Reborn Rich: Episodes 9-11
by mistyisles
Our hero’s enemies strike back, putting him on the defensive and throwing every possible wrench into his plans. Fortunately, however, he’s gained a few allies in this timeline as well — and some in surprising places.
EPISODES 9-11 WEECAP
This week Do-joon’s new timeline crosses over into the 21st century, which of course means facing down Y2K concerns. Unsurprisingly, Do-joon is prepared to use this to his advantage, too: at his recommendation, Chairman Jin promises to compensate Soonyang employees should the feared catastrophe occur. Since the new millennium arrives safely and the compensation goes unneeded, Chairman Jin gets to look generous without having to pay up.
By now, Do-joon and Chairman Jin have settled into an interesting, if unstable, relationship. Rather than outright enemies, they still interact as grandfather and grandson, and Chairman Jin still listens to Do-joon’s advice (as in the case of preparing for Y2K). And as this week’s episodes progress, Chairman Jin seems to develop a deeper respect — and maybe even fondness — for Do-joon, despite their lingering mutual distrust.
Meanwhile, the stocks Hwa-young invested all her money in run their course. As her debts pile up, the value of her shares in Soonyang plummet and are automatically forfeited to Miracle as per the contract she signed with Se-hyun. Hwa-young begs everyone she can think of to bail her out — her brothers, her husband, Se-hyun, Do-joon, even Chairman Jin — but they all say much the same: her only hope is to sell the rest of her shares to pay back the money she borrowed and lost. Which is exactly what she doesn’t want to hear.
Do-joon, in the meantime, reaches out to Min-young, effectively (and finally!) pulling her into the main story. She’s now officially a prosecutor, but is stuck doing photoshoots and interviews so her superior can brag about championing gender equality without actually putting her on any cases. Min-young is pleased to have Do-joon reappear in her life, and though she knows he must have an ulterior motive for coming to her, she’s even more happy to have something to do. So she jumps straight in to investigate Hwa-young.
But Hwa-young isn’t going down without a fight. When Min-young summons her for questioning, she accuses Do-joon of using his personal connection with Min-young to give a false tip. That throws Min-young for a bit of a loop, but she presses forward determinedly.
While Min-young hunts for evidence either for or against Do-joon’s tip, Do-joon meets with the one person who knows the truth: Hwa-young’s finance manager, DIRECTOR IM (Oh Ji-hye). She’s tough to convince, even after being told to her face that Hwa-young will make her take the fall for everything. But Do-joon understands her loyalty on a very personal level. When he asks her to testify against Hwa-young, it’s like he’s talking to his former subservient self. Every day she chooses to stay loyal to Hwa-young, he says, she’s actively betraying herself.
Ultimately, Director Im agrees to help. She disappears the day the board is set to vote on dismissing Hwa-young, but not before she sends Min-young a recording of Hwa-young ordering her to invest company funds. That’s evidence enough to prove Do-joon’s tip was legitimate. With no other options left, Hwa-young signs the rest of her shares over to Do-joon so she can pay her debts and avoid jail time.
The case is taken from Min-young and wrapped up without further marks against the Soonyang name. Incensed — and disappointed in herself for secretly being relieved at how easy it is to just let it go — Min-young takes out her frustrations on Do-joon. She throws his unfulfilled predictions — Seo Taiji’s return and her becoming a great prosecutor — back in his face. But as luck (or fate?) would have it, that’s the very night Seo Taiji returns to Korea.
Do-joon runs after her and excitedly shows her the news. He expects her to be happy, but he’s not prepared for her to be so happy that she kisses him (though it only takes him a moment or two to process what just happened and go back in for more).
In light of their kindling romance, Do-joon promises she won’t have to investigate him for any crimes… so of course that happens immediately. Several Soonyang family members conspire together to accuse Do-joon and Miracle Investments of manipulating the stock market and turn public opinion against them. The result is devastating for Miracle, especially as Dong-ki convinces Chairman Jin to let him acquire Miracle to protect the family name. But only Do-joon knows that something even more devastating is coming: the 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York.
That knowledge enables Do-joon to shed investments that will become worthless overnight (dooming Dong-ki’s plans) and scrape together an investment campaign that not only saves Miracle from bankruptcy but causes their revenue to soar. Add to that the fact that the accusations against them are proven false, and Do-joon once again comes out on top by using his enemies’ own schemes against them.
