushie 💕
lol. Bulldog named bulldog 💙💙
The owner and doggie are so alike. Rough on the exterior but such softies 💕

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dog be better dressed than me

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The transition shots & estab shots of our resident bulldog is becoming quite a treat for me, and something to look out for ❤ I really love their attention to details
standouts for me: the loud Panama shirt, and the heart-shaped top

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I couldn't have said it better myself. All the hearts for this 💛💛💛

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I don’t like you and I’m only nice because you’re my tenant, “nothing more, nothing less.”

Dude totally deserved the silent treatment the next morning as well as her moving out. Unnecessary.

Il Yeong. Dude never tell a woman you had sex with it was a mistake. You can apologize for rushing things but she just might be embarrassed, insulted, and completely not understand WTF you mean when you make that type of declaration. He was lucky it wasn't fatal.

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especially if she is a gumiho

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Never believe the evidence of your eyes!

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I think hes a little or a lot scared that he likes Mi ho and he's supposed to be a player???

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I chalk it up as a writer's problem. Unable to properly write lines showing awkwardness and shyness instead has him say something crude. The actors were acting it out perfectly until this failed line was delivered.

K-drama writers fail a lot when portraying these type of scenes. I was surprised the go-to "don't take the sex we had the wrong way" line wasn't use.

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I think a half stammered "That night...I didn't mean to - I made a mistake.." would have been better because it's less clear what the mistake was, rather than just chalking up the whole night as a mistake.
I mean, I've made many a mistake in my life but they don't resemble those flashback scenes at all (they're more ketchup-y than carnal)

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Yes! He was clumsy. As the audience we can kind of guess that he doesn't actually think it was a "mistake" but poor Mi ho only has his words to go by.

More ketchup-y than carnal 😂

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Like papa deer, like deerling.

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Side note: Not excusing him, but I suspect that little scene insertion -- of the indignant Deerlings mouthing off Miho for her apparent rudeness and comparing their relative seniority (by age) -- is there for a reason.

Miho is 30 yo, Il Young 29. This is a noona romance; I won't be surprised he's a wee tiny bit intimidated too

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My take on the Ep 8 ending is that the prosecutor Hyun Woo told Eun Ha that the childhood Hyun Woo is none other than our sweet lobster.

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Yeah, I think that's the most likely explanation. The other possibility is that he lied and said it's him, but I don't think that would make her cut off Ji-hwan entirely... then again, Ji-hwan really hurt her feelings with that "I don't like you" deal.

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I tend to agree too. I thought Eun Ha’s minuscule facial expressions (a bit drunk-playful, yet so sad and wistful too) during the ending scene were kind of a giveaway that she knew it was him already. We’ll see. But if that turns out to be right, that was very very well-acted by Han Sun-hwa. Her acting was so on point there, trying to keep up a brave front to respect his decision, yet you could also see the sadness and wistfulness in her expression too.

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Themes
Don't rely solely on the evidence of your eyes.

Don't assume you know someone because of what they look like.

Don't think you know what's going to happen because you've seen it all before.

Also, if the biblical parallels are going to keep holding. Someone's probably gonna die, and it's gonna hurt.

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"Don't think you know what's going to happen because you've seen it all before"

I love this so much. It's one we don't think or talk about enough.

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Was there anything cuter than Ji-hwan watching a documentary about penguins, remembering said documentary to cuddle Eun-ha, and then trying to distract her with fun penguin facts? And later with the list of hospital stuff? 😭

Also, wow, who knew that Hyun-woo was Ji-hwan. I am so shocked. Shocked, I say! They really DID pull a Castaway Diva.

Regarding the end of ep 8: WHAT DID YOU DO, KWON YUL?

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That was cuteness overload for sure 🥰

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Re: Regarding the end of ep 8: WHAT DID YOU DO, KWON YUL?
everyone's burning question

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What a delicious recap. Thank you @DarbakGrits. This week I found myself greedy for all the screen time to be given to our OTP. As much as I LOVE the Deerlings and all their crazy shenanigans, they have the worst timing in the world and they were just getting in the way of our couple getting closer.

Ji-hwan and Eun-ha's sweetness to each other makes me swoon. Not only do they do nice things for each other, but they also don't let each other off the hook when the other person is being unreasonable or inflexible. I love that.

I was impressed with how well Eun-ha has been tracking and paying attention to Ji-hwan. He was speechless and looked smitten in the hospital when she gave him a rundown of his sensitivities and what she had observed about him. She remembered things he'd said in seemingly passing conversations and she connected the dots so well. I'm a sucker for that level of attentiveness and both of them are doing such a great job listening to each other even amidst misunderstandings. #relationshipgoals.

