[Drama chat] It’s all in the details
by missvictrix
One of the things I love about dramas is their richness of detail — there’s always some small moment or expression or even prop to enjoy. They don’t often draw your attention to these details, either — they’re just there for you to catch and enjoy.
One of my favorite examples of this is in Start-Up (Episode 5, about 50 minutes in FYI), when Dal-mi is preparing for her big CEO speech. She’s nervously pacing the halls with her script, and holding a bottle of water she can’t seem to open. Ji-pyeong comes over and looks at her speech and makes some changes‚ but the detail I adore is that he also takes the bottle of water from her, opens it, and hands it back to her — all with such a matter-of-factness that makes it positively delightful. That level of detail and specificity, I think, is part of what can make dramas such a rich watch.
What are some of your favorite little blink-and-you-miss-it moments from dramas?
Let the chatting begin!
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1 miso
October 30, 2022 at 5:22 AM
I Can Hear Your Voice had something similar (not surprising perhaps considering it was also written by Park Hye-ryun!) - Soo-ha would always casually open water bottles for Hye-sung and then when he got injured, she did the same for him. It was a very good way of quickly showing the casual comfort and dependence between the two.
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gadis
October 30, 2022 at 5:34 AM
Speaking of this drama, my favorite little moment is when Hye-sung came home with sore throat after handling a very annoying case. She wanted to rant, but her sore throat prevented exactly that, until Soo-ha reminded her that he could simply read her mind instead. She then started ranting happily inside her mind, with such expressive gesture, while Soo-ha just chuckled indulgently at her.
So lovely in its familiarity and everydayness, yet also a clever use of the drama's fantasy subplot.
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dramadillo
October 30, 2022 at 7:41 AM
I loved this scene!🥹
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miso
October 30, 2022 at 4:45 PM
Love that scene! The childlike joy on her face when she realises she can think-rant instead 😂.
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2 mmmmm
October 30, 2022 at 6:03 AM
I KNOW RIGHT?
And how can you prevent me from falling and rooting for HJP! There is another scene which is so good it hurt me and probably JP-Dalmi shippers real hard is when he places eating utensils in front of DM, mixes the noodles and hands it back to her before putting down his chopsticks before telling her he has feelings for her. These small details make a big difference and makes me think the character is considerate and worth rooting for.
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Kurama
October 30, 2022 at 6:49 AM
There were a lot of nice details in Start-Up.
When they signed their contract, the buyer gave the cheap pen to Dal-mi and the expensive one to Do-San.
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mmmmm
October 30, 2022 at 7:08 AM
Really? Whoa.. how could you notice such a small detail like that? I'm impressed.
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Kurama
October 31, 2022 at 9:19 AM
It really showed that his interest always was Do-San and not their start-up.
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mmmmm
October 31, 2022 at 10:22 AM
I love that the production team paid attention to small details like this. It's almost like they hid some easter eggs in the show which should be fun if you're a viewer with eyes that look for details.
mmmmm
October 30, 2022 at 7:16 AM
And thank you very much, @missvictrix, for choosing to write about Start Up. You made me happy already just by using the pic of Dalmi and HJP together in one frame and how cute that scene is! 💕
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parkchuna 🍉
October 30, 2022 at 10:11 PM
Same..I see the pic and i click 😆
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mmmmm
October 31, 2022 at 11:23 AM
Me 2.
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sakuradaydream
October 30, 2022 at 7:09 PM
i would forever be a HJP X Dalmi shipper
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mmmmm
October 31, 2022 at 11:25 AM
*cries*
At least he had his own confession of love scene. He even had that heartbreaking crying scene with Halmeoni in addition to all those letters and a potted plant.. I guess we should be satisfied? *oof*
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3 Kurama
October 30, 2022 at 6:19 AM
Hum... it's hard to remember.
Racket Boys : When Hae-Kang and Se-Yoon are bringing home potatoes and Hae-Kang's pile is getting bigger and bigger.
Extraordinary You : Dan-Oh made a list of everything she wants to do as a couple and there is Kiss 100 times. At the end, it's crossed out as done in her notebook :p
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4 jerrykuvira
October 30, 2022 at 6:39 AM
Why mention Start Up😔☺️. This just brings up repressed shipper feelings.
Marriage Contract has much of the blink and miss it for me for me though. The scene where Hye-soo and Joo-yoen had that unspoken conversation on how she wanted to spend the money from the donor surgery. I even thought they would actually have the actual conversation later on. Alas! It never happened. Someway somehow Joo-yoen understood whatever it was Hye-soo was unable to voice out in words. I don't know if she understood what was going down, but she had the intuition to know that something was wrong and was going on, she stopped pushing for answers, and instead drew Hye-soo into a mama hug. It took the recaps to help me see this one clearly.