Every time Do-joon outwits a family member, Chairman Jin takes notes. He’s preparing to launch a new finance subsidiary, and everyone knows that the person he chooses as its head will become the new owner of Soonyang itself. But as Chairman Jin watches Do-joon clear each and every economic hurdle — and watches his own children crash and burn time and time again — he can’t deny it any longer. He wants Do-joon, and no one else, to succeed him.
The rest of the family can see it, too. And someone is so enraged that they commission a Truck of Doom to take out the car that Chairman Jin and Do-joon are traveling in together. Only now, in the split second before the truck plows into them, does Do-joon remember why he didn’t know anything about Jin Do-joon when he was Hyun-woo: he never needed to, because Do-joon died before Hyun-woo started working for Soonyang.
For a while, we, along with the rest of the family, are led to believe that Chairman Jin ends up in a coma following the wreck, and Do-joon’s fate is left up in the air. But the truth is that both Chairman Jin and Do-joon emerge from the wreck with only minor injuries. That’s because Do-joon’s driver — the one Dong-ki placed to spy on Do-joon but who has come to respect and admire Do-joon instead — rammed his own car between theirs and the truck, taking the brunt of the impact.
Much as he doesn’t want to believe it, Chairman Jin knows one of his children was responsible. Only a select few people (none of them family except Do-joon and Do-joon’s parents) are let in on the secret that he’s awake and well. That way, the person who tried to kill them can continue preparing to take over Soonyang and Chairman Jin can catch them in the act.
Whether he’s the one behind the murder attempt or not, Young-ki is definitely preparing to take over Soonyang. While the others would prefer to hold off on launching the finance subsidiary, Young-ki argues that they must keep the company moving forward in the chairman’s absence. And as the eldest, he volunteers to fill in for Chairman Jin until he wakes up.
Meanwhile, Chairman Jin’s people and Min-young investigate the truck driver (who died in the wreck). The money trail leads to a valuable painting from Hyun-min’s gallery, which she claims was stolen. But “stolen” in this case means Sung-joon moved it out of the gallery without asking permission. Something he’s never done before.
Both Do-joon and Chairman Jin put up a strong front in each other’s presence as they try to piece together clues. But when Do-joon returns to his room to find Min-young waiting and worrying about him, he melts into her embrace and finally lets himself break down.
Likewise, Chairman Jin is not handling this as well as he appears to be. His distress gradually becomes more evident each day, as does his intention for Do-joon to take his place. With absolute sincerity, he warns Do-joon not to trust anyone and to take care of himself.
But a few days later, it gets even worse. In the mist of a strategy session, he suddenly turns on Do-joon with terror in his eyes. He doesn’t recognize Do-joon at all, and scrambles around the room trying to hide, convinced that Do-joon wants to kill him.
I have a feeling Chairman Jin isn’t going to be around long enough to catch the person responsible for the wreck, and it’s a testament to Lee Sung-min’s performance — and the rapport that was built between Chairman Jin and Do-joon this week — that I actually feel somewhat sad about that. He’s watching his hopes and dreams implode before his eyes and destroy his family, and losing his mental and physical health at the same time. That’s extremely tragic, though it doesn’t negate the suffering of people he’s taken advantage of or stepped on to make those dreams a reality in the first place.
One thing I wish we had a bit more clarity on, though, is how and when Chairman Jin died in the original timeline. I understand wanting to keep us in suspense of whether he and Do-joon would pull through this car wreck, but the tradeoff is that we’re left not knowing if Do-joon has managed to change anything.
If they were both supposed to die, but Do-joon earning that driver’s loyalty saved their lives and changed history, that’s potentially huge! But if they were always supposed to survive this particular incident and die later, then Do-joon is still stuck letting history run its course. Either way, it would help to know what is and isn’t still at stake.
But while this week had a lot of forward action — spanning a couple of years and touching on major world events alongside big happenings within Soonyang — my favorite scenes were the small, quieter conversation moments. For all the betrayals and plotting going on and family members angling to be as petty and awful to each other as possible, we also got a lot of sincerity, with the common factor in most of those interactions being Do-joon.
From his budding relationship with Min-young, built on mutual respect and admiration instead of power, to his guidance of Se-hyun’s decisions for Miracle Investments to his slowly but surely earning the trust of everyone else’s staff, he stands in direct contrast to everything that has made Soonyang what it is — and yet, at the same time, he’s still beating them all at their own game. But the question is: for how long?
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1 gadis
December 13, 2022 at 1:04 AM
Watching Do-jun’s progressive maneuvers against Jin family members was so exciting.
