The Secret Romantic Guesthouse: Episodes 9-10
by mistyisles
Answers at last! As we cross the halfway point of our story, our characters move into position to commence with their respective plans. In the process, however, they’ll have to confront new information that changes the way they view the world — and each other.
EPISODES 9-10
As promised, San reveals himself to Dan-oh as Lee Seol, and this time we’re given flashbacks that confirm he’s telling the truth. Plus, he has that red mole on his ankle (which is bound to cause trouble later considering Ban-ya saw it and she’s posing as Dan-oh’s friend while spying for Tae-hwa).
The reveal of Lee Seol’s identity may have been surprising to us, but it’s earth-shattering to Dan-oh. Her intense mix of emotions range from relief that the boy she saved back then stayed safe all these years to remorse at having drawn him out of hiding and terror that she might be forced to expose him through torture or threats.
There’s also the fear of what could happen to him when he enters the palace guard, but San won’t be dissuaded from that. Just as Dan-oh defended Ihwawon, he needs to defend his country from its tyrannical king. And to do that, he plans to get as close to the king as he can and strike from within.
As plans go, “get close to the king” turns out to be pretty easy. Maybe the king subconsciously senses their familial connection, or maybe he just likes San’s nerve, but either way, as San continues to distinguish himself during initiation, the king’s interest in him only grows. When the king challenges San to a sparring match (with real swords, of course), San doesn’t back down. But the king doesn’t punish him for winning — instead he laughs, delighted that for once his opponent didn’t just let him win.
But even while San continues earning the king’s apparent favor, the king lays a trap of his own for Lee Seol, unaware that Lee Seol is right under his nose. Having learned of Dan-oh’s childhood meeting with the prince, he summons Dan-oh to question her — er, attempt to choke answers out of her, rather — himself.
San watches in horror, torn between protecting his plan and saving Dan-oh’s life, but thankfully the king decides to let her live on his own. Her father was his old teacher, after all, and anyway he knows Lee Seol will seek out his lifesaver eventually. So the king keeps Dan-oh close, summoning her at random times to talk and play games with him.
Meanwhile, Minister Shin sets his own plan into motion. Yoo-ha, it turns out, is the illegitimate son of the deposed crown prince. That makes him Lee Seol’s (San’s) half-brother, Lee Gyeom, though he’s lived his whole life unaware of his true lineage.
Minister Shin baits Yoo-ha with the promise of building a new, more equitable world before dropping the real bombshell: they want him to take the throne as Lee Seol. People are dying by the day, and they can’t afford to delay any longer looking for a lost prince who may or may not appear. No one will commit treason for an illegitimate prince, but they will rally behind Lee Seol, and Yoo-ha has enough key family heirlooms to prove he’s of royal blood.
Despite his reluctance, Yoo-ha eventually agrees to take up the false identity, believing it’s for the greater good. He still wants to meet his half-brother, though, and claims he has no intention of fighting the real Lee Seol for the throne if it should ever come to that. And for his sake, I really hope that’s true.
As for our third — and most mysterious — Flower Scholar, Shi-yeol spends a lot of this week with Hong-joo, who has decided to return to Ihwawon after all. When she asks why Shi-yeol never pries into her past, he says thoughtfully and sadly that he has a past of his own he doesn’t want people asking about. One that’s kept him from living a life of his own choosing.
Hong-joo wants to do more to help Dan-oh instead of feeling like a burden, so she dresses as a (male) scholar, and she and Shi-yeol go out drinking to loudly talk about Ihwawon in hopes of drumming up new business. I’m not sure which hurts more — the memories we see of Hong-joo blissfully in love with her now-deceased fiancé, or the looks Shi-yeol gives her that suggest he’s falling head-over-heels while knowing exactly what happened to said fiancé.
