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Captivating the King: Episodes 3-4

We knew this time would come, but boy does it hit hard. Our heroes — and, to be fair, their enemies in turn — suffer one terrible blow after another. By the end of these two episodes, our characters, their relationships, and the kingdom they call home have all been changed forever.

 
EPISODES 3-4

Captivating the King: Episodes 3-4

The long-awaited mongwoo arrives, but Myung-ha interrupts Hee-soo and Jin-han’s meeting. Myung-ha claims “Mong-woo” (the only name by which Jin-han knows Hee-soo, whom he still believes to be a man) promised to play baduk with him today, and since he’s holding her secret over her, Hee-soo can’t contradict him. Jin-han can tell something’s off, but takes Mong-woo’s word for it and leaves, more than a little jealous that Myung-ha knows more about Mong-woo than he does.

Myung-ha scolds Hee-soo for risking her and her father’s safety, wondering aloud if she rejected him because she likes Jin-han better. Hee-soo sets the record straight — her dislike for Myung-ha is his own fault. But Myung-ha holds all the leverage here. He threatens to out her to her father if she continues the Mong-woo masquerade. Then he tells Jin-han that Mong-woo had to leave urgently and indefinitely.

While the three stew over what just went down, a political crisis sets off a devastating chain of events. Against Lord Kang’s advice, the king previously sent a spy to Ming to reassure them Joseon was only complying with Qing demands under compulsion. But the spy has been caught, and the only way to placate Qing’s enraged rulers is to surrender the person who commissioned him. The king may have given the order, but Lord Kang carried it out, so he volunteers to surrender himself and bear the punishment on the king’s behalf. Both the king and Jin-han try to talk him out of it. But there isn’t any better option, so Lord Kang is carted away in disgrace — even though pretty much everyone knows he’s innocent.

Hyun-bo seizes the perfect opportunity to get revenge on Mong-woo and Hong-jang (the latter of whom is his own sister, by the way). He presents select facts — the spy and Jin-han visited Hong-jang’s gibang around the same time — and lets Minister Kim draw the obvious but incorrect conclusion. (The actual connection is that the spy assisted Hee-soo in repatriating captives, but this goes undiscovered for now.)

Minister Kim rounds up Hong-jang and a bunch of baduk players and tortures them for information on Mong-woo. When Hee-soo gets wind of it, she runs straight over as Mong-woo, intending to prove the others’ innocence. So, naturally, Minister Kim orders she be tortured into testifying against Jin-han. They’re interrupted by Jin-han himself, but Minister Kim has the king’s approval, so the best Jin-han can do in the moment is delay the torture while he talks to the king. As he leaves, he promises to save Mong-woo.

By now, Minister Kim has convinced the king that Jin-han and Lord Kang conspired to deceive and overthrow him. When the king comes at him with a sword, Jin-han wrests it away and turns it back on him. He only does it in self-defense and swears he’s never plotted treason, but raising a weapon against the king kind of nullifies that claim. So he drops to his knees and appeals to their brotherhood — surely there must be some way to prove his devotion. But the king only wants Jin-han dead. Also, he never loved Jin-han; he only pretended to so their mother wouldn’t deny him the throne. Or so he claims.

Crushed, Jin-han agrees to let the king kill him. But just as the king raises the sword again, he collapses, vomiting blood. He’s been poisoned. As he dies in Jin-han’s arms, he calls Jin-han his brother once more and gives three commands: 1) find and punish his murderer, 2) help his son ascend the throne, and 3) trust no one. But when Jin-han relays the king’s last words to the court, he amends them: “The king entrusted me with the nation’s future.” Still, he adds (sincerely) that if even one person disapproves, he won’t ascend the throne.

Minister Kim makes it very clear he disapproves, but he knows Jin-han will have anticipated that, so he and Hyun-bo return to their original plan of coercing Mong-woo to name Jin-han as the traitor behind the spy. Myung-ha convinces them to let him handle it, and when Hee-soo refuses to give a false testimony, he writes one for her. Minister Kim smugly calls an assembly to confront Jin-han, only to watch the whole plot fall apart when Hyun-bo turns sides and testifies that Minister Kim’s accusation is false. Jin-han gives Minister Kim one chance to confess and be pardoned. Minister Kim refuses, and Jin-han kills him right then and there.

