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Trolley: Episodes 7-8

What a bunch of episodes! What starts off as a husband’s rescue mission of righteous anger ends on a huge bomb drop. And with said bomb drop comes broken trust, about a hundred unsettling thoughts, and a lot of questions around our favorite married couple.

 
EPISODES 7-8 WEECAP

I was fully planning to open this week’s coverage by talking about the husbands in this show, and how their devotion to their wives is so nice to watch. Joong-do, as we soon see play out, comes to his wife’s rescue in a way that made me swoon, and Ki-young was willing to live alone with his miserable mother-in-law so his wife could get some mental peace. However, as the episodes progressed, my plans went to pot, as there is now reason to doubt the integrity of Joong-do — and dang, that was literally the last thing I ever expected to say about him.

But before everything shatters, we have our hero swoop in to save his wife from Seung-hee’s unhappy clutches. They won’t open the door? No problem, I’ll just ram the car outside to get their attention. That doesn’t work? I’ll just drive my car right through their gate, nbd, broken rib and all. In other words, thanks to Woo-jae’s information gathering abilities, Joong-do learns about the incident from his wife’s past and refuses to let her be trampled on by Seung-hee and her family. At one point he even says what we’re all thinking: “Why would you apologize!? You did nothing wrong.”

There were so many powerfully acted scenes this week, but this confrontation between Seung-hee, Hye-joo, and Joong-do was definitely my favorite. Guilt, trauma, anger, grief — there are so many emotions layered into this story (and this scene). Joong-do and Hye-joo leave somewhat victorious (in that no apology was forced), and they face a long silent drive home. It’s not till they arrive that Hye-joo apologizes to her husband for the mess this will cause him. Ever the perfect husband (*please stay true*), he tells her he’ll take care of everything. He also says that he believes her side of the story — because it’s you — repeating his sweet line from a few episodes ago.

Joong-do believes Hye-joo — and so do I — but no one can actually prove the truth. And that’s the problem, right? We explore this issue through Hye-joo’s past and through the ongoing aftermath of the med student’s suicide: what happens to the victim of a sexual crime when the assailant commits suicides and effectively aborts the entire investigation?

The injustice of both of these scenarios riles up Joong-do, and he’s committed to proposing an amendment to the law to prevent this from continuing. We see him telling his staff Hye-joo’s story (off camera), and later winning the support of Chairwoman Woo. He’s warned by everyone how an amendment like this will never pass, but Joong-do’s desire to make positive change has him using all his wiles. He needs public support if he’s going to shake up the status quo, and he knows it. As he tells Chairwoman Woo: “Controversy will make what’s impossible possible.”

This same idea is hammered in again later on in another loaded scene with Hye-joo, where she begs Joong-do to stop using the media to elevate the case of Perilla Grandma, her granddaughter, and the deceased med student. For Hye-joo, the pain of these people is unbearable, but here — brace your hearts — we see the first splinters in our couple’s likemindedness. Joong-do’s very opposing opinion is this: collateral damage is inevitable for the greater good. And there it is. He basically gave us our trolley dilemma setup again.

Now, in all fairness, Perilla Grandma gave Joong-do permission to “use” her story to accomplish his noble goals. But I have a feeling Hye-joo isn’t going to agree when her own story comes to light. I mean, it hasn’t happened yet, but if this week’s episodes didn’t put a giant lump of dread in your stomach, nothing will. I also hate to remind us all of Woo-jae’s earlier question to Joong-do, trying to get him to say if he values his wife or the good he can do as a politician more.

While all this is going on, we are given more reason to doubt each of our supporting characters. This adds to the suspense, but is also making me feel a bit like Hye-joo, with a thousand broken pieces around me.

To start, Woo-jae is growing in shadiness, and he definitely leaked the news of the med student’s video upload to the press. He also meets secretly one night with Yeo-jin. Turns out Yeo-jin also suffered huge tragedies in her past and he had once tried to help her. But now, it looks like she wants to tell him something that she shouldn’t. Gulp. She doesn’t actually do it, but now I’ve got so many questions in my head. Mostly, though, I’m just sad for Hye-joo and how it’s going to feel if/when her trust in these people is broken, especially since this week we saw her break down and tell Yeo-jin about the assault in her past.