Of course he would start with Hwa-young, the easiest enemy to manipulate, with her separated subgroup basically a hanging fruit Do-jun effortlessly plucked from her hands. It was almost like a preliminary session for him, with his projected naive young image and smooth manipulation easily taking care of it. I suspected this round would end so much quicker if not for Hyun-min’s meddling (which was very welcome, because she always made things more interesting). As for Jin Hwa-young, she was just the worst: temperamental, generally incompetent, and infuriatingly entitled. The stupidest combination you can get for someone heading a huge business. It was extra satisfying to see her comeuppance came at the hands of people she has carelessly stomped over.
I honestly thought Dong-ki would hold on to his financial subgroup for a bit longer, but it was almost like Fate handed that fruit over to Do-jun for free with his foreknowledge of the 9-11 terrorist attack. Still, I have to admire Dong-ki’s excellent timing to attack using New Data Technology stock manipulation. If not for Do-jun’s fantastical circumstance, that would be a solid move.
It still amazed me how Jin family kept underestimating Do-jun despite him showing his business prowess and scary instinct over and over. It’s not just his future knowledge that made him invincible, but the fact that he has been repeatedly put under impossible situations in his previous life and managed to come through even with his very limited resources. The fact that he now has considerably more power and money to back him up would only guarantee him keeping his cool head even during crisis.
I also love the fact that despite all his similarities with Chairman Jin, Do-jun has never forgotten his root, the important lesson about the power of treating others as human beings. It’s poignant (and somehow felt like he was trying to prove a point to himself) that his ultimate moves against the family always involved a show of understanding and compassion towards people who were usually treated like servant. He knew perfectly well how demeaning that felt like, and so he also knew exactly what to say and do to show the opposite.
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gadis
December 13, 2022 at 1:05 AM
This drama is doing a good job giving us many fascinating grey characters.
I fell in love with Moo Hyun-min character this week. She was just perfect as Do-jun’s potential foe. She was good at playing nearly untraceable long-game: using subtle manipulation, working fast on her networking, and making sure that people underestimate her. She never let herself being dragged down to rough uncivilized playing, which put her firmly outside the usual catty and annoying female chaebol type. It made her scary, unpredictable, and interesting. She cast her own playing field, made her own rules outside what was expected of women in that era, threw her own unpredictable moves that nobody has seen coming because they saw her simply as another chaebol’s daughter-in-law. I love how every women in the Jin family, outside of scarily perceptive and deceptively quiet Grandma, could never even imagine that Hyun-min was so much more capable and resourceful than her demure appearance suggested.
Then there was Chairman Jin who showed more of his human side this week. It surprised me that I actually sympathized with his situation. He was still ruthless and immoral, but he also has self-awareness that I couldn’t help but respect. There was something both chilling and humanizing about the way he was so aware of his less savory qualities (greed, distrust, ability to betray anyone). He didn’t flaunt those part of him like most of his children and grandchildren did, instead he treated it as a logical, yet regrettable choice to achieve his ambition to be a pioneer businessman in South Korea.
I felt that Chairman Jin saw himself reflected in Do-jun not just because of his ability, scary insight, and bold ambition, but also in the way both of them never displayed any entitlement over the money and privileges they have. Maybe it’s because they were self-made men, instead of chabeols who got their power handed to them by the accident of their birth. Whatever it was, those similarities clearly made the Chairman more ready to let Do-jun saw glimpses of real feelings behind his usual heartless facade. The buried bitterness at knowing that his offspring could viciously planned his murder. Even his advice towards Do-jun to always be careful and not to trust anyone, for once, didn’t sound like a manifestation of greed that ruled his life for so long, but a genuine concern and almost a wish for Do-jun not to experience something as bitter. I guess the “hell on earth” he has talked about with Secretary Lee has came early for the Jin family, after all.
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melovestage
December 13, 2022 at 5:18 AM
Tbh, I always saw or felt that Do-Joon bear no hatred towards Chairman Jin. He hated the second and third generations of Soonyang as they were the cause of his death. For him, Chairman Jin is someone he looked up to and respected for building Soonyang and brought it to where it is “today”. Do-Joon being alike to Chairman Jin because of how he learnt from him via his book and his observations over the years during his second life.
Other than his historical knowledge, I think he’s putting the lessons he learnt before work (remember the classes he attended, the books he read and the notes he took?) to good use. Like how he’s working with Director Oh, which fully utilises his investment knowledge.
