Cafe Minamdang: Episodes 13-14
by meryl
Working together has proven just how fast our shaman crew and police team can get things done. Well, it also helps that our new couples are extra motivated to wrap up the case to enjoy their budding romances.
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP
Han-jun wastes no time to save Jae-hui from the burning RV, but it comes at the cost of letting Assistant Gu run free again and Han-jun injured and fainting from inhaling too much smoke.
At the hospital, Jae-hui sits by Han-jun’s bedside, while Hye-jun and Su-cheol hack into the laptop Jae-hui found in Assistant Gu’s RV. Hye-jun reflects that despite being usually coolheaded, Han-jun looked so rattled worrying about Jae-hui. Then she informs her new boyfriend that she’s probably like that too, so he shouldn’t die before her or else. Su-cheol only smiles, hugging her in assurance.
Inside the room, Han-jun wakes up and immediately goes to hug Jae-hui in relief. He admits that despite being a scaredy cat who often runs away (even from his own budding feelings), he thinks he’d probably come back to Jae-hui in the end. “Can you wait for me a little? After I catch Gopuri and get Jae-jeong’s permission, then I’ll give you my entire heart.” Jae-hui agrees, tearing up in happiness.
The next day, the police team checks in with Jae-hui and consolidate their findings. Jae-hui shares the childhood photo from the RV, while Detective Jang brings out a burnt yet matching photo, confirming Assistant Gu’s identity as Im Yeong-joo. Apparently, he was the suspect of Detective Jang’s first murder case, back when Assistant Gu was only a kid who burnt down his house with his abusive father still inside.
Back at the cafe, the Minamdang crew finds a photo of the name-filled gopuri knot in Assistant Gu’s laptop files and a whole folder of sex videos featuring politicians and chaebols (WTF). Do-won arrives, bearing a new lead: N.Joy Club, a popular dance club where Auntie Im’s cartel members (as Do-won refers to them) and other chaebols engage in drug deals, but they need solid proof before they can close the club down. So they prepare to go undercover.
Outside the cafe, after wrapping up the meeting, Han-jun and Do-won play tug of war, insisting they’ll take home their lady love while Jae-hui looks so damn done with their rivalry. (Not me. I want more! This dynamic is funny!) But Jae-hui points out she lives so near anyway, so she’s just gonna walk herself home. Han-jun joins her anyway, while a flabbergasted Do-won scoffs as Hye-jun and Su-cheol try to cheer him up.
On their walk, Jae-hui finally asks why Han-jun never let her see him in prison. Han-jun simply says he hoped she would live a better life and forget the bad memories. But now that she’s here in the center of the storm, he hopes to quickly catch the culprits, pinky-promising they can date after.
Putting their plan into action, the Minamdang crew and co. put on fancy outfits and infiltrate the club. The girls get in with no problem, but the boys… Oh the boys.
Stopped at the entrance, Han-jun blames Su-cheol and his frilly lace white polo and blond wig. So Su-cheol pushes his way in with physical force, lol. Just behind them, Min-gyeong and Director Park, who want to see the shaman, get kicked out despite being the actual chaebols. Oof.
Inside the club, Do-won is forced to play waiter along with Na-dan, who plays mentor to the undercover rookie Do-won. They find a drug user in a private room, and Do-won barges in to warn the girl inside about her drugged drink, angering the male customers, who then call the club manager. Unfortunately for them, Han-jun and Su-cheol have already apprehended said manager after Jae-hui and Hye-jun marked a suspicious person trading a red drug. It’s the same one Auntie Im and Seung-won have!
Apparently, the club is a front for supplying the red drug Ruby, and Assistant Gu manages the club. So now, the crew just needs to find Assistant Gu’s ledger full of incriminating information.
Except the ledger is in an ultra secure safe at the top floor of the hotel where the club is located and the crew has no way to get in. Until Han-jun moves his little chess pieces around. He has already called Detective Jang to bring in the police using Jae-hui’s authority.
As the police distract the guards, the still-waiting Min-gyeong and Director Park spot Han-jun and Su-cheol sneaking in and excitedly call out to him. Despite getting caught, Han-jun puts on his shaman hat to fish out info from Director Park regarding the top floor. And just like that, they’re able to get the password to the safe. I love how Director Park has gone from an evil-looking character to the goofball half of a comedic pair with Min-gyeong, both so desperate for our shaman’s attention. Their scenes are always hilarious!
Despite some hiccups, our dynamic duo gets into the top floor, and Su-cheol fights off the guards even while holding in his bladder. Han-jun goes ahead to open the safe and grab the files. But oh no! Assistant Gu is already here, and once again, our shaman and Gopuri come to blows. But Assistant Gu manages to get away again. (How many times has it been? Damn.)
No matter, Han-jun managed to keep one file with him. Even if it earned him too many bruises and wounds on his money-making face.
The next day, Han-jun connects the dots, painting the bigger picture surrounding Auntie Im’s cartel, including how the members are prepared to turn against each other, holding blackmail material in case things go south. Case in point: Choekang Insurance Chairman PARK DONG-GI (Kim Byung-soon) has an inspection file on the others, even their quasi-leader and his nephew Seung-won. Han-jun figures this file is now in the hands of Assistant Gu’s boss.