The other spotlight for me was Ji-hwan's relationship with Il-young. I really, really like their bromance. It's subtle yet loud and always present. I had a tear in my eye when Il-young refused to let Jihwan go on his own to rescue Taek. I'm not sure how he was planning to accomplish that mission all on his own because clearly it worked SO much better with Il-young there.

Ji-hwan is not only learning to open his heart to Eun-ha but to his Deerlings too. The found family theme in this show is beautiful to watch.

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Love what you said about Eun-Ha's attentiveness - it's so easy to see why our Lead Mobster is smitten with her!

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I really want more of the secondary romance. I hope that one ends happily too. I suspect the pregnancy test is Miho's. I am guessing the reason for Il Young's behavior is has something to do with his loyalty to Ji Hwan and MAYBE something also to do with not wanting to get a love interest involved in his dangerous life. Maybe he has a little of Ji Hwan's self loathing too? There was a hint of that in the way he talked about what a terrible deerling he was for partying on the day JH was stabbed.

I'm still curious as to how IY ended up in the deerling gang. He implied that he was not an ex-con, though he should have gone to jail for drunk driving. I hope we get more of that story and see the details of his connection.

Also--so relieved the maknae was the mole. He's got no personality to speak of, so I don't feel betrayed, though I do wonder what the eventual fallout will be. (I was worried it was going to be IY. That would have been heartbreaking.)

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I doubt it was actual drunk driving he should have gone to jail for... I think that was a metaphor.

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maybe he did rush to the hospital after partying but he was let off the hook for being a student

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Overthinking the plot (the dark tragedy cut)
Taek (in hospital) and Yun and Halmeoni could all be victims now - an easy way to get to Ji-hwan If they are going to go that route. It would of course be Eun-Ha that they attack though if they were going to - Taek and Yun have done their dramatic duty by mirroring our main lead, and will drop out of the plot now.
Dad and Kitty gang leader and and the big bag of money can make a load of trouble. Co-opt Ye-Na as well for a slapstick version instead of dark tragedy.
Major back story secret is yet to be revealed and will result in a more serious end-game break between our couple. We still don't know what happened after the snow container/beating incident, but we do know that Eun -Ha thinks it is her fault that she never saw Hyun Woo again, and also that Eun-ha's parents divorced.

Back in regular programming, Mr Prosecuter has shown himself to be a upright justice guy. It's going to be a personality change if he tells JH that he won't tell EH- and then tells her. But it certainly seems like EH knows by the time she comes home again.

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Treasure hiding vs Dirt digging -- How deep a hole did we dig?
Yes - that was what I was mulling over too.

We still haven't got the full story on what truly transpired 23 years ago (which is why I think there is a more compelling reason -- besides all the excellent ones already raised by Beanies here -- on why ML chooses to pull away from FL and disavow her now)

1. If you piece all the narrative breadcrumbs and postulations from Chief Oh as well, the very fact that his name change was so complete was itself a red flag to me.

a. If Senior Seo merely wanted to get his son back as heir to his gang, he would only have to change his surname & household register. The fact that he changed BOTH the name and surname from Yoon Hyun-woo to Seo Ji-Hwan signaled that he did not want the mother to ever find her son again.

b. The fact that he carried his mother's surname meant that the mom either raised him as a single unwed mom or is divorced from the dad, then found herself pregnant)

c. They had to change houses every 6 months - so his childhood was very similar to Eun-Ha's (and possibly even worse), it was a volatile and dangerous environ growing up cos you always had mobsters kicking down your door

d. His ability to distract her (the hole-riddled socks turned ear mufflers) was actually born from his own very personal harrowing harassment experience; it was not some magical universal love for kids or childlike wonder (as show originally led us to think)

e. Perhaps another (hitherto buried) reason JH did not want come to light was that whatever "mistake" little Eun-Ha made that day directly resulted in him being wrenched away from his birth mother & thrust into a criminal life he never dreamt of living.

He could never have told Eun-Ha the truth -- that would put her in guilt for the rest of her life even though it really wasn't her fault (that exchange between Il-Young and JH about the hotel incident was there for a reason; just look at how that guilt festered for 10 years)

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Back to Pt d:

That is why I love the delayed decoding as the plot unfolds.

Earlier I could not really reconcile why the adult Ji-Hwan shows such a helpless disconnect with little kids (Ep 4) when the little Hyun-woo was so good with Eun-Ha.