I usually don’t gel well with revenge dramas, but this drama is still keeping me on my toes even at ep 11. I can’t wait what else will drama put on the table
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Unaspirated
December 13, 2022 at 5:19 AM
I really think Hyeon-min is interesting too. Did you see that the book she was reading in bed in that scene with Seung-jun was The Prince? She always has something going on behind the scenes.
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Doppelganger
December 13, 2022 at 9:28 AM
Hyunmin is the most interesting character after the chairman. She can't be king because she's a female, so she's going to be eminence grise instead, like Machiavelli.
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2 Bunny Sonaki
December 13, 2022 at 1:40 AM
Thank you @mistyisles for the weecap. I thought Yang-cheol died in the first timeline during the plane crash in the second episode. So I don't know if him being still alive is a change Do-joon brought or not.
I am enjoying that battle over power so much as it isn't only Do-joon who is attacking but he also gets attacked as well and no single victory comes easily. That makes the drama more thrilling and the victor more meaningful. I also keep being on the edge of my seat, waiting for the next episode.
I also have a feeling that Yang-cheol will die before the battle ends and perhaps that will get the fight more intense. Just like you, I have that question going on in my head: Until when will Do-joon keep meaning, and will he really manage to take over Soonyang? It isn't like I don't that to happen but I am curious as to how he will do it.
Last but not least, the drama really excels in the closing scenes. Each cliffhanger is more thrilling than the one before.
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maria0215
December 13, 2022 at 8:03 AM
JYC didn't die in that plane crash during the first timeline. Do-jun knew about it because it was a big event, but he specifically said that the crash wasn't even mentioned in the biography (so no one knew Chairman Jin was ever on that plane) and he was worried that his presence has already somehow changed the future and made JYC board that plane. Plus, in the OG timeline, the biography came out when Do-jun was already working at the Soonyang factory and that couldn't happen if JYC died in 1987. I think he originally died in 2002–I remember someone saying that he has been dead for 20 years.
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3 Wise
December 13, 2022 at 2:56 AM
Plot twist : it’s grandpa who staged the accident. He wanted to kill Do Jun, even sacrificing himself just to make sure his firstborn will be the one who sit on the throne. #toomuchkdrama
I was misled, thought the grandpa would be straight villain, instead, he seems human. Not flawless, but not exactly evil. And actually it came as a pleasant surprise. This drama has all the ingredients of soap opera, but the writing I must say turn out to be classy and authentic one.
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4 Toodlepip
December 13, 2022 at 2:58 AM
I'm am enjoying the constant intensity of the drama. It never let's up and is keeping me engrossed throughout.
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Unaspirated
December 13, 2022 at 5:13 AM
I know! I was concerned I'd be bored with all the constant political maneuvering, but it's riveting!
Also, shout out to @mistyisles for a great weecap! I love it when I feel all the same things reading a weecap as I did watching the episodes, and this one delivered!
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mistyisles
December 13, 2022 at 12:02 PM
Thank you! That's one of my goals when weecapping, so I'm glad it's coming through.
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5 Guest
December 13, 2022 at 3:56 AM
It was mentioned in the first episode that the chairman died 20 years ago, that means he died in 2002. The year of the accident is 2001, so I believe only the original Do Joon died then.
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6 Kafiyah Bello
December 13, 2022 at 4:25 AM
What a ride. So we know that first Grandson is the would be murderer. The question is was he after haraboji or Do Jun or was Do Jun a bonus. 5 more episodes to go, what will happen next.
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kdramacurious
December 13, 2022 at 8:52 AM
There's still a small possibility that 1-0 is the would-be murderer. We saw 1-1 confront his father and renounce his inheritance in Episode 1. In that scene, he said: "The accident that day. Did you think I would never find out?"
One possible interpretation from that conversation is that 1-1 had the painting at one point but he later gave the painting to his father. And we all know that the painting had been used to pay for the assassination-by-accident.
Can't wait to find out what actually happened!
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PYC
December 14, 2022 at 4:29 AM
After Ep 11, I rewatched Ep 1 and noted what you said too when 1-1 pointed his finger to his father 1-0 about a certain accident. It does sound like the car crash but is it?
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candilane
December 13, 2022 at 9:26 AM
I still think its grandma.. 1st grandson is a chump.. evil but a chump.. and its too obvious if its him.. I think grandma did it and eldest son may know about it
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Kafiyah Bello
December 13, 2022 at 2:06 PM
That would actually be really great. So I like this theory.
