63

The Glory: Episodes 1-8 (Drama Hangout)

Behold, your Drama Hangout for Netflix’s much-anticipated The Glory. This is your place to binge and chat about the drama — but stay tuned! We’ll have a review coming soon. Read our Episode 1-2 review here.

Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
RELATED POSTS

Tags: , , , , , , ,

63

Required fields are marked *

Excellent!

4
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

After that crestfallen ending to Reborn Rich The Glory Part 1 is already the best revenge kdrama to premiere in 2022.

Solid (though not exemplary) acting by Song Hye-Kyo, thank goodness. Her range was more than 2 facial expressions and she definitely embodies the image of a strong-hearted agent of vengeance; Lim Ji-Yeon however is easily the show stealer. Both her teen actor and herself deliver stand out performances as the utterly repulsive, incontrovertibly psychopathic main tormentor of our protagonist.

The plot feels earned from the get-go - this isn't a story necessarily about the brutality of school bullying, but just the consequences of brutality, period - the actual events that unfold to set the story in motion go well beyond the implication of the b word. Straight up assault and sexual assault occur within the opening moments but what was most exigently felt to me was an overwhelming and unrooted sense of injustice, as neither the bought off authorities nor apathetic adult onlookers promise any intervention to the horrors unleashed in the first episode. This isn't a tale about redemption nor a Nietzschean cautionary tale about the dangers of succumbing to vengeful desires - this is a revenge plot through and through, for every character on every side of the fence.

The most technically marvelous aspect of the whole brouhaha, however, is less to do with the colorful cast and their acting chops, but rather, the absolutely stellar cinematography. I would contend that this show features the highest quality and most artistic framework of any series format Korean drama. Certainly movie-like would be the most apt description. It is rendered with shades of noir flicks and thrillers like Blade Runner and Oldboy. It's so grim yet so beautifully and expressively shot. Solemnity cloaks and seeks to underscore the protagonist's response to her past of violence - rather than canonise her as someone pitiful and prey on her emotionality, she is empowered as a cold, avenging angel.

At times the dialogue, surprisingly, feels like the most janky element of the entire production. At times it severs the overall believability of what is already a highly elaborate and far flung plotline - though, considering the unconventionality of literally every last member of the main cast, the often overtly literary quality of the writing can be as magnetic as it intends to be.

Overall I really liked this work - there is no redemption to be found for the antagonists of the series but certainly it serves to redeem Song Hye Kyo's previous project by stepping into what has been an arguably overdone genre this year and leaned into, rather than taper back on what defines the revenge genre and its tropes. It doesn't shy away from the morality of the situation, but it doesn't moralise nor does it ever sit on its laurels squandering the momentum by meditating on the potential didacticisms of the story beats.

8/10 from me. One of the strongest offerings of...

14
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

Saw the first four episode. OveralI it's a decent drama. I was downvoted in other forum by her fans when I said she doesn't have range to pull off this kind of dark character. I was right so far she is doing decent job but there is hardly any expression in her face when is supposed to show strong expression. Overall it's a decent drama. Execution need to be tight and fast face some scenes are long and boring. It doesn't have that factor to hook you.

11
3
reply

Required fields are marked *

My best hope was that the drama would be good in spite of the casting of Song Hye-Kyo. She’s a beautiful woman and people have assumed that translates into her being a good actress. I agree her expressions do not change. She’s stiff and unyielding in every scene but at least it sort of works within the context of this particular storyline. I binged the show and while I think her skills are the weakest among her co-stars, (I agree that Lim Ji-Yeon steals the show in her superb manifestation of pure evil), I was happy to see that Song Hye-Kyo doesn’t distract from the deeper messages inherent in this drama.

5
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks that. SHK can get away with it because her character doesn't need to show that much emotion. However, if given to a better actress, this character would have sooo much more depth.

The scene-stealer for me is definitely Lim Ji Yeon - I've only seen her in High Society as Park Hyung Sik's character's gf.

