[Drama Chat] An old drama that needs a modern polish
by mary
Every K-drama fan has had this happen: you recommend an old gem to a friend, but instead of enjoying the story, they end up complaining about the terrible video quality and outdated fashion or *gasp* it’s not available on any streaming site.
In this age of high-budget productions and 100-inch TVs, the classics look like the equivalent of low quality. But there are some shows that are too good to stay undiscovered by the millions of folks falling in love with K-dramas nowadays.
Of course, some dramas are better left in the past –like my favorite Delightful Girl Chun-hyang’s high-schoolers’ arranged marriage AND love triangle with an agency CEO plot. But its spiritual successor My Girl would still make a good giggle-and-cry-fest today. Just tweak the second leads to be more fun and less obsessive, and the main premise still works: hotel CEO hires a small-time scam artist to act as his elegant cousin to make his dying grandfather happy… only for the grandfather to miraculously recover from happiness, thus trapping them longer in a hilarious lie.
What is an old K-drama (2014 or earlier) that you wish would get a remake? What small tweak do you think would make this adaptation even better?
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1 miso
January 14, 2024 at 5:09 AM
I generally don't love remakes because you can't really recreate the charm of the era or how excellent certain performances were. But if I had to choose, I'll go with Stars Falling from the Sky/ Wish Upon a Star.
If you tweak (or honestly completely remove) the SFL and the stepmom/aunt(?) character, this would be such a good story. Cohabitation hijinks, cute kids, a viable love triangle, actual character growth!
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 14, 2024 at 11:03 PM
I loved that show so much!!!! I don't need a remake, I just need Viki to get the license back!
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2 Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 5:17 AM
Full House? I didn't like the Korean version but I really liked the Thai remake, so I think it's a story that could work with better actors and writing.
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zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 6:22 AM
That's exactly the one I was thinking of! I really like the actors but Rain's character was over the top obnoxious. The story would still work without that level of obsessive chauvinism. More time with his parents is needed, especially the grandmother. Don't ditch the 3 Bears song though hahaha! And the setup for the house to be sold underneath the FL has to be more realistic. Then they just have to cast leads with the same amazing vibes and voila! Full House remake 😉
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:36 AM
Perfect suggestions for the updated version.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
January 15, 2024 at 9:45 AM
Also, "Personal Taste."
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:35 AM
^^ Seems quite a challenge but I would love an updated Full House version, with everything new but of course they need to keep the same house. 😊
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zindigo
January 16, 2024 at 9:47 AM
I think that house was built for the drama and was destroyed in a storm years later 😢
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:55 AM
What ... no!! 😳 That was a whole character in the drama.
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3 Trina
January 14, 2024 at 5:28 AM
I wonder if the old epic dramas can be recreated today. Think: Jumong & Jewel in the Palace
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john
January 14, 2024 at 6:01 AM
Jewel would be easier to pull off.
Jumong would be harder to do. I doubt if they would do 81 eps, even Jewel at 54 would be a huge project by today’s standards , where 20 episodes are split into two “seasons”
If they were to do a retelling , I would be curious how many episodes they would commit to.
I think a Jewel retelling would appeal to a larger audience than a Jumong retelling.
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 6:47 PM
I don’t think Jewel in the Palace could be any better…it would be interesting to see more Sageuks like it (I love Jewels in the Palace and traditional Sageuks).
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
January 15, 2024 at 9:47 AM
I like the idea of condensing old classics into condensed shorter versions.
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4 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 14, 2024 at 5:48 AM
I like the idea of a modern Korean royal family with a rags to riches element. The Matchmakers has provided some ideas about how a modern day sageuk could work so I have been eagerly awaiting the remake of Princess hours. I am confident they would get rid of the many problematic elements that did not age well. I was able to look past them when watching it for the first time a couple of years ago.
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Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 6:08 AM
The remake is actually in discussion. There are a lot of debats about the actors. Some people wish they choose idols for the roles and wants good acting. It's quite funny because Yoon Eun-hyewas an idol and was criticized a lot.
I like the idea of a moderm Korean royal family, My Princess would be a good story for a remake!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 14, 2024 at 6:14 AM
They have mentioned the remake for a while now so not sure what is causing the delay.
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zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 6:24 AM
Maybe they're not sure they can sell the idea of a modern royal family anymore?
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Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 6:34 AM
Or maybe the fact to marry a highschool student?
Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 8:32 AM
Lol probably no one wants to invest in barely breathing youth romcom genre nowadays, let alone remake of a famous IP that would've surely cost a fortune AND be plagued by extreme expectation since the start. Leads marriage is not a problem at all compared to that - just do what t-dramas always do when adapting Japanese manga and change high schoolers into college students.
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Minnie🫘👩🏻🚀Pioneer and Teacher 👩🏻🏫🌱🏹
January 14, 2024 at 8:46 AM
I have always wondered why they do not do college instead of going back to same old tropey high schools with actors in their 30s.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 9:35 AM
Misplaced pride in "staying true to the source material"?
Even college age up doesn't always work though - as much as I adore t-drama version of MARS for being arguably the most careful manga adaptation ever, making leads legal adults took away logic behind one of the angstiest parts of the story and thus seriously weakening its originally massive impact. Drama did its best to keep the vibe, but that feeling of utter helplessness and despair that corresponding chapters in manga had was just not there, unfortunately.
Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 10:05 AM
I think they avoid the sex subject because their college dramas are highschool dramas with booze in addition. Nevertheless was quite unique for this point.
Charlotte
January 18, 2024 at 12:28 AM
King 2 Hearts with Lee Sung Gi was built around a modern royal family. Well done with a very light touch of pomp & splendor, but loved the Enemies to Lovers vibe of our leads from North and South Korea.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 18, 2024 at 4:45 AM
Oh thank you for this, it sounds like one I should try.