Rounding out our suspicious supporting characters is Soo-bin, who’s been sulking around the house for far too long. Outside of getting a bloody lip and selling off a designer bag, I thought for a second she was relegated to Dyson PPL… until we start to see more of her towards the end of the week’s episodes. Not only do we learn that she’s had a miscarriage, but she keeps it a secret from Hye-joo, and uses some (yet unknown) leverage to get Yeo-jin to help her. Ack!

Soo-bin continuous to baffle me. She lights up whenever Hye-joo is kind to her, and she’s so starved for this woman’s attention that I don’t understand it (and I really don’t think it’s her secret daughter; they’ll have to work hard to convince me of that). Why is Soo-bin in their house anyway? Why so many secrets? Why so much pouting? At the end of our episodes, Soo-bin leaves the house, possibly for good, but stops to stare at the business card of Joong-do. There’s a little red heart next to his name. Nooooo. Guess that “JD” tattoo was for him after all.

Intercut with this Soo-bin reveal is our poor heroine. She’s looking in Joong-do’s study for an envelope to mail some photos of Ji-hoon when she spots something hidden at the back of a desk drawer. It’s Ji-hoon’s very noticeable red cell phone. You know, the one Joong-do told her the police never recovered. And on said phone is (ostensibly) his final text conversation with Soo-bin. He begs not to break up with her (okay, at least we know they were really dating!) and threatens to commit suicide. It looks like his last message never sends, but we all know what happened after that.

Or do we? Because now everything I thought I knew I’m questioning. Just the fact that Hye-joo found the phone there raises a million implications — viz., how much more does Joong-do know than he’s telling Hye-joo? But this reveal being intercut with the weirdness that is Soo-bin only makes matters worse. In other words, this is where @DaebakGrits and I have an emergency chat, sharing questions and theories. There are many, but I think I can distill my own thoughts into one: Why can’t I just have one happily married non-lying K-drama couple? We were about to set a record.

Now, there is a chance that it’s not as bad as it may seem, and to back up this hope, I need only remember Joong-do’s brokenness when he went to his wife’s studio to mourn the death of the med student and, obliquely, Ji-hoon. That scene was the realest thing ever, and it speaks to their marriage bond as much as it does his integrity, and his love of his son. And then there are all those tender gazes he gives Hye-joo. I truly believe he loves her, and is doing all this politicking to prevent others suffering like she did, but… I have questions!

Trolley has spent its first half building all this tension and emotion through these beautifully interwoven scenarios. And now? Now that it’s all been built, it’s time for us to watch it all come down. The fact that the trolley problem was directly addressed between Hye-joo and her daughter made me realize this was definitely a turning point in the story. And though I care about this family and this marriage, I really care the most about Hye-joo. She’s been shown to be so kind and (overly?) empathetic — but also delicate and damaged. I don’t know how much more she can take until she shatters completely.

 
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I was fully planning to open this week’s coverage by talking about the husbands in this show, and how their devotion to their wives is so nice to watch. ...However, as the episodes progressed, my plans went to pot, as there is now reason to doubt the integrity of Joong-do — and dang, that was literally the last thing I ever expected to say about him.

Trolley is one of those shows I most times read the recaps before watching and the strings it pulls still has the same effect despite the recaps serving as an absorber, it takes time to have it available in my region. It's not even available as I'm typing.
@missvictrix the fact that you lead the recaps with this is giving several emotions all at once. I hope it's not what they're teasing. He can be bad in any area but please not an affair with Soo-bin.

I thought we'll be having this through thick and thin couple without any cracks in the wall. Is it too much to ask of dramaland?

