Even though his concerns and trust for Do-ha were registered truth, his eyes gave it away. He had those strong, unwavering, indifferent eyes when he was alone, when dealing with company matters, even when finding out about his spouse’s affair. I think he had something to do with the ML that nobody knows of.

Did Sol-hee avoid Do-ha's kiss and question just for him to surprise kiss her?

I was expecting them to kiss there too but it felt like the director wanted the campsite to be their first kiss because the setting was prettier. Which it was but I would not have minded having two pretty kisses in one episode. Three if we count that cute peck in front of the door.

"In a drama filled with unlikable characters, Deuk-chan was one of the five characters that I actually liked."
You hit the nail on the head.

Whatever her circumstances, fact is Eom-ji was toxic. Maybe misinformed, insecure and brainwashed but definitely toxic.

Chi-hoon surely deserves better ... drama gods jebal.

Oh noes. Yes, I had the same feeling: My hope that the drama would remain not too dark is about to be crushed into pieces. It looks like the girl is indeed dead. How sad. She needed help but ended up dead instead.

Your last sentence was me exactly, I think my neighbors heard my SIGH, lol.

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Yes, I could ignore all the green acting when their chemistry is this good. Tbh, I have never seen KSH this happy and glowing. I really believe they are in love (in the show).

I had been on the fence about Deuk-chan as I wanted him to be a good guy in this show, but this week, I am now on board with the beanies who find him suspicious... the look he gave Sol-hee when he Congratulated her was a bit scary.

"he went all stabby again"
Lol 😆
As per the preview seems there is going to be stabby once more.

I loved him saying he wouldn’t hide it from her too. And I was thinking about him not ever lying while watching these episodes. Do y’all think he started doing that after the fateful night with Eom-ji? Before, he said he didn’t drink because at one point he drank enough for a lifetime. So do we think he doesn’t lie because that one lie (that he had another girl in Seoul) had such a horrible outcome?

But why did our Addams Family not prepare an outfit for Do-ha so the four of them could match? They knew he was working at their booth. He looked like Hawaii Five-0 visiting The Addams Family.

I said the same thing about KSH, her outfit was really cute on her.

I have this new theory that, as someone told the FL before that she never knew the reason behind those lies, she might never know the reason behind those truths as well. DC may seem like he is genuine about DH, but I guess there are reasons behind these true statements. He might say he trusts and concerns about DH because of his own benefits. Whatever that or those might be.

Exactly the question! I wonder if this is all about Deuk-chan's power and control: if Sol-hee becomes Do-ha's main confidant in life, that will mean Deuk-chan will not be privy to a lot of Do-ha's thoughts. If Do-ha then chooses to act independently about the murder - speaking up, revealing new information - this would wrest Deuk-chan's control from him. Since it's likely Deuk-chan has lied to the police (inventing the alibi, possibly more), information getting out without his control would be devastating for him and his business. But I'm still wondering how his wife's affair fits into all of this.

The part where he reasons with Eom Ho - I thought he emoted well there

i feel like the writer knows atleast how they want to end it. my observations those little hints are already lying around.

id rather see shaon as jazz singer, than Idol (why does she need to be an idol?) see, she has velvety voice and that scene was really good.

He can't act, but at least he can kiss. 🤭

Honestly, Do-ha's character is just so well-written, and Hwang Min-hyun is just so handsome that I can overlook his awkward acting. The most important thing to me is that he and Kim So-hyun have the best romantic chemistry.

Oh yes the kiss!!! Usually I pity the actors because they always have to kiss someone not their real life partner/spouse in front of the cameras and the crew, but seeing the kiss between HMH and KSH these episodes, I thought kissing a random someone such as your fellow actor could also be enjoyable lol.

I used to think his acting range was one blank expression. Now, I'm taking it back. I'm thinking I haven't seen his acting range (and I am pretty sure that it isn't huge for now because, let's be honest, this isn't his main vocation), but I'm getting a feeling that he gets camera-shy. You can sort of notice that he is a little less wooden in the latest episodes than he was in the first ones. So, I'm waiting for now. Some scenes did take me by surprise because they turned out better played and emoted than I expected. Having (finally) discovered the range of vocal emotions he can bring through in songs (how did I miss Terius glorious golden hair mask?), I want to believe he's got more in him when it comes to acting.