However, it's a fantastic drama and I'm looking forward to the next part. Cinematography and the plot are superb! I cried tears of happiness when Lee Do Hyun's character after several years on the train. You could see his world suddenly become much brighter 🥰

3
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

Now, it does make one wonder what it would have been if this was given to Seo Hyun Jin or Kim Go Eun.. Hmmm.. The what-would-have-beens, indeed.

2
reply

Required fields are marked *

I think overall its well written, strong cast, great cinematography.

7
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I think Kim Eun-sook casts Song Hye-gyo as a form of dry joke in this drama and I'm kind of digging it ha ha.
I want more suffering for all the bullies! I have not seen enough yet this far (ep 8). I want some bloody revenge! *evil laugh*

12
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Right, I actually thought that Song Hye-kyo’s detached acting style worked for such a damaged woman here lol.

15
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

Exactly my thoughts too! For once it’s working in her favor.

2
reply

Required fields are marked *

(Episodes 1-2) I was pleasantly surprised to see Jung Ji-so playing the teen version of Song Hye Kyo in the first episode. Jung is 18 years younger than SHK. She can give a wider emotive range of pain and despair as the victim than SHK can. The direction for SHK’s adult vengeance was to hide her facial expressions in darkness or shadows. Her delivery is still very wooden. I do not get the crazy, in-depth characterization of determined sociopath in SHK as I have seen in other Korean actresses such as Jo Yeo Jeong in Ms. Perfect. Here, Lim Ji-Yeon is more menacing as an adult who has honed her evil people skills. So it will be a difficult road for SHK to try to attain that level of performance.

It is a disturbing story about institutionalized bullying and wealth privilege, but the victim’s solution to terrorize a small child is just sick. The voice over narration is diliberate in the place of direct acting. As Dong-eun begins to build her associates in her revenge plot, she is at a crossroad of taking on the burden of another’s revenge/murder.

We know why she wants revenge, and we are beginning to see how she wants to accomplish her goal. It sets up that several people will get in her way or use her negatively since she still believes she is a "broken person."

5
3
reply

Required fields are marked *

but the victim’s solution to terrorize a small child is just sick.

But the victim never harmed the kid. She never did anything to actively harm her. The kid is in fact blissfully unaware of everything in the adult's world.

20
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

The character's intent was based upon the evidence shown in the first two episodes: Dong-eun's revenge plan was to destroy Yeon-jin's dream of marrying a rich man, have a couple of children and live a privileged life.

She knows that wealth is a barrier that can cover up any sort of crime or corruption. That leads only her child. To that end, Dong-eun became a teacher. She stalked Yeon-jin's child at the park. She moved into an apartment overlooking Yeon-jin's house.

Now, whether Dong-eun's intent to harm is put into action is another question.

3
reply

Required fields are marked *

I agree. At least so far, she is not terrorizing the child to get back at Ji Yeon. My understanding is that she will get everyone, including the child, to turn on or abandon Ji Yeon by exposing her for the evil person she is.

5
reply

Required fields are marked *

1st episode might be a hard watch due to certain scenes, but the rest of the story is pretty much "been there, done that" plot, but it doesn't put off the viewers because the execution of the story and cast is pretty neat. Cinematography is on the high end and characters have enough chemistry to back stab...err play off each other. I enjoyed Dong Eum's interaction with Hyeon Nam, the most.

To be honest, I was expecting a crescendo in action, but the plan stayed straight forward and still managed to make the drama engaging. I liked the bits of humour thrown hither and thither.

Shin Ye Eun's acting as the younger self of the antagonist was good, so I do not understand why she keeps picking mediocre projects. Lee Do Hyun was cute, but I guess S2 will show him a bit more on the darker side.

I am no Song Hye Kyo's fan and this would be my first full fledged viewing of her drama, but the woman can act which makes me wonder if a majority of her previous directors just wanted her to be a pretty object🙄🙄 Such a shame when actors, especially females aren't given a chance to emote and are just used as a tool for all the sponsor ads🙄

I hope S2 will at least be half as decent as S1.

14
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I will just copy/paste my review from the other forum.

The plot: Not really that deep or complex. It's pretty straightforward but because of that simplicity it was easy to watch. The only subplot I didn't like was the teacher's and his son's.