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 6:47 PM
Princess Hours definitely came to my mind!
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5 john
January 14, 2024 at 6:09 AM
Delightful Girl Chun-hyang’
I miss Han Chae-young unnie.
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Midnight
January 14, 2024 at 10:33 AM
RIP Moon Ji Yoon 😢
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john
January 14, 2024 at 11:34 AM
😔 idk he had passed.
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6 aicaramba
January 14, 2024 at 6:18 AM
CITY HUNTER. It was pretty sleek for it's time, but it would benefit a lot from a remake -- updated hair, fashion, gadgets, action choreography, camera work. I don't remember everything, but I think the story would generally hold up well to today's standard so there's not a lot of rework needed in that aspect.
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technicat
January 14, 2024 at 10:43 AM
I sort of think of Healer as a City Hunter remake.
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Grand Sophy
January 14, 2024 at 12:15 PM
Omg the hair. I could not seriously regard Lee Min-ho as cool, or hot, or basically anything other than dorky, because of that hair.
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7 jerrykuvira
January 14, 2024 at 6:19 AM
Damo.
I watched it and I think the image quality dulled my enjoyment of the fight scenes.
And whenever and whatever they remake them, I'd like that they light up the dark scenes. Jumong shot it's dark scenes with enough lighting so I could see what was happening. Most dramas takes the darkness of the night way too seriously.
Remake A Man Called God.
Tweak: Give Jin Bo-bae enough characterization.
And don't do Vivian Castle dirty. She didn't have to die like that.
Remake Blade and Flower.
Tweak: Rewrite the ending.
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Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 10:09 AM
Yes for Damo update. I would only change the fighting scenes to look more realistic.
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8 Seon-ha
January 14, 2024 at 6:20 AM
OK, with the full admission that I've never seen the original because everyone says DON'T DO IT...but also with that being the very reason I mention this: The Heirs/Inheritors/Spoiled Rich Kids.
I quite like stories of petty rich people from time to time, done up not quite as full makjang, but more like a more tightly-packed weekender. Let's do some rags-to-riches with a sprinkling of twins separated at birth type stuff!
I have casting ideas....and like the original Heirs seems to have done, it could launch the careers of a lot of young actors if there were stars like Kim Jae-won already there to draw audience, and we could get some real scenery-chewing roles for more established actors like, say, Ha Do-kwan or Jung Young-joo. Yay.
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Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 6:40 AM
They could do a remake of Boys over Flowers because the Korean version was the worst between TW, JP, C, Thai versions.
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Seon-ha
January 14, 2024 at 6:42 AM
That, indeed, is another one they'd have to remake to get me to see it (not that my viewership is central to this at all), because other Beanies have been so adamant that either "you had to be there back in the day" or (as you're suggesting @kurama) "they'd have to remake it for it to be watchable today"...
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Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 6:48 AM
For me, it wasn't really watchable when it aired. The second couple was the best part with Kim Bum and Kim So-Eun.
The story is what is but the Thai version showed it was possible to make it a good drama.
My issue is always the same, I have a second lead syndrom. But it's not my fault the writer of the manga changed the main lead to please the readers.
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Neolttwigi
January 14, 2024 at 1:20 PM
So much vibe over this show, I started watching it and got half an episode in and hard stopped... Even me back in the day would have hated it.
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9 Bunny Sonaki
January 14, 2024 at 6:28 AM
You are beautiful
I would keep the same premise but make the male lead more nunaced and less arrogant or annoying. I would remove the aunt and tone down the celebrity mother and the wicked SFL. Unfortunately, the three boys falling for our dear ko mi-nyo is significant to the plot so I will keep it.
Secret Garden
I will remove the chaebol mother as she is on my top list on worst mothers and it doesn't help that the actor got cast in that role in 3 dramas. Instead of 20 episodes, 16 is enough and I might as will remove the father's accident and the amnesia trope.
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 3:03 PM
So Secret Garden is interesting. My wish is to have all the MIL scene chopped off mercilessly, condense the series to 16 episodes and remove some of that the second couple and tsundere musician’s scenes and it would be perfect for me.
What makes it special for me is the sheer creativeness with situations, humor and smart dialogue, even the overall cheesiness and campiness, it all works for me. Even the jerk ML works for me because the source of his jerkiness was his total ignorance and throughout the series he was honest with our heroine about who he is and etc.
I actually hope they don’t ever remake it cause unless it’s written by the same author, that dialogue won’t be topped off, imo. I’m fine with skipping all the screechy ML scenes.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
January 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM
I'm still in love with Lee Hong Gi (FT Island)!
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10 zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 6:32 AM
Queen In-Hyun's Man (2012) has actually held up quite well and people are still watching and loving it today. That's because the basic premise is surprisingly still fresh and the story overall is terrific. Plus, the chemistry was fire. BUT it could be even better with some modernization in characterizations. The fact that it has not been ripped off already is kind of amazing.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 8:26 AM
Excuse you, QIHM is flawlessly perfect! What's there to modernize - smartphone brand?))) Or, heavens forbid, making FL the reincarnation on ML's late Joseon wife? Because that's exactly the kind of "modernization" kdramas are into lately.