As danger looms ever closer, Dan-oh’s worries mount. One night, after drinking with Hong-joo, she waits up outside San’s room until he comes home. He’s all set to assuage her fears once again, until she launches into the list of everything that keeps her up at night, and his name doesn’t even come up until the end. And this time it’s not his proximity to danger that’s causing her problems — it’s his face.
It took the help of an erotica book and him calling her “his person” for her to notice, but she can no longer deny her growing feelings for him. Knowing what to do with those feelings, however, is another matter. Having vented her frustrations, she leans over to plant a kiss on his cheek, then sinks down and falls asleep on his shoulder.
But there’s more trouble brewing: Tae-hwa’s second-in-command has been tipped off about San’s identity. He lures San into an ambush, scoffing at San’s warning that learning San’s true identity is equivalent to a death sentence. Right on cue, the red-sleeved Watchman arrives and kills every single one of San’s assailants, so San doesn’t even have to raise his sword.
When it’s over, San orders the Watchman to remove his mask. The Watchman obeys, kneeling before his prince, and San’s eyes widen in shock. It’s Shi-yeol.
Of course it’s Shi-yeol! Aside from the Watchman being the next logical guess for his identity when he was revealed not to be Lee Seol, Shi-yeol has always been lurking in the background and keeping, well, watch over San: treating his wound, hanging out in his room uninvited, straightening his robes, nagging at him to get rid of that prophecy book so he wouldn’t get caught with it. He even acted as a decoy Lee Seol — and he did it so well he fooled not only Tae-hwa, but also us for several episodes.
Fun and exciting as the guessing game was (and it sure was fun!), the tradeoff was that we couldn’t get a proper peek into our Flower Scholars’ motivations or even their inner thoughts. Now that we know who they are, though, we can really start delving into what drives them and what each of them plans to do next. Like San infiltrating the king’s inner circles, and Yoo-ha’s morality and identity crises. And Shi-yeol’s hints that life as the Watchman may not be something he chose or even wants for himself.
Things are about to get very complicated and dangerous for everyone, so I’m glad we’ve gotten clear on who’s who first, before diving headlong into the inevitable struggle amongst (at least) three contenders for the throne. Bring on the revolution!
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Tags: Jung Geon-joo, Kang Hoon, Ryeoun, Shin Ye-eun, The Secret Romantic Guesthouse
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1 Kareoz
April 19, 2023 at 2:51 PM
While I enjoyed the trolling on who is who, I have to admit I was deeply disappointed with the reveals in these two episodes, as they seem to have turned this into a much more conventional kdrama storyline than it looked like it was shaping up to be.
Having teased us for so long, the ultimate reveals seem to leave us facing a very conventional set up, with Yoo Ha (egged on by his obvious mother) as San's antagonist in both love and war, and presumably ultimately for the chop.
Moreover, I still don't find San very convincingly kingly or charismatic; and in part that's the down to the actor who is pretty but not up to the level of others we've seen recently (admittedly Park Hyung-Sik is a high standard to live up to, but think back to less experienced actors such as Moon Sang-min in Under the Queen's Umbrella for example). He's fine as far as the romance goes, but he still seems far to impulsive and hotheaded, and beyond getting rid of the king's tyranny, we've been given no sense of his future agenda.
Shi Yeol still looks much more kingly to me, but on the plus side, I like the way his character is being developed, relationship with Hong-joo (though can't see how that is going to work out once everything comes out!).
Do seem to be a few hooks for further twists (just what will that duplicitous eunuch do now?), so I really hope they have enough left to keep this from becoming a fairly ordinary sageuk.
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Kareoz
April 19, 2023 at 3:02 PM
Moreover the backstory they've given YooHa seems ridiculous on the face of it.
Pretty strange in Joseon terms for Crown Prince to not only refuse to acknowledge his son publicly, but leave him working as a slave!
And adoption was a serious thing in Joseon - effectively a renunciation of your original family not overriden by considerations such as royal blood. Maybe understandable and forgivable if you are hiding out as a traitors son and then come to power via a coup (ie Yee Seol), but it would have made it difficult to reclaim a princely title later on.