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As far as Soo bin, my theory is that JD refers to that other guy in the phone photo with Ji-hoon. By my theory, JD was Soo bin's boyfriend, and when Soo bin went with Ji-hoon instead, he threatened to kill them both; Soo bin tried to break up with Ji-hoon to save him, JD killed Jo-hoon planting meth on him, and Soo bin ran to Ji-hoon's parents in an attempt to save herself. Convoluted? Yes, but I think the writers throughout have been feinting about Joong Do's unfaithfulness. Obviously, I could be dead wrong.

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Believe me when I say this postulation is a breathe of fresh air to me. It calmed me down, literally. I do not want a scandal or a love child. So I am seriously wishing you're not wrong nor totally wrong nor it isn't what I'm fearing.

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Yes, these are my thoughts exactly, lol. Otherwise why show the other guy in the photo.

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I'm much more leaning towards your theories than the ML slept w/ Soo-bin. I knew there'd be another 'JD' and that was to throw us off. He doesn't like her because he has the phone-WHY? He's FOR SURE a politician, so anything he does he justifies for his own end. I LOVE Hye-Joo-was there ever a sweeter, kinder mother/person? This is just heartbreaking and she's getting so much dumped on her-I think she'll have a tough decision down the road. Soo-bin can't help but be drawn to her. Soo-bin is secretive, but I don't think she's all bad and redeemable. I just don't know where this is going, but I am in it to the end. It's so well written (by sadists) and acted. At this point, I would def send the 'Trolley' straight at the ML. Then again, twists are expected and I might send it toward the witch (land grabber) and her daughter (that's just two tho-I can add three more later). That poor husband should just get out-he's just in HELL. How can he still love his psycho wife w/ that mother that's BS crazy? Is this 'Noble Idiocy' of another sort? The 'friend/housekeeper' def has something-cancer is usually the go to and I hate that. She's so good too (what is the shade Soo-Bin is throwing at her tho?) I just don't know what pocket to put the ML's aide. He can come off so smooth and then sound like the enforcer. I want to trust, but it's feeling like there's something dark about him. Maybe he'll be on the Trolley path list I'm making. Time will tell and BOY am I mad that wonderful marriage isn't. I hope the daughter gets more screen time cos she put her foot in her mouth w/ her friend in this last episode. She's gonna eat those words. I feel such dread for Hye-Joo-love her.

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I think this is the best explanation for the Soobin situation. It rings true with what I felt, although I hadn’t thought through the other guy threatening to kill them both! That’s a good and logical twist. I like this theory as Soo bin and Joong Do would really ruin the show.

I have also wondered if Soobin is Yeo-Jin’s daughter? With Joong Do (hence the ❤️) as unknowing father? Could explain the heart and her dislike of them both.

I love the show based on the Trolley dilemma, esp because both main characters are good people with generous hearts who want to do good in the world. It’s a very realistic portrayal of what might happen when we’ll meaning people try to take action, and find themselves compromising or hurting others. Very interesting.

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@missvictrix Thanks for the recap. I really like this show, but two things bug me about it. The whole setup is how a solid marriage and family life is jeopardized by a politicians career and well-intentioned decision making. But the show never proved to me, at least, that the marriage was that great. From the beginning of the show Hye-Joo appeared upset and unhappy; her husband was neglectful, and except for a couple of half-hearted attempts at physical intimacy, turned away laughingly by Hye-Joo, I haven't seen any evidence of really deep affection. So he believed his wife when she says she was raped and is obviously totally distraught at it being brought up and so traumatized that she couldn't mention it for 16 years? Wow, what trust! Why didn't he straight out ask her rather then send his cynical political operative to investigate? Sure, he broke a rib trying to get into the house, but is that because he cared for his wife or because he is worried about his career? I realize that a lot of these doubts are intentional on the shows part, but still I think it was key to establish the depth of trust and love between them before setting the plot in motion. Otherwise, it just doesn't work.

And second, because the show gave me little to believe in the overall happiness of the marriage, the trolley dilemma disappears, because the choice won't be between the death of the marriage and the death of his political career. The marriage is already not that great, because he's already privileged his political career!