Btw, it was sorta
ripped offused as inspiration - once by the same writer in W and then in LIVE UP TO YOUR NAME, both of which were good dramas... just not AS good overall. And I'm pretty sure there was somecrappyforeign remake not so long ago... Maybe even more than one, idk.Required fields are marked *
zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 8:55 AM
😀 I would definitely agree with you that QIHM is better than W and LUTYN! I wasn't thinking about anything as dramatic as reincarnation, etc. I was mostly thinking of modernizing the sets, props, costumes, music, cinematography style etc. More like a remodel than a remake.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 9:16 AM
Hmmm... Perhaps an increased budget wouldn't hurt, esp for hanboks, but I still think it was not one of those dramas truly held back by its moderate production cost. Like fashion was genuinely good for the time period - FL's awards ceremony dress was gorgeous, for example. Action scenes looked fine. Camerawork and CGI had its moments. OST - I love it to this day.
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zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 9:57 AM
There was an epilogue?!!
Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 10:24 AM
@zindigo oooh, I feel like a Santa
for mischievous kids onlyrn, this is awesome)))More like an extended version of the last scene (the one before ending credits). Enjoy: https://youtu.be/_yw5Cw_tXSs?si=-PvPkxQz7oybb6Lq&t=304
zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 1:00 PM
@gikata
1) Whoa....!
2) Whoa... that same line about coming back after a year because they were "called" was just used again in Park's Marriage Contract...
Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 1:04 PM
@zindigo for real? Lmao, trust kdramas to never let any good trope or idea go to waste)))
zindigo
January 14, 2024 at 1:24 PM
@gikata They never suspected that one day there would be an army of international fans dissecting every element of every production, comparing and contrasting ad naseum decades into the future 😂😂😂
Saddramalama
January 17, 2024 at 7:43 AM
Have you seen the Japanese Blu-ray version?
Because that print is visually stunning, parts of it almost luminous.
Also, you want to change the music? The main songs belong to that show, they're instantly identifiable. Sure the entire OST is not full of hits, but the show clearly had signature refrains and weighted its background scores with other drama elements taking precidence.
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technicat
January 14, 2024 at 10:45 AM
It's been over ten years? Wow, that show still feels recent to me.
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11 john
January 14, 2024 at 6:50 AM
Ruler of Your Own World (2002)
It had a lot going on. Ex-con tries to go straight after he sees what harm his thieving has done. Lots of material . I like the original as it is, I’m afraid a new one might get gooned up. 😂
It might benefit from a new modern look, but leave the story alone ! 😂
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technicat
January 14, 2024 at 10:48 AM
I love that show but can't imagine different leads. Maybe a sequel, where are they now?
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12 Blue (@mayhemf)
January 14, 2024 at 7:10 AM
Goong, definitely Goong. But with better written second leads. And better clothes for the FL 😅
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Gum Shoe
January 14, 2024 at 7:59 AM
I am in the camp against this remake. I think the original Goong, flaws and all, was like lightning in a bottle and when the things that hit, like the chemistry between Ju Ji Hoon and Yoon Eun Hye, hit hard and are imprinted in people’s memory and hearts. For example, the kiss scene in the crowd is so iconic and would be hard to recreate the magic. I feel a remake would have to be completely reimagined (maybe like the Leo DeCaprio Great Gatsby) or else it would fall into the trap of always being in dialogue of comparison. Having rewatched Goobg recently, there are a lot of annoying flaws, but the magic still holds.
Also, I think that the FL clothes for the most part are still beautiful—especially the hanbok inspired ones. The ML and SML clothes on the other hand are definitely of their (or maybe no) time, but are worth a good groan (why so many polka dots and bib-like looks, Shin?).
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13 CasualDramaFan
January 14, 2024 at 7:45 AM
Well, I am not into faithful remake. I need a twist, retelling. Obviously problematic element must not be there.
How about gender bent modern Secret Garden? I would love to see the female lead pulling off those hand-made Italian sparkly suite.
Boys over flower and heirs should never get remakes
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Bunny Sonaki
January 14, 2024 at 7:47 AM
Already on new Secret Garden ship. Those tracksuits were iconic indeed
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 3:16 PM
I agree with boys over flowers ... but how do you mean gender bent Secret Garden? I mean, we had a boy in glittery suit, which is something you see far less than girls in sparkles. And then we had a girl in a boy's body, not liking those suits at all, but wearing them because she had to.
So ... what you wanted to see was a girls body with a boy in it, a boy who felt really uncomfortable with her clothes?
Or would you gender bend even more ...
There's a completely wonderful 12th Night staging which is all male like it was intended to (women not allowed on stage) originally.
Johnny Flynn played Viola, and never have I seen such a sympathetic rendering of a young woman trying to act like a man. A girl you couldn't help but like, an intelligent girl in a desperate fix, with an edge of despair, funny, but not goofy.
There's a gif for you here:
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They had opened up for buying seats on the stage after tickets had been sold quickly, so I was so lucky to sit there smack at the stage.
The DVD is great! but of course not compared to that live experience.
Well, but that doubly gender bent story - is that what you mean?
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 9:17 PM
I think casual fan meant a chaebol jerk woman switching places with a spunky male stuntman. That already sounds funny to me.
I don’t think casual fan meant bending genders as in making transgender or nonbinary or queer Secret Garden, unless I misunderstood. I don’t think Korean society is ready for this even though they are generally very accepting of body-switching and cross-dressing genres. (Mr Queen is as far as a genre can go I think.) Secret Garden was actually surprising for its time in introducing a “serious” gay character (albeit tortured) so there’s that. I personally don’t want SG ever remade.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 12:37 AM
That would, to me, mean a less surprising story; a vain rich female with bad taste, and a courageous and well-trained stuntman?
It seems like characters we have met so many times ...
What could be fun - but only if the actor played it so well that it actually became graceful and a bit touching - would be if a girl who didn't normally have time and certainly not money to wear fancy dresses, took the chance now that she was in a chaebol's shoes, to borrow or buy beautiful expensive dresses and try them of, giving them a swirl in front of the mirror.
And the boy spirit would be furious about what she did to his rumour, but ...