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 3:23 PM
I agree. San seems to lack maturity and that doesn’t bode well. It appeared as though his affection and concern for Danoh was the reason he decided to bring the rebellion forward. That was such an absurd scene as it further demonstrated his impulsive nature.
I remain undecided about Ryeoun acting skills. He does much better in some scenes but in others, he seems to be a bit lost/floundering. In comparison, Kang Hoon is outstanding. He has layered his character so deftly and is a constant joy to watch. I love how he allows these brief moments of sadness to peek through in an otherwise carefully curated persona.
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jerrykuvira
April 19, 2023 at 4:33 PM
Kang Hoon is rocking it here and his performance is pure sex, and extemporaneous. I'll be borrowing the term from a beanie.
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 4:38 PM
@jerrykuvira: All though extemporaneous is partially apt here, I bet he also has prepared meticulously for his role. It isn’t just acting on the fly. He responds very naturally to his fellow actors and gives the impression that acting is easy but it takes skill, preparation and good timing.
Isa is always time travelling
April 19, 2023 at 4:56 PM
I liked A LOT his acting when Shi Yeol and Heung Jo are trying to "advertise" the guest house.
So natural indeed. He is a great actor.
miso
April 19, 2023 at 3:15 PM
There was a definite dip in enjoyment this week. Made me wonder if I was in it for the plot or just the who's who 😅.
I think the problem with San (other than the slightly green acting) is also that we don't have a clear sense of what exactly his plan is. Maybe I missed it but did he clarify what entering the palace will achieve? Where does he go from here?
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 3:26 PM
@miso. It is very higgledy piggledy at this stage for sure. He is driven by rage, sorrow and entitlement which is the stuff the Joseon version of the games of thrones is all about.
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jerrykuvira
April 19, 2023 at 4:36 PM
Ryeon's acting is green. And very apparent in scenes that are meant to convey subtle emotions or the heavy ones. He kinda mixes them up. I do hope he gets better as an actor cause his facial language is quite cool to note.
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Lonestar Girl
April 19, 2023 at 3:59 PM
I appreciate your comments and couldn’t agree more. I was let down by the confirmation that San is indeed Lee Seol. You are right; he doesn’t seem very kingly. But when he ordered the Watchman to reveal himself, I realized he is a haughty little sucker.
I like Yoo-Ha and I fear for his fate. So far, it doesn’t bode well.
My favorite is still Shi Yeol, and I’m interested in his backstory. Could he also be part of the Royal family? Like Miriam looking after Moses in the reeds of the Nile, was he sent to watch over the child San? How else did he know about the dog?
One more observation: who is the King’s Guard the camera keeps focusing on? How does he play into this story?
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Kareoz
April 19, 2023 at 5:15 PM
Verygood points, and you could be right about Yee Sheol having a deeper background, would make sense. I had just been taking it as dissatisfaction at forced early learning program and then following around a not very promising potential king who insists on doing reckless tings, but maybe there is more to it!
And yes, I'd been wondering about the king's guard too - wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be working for the various rebellions, though if so, none of them seem to be aware of the fact...
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2 Isa is always time travelling
April 19, 2023 at 4:09 PM
The guessing game is ended but I still have so many doubts that I keep thinking in previous episodes trying to complete the puzzle.
There are things/hints/gestures/ that are (or have been) there for a reason, even in the background.
Agree with other beanies that Ryeoun acting is green and that's surely doing no favour to his character (San) but Kang Hoon and Shin Ye Eun are great for now. And I like the rest of the cast.
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3 jerrykuvira
April 19, 2023 at 4:30 PM
I'm shocked at everything. TSRG's who is who played me to the end. I didn't get one correct.
San being Lee Seol shocked me to the very end, he wasn't even on my radar. No does he exude princely aura. Yoo-ha on the other hand has the royal aura that made me believe that he was Lee Seol, until he wasn't but that was a twist with him being royalty.