Do-won brings up the paper company KM Leaders, which is where Chairman Park’s assets have been siphoned into. Han-jun thinks that through this paper company, Auntie Im wants to steal the money from her Cartel. And if Seung-won and Auntie Im are working together, then they’ll get rid of Chairman Park. Which is exactly what Seung-won instructs Auntie Im and Assistant Gu to do.
In his office repeatedly clicking his ballpoint pen, Seung-won is contemplating his next move when Chairman Park calls Assistant Gu. Furious at his uncle’s betrayal, Seung-won rips a new one into Auntie Im and Assistant Gu. He decides to rush his shady business plans for the land development project.
Seung-won also issues a kill order on his uncle, and when Auntie Im attempts to protest, he nearly stabs her arm with his pen. Damn, you got some anger issues, dude.
Han-jun, Jae-hui, Su-cheol, and Hye-jun head out to find Chairman Park. As Hye-jun takes the wheel, scaredy-cats Han-jun and Su-cheol push Jae-hui into the passenger seat, because they know just how much of a speeding maniac Hye-jun is.
While holding on for dear life, Han-jun figures that since Auntie Im pulls the strings behind Assistant Gu, she would choose to do this final kill at a location meaningful to him: his old burnt-down house. This way, even if he gets the blame, he will never talk. And indeed, Assistant Gu is about to murder Chairman Park there.
The crew arrives just in time to save Chairman Park from being burnt alive. But Assistant Gu is ready to blow them all up, including Han-jun, Jae-hui, and himself. I’m not sure if I understand his motives here, and that’s exactly what Han-jun asks him: what does he gain by doing this? Assistant Gu answers: “If it’s for him, sacrificing my life is nothing.” Oh my. Is “him” Seung-won?
But when Han-jun brings up Kang Eun-hye, Assistant Gu becomes rattled because he really cared for the young girl who looks like his mother. Ringing his brass bell, Han-jun implies that Eun-hye’s spirit is still lingering around (i.e. Hye-jun turning on the smoke machine). But Han-jun does tap into Assistant Gu’s memories with Eun-hye, repeating her words asking for help, leading to the arsonist’s surrender. But things go sideways when Su-cheol punches Assistant Gu. Oof! Well, after a brief scuffle, they still end up apprehending him.
An enraged Seung-won berates Auntie Im over the phone. He tells her to take care of this problem herself, threatening her if she fails again.
So a disguised Auntie Im visits Chairman Park at the station. As they exchange threats, the chairman starts choking, before he realizes that he was poisoned using the water he just drank. Auntie Im dangles the antidote in front of him, instructing him to keep in line — or else.
At home, Han-jun is staring intently at his phone, and when Su-cheol takes a peek, he’s flabbergasted to see a photo of Hye-jun arm in arm with a guy cropped out. Unfortunately for Su-cheol, Han-jun knows exactly whose arm it belongs to. The overprotective brother blows up at his best friend, but Hye-jun butts in, kicking her boyfriend in the face just as he’s about to confess. She strongly denies dating “this idiot,” even promising to clean up and wash her hair every day if she ever does. So Han-jun is quickly convinced.
A curious Na-dan asks why Han-jun doesn’t want his sister and best friend to date each other, especially when Su-cheol is such a great catch. But Han-jun is worried about being forced to choose a side in case they break up. Na-dan sighs in relief that his boss doesn’t have a sister complex, getting him two light hits on his arm. LOL.
At the station, Jae-hui and Detective Jang interrogate Assistant Gu, who has easily confessed about his murders. But he takes all the blame, even as the detectives try to poke holes in his story. Really, just how did Seung-won and Auntie Im make Assistant Gu so loyal?!
The arsonist rattles Jae-hui and her team when he warns her that she’s going to end up just like her brother. So Do-won offers to take over the interrogation. Still, Jae-hui insists on staying on but agrees to a break.
As she leaves to find Han-jun, Do-won asks her not to go, finally confessing that he likes her. A regretful Jae-hui couldn’t do anything else but reject him. So our prosecutor simply says he’ll treat her as a friend and colleague moving forward. Aww, poor Do-won.
At Minamdang, only Na-dan is working the floor. Because Su-cheol and Hye-jun are having a date — in the shaman lair of all places! LOL. Hands on waist, Na-dan scolds them, threatening to tell Han-jun if they don’t go back to work.
Jae-hui drops by to ask where the shaman is, and with Hye-jun’s help, finally tracks him down at a camping ground in Gangwon. Apparently, despite hating the outdoors, Han-jun camps there every year because Jae-jeong used to go there a lot.
Jae-hui gives Han-jun updates on the investigation, even saying that maybe they can date now because they’ve at least captured Assistant Gu. (This girl is so forward!) Hiding a smile, Han-jun jokes that Jae-jeong probably won’t let him date her, especially when he’s been having freaky accidents since visiting Jae-jeong’s resting place.
That doesn’t stop them from going around town, shopping, eating street food, and taking photos. Basically everything normal people do on a [K-drama] date. And at the end of the night, they finally share a kiss! Took them quite a while, but they got there.