Or is it time in episode 6 when she met with Ji-hoon's father and colored Ji-hoon impressed with her act both before and after.
Or his realization of why Eun-seung didn't want to warm up to him all this while.
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knewbie
October 30, 2022 at 7:29 AM
YES Marriage Contract shows that makjang doesn't have to be Penthouse-makjang. The show's premise sounds like the writer was cramming in as many tropes and cliches as she could: terminal illness! fake marriage! awful parents! mothers-in-law galore! etc etc. And then she went on to develop it with a wealth of extraordinarily well-observed little details. Glad you mentioned Joo-yeon, who is the most convincing "FL's best friend" I've ever seen. That discussion about the money is so well done, with Joo-yeon being resentful at first that Hye-soo had abandoned their plan to set up a business together, then slowly realising that HS would keep the money for herself only if she had a very very good reason for doing so.
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jerrykuvira
October 30, 2022 at 7:51 AM
"Slowly realising" without Hye-soo having to say a word, talk less of an explanation of any sort. The way Joo-yoen understood despite not knowing the details is one of the best BFF connections ever.
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earthna
October 30, 2022 at 8:56 PM
Marriage Contract is so good. I'd rewatch it if the weather is better. I don't want to be too sad.
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5 blessingwind
October 30, 2022 at 7:15 AM
Secret garden- When Gil Ra Im was pretending to buy fruits so she doesnt show her crying face to Joo Won, and Joo Won came behind and found her hand was freezing cold and he took off his gloves and put them on her hands and put his scarf around her. Til date, i still remember this scene so vividly. One of the sweetest scenes in k-drama history.
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6 knewbie
October 30, 2022 at 7:55 AM
The rich and precise details of On the Verge of Insanity don't arise just from the excellent script, but also from the directing and - of course - the veritable pack of veteran performers who act as naturally as they breathe. Take that episode where the Han-myeong engineers had to submit proposals. I doubt anyone but myself noticed Choi Ban-seok saying something like "You don't have to write it down" twice, when he is mentoring the three guys and, later, Eo Hae-mi. (Jung Jae-young delivers the line with just the right combination of exasperation and modesty.) But to me that line has the resounding ring of truth, cos that is exactly what logical thinkers like Ban-seok always say. For them, the cogency of their ideas is what makes them so obvious, and they don't realise that those ideas are not so obvious to the rest of us.
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7 Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
October 30, 2022 at 10:05 AM
I always notice the English logos and expressions on characters’ clothes, to the point that I often have to rewind to read the subtitles, and I’m always trying to figure out when they’re significant details and when they’re just random or sponsored items. My favorite: early in Because This Life Is Our First, Se-hee wears a t-shirt that says “LONELY” (Jae-hoon in Love Is for Suckers has a similar Nohant t-shirt) and later when he and Ji-ho start having feelings for each other, he wears one that says “not alone” in tiny letters.
There are also absurd misses that make me wonder if the show is mocking us or a character: an “Indianana University” sweatshirt in something recent and Shin Min-ah’s ridiculous sponsored green Gucci dress in HomeCha that said “Seats Reclined” on the back.
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kd6606
October 30, 2022 at 11:31 AM
I also fixate on the choice of t-shirts and wonder if there is some hidden meaning I am missing.
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welh
October 30, 2022 at 3:19 PM
Yes, some directors like to use English words on clothes to convey that character’s mood, motivation or hidden feelings.
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LaurenSophie
October 30, 2022 at 1:14 PM
Those English logos just kill me because most of the time I can't decide if they're deliberate or just the work of a wardrobe person who doesn't fully understand English (or idiomatic English). I also love the phony school names like "Harvarm."
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welh
October 30, 2022 at 3:21 PM
Brand logos get censored due to strict airtime advertisement limits.
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bong-soo
October 30, 2022 at 3:46 PM
In Siwan’s TRACER he received an expensive looking ‘OLEX’ watch lol. It was an important prop so there were closeups. So I guess Rolex was not getting a free plug.
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darwi
October 31, 2022 at 10:51 AM
I am convinced that the tshirts in Fight for my way were deliberately choosen.
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SEDH
October 31, 2022 at 4:48 PM
Ha, very true! Also, the "Aguuc1M" sweatshirt on tomorrow. Classic
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8 Midnight
October 30, 2022 at 11:18 AM
Korean dramas do this especially well. I always see little details here and there in shows. Some of them are quite obviously scripted. But some are so delightfully subtle that I can never decide if it is the writer's touch, or the director's, or even the actor's.