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7 Unaspirated
December 13, 2022 at 5:01 AM
This show really knows how to leave you wanting more. What a scene to end on.
I really like the idea that events that Do-jun knows about from his previous life are bound to happen, and usually in the same way, but what he does seem to have some control over are the relationships he develops. His family can’t predict self-sacrifice because they can’t understand why anyone would ever do that. What an incredibly brave thing for In-seok to do. I loved the scene we got between him and Do-jun this week where he talked about being given choices, and that making all the difference.
I wasn’t sure who the person ultimately behind the accident was, but I strongly suspected Hyeon-min tbh. She always seems to have some scheme going on, she’s certainly intelligent enough to pull it off, and she’s sitting in bed reading Machiavelli’s The Prince for goodness sake. But I have to remember not to underestimate Seung-jun and his absolutely unhinged wedding/first episode scenes.
I liked the progression of this week’s episodes, where we got to spend a whole one bringing down Hwa-young (who I really wish was going to jail – I empathized so strongly with Min-young’s frustration when she wasn’t allowed to take it further) and then the next one bringing down Dong-ki. I was half hoping for Young-ki episode last, but I guess his situation is a little more complex with the addition of Seung-jun.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
December 13, 2022 at 6:14 AM
I think your point about relationships being the thing that Dojun can alter is an excellent one. He's certainly working hard to try and build up and encourage those who lost in the first round - the 4.0 family, his original family (although less successfully), Minyoung's self esteem, and even the Chairman's enjoyment of having a worthy opponent. He's also working hard to take down all those who made Hyunwoo's life a misery and doing it with that small smirk each time makes it highly satisfying.
But this is what I want to know: what about Hyunwoo? Does Dojun want to prevent Hyunwoo ever entering the company's service to protect him? Or does he just want to create a company that will treat Hyunwoo fairly? I'm making the assumption that Dojun's timeline will not overlap with Hyunwoo's (as Hyunwoo has almost 0 knowledge of 4.2), but not a single aunt/uncle/cousin would not recognise the fact that Hyunwoo is Dojun's doppelganger, so how are we getting round that? (Or are we supposed to assume that although we see SJK each time, the family are actually seeing a different person as 4.2???)
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Unaspirated
December 13, 2022 at 6:33 AM
It's still not clear to me what is going on with Hyun-woo either. My thought is that after the death of his mother, he sort of gave up trying to alter things with his former family, at least directly. I think you're right that Hyun-woo has almost no knowledge of Do-jun because he died before Hyun-woo assumed that role in the company, but I'm not sure what to do with the doppelganger issue. It would have made more sense to make Hyun-woo played by a different actor, but then we would have missed out on SJK in the first two episodes almost completely, so I can understand why they didn't do that. Still, they might have an explanation at some point. I don't think things are finished getting complicated!
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gadis
December 13, 2022 at 8:14 AM
I wonder about the similar appearance between Do-jun and Hyun-woo too. The Jin family should recognize Hyun-woo as the doppelganger of their dead family member. Or, given how petty that family could be, it's also possible that they did recognize that similarity, and that's exactly why they were being extra mean towards Hyun-woo.
As for Hyun-woo's story in this timeline, I wonder if Do-jun changing the work condition in Ahjin Motors is enough to change Hyun-woo's fate. After all, in the 2022 timeline, Hyun-woo only worked at Soonyang because his family didn't have money to send him to college. Now with his father comfortably employed, is it possible that Hyun-woo would go to college instead, which then end up nudging him towards other place of employment?
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ichietenshi
December 14, 2022 at 12:19 PM
"not a single aunt/uncle/cousin would not recognise the fact that Hyunwoo is Dojun's doppelganger, so how are we getting round that? (Or are we supposed to assume that although we see SJK each time, the family are actually seeing a different person as 4.2???)"
THIS! I am also wondering about this. Hyun-Woo and Do-Jun having the same face and yet even Do-Jun's mother just ignored Hyun-Woo in Episode 1.
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kdramapedia
December 15, 2022 at 6:24 PM
I don't think it's much of a stretch. The Jin family literally call their workers dogs who shouldn't bite their master, so I doubt that any one of them had given Hyun-Woo a second glance.
It's not uncommon for people to resemble others (a photographer did a viral shoot several years ago with doppelganger strangers), and no one is looking for a dead man in the living. We have the perspective of the all-seeing audience; the people in real time wouldn't think about it too much.