And to the one who shocked me to the bone marrows, like the core - Shi-yeol. Watchman? Like...how? That was a plot twist I partly envisaged - he being skilled with the sword, but that was just it. I didn't expect beyond that. Alas! He's the watchman. The mystery behind his character, that playful attitude and all never made me peg him for watchman, but I pegged him for Lee Seol and swordsman. His interruption when Taehwa first raided Ihwawon now makes the perfect sense.
Still on Shi-yeol, that guy is persistent in his affection. His method of persuasion is enough to melt the heart of a lady who's meant to be dead but decides to take a risk and another shot at life. I commend him. He did well. And I've paired this two already from the very beginning.
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4 Lonestar Girl
April 19, 2023 at 4:36 PM
Does anyone else think these people are acting like they want to get caught? Bless their hearts, there is no discretion, and everyone is a blabber mouth. Like Dan-oh asking about that slow boat to China in the middle of the Buyeonggak. She knows she’s being watched, so what gives? The King, Minister Shin, Tae-hwa, the Queen Dowager, the Eunuch, Ban-ya, San’s backstabbing buddy, and probably the little dog that disappeared all appear to be in on the secret. Who’s left? And are they just waiting for Lee Seol to make an official announcement?
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 4:58 PM
@smulawyer: For sure. I’m still enjoying it but the plot contrivances have increased to my dismay. I hope that this will be able to stick the landing but I fear it might progressively deteriorate similar to countless other dramas which couldn’t maintain a coherent and cogent narrative all way to the end.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
April 19, 2023 at 7:51 PM
I said something like that to Emma yesterday. "San is going to get Dan Oh (and himself) killed.
Si Yeol is going to get Dan Oh’s unnie killed.
The minister and gisaeng-nim are going to get Yoo Ha killed."
San is way to obvious in front of the king, it's a miracle more people don't think he's suspicious. Si Yeol takes Dan Oh's unnie to public places. And the minister wants to tell everyone that Yoo Ha is Yi Seol.
Sometimes I wonder if the minister plan really is to put Yoo Ha in the throne or use him as a bait. Be could say Yoo Had is Yi Seol, send him to the king, let him die and at the same time get the real Yi Seol's attention.
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 9:03 PM
@enriquequierecagar: I’m also wondering whether the Administrator dude is really a complete baddie or using a ruse to find Yi Sol to help him become King. Did he try to kill Danoh’s sister after his son died? If so, that’s a horrific thing to do and relying on a cultural practice as an excuse makes it even more awful. But if she was hidden in the Annex not because of the administrator’s intent to find her and kill her in the wake of his son’s death, then his character might become more ambiguous.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
April 19, 2023 at 9:13 PM
Yeah, I can't trust him. We only have seen him manipulate people. He's always talking about a better Joseon but I haven't seen him do one good thing so far. He even let that other minister died because it was convenient for him.
Poor man, he was doing his job, that was all.
I don't think he tried to kill her. I think he just wanted to take her to his house so she could live as his son's widow. The problem is that she faked her death and now she's even flirting with the guy that killed his son.
I'm pretty sure that if he finds out about that he would kill her and the Watchman (Si Yeol).
He even asked for permission to kill Yi Seol to use him as a bait to get the watchman. The chief likes blood.
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 9:37 PM
And, something else which I forgot to add. in that flashback scene when the chief administrator is shown training his son and a few others, he says to his son, “You even told her to come here”. This scene intrigued me as it looks like he is training them in his house as he is dressed down and I thought maybe he was training a few members of the secret society including his son? His vibe was very different in that flashback scene so I wonder if there is much more to him than meets the eye.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
April 20, 2023 at 12:19 AM
I don't remember well the flashback, but my hypothesis is that Chief was just a regular guy. His son was ready to follow his footsteps and then he got killed.
He feels guilty about it but as a defense mechanism he decided to create this revenge drama where the watchman is the villain.