I am imagining further now - he could learn from her pleasure and sensuality after having seen his body in soft silks and fluttering skirts, and maybe landing back in his body a couple of times wearing those things.
But as I said, it would only be fun if the male actor could pull off "pretty, sweet and graceful".
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14 Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 8:44 AM
Nothing really -
I hate remakes with passionif I like the drama enough, I can easily overlook outdated fashion and cinematography, that's not a problem at all. I'd love subs/availability revamp for many older shows tho... and probably recast some sageuk "young" heroes with a more age appropriate actors, at least for that part of the story where they're supposed to be literal teens.Required fields are marked *
Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 10:32 AM
Bring back the sageuk subs by Mr. X! (Written In The Heavens Subbing Squad)
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wonhwa
January 14, 2024 at 11:56 AM
I'm going to be contrarian on this and state that I actually hated his sageuk subs - they were so deliberately archaic as to be often incomprehensible, and felt like they were written by someone who did not speak English as a first language.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 12:40 PM
Familiar nickname, but don't think I've seen many works of his to form an opinion...
Archaic wording never really phased me - I love learning new words through subs and as a now retired fansubber was once quite guilty of such subbing style myself))) Certain modern expressions have no place in sageuks - unless it's a parody ofc. As long as you don't go further than a few centuries back on retro speech it's fine.
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Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 1:32 PM
In the good old days of Dramafever most of the classic sageuks were subbed by Mr. X. I learned cool words like "pate", " vim," and "slattern". The subs also had explanations about historical customs, events, and persons.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 1:48 PM
I suppose it is a difference between Korean and English, a so-called "false friend" (a word or phrase that makes you believe you know how to use it) but I have noticed repeatedly that phrases with "than" lack their 2. degree adjective, or otherwise lack a part of how you make a comparison verbally.
Like "I am old than he" or "I would be happy than rich".
bong-soo
January 15, 2024 at 12:08 PM
A memory from watching CONSPIRACY IN THE COURT (2007) with subs by Mr. X (iirc).
It was sometime in 2018 and I still patronized the dark side (since taken the pledge not to) and upon (iirc again) @kiara’s recommendation I found and watched CONSPIRACY. It was very enjoyable (any Ahn Nae-sang fans out there?) but it was like taking a graduate level course in history with those subs in archaic english. I needed a dictionary at my side.
One scene which necessitated a turn to the dictionary is where a senior minister is meeting with other ministers (yes all with beards). He concludes the meeting by telling the others:
“Return to your ‘devoirs’.” Devoirs, say what?
Devoir is an old english work for ‘duty’.
He was telling the other ministers to get back to work!
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Snow Flower
January 15, 2024 at 1:04 PM
I watched Conspiracy in the recommendation of an old blog, Thundie's Prattle. This was my first and only time going to the dark side. I remember having to stop to look up words, but I thought the stylized archaic subs fit the drama well. I have been requesting it on Viki for years, but no luck...
wonhwa
January 15, 2024 at 2:37 PM
Yeah, I watched that one with those subs too. It felt like when my students pull fancy synonyms for common words out a thesaurus because they think it will make their papers sound impressive without really understanding their connotations. The results are often unintentionally hilarious. That being said, I'm fine with heightened language if it's actually good - I'm a theatre professor and I love directing and teaching Shakespeare.
kiara
January 15, 2024 at 8:42 PM
Haha, for real, we all needed a dictionary for MrX's subs. I miss WITHS2's sub-squad; they were the best!
Dramafever bought the rights to those older dramas, and they kept WITHS2's subs.
Before JB created Dramabeans, she was a member of the WITHS2 sub-squad alongside Thundie and MrX, etc. When they began blogging, MrX's blog was the go-to platform for sageuks and heavy dramas, Thundie's Prattle offered a variety of content, Dramabeans was mostly focused on rom-coms, and Koala's Playground was the place to go for C-dramas, etc. Unfortunately, all of them are now gone except for Koala's Playground.
wonhwa
January 15, 2024 at 8:50 PM
@kiara - yeah, Thundie's Prattle and Mr. X's various blogs (along with Dramabeans and Koala) were some of the first ones I stumbled upon when I started watching k-dramas. And I am grateful for the early fansubbing communities that made so many of those older dramas accessible to English-speaking audiences.
kiara
January 15, 2024 at 9:23 PM
@wonhwa,
MrX's various blogs, yes :). He was the history guru; I learned so much from him.
I, too, am forever grateful to them! They are irreplaceable in the K-drama community.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 15, 2024 at 11:32 PM
Thank you so much for starting this into the vault discussion about the sources of K-drama info and subs back in the days when subbed K dramas were so hard to come by. I am glad that I came late to the party for the ease of access but it sounds like it was a lot of fun back then despite the hassle factors.
Firewife5
January 14, 2024 at 12:01 PM
Yes! x100. Some of the sageuk subs now I actually reword in my head, lol!
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 11:56 AM
I hate if a remake is nothing but a condescendingly modern version of something, made "cool" in the way teenagers always think they have the only kind of cool that ever existed.
But! I love a different take on something. Sometimes it is that modern take on something that needed it all the time, one of those things where you always thought "if only they didn't ...", but a remake of a story could also just be a fun parallel version.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 12:47 PM
It depends. I'm mostly fine with stylized adaptations of classical literature, but when it comes to movies/dramas you've gotta be hella creative to make it work for me if I saw and liked original version first *shrugs* We've seen TONS of remakes and reboots of good old stuff lately. Do I REALLY need to trigger DB's filter with my non-sugarcoated honest opinion on 99,99% of these?
