The King’s Affection: Episodes 13-14 Open Thread
by missvictrix
The moment we’ve been waiting and watching for is finally here, but that doesn’t mean our couple’s love story gets any easier. New obstacles arise, as do new duties to king and country. But the more in love these two get, the harder it is for them to keep a lid on it, and it leads down a dangerous road.
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP
Ladies and gentlemen! That delicious moment of anagnorisis is here — well, maybe I’m giving this big reveal moment a little more dramatic function than it actually has. But still, Ji-woon (finally) learns that his beloved prince is actually a woman, and a menboong ensues.
For me, this was the strongest moment of this week’s episodes entirely — not only how the moment was captured, but how it was suspended. We start up with the reveal scene again as Episode 13 opens, but it’s layered with all this emotional complexity. So good! Rather than a happy kiss and nothing complicated, instead we have this glorious tangle of vulnerability, confusion, a bond grown tighter, a bond changed, a love that’s altered but also as stable as ever… in short, it’s a beautiful mess.
When Ji-woon confirms that nothing has changed for him, the two settle into the perfection of this new bond, and new freedom. Ji-woon treats Dam-yi’s seemingly-dire arm wound (yay skinship!) and soon the two find themselves hatching a plan for their future life together hidden in the woods, which is my favorite thing ever. The humiliation and terror of dethronement was actually also freedom, and it’s like a gush of fresh air.
It’s so great that it can’t last, of course, and here’s where I take the nearest object and hurl it at my screen. I didn’t realize until the action returned to the palace, how very relieved I was to have had everyone (including us) escape it. But like a tractor beam, it pulls the crown prince back.
The king (who I was enjoying infinitely more now that we saw his secret-keeping abilities and tenderness towards his daughter) is murdered. A faction of the royal family (the queen and her father) conspire to this evil end, and the king has his herbal drink poisoned by an evil-looking green powder. In the wake of this, the crown prince’s horrible grandfather is doing his own conspiring to bring the crown prince back to the palace and have him reinstated. Which — noooo — eventually happens.
But first, the entire court goes into mourning, and Evil Grandpa uses the worst sort of threats in order to get Dam-yi to do what he wants. And so, in order to save her people (viz., Court Lady Kim, Eunuch Hong, Commander Yoon, and Ji-woon), she agrees to take the throne and become her grandfather’s puppet. *shriek*
At this point in the story I must confess my spirits were a bit down. We long expected Dam-yi to ascend to the throne (our drama’s title, after all), but I would so much rather have her living in hiding with Ji-woon. The palace is just oppression — especially with her grandfather pulling the strings.
In fact, I think that’s why this felt like such a boring stretch of the story. We know that if Dam-yi were really allowed to lead as she saw fit, the kingdom would be doing brilliantly. But, with her grandfather building armies and being generally evil, nothing good is happening. Hyun is still nearby, but Commander Yoon is forbidden from the court, little Prince Jehyeon is banished, Dam-yi is forced to marry (which happens shockingly fast), and overall I’m just as unhappy with the court as I am with the entire story right now.
The timeline of the drama also gets a little squiggly here, as we quickly have the enthronement, marriage, and the two-month period where Ji-woon stays at the court and secretly treats Dam-yi’s wound. He made a deal with his father, but ye olde Inspector Jung is just as smart (and malicious) as ever.
His new proximity to the king leads his mind down some paths we all hoped it would never find… he recalls the situation with the twins, the mysterious cross-dressing they did at the time, and the scar on Dam-yi’s neck. In the end, it’s this scar that is the undoing: Jung realizes that the king is Dam-yi in disguise. And just to cement that fact for him, he sneaks up on his son and Dam-yi smooching it out in the middle of the court.
And that means it’s time to grumble about the story again, because at this point we have been waiting two entire episodes for our OTP to kiss, but when we finally get to that moment, it’s utterly ruined by Inspector Jung gasping from the sidelines. Not only did neither of them see him, which is a little irksome, but we can’t fully enjoy their kiss, since it’s half for the romance and half for the reveal. Curses!
Complaints aside, I think the plot will pick up next week, between Inspector Jung’s new knowledge, Dam-yi’s secret intelligence chain with Commander Yoon (♥), and ex-bodyguard Ga-on who is slinking about and will probably come in handy at some point.
Another good moment this week (and yet another reveal) was Hyun admitting to Ji-woon that he knew Dam-i’s secret all along, and that he’s chosen to love her silently.
The drama couldn’t have set up a group of more faithful servants and lovers if it tried, so here’s hoping the rest of the drama will pick up the pace, start amping up the tension, and give us something besides scheming ministers. I want sword fights, desperate escapes, heartbreaking sacrifices, and achingly beautiful goodbyes. That is all.