For me, one character that seems to have an interesting backstory is gisaeng-nim Hwa Reyong. I really wanna know what's her deal.
She's everyone's secret ally, she's Yoo Ha's mom?? she's the DCP's secret lover?? She's financing the members of Mokin, she's... a mystery.
Kareoz
April 20, 2023 at 1:27 AM
Yes the Six swords group and their purpose remains a bit of mystery that may yet prove important, but so far they seem to be a force for evil...repeatedly trying to kill Yee Seol!
lapislazulii
April 20, 2023 at 4:32 PM
YES!! omg I'm glad I'm not the only one who was like WHAT are you all doing??! It's not just the indiscretion with things like asking for a boat to China in a place that's literally HQ for Joseon Gossip (but also girl 💀), but even when Dan-oh or San or even Yoo-ha's mum are being confronted about whether something is true or not - they literally use every body language possible to scream 'I'm LYING'. It's the extended pauses, the flitting eyes, the dramatic swallowing and stammering - pls, I get that we as the audience need to know that they're 'hiding' something but I think we can pick up on more subtle ways of showing that too 😂
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Lonestar Girl
April 21, 2023 at 5:34 AM
YES! They have the worst poker faces. Lol, too funny.
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5 john
April 19, 2023 at 5:00 PM
Mistyisles, thanks for the recap.
Trying to pass Yoo-ha off as Lee Seol, what could go wrong ? 🙄
Shi-yeol is probably tired of killing people . Not sure he wants the throne. He would probably like to retire.
The King is still crazy. Will they kill him ?
Dan-o drunkenly talking smack about Najoo-daek‘s cooking . 🙂
How old is the gaesang , Hwa-Ryeong, supposed to be ?
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 5:14 PM
@john: Haha. I love your musings. Re Hwaryeong, the actor seems(!) to me to be in her thirties. If she became pregnant in her teens, it would be plausible as Yooha is likely in his early twenties, right?
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Kareoz
April 19, 2023 at 5:19 PM
Actress is actually 41 so yes certainly possible.
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john
April 19, 2023 at 5:54 PM
Yeah, I looked Han Chae-Ah bio. Her character doesn’t look old enough, lol
OMO, she was Seung-Cheon‘s momma in Golden Spoon ! I didn’t recognize her.
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Decraew
April 21, 2023 at 9:10 AM
I didn’t either ! When watching Golden Spoon I was thinking: what an utterly gorgeous woman… but she looks too young for the part
Nomorelisa
April 21, 2023 at 9:59 AM
When I saw Han Chae-Ah in She's The Only One, I was struck by her beauty. Not only is she pretty, she is a very good actress too. I was disappointed that she was not chosen as the main lead in the many dramas she acted in.
tabong is ironing the crosswalk
April 19, 2023 at 7:53 PM
For me, the eunuch was the most relatable character this week. He was like "so we have one CP, one fake CP and the current king... Idk what's going to happen but this is going to be crazy".
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6 lapislazulii
April 19, 2023 at 6:12 PM
After San was revealed as being Lee Seol, I had an inkling that Shi Yeol would be the watchman but I wasn't any less surprised when that reveal played out! Whilst I was invested in a Shi Yeol-is-Lee Seol story line, I'm actually excited to see his arc as the watchman though and how that ties into Dan-oh's sister's storyline and also the that one time someone called him 'your majesty/highness' (unless I hallucinated that??). I do understand why some might be not thrilled about how the 'who's who' has played out, but I guess we can't have it all with kdramas 😂 I'm surprised too that I'm not disappointed though given how passionate I was about my other guesses, but I reckon, regardless of thoughts on the reveal, the pacing still stands strong. The intensity is definitely starting to heat up, and I'm excited to see the fall out when everything comes out into the open - soon by the looks of things.