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 12:05 PM
For that reason, I also love sci-fi and fantasy, and I love seeing yet another staging of a favourite Shakespeare play, and it is also the reason we have 7-8 versions of The Magic Flute on DVD or Blue-ray in our house.
I would love the many versions of David Copperfield, my Dickens favourite, if they didn't stink so miserably until finally the version with Dev Patel came out a few years ago. I want a remake of that, same director, but in a miniseries. Because only problem with that version was that a couple of hours is not nearly enough.
And I want that director, Armando Iannucci, to remake a whole series of Dickens Classics in the same way. Noone has ever made Dickens as wild as he actually is before.
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Grand Sophy
January 14, 2024 at 12:28 PM
Yes! That was a great version. I'm in for the Iannucci Dickens Classics series!
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15 Quantum Nurse
January 14, 2024 at 9:02 AM
I would wish MBC/KBS/SBS to remake epic historical drama series "Toji or Land". It is such a beautiful epic story, and the historical value is priceless. The people in the story represent Korea from an undeveloped to a developed country and one of the superpower countries. In the book, Kim Hwan, the "stepbrother" of noble Choi Chi Soo, is very attractive and tall, the new cast should be physically attractive and fit. Also, character Bong Soon, the pansori singer, must be one of the leading characters since she suffers so much from childhood to adulthood as Choi Seo Hee's playmate and later Lee Sang Hyun's live-in companion. I would have these four characters as the main cast, Choi Seo Hee, Kim Gil Sang, Lee Sang Hyun and Bong Soon. They make "Toji/Land" so interesting. Thank you for reading my proposal.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 14, 2024 at 9:40 AM
It’s good to see you comment in the active posts we hope you will have fun🥳
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16 Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 10:12 AM
How about MiSa remake with a happy ending? These characters deserve a break...
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 10:31 AM
Wow, a great prompt for the next time - DIY ending for your love-hated drama! Or did we already have one? I remember the topic about good dramas with trash endings, but were we also asked to fix them while at it?
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Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 10:35 AM
MiSa original ending does make sense. It is just my wishful thinking that it ended differently.
But I would definitely change the outcome for the 2ML in Crash Landing On You.
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 12:50 PM
... I'd rather just kick the writer. That case angered me way too much to just let it go peacefully after a successful retcon.
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Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 1:36 PM
I still cannot bring myself to rewatch Crash Landing. I am even debating whether I should watch Queen Of Tears.
Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 1:54 PM
@snowflower that's much easier for me - I 300% certainly won't))) My personal list of "never ever again" writers is quite long honestly...
1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 6:53 PM
What is this drama?
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Snow Flower
January 14, 2024 at 7:16 PM
Mi Sa is "I'm Sorry I Love You"
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 10:09 PM
Ah - it’s been in my watchlist on Viki forever! I may have to rethink. When I am faced with only very uninteresting newer shows, or I’m watching a one that releases 2 episodes a week, I watch oldies. I started watching kdramas about 4-5 years ago so there are a lot to see that I missed first time around!
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jillian
January 15, 2024 at 4:41 AM
I remember watching MiSa and crying buckets. I also want a happy ending for our ML.
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17 OldLawyer
January 14, 2024 at 10:59 AM
The 2009 Weekender SMILE YOU would be a good one, although it would be hard to replace the chemistry of all of the characters. The only really great successful re-make of a Kdrama that I have seen is ONE PERCENT OF SOMETHING which was the re-make of ONE PERCENT OF ANYTHING.
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PYC
January 15, 2024 at 4:47 AM
On Smile You, I don’t think anyone can replicate the loveliness of Jung Kyung-Ho.
But the remake of One Percent Of Something could certainly claim the ‘Best Remake’ title.
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OldLawyer
January 15, 2024 at 9:05 AM
You are probably right about Jung Kyung-ho. You could say much the same thing for the secondary couple: They fell in love for real, got married and have two children.
ONE PERCENT OF SOMETHING really is that rarest of re-makes.
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18 technicat
January 14, 2024 at 10:59 AM
I'm going to say Vampire Prosecutor just because I want to see more vampire prosecutor.
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Grand Sophy
January 14, 2024 at 12:31 PM
I just want to be able to watch Vampire Prosecutor. It's not streaming anywhere lawfully that I can see, and the D****cool quality is terrible.
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cozybooks
January 17, 2024 at 9:55 PM
Lol this. I second and third this comment. I miss that show haha
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19 DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 11:51 AM
How about Boys over Flowers ... but without tsundere?
I haven't seen it because I don't think I would be charmed by the ML(s), but how would it work if they were not terrible, sexist and violent boys?
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Gikata
January 14, 2024 at 12:53 PM
It won't. That plot is the quintessential products of its era and smoothing its edges would kill the whole thing with fire.
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 2:52 PM
Oh they will remake it like gazillion time. It’s going to be a western equivalent of Spiderman, make my words.
And each progressive version is going to be worse and then all the Beanies will be fondly remembering the OG version… which is unthinkable right now.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 14, 2024 at 3:18 PM
I quite like Tom Holland, to be honest!
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 8:53 PM
Oh me too! And some successive versions of Spiderman were actually a lot better than the OG. BOF was/is a getaway drama for many people that gets them hooked on kdrama. I cannot imagine that such a powerful IP won’t get remade in the future. But there’s a reason it’s a “getaway” drama. I can’t even explain it but there’s no drama that is so K as BOF, and it would be hard to remake it without making it so embarrassingly cringe. So I cannot also imagine the remake being “better” than original without actually totally reimagining it with the modern sensibilities. But then it would be the “getaway” drama as it is.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 12:21 AM
I was thinking of someone
-totally reimagining it with the modern sensibilities
that sometimes makes for very good material.