The villain: Yeon Jin was downright evil. We can go through mental gymnastics and say that....visits to shaman and evil mother made her this way, but yeah. Still a lacking character writing. The only complexity that you could see in her and Jae Jun's character was the love and care for Ye Sul. Lim Ji Yeon tried her best with the role so at least watching Yeon Jin wasn't boring.

The heroine: I liked Dong Eun. Well, not exactly liked but I think she was an appropriate hero to this story. She is someone who is an empty shell of a person, whose only goal and desire is to get revenge. She isn't supposed to be liked. I appreciated that she had lines she didn't cross and that she didn't intend to directly hurt the kid.

The hero: He was there. By the end, his presence even made sense. Moving on

The others: I liked the husband a lot. He was intelligent and decent. It felt like he married his wife because she fit the bill - semi nice, rich, gorgeous and has a career. He didn't strike me as particularly happy or unhappy, just resigned? The moment he finds out his wife is an evil reincarnated he doesn't seem particularly surprised but neither does he want to accept that.

Dong Eun's accomplice was also a nice addition to the show. I think if anyone can help Dong Eun to live a normal life it is her. She said that even though her husband hits her she is a happy person. Dong Eun needs that happiness in life.

Jae Jun seemed the most humane of the bunch. He still sexually harassed Dong Eun so he can go to hell. Watching Park Sung Hoon wear the most random suits was fun tho.

The cinematography/directing: top notch.

In conclusion, I liked the show. It wasn't King of Pigs level masterpiece, but it was still a good watch.

5
3
reply

Required fields are marked *

JaeJun the most humane?? No offence but that's crazy lol.
Jaejun might not have physically hurt her, but that doesn't mean it's because he was nice. To me it looked like it was more because he just didn't care... as if the bullying they were doing was just background noise to him.
His suits *were* amazing though. 😭😭😭

I'd say the most humane of the bunch was Hye-jeong. She sucked too, but she was kind of a victim as well. Definitely doesn't make her any less responsible for it though.

4
reply

Required fields are marked *

"The hero: He was there. By the end, his presence even made sense. Moving on" 😂😂😂 this is beyond accurate. His scenes were negligible to the plot, kind of like Hwang Inyeop in Why Him? (yes that is 100% the actual title of that drama)

9
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

‘ kind of like Hwang Inyeop in Why Him? (yes that is 100% the actual title of that drama)’ 👈🤣 love that new title.

6
reply

Required fields are marked *

I don't really see why there are comments just disregarding Song Hye-kyo's acting, allow me to add that I have voiced my opinion about her acting before and I'm not a fan, but still, I don't find her deserving of so much criticism for this particular performance. Wooden? Although I didn't find her performance wooden, but rather the character, but still, even so, I personally prefer this particular wooden performance to the exaggerated performance we quite come across in the K-drama world a lot. Thankfully, not this drama.
For now, given how the drama ended, for now, I can't say I'm happy, but I'm satisfied. The build-up was done well, they told us the back story, enough to feel the pain our main character has and is enduring, but then again they have given enough space to other characters to make us not too bored with a straightforward plot.
Talking about other characters, I was so worried about Lee Do-hyun's character, especially after watching Shin Hyun-bin completely go to waste. I'm so relieved that he is a character of his own, and I'm waiting for more to come from both him and his character. I really enjoyed watching him on screen.

8
4
reply

Required fields are marked *

Not a fan of SHK's acting either...
I wouldn't term her performance here as wooden though. It comes across more like a quiet and cool restraint, that the character has trained herself to cultivate over the decades while she's been plotting. There are flashes where she loses it completely... those are rare, but the actress delivers adequately. Like you said, her restrained style of acting actually comes to use this time... saves the more dramatic moments from feeling OTT and caricature-ish! ^^

4
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Yeah, exactly. I agree with you

2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Having watched a LOT of movie over 50 years, I find her acting in this spot on. Absolutely calculated when she finally starts to set things in motion after waiting and rebuilding herself for about 20 years. She also takes advantage of serendipity wrt her confederates, unwitting players, and the "bullies". But that's just me.