But bursting their happy bubble are several phone calls from Min-gyeong and Director Park, who have information on Seung-won. So Han-jun and Jae-hui return early to Cafe Minamdang.
Unfortunately for Su-cheol and Hye-jun, who have been out all night on their own date, they now have to sneak back inside behind Han-jun’s back. Spotting the wayward couple, a panicked Na-dan enlists Jae-hui’s help to distract Han-jun. Su-cheol and Hye-jun do make it back inside, but their stories aren’t lining up, so Han-jun just becomes more suspicious.
His attention is diverted, however, with the arrival of Min-gyeong and Director Park, who report that infamous real estate fraudsters Land Hunter Team has joined Seung-won’s land development project. After relaying the information, Min-gyeong and Director Park quickly leave, and Na-dan muses that something seems to be going on between the two of them. Aww, are we saying goodbye to fiancee Min-gyeong? Nooooo.
The team figures that the media play is meant to increase the cartel’s profit even if the project fails, but even with this knowledge, the rushed timeline means it’s unlikely they would find any evidence about the cartel’s evil plans.
But of course, our shaman has a plan up his sleeve: he wants to use information from Tae-su’s laptop at the groundbreaking ceremony. With the help of their “anonymous tip” and Chief Kim’s go signal, the police team mobilizes their forces to raid the ceremony in the middle of Auntie Im’s prayer ritual.
Wearing their own bright, poofy shaman garb, Han-jun and Su-cheol make a dramatic entrance. Facing off against the lady shaman, Han-jun openly accuses Auntie Im, Seung-won, and the cartel of their crimes. Damn, in front of all those reporters? Hope it works out!
In this week’s epilogues, we finally get a glimpse of the ties that bind Assistant Gu to Seung-won and Auntie Im. After escaping from his burning home, a young Assistant Gu faints by the road and gets rescued by Auntie Im and a young Seung-won, who has apparently been diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder, with his behavior being moderated with the sound of a pen. They really all go waaay back.
Flashforward to the night of Jae-jeong’s murder, we see two men in black in the room, with the other fidgeting with a ballpen. WTH, Seung-won is the other guy in black that night?! But if Seung-won has known Auntie Im for so long, how does Do-won not know who Auntie Im is? Or is it because the brothers are basically estranged?
Sadly, as we continue to unravel the truth behind Auntie Im and her cartel, there’s less comedic Minamdang shenanigans. Instead, those scenes seem to have been replaced with exploration of the love lines. Still not sold on the main couple, but our second couple are cute, if a bit cringey at times.
And while I like uncovering mysteries, putting chaebols and politicians as the big baddies is a little too cliche at this point. Things have been spiced up with the additional element of shamanism in both the good and bad guys, but even that is undercut with expert skills and careful planning (though I enjoy how that works for our Minamdang crew). Now, we’re just seeing more cliches of chaebol baddies and less shaman shenanigans when it’s the latter that makes this show entertaining and unique. Show, please bring back more wacky Minamdang schemes!
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Tags: Cafe Minamdang, Kang Mina, Kwak Shi-yang, Kwon Soo-hyun, Oh Yeon-seo, Seo In-gook
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1 Kafiyah Bello
August 11, 2022 at 9:08 AM
SIG, king of kissing. That is all I have. The show is coming to end so all the strands are bing pulled together.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
August 12, 2022 at 5:23 AM
We zoom in to the kissing SIG, amen. Female lead, what? 😅
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2 miso
August 11, 2022 at 9:26 AM
I'm still laughing over this show's concept of age and casting. Apparently Gu Tae-su (played by a 42-year old) was apparently a child when Auntie Im (played by a 28-year old actor) took him in 😭.
Apart from that though these were a good set of episodes. I guess we'll only get the deep, dark secret in Prosecutor dude's past in finale week. If they'd paced it better, he might not have been such a bland character.
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 9:31 AM
Forgot to add that I really like the CEO duo who double up as Han-jun's fan club and enablers. Was hoping they'd get together and they did!
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 10:05 AM
@miso2019: I haven’t watched these eps as yet but I know what you mean re the absurdity of how characters ageing is presented here. Let’s not forget the original sin of the bonkers supposed age difference between Hanjun and Jaehui. That is still gross to me as having met her a child, for him then to get romantically involved with her is a big ewww! Shoehorning that unnecessary and inorganic romance was a very poor decision.
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 10:50 AM
Yes this. If they'd had both play themselves but younger and sparred that wouldve made more sense. She could've been a rookie cop being too aggressive and her brother had ML go set her straight. That could have also addressed her aggression as a problem she should work on. This writer is just ... I have no words. I hope SIG doesn't do smoking gun drama. This writer was also going to do that one.
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 10:59 AM
@kelgabe7: I totes agree. Your suggestions would have likely improved this mess. If only!
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 11:23 AM
They definitely needed something that addressed her over-aggressive tendencies. What a needless character trait in a cop in today's ACAB world.
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 11:22 AM
Yup the leads' age gap makes no logical sense and has no plot value.
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Kafiyah Bello
August 11, 2022 at 12:30 PM
THIS!!!
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Britney
August 11, 2022 at 8:22 PM
I think the point was so that he didn't recognize her haha
But yeah, the younger ages are portrayed so weird.