For example, I love the "Magic FLute" where Monostatos is not only white; he is dressed like someone from Mozart's time, made-up with thick layers of white in his face, powdered wig, and dingy white lace.
So he is disgusting, dirty, and in whiteface. A completely meaningful answer to the traditional blackface of that role.
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/uMpz06MJTxp6oOz1scq3hfJWSC2.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TKZbTVp5G_A/TXV8whdbbgI/AAAAAAAABZA/nLB4yBJk0u8/s1600/Dibujo3.jpg
OldLawyer
January 15, 2024 at 9:25 AM
I love DK-dramas comment. There is nothing about the character of Monostatos that would suggest that he would be a black man and no reason to make him one.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 10:17 AM
@oldawyer Thank you!
Actually, he sings at some point something along the lines of that Pamina doesn't like him "Because a black person is ugly" (Weil ein Schwarzer Hässlich ist). I guess we can assume that Emmanuel Schikaneder wasn't free of racism.
But it's such a lovely opera - I love that someone kind of answers back to the racism and points back at a figure dressed like Schikaneder for that matter could have dressed. Of all solutions I have seen, that is the best.
Later this year, I am going to watch this:
https://cdn.kglteater.dk/globalassets/det-sker/sason-2023-2024/galleri/trylleflojten/trylleflojte23_21.jpg
OldLawyer
January 15, 2024 at 10:33 AM
I guess it has been too long since I watched THE MAGIC FLUTE (my favorite Mozart Opera being THE MARRIAGE OF FIGARO) so I had actually forgotten that line.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 11:13 AM
I was teaching a class about that opera (just bits) and we used annotated school material versions of the text.
THis is so crazy: In the notes the two teachers who had made the annotations said that Monostatos might seem like a racist stereotype (or they didn't use that word, they said it something like that the villain was black might seem racist) but it wasn't, they said because ... wait for it ...
He was also sometimes goofy!
Well that solves that problem, I guess! Nothing to see hear, all clear!
Grown-ups wrote that in the late eighties ... It's hard for me to imagine - and I'm sure they really thought there was no problem!
Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 9:26 PM
I think the Thai version showed it was possible to make a good version of this story.
But a remake should take the manga as a source and not the Kdrama. A remake of an adaptation is never good.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 12:23 AM
How did they make it differently? I mean, the main differences?
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Kurama
January 15, 2024 at 12:47 AM
They kept the story but the ML had a real redemption arc.
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DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 2:55 AM
Sounds more satisfying. And, kind of ... with a look from past to future, know what I mean?
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Kurama
January 15, 2024 at 4:27 AM
Hana yori dango is a pure shojo. So you need to accept this to enjoy the story. There will always have a cringey side but it's why it's fun!
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
January 15, 2024 at 8:13 AM
But you just said yourself the Thai version was good - so even within the framework, it's possible to make a nicer version.
OldLawyer
January 15, 2024 at 9:21 AM
The Thai version is far nicer but perhaps loses some of the flavor of the Japanese original. Which is even better than the Korean re-make that was BOYS OVER FLOWERS.
20 john
January 14, 2024 at 11:51 AM
Sandglass (1995)
This would benefit from the technology upgrade.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
January 15, 2024 at 9:21 AM
Absolutely! Also, my pick. Yes to the technology update. It could benefit from a more modern approach, too.
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21 kiara
January 14, 2024 at 11:52 AM
Leave my sageuks alone. Even the crappy, outdated, and over-rated ones. They are all sentimental to me. 😂
Like @miso2019 said, "you can't really recreate the charm of the era or how excellent certain performances were."
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22 wonhwa
January 14, 2024 at 11:53 AM
I think the only kdrama where the production quality actively got in the way of my ability to engage with the show was Sandglass, as some scenes were so dark and grainy it was literally hard to make out what was happening. Given the caliber of the production team on that one, I might settle for a really cleaned up print of the show over an actual remake though (assuming that's even possible with old video footage - not sure if it was the norm to shoot TV shows on film stock in Korea during the 90's).
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
January 15, 2024 at 9:22 AM
Also my pick. Those dark scenes are VERY frustrating!
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kiara
January 15, 2024 at 10:13 PM
I'm up for clean-up, but NO to remake. SANDGLASS was a one-of-a-kind special. I think we discussed this before here:
https://www.dramabeans.com/2016/07/sequel-to-blockbuster-k-drama-classic-sandglass-in-the-works/
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23 technicat
January 14, 2024 at 12:51 PM
I was going to list shows that had known sexual offenders in the cast, but I just did a search and it's a much longer list than I thought.
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miso
January 14, 2024 at 1:12 PM
There are some fairly famous dramas I haven't watched for this very reason.
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Maelstrom
January 18, 2024 at 4:04 PM
Mind sharing? :) I'd like to avoid these dramas myself.
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miso
January 19, 2024 at 1:13 AM
Well the filmography of people like Kang Ji-hwan to begin with. Man's a Baeksang winner but nothing will make me watch those shows.
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24 redfox
January 14, 2024 at 2:34 PM
Last Scandal. Loved it, but it is definitely outdated in style
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bbstl 🧹
January 14, 2024 at 2:47 PM
That would be a good one. Also 9 End, 3 Outs.
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john
January 14, 2024 at 3:06 PM
While looking up Last Scandal , I read about Choi Jin-sil , a sad tale. 😪 RIP
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 14, 2024 at 3:54 PM
I just looked her up after your comment, the poor woman’s life story reads like a drama, so sad.
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 7:26 PM
I just did as well. How sad - and yes it would be a good drama. How about the awful company sho sued her for contract violations for appearing in public with a bruised face after domestic violence - and the Supreme Court upholding that! How sad.
I wish portals nowadays would not allow public comments on news, as people pile on so evilly!