0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I think the director's use of dark lighting and narration best suits (or some would say cover up) SHK acting style which has been a fairly narrow range. I do not see her emotive expressions as being revengeful or full or hate like other actresses in other similar works but as more depressed and hollow that does not spark a reaction that she is a dangerous person. A broken person, yes, but not an evil lunatic.

3
reply

Required fields are marked *

I didn't mean to, but I binged it all in one day. Is it March yet?

13
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

Yes the bullying was horrific, but the fact that we have to wait till March for Part 2 is the real injustice. 😔

8
reply

Required fields are marked *

My main issue: its absolutely random of them to release Part 2 in March. Its not like the drama is not yet completed.

I really like the noir feel of this drama. The cinematography was top notch. The main actors really have solid acting skills -- main actors and their younger counterparts included of course. I like Song Hye Kyo and her acting in this drama. I like that she shows a mysterious aura with deep sadness and subdued anger. Jung Ji So had a tougher role since she had to convey a lot of emotions but she absolutely nailed it.

What I am most interested in is which side will Do Yeong choose in Part 2 since his role is critical in destroying Yeon Jin.

10
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I liiiiiiive because Park Sunghoon has a deathgrip on me like a squeaky chicken toy, but I will only start when the next part comes out in March

Kim Eunsook's ghostwriters really putting in some mad overtime with giving everyone whatever and then with 8 episodes of foreplay she's like "lmao yeah back into refinement see y'all in March" and as much as I hate most of her works...kinda queen shit, lmao

I still think giving Park Sunghoon, Yeom Hyeran and Park Sungil pseudo-bit parts is kinda illegal but I will eat Park Sunghoon villains up with a huge plate (y'all know me and my intense passion for Ryu Youngjae dramas) so here we go, Kim Eunsook wins yet again manifesting snakes in my house for many things I love

3
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

Comment was deleted

0
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

On the show's use of red-green colour blindness:

Firstly, I got a really good laugh out of Jaejoon saying Anne of Green Gables and Little Red Riding Hood are the women he hates the most 😂

Secondly, red-green colour blindness is an X-linked recessive disorder. Meaning that Yesul would need to have the gene for RG colour blindness on both X chromosomes i.e. both parents need to be affected for her to be colour blind.....so this plot point actually makes no sense and I had a hard time taking it seriously.

8
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Comment was deleted

0
reply

Required fields are marked *

It does make sense
It is x-linked disease, usually male displays colorblindness more because only 1 X affected chromosome (in XY) where as female usually is a carrier as she carries the gene - 1 X is affected and 1 X is not (Xx)

So in this drama the father (already colorblind) inherits the X to the daughter. And most likely yeonjin also carries the X recessive link and inherits it to her daughter.

Hence the daughter inherits both affected X chromosome from the parents - and has colorblind

4
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

You're right, I didn't think of Yeonjin being a carrier. I suppose I should say it's quite unlikely then, for Yesul as a female to inherit the condition, rather then it making no sense. It still comes across as farfetched in the drama though 😂

4
reply

Required fields are marked *

For those who have seen all 8 episodes in Part One ~

The one thing that completely threw me was the prison visit by the female doctor who runs the hospital (Lee Do-Hyun’s mom). She goes to visit the man who murdered her husband and who is sending unspeakably disgusting letters to her son. She receives one herself which prompts her visit to the prison.

First, where on earth do prison officials allow letters that are sent to or sent by prisoners to come into or leave the prison unread? Perhaps it’s the practice in SK, but I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe. Officials read ALL correspondence to prevent this type of behavior from happening.

Second, the killer, in my eyes, is a complete doppelgänger for another cast member and his last name is Kang. Kang is the surname of the housekeeper who assisted Dongeun in her quest for vengeance. Does anyone else see a tie-in there with the resemblance and surname that could be a plot point that’s revealed in Part 2? Is my imagination working overtime?