Auntie Im looks the same in the past playing against kid actors and then they grow up and end up seemingly older than her haha
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
May 20, 2023 at 1:35 PM
I imagine he is supposed to be 18, and she maybe ... 12? And it's normal to have flashback with too-old actors pretending to be very young, but when you need someone younger than 15, you have a child actor. When you put the two things together, though, you have an actual child playing against someone who needs the audience suspense of disbelief to be accepted as "very young".
And e.g. 12 to 18 is a huge age difference, while say, 24 to 30, is not terrible. (And matters less, the older you get).
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velvetstuff
August 11, 2022 at 1:28 PM
I find that gross as well, but they didn't really specify their age right? I prefer to think she was around 16 and he was 20 or 21. They simply chose an actress too young to play her younger counterpart.
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 1:42 PM
@velvetstuff: You’re right. They didn’t. They just cast a child who visually appeared to be at least two decades younger than SIG (They hardly even tried to alter SIG’s appearance a la KD much loved tropes) so it was a mess and a gross mess at that.
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DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
May 21, 2023 at 6:18 AM
I don't think she was supposed to look old enough. I think it was supposed to be that kind of love that a pre-teen sometimes feel for a grownup, which is not supposed to be taken more seriously than their love for a horse or a boyband.
And he was supposed to look as young as possible while stille being too old for her at that time. The youngest age for military in Korea is 18, so I assume that's what they're aiming for. But as you say, they could have done more to emphasize that.
I have seen flashbacks in other Kdramas where the actor really only had his hair done in a silly way and wore embarrassing short-lived fashion, so it's fairly common to let actors time-travel wihtout pulling out all the CGI-plugs or even elaborate make-up.
pliplipli
August 11, 2022 at 1:52 PM
when I thought they couldn't do it wrong AGAIN, they did it lol it's a bit hilarious
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 2:13 PM
exactly lol
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ar_arguably romantic
August 15, 2022 at 4:17 PM
The whole age thing made me wonder if we were in an Alchemy of Soul soul-shifting scenario. Would have made more sense if this was like Auntie Im's mom. Kudos to the actors and staff for rolling with this nonsense.
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miso
August 15, 2022 at 5:15 PM
Seriously I wonder if the actors also laugh out loud and roll their eyes when they see stuff like this 🤔. Kudos indeed!
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ar_arguably romantic
August 15, 2022 at 7:39 PM
I'm sure they do! I would love to see their thought bubbles. Someone needs to use this situation with the weird shifting ages in a future drama about a drama, so that I can revel in getting the references.
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3 Kurama
August 11, 2022 at 10:10 AM
These 2 episodes were torture for me... I'm a romantic, I always have a lot of fun to watch the couple forming. But in this case, I don't like the female character and the actress... but in the same time, it's SIG >_<
For the story, the police and the prosecutor are just tools for Han-Jun. He's the one who understands everything.
It was really Aunt Im who found Assistant Gu? Not her mother? How didn't she become older and the boys are looking older than her now?
I mean Jae-hui being way younger than Han-Jun and being in the samge age than his real sister is already weird enough...
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Unaspirated
August 11, 2022 at 10:17 AM
I thought this was weird, but only because Gu Tae-su looks so old. At this point I have ceased being surprised when I find out Korean acresses ages, whether they are playing someone older or younger than them. It honestly seems pretty reasonable that she has looked the same for 20 years. Still, his age doesn't make sense. He's supposed to be the same age as Seung-won and he definitely doesn't look it.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 15, 2022 at 4:36 PM
At this point, I feel like someone either 1. screwed up the casting deadline and the budget and they needed to get butts into those roles quick or 2. the writer decided to go rogue and added all that stuff to try to get the audience to believe that Gu is a layered villain and now staff and actors are secretly talking behind her back over bottles of soju to drown out the experience.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 15, 2022 at 4:48 PM
I think it's closer to 2.
The writer wanted, I think, to try to add "layers" to Gu and Seungwon, and try and make it seem plausible and give everyone motivation, and raise emotional stakes (and then spectacularly fail at this), whilst also doing so ~specifically~ to try and maintain their misdirect about [episode 15 spoilers which aren't really spoilers]. But the layers have no weight because they're both done too late, and done badly at that, and also done for the wrong reasons because everyone who is a supporting villain is more pointless than not, and never was anything else.
... rather than yaknow... actually have a frakking clue how to write *anyone* or *anything* properly.
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4 DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 10:11 AM
This is only about SIG but I was watching “The Smile has left your eyes” - which I liked despite it being sad and then some - a while ago and Jung Somin and SIG’s chemistry is off the charts. He is magnetic as a complex and troubled character, and is just mesmerising. Jung Somin is very good too. They are electric together.
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 12:12 PM
I'd love to see them in another drama together.
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Kafiyah Bello
August 11, 2022 at 12:31 PM
Yes, they had bananas chemistry. Great drama.
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 1:34 PM
@kafiyah-bello: With your permission, I’m going to start using “bananas chemistry” on DB. It is a gem!😂
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Kafiyah Bello
August 11, 2022 at 5:09 PM
Of course, lol.