Captivating the King: Episodes 3-4

And that’s how Grand Prince Jin-han becomes KING LEE IN. He spares Myung-ha’s life at the queen’s request, but sends him to work far away. In a cruel bit of irony, Myung-ha’s choice to forge Mong-woo’s confession has doomed Hee-soo, as she and the other prisoners are now accused of conspiring with Minister Kim to bring Lee In down. Either Lee In believes this is true, or he lets himself believe it so he can do what has to be done — either way, he leaves the prisoners’ fate to the judges to decide, ignoring Hee-soo’s plea to at least pardon the severely beaten Hong-jang. They’re sentenced to three years of hard labor and exile, and Hong-jang passes in her sleep while they’re en route.

As soon as she can, Hee-soo escapes. But she can’t outrun the guards, who strike her across the back with a sword and send her tumbling down a waterfall. She survives, barely. Remembering Lee In’s words about watching his fellow captives suffer in Qing, she vows to make sure he never forgets the stench of innocent blood.

Three years later, Lee In is a sad, lonely king with a reputation for reveling in debauchery. He’s tired of playing baduk alone, so he asks for a baduk teacher — anyone can apply, as long as they aren’t already a public official. And guess who shows up to try for the job? That’s right: Mong-woo.

Captivating the King: Episodes 3-4

Oof. First of all, Jo Jung-seok and Choi Dae-hoon killed me (no pun intended) with that final confrontation scene of theirs. Second, I kept trying to guess what disaster might turn our leads against each other, but I really didn’t expect it to be like this. Lee In’s descent into ruthlessness was as heartbreaking as it was swift. And while I can’t say I wasn’t low-key impressed that he actually killed Minister Kim, it hurt to see him turn so cold and break his own heart in the process.

Shout out to Myung-ha, though, for so spectacularly shooting himself in the foot. Not only did he, as Hee-soo herself put it, prove she was right to dislike him from the start, but he also got her branded a criminal and, to top it off, helped get his father killed. I’m sure he’ll be back to wreak more havoc later, but amidst all the heaviness this week — and aside from the horrific impact his failure had on Hong-jang and Hee-soo — it was at least a tiny bit satisfying to watch his meddling blow up in his face.

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The show really captivated me. Am not a fan of historical or angst but this one has something really has something electric avout it. The FL who I normally find just ok has really upped the game in this one. And JJS is always amazing man his scene with the king. Acting masterclass.

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So funny story: it's been a journey for me to like JJS. I first watched him in Jealousy Incarnate and had second lead syndrome really bad. So bad I dropped the show and didn't give JJS a chance to win me over. It took me years to watch Oh my ghostess and be like "hm. Maybe?" And then the movie Exit where I had to admit I like his acting just fine if he was in a role I liked. Hospital Playlist made me realize I had to get over my grudge that he took the girl in Jealousy Incarnate. But now.. here.. I am blown away. Just absolutely amazed. So well done.

The funniest thing is it's never been about his acting. I've always thought he acted fine, and that's what eventually broke me down and made me realize I really enjoyed watching him act. I was just being petty because I wanted Jealousy Incarnate to go a different route than it did and didn't realize it was a 20 (24?) Episode drama until episode 13. So I thought my second lead ship was coming true. Welp. I'm glad I'm here for Captivating the King though, because I am HOOKED.

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I watched JJS in ytblss and instantly fell in love. His smile made me smile. Jealously incarnate i fell madly inlove with him maybe the one drama where I could truly look past the toxic stuff to actually root for the lead pair. The second lead was an objectively better choice but i could never even consider him. And chemostry bw ghj and jjs was spot on. Am still swooning at the kiss. He was mesmerizing in that one. Omg and two cops are just lovely. I even watched nokudu for him though i hate historicals. Hp 1 and 2 just made him my favorite of all time. So yes am a stan.

He is just someone you watch and instantly connect with. Its not the looks it's the way he gets into the character. When he smiles I smile when he tears up I want to tear up too.

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I discovered him in What's Up with Kim Ji-Won. They were great in this drama! He was a supporting character but way more interesting and funny than the ML.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOuRu2mpQbY

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Yes! What's Up was his first drama. I originally watched for Lim Ju-hwan, but Cho Jeong-seok's character was funny and cute.