4
4
reply

Required fields are marked *

Hold up, hold up. The last bit, about the doppelganger? You might be onto something there. I need season two to be out yesterday 😩

1
reply

Required fields are marked *

I struggled a lot with remembering who was who for a big part of the drama (especially matching younger version with adult version), I really have no idea why you're talking about, regarding the doppelganger! XD
You mean there is another character that looks like the killer? Who might be somehow related to the woman helping Dongeun (played by Yeom Yeran)? I'm so confused! Ahaha!

Maybe I should just wait for March and see how things unfold!

1
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Yes, to me the killer looks almost identical to another character in the drama, so much so I did a double take!

1
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

Ohh!! This makes me want to rewatch! I should have paid more attention!

2
reply

Required fields are marked *

The storyline is interesting but I found the level of bullying to be just over the top and completely unbelievable. Is this level of bullying common in SKorea? It seems pretty common, at least in kdramas (Boys over Flowers, Heirs etc), not just school bullying but workplace bullying as well. I can’t imagine this bullying behavior being tolerated at this day and age. And no one intervened, even after one student’s suicide and another student’s bruises and burn marks??? Incredulous to me. On another note, I am not seeing anything new with SKH’s acting in this drama. She has the same face and demeanor of all of her previous characters. I thought I would see greater depth and breadth of her acting but so far, I’m not seeing it. Her usual reserve and coldness fit her character here so I’m not seeing anything new. My opinion might change after Part 2.

3
6
reply

Required fields are marked *

in my country the bullying is also severe (1 cases that a student died because of iron steam has been us to bullied him).. we really has been lost humanity in our generation..

0
reply

Required fields are marked *

i guess you never see this kind of news on your place. but for us who used to follow netizenbuzz, there is a lot of bullying case as severe as this reported in SK and yes. adult like Dong Geun's teacher really do exist. they side with the bullies because their families is someone influential or donate a lot to school.

my country also has famous bullying case where naval cadet was hit multiple times, steamed with iron to his death just because his seniors suspected him for stealing one of their laptop. and that was one of few cases highlighted.

3
reply

Required fields are marked *

today, i brought you the real life cases from south korea which was dug out again after The Glory aired. if you think the glory "bullying to be just over the top", what would you think about this case?

http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2023/01/the-glory-brings-back-real-life-case-of.html

0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I completely relate to your perception of the storyline in The Glory. For years I’ve been horrified by not only the level of physical violence depicted in KDramas, but the attitude of perceived acceptance of it in every day life. It honestly feels like we’ll over half of SK shows feature some type of domestic abuse, school bullying and/or workplace violence.
When you see or read the news out of SK it’s evident that there’s an epidemic of bullying etc. within the nation.
Even though it’s an issue in almost every country, it seems to me that perhaps so many writers choose to include the rampant violence so prevalent in SK society to perhaps hold a mirror up to it. The incidences of violence against woman in SK is outrageous, yet the government only puts bandaids on cases v implementing severe and consistently applied laws that punish the perpetrators.
In a country so advanced and rising so quickly in global economic impact and technology, how the people of SK can see the powers that be turn such a blind eye to this issue, is heartbreaking to me.

1
reply

Required fields are marked *

well the bullying took place in 2005-ish ( i forgot ) and ive read so many horrible school bullying true stories from sk and japan that somehow i find that it makes sense why theyre calling it 'school violence'. its that bad and still is.

0
reply

Required fields are marked *

In an interview, the writer indicated that she did a lot of research and directly talked to victims about their abuse. About the unbelievability of such acts, there are many real life cases in SK: one was a young man who was dragged into a parking garage, tied up, poured with gasoline and had fireworks lit in his lap. It caused severe burns. The bullies only received probation and did not have to pay any medical bills, which angered the man's parents. So yes, there have been real heinous cases in SK.

3
reply

Required fields are marked *

its like watching korean movie instead of drama. the gore of the abuses, the non-stop smoking scenes, to naked scenes ( i see butt in one of the ep 👀).

both leads has their own brand of trauma. the bullying is so severe. Dong Geun scars is everywhere and i hope she deliver pains to each and one of them. in her twist of vengeance, to he** with "you are better person that that". they deserve to tumble down from that high and mighty place.