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8 Emyjolie
December 13, 2022 at 5:02 AM
I'm not buying the romance between Do Jun and the prosecutor, I FF all their "romantic" scenes, they didn't show us enough of them flirting in college, Do jun had more chemistry with the gallery lady.
I'm not sure I'm ready to see the chairman downfall health-wise, the previews looked awful and sad, I'm might just read about it on here rather than watch.
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Doppelganger
December 13, 2022 at 9:25 AM
Ditto. I'm all for a good romance, even if it's a side plot, but this romance is sooo irregular. I cringed at all of their romantic scenes. There is absolutely no buildup.
It also doesn't help that SHB's acting is as bland as unseasoned oatmeal. Even that kpop girl is more engaging onscreen.
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9 geminirat
December 13, 2022 at 5:06 AM
Thank you, @mistyisles, for the weecap! I'm not sure if I misread the subtitles but it seems like Hyun-woo (SJK's original character) was the one who orchestrated the truck of doom - because Jin Do-jun said something like "You will not succeed this time."
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10 Her
December 13, 2022 at 5:23 AM
Aside from the forced and cringe romance I like where this drama is going!
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11 Ak
December 13, 2022 at 7:10 AM
I believe Chairman Jin died in the plane crash in previous timeline. So Do joon has already changed history??
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maria0215
December 13, 2022 at 8:08 AM
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maria0215
December 13, 2022 at 8:36 AM
He didn't. Do-jun didn't even know that Chairman Jin's was ever on that plane. There's no chance JYC died in the crash in the OG timeline.
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12 bunnylita
December 13, 2022 at 8:27 AM
I have one question based on a conversation Dojoon had with his uncle Dongki in the 10th episode. This is after 9/11 when Dojoon prevented the stock crash with the Miracle Fund. Dongki's yelling about why is there peace when there's supposed to be war. Is he referring to what in real life is the war in Iraq? As in Dojoon prevented it? Am I just imagining things? Plese help.
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maria0215
December 13, 2022 at 8:42 AM
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ichietenshi
December 13, 2022 at 1:43 PM
Do-Jun prevented the market crash in South Korea (KOSPI, KOSDAQ). Dong-Ki was surprised that the Korean market was able to bounce back quickly in just a month after 9/11. The war he was referring to was a global conflict (WW 3) that didn't happen and he was expecting a global catastrophe. Although in reality, there was a war vs Taliban/Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (not Iraq-that was much later), the fact was it did not have a lasting impact on the stock market.
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13 kdramacurious
December 13, 2022 at 9:15 AM
What a fabulous trifecta this weekend's three episodes were!
I feel like we're much closer to seeing the backstory for several scenes in Episode 1:
a) Seong-Jun accused his father, Young-ki, of somehow being complicit in the "accident" — this suggests the possibility that 1-1 gave the painting to 1-0, and later learned that the painting had been used to pay for the assassination. For now, the viewers only know that the painting had last been with 1-1, but perhaps that's a bit of misdirection?
b) 3-0 and 3-@ were arguing in the elevator, and she at one point tells him: "You said Young-ki would be behind bars." This suggests she has also learned that 1-0 was the one behind the accident (or at the very least that he had committed some crime).
c) 4-0 and 4-@ were no longer together as a couple in Episode 1. In one of the scenes in Episode 11, we saw 4-@ being upset that 4-0 failed to protect Do-jun from his family and blaming 4-0 until Do-jun stepped in to say it was his idea to handle things the way they're handling them now. I wonder if this means that Do-jun had died in the accident in the original timeline and 4-@ never quite forgave 4-0 for that. This theory would explain why, in Episode 1, 4-@ was insistent on knowing the truth about the accident that involved her son.
d) the fact that Young-ki is the chairman in Episode 1 suggests that he became chairman after his father's death and that he held onto that position instead of giving way to his son, Seong-jun. This is different from what Young-ki was seemingly intending to do by the end of Episode 11, which is proceed with the formation of Soonyang Financial Group. Are we perhaps seeing the story diverge from the events of the original timeline?
It really feels like several different plot lines will be coming together soon. I'm excited to see how the show brings it all home now that we only have five episodes remaining
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14 candilane
December 13, 2022 at 9:24 AM
THEORY TIME....
I think the culprit is grandma.. I am like 97% sure.. Grandma has been quiet in the background the entire time but she is watchful.. Grandma's true colors were shown when her daughter was not saved by her husband after JDJ took her company.. So I know she doesnt approve of what is happening.. so lets breakdown why I think its grandma..