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I love What’s Up for almost everything. Watching JJS’ stage fright and his angelic singing is such a treat.

But my first JJS drama is YTBISS - his pairing with IU is so cute. It’s never about his look but how he brings a character alive and all the right emotion going into it. By the time of HP 1 and 2, I was thinking how he can ‘best’ himself again.

Looks like I have to break my ‘no sageuk’ rule to watch how he best himself again.

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You just had to watch The King 2 Hearts.
No way you would have not fallen in love with him there!

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I actually have a good friend who is watching that right now, and we bonded over our JJS dramas. She just finished Two Cops, too.

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"The show really captivated me. "

Apart from a fact that the production is really good and all elements are threaded seamlessly (dialogue, music, editing, etc), there's such a meditative quality about this show, isn't there? It TAKES ITS TIME to tell the story, and at times I felt impatient but I never felt like ff through the last episodes. As an example, Hongjang's dying scene was so well-shot, so respectfully quiet, without a shred of sound or music but so atmospheric, brimming with tragic finality. I don't know what I am even telling with all these superlatives here, but I cannot tell how much I re-watched that scene.

"Captivated" is indeed the word which describes what this show has done to me.

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I also love the poem about captivation that has been ruminating in our new king's head. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but I want to go find it and read through it again to see if there's something deeper there.

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I LOVED that poem! I transcribed it in the comments for Episodes 1-2.

To wish for life when you love her
And death when you hate her.
Wishing her to live
While wishing her to die.
Such paradox of fickleness.
That is what it means
To be captivated.

And remember how Jin-han said to his King brother to stop being "captivated" by his delusions? And he also again recited the poem to someone - I don't remember what that scene was, need to re-watch it but it was about again being "captivated" by politics. The running theme is clear - it's all about being "captivated" in this Show.

I love this show, I just love it, and objectively speaking, (apart from some obligatory tedious politics scenes) it's flawless. Dialogue is good. Editing is good. Production is good. Make-up is now not distracting (alleluia!) Morally-compromised brooding smart hero. What's not to love!

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Hey thanks! Im glad I'm not alone in loving the poem ^^

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Thanks for transcribing the poem here, I love it and was looking for the original literary source too.

1) I also can't help wonder if this metaphor of "captivation" will perhaps be extended as a thematic and narrative leitmotif through the whole story (which is to be viewed as one protracted Baduk game between our ML & FL)?

2) It is also intriguing to me that in the game of Go (aka Baduk in SK), "capturing" is a technical move. Yet, there is one situation where your beads can be completely surrounded by your opponents', and yet you cannot be captured. How intriguing.

3) Also, one of the golden rules -- forbidden suicide. A player is not allowed to commit "suicide" in their moves. (at least we know neither of our masterful players will kill themselves by the last episode 😅)

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@empressgirl “ It is also intriguing to me that in the game of Go (aka Baduk in SK), "capturing" is a technical move.”

Yes, yes, this is clever! I never played baduk but from what I know, it’s basically “capturing” and “surrounding” as much “territory” possible as possible around your opponent, isn’t it? Then it only adds more meaning to these games.

And yes, we can already say that a writer has some chops to explore a theme in a k-drama more in depth that we are normally used to. The poem has an agonizing quality to it. It’s all agonizing euphoria when you love them, but also agonizing pain when you hate them, two sides of the same coin. Interesting to see where it’s going to get us.

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Re:”The poem has an agonizing quality to it. It’s all agonizing euphoria when you love them, but also agonizing pain when you hate them“

Yes, I agree. The poem distills and unfolds the delicate & agonized ambivalence of a love/hate relationship (which I think foreshadows where our OTP is heading).

That is the dark and darker essence of being "captivated" -- you are bewitched and thus captured because you can neither advance towards your target (for you hate), nor retreat from it (for you love). Instead you are held captive, double-minded, in your place.

In Chinese chess, we have a saying "举棋不定". This is the gist of being in a stalemate. You hold the chess piece, yet you hesitate to place it. In that moment of tension and pause, you may already be in "captivity".

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Why do you find the politics scenes tedious? I think they did a good job at making all the political maneuvering interesting by taking some of the usual cliches and turning them upside down (as seen in this episode).