Unlike Prosecutor Jang & Eun-Ha who both share the similar trait of having a universal love of children, and an easy natural rapport with them, that is not the case with Ji-Hwan.

He did not have a universal love of children; his love is very particular and specific. The young Hyun-woo loved only one child - Eun-Ha (Ep 7, hospital scene)

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Also perhaps he had to grow up to be a "scary" mobster and found it useful to keep up the facade. I do agree the connection was more for Eun-ha irrespective of her age. He was attracted to her even when he knew her only as Minnie Unnie.

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Looking at the long litany of childhood trauma young Hyun-woo went through, he probably needs to see @vienibenmio for therapy & PTSD healing

p.s. They should have tagged this as a healing drama too, calling it a fluffy romcom is seriously underselling it

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The genre tag is seriously confusing. 🤦‍♀️ Not that I object to rom-com, kindly give me more, just that there is so much to unpack here.

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b) Mr Prosecuter says that she was an unwed mom as he is looking thru JHs files. (I think if she was divorced, it would have been noted in the files, and it isn't, so he knows its a single mom)

c) I suspect EH's dad was also a mobster- a gang member- We see the bad guys looking for her dad and we automatically assume its debt, but I don't think they say it definately is? I wonder if her dad had an affair with the boss's wife?

d)both the distraction and the requirement to hide sometimes. He knew what to do because he had done it; but this time instead of hiding himself he is putting himself on the line to hide someone else

e) Yes, very likely

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b) ah, did he? I wasn't sure myself too, but recalled that when JH asked EH what happened to her childhood friend she said: "Oh his parents divorced so he had to move away..." (I then chalked up the Yoon surname to either single mom, or divorced mom)

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I thought it was EH's parents who divorced, so She had to move away. I could be wrong. If either of us rewatch it, come back and tell us! :) (Also, occasionally the subtitling gets he/she confused)

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While both our leads had disruptive childhoods uri FL luckily got a chance to be "good" while uri ML was literally forced into the life of crime perhaps to survive. Was the mother and her well-being used to blackmail him to be the heir. Will she come back and have a larger role to play now in what will surely be a final showdown between the father and son.

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I appreciate your deft changing of genres resulting in change of perspective depending on who is telling the story!! 👏👏👏

I'm greatful that the only genre tag we have here is rom-com but then so was Heartbeat. 🙀

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Since there are plenty episodes left obviously things will get darker but hopefully the cute couple hijinks will continue. 🤞

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I didn't see anyone comment on this, among all the excellent other comments, so I'm just going to add: although Ji-hwan may not have grown up to become a prosecutor, he certainly grew into a righteous man who scolds bad guys, mostly his own.

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Yes, it's been flagged in previous weeks, but its good to mention it again! The one justification I could see for Mr Prosecuter changing the way he relates to Ji Hwan, is IF he finally recognises JH as also being a prosecuter, a collegue.
We have been going with biblical examples on this, so IF that is true we could say that JiHwan is equivalent to "a priest (prosecuter) of the order of Melchizedek"- a higher order than the Aaronic priests (prosecuters) who were bound by rules and the law .

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Wow. I learn so much on here.

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Right?

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Thank you! These recaps are gold!!

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Someone in previous recaps said that he's more about restorative justice versus retributive, and I think that's such a good point

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Wonderfully put. This is the heart of it and you just tore through the KD magic to connect it with the real world. You’re not a criminologist by any chance, are you?🤗

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Not a criminologist. Just a gal who nearly had triad in-laws, was a befriender to juvenile prison gals, and just generally believe we all need second chances in life. “There but for the grace of God go I.”

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Amazingly perceptive and of course 💯 accurate. I think with your insights we are learning more about the drama in our first watch than what we would have learned in 5 rewatched. We are also learning to watch the drama slowly and with care to really absorb where we are going with the story. It is enlightening and empathetic and fun without being preachy and moralistic about RL lessons we need to learn about giving second chances to those on the margins of society who may not necessarily be given such chances easily.

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@joanna and @enriquequierecagar: Loved all of your comments. Thank you for channelling my sentiments too but much more evocatively and at times, humorously.
I wasn’t familiar with the main leads until this drama and they have been delightful. Uhm Taegoo has been a revelation. He has embodied Jihwan with such depth, intensity, awkwardness and care that it is almost easy to forget that he would’ve had to be brutal and do unspeakable things while he was an active gang member.
Tangentially, have I missed an explainer about how Ilyoung came into Jihwan’s orbit?
And, what is the deal with the twinset and pearls getups the gang leader sometimes wears? I wish they could’ve made him gender non-conforming but as I see it, he is just presented as a little sociopath albeit with very bad taste in clothes. Coincidentally, I saw these pictures of G-Dragon for a fashion shoot and he was styled in these fugly twinset and pearl number. Am I missing something about this trend? Shudders.