He is a good on- camera kisser for sure, but that crying scene was really bad, even I can see his effort, so maybe practice makes perfect for him.

Their kiss scene is the best. They seemed to really enjoy it lmao.

Definitely not a let down! That's a relief. I will be totally bummed if it was totally flat or motionless. I mean, I hyped myself up from all the build up. Haha.

I too initially wondered why would Doha insist on letting him go. Now I feel his guilt may not be totally evaporated yet, and he chose compassion for now. Whether that will have repercussions, we will soon see. Perhaps it was Doha's projections that he too wants to be forgiven for how he acted with his ex.

I love the comparisons between the past and present.

Which brings me to Shaon. Doha can find his redemption through her now. Instead of leaving her and telling her to die when she guilt tripped him, he came to her aid, even stupidly alone, because sometimes, that's what traumatic panicky people do. The over reliance on the self, after believing that he had a part to blame in the ex's death. He didn't give in to her pleadings and didn't further lead her on, and she finally came to the self realisation of what truly matters in their partnership. I am glad that Solhee is the compassionate soul that she is for Doha, relieving him from his useless lie and pulling him out from his lonely and ashamed shell. He in turn for her, helped her further deepen her wisdom and maturity on lies people say to one another. She is a different lover with Doha, and I agree with beanies here who said that Doha gave her that agency to choose what she does with the truth, even if at first it terrified him. This is the love that I want for myself. when my partner gives me courage to be vulnerable, and together, we grow and move forward.

There is a difference I believe, between Doha's useless lie and Solhee's mother's fraud and scams. It is unfortunate though that Doha is in the web of deceit surrounding his ex's death and I am looking forward to see how that unfolds, particularly in relation to how it impacts his relationship with Solhee.

I'm disappointed the ex is dead too, I hate murder mysteries in romantic kdramas, there are other conflicts that exist writers.

I totally agree on your point about showing us how they spend time and develop their relationship together. It is a must, and it is never a waste of time!

I also wondered why they brought Sole's dad back. Not that I am complaining. It's lovely to see Ahn Naesang again, especially after the useless role he was playing in Miraculous Brothers. Now, he's got his own tent, his Tarzanesque mane, and a whole forest to play. Yay! Solhee's mum seemed shocked to see him there, so I am hoping for future interactions between the two and him to support his daughter.

I actually think that even though the video is going to be seen as faked, the fact that Sol Hee saw him walking with his Liverpool Jersey on the night of the ex's death will come into play. I just remembered that scene just now. He had the bloody shirt in his hand from stemming her wound.

Ha, great you mentioned the jazz club Ahjussi. Here he runs the Oasis Jazz Club and in Heart ❤ Beat he was Joo In-hae's father - owner of the Oasis Guest House. Heh!

I agree with you. I like them all but the romance is not sizzling in my eyes

I miss the scenes of Sol-hee’s on the job. I could do with the addition of a “Loonie’s Tarot” liar-of-the-week structure, myself. I mean, if I were in charge 😁

On the flip side, I adored DWY today…

I'm with you. I sat through most of these episodes just because the OTP is cute together, but as you said, their story is bland and the chemistry isn't compelling enough to overcome that. I still like the way the writers showed that men can be the ones who end up emotionally abused by their female partners, but other than that, the show isn't holding my interest.

I'm liking the other "Lovely" show much more at this point.

Not alone. For an episode that punted the plot quite far along, a whole lot of nothing also happened. I’m getting a little bored. At least it was colorful and pleasing to look at, and I covet Do-ha’s aloha shirt. Everything about the plot progression screams “12 episodes, ending coming soon” and I truly cannot guess how the show can reasonably fill 6 more - I would not regard a whole bunch of the moms, the dad, and Violent Oppa as reasonable, and I don’t care about Deuk-chan’s wife’s affairs. I do recall him telling Do-ha that not even his wife knew he’d bought the apartment next to Sol-hee’s, so that’s one more mark in the suspect column for him.

Also, I’m starting to feel a non-happy-ending coming on.

I am not a romcom fan. This is a euphemism. I tend to hate them. But then, many romcoms have unnecessary drama at their core, from lack of communication to unexplainable years of absence occurring just before the last episode (why? why do you have to separate the leads for 1,2, 3, or more years? How is that effective storytelling?!). I am skipping over the typical poor helpless girl cliché with the cold-hearted (but secretly fluffy as a bunny) chaebol heir CEO... These throw me into a raging fit just thinking about it.