I'm actually less interested with each episode in the romance, and more interested in the court politics/the potential coup coming up which is astounding because it's almost the always the other way around for me and sageuks. I am just quite literally so thoroughly invested in seeing this Yoo-ha v San thing come to a head, what the Left State Councillor's and head Eunuch's end games are AND also whatever is going on with the Queen and the King. I love that they're both cunning and somewhat edging 'deranged' - it's positively refreshing because it makes them a match made in heaven and somehow also makes both their evilness tolerable because they're BOTH as bad as each other lol. If that makes sense!
Going back to San and Yoo-ha though, I think lowkey Yoo-ha would make a better King because he's got more of a level head on his shoulders but he isn't without emotions. San seems a tad on the impulsive and reckless side, which makes sense given he's been on the run and is largely running on blind revenge at the moment, but god boy if you want to succeed in your plan you really need to HIDE your emotions better! Him and Dan-oh literally have their thoughts spelled out, in bright neon, on their faces and it makes me want to 🤦♀️.
And finally, the icing on this ramble, my one qualm is that I feel like Dan-oh's doing nothing and has been pushed off 'stage' somewhat as the episodes go. Everyone's got things to do and is doing them - even her sister - and she's just sort of there reacting to whatever is happening around her. I hope she gets more of an active role going forward!
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DancingEmma
April 19, 2023 at 8:53 PM
@lapislazulii: Really good point about Danoh. She has become too much of a damsel in distress for my liking. I have lost interest in her romance too but now I am more invested in finding out whether or not Shiyeol is playing her sister or is genuinely interested in her. They have chemistry together for sure.
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lapislazulii
April 20, 2023 at 4:28 PM
Actually now that you've 'verbalised' it, I DO wonder what his intentions with the sister are?? It's the 'mysterious' lines and looks on his face that make you think that it isn't just a love story between those too......I do wonder what'll happen at the end.
Also now that you've put me on this train of thought, I did originally/am still to a degree predicting the Yoo-ha v San showdown towards the end but what if it ends up being Shi Yeol v San or something. Because there's been scenes peppered throughout that have shown us that Shi Yeol has something in the past he doesn't want to talk about and doesn't really like that he's been forced to live a certain way - it wouldn't take much for all that to form into a grudge against San (as a figurehead at least) for being the reason behind his "misery"of sorts.
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DancingEmma
April 20, 2023 at 4:49 PM
And, you have just made me think of that possible showdown that I hadn’t thought of before! It seems that Shiyeol was probably forced into the life of a watchman since childhood and if so, that is horrific as well as very sad. What if he had a revenge plan of his own against the Royalty and its network for depriving him of his freedom and agency?
I just love to bits how Kang Hoon is bringing this character to life. He outshines everyone by a mile. Jung Gunjoo is deeply likeable (to me) but is not exactly acting up a storm. He just beams or conveys sorrow and that gorgeous face does some of the heavy-lifting but Kang Hoon is an acting treasure.
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lapislazulii
April 20, 2023 at 5:11 PM
Yeah AND maybe - this is a REAL stretch though ahaha - his initial attraction to HJ comes from his view that she's also a collateral victim of the Royalty, so she - theoretically - might be sympathetic to any flavour of revenge that he's cooked up. Even if none of our theories come to fruition, it's so fun coming up with them and bouncing off one another!
I agree whole heartedly also about your points on the actors. I also think Jung Gunjoo is playing his character just wonderfully and infusing some of that depth into the role so that YH isn't just the uptight, righteous flower scholar but Kang Hoon is another level. He's really elevating this show - he's elevated just about every show he's been in, even with limited screen time (Little Women 👀) - a great (and smart) casting decision by the team for Secret Guesthouse!
DancingEmma
April 20, 2023 at 5:27 PM
You clever person! I hadn’t thought of that possibility! The long game!