This is a sad story. Now I want to watch all her dramas and support her son who became an idol!😭
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 14, 2024 at 8:30 PM
I know that incident cut to the bone because of the level of victim blaming by the company and the law, her husband wanting to reclaim the children so he could access their inheritance and her urn being stolen were the three that outraged me the most.
We see how women are treated in dramas like Girls generation 1979 and Something in the rain but her life story reflects the harsh reality that even with all that fame she was still powerless to address the disrespect and mistreatment.
bbstl 🧹
January 14, 2024 at 10:45 PM
Yes, it was horrifying at the time it happened. You were sure that Korea would take steps to prevent such situations in the future and, … here we still are …
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 15, 2024 at 12:24 AM
I know it’s just awful and I worry for her son entering the business too. The attitude towards the entertainers seems to treat them as a business expense rather than a person.
25 bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 2:48 PM
My kdrama tickle bone is telling me as soon as SUCH remake will happen, it will be a deluge of remakes, and — ok I’m not a proverbial k-shaman but — you’ll see, it’ll happen in our lifetime!
My Lovely Kim Sam Soon is just PRIME for a modern re-make. She was like chubby 30, and as far as I know all the chubby 30 years old around me didn’t even have a situationship in their lifetimes, let alone worry about being “late” with all the matrimony stuff on modern market. Plus all the chubby young people that I know are very pretty and they know it and they flaunt it and they don’t worry about this.
Make Sam Soon like 40 or 50, give her a man 10-20 years younger and explore all the “controversial” (“problematic”?) issues around it, and damn I’ll watch it, hot mama!
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 7:05 PM
This would be great! Submit it to the story gods!
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bbstl 🧹
January 14, 2024 at 8:40 PM
Unbelievably, MNIKSS is 20 years old this year. There really should be an anniversary celebration at least.
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 9:05 PM
Omg! Unbelievable! I watched it for the first time in 2016-ish and I remember I thought that drama was made in like late aughts or teens, lol. I understand now that for its age it was groundbreaking but back then I was a bit weirded out but all the spectacle about her age and supposedly much younger suitor. I still remember how shocked I was when they kept pointing out the actress was fat, I was like, what, what?! I was much younger than the FL and even then I was like, look, look, she’s very young and normal looking, WTF?! Good times watching that show. Good times. 💗
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Kurama
January 14, 2024 at 9:28 PM
Oh, the ML without his flashy shirts? I take it!
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:49 AM
You're really selling it. 🫶
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26 faithwithme
January 14, 2024 at 5:35 PM
we already have remake from old drama and it was positively accepted, 1% of Anything. Originally acted by Kang Dong Won and Kim Jung Hwa, the remake by Jeon So Min and Ha Seok Jin. The remake definitely changed the negative aspect of the original and make it 2x times better.
right now, i wish they could remake Worlds Within or Autumn in My Heart. Double the pain, everyone?! :0
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bomibeans
January 14, 2024 at 8:27 PM
1% of Anything with So Min. Sigh, I remember it and that’s saying something! Reminds me to rewatch it. I never even knew it was a remake, wow.
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faithwithme
January 14, 2024 at 10:11 PM
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27 LaurenSophie
January 14, 2024 at 6:14 PM
"Princess Hours." I remember reading a long time ago that a re-boot was planned, but I guess it was abandoned. This is a shame because with some modern tweaks, a tighter script, and charming leads, this drama's core story could still resonate.
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28 1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 7:03 PM
Id love a remake of My Girl. I like your tweaks above. I actually like rewatching parts of this drama at times - it’s a “skimmer” for me, as I love baby Lee Joongki, some of the scamming parts and Lee Dong Wooks gullibility.
A lot of the dramas around this period could get a modern remake by eliminating the clingy annoying SFL/possessive SML and the overprotective, grabby, sexist men in general!
I wouldn’t like seeing any classic Sageuks that I’ve watched remade. They are unique really.
I often watch dramas and think — this would be better with a different actor, a different vibe, actors who can act, or a couple who actually have chemistry! So I’m all for remaking these super fun old ones with tweets!
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 7:03 PM
Tweeks not tweets!
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1MoreDrama
January 14, 2024 at 7:04 PM
OMG what is wrong with me…tweaks not tweeks or tweets!
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 14, 2024 at 8:55 PM
No worries. After a while Beans learn to read all typos. 🧐
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29 Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
January 14, 2024 at 9:05 PM
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
January 14, 2024 at 9:07 PM
The only time I’d think of something needing a remake or changes is when I feel the vibe of a character is off from the casting choices made which then impedes in the flow and plot of the drama. I can’t say I’ve encountered much of this in Kdramaland, but more so in Cdramaland. What I WOULD have liked to have changed out for older Kdramas is some of the writing—and ergo, some of the scriptwriters?? *Braces for impact to be whacked in the head by lovers of Kdrama scriptwriters*— because after so many years, I actually hit a wall with Kdrama plots all feeling the same (mostly involving a “rich vs. poor” dynamic, and it would 99% be the FL being the poor one being picked on—which ugh, but I guess it’s to be expected since S.Korea is such a heavy, heavy patriarchal society), or just delivered differently)
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30 jillian
January 15, 2024 at 3:27 AM
Beautiful Days with Lee Byung Hun and Choi Ji Woo. Its the first kdrama that I watched from what I remember. It does need some updating but the story is still good. A poor orphan who strives to work so can take her sister home with her. There was a misunderstanding and she lost her. She meets a music store executive eho has a chip on his shoulder and his musical producer brothe both of course like our FL and she got stuck in a love triangle. For me, the original intent of the story was better. It got changed midway due to fans's opinion.