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Of course, it was only a matter of time before the paranoid king died, but I will miss him. The scenes with the two brothers were always absolutely captivating and superbly acted.

I don't believe that Jin-han suddenly switched to the "dark side of the force" and that he disregarded his brother's wishes and ascended the throne out of greed for power. Rather, his aim is probably to find out who is responsible for the king's death so that he can hunt him down. After that, he will probably leave the throne to his nephew as soon as he is old enough.
And it's definitely no coincidence that he's looking for a Baduk teacher after exactly three years. Someone is definitely hoping for a reunion.

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Ooh I hadn't thought of that! The 3 year mark is a definitely time interval.

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I was considering the same thing. He claimed the throne so he can bring to justice his brother's killer. He still has to find evidence if need be. Its possible that he also plan to leave it to his nephew once he is old enough. He needs to get him out of the clutches of his mother's family and officials who will take advantage of him.

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I like Jinhan. He was loyal to his brother and liked him a lot. I don't think he never wanted the throne for himself. But the circonstances made him taking it. First, his brother wasn't himself anymore, he died by poison, his son is very young, the politic situation with Qinq is complicated. So by taking the throne, Jinhan can protect his nephew from people who killed the King and from other countries.

I'm tired by Hee-soo acting like she knew better than anyone else. Myung-ha is not the best person, after all, he was helping his father but he wasn't wrong about her and the danger she put herself and her family in. It was quite impossible her real gender wasn't revealed when she was in prison...

Is her father is dead? I hope not, we already lost the King.

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I started out with the same thought: Jin Han took the throne so that he could protect it until he delivered it to his nephew. But power does funny things to a person and I wonder if it will be hard for him to let go.

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Not just that having power would corupt him, but also he would have a hard time letting go of that power because nobody would know what the nephew would do once he will become king. He might not be so forgiven for what happened to his uncle and mother. Also, once his mother becomes QD she will have something to say and do about it.
For me it is logical to think that he will remain the king, he stole that position for all the good reasons but he will have no choice but to be captivated by it.

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Yes, I can see why he would decide to take the throne. The situation is too precarious and a child king would just be under the thumb of his relatives.

I too wonder how her gender escaped notice in jail. I know she was not tortured, but I still think that it would have been hard to keep her secret.

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"Yes, I can see why he would decide to take the throne. The situation is too precarious and a child king would just be under the thumb of his relatives."

I felt like they don't even need to justify his actions in this Show. Even if I disagreed with that choice, I'd be ok because it adds an element of surprise and corrupt morals that is so refreshing to see in "morally uptight" King-protagonist in such a sageuk. He's so interesting that I don't care how he ends up, I am just looking forward to SEE it. This is entirely due to writing and direction. It's like the writer and the director are on the same wave when it comes to telling these things, some obvious and some - like these - quite subtle. Let see, let's see how it's all going to end up in this show.

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Yes, let's look forward to seeing how the story unfolds.

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If she wasn't tortured, there was no reason for the guards to get close to her. So it's not that hard to believe.

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That is a good point regarding the lack of torture, but the guards would have had some physical contact with her. Also, I wonder how long she was jailed and still think that her gender could have been at risk of exposure. My main issues have really been that the character still displays stereotypical female mannerisms and that her appearance would not fool anyone in real life. I know that we have to suspend disbelief for shows, but I wish a little effort would be made to help viewers do so. All that being said, I am liking the show.

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Let me say it already. I was surprised to see Jo Sung-ha and Sohn Hyun-joo out of the story this early, even though I'm glad I don't have to see another episode of Jo Sung-ha being evil - I've had many of that last year.

Things escalated and crashed so quickly. I'll miss the King. Choi Dae-hoon was 👌🏽 spot-on with his delivery.

The situation with Hee-soo reminded me of Ruler: Owner of the Mask. The female lead and her father suffered something similar. I don't know how they are going to get together again but I really hope this becomes the friends to enemies to lovers story we will add to the list.

Coming back as Mungwoo? I agree. Coming back as female? Not so much. But then, after Honey Lee's undercover guise at Pil Inn plus a 3-year hiatus, I expected a better disguise. Just saying.

It is fun that using Mong-woo as her new name is a way to pique the interest of Lee In. You know. He knows who Mungwoo is, so he needs no soothsayer to figure out she's the Baduk guy. But what he won't expect is that she's now a spy in addition to Baduk opponent.
I wish that they go the route of the bolded and not another journey of unknown identity.