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LaurenSophie
October 30, 2022 at 1:13 PM
ITA. I don't know if I realized it until now, but this is the main reason why I think I started watching them to begin with. All those little details make the story come to life in a way you don't tend to see in Western shows.
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9 kd6606
October 30, 2022 at 11:29 AM
This makes me want to go back and re-watch my favorites because I too love the small details that support K-drama stories and warm my heart.
I will bring up a couple of scenes that have stayed with me from a long ago drama - My Girlfriend is a Gumiho.
There was a focus on meat and food in the drama, because, you know, our leading lady was a carnivorous 9-tailed fox.
So one day, to cheer up our leading fox, our leading not-so-gentleman brought her a giant stuffed chicken drumstick. I both laughed out loud and almost cried.
Another small understated well-done scene was them sitting on a park bench with his pet dog. People nearby were eating ppl hamburgers. Both the dog and our gumiho's attention was drawn to the feast with their eyes fixated on the food and with open, slightly drooling mouths.
Shin Mina nailed that role, really capturing the behavior of a dog in a human's body in many small details. Her unabashed adoration of her human, fixation on meat, and just general dog-like behaviors.
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Diana Hansen
October 30, 2022 at 12:08 PM
yes! I loved that show so much I did rewatch it. Shin Mina was awesome in that role and oh so pretty in those dresses she wore!
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10 panshel
October 30, 2022 at 11:42 AM
When characters text each other, I always pause the screen to read their previous text conversations, which hadn't been aired or translated. It's cute how the production staff makes up text conversations between the characters to show that they communicate with each other.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 30, 2022 at 2:34 PM
In a similar vein, I always love when people are under interesting, funny, endearing or a combination of all three, names in other people's phone contacts.
Like Yu Ri being "Mutant Tiger Moth" on Jung Ho's phone. It's so perfect for her, her flamboyancy, and her love of red and orange specifically, etc.
Or ofc, the infamous ARCHAEOPTERYX in A Business Proposal, simply iconic.
And plenty more.
Unfortunately I can't always read either texts or these if they're not translated but always get a hoot out of them when they are.
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panshel
October 30, 2022 at 11:25 PM
I love seeing what characters save each other's names as and how it changes after they start dating. In Business Proposal, Ha-ri changed iconic "Archaeopteryx" to boring "Tae-moo-ssi."
Also love seeing what their KakaoTalk chatroom names are.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 31, 2022 at 12:32 AM
Can't believe she changed it honestly, *smh* I would've just changed it to "Archaeopteryx ♥" hahaha
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sakuradaydream
October 30, 2022 at 7:11 PM
OMG THIS
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javinne
October 31, 2022 at 7:18 AM
Lucky you that can understand Korean
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mindy
October 31, 2022 at 7:30 AM
Unless you're born in Korea or a Korean-speaking family, learning basic Korean is not about luck but effort :)
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javinne
October 31, 2022 at 3:53 PM
I bet... I personally can speak, read and write three languages, and I am still learning Italian and recently French. I wouldn't say I am not interested in Korean, for I am... but I suppose i don´t have the time or except for K-dramas, i wouldn't need it... so i don't have the aim to put the effort...
Maybe later, who knows... But thanks :)
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technicat
November 3, 2022 at 3:47 PM
I got interested in learning Korean partly because of kdramas but also because I discovered Korean has a cool writing system that looks like it was designed by a scifi writer and uses an alphabet, so after trying to learn Chinese and Japanese, this was a breath of fresh air. If/when you feel like taking the plunge, I recommend the Drops and Memrise language apps. There used to be a Korean drama phrase learning app called something like Kdrama Talk but it seems to be gone now.
11 LaurenSophie
October 30, 2022 at 1:00 PM
The one that immediately popped into my mind was in "One Spring Night" when the FL either drops or never got a set of utensils. Her boyfriend doesn't notice, but the ML does, and he quickly and quietly makes sure she gets utensils without saying anything. It's a lovely moment that shows so much: that he's aware of her, that he's likely to be a more caring partner than her current boyfriend, and that he's the kind of person who helps other people even when there's no direct benefit to himself.
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12 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 30, 2022 at 2:27 PM
Oh man there are so many.
One of the most recent ones is that before Jae Hoon kisses Yeo Rum in Love is for Suckers 8, there's a definite shift in how he looks at her after he hears her say "we're not 20 anymore"- now he knows she DOES remember the kiss from 17 years ago, his eyes widen and I think that's what made him make the decision he did (along with her OBVIOUSLY denying she does mind if he kisses another girl) whether it was the right timing or not. There's this tiny sharp look he gives her; he realises what she said even if she didn't.
