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The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

The end of our forbidden tale brings with it a final and swift showdown between our heroes and the baddies, leaving us with sweetness — tons of it — and plenty of romance to go round.

 
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The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

As we approach the climax of the drama, the queen selection process proceeds towards its completion as well, with Lady Seo’s unrelenting effort to crown her daughter as queen. She lays out traps for the other candidates — from spiked drinks to her default kidnapping — but Hwa-yoon outwits her every time. At some point, Hwa-yoon — or rather, Shin-won disguised as Hwa-yoon — allows herself to be kidnapped, but it’s a bait to trail the kidnappers to their hideout, and round them up for arrest. By the way, Shin-won looks really good with his hair let down like that. Lol.

Heon tasks Minister Jo to handle the interrogation himself, and his henchman confesses to be the one behind the death of the crown princess and the subsequent women who died in her quarters. He refuses to name his master, though, but Heon is not done with him yet. Neither is Minister Jo, who intends to kill the guy in order to cover his tracks.

The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

In the meantime, So-rang gets arrested after being caught red-handed (or rather, rash-handed) as the mastermind behind the spiked tea — no thanks to the rash on her hands which developed after she touched the tea during her own private investigation. Talk about shooting herself in the foot! The wishy-washy dowager clearly knows the forces messing with the selection, but she chooses to go about it the political way: jailing So-rang in order to set a proper trap for Lady Seo and her minions.

Court Lady Won eventually returns to the palace after finding out that her husband married her sister and they both lovingly raised her son. Well, she wasn’t expecting her (ex) husband to stay single forever, and she’s content with being Cupid’s instrument to bring him and her sister together. So-rang feels like her current situation is about to mirror that of Court Lady Won (with Heon and her stepsister), but Court Lady Won absolutely refuses that fate for So-rang. With a little prodding and emotional blackmail here and there, she fishes out the court ladies on Lady Seo’s payroll — proving So-rang’s innocence, and So-rang is set free. Hooray!

But they’re not the only ones interested in a free and fair selection process. The Moseolodan, which is the association of single (and ready to mingle) citizens of Joseon, have been building over the course of the drama, and their ideals are spread around by ARTIST JEONG (Hong Shi-young a.k.a. Giriboy) — who pours the pain of his one-sided feelings for Hae-young into his bestselling (Joseon equivalent of a webtoon) “Dating Rules for Singles.” Lol.

The Moseolodan have finally had enough of the baddies messing with the selection and elongating the marriage ban, and they stage a protest to the palace with a demand to withdraw the ban. The gate is thrown open for them per Heon’s orders, and after a long, impassioned address concerning the crown princess’s murder and other selection hindering events, it’s time to announce the results of this year’s selection.

The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

Without further ado, we welcome the dowager to announce the winning candidate between Hwa-yoon and Hyeon-hee. It’s all for formality’s sake since they both know the winner already. Hwa-yoon had the highest score in the second round of the selection process, but in the final round, she expressed her desire to withdraw from the race because she had no reason to become queen. After all, the king is in love with her “competitor” and for the good of the country, royal marriages should be based on love rather than politics.

“Yes, I want Ye Hyeon-seon to be the queen,” Hwa-yoon insisted after the dowager warned that stepping down will make Hyeon-seon the default queen since they’re the last two candidates in the selection. Thus, the new queen is announced: Ye Hyeon-seon, and with great joy, Hyeon-hee (a.k.a fraudulent Hyeon-seon) steps forward. But wait. From the shadows, there’s another foot stepping forward, too. Ta-da, it’s So-rang!

“Who is the real Ye Hyeon-seon?” the dowager demands, as both ladies square up against each other. Hyeon-hee falters. So-rang is resolute. The dowager is already in the know, but she still calls their father (Eom Hyo-seob) out to clear the air, and the debate is settled. Lady Seo is arrested, Minister Jo looks the other way, and their father leads Hyeon-hee away. He’s so embarrassed to have believed Lady Seo’s words that his eldest daughter ran away with a man, and he cannot even look So-rang in the face. How sad.

Anyway, back to our selection process, the results are out, but the ball is in So-rang’s court. Heon already asked the question in the past, but she turned him down. “Will you be my queen?” he asks her again, and this time, it’s a yes! The crowd cheers, Shin-won wears a slight smile. Heon formally announces the end of the marriage ban, and everyone goes wild! The end. We can all go home now. Hehehe. Just kidding. But really, it’s all filler from here on out.