It is indeed so much fun to bounce things off each other! I’m a bit sick in bed and miserable but you have cheered me up! Thank you🥰
too_much_tv
April 20, 2023 at 7:59 AM
Yes, Danoh has been relegated to reacting to the plot instead of being at the center of the plot. This is waste. Shin Ye-Eun is fun to watch. On the other hand, she had a plan to betray the CP to save her home, and it involved possibly betraying one of the people who were staying with her? Also, did she originally think that the boy she helped was the CP? Or did she not put that together until she showed her sister the compass?
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lapislazulii
April 20, 2023 at 4:25 PM
It sounded like she didn't actually know that the boy she helped was the CP till the compass thing came up again!
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7 Kurama
April 19, 2023 at 9:21 PM
I'm happy that Shi-Yeol is not only a lazy schoolar because he was the best when he was doing mystery things. But I have issue with his age... He looks like he's around the same age than San and Yoo-Ha and not 10 years older. He had to be an adult when he killed Hong-joo's husband.
It's the same for Hwa-Ryeong, they made like she was the mother of Yoo-Ha but she doesn't look so older than him...
For the characters, Dan-oh is good player of go but in the real life she's pretty stupid. She's not discreet by asking for a boat like in the middle of people, dropping the compass, etc.
I can't imagine San being King. He's a good person but he hasn't any royal aura or authority. He doesn't seem to have a big plan. It doesn't help that the actor is not very charismatic.
Becoming a watchman looks like very difficult and dangerous. I wonder what Shi-Yeol had to go through to become the best guard of Joseon!
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Kurama
April 19, 2023 at 11:35 PM
Oh the poster did give us the answer about who was the Prince aka Snowflakes. San and Dan-Oh's poster was for the Winter season.
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too_much_tv
April 20, 2023 at 8:02 AM
Isn't Watchman a job title? There isn't only one. Correct? So he doesn't have to be old enough to have killed his new girlfriend's fiancé. Which is why it seems insane for her fiancé's father to be pursuing "the Watchman." He even knows that there is funding for a corps of elite fighters to do the job! Also, the villainous not-going-to-be-a-father-in-law guy threatened Dan-Oh and called her "lowly"--but he arranged a marriage between his son and her sister? What?
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lapislazulii
April 20, 2023 at 4:42 PM
From the flashback it seems like he was sort of begrudgingly accepting of his son and Hong-joo, mainly because he loved his son so it was like 'yeah alright if you like him too'. My read on it was that, after his son died, he just became really bitter so that extended to anyone who would remind him of his son - including the sister of his daughter in law I suppose? I wouldn't be surprised if there was a missing piece of the flashback puzzle that showed us that somehow or for some reason Hong-joo/her family was inadvertently the reason why the son was fighting the watchmen that night.
But yes seconding the point about Watchman just being a title - I do wonder how he knows that song though that her fiancé used to sing? World's biggest coincidence or he's got some connection that we're yet to be made aware of.
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Decraew
April 21, 2023 at 9:13 AM
Exactly. Also, San didn’t know him and the watchmen were supposed to be always very near.
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8 Bunny Sonaki
April 19, 2023 at 10:43 PM
I love how the drama is quick-paced, answer a question and 10 new questions arise.
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Kareoz
April 20, 2023 at 1:34 AM
Indeed. One of mine being, where is the money for San's rebellion coming from/going to? He seems to be rolling in it, whereas Watchman Shi Yeol, who is supposed to be getting funding from palace seems to have none!
We know Left Minister is funding Yoo ha; is he also secretly funding San or is the money coming from elsewhere, and if so, where???
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Bunny Sonaki
April 20, 2023 at 5:53 AM
The late crown prince's bodyguard (the one San asked to let him meet the watchman) handed over some funds but I don't know if it is from the dowager or not.
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Kareoz
April 20, 2023 at 3:26 PM
YesI meant the ultimate source - we've seen the various money laundering/delivery schemes for delivery of funds, via bodyguard, gambling, Byeonggak innkeeper etc.