One of my favourites in Healer is this point made that she struggles to sleep around other people, then there's an adorable flashback to show them as kids sleeping blissfully together, and a great moment later in the present when she falls asleep on his lap cos she's so tired and Moon Ho comes in and is like "I thought...-" and Jung Hoo just looks at him pointedly and is like "I'm not just anyone".
Ofc, the dog head cane knife in ADAMAS, will forever be *chefs kiss*.
You Are My Spring is full of tiny little *directing* details, just full of them.
And they all back each other up w context too.
One specific one that always sticks in my mind though, is, there's a hug scene where she comes back after he confesses and its shot from inside the house through the open window into the entrance way, where they're separated by the framing of this window and the light is off. And then she moves forward to hug him, breaking the framing and switching the light on with her movement so they hug in this warm light instead of this cold dark, together, rather than alone, and it's the PERFECT visual representation of what the show is about- they find each other again after a long cold winter, they become each other's spring, and spring is hope and new life and light after the dark. !!!!! Hnnng. Obsessed.
So many to love, so many to also forget, will come back with more later, and when I think of any that aren't just "oh idk, all of White Christmas and Extracurricular?", again... ;)
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kd6606
October 30, 2022 at 3:22 PM
I too loved that moment from Healer. And another that comes to mind is when he was gassed and she comes to the rescue. She just lets him sleep in her lap and there was some commentary about how he never really gets to sleep. [Of course, lol!, this was one of those non-sequitor moments when I also thought, wouldn't it be wise to get out of there? but I digress]
And another from Healer, his expression when she jumps out to embrace all the ex-cons and is clearly embraced by them.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
October 30, 2022 at 3:36 PM
Yess. So many good ones from Healer.
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Kafiyah Bello
October 31, 2022 at 1:16 PM
You have a good eye, the Love is for Suckers one is very good.
Also 100% on Healer. Another good one is when Ahjumma fixes herself up to go to her, like a mother in law seeing her daughter in law, so she wanted to look nice.
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13 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
October 30, 2022 at 5:48 PM
Too sad my memory is trash. 🥲
Idk if this applies but something I really liked in Misaeng was Dong Shik helping Geu Re.
Everytime DS gave him a little look or nod to help him understand the situation, to prevent him from doing/saying something he shouldn't etc was a "blink-and-you-miss-it" moment for me. One I really liked.
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14 petrolia
October 31, 2022 at 12:26 AM
I love the telephones in When the Weather is fine! (On Dramabeans it's referred to as something something beautigul day...I think) The Goodnight bookstore has a mock 1920ies one, Halmoni's guesthose a nice red 1980ies plastic beauty, and somewhen in the drama our heroine is even calling from a phone box. There maybe even more, but these are the ones I remember from the top of my head.
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15 jae
October 31, 2022 at 1:56 AM
Hospital Playlist ep.7 when they do carpool to dinner.. The topics and situation of conversation in car was very detail and feels real.. It's just like we do carpool with our best friends, we will discuss other topics without waiting first topics finished ^^
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mmmmm
October 31, 2022 at 2:49 AM
Oh yes. The joy of always interrupting and being interrupted by another (or multiple) enthusiastic speakers! So fun.
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16 LadyShayo
October 31, 2022 at 5:00 AM
Can't even point anything out rn but it's usually the *unawareness* of the actions that make them so good
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17 dramamad
October 31, 2022 at 6:59 AM
The glasses drop before the Chicago typewriter kiss 😍
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dramamad
October 31, 2022 at 7:05 AM
Also when he pulls her close to him because he knows this is the first and last time he will allow something like this to happen between them
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Kafiyah Bello
October 31, 2022 at 1:18 PM
Yes yes yes yes
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18 darwi
October 31, 2022 at 9:11 AM
In Melting me softly the main leads are supposed to have lower body temperature. And they constantly ask for cold drink of other way to feel less hot. (it's the only thing that this drama has right)
When a ML open a car door for FL, quite often he puts his hand so that she does not hurt her head. I find it very attentionate (and a bit unnecessary). However it is so frequent that now I notice when it's not done.
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mmmmm
October 31, 2022 at 10:23 AM
And the SML did this to the FL in Start-Up! *cries*
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19 Kafiyah Bello
October 31, 2022 at 1:23 PM
Literally everything from Being Melo. However, my favorite is in the 1st episode when they are celebrating the documentary doing. They are walking and then start a slide and glide across the theater floor. So you know they are friends and that is when I knew the drama was for me.