Ju Yeo Jeong tho. haunted by his father cruel death. it scares me when he took out bunch of knives and imagine killing his father's killer. the killer also kept sending letters to the son? uhh, why??

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

episode 1-2 really made me boiled coz of the preparators and also the adult (mother and teacher) really make me want to smack them hard..this drama keep me want to know what happen on next episode and end up make me sleep at 4 am just to finish the whole 8 episode..too much unfinish story like about the ML and how come his has little appearance on screennnnn and to wait till march for part 2 is too longggg..erghhh

1
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

There is no good reason for this to have 2 seasons. The first wasn't even that good, it is kind of bland and most of it will have been forgotten by March. After that horror fest in ep 1 it follows a straight path always hinting at some big plan that seems to be much more improvised than it should be and depend on a lot of silly coincidences.

The main actress is still limited but at least the character didn't have a lot of emotional moments so she isn't annoying. The bullies are mostly superficial psychos so nothing is discussed and a few actors get to have fun with this, no harm there. LDH is miscast, has no chemistry with FL and looks too young for the role, which has a stupid plot twist that was a bit ridiculous.

Some of the plot doesn't even bother to be reasonable. A friend from college finds out his father assaulted the victim and she will make a public complaint, with no evidence, which will cause a scandal, so he decides to kill his father. Sure. Moving on!

The best scenes were those of the Ahjumma Spy and Sexy Husband. Whenever they are there it becomes almost interesting.

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

Reborn rich always showed how the revenge plot took place after the fact. I feel like currently they don't really establish why we should be afraid of SHK wrath other than sitting creepily in an empty room with lots of photos. We don't have any insights into her plotting and when we do like the teacher plot, it's a big question mark of the son's motives and how she would push it.

So far the villains + side characters are carrying the show in terms of acting, they do such a good job of being evil and comical. I do like how they leverage her dry acting style to contrast. Those scenes with her just eating kimbap while plotting with a completely straight face is gold.

On a meta note, there's this interview with Jolie talking about how she chooses projects like Salt when she's feeling weak so she plays badass characters. Interesting, both SHK and SJK chose revenge dramas. Glad she's in a better looking drama though, her last one was so drab.

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I did like it. It is hard to find a drama you want to binge watch recently. I did trough night to early morning . Finally SHK found something she is good at :) I was so disappointed her previous project that I was sceptical until episode 4 .I am the only one who was very disappointed with Lim Ji Yeon ! Her younger years actor was spot on. Sweet but cruel . I found the grown up version boring . She is supposed to be the most ' psychotic' between them but i did not get it. I also did not exactly understand 'hints' for her husbands character . He liked his wife because she was wearing Gucci at the blind date . He recognized Lee Do Hyun's watch and expensive shirt when they first met! So what does it mean! I also thought Lee Do Hyun as a candy at first half :) But he did managed to get into the story !

1
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

The husband is materialistic but he also notices everything so I'm thinking his noticing Lee Do Hyun's watch and expensive shirt showed him that LDO was a man with means.

1
reply

Required fields are marked *

I binged the first 8 episodes in a day. I was doing other things too, but there were long stretches of the drama that held my attention. The high school villains as adults were far too villainous. There was a lot overacting, what I heard called "scenery chewing"--a lot of eye rolling, shrieking and menacing, bickering and swearing. By comparison, Song Hey-gyo and Lee Do-hyun seemed so reserved, like they were totally underplaying their parts. Yeom Hye-ran as "imo-nim" is so adorable that I am nervous she's going to be revealed as a terrible person in the second half of the story. I think one draw of the retaliation-against-bullying stories I've seen lately is that they all involve some kind of mystery. It's the unfolding of the mystery that makes a story compelling. It also seems, from the outside, like South Korea is going through a real reckoning about bullying and the demand for social conformity. Anyway I'm in for the second half--I really want to know what happens.

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

the ending prompted my thoughts to go in the direction that Dong Eun will let them do her work for her... they are all looking at one another's throats now.