The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

It was such a good decision to not extend the drama beyond 12 episodes because they really stretched themselves to fill up the remaining 40 minutes-ish of the final episode. I mean, Instagram reel-like framing of the screen for the marriage proposal scenes of the many Joseon lovers? Are you kidding me? But it was kinda fun, though.

The late crown princess finally gets a proper gravesite, and it’s touching how So-rang is there to comfort the father of her predecessor. Hyeon-hee is made a slave, and Lady Seo is hanged. Minister Jo’s henchman leads back to his master as the mastermind of evil, and Minister Jo draws his sword against the king. He’s unrepentant to his final breath — a trait I appreciate in villains — and the king delivers the killing strike. No Min-woo pops up again to exchange pleasantries with the henchman (who kidnapped his sister), and I love that they let the henchman die by his hands.

The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

Unfortunately, while we watch everyone else in Joseon get married, we don’t witness the royal wedding — just So-rang in her wedding dress. Pffft. So-rang worries about not being suited for the position of queen, but there’s no one else who can understand the people better than someone who travelled round Joseon during her days as a tramp. Plus, since she was instrumental in ending the marriage ban, she can work with the king to enact more policies for the benefit of the people.

Gwang-yi’s words make sense, actually, and So-rang’s first policy is to extend maternity leave, and institute paternity leave, too. Heon gets hilariously terrified of the aftermath of childbirth, and he tells So-rang he just wants her alone, no children. He’s totally being a baby right now, and with him, I don’t think she needs another one. But when his suggestion for birth control is abstinence, So-rang is forced to shut down the idea. LMAO!

In the end, everyone finds their own person: from Hae-young and Artist Jeong, to the king’s eunuch and Court Lady Won — both of whom even adopt three kids! Hwa-yoon gets the lead role in Crash Landing on Shin-won (literally, as per their parents’ and So-rang’s machinations), and this is a pairing I can get behind. I almost developed cavities from all the sweetness involved in the never-ending filler scenes, but we got a happy ending for the people we care about, and that’s all that matters.

PS: Artist Jeong begins a new work: “The Forbidden Marriage.” Hopefully, it’s way more campy than its drama counterpart — which wasn’t bad, but was unnecessarily bogged down by the whole Minister Jo and Lady Seo nonsense.
PPS: It’s implied that the kids we see after the time skip are Shin-won’s son and So-rang’s daughter, but please do not tell me they’re setting them up to be each other’s first loves. *Facepalms* Goodness gracious! I’m out of here.

The Forbidden Marriage: Episodes 11-12 (Final)

 
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I feel like a lot of the plot was wasted on unnecessary filler. The villains had potential to be true evil, but we never learn their reasoning (or even why they were having an affair). The love triangle was doomed from episode one when So-Rang was predicted to be queen, so why even have one? Could've just had epic bromance instead of weird angst. And I still don't truly believe So-Rang was happy to become queen (how many times can a girl get kidnapped?). Aedaldang hijinks were more her style.

But there we tons of cute and fluffy moments, the supporting cast was hilarious, and the modern winks were fun. All and all, it was a typical fusion sageuk romance with some faux danger thrown in to mix it up.

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I appreciated the fluffy ending, as it came full circle to the absurdist tone at the beginning, and the anachronistic silliness of this drama at its best. I agree it was weakest when it tried for a more serious tone - the nonsensical villains with shaky motives, the let's crap on the second male lead as much as possible love triangle/melodrama, and so on. The fake haunting plot felt like a missed opportunity - they could've milked that for some fun quasi-horror moments instead of focusing on the Evil Stepmother and Minister Squinty.

Still, the premise was fun, at times it was genuinely hilarious, I loved the cast of characters, and the romance was nice thematically if not always in execution. I still feel like the chemistry between the leads wasn't really there, so the attempts at sexual tension felt forced to me. Ultimately, this was an enjoyable watch, but it probably won't go down as a particularly memorable one.

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Yes I wish it had retained it's silliness because that was the show's greatest strength. Still I enjoyed it more than I expected and I'll be happy to rewatch the funny parts in the future.

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It was a good one but not one I will return to. The comedy scenes were good and I really loved So-rang's antics and her chemistry with Shin-won but the whole romance plot felt forced and perhaps out of place as if So-rang must end up with Heon despite the logic since he is the lead.

The biggest weakness of the drama is the villains where we're really caricature. No motives no logic just nonsense and over-the-top arrogance.

Case in point: why did Jo kill the crown princess? To enthrone a queen of his own, to break down Heon, to kidnap and sell women? Was it the three? Why not install Hyun-hee as the queen earlier?
Was Seo in on the plan since the beginning? Why try to marry Hyun-hee to Shin-won when she wants her to be queen?
We got no motives no confrontations nothing whatsoever.