But here, we've got an independent and successful business woman with an equally successful composer. One is still being pursued by his past (and will inevitably because scape goat numero uno as soon as the mountain skeleton is identified as Eom-ji — girl, how did you end up being killed and buried in the mountain rather than the beach? Obviously, we are missing crucial points of the story, but that is part of the plot. Yet, I am surprised there was not one witness who remembered suspicious people dragging a corpse up in the mountain. However, we do have a witness in Solhee for Doha walking away at the time of the incident. Anyway, I digress) and the romcom serves as a healing journey to free up from his past. This isn't the so overdone clash of social classes.

We've got people who communicate, and this is exacerbated by the fact that hiding something could ring the lie gong as we've seen with Solhee and Kang Min. This is quite a big change for romcoms (although, there are others romcoms where the Mrs are able to talk through miscommunication, such as Oh My Venus for example).

We've also got people who instinctively are on a similar wave length. They understand what the other needs, and this is quite refreshing for romcoms too (it has also appeared in other dramas).

I like all those green flags that are crucial to any relationship, not just romantic. So, while the romance may not be sizzling hot, the green flags do bring the much-needed healing from many romcoms that glamourise toxic behaviours.

But yes... I wouldn't have been able to stay tuned without a mysterious corpse (must admit, I need a corpse in my romcom... whether it is the skeleton in the cupboard or an actual corpse. Thankfully, I don't have a therapist, otherwise, I imagine, they have reported me to the authorities for that statement)

Definitely not alone... this show is weaker with each episode.

members to rely on or be friends with either, so I can see where her obsession with Do-ha started from. I think it’s poor form on her management’s end to not really notice the state of her mental health and do something about it. Even if you see your artist as dollar signs, surely you can recognise that poor mental health is going to impact her performance and star value. A little extra miffed with Deuk-chan, because he’s seen firsthand how dangerous her obsession can get, but all he’s done is just either antagonise her further or been like ‘shut up and stay put’ basically.

“ The mystery is mystery-ing but not really in a ‘wow complex guess who game’ and more in a ‘this feels like a lowkey mess and I feel like the reveal is going to be lacklustre’ way.”

Oh dear. Whereas I am hoping the mystery will lift an already low-key show. Now I am not sure.

I was also happy they layered the 2FL some. I felt I could understand her, even empathize a little while still finding her behavior toxic. Marks to the show for not giving us another inexplicable 2FL.

Eom-ji needed dialectical behavior therapy

When you say "the ML is a smooth operator", now I have to ask... Do you mean he's on point with the lips and tongue actions? Because I first read it as such, and then I thought perhaps you meant the flirting bit that led to the kiss. So, just for the sake of my own conscience, was I accidentally running with the filth?

Not sure, I should call it filth. The smoochiness of the moment feels more appropriate here.

Anyway, smooch aside (despite how beautifully un-dead-fish-like it felt), I am okay with the the ex being dead. It is the most logical explanation for her disappearance. She didn't seem like someone who would orchestrate a fake death. What I am not okay with is the utter lack of clues about anything that could have happened to her at the time, except for the beach scene. She had no social circle or connection depicted (except for insanely obsessive bro and I'm-gonna-steal-your-coins dad) so it's hard to figure out the why and how she might have ended up buried in the mountain.

smooth operator.. yeah i was actually surprise with HMH switching sides from bottom to upper lip. but it did not felt sticky or sloppy in a bad way

usually for first on screen kisses the actors just stay in one angle and the camera pans out far away then the end of the scene 😆

why are we all going being nitpicky of kiss scenes anyway. this was good that's it lol.

kiss scene indeed looks sloppy but i kinda like the sloppiness

I did not infer for like a second if maybe DC is closeted and likes DH but it seemed to far fetched for me

I am not convinced by the Deukchan-Doha-Eomji love triangle, but I would love to see it! I am it is farfetched, and probably not the direction the drama is going to take, but hell with that, I'll be onboard!

I'm coming back to this comment. @hanan, you actually were spot on with the murder.
While he didn't kill Eom-ji in a romantic fit of jealousy but because he was terrified Do-ha would find out his true feelings, you uncovered the murderer several episodes before everyone else. Bravo!