1. It was her money that started SoonYoung or at least grew it and do you really think she is okay with the entire company going to her husbands illegitimate son's child? She already said she only raised him equally because she didnt want others to talk badly about her husband.. she didnt do it because she cared for him. 2. Her eldest son and grandson is about to be passed over, all of her children and grandchildren are being passed over. 3. No one knew that Grandpa was going to make JDJ heir and only found out when he was on his way to do a press conference .. the only person who would have a head's up would have been grandma or the secretary because they both know his schedule.
I Honestly think grandma has hated JDJ from the beginning or at least when he started becoming a threat which was basically the very beginning of the series. honestly, I think it would be too oblivious if the culprit was one of the kids.. so that leaves Grandma and CEO Oh but my money is on grandma..
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15 Britney
December 13, 2022 at 1:05 PM
I wondered how 9/11 was going to play into the story.
I didn't really think Do Jun was going to die because there's still episodes left but I was still on the edge of my seat because I didn't know how he would survive. Way back in episode one, it was said that Soonyang folks just viewed Hyeon Woo as a disposable glove and I'm glad that he can use that experience as a way of reaching the other employees that Soonyang folks treat that way.
It's truly amazing how entitled rich people are; their entire world is able to run due to workers and yet they ALWAYS show such disdain and belittlement towards them. When Chairman Jin said something like Hwa Young was only in her situation because her dog bit its master or because she trusted someone, I was so disgusted (even though I know that's how rich/privileged people really think). As if it wasn't her own greed or ineptness. And the fact that the employees are just expected to take the fall for things otherwise, they're the problem. Ugh.
I'll end up ranting haha
The entitlement of the Soonyang folks irks me so much! I know it's realistic and this is the type of stuff that happens everyday but oh how they vex me which is why it's so satisfying when they lose by their own schemes backfiring.
I can't tell which was the most satisfying but their reactions as if they were the wronged party after they actively and maliciously tried to humilate and ruin Do Jun and his family is just so😒😮💨. When Hwa Young actually said something like "why are doing this to me? What did I do to make you treat me this way? We're family!", I was kinda blown away by the audacity (and yet again, not surprised that she's really that clueless & self centered and self involved to not even remember or think about how she's treated Do Jun or his mom or the folks whose lives she upended). When Dong Yi tried to take Miracle but then ended up losing his own investment company, that might've been one of the most karmic things to ever happen haha. Talk about someone who should've stayed in his lane. Maybe Do Jun would've always came after Dong Yi but maybe Dong Yi wouldn't have been so "ruined" if he didn't try going after Miracle or steal/buy information about them. The sad thing was seeing Chairman Jin see that he really couldn't rely on or respect any of the potential heirs. (I'm not sure why the eldest is looked down on so much but I guess he's up next for a takedown).
I'm a bit confused about Hyeon Min, Seong Jun, and Dong Yi & his wife. It seems like all of them might be involved in the hit on the chairman. But Hyeon Min in particular seems like she would be the mastermind of both this accident and Hyeon Woo's murder though I'm not 100% sure. It could also be Seong Jun but why would he kill Hyeon Woo when he was ridiculously loyal to him?
Sidenote: Was Hwa Young's financial director was killed? Given that she was abducted and no one hid their faces, doesn't look good for her in my...
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Britney
December 13, 2022 at 1:18 PM
...opinion which is why I'm glad she had the foresight to send in the recorder. It's tragic but at least she tried.
Do Jun's family still continues to be a breath of fresh air. I'd honestly forgotten just how scary Y2K was for people so it was fun to see both side of that again, the type that freaked out and the type who was like "it's just going to be like any other day and the world will keep spinning".
I felt for Min Young. A part of me wanted her to use one of those photoshoots and interviews to expose how she's just being paraded around as a poster for gender equality and progressiveness but that's not the reality at all. I know it's not practical and would probably be the wrong decision but it's just so frustrating watching her go through this. I liked that we saw her being vulnerable and venting about her struggles of being a prosecutor who wields little to no power or authority because of sexism or corruption or the freaking social hierarchy. I like that she really is a work in progress.
The relief she felt when she was able to prove Do Jun and his company did nothing wrong was palpable.
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16 Lonestar Girl
December 13, 2022 at 6:30 PM
I too have a feeling Chairman Jin won’t be around much longer. I hope I’m wrong because the drama won’t be the same without him. I will especially miss the scenes with the Chairman and Do-join. Their chemistry is amazing. Without the Chairman, it will feel someone let the air out of one of those blow up lawn Santas.