2
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

YES. Her revenge plan does not involve her having to do anything violent to them. She's counting on them to do all the violence to one another. The only person she's committed to kill is the housekeeper's husband, which I think she's going to try to get out of doing. (Where we left it, she was confronting Imonim with how damaging it would be to her daughter if she kills her father.)

3
reply

Required fields are marked *

I loved the first 8 episodes. The story is so well written, slowly building a narrative that keeps constantly the tension. Loved the acting of the characters, all of them were dragging me powerfully into the story. I can't wait until March.
On the other side, I'm not a fan of any actor or writer, but thankfully I'm objective and without prejudices. I find disturbing that people are criticizing the work of the main actress and writer because of previous works. Song Hye Kyo is here very solid and totally embodies the character . Obviously, the people who don't like her in this role are not being objective.
Oh, and you don't need either to start a praise saying I'm not a fan, but... I hated her, but ... Just acknowledge their work and that's it. Is that not close to psychological bullying, remembering always to someone their previous faults?

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

Let me tell you when that teacher's own son took him out I clapped. Like father like son.

As for the rest they all deserve to die.

1
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

Ok i came to ask about that actually. So the son really killed his own father? So weird and a bit far fetched that DE expected the son will do something that equates to revenge for her. And did i miss something when she said she posted stuff on the Education board?

0
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

She said she was going to post on the board what his father did to cover up what the bullies were doing to her. His son would be guilty by association and would lose the job he so desperately wanted. So I'm thinking to save himself he decided to get rid of his dad. He even said I have a family now and any hint of scandal would ruin his chances.

2
reply

Required fields are marked *

I have finally caught up. Dong-eun states that her revenge will all be legal, but some of her means are borderline. The first four episodes had a Parasite quality to them; thematically, the Go game victory is to bring Yeon-jin’s house down by strategic moves. Her first victim died not by her hand, but by her suggestion to the son. If that is the blueprint, then she will not have blood per se on her hands. She is trying to align the bully group against each other. She is already in Yeon-jin’s head; the birth secret card is what will bring down the house.

Dong-eun’s lifetime of anger has given her good manipulation skills as she cleverly gets her Go puppy to become her executioner, a housekeeper into a spy, and scum lackey into her attack dog.

She is juggling many pieces at the same time, but her main plan seems to be:

Yeon-Jin to kill Myeong-O to stop his murder blackmail.
Sa-Ra to die from withdrawal or a fatal OD since Myeong-O no longer gets her good drugs.
Yeo-Jeong to kill Hyeon-Nam’s husband and maybe someone else then he is imprisoned for life where he will kill his dad's killer.
Do-Yeong to eliminate Jae-Jun to protect Ye-Sol.
Yeon-jin to go insane if her marriage, husband, child and career taken away from her.
Hye-Yeong to have marriage canceled resulting in a life in poverty; or take Yeon-jin’s wrath for being a betrayer.

I was also thinking that Dong-eun's goal is not only destroying Yeon-jin's life, but to actually taking it over. But would Do-Yeong marry Dong-eun, a second monster, to replace his current superficial yet sociopathic wife?

4
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I liked it (I binged watch it for 2 days). I skipped most of the 1st episode, I don't like to see such violence because I know there's kids who unfortunately go through this or worse. I was afraid that she would use the little girl to get revenge, but so far she seems to be using her for psychological warfare against her mother. I hope it stays like that.

I'm curious of the doctor's involvment though. So far I don't really see what he brings to the table aside from giving serial killer vibes. Like is he going to off all the bullies one by one? Also who the f**** moves to a whole new city for a woman who at that point had been steadily rejecting him?

I also feel like there's more chemistry between the main bully's husband and SHK's character than with the doctor so I'm curious to see what he's going to do now that he knows everything.