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pliplipli
August 11, 2022 at 1:58 PM
I think JSM shines with more realistic/slice of life drama, with a bit of melo in it. they were great together.
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 2:28 PM
@kafiyah-bello @kelgabe7 @jsourgod: A very recent RS interview with SIG for all of us to enjoy: https://rollingstoneindia.com/its-okay-to-have-a-bad-day-seo-in-guk/
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 3:54 PM
This article also has a video of the actual Zoom interview with SIG. Delightful!
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LaurenSophie
August 11, 2022 at 3:25 PM
I agree 1000% with everything you said.
His performance in "Smile" is still my all-time favorite and despite the extremely tragic ending, there are more romantic scenes throughout the drama than in any of his others, IIRC. He's so good in that role--enigmatic, compelling, vulnerable, charming, sweet, stubborn, manipulative--and his chemistry with JSM is truly legendary. He's a gifted comedic actor as well, so I won't say I'm dying to see him play a deeply troubled anti-hero in every drama, but I would love to see him vibe like that with a co-star again.
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DancingEmma
August 11, 2022 at 3:51 PM
@laurensophie: So wonderfully put. I endorse everything you said.
They have bananas chemistry in “Smile” as our Kafiyah Bello has said! @kafiyah-bello.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 12:39 AM
Soooo... uhm... leaving my thoughts on the drama as a whole aside, just for now ... what... what happens if I say I didn't think they had much chemistry at all in HMS... And that I found the romance dry and super boring and uninvestable, especially after the half way mark, and it would've been way more interesting if he actually HAD been a proper anti hero/ maybe evil and not just a giant misdirect copout.... 👀👀🙊🙊
*Ducks for cover*
*peaks out over the top of her safety trench, jester hat jingljng*
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DancingEmma
August 12, 2022 at 12:44 AM
@sicarius: You are made of sterner stuff than me. But maybe chemistry is like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 2:05 AM
🤣🤣 I think I would've been on board with it a lot more had he actually been as shady as they kept painting him at the beginning, if there was actually something to all the posturing the show did.
But then both the suggested dysfunction and dodginess came to nothing, and the incest was a fakeout, so anything more the show had going for it at the beginning (which I acknowledge, it started strong) had no point and became so agonisingly diluted, and they became a standard run if the mill Melo couple with none of the melo set up, and there was no reason for me to care about them or their "tragic" love story.
I don't like incest but I have to almost agree with LT in that at least delivering on that would've given a point to the whole thing pfft (if adding incest to your story makes it better you know you've fxxd up somewhere lmao)
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 2:07 AM
(not trying to romanticise dysfunction but just that it would've been more interesting to watch and have made more sense)
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM
At least it would have given them a reason to die.
Still I think we can agree it was an amazing performance by Ziggy, even if the drama itself was a mess.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 2:15 AM
@leetennant
Oh definitely, favourite part of the show haha - but then, when is he not good.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 12, 2022 at 1:22 AM
Hard to say really re the second half considering what a train wreck that was. I was mostly just concentrating on the slow moving rending metal and inevitability of the oncoming collision.
I still maintain that's the only drama that would have been improved by incest.
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Maya86
August 12, 2022 at 2:54 AM
In the Japanese original they are actually related, but I guess they didn't think Korean audiences could handle that.
I agree though, it would have been better if they had kept that part of the story and it would have made the ending more sensical. By removing that it made no sense why it had to end tragically.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 12, 2022 at 3:22 AM
I once wrote a whole thing about exactly that
https://invisibledragon.home.blog/2021/08/06/a-hundred-million-stars-falling-from-the-sky/
zzthorn
August 12, 2022 at 8:22 AM
@sicarius The Queen, just addressing the part of your comment where you felt the romance was dry and boring: I loved the scene where they are on the bed, removing each others shirts and giggling. I didn't find it boring or dry or unbelievable. It was playful and realistic. I know I am in the minority, but I found that drama to be a work of art and I loved it, flaws and all. Beautiful.
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DancingEmma
August 12, 2022 at 9:22 AM
@zzthorn: Actually, you’re not in the minority as 11 Beanies in this thread liked my original comment so there is 13 of us all together that found their chemistry strong and his characterisation interesting even if the story had its definite flaws.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 2:33 PM
No no, you're NOT the minority! *I* am! That's why I'm hiding in my trench with my unpopular opinion lmao. But that's also why I shared my opinion, to be contrary.
Isolated, I should've liked that scene, but within the story I remember feeling very little for it... ಠ_ಠ
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Maya86
August 12, 2022 at 2:51 AM
I agree, it's one of my favorite dramas and I found their chemistry one of the best ever seen in a K-drama. But apart from the actors, I think the writing also helped a lot. Their relationship developed naturally, their conversations were interesting, we got to see how they were slowly attracted to each other and how it evolved. It wasn't like most dramas where two leads suddenly end up in love for no other reason than the fact they're two attractive people who share the screen. In this drama it made sense to me how they fell in love, it was organic and I felt all of the emotions.
But also, it's not really a K-drama but a Korean remake of a Japanese drama so I dunno if that impacted how characterization and relationship progression was developed. They kinda just copied what the Japanese writers did.