But dowager didnt seem to be even aware Yee Seol was still alive and kicking when she talked to Eunuch, let alone about to launch a rebellion so can't see how she can be source of funds for it (unless she was dissembling because she can't trust him, which would be reasonable).
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9 FormAnOrderlyQueue
April 20, 2023 at 2:18 AM
Thanks for the recap @mistyisles! Totally agree with other beanies about weaknesses and having to just roll with it, but it's still entertaining!
I actually thought Si Yeol might be the watchman from about episode 3. The minute he came across as such a hapless idiot I began to suspect it was an act. Confirmed every time he announced he was too weak to do something, and absolutely confirmed when he was willing to be tortured as the deposed heir despite not being it (as he isn't in possession of something with "Pyeong" on it). From what we've seen of the "watchmen school", looks like recruits are brought in as children - I suspect he was sent there by others and had no choice about becoming a killer. For that, he's regretful. The interesting question is why was he sent - who made a deal with whom that required him to sign up?
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Isa is always time travelling
April 20, 2023 at 4:13 AM
I started to suspect when he knew how to heal San's injure. And when enduring the torture too.
But then in the last episodes he always was touching San's injured arm as if he wanted it never heals... It was strange.
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DancingEmma
April 20, 2023 at 7:11 AM
He was trying to see if it had healed without being explicit about it. That’s how I interpreted it.
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10 too_much_tv
April 20, 2023 at 11:45 AM
Thanks for the recap! Reading the comments, I feel like others have identified why the series, while maintaining its suspense and pace, has become slightly less interesting. While the romance remained undeclared and subtextual, Yoon Dan Oh was a very interesting character. Now she and San have lost the individuality that came from the FL's having initiative and drive, and the young actors themselves having playfulness. Now they have to act like they are In Love, and it's tiresome. It's almost like the people who write romances don't understand why they grab us, when they grab us. The leads have to be people who want things--each other, but other things, too. The minute a FL is only focused on worrying, she fades into the background.
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Kareoz
April 20, 2023 at 3:38 PM
I still have hope that things will heat up a bit over next few episodes and some new twists come into play that will liven things up, certainly plenty of hooks to do so.
On Danoh, up til now she has been pretty proactive, and at some point that approach surely has to come into play in her interactions with the king. It is true that it is increasingly looking like the rebellions and political machinations will take front seat, consigning her to a more passive role, but I still have hope that she will find a way of turning around her interactions with the king in some positive way for the cause rather than just lead to her being a damsel in distress needing to be rescued by San.
I also really really hope there is more to Shi Yeol's background then is apparent as yet, though I'm less optimistic about this at the moment (was the your majesty thing just a joke amongst watchmen or was there something more to it???).
And there are still enough hooks out there posing unresolved questions, especially on how the rebellion(?s) will play out, Left State Ministers true loyalties, reasons for secrecy around Innkeeper's relations with CP and/or Grand Prince, which way the eunuch will jump etc.
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Jingbee
April 30, 2023 at 9:46 PM
"The minute a FL is only focused on worrying, she fades into the background"..
This! 100% agree. Have been disappointed with countless dramas this way. A variation of this is when the FL suddenly just focuses on pining for her love. Sigh.. and I thought this show would have been an exception.
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too_much_tv
May 1, 2023 at 6:12 AM
There are a lot of episodes left. Maybe the writers will remember that her character used to have agency? I don't know. They do like surprises, so perhaps that will be a surprise at the end.
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11 Toodlepip
April 21, 2023 at 6:48 AM
So the real mystery for me is where does Shi Yeol keep his Watchman gear. Is it under his day clothes? Does he keep several stashed around Hangsang ready for a quick change in the Joseon equivalentof a phone box? What would be the Joseon equivalent of a phonebox?
And that hat can't be easy to hide...
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too_much_tv
May 1, 2023 at 6:14 AM
That's why the kids need so much training. It's not the fighting that's difficult to learn, or the first aid training, it's hiding the gear.
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