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I also really liked that she was very straightforward about it: Mong Woo is back. Let it haunt your dreams that you betrayed me and now my friend is dead and I might just blame you for my father's choice too because why not.

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I don't think she blames him for her father's choice. She is just angry at Lee In for also betraying her father's trust — the man chose to go to Qing and sacrifice himself in order to protect Lee In bcs he truly believed in him, but what did Lee In do as soon as he got his hands on power?

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If the first two episodes were a bit lacklustre, 3-4 were making more than up for it. Jo Jung-seok was mesmerizing, I could not take my eyes off his moves to become king. He surely has a plan, we just don't know what that is, yet. I did not expect the early demise of Minister Kim, but I am not going to miss him.

I am looking forward to Myung-ha returning for revenge, but I am still not quite sold on Hee-soo dressed up as a man. She really acts more like a loose cannon than a Baduk player skilled in strategy and planning ahead.

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I am also super looking forward Myung-ha returning for revenge. I think it will be interesting because I think we'll definitely have 3 different camps, not just 2. No way Mong Woo will side with Myung Ha in her plans to make the king see what he's done. I just don't see it.

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I don't see how she acts like a loose cannon. She did nothing that thoughtless as of now. And anyways, being good at baduk (strategy) doesn't mean she suddenly acquired street smarts and knows how to apply her skills in real life. While she left the house in disguise sometimes, she's still the young daughter of a noble family and her worldview and experience are very limited. There's this thing called character development so let's see what changed after 3 years

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The king is the one who sent the spy. But when Kim accused Jinhan of it, the king believed him. I was going are you insane!
The king needed an excuse to hate Jinhan and get rid of hom. And it is heartbreaking to watch the brothers turn on each other.

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Right?? That was so sad for me. I wondered for a second how the could believe that Les In was a traitor when very clearly he and Lord Kang were the ones who sent the spy. And then I realized Minister Kim had unknowingly said the one thing that I think would really work: Minister Kim had conspired WITH Jin Han. Then I could see it- now all the king had to forget was that he was the one who first brought it up. And even if he did bring it up.. maybe Lord Kang had seen this as his chance.

I hope Lord Kang isn't dead. I'd love for him to get to return from the Qing lands and help bring our king back to the light.

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Oof. What a descent. What a week. I've done a bit of ranting/commenting around the fan walls and what we're watching pages, but I can say it again here and it's just as true: THAT SCENE. With his face half covered in blood. It was just so beautifully done and made me think all sorts of thoughts about how this was the beginning of his descent into madness.. half of him white and pure and the other half drenched in blood.

For me the most impactful scenes visually are the following:
1. The opening credits. Gorgeous. Love the sound of the Baduk board and then the different people arranged as pieces on the board. It just matches the themes of the drama so well- each of these people has personality and desires and what they WISH they could do, and then there's what actually happens as they get swept up in each other's schemes and manipulations.

2. The confrontation between the King and Lee In. Kudos, guys. You did great. I was especially struck with the moment when the king spread his arms and just look so stsrk raving bonkers.. it was great. And poor Lee In, to have NO closure whatsoever. Not only does he not know for certain who killed his brother, but also to have someone you've loved start saying things like "I only pretended to like you because that was the play I needed to make in order to survive". Even if they had a great history growing up, the strain between the two of them in the last year has to have had its toll.

3. The bloody scene in the mourning courtyard. This scene feels so symbolic of just his cracking morality and anger at the court and the world in general. What's so sad is that I believe him when he said he was sincere about stepping down if anyone opposed him ascending the throne. And yet. He's lying to himself. Who on earth would dare oppose him after that scene?!

4. Hongjang's death. Just the sight of her friend dead and peaceful on the ground, with Mongwoo crying over her.. it was striking. And I LOVE that Mongwoo called back to the conversation they had about how the blood of the captives stained the air. As far as we know he spent years being an incredibly loyal, morally strong ally of the king. Will we learn otherwise with time? I don't know. But I love it. I'm so here for it. All of Mong woo's interactions with him until the massive Betrayal pointed to him being an AWESOME dude. So it'll be fun to watch them interact now that he's gone to the dark side.