Still though, I think JSM and SIG made the show with their portrayals. I don't think he ever had such natural chemistry with anyone else in a drama.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 3:03 AM
I loved his chemistry with Nam Ji Hyun in Shopping King Louis personally. In fact, I'm certain that drama would not have worked without them as leads.
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Maya86
August 12, 2022 at 3:20 AM
I honestly love Nam Ji Hyun as an actress but I couldn't take that drama seriously. It was so stupid to me (not the actors fault, I blame the writer and director). I guess they were trying to parody a cliche soapy romance or something but it didn't work for me. Characters were like children and acted ridiculously, like my suspension of disbelief was shattered all the time.
But I think NJH and SIG could have great chemistry in a heavy realistic drama that takes the characters and story seriously. I loved her in Suspicious Partner and I'm looking forward to Little Women.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 12, 2022 at 4:05 AM
Yeah no it's style is not for everyone 😂 that's for sure.
It's deliberately ott and ridiculous and for the most part is very self aware of that and makes fun of itself for that and you have to accept that to be able to enjoy it- one is not supposed to take it seriously I think.
I usually tell people when reccing it that if they aren't into it within the first couple of episodes, then don't bother, because it won't work for them! So I agree and understand- even though I'm personally ok with its ridiculousness.
That being said... It's a fluke drama writing wise, and even in its whimsical silliness- the writer had a lot of issues (DoDo), and Ziggy and NJH imo sell what with anyone else wouldn't be watchable at all; Louis played by anyone else would be insufferable, and they lend a charm to the story which is what endears it to me despite everything else.
But if you're looking for something serious, it is not SKL.
Kafiyah Bello
August 13, 2022 at 12:27 PM
I love Shopping King Louis so so much. I also loved him with NJH, they absolutely made that drama. It was so Happy!!!
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zzthorn
August 12, 2022 at 8:25 AM
I agree, Maya! Their chemistry was strong and powerful.
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5 Unaspirated
August 11, 2022 at 10:12 AM
Let it never be said that our Minamdang team don’t have guts. Those were some big accusations in front of a lot of people!
100% agree that Director Park and Min-gyeong are absolute scene stealers! Their faces when Han-jun and Su-cheol came in to interrupt the ceremony were amazing.
I appreciate that the team-up is moving things along more, but it is definitely disappointing that there are fewer amazing shaman shenanigans. Can’t we have both, please? But I guess they wanted to focus more on the relationships this week. Speaking of (and I know how unpopular this is going to be): I don’t hate the one between our leads. I think if I had just watched these episodes in isolation I might not be attached to the FL, but I don’t think I would actively dislike her. It seemed like she did a reasonably competent job in the romantic scenes, and at her actual job this week. It’s not easy to forget how tragically bad she’s been throughout pretty much the entire rest of the show, but I don’t have nearly as much to complain about this week, and that’s something to be thankful for.
Na-dan had my attention this time! I loved the scenes where he was trying to train a (totally hopeless) Do-wan, when he called Han-jun and was like, “Why am I the only one who cares about this cafe?”, and when he engaged in a little casual blackmail on Hye-jun and Su-cheol. He’s always been a fun character, but I’m happy he got more screen time in these episodes!
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 11:17 AM
Yes. Very happy to see more of na dan. I wish we could have more cafe team too.
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6 kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 10:37 AM
This writer isn't consistent when it comes to her characters. I believe she decides what she wants scene by scene and completely ignores what story she has already established. The plot can be followed but only if you ignore major plotholes. Example FL says her family let her come back to Korea to catch her brothers killer but she was already a cop in Korea and talked to her bro before his death. Now baddies have known eachother since childhood and Auntie im is immortal apparently 🤔
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 11:00 AM
Sorry. Meant to type that she was already a cop so not a little girl her parents would've had to take to another country.
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 11:23 AM
I was also wondering about that plot-hole. Are we supposed to believe that she was a cop, then quit and went off to the US, then came back and became a detective all in a 3 year period??
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 12:08 PM
Yes and not only a detective but leading a team of detectives. I realize dramaland requires us to suspend reality but there should be a limit lol.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
August 11, 2022 at 4:55 PM
Her being a "super cop" prior to her move in the current town is just unnecessary backstory. Not sure how she could have been that, when she wasn't anything like that in her current post.
I'm surprised that in Wiki and elsewhere, she's described as a "righteous cop". Didn't know that righteous = stubbornly dumb, hot-headed, biased. 🙄
7 Hormiga
August 11, 2022 at 1:02 PM
These 2 episodes were wonderful, I love the main couple and I can watch their scenes together endlessly, their common photo at the station was beautiful. FL is so sweet I am not surprised that SIG has soft cotton legs because of it.
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8 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
August 11, 2022 at 1:29 PM
Seriously? Hijack the baddies' event, tie up the projectionist and show the audience all the evidence on a big screen? Again? It's been done too many times.
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9 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
August 11, 2022 at 1:38 PM
I think I've finally figured out one the the reasons why I don't like the FL. Her face looks a bit weird, like possibly "man-made" but not skillfully.
I'm far too apathetic to go look at her past shows and see when/if anything changed, but the internet seems to think she had something done years ago. Maybe it just didn't age well (??)