I know many of you like Hyun-min, but I can’t get behind her. It’s the actress. In every drama she plays the same type of character and always has that smug smirk on her face.
I think it’s possible Sung-joon was the one who put the hit on the Chairman and Do-joon, but I still believe, as I have from the beginning, that it’s Grandma who will get the job done.
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Lonestar Girl
December 13, 2022 at 6:32 PM
*Do-joon. Darn autocorrect.
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17 Mk55
December 14, 2022 at 10:15 AM
I am afraid to watch the next episodes! My heart squeezed during the last scene : the eyes of the chairman!! He was so terrified!!
The actor is woooow
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18 ichietenshi
December 14, 2022 at 12:05 PM
Thank you @mistyislesles for the weecap.
A previous commenter is right, this drama is a crack. Once you’re hooked there’s no getting out of it.
For this week's 9-11 episodes:
• The chemistry between Chairman Jin and Do-Jun is electrifying. It is fantastic to watch them on screen. Theirs is a weird relationship – grandfather and grandson with deep mistrust but with reluctant respect on each other. Chairman Jin is finally realising that Do-Jun is really his rightful heir. He can see himself in Do-Jun – the greed, intelligence and cunning.
• Acting is fantastic! Hats off to the actors playing Hwa-Young and Dong-Ki. I literally whooping in admiration for his performance when Dong-Ki was throwing his drunken tantrum on the stairs.
• I’m glad that Min-Young is now having more screentime. Unlike others who feel that the romance is unnecessary, I don’t see it that way, I am in a minority I know. I feel Do-Jun and Min-Young’s connection in the hospital scene when Do-Jun suddenly hug Min-Young. For that time, he was vulnerable and let his guards down.
• Do-Jun and his Hyung’s discussion about money. Hyung never fails to make me laugh.
• The OST – this drama has a great collection of soundtracks.
• The cliff-hanger episode endings – they really know how to make you want for more. Especially Episode 10 ending, I decided to re-watch Episode 1 to understand this drama better.
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ichietenshi
December 14, 2022 at 1:45 PM
Oops! Sorry for the typo of your name @mistyisles don't know what happened there
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kdramacurious
December 18, 2022 at 9:40 AM
Just chiming in to echo how much I enjoy the chemistry between Grandpa Jin and Do-jun — both young Do-jun and adult Do-jun. Lee Sung-Min is so good, I hope he wins an award for his performance here.
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19 loveblossom🌸
December 18, 2022 at 5:12 PM
I thought Chairman Jin could be faking the new worsening symptoms. Maybe he thought if he could catch Do Joon off guard. He's resigned to giving him the big job (then inheritance) so he's still wanting to look into him more.
Otherwise, it is sad to see his breakdown. The complex relationship between Chairman Jin and Do Joon has been so interesting.
I did not suspect Grandma and didn't know some people suspected her until the comments here. That is a cool theory. She looked mild in the background most of the time until she snapped at everyone at the hospital and aggressively brushed off anyone trying to comfort her.
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20 dramalover4ever
June 27, 2023 at 4:44 PM
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21 dramalover4ever
June 27, 2023 at 4:58 PM
I couldn't delete my previous post. Not sure why. I used to be able to. So ha ha, I'm reposting it without the typos. The editor in me cannot live with the cringe of all the typos.
Sorry, not sorry.
I don't feel compelled to comment much, but I just had to have my say on this:
I'm so glad I came back to Reborn Rich after a six-month break that had nothing to do with the drama. I found it engrossing to the extent that I binged the last 10 episodes in two days. In spite of many comments here, I found the return to the beginning (or at least, the rounding off) in the final episode satisfying. RR was for me one telling of the story of a Korea that has truly been reborn out of the ashes of the war as a first-world power, but with an ongoing problem at its centre. That problem is in the very thing that has enabled its prosperity- the chaebol. Even now, the process of restructuring these powerful companies, upon which the whole country relies for its lifeblood, continues, and at their heart is the issue of succession. For me, RR offered a fantasy resolution that happened from the outside. RR could not have offered a real resolution to that problem yet because it has not been accomplished in rl
No wonder Koreans made this such a much-watched, highly rated drama. There were so many ah ha moments of recognition. At the core of the drama was Lee Sung-min doing a perfectly recognisable on-point Lee Byung-chul. He deserves every accolade he got. I enjoyed that the worlds of Do-jun and Hyun-woo were only separated by the different sides of the street because they are in real life. Imo pure genius.
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