In thinking about this, I guess what I'm objecting to is the Trolley dilemma conceit. As a portrait of a shaky marriage being put under additional strain by the death of a stepson and an ambitious politician, I think its very well done so far.

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One other thing--is it really that common in Korea for men guilty of sexual offenses--rape, posting of explicit videos, etc. to kill themselves? Because in the U.S. it certainly isn't. In fact the common response not just on the part of society but also on the part of the assailant is to blame the victim. The idea that the parents of the rapist deserve enormous sympathy would not be an issue in the U.S. because there would be no suicide. Hye-joo's excessive empathy is perfectly understandable, because sadly, like many victims of sexual assault, she partially blames herself, but the need for legislation to continue investigation after the perpetrator's death seems to hinge on the assumption that the guilty party will commit suicide, which seems unusual to me.

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@hacja Just on the marriage bit.... I should just speak for myself, but I do think the females in the room were a bit (happily) dumbfounded to have a drama about a married couple that deeply care about each other. I also think the drama was positive enough about them (at least initially) -- JD would go to HJ for comfort, she's devoted to him and feels safe with him, his keeping of the promises he made to her, etc. -- to make it feel solid. But, of course you're right. There are serious cracks that are growing, and each week they grow a bit more. I think that's what I love about the drama. You want to think everything is solid because the story is quiet, but really the whole thing is quicksand. And the drama is totally having fun making us second guess everything!

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Thanks for your reply! I agree, it is really unusual to have a marriage being portrayed that is based on affection and consideration. Even the portrayals of marriage based on love often show fighting overwhelming the love, then divorce, then if its a happy ending, love overcoming the bickering, or love meaning in the end you are reconciled when your partner goes to someone else equally loving but more compatible. (Am I anticipating a can we be strangers moment coming soon? Why, yes, I am!)

But given this standard dismissal of the possibilities of a long lasting, happy marriage, that's why I perhaps irrationally needed some more scenes of deep happiness before seeing things began to crack apart. Or, alternatively Hye-joo briefly content before relapsing into traumatized melancholy.

However, I do agree with you on the real strengths of the shows story telling and the way it promotes doubt on the part of the viewer, without being ridiculously manipulative or introducing out of nowhere plot twists.

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Not sure what others think but couples married for 20 years behaving lovey dovey are rare. Sign of a happy marriage lies in the comfort with and trust in each other. So, I personally think JD and HJ are happily married with the latter contended at her own corner so long as not being pushed to the political front of her husband’s works. JD is no doubt politically ambitious but HJ is his ‘comfort hinterland’ although his over-protectiveness is underestimating HJ’s resolve and ability.

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I'm open to disagreement on my interpretation of the show, but that is exactly what I am saying--there should have been more trust displayed by JD. Also, there is a clear lack of communication regarding the stepson. Finally, what gets me the most is that in 16 years, the early history of HJ should have come up enough so that he knew there was a troubling event in the past, even if she was too traumatized to reveal the details. She would have been vague or anxious when discussing her childhood.
Also, I'm not sure what you define as lovey-dovey. I'm not talking public displays of affection, but rather intimacy, rather than strained silence in private. I'm sure there are marriages where communication has ceased. But they aren't good marriages.

Finally, I am speaking from experience not only from my own 36 year marriage, but also from those of my friends and relatives who are my age and obviously in happy marriages. At the risk of too much information, I am happy to say that an occasional lovey-doviness is not rare!

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As fun as it was to have my emergency chat with you @missvictrix, I wish it had been to squee. RIP new favorite couple. 😭 I really, really didn't want Joong-do to devolve into a lizard, but he's on the cusp of becoming one. Here's hoping that doesn't happen!

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"Why can’t I just have one happily married non-lying K-drama couple? We were about to set a record."

I know!!! And it doesn't help that Yoon-seo's classmate's dilemma over her father's affair feels like a foreshadowing to whatever shady business is going on with Joong-do. Sigh.

In other news, Seung-hee is going to explode if she finds out that Ki-young had a thing for Hye-joo in high school. Heh.