I think 12 episodes are stretched and the drama was dragged on midway. Just 6-8 episodes were enough.

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Your questions are valid. May I answer them?

why did Jo kill the crown princess? To (1) enthrone a queen of his own, (2) to break down Heon, (3) to kidnap and sell women? Was it the three? Completely (2) and a little bit of (1). As for (3), that was a plan/business idea that came into his head after Heon enacted the marriage ban.
Why not install Hyun-hee as the queen earlier?
Hyun-hee was using her own name then - Hyun-hee. But Lady Seo was a courtesan, and one who also got into bed with her clientele. Add in the fact that Lady Seo was the then concubine-turned-wife of So-rang's dad. You know maternal ancestry is really important when choosing Crown Princesses and Lady Seo had nothing close to a stellar ancestry, or stellar past. And I'm sure it transcends to her lacking a stellar character.
So Hyun-hee would be disqualified immediately her maternal roots are brought to the open. And even before then, I mean the Crown Princess thingy that Lady Seo began pushing for, I don't think anyone wanted to marry Hyun-hee as her bad character as a reputation precedes her. You don't need to know her face, just her name mention alone is enough to disqualify her character. As such they needed So-rang gone so Hyun-hee could use the name of the good child in the compound, and also use the name of the first daughter who's maternal origins are noble to note.

Was Seo in on the plan since the beginning? No. Why try to marry Hyun-hee to Shin-won when she wants her to be queen? Shin-won's family asked for So-rang's hands and Lady Seo was not having that at all. How can the daughter of the dead first wife get married first before my own daughter? You know how delusional her kind of people can be. It was never in Lady Seo's plan for Hyun-hee to be Queen as at that time. The country had already installed a Crown Princess. And now, with everything that has happened and the slot is vacant, why not be more greedy and shoot Hyun-hee up for the Queen's title.

The Forbidden Marriage didn't answer this questions directly or indirectly. They just left the information out there for us to watch, filter and then, connect the dots.

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Yeah, I understand your point. It is just that they showed us almost nothing about those caricature villains and sometimes I felt their actions were contradictory.
Thank you for clearing it up.

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Family status and background was everything back then in selecting crown princess/queen in Joseon dynasty. Even though Hyun Hee is born in a noble family (daughter of Minister of Personnel Ye), but Hyun Hee being the second daughter means that her mother Lady Seo is of lowborn origin ( a courtesan). Hence Hyun-hee would be disqualified immediately since maternal ancestry is extremely important in selecting the future queen.

Hence this is the reason why Hyun hee and her mother is so desperate to 'steal' Sorang real identity. Because Sorang/Hyeon Seon being the eldest daughter would mean that she is the legitimate daughter of the family. Yangban/Joseon upper class guys can only take another noble lady as official wife. Hence from Joseon traditions/history, we can infer/assume that Sorang's mum/maternal ancestry is also of noble origin.
It is also worthy to note that Yangban/Noble men in the past can also take in a commoner/courtesan lady as their concubine/mistress. Being a second wife or a concubine of a nobleman was considered a rise on the social ladder for commoner or slave women, hence in the drama we can see that lady Seo 'married' sorang's father. And it is obvious enough that it is NOT out of love but rather for status. Also children from second wives/mistress of a nobleman were considered illegitimate and denied any yangban rights. Any children from Nobleman and second wives/concubines are technically considered Jungin (middle class). Hence Hyun Hee being a Jungin( middle class) would mean that she will be disqualified immediately from the queen's selection.

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Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation. It helped me understand the situation more

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Thanks for the recaps @unit! The show had its ups and downs but ultimately I think it was worth sticking with it. Shin-won and Hwa-yoon were very cute and well-matched so I won't quibble over the neatness of the ending. Glad everyone had their happy ending.

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I’d rather have a prolonged series of happy filler scenes than a too-abrupt ending. I appreciate that this show was a mostly fun watch that had more than its share of likable characters who were just good people — which can sometimes be hard to find in dramaland.

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Totally agree. If the original work is very light, make it into a web drama, and don't drag it on.

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I liked this drama a lot and I have no idea why LOL
its not good by any means, but it just caught me 100%. the main actors didn't have that much chemistry, but I like both actors a lot anyway. the story was all over the place and the acting was not good, especially from our king. I wouldn't recommend the drama, but I had a lovely time following it, for whatever reason.