What I would change from it is to give the FL her own agency. She is too timid and have no aspirations in her life except to find her sister. She got along better with the younger brother but is attracted to the tsundere older brother. Throughout the show she got lead around and grabbed by the wrist by the brothers which annoyed me so much. If this gets a remake, I would love for her to have her own dream. And also for the two brothers ro be worthy enough to have her in their lives.
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PYC
January 15, 2024 at 4:59 AM
I love Beautiful Days and its magic in my view came from Lee Byung Hun. Apparently, he was more like a 2ML not supposed to get the girl but his charisma and acting charmed everyone to change the course (much like BYJ in Hotelier).
Not keen to have a remake unless another equally charismatic guy comes along.
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31 PYC
January 15, 2024 at 5:07 AM
Welcome back @Mary!!
I recently bumped into a My Girl clip that ended up a sporadic rewatch with as much laughter as the first time. It still delights…
But I wouldn’t mind a re-make if we have a writer who can be as witty as the original one. Actually, I’d warn Lee Dong Wook to repeat as the ML with now better acting skills and more mature charm. Back then, I found him dull and Lee Jun-ki’s character annoying while LDH winning all the way on the other hand.
As entitled, the girl to play My Girl will be the key.
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PYC
January 15, 2024 at 5:08 AM
I’d ‘want’ Lee Dong Wook to repeat…
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:44 AM
I want Lee Dong Wook too!! ❤
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:45 AM
My Girl is definitely one of those anytime, anywhere kind of dramas. One that can get you out of any king of slump. 😊
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January 16, 2024 at 9:46 AM
* kind of slump.
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32 bong-soo
January 15, 2024 at 3:18 PM
My suggestion: remake or reboot of tvN’s JOSEON X-FILES/SECRET INVESTIGATION RECORD (2010). I watched it in 2017 and it was my first Kim Ji-hoon drama where he played the Korean Mulder. It was set during the reign of King Gwanghae (1608-1623).
KJH was great. I would bring the whole cast back (those still with us). I would even reuse the same scripts. The No. 1 change is that I would record the drama on film not videotape because that is what it looked like I was watching. I am sure it wasn’t shot on videotape (that probably had gone the way of the dodo bird years before) but it was so dark and annoying to watch.
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john
January 15, 2024 at 3:31 PM
Yay JOSEON X-FILES/SECRET INVESTIGATION RECORD (2010)
How we wished for a second season of this show back in the day.
They could absolutely do a new version, of course the script would have to be top notch or why bother .
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bong-soo
January 15, 2024 at 3:47 PM
John, lol, maybe I have dated myself again. Is film still a recording medium in television dramas?
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john
January 15, 2024 at 3:58 PM
I really can’t say if people still shoot film. I’ll guess most are now recorded digitally, there is no film ,straight to a drive or card . They can do all sorts of sorcery digitally.
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john
January 15, 2024 at 4:00 PM
I hate “dark-vision” with a passion. I used to joke that they were pinching pennies by not using lights .
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wonhwa
January 15, 2024 at 8:54 PM
"The monsters will be scarier if the viewers can't see them . . . "
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wonhwa
January 15, 2024 at 8:53 PM
Omg, that was another show where every shot was so dark, foggy, and shaky that it drove me nuts. In this case though, I think it was an attempt to be "artistic" as opposed to not have access to decent cameras/film stock/digital recording technology. And yeah, it was another show that clearly wanted a second season and never got one.
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33 OAsia
January 16, 2024 at 5:05 AM
1. Sweet 18 (2004). I would really like to watch a contemporary drama in which a woman, almost 20, marries a man 10 years her senior, a lawyer. I wonder what scenario could be written about such a relationship nowadays. After all, there are women who get married early and are not at all unhappy about it. Not all women think about getting married until they turn 30, or they don't want marriage at all. In my opinion, it would be a challenge to mix a romantic comedy with a theme from 2004. But I would really like to see something like that.
2. I would like to finally see a new version of Que Sera, Sera (2007), which has been talked about for years, but there is no concrete news. A story about toxic people in love, far from ideal, selfish, making mistakes, and experiencing many changes in their lives. Something like that I would like to watch.
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34 🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 16, 2024 at 9:40 AM
Apart from a Full House update I would also want a Full House Take 2 remake, preferably with Lee Jae-wook and Go Youn-jung.
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35 Tizzy
January 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM
My Princess would make a good remake. It started well but it went downhill after she came a princess. With better writing, it will make a very interesting story.
Same goes with Personal Taste</b.
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Helenya
January 16, 2024 at 9:53 PM
Personal Taste was on my re-do list, but more because of the homophobia. The challenge is how to make one lead seem ‘sexually safe’ for our other lead without resorting to homophobia or some sort of ableism…
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36 vienibenmio
January 17, 2024 at 8:13 AM
IMO the actual drama execution was a garbage fire, but I think The Color of Woman had an interesting setup and could have been really good had they not made certain choices. Soo, that one's got my vote.
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37 SooHa
January 31, 2024 at 9:28 PM
Just rewatch “Lovers In Paris” and I still love it. It just some classic cliche old style kdrama but hey, we can polish it right 😂
Especially the ending. Scratch that and make a new one 😂
I really adore Park Shin Yang that time and he’s my first actor that I fell in love. He played the role so well and as much as many people doesn’t like the FL, they really have great chemistry.
This drama also have a catchy OST, when you heard it then you know that’s Lovers In Paris. Like that song in Goblin and DOTS.
It also have famous line that the repeatedly shows as quiz in variety show. You’ll know when it said “Egi, ga ja”
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Kurama
February 1, 2024 at 1:02 AM
The OST is still iconic! It was funny to hear it in A Good Day to Be a Dog.
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