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Is it possible that Ilyoung is Jihwan’s actual half or step sibling?

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I don't think so.The big boss (Ji Hwan's dad) only had Ji Hwan and Cat boss under his wings. If Il Yeong were related to him, I would guess things would've been different.

Also, Il Yeong said that he committed a crime but didn't get caught. So I'm guessing Ji Hwan covered for him somehow and kept him by his side to keep him on the right path. 

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Doesn't seem likely but what made you think so Em - any particular scene or dialogue or just the fact he seems to be Ji-hwan's favorite as correctly pointed out by T. ❤

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Cera, I thought it was an incredibly emotional statement for JiHwan to make when he said to Ilyeong “I would have died happy because you were living the life of an ordinary college kid”. He doesn’t become that raw except with Eunha so it made me think what is their exact relationship and how was it forged? So far, it is only vaguely defined. Of course, I could very well be barking up the wrong tree.

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I do think you are on to something. It was definitely not the usual Papa Deer protecting the Deerlings with hard love kind of statement. As T said I think it is because he is covering up something for him. Let's see but they definitely have a deeper connection than others. You are as usual extremely perceptive. ❤

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Cera, as always you’re far too kind but I appreciate your generosity of spirit. Thank you.`

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Right back at you Em. 😊❤

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Sometimes the second-hand embarassment is so real, but I love the how our leads are shaping up.

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The OTP's fights and the accompanying sound effects are the best. When Eun-ha doesn't back down there is a growl and a whimper when we cut to Ji-hwan's face. The Deerlings are literally like deers caught in midst of headlights. 😂

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Am I the only one assuming that Il Yeong and Ji Hwan are brothers? Likely half brothers, with the same mobster father?

It seems so clearly forshadowed that I'm startled nobody else is talking about it.

Their relationship is portrayed as unique among the deerlings.

IY is an exception to several things already. He is "not exactly, but basically" an ex-con. He did criminal things but wasn't caught. (I'm unclear if he actually went to prison, have to rewatch the boardroom scene that lists their crimes).

He's very obviously the closest person to JH, but he's also very opaque in his behavior. He never answers a personal question, always deflects, is always smiling, never shows vulnerability, always watching, interpreting, and intervening to the good of JH.

And, out of all of them...he is educated. Somehow, he was involved in criminality while a young university student, despite his youth, and was protected, coddled and sent off to write exams by JH, while still being totally aware of the criminal nature of the gang and having responsibilities in it. How on earth does that happen if you aren't brought up in it?

He didn't accept money from JH, he worked hard for scholarships, which means he was a student and a criminal mobster at the same time? That young? While that close to JH?

The whole Ex Drug Dealing Gangster cleaning up his act when he discovered he had a younger *sibling*? The framing of the two of them, watching the reunion in the hospital room?

It seemed so obvious to me, when JH said he would have died happy, knowing that IY felt like a normal person for just one day, that he desperately wanted his brother to have a normal life, as normal as he could provide. For one of them to escape.

And IY's guilt over not picking up the phone, seemed more than a subordinate feeling guilt about their boss, it was personal guilt for his brother that he let down, after all that brother had done to protect him and shield him and give him an out.

And to me, THAT is why he is so tentative and unwilling to continue with Mi Ho. He's not just a maybe formerly imprisoned ex- con who works at Thirsty Deer. His father is an actual mobster.

Am I the only one seeing this?

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Heh, I see DancingEmma said something similar right above me, so I'm not the ONLY one picking up on it! :D

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As always, I am late to this drama- I have a hard time watching before I know how it will end. But I had so much fun watching Lovely Runner live that I finally gave in and started it so I can be to be part of the anticipation! I'm binging hard now to catch up with real time!

I wasn't sure that I would like this drama, I don't really go for silly romcoms, but I quickly realized that underneath the silliness there is so much deep content. AND, as always, reading all of the Beanies comments really helps me discover all of the "Easter eggs."

Can't wait to watch the next episode to see what Mr. Prosecutor told Eun Ha!!

I am also feeling that there is more to the relationship between SJH and JIY, and that scene between them (before the hotel incident) almost broke me. Can't wait to learn more about their history. Was JIY a mob member while in college?

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