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I don't mind the unnecessary fillers. It's just dozen shots of cupid for me and to the characters whom I care about in the Forbidden Marriage. Thankfully I have sweet tooth.

Even though I found Minister Jo cartoonishly annoying, I liked that he remained a bad guy to the end. I'd be pissed if he resigned to fate when all the cards were up.

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Minister Squinty (thanks, @nejsu!) grew on me after he went all-in on the narrowed eyes and murmuring between clenched teeth, like he could barely stand to interact with the lowly vermin around him. I wonder if the actor decided that since his character wasn't going to have any depth or much rationale behind his evil, he'd make him as much of a cartoon villain as a human actor can be. It provided a little comedy in a back half that otherwise fell short of the goofy, silly, ribald first part.

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I think the actors were miscasted. Park JooHyun and Kim Young-Dae did well in the comedy parts but everything that required some gravitas or fit a sageuk was lacking. This drama had a lot of romance but they didn't have the chemistry for it neither. They forgot to put make-up on PJH at the end too, they made her looking pretty plain.

For the story, they failed to show the FL's feelings for the King. She played him for so long, lied to him, finding him weak etc, it was weird she fell in love with him like this.

Kim Woo-Seok was a good surprise. His character was interesting too.

There were some really beautiful filmed scenes and the OST sounded very sageuk.

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SIGH, I finished it. The first half was really great. The last half regretful. It ended. Why did they take away the funny?

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We earned our bean, for sure. It was so fun at the start. Am agreeing that it should have been 8 eps, max.

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Woohoo I got another No Min-woo cameo!

Shin-won dressed as woman made me far more thirsty for him *fans self*. And when he fought in a woman’s nightgown as the BADASS warrior he is, he became that much more SEXY if you can believe it. Daaamn could Shin-won get any more attractive, my fragile heart can’t take it!

Omo I LOVED those Joseon proposal TikToks hahaha. I wished the show stayed that camp, quirky and uniquely creative in its humour throughout its run but alas expectations and reality rarely align.

Since it’s a comedy I doubt anyone’s gonna get mad at the historical inaccuracies but *sigh* they still went for the most boring ass Joseon villains. At least I only had to suffer 12 episodes with their presence unlike a certain other drama where I suffered 30 episodes of the most infuriatingly evil character of all time… (who had the perfect villain eyeliner I must say).

Gotta say Gwaeng-Yi getting his own meet cute and love at first sight with another handsome Ajusshi makes me all kinds of happy!

Anyway I’m here to talk about Shin-won, no I mean The Forbidden Marriage. Yes yes I’m here to share my thoughts about the show as whole not just fangirling over one character!

LOL NOPE! I am a Shin-won fangirl through and through. When he is sad I’m sad, when he is happy, I’m happy. When he is longingly looking at So-rang, I pretend he is longingly looking at me. Every time he is on screen I go crazy, my heart starts beating faster, for some reason my body temperature becomes warmer and I get the typical pervert nose bleed.

Am I in love with a fictional character? Yes it’s undeniable, and it wouldn’t be the first time. Do I have anything coherent to say? Not really, it’s best to ignore this whole comment for your sanity tbh

Thanks Forbidden Marriage for giving me such extreme SLS that I haven’t felt in a long time. While yes I have seen dramas where I rooted for the second lead it was never as intense as this. Kim Woo-seok you did a fantastic job and I’m excited to see what project you do next.

And Shin-won stay happy with Hwa-yoon l like her, and while I wished she was introduced sooner so we would’ve had more romantic scenes between you two, her presence was strong and she’s a badass in her own way. Stay happy you two 😉

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I was also on the Team Shin-won bandwagon.
Kim Woo-seok (our Shin-won) at times flashed a Kim Min-jae(esque) smile. Imo KMJ has a resemblance to Yeo Jin-goo so I think those three guys could pass as siblings. Those three in a sibling drama would be something else.

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I would definitely watch that drama!

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Thanks @Unit for the recap and for making it through the drama! I paused a few episodes back. I may just FF to the funny parts and to see Shin-won get his happy ending.

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My first bean of 2023! I may not have commented on the previous posts, but thank you for the recaps, @unit. Your recaps helped me trudge through the drama when I wanted to give up.

I understand some viewers’ misgiving with the silly fancam-like footage of all the Joseon lovers, but I vastly preferred it over the nonsensical politicking and scheming of the previous episodes. It’s anachronistic and fluffy beyond words, but that’s what I wanted more from the show to begin with! I’m just happy that Shin-won and Hwa-yoon ended up together and that we got one last No Min-woo cameo.