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Kafiyah Bello
August 11, 2022 at 5:35 PM
She has looked this way for a while. She has some really fun dramas before this, but like most actors in S.K. She has had work done. She was miscast in this drama and the writing also isn't that great.
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Maya86
August 12, 2022 at 3:09 AM
I agree, and it's sad because she was a naturally very beautiful woman but the surgery made her look weird and unnatural. Like she's pretty but there's something off. In her early teen photos she looks equisite. Should have kept her natural jaw.
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SoYo
August 14, 2022 at 1:34 PM
I love Korean Odyssey but her face was a problem for me the whole time. Thats why I cannot watch this one. Her upper face doesn't move at all and it makes her look like she's in pain when she attempts to smile. Her only expression is to pull back the corners of her mouth. I find it nearly impossible to watch.
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10 pliplipli
August 11, 2022 at 1:54 PM
can't think of another drama I have watched where the romance felt so forced upon us than this one. but SIG really is the king of kissing scenes. he doesn't miss one lol
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11 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 11, 2022 at 2:12 PM
I want this drama to have the worst possible ending it can have, like, kill off a main character, pull a massive twist out of nowhere that makes no sense, full on trainwreck worst possible ending.
I just think it would be hilarious. Like the more chaotic the ending the funnier I would find it, and the more worthwhile it would be. Drama has no virtue anyway, just frakking blow it up, give me a glorious shitpost worthy ending please, chaos for chaos' sake, it would be amazing.
The ending will most likely be lacklustre and dumb instead of gloriously horrible, but man, if only.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
August 11, 2022 at 5:02 PM
Yes, please! Haha
Since the writer has decided to go bat crazy anyway, I second this. May the ending go off in a blazing trail of what the effs, the twist as nonsensical as dramaland can go.
Last minute amnesia, noble idiocy from non-couples, Truck of Doom from the sky, big bro is ultimately alive, etc. Beanies are free to throw in their best messy endings for this show 🤣
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 11, 2022 at 6:58 PM
*the sound of a Thing 1 and Thing 2 furiously taking notes*
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
August 11, 2022 at 5:48 PM
God, I wish the writer would do that and just throw as a bone after our weeks of misery. But I think expecting even that is far too much. IMO they’re pretty much actively trying to relegate it to dredges of mediocrity where it will be forever forgotten, instead of infamous glory that will at least make it worth an hour of our hard-earned time.
Anyways, I hope the brother turns up alive and well - he simply faked his death and ran away to Hawaii to get away from his violent sister.
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miso
August 11, 2022 at 5:50 PM
Laughed out loud at the last line
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 11, 2022 at 6:55 PM
Oh I know it's too much even to properly hope for- and yet I can't help myself. Especially in hoping Cha Do Won is actually the big bad and not his brother. (I will die on the hill that that would've been the better narrative option, even with all the extra plot holes it'd create.)
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kelgabe
August 11, 2022 at 9:02 PM
This writer doesn't care about plotholes. Nothing is off limits I'm sure. Lol
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 11, 2022 at 9:45 PM
Oh THEY don't, but I *normally* do, hence the caveat 😂😂😂😂😂
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
August 11, 2022 at 11:20 PM
Which is why they should’ve gone with Cha Do-won as the villain. Since the plot has as much coherence as a Tom and Jerry episode anyway, might as well give the people what they want.
12 ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
August 11, 2022 at 5:41 PM
The age shenanigans in this drama is getting too glaring to just brush aside. Not that the bizarre and unnecessary age-gap between Han-jun and Jae-hui could be brushed aside in the first place, but you’re telling me Gu Tae-su was a child while Auntie Im was a grown woman? Absolutely not, show. I refuse to accept this.
As for the drama as a whole, *sigh*. I disliked Doom at Your Service for its incomprehensible dialogue masquerading as depth and lacklustre writing, but there are still parts (specifically the parts where Park Bo-young and Seo In-guk interact) that were quite watchable, if only in a guilty pleasure, brain turned-off sort of manner. Cafe Minamdang, on the other hand, has descended from tolerably mediocre to nearly unwatchable in the past few weeks. Team Minamdang was fun and I was using that to justify continuing it despite my deep reservations about the FL, but man has this been a slog. The only reason I have any reason to continue is because I’m a diehard Ziggy fan and want to be able to say I watched all his show and because I can have that extra bean to my tally. I mean, even a Seo In-guk kissing scene elicited no emotion from me - I wasn’t even aware that was humanly possible until now and I wish I found out. What an utter disappointment.
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darwi
August 11, 2022 at 9:56 PM
I feel you.
I liked Doom at your service (which introduced me to Seo In Guk), but this week I have not been capable to watch the 2nd ep. I just don't feel like watching it.
This drama is so ... meh.
It is not that I know the story (I've read the book) because, let's be honest real scenario surprise are scarce in dramaland).
A few weeks ago, I found SIG sexy in his flowerly ajuma costume. Now... I have no motivation to watch him.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 11, 2022 at 10:11 PM
The age shenanigans are nuts.