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abalyn
October 31, 2022 at 6:04 PM
That show also did ppl so well that it became meta.
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neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
November 1, 2022 at 6:37 AM
The PPL meta in Melo Me was one of the best in kdramaland.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 1, 2022 at 4:46 PM
Totally! All the meta moments.
One of my fave blink and you miss it moment is when Han-joo was going full aegyo OPPA and there was a cut of her coworker (played by Gong Myung) doing a slow thumbs up in the corner. He is basically the audience watching this impressive display.
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20 pohonphee
November 1, 2022 at 5:08 AM
All the details in My Liberation Note from acting precision, juxtaposition plots, to characters' costums, thought and behaviors. ❤❤❤❤
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21 OldLawyer
November 1, 2022 at 7:56 PM
I took some time to think about this and realized that we may be seeing this idea of little details being used effectively in the currently airing weekender THREE BOLD SIBLINGS, a show I had criticized for being overfocused on the lead characters through the first nine episodes (I still think so). But starting in episode ten the writer has shown me why she is so well regarded- not in the story of the two leads but rather in the story of the FL’s little sister.
Little sister’s heartbreak was actually revealed to her at the Pilates Club by her no ex-future sister-in-law in a scene witnessed by the club’ newest (strong and handsome) member- who is busy changing out a ceiling light because little sister had mistaken him for an electrician (but he is obligingly fixing the light anyway). As he finishes and turns the light on, he says “It’s pretty”. He is looking at the light, but he is not talking about the light.
Of course, I thought that maybe Moo-young, the new client, might be the guy little sister will end up with. But how to tell? See how the writer uses the power of small details with three brief vignettes:
In our next vignette (now in episode 11)- she angrily threw an exercise ball at the ML’s little sister- who dodges it causing Moo-young to be hit instead- and splashing his glass of milk all over himself. In the commotion a potted plant to hits the floor and shatters- and Mooyoung cleans this up while making sure the shards are swept to the side so she will not get hurt as she rushes out to talk to her ex-fiance (who calls the police accusing her of stalking). Next a vignette without little sister- just a few seconds where we see Moo-young holding a marketing meeting at work: He is a top executive at a skin care products company. Final vignette: A very upset little sister has run out of a pop-up bar still wearing a bib. Moo-young and his driver are stuck in traffic and Mooyoung sees a despondent little sister walking in his direction- he gets out of the car and tells his driver that he will walk from here. To try to pick up little sister? Not at all- he does meet her but it is simply to remove the bib so she will not be embarrassed- he turns down her offer of a free session (“I’ve heard their too intense”) and walks away.
With a few deft strokes our writer has shown us a lot. Neither of these characters is interested in dating- perfectly appropriate in little sister’s case because it is too soon. We also know that Mooyoung is a serious man- he has gravitas in the original Roman meaning of that word and is the very opposite of a skirt-chasing womanizer. But, even though he probably would not at this point acknowledge an attraction to the beautiful So-rim we can see that he is being drawn to her as if by the force of gravity. Even more-we can already see how each of these people may be exactly the one that the other one needs.
All of these brief scenes cannot total more than about six minutes elapsed time across...
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OldLawyer
November 1, 2022 at 7:59 PM
... three episodes. I am impressed by the skill of this writer.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
November 1, 2022 at 10:04 PM
I agree, I was very impressed with the showing of the character of the man with few words. There are a lot of characters who we know by their words the actor’s immature and petty younger sister and the oldest sister’s step grandmother. They are both really horrible characters who you want to fall hard as they won’t learn lessons otherwise but the quieter characters like this man you feel there is depth to who they are. Initially, I thought the product placement was a bit random but when it came to this character it was part of the story as he is a man who is authentic in all he does.
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22 kd6606
November 2, 2022 at 8:52 PM
I just watched the latest episode of Love in Contract and came here to share two more stellar examples of small details. But then I realized it would be a spoiler, sigh. So, I will come back next week, that is if I still remember them, lol!
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23 technicat
November 3, 2022 at 5:05 PM
For small moments of acting, I like the fleeting facial expressions in Stranger, e.g. Yeo-jin's wry disappointment when Si-mok says he doesn't want any more of her (cartoonish) drawings, and Si-mok's subsecond smiles.
For story detail, this is more a long exposition than tiny moment, but probably because I'm an engineer I'm fond of the lengthy description of resonant frequency in My Ahjussi.
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24 stove
November 8, 2022 at 7:30 AM
It always cracks me up when FLs often wear Louboutin shoes regardless of being rich or poor.
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