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@unit Yeah I really hate that cheating father foreshadowing. Once and I shrugged it off, but twice and..... ahhhh

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Is this the same writer that penned "Do You Like Brahms?" If so, I have more faith that Joong-do will NOT turn out to be a cheating weasel, but actually is the decent guy he appears to be. That show was all about how our own insecurities prevent us from trusting others, or make us see the worst in them. I'm hopeful the same types of themes are being worked out in this drama, too.

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@laurensophie I'm with you, but not to keep on flogging a careening trolley, if at the end Joong-do doesn't choose his marriage, even if rapists are committing suicide right and left, leaving distraught family members to blame the victims everywhere, then he is worse than a cheating weasel, in my opinion!

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At the end of our episodes, Soo-bin leaves the house, possibly for good, but stops to stare at the business card of Joong-do. There’s a little red heart next to his name. Nooooo. Guess that “JD” tattoo was for him after all.

That was my first thought as well. But it's possible that Soo-bin took the business card of Yun-seo's wall. (their daughter)

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I'm also really shocked by Ki-yeong this week. At first, I thought he was feeling protective of Hye-ju because he called Joong-do to his house when Hye-ju was being blackmailed by Seung-hee.

But even after he confirmed that Hye-ju is not lying about the assault, he *still* asks her to apologize to his mother-in-law. SO WRONG. I was really upset about that.

No matter what, Seung-hee is headed for real trouble. Based on the preview, [spoiler removed!]

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@rainbowdash I'm sorry, I had to edit your comment since we try not to include preview scenes here in the recaps (for the weirdos like me that never watch previews).

Also, I totally agree on Ki-young, although I loved that he said, "I can tell by looking at your eyes that you're not lying." Everyone is so busy reacting to everyone else's trauma in this show!

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Ah no problem. Thank you for letting me know and I will be mindful of that in the future.

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I think that Joong-do doesn't like Soo-bin is because he knew she was the one who made his son kill himself from reading text on his phone. He doesn't want Hye-joo knows about it so he hide the phone. Or he doesn't want the police know about the existence of Soo-bin because it is complicate things or not give favors to his political career. It is not because he has an affair with Soo-bin. The little heart on the card is because Soo-bin took it from Joong-do and Hye-joo's daughter's room.

What I don't like how the writer easily makes suicide as an attempt to make the plot rolling. How many more people are going to do suicide in this drama, writer? In reality, it is humans' instinct to hold on to their life. Many people threaten to do suicide but only few really do it because death is a scary thing while face on.

And why can the assaulters' family just know their place and being grateful the victim doesn't send their son to jail? And going so far to ask the victim to apologize to them? What is it with this entailment? Is it because Sk is patriarchal society that it is okay for men to treat woman in such away? I'm so mad Ki-young asks Hye-joo to apologize like Dude I thought you ever liked her sometime in the past?

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I'm not defending all the suicides and attempted suicides on this show. But one thing consistent about all of them is that they are each trying to send a message by dying. The message being a giant "F*** YOU" to the people they are angry towards.

Again, I'm not defending that, and it's definitely never the right solution. But that's the story this show is telling.

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Suicide or death upon themselves is not thing people/human choose on a whim, it has to be a long process. But this writer seems not know that or try to ignor or just not understand. That makes major eye roll, like people in this drama hear their reputation going to ruin on one night and choose to die by suicide the next morning just because they want to show other people their middle finger. But really writer-nim? 👀

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The show is trying so hard to make us doubt Joong Do, that I trust him even more. LOL
All the little "hints" are of things that have nothing to do with him. JD could be anyone in Soo Bin's life, and Joong Do probably hide the cellphone to protect Hye Joo's feelings.
So far, he has been consistent and honest, so this random hints that aren't connected to anything he has said/done in the past (that had any real impact on the story) can't convince me that he's a bad guy.
And even if he turns out to be "a bad guy" I think it would be related to the campaign, not his son's death or Soo Bin.