2
0
reply

Required fields are marked *

I agree with all the comments on the bullying episodes which I could neither watch except in small sections nor believe, particularly the episode with the Teacher beating the girl in front of other teachers. There are international courts for human rights which would take a very dim view of such behaviour, and it must be very common in SK as it appears so often in films and dramas. But the saddest thing for me is the casting of the female lead. There are at least half a dozen stars who could have done a much better job; a good actress can convey a wealth of emotions whilst remaining as still as SHK, but I do find her sadly very wooden and she doesn't convey much in the way she speaks, either. She isn't spoiling it, but she was SO dreary in Now We Are Breaking Up I had to abandon it half way through, so I was hoping for a return to form for this lovely actress in this one. Very disappointing, but otherwise a fascinating drama if you cut out the gratuitous violence. Again, all of this horror could be conveyed without having to make it so horrendously explicit.

1
2
reply

Required fields are marked *

ufff .. thank you for this post!!

I was looking for a "relatively" safe entry point into a Glory thread after

- hearing SO MUCH chatter as it was airing and when the 2nd season was released.
- after taking a taste of Ep 1

I am still sceptical about the stated intentions (highlighting bullying??) with with which this Drama was written and produced.

Or was it actually just for a good ol' Melo Revenge Kdrama (bordering on makjang) that provides viewers a sort of WWE wrestling equivalent .. or the ancient gladiatorial event that played heart thumping edge of seat cheers ..

OK disclosure, I have-not watched the full SHOW YET.
Except for a wee bit (Ep 1).
It left me disinterested, disturbed (that this was drawing volume of eyeballs) and disappointed, because Kin Eun Sook the screenplay writer (.. and team?) seemed to have reached for the lowest hanging fruit to depict a complex phenomenon - gratuitous violence and focus on 'revenge'.

What was the takeaway at the end?

Satisfaction that the perpetrators got their just desserts. You know, how in Revenge Melos the audience is gritting their teeth and stomping along with the "hero" as they squash and kill ignominiously their tormentors (any show of villain character in 3D makes the ratings hit the floor like a hot potato or letting the villain get off with just a prison sentence make fans boo).

Maybe I picked up the wrong context, wrongly read the room while surfing reactions and reviews and comment threads ..

That the intricate 20 year plotting of cold revenge isn't the main story but a look at bullying as a social illness that may leave both perp and victim in the garbage bin.

Anyone remember a show called 13 Reasons Why?
The way that story was told - onion layers - and dissected.

Not that we are expecting a Kdrama on the lines of 13RW, but even Who Are You has pretty strong bullying Angle as does School 13

Vigilante action as just retribution?
All severely bullied victims can and should exact their own revenge?

Does it explore : maybe Bullying Villain characters can turn the Bullied into criminal minded evil doers .. and the line is blurred when the audience is manipulated into cheering on (of course that works so well in dramas that aren't masquerading as social commentary).

I so want to be proved wrong that the writer-Producers of this show weren't just waddling in a shallows disco lit pool with dramatic showmanship to give the viewers a "good time" rather than the "thinking hats" they seem to be professing.

SORRY if I got it all wrong.

But I wanted to get this off my chest :-O

1
1
reply

Required fields are marked *

With you all the way. A much more profound analysis than mine. I am always conscious of being born in the West and therefore "on the outside looking in" when it comes to the culture in Korea. But as I said, the theme of men slapping women, women slapping men, teachers slapping students and bullying to a horrifying level is extremely uncomfortable. The theme of planning revenge for 20 years, bearing grudges, etc. goes back as far as Great Expectations isn't new. And I agree that we are all "stomping along with the hero/ine" as they crush their various Nemeses. It is an excellent point that revenge degrades both the revengees and the revengers (if there is such a word). I don't mind a little retaliation either promptly or within a reasonable period of time, but........planning for 20 years???.....come on!

Having said that, I thoroughly enjoyed the show and was happy able to binge both seasons. What does that make me.........? Bosuji - watch it! It isn't balanced, and it stretches credulity to breaking point, but there is some fantastic acting and it really hurries you along. I still haven't watched the scene where our Revenger acquires her most spectacular scars (and her most unbelievable scars - any fool can see what caused the burns and even those vicious and idiotic teachers would have had trouble closing their eyes). The female lead as definitely better cast than she has been for a while and she is the most gloriously beautiful woman and a delight to watch, even if her acting is a little wooden!

1
reply

Required fields are marked *