Other notes:
I actually am so intrigued by the court lady. She was pretty obviously terrified of the old king and didn't want to be intimate with him, and it was sad to watch her flinch when Lee In grabbed her. I am SO curious as to what he said to her though. If he has any sort of deeper calculated plan in taking the throne, she's the one who I think knows about it.

Bravo, show. Bravo. Now don't break my heart please. Or at least put it back together when you're done.

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Yes, yes, it petered off a little bit, but the revenge aspect brought this back to life. This has been great also good riddance to Minister Kim, that actor always plays an annoying character. Revenge and love by baduk, im ready for tradegy.

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OMG, guys. GUYS. The feeeeeeelllllzzzzz. Episode 4 was such an emotional rollercoaster for me:

"I HAVE NEVER LOVED YOU!" Uuuuuuhhhhhhh. Is there anything WORSE in this world you can say to a person who clearly loves you more than anything?!! Who sacrificed years and years of captivity to ensure your survival and the survival of the nation?!? Who recites your partying words like they are written in his heart?!? Cruel, so-so cruel!

Then, OMG, IS HE ACTUALLY LYING about the King's last words?!? He's actually lying! He actually does!! Wae?!?! What an interesting protagonist - smart, loyal, shrewd but now morally compromised. I'm so, so, so invested with our newly-minted King, omg.

Then, "I am not upset because this is wrong. You prey on my desperation and force me to perjure myself for personal gain." Giiiiiirrrl, you tell him! Tell Myung-ha what we all felt from the beginning, that you are such an irritating douchebag!

What, this SLEAZEBALL switched sides?! Hmm, is there anyone in this court who gives favors without asking/expecting something in return?! The court lady, the Mother Queen, the Sleazeball, the widowed queen, Myung-Ha, all were crawling like a pack of hyenas around each other and main leads to exhort favors and promises. This was such a sinister qui-pro-quo happening throughout the episode, and - I can't believe I'm saying this - I was actually invested in the Palace Politics and dynastic games.

He killed the Evil Scheming Minister?! No way!! Show, are you going there? Are you really going there?! Are you risking depicting our Protagonist unlikable, but in fact, no one even cares at this point, because we are so invested anyway?!

"I do not concern myself with friends and such things anymore. I am the King now." Ugggghhhh. Torched it. Embracing that destiny to the fullest, aren't you?

Hongjang dying...... I really, really, really don't remember the last time I cried so unexpectedly while watching K-drama. *Immediately rewind to re-watch the scene for a hundredth time*

Me, oh-oh the Cliff of Doom is coming. What?! There's such a thing as Waterfall of Doom?! *scratch my head in a confusion*

Then, "I swear on my father and Hongjang. I will survive and return and make him feel the pain of being betrayed by the person he trusted." Giiiiirrrll, I understand you lost your best friend and your idol just fell down from a pedestal into a ditch but this IS your reason for a revenge?! You better make it more convincing, Show, because, I'm not feeling it yet.

"All he does all day is drinking and women". *chuckle*

She's baaaaack! As a Royal Baduk Teacher! OMG!

Whew, thank you, episode 4, you will surely last me for all of the palace politics in at least 4 more episodes. I'm all in!

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Your thoughts about Myung Ha reminded some something I thought while watching this week:

Although subtle, Myung Ha really is kind of a terrible dude when you think about it. Or at least rather foolish and weak. He doesn't listen (no means no, dude) and isn't above strong arming our heroine to try and get what he wants (using her secret identity to his advantage). Although I understand his motivations, it's a misguided move.

But it's when he just sits idly by for the most part while his father plots to bring about the destruction of a member of the royal family and then watches and sure, says something once but doesn't really protest the legitimate torture of all these innocent people that really got to me. It just sort of confirmed to me that he's rather selfish and doesn't really take others into consideration for what he wants.

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"Myung Ha really is kind of a terrible dude when you think about it."

Exactly! I realized that from the moment he evil-eyed our heroine when she and Jin Han were about to play a second game. I am SO-SO glad that the writer was really clear about that too in further episodes, putting those words in her dialogue that pretty much summed it all up for us.