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Small correction: I just realized that Alchemy of Souls: Light and Shadow also counts as a 2023 show so this was actually my second bean of the year. Not an important detail to anyone, but I felt like correcting myself lol.

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Thanks for the weecap @unit. I dropped this drama at episode 9 and was just following the weecaps. After reading this, I did watch eps 11 and 12 for the scenes highlighted here, like Shin-won's kidnapping, and fast forwarded most scenes. I share the opinion of some beanies that if this show's strengths were the parts when it did not take itself seriously. But the romance was not convincing, both story-wise and acting-wise. Anyway, at least I discovered a new actor to watch out for - Kim Woo Seok hopefully gets more meaty roles in the near future. I did not realize it first but when I saw the comments about the FL make-up, I realized that I was not alome in thinking that she looked too pale in some scenes (even when she was supposedly healthy and happy), or in some scenes her face was too shiny, and then in the latter parts, her blush on did not seem complete, it looked like she had a permanent rash on her left cheek. I am not a fan of too much make up and filtering too, but since this show is not going for realism in the first place, she should at least look prettier than the other ladies in the show. She should fire her make up artist.

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Thanks @Unit! I actually didn't mind the filler at the end, I generally like all ends neatly tied off, so this was fine with me. Not a classic drama by any means, but I enjoyed the fun.

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As far as sageuk evil ministers go I don’t think Minister Jo was top tier however, worthy or not, the writer gave him a memorable death scene. It was rather operatic. I loved it when the royal bowmen cut him down from above. That’s how you handle guys like him. No fooling around.

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Thanks for the recap @unit. There are always a few details that I miss when watching but the recap allow me to get everything.

It was a fun drama, at his best when silly and fun.
The best outcome is Shin Won / Kim Woo Seok, a new oppa in my aquarium.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the TV series. I agree that there were some parts that felt unnecessary, but the benefit of having a remote control is that I could skip forward without missing the main plot.

However, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed the show's dry wit and campy humour. It added a fun and entertaining element to the overall experience. Overall, I appreciate your review and thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts on the series.

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I actually clenched my teeth through the first "funny half" of this rom-com fusion saguek, until our FL toned down the swindle and began to fall for the king. Her character at the start was over-the-top agressively shallow and she was definitely not pretending to be a shaman so she could help lift the ban on marriage...nope...she was there to help herself make money as a matchmaker once the ban was lifted. I know it's a comedic farce, and according to drama rules, her character, just like a Tsundre hero, would slowly change too, but I needed at least a slight bit of nuance from her character in the beginning to make me care about her & her goals even a little. Especially since some of her lies to the king were so cold-heartedly bent on her making him forget his wife, that it hurt him very deeply...which blunted much of the humour for me. Especially telling him that his wife never loved him. Even in comedy, the character hurting someone so deliberately should have a deeper purpose for it other than making a lot of money. The drama felt more like a comic book at the beginning for me, which is fine, but I didn't think I could stomach sixteen episodes worth of cringy sketches, but I stuck it out because I've seen Kim Young-Dae in Sh*tting Stars & 'Moon in the Day' and read he won acting awards for 'Sh*tting Stars' as well as 'Penthouse 2:War in Life', 'Cheat on me if you can' and 'Forbidden Marriage" too. He impressed me in this one. I thought his physical and facial humour as well as his comedic timing was great. The writer wrote us an emotionally wounded king who 'simps' when he's in love, but swooshes in 'like the wind' when he's after his butterfly... and can wield his power & a deft sword to protect her. Kim Young Dae managed to make me believe all parts of him, even the dorky cheesie moments. And yet all his parts made a cohesive whole that drew you in and made you believe in his sincerity. Sadly, uur heroine didn't do that for me. I didn't feel their chemistry either, but KYD was 'giving it'...even while So-rang wasn't. I LOVED our hunky Eunuch and Court Lady Won to bits. Happy that our writer gave them a nice long arc. I also liked Shin-won a lot too, a stellar second lead who is yet another guy who 'simps' when he falls in love. Hwa-yoon (loved the 'crash landing' reference #Unit--hilarious!) was a much better match for him because with So-rang he had no 'edges' or boundaries...he just 'wanted' to 'be' with her. The King's relationship with So-rang was more three-dimensional as they grew through distaste at first, then admiration, respect and into love. Si-Won as her 'fiancé' eight years ago never got that chance. His love for her was a freeze-frame moment from the time he saw her silouette in the window. Not the same for her. But I was so very happy with Hwa-Yoon who was as smart, capable and charming as So-rang as his match. She belonged by his side.

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