I was busy wiping my memory of Ziggy at the age of about 30 interacting with a Jae-hee that's all of 14 at the outside and still thinking she's a potential love interest (and trying to work out what pocket universe of altered time that flashback existed in anyway since they're now almost the same age). But now they expect me to believe that Aunty Im is older than Tae-su?
I know this show is basically a cartoon but its altered physics needs some explaining.
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
August 11, 2022 at 11:28 PM
Calling this show a cartoon is honestly an insult to most cartoons. At least most of those universes have in-universe consistency, something this show does not.
The only possible explanation for the stupid aging physics is that certain people in this world stop aging biologically after they hit a certain threshold. It’s just too bad the audience has to figure out for themselves that this is a thing. If only the writer did some writing.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 15, 2022 at 5:03 PM
I feel like DAYS tried - from both a writing and directing standpoint. It had ambition even though the result was blah. There were a lot of engaging moments even though they didn't coalesce well as a whole story.
For Cafe Minamdang, I'm not so sure I'm getting the feeling that they're trying? The writer's last work was The Emperor: Owner of the Mask from 3 years ago. I only watched clips of it here and there, but that screenplay did win an award. And I'm not sure if the novel source material is holding the writer back. I haven't seen the director's previous works. It just feels like someone threw this onto their tables and was like churn out something quick or else. I'm sympathetic to those types of cases, but man, it's like a black mark on their resumes.
I'm watching it because it's easy to stream on netflix, and I do it when I clean/prep food. If this was on DisneyPlus and if I had to pirate it on my laptop, then I would have quit after the 3rd week.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 15, 2022 at 5:34 PM
It might have won an award but I'm fairly certain that every bean that watched it will tell you it wasn't deserving of it. lmao.
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ar_arguably romantic
August 15, 2022 at 7:46 PM
yeah i remember it receiving a lukewarm response and the FL being underwritten.
Yoo Seung-ho and Kim So-hyun were probably the ones who kept the drama afloat.
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13 FormAnOrderlyQueue
August 11, 2022 at 6:45 PM
Much as I love SIG, the romance between Hanjun and Jaehui is just so bleeeeuuuurgh. As he was trying to rescue her from the caravan, I just kept thinking, "This would be so much more effective if Hanjun just had a compulsion to save people from burning buildings now." If he'd rescued her because of that, I would have bought it; but suggesting he can't live without her? What IS that?? Still feels like it came out of nowhere for me; much better if they came to be bickering best friends with boyfriend Do-won rolling his eyes at their antics.
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darwi
August 11, 2022 at 9:57 PM
Your idea of the relationships are much better than in the drama.
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14 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 11, 2022 at 8:01 PM
Boo to the show that started off being Scooby Doo and then gave me... this.
I'm going to end up finishing this turgid mess, aren't I?
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 11, 2022 at 9:45 PM
We are yeah... I should've shitposted this, what am I even doing.
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
August 11, 2022 at 11:31 PM
Hey, at least you get an extra bean to assign to a better drama at the end of the year? (Trying and failing to look for positives.)
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15 lapislazulii
August 12, 2022 at 3:57 AM
I dropped this show yonkers ago to safeguard my love of SIG (but mainly because I genuinely could not stand the FL). I've been reading the recaps though because FOMO and I have to say, the best part of my week is reading everyones comments under the recaps for this show because they're so damn hilarious 😂 Just the sheer 'wtf is happening' 'can my love for SIG take me to the finish line, crawling at least??' and all the other really funny statements, observations, and witticisms on the uh 'charms' of this drama make me laugh out loud!! You guys are all so great with the commentary, it makes up for the apparent mess - thank you!!
I'm not one to miss out on a SIG kiss scene though so you bet I went and watched the latest episode specifically for the kiss. Hate the FL still but SIG indeed is the King of Kissing *sighs* 😍
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16 Deeja
August 12, 2022 at 5:40 AM
So finally they kiss. Have to fast forward the love line part. Can't believe it took nearly half an hour of the episode. I thought I was the only one felt weird by their. Guess I'd just have to ignore that. Here's hoping more of the Cafe's crew action next week (plus the police team minus the FL), they're the only reason I keep on watching this show.
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17 Toodlepip
August 13, 2022 at 10:06 AM
I'm finally up to date with this, I'm slogging it out to the end. I agree with previous comments re FL, but now that the original killer is out of the picture in so far as he's caught, it's becoming hard work.
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hmwtx
August 16, 2022 at 7:20 PM
i just caught up on this one too... it is fun to watch, I have been ignoring the gaping holes in the plot and the age gaps that seem to freak everyone else out. I also am not fond of the FL, but I just think of her as a foil for some of the ML's goofiness. I don't care that much about anything that is happening in the show, although I do have my own theories about Do-Won and Gu Tae-Su. Mostly I am bugged about Tae-Su's name... he's just the low-cal/caffeine-free version of Tae-Su in Monster, the wonderfully psycho one played by Lee Min-Ki years ago.
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18 nigirisushi
August 13, 2022 at 10:13 AM
I give up on trying to make sense of the age or timeline in this drama.
When the brother died in the earlier episode, wasn't there a scene showing the rest of the family with a child version of the FL, saying that they would move to the States to recover from the brother's death? Did I imagine the scene? I was so confused they later showed the adult FL working as a policeman when the brother died.
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