I'm actually more concerned about the love he has for Hye Joo? It seems like he could destroy someone else's house for her, and he will try to change the law for her. I think he could do anything for her (even if he gets hurt in the process), and that's... kind of scary because he could hurt himself or others in the process of protecting her.

The person that REALLY scares me the most is Woo Jae. I wonder how many wth things this guy has done behind Joong Do's back. He seems to have no limits and no empathy. He creeps me out, tbh (I'm find fake and/or passive-agressive people scary as hell). The way he talks, always threatening people, always testing Joong Do... this guy is dangerous, imo.
I really don't like that he's out there representing Joong Do. They definitely don't share the same values.

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Ditto on Woo-jae. I think Joong-do knows and is aware about the different values they share even though their interests have been aligning. Joong-do telling Woo-jae to dig into Hye-joo's past assault, making it a request from Hye-joo's husband, Joong-do, and not Assemblyman Nam kinda said it point and clear that while Joong-do might not know the full extent of how much he can and has veer off his intentions, Joong-do knows that he(Woo-jae) can and does.

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I'm not sure Joong Do knows how far Woo Jae can go, tho. I don't think he would trust him that much of he knew.

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Ha ha I like Woo-jae. He is the guy whom you look for to get the job done. He never presented himself as a 'good guy' and really sends message to people around him "I'm not the guy you messed with, I can go miles. So you better watch out".

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That's exactly why I don't like him. 😂
1. His suspicious strategies could backfire at any minute (and the one dealing with the consequences is Joong Do).
2. He doesn't care who gets hurt in the process (like what happened with the video and halmoni).

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“ The show is trying so hard to make us doubt Joong Do, that I trust him even more. LOL”

Ditto from me. Red herrings?

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Yep.
They're just messing with us.

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I've been a bit unsure about Woo-jae since the beginning and I still am.

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At the beginning, when he said they could use Soo Bin I thought "that's his job, that's how politics work", but after the conversation he had with her on the van I started to find him suspicious.

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He was rough with her in the van and left a bruise on her arm, but that didn’t seem to go anywhere.

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The twist was unexpected and I no longer can predict how the drama will go, which means I am enjoying this drama.

I do not think Joong Do is the bad guy, but someone else is painting him to be. I now feel suspicious of his boss lady played by our favorite Ajhumma!

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It looked like Woojae cut Yeojin off on purpose when she started to say what she wanted to tell him. He seemed to know that it was something about Joongdo, that’s why he said that the best decision of his life was following JD. Yeojin retreated and WJ was like, go ahead, tell me, is it about the assemblyman? Not to make her feel guilty for telling him something bad about his hero, but letting her know that he is loyal to JD and he wouldn’t let anyone harm him.

Gah! What is it? What is it! And is it what Soobin has on Yeojin?

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I am getting more trust issues because of this drama 😂😂😂Lots of theories, lots of questions and even the answers we get might turn out to be a red herring.
The whole apology to Seung-hee's mother arc is infuriating and I agree with fellow beanies wanting a trolley to take that crazy family away from us. It is now set in stone that Seung-hee's husband is in love with Hye-joo but the scene of him emotionally blackmailing Hye-joo into an apology was exasperating. He had better go ahead and escape that house before turning into a complete weirdo.
I didn't expect the phone scenario. The whole Soo-bin arc is suspicious enough but now things are worse. For now, I am leaning towards Soo-bin being the staying ajumma's daughter. She might have been abandoned as a child and that explains why she is too attached to Hye-joo the complete opposite of her mother.

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I binged up to date, and im really liking Trolley. I cannot believe it only has a 6.3 rating.!! The underlying sexual assault/suicide/ guilt/name-clearing pursuit/revenge is (can I say?) well done. What I mean is the story and characters are compelling and I’m not rooting for anyone to go down, imagine that. Does anyone recognize handsome Woo-Jae (kim Mu Yul) from My Beautiful Bride?

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Me too! He's been in other newer dramas, but I've always recognized him for his role in My Beautiful Bride. :]

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