Perhaps, @reply1988 can enlighten us here: Do we have a special Beanie award for the best and most accurate prediction?

Hereby, I, Cecee of the Obsessive Keyboard Clan, bestow upon @hanan, this 🫘Beansprout🌱 for the Most Accurate Prediction!

🔮🌱May this honorary crystal sprout bring more correct predictions on your way through many further K dramas

We have no seen anything about Deukchan's past so far. it is implied that he knew Doha then, but we haven't seen their relationship then. So this leads to many, many questions:

- If Deukchan killed Eomji, what would be the reason? It's not like she was interfering with his entertainment business because it didn't exist at the time. Would he know her? I'm not sure. Eomji didn't strike me as someone who would have had a big social circle.

- We've seen Eomji's dad, who seems on the dark side of the Kdrama force. Is he violent enough to murder his daughter and bury her in the mountain? He seemed more interested in stealing than actually abusing her. Besides, why would he come back to her? It's not like Eomji has got anything left he could steal. But, it's hard to judge one character on a 12-second scene.

- Did Eomji witness something she shouldn't have? Was she at the wrong place at the wrong time? While this doesn't hit me as a place packed with underground criminals, we did see Solhee work with a gang in the same town at the same time. Why would they kill an innocent girl? Well... Good question. One of them certainly had no qualms trying to hurt Solhee. So, who knows? More importantly, why would they have buried her? Why hide it when they can pin it on a rival gang?

- What bothers me is not the fact she was killed (I mean, she was unbearably toxic, why would you want to keep her alive?) It's the fact she was buried at a completely different location to where her items (bloodied shoes) were found. Because I see 2 cases here. #1/ Eomji was the one who left her shoes on the beach (for some overly dramatic reason after carefully bleeding on top of them). Where would she go bare foot? Surely not to bury herself in the mountain like a tidy little corpse. So, leaving the shoes there makes little sense when her body is elsewhere.
#2/ Someone killed her elsewhere and brought the shoes back to the beach. This may not even have been done to throw suspicions at Doha, but perhaps in an effort to provide an explanation for her disappearance. If they killed her elsewhere, can we assume it was in the mountain or did the killer also added some epic cardio session after the murder by carrying Eomji to her improvised burial spot? She might have been light, but how can you not get noticed carrying a dead body on your shoulder? So, this brings me to wondering if Eomji somehow found her way to the mountain herself... And if so, why?

I'm trying hard, but I don't have enough insight on Deukchan to guess his involvement. What I know is that Deukchan's brother, suspicious as he is, still believes Doha killed Eomji. So, he played no role in this tragic story. Deukchan did call Doha a murderer (by mistake), and it feels like it is an impossible mistake to make if he had been the one who killed Eomji in the first place.

So, I am also wondering if we have actually seen Eomji's murderer already. We may have, but if so, we are still...

i enjoyed the scenes of doha and eomji as well and even more surprise that theyre able to create good chemistry both on screen and bts despite how toxic the relationship was on paper.

🥳Welcome to the comments section. Thanks for sharing these thought provoking questions. I am looking forward to sharing the journey with you as we enter the home straight with this drama.

Somehow, the show has decided to show lies with a sound and show the absence of lie with another ringing sound too instead of silence! Just for extra confusion!

Seo Jihoon's character is, thankfully, in very capable hands because he would not have been so likeable played by many, many other actors. While, Hwang Minhyun has been given a character that is likeable and that the viewer should want to protect from the start... so yes, no comparison here.

Consent? I did not have any issue there. He was obviously flirting. She was obviously okay with it from her body language, the fact she chose to spend an entire day with him, and their previous encounters so far. She also did join in the kiss too. I note she didn't ask for his consent to hug him the night before. Did you have an issue with this too or is this just hyper selective consent?

She is fairly green though when it comes to relationship given her abilities and the absence of trust in her previous relationship from literal years ago. I placed it more as being cautious for her own sake. She's been burnt before and she hasn't had lots of opportunities to practice dating with someone she trusts.

The kiss was sudden, but I felt like Do Ha was a little nervous and so he swooped in quickly. He did pause to let her pull back if she wished.

I'm with you there on that last sentence too firefly! It did feel like the mystery elements were stalling OTP time, which is annoying on two fronts, because a) I want more OTP time and b) I want the mystery to be done properly, and NOT feel like questionable filler half the time :(