And OMG, remember that dialogue when she said she knew from the beginning who he was by the way he played baduk?! That he's inconsiderate and impatient and she would never marry a person like him. What a smart insult! It wasn't just about because he never won. BUT because a manner in which he treated the baduk game and her was so selfish in her mind. Good for you, girl, good!

(Can I just mention that the dialogue is really, really good?! I'm infatuated with this Show, lol)

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I don't agree. If he really wanted to use her secret, he would have said : Marry Me or I tell the truth. But he didn't, he asked her to stop because she was in danger. He discovered her secret because he was with a member of the Royal Court who was searching for the young gambler. She could have been arrested sooner.

I don't think it's so easy to betray our family, filial love is very important in Joseon. Betraying his father means condemning every member of his family.

I don't think he's good neither bad, he's just trying to act with the circonstances.

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I agree. He's filial and he goes along with his father--that's what he's supposed to do. He loves her because she's brilliant, pretty, and brave, but he doesn't understand her. She's right to reject him. If he'd really wanted to marry her, he would have shown up the night her father sacrificed himself to save the king. But I suppose for that to happen, his father would have had to share the information about that happening with him, which he wouldn't have done.

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Kings descending into madness and delusions of paranoia (by poisoning) is one of the most tragic and fascinating things to watch. The best examples is probably Yeo Jin-goo's iconic stellar performance in The Crowned Clown.

Adieu, King...It was good while it lasted.
The King is dead, long live the King!

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What more convincing reason is there? He betrayed her trust and devotion (as well as her father's), causing her to lose her friend in the process.

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It was heartbreaking to see Grand Prince Jinhan turn cold and heartless. It made me think twice if he was a trechearous snake like his enemies think him to be. But I still want to have hope that he will turn out to be a better person and King than everyone thought him to be.
As much as it was satisfying to see Myung Ha's meddling backfire on him, it was heartbreaking that it negatively impacted HongJang and HeeSoo. I expect him to make a bigger mess in the future but hopefully Hee Soo will be wiser then. I am bracing myself for more heartbreaks and betrayals.

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I think what we're seeing wrt Jin han is remorse tempered with severe depression which has totally consumed him to the point where his former self has been totally subverted. It will take a lot of deep feelings (cough, cough, Mong -woo, cough, cough) for him to "wake up".

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Thanks for the recap! I decided to watch this one against my better judgment. This last episode was killer. Jo Jung-seok has resting villain face, which I think everyone knows on some level. He has this weird non-expression which looks thoughtful or sinister, depending on the character, and then a really charming smile. For this part, it lets him vibrate between the real person (a brother, a friend, a person who likes games) and the political man. His snap decision to take the throne is incredible to watch.

I really believed his pain in the scene with the king. I really believed that the king loved his brother! Choi Dae-hoon was so incredible.

Am I right that the court lady who was serving the king (and was his girlfriend, sort of?) was the person who poisoned him?

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I also believe that the culprit is the court lady but the doctor said that he found no evidence of poison in king's body. Are they working together or she used an untraceable poison? And whom is she/they working for? The Queen Dowager? The Qings? Could it be Hee-soo's father? Ah, I am so intrigued!

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I really wonder about that relationship, because it was so fraught with tension. The Queen Dowager did reward her after the King's death, so maybe she was behind the "illness"? Or maybe the court lady was upset that she wasn't elevated to the status of concubinage even though the king was either sleeping with her or wanted to sleep with her? Maybe she was just a bystander who, like Jin Han, capitalized on a situation. Certainly it would have been bad for the kingdom to have a tiny child as the king.

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I think the poisoning was ordered by Daebi Mama. But we shall see...

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I'm enjoying this show, but, c'mon, Shin Se-Kyung makes too pretty and adorable a man to actually be mistaken for a man.

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I actually had a good chuckle when SSK was running away from guards in the last episode. She runs so feminine like a pretty gazelle. How anyone can mistake her for a man. Lol

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Marathon 4 eps and I didn't know it would be like this. The soft hearted Prince became a cold King??
Can't complaint JJS acting, all are chef kiss, too bad SSK seems can't match him.

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That's my problem with this casting.

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"Still, he adds (sincerely) that if even one person disapproves, he won’t ascend the throne" quoting mistyisles.

If the Grand Prince was sincere, then why does he not stand by his word to concede if any one person opposed him becoming king?

Did I miss something?

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