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Tags: Bae Soo-bin, Baek Hyun-joo, Jung Chae-yeon, Kim Ro-woon, Lee Pil-mo, Nam Yoon-soo, Park Eun-bin, The King's Affection
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1 Jezz
November 24, 2021 at 11:14 PM
I love that kiss this week!
Great job, Park Eun-bin! Fighting Park Eun-bin!
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Jezz
November 24, 2021 at 11:20 PM
...and for my sad note, I can't wait for Dam-yi's decision whether she will be survived with a happy ending or she will be tragically dead at the end of The King's Affection's series. :(
I can't stop crying when TKA will be a tragic romantic sageuk drama as soon as possible. T-T
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Jezz
November 24, 2021 at 11:41 PM
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Jezz
November 24, 2021 at 11:43 PM
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rubytuesday
November 25, 2021 at 12:13 AM
Could you please rewrite this comment with a spoiler warning? I'd hate for the ending to be ruined for other beanies like it just was for me :'(
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Miss_elly
November 25, 2021 at 2:32 AM
thanks for ruining the ending for me. PLEASE put spoiler in your comment
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Jezz
November 25, 2021 at 3:26 AM
My spoiler warning!
I read the 44th and final chapter of TKA webtoon already and I found that Dam-yi/Hwi is dead... but I can't hold back my own tears for my anticipation of the Dam-yi/Hwi's onscreen death in the final episode/episode 20 on this adaptation.
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beantown
November 25, 2021 at 7:46 AM
Please hide the spoiler as a reply, so people have to click to read.
Thx
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kiara
November 25, 2021 at 7:51 AM
Ji-woon's character is not part of the manhwa, so I believe the writers have a different ending in mind by creating their male lead, who happens to be a doctor. I can see him saving her unless she is executed by beheading.
If she is given poison, then this is where Ji-woon's medical skills come to the rescue. Maybe Hyun will help dilute it, so they have a chance to save her.
While there's a lot of suspension of disbelief, I hope it'll work out in the end.
This is not your Joseon from the history books, so what's the point of having a tragic ending?
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Miky
November 25, 2021 at 10:34 AM
It's not a sad ending don't worry!
Miky
November 25, 2021 at 10:36 AM
She isin't dead
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2 azkiya
November 24, 2021 at 11:59 PM
agreed to your closing points @missvictrix i hope the show picked up next week. i actually found myself to be less and less care about the drama after ep 9, but still watching (i need bean! kekeke) while ff-ing many palace scenes (there are a lot!) and wondering whether the show is going to pick up my interest again.
I disgruntled at the presence of daddy joong during the kiss but i have to admit it made the plot more interesting, my interest has risen again and i'm excited to watch next week ep, realising the playing field is now shaken in quite intriguing way. okay, c u next week, show!
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3 Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 12:21 AM
So many things happened in 2 episodes O_O
First, the scene of the revealing and the next ones were beautiful! I loved to see Hwi lying against Ji-Woon and him casually carressing her back and talking about their future life.
Then, the politics hit and strong... It's weird how Hwi isn't in any groups who are fighting for the throne but she's the one who is manipulated the most.
I'm happy that her little brother wasn't killed, banished he can still come back. Her cousin messed up and I wasn't so sad for him...
For the Queen, it's sad for her. She looks nice and innocent. But I don't think she loves Hwi, she's more in love with the situation married to a handsome King, becoming Queen. Because she clearly never tried to understand Hwi, the fact he was banished and had to come back to the Palace because his father died, forced to marry her, who wasn't his own choice, Hwi chose Shin So-Eun after all. She couldn't not realize how Hwi was stuck between her grandfather and her grandmother...
I liked how everybody agreed about the fact that Ji-Woon is a rightful person and seeing him doing nothing was weird and sad. But at the end, he's still him and he helped Hwi with the book and just waited for her to do the first step for once! What she did!
Now I want to see lovely scenes between them even if the situation is dangerous. Hyun was clear about this, he doesn't want Ji-Woon to act as a lover, protecting Hwi is the most important for him. But I think Ji-Woon is the first who doesn't just share Hwi's secret but shares her burden. He doesn't want her just to live, he wants her to be happy too.
I think Inspector Jung will help them. He messed up so much by killing the Crown Prince, he killed an innocent child who ended up to his Prince.
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dramalover4ever
November 25, 2021 at 2:12 AM
I felt sorry for the Queen too. I'm not sure how long she'll be able to bottle it up though. She seems a bit too spontaneous not to spill the beans, especially as the pressure to become pregnant is dialed up.
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Esther
November 26, 2021 at 11:32 PM
I doubt he will, but I hope inspector use his brain and do just that. For his family’s sake!
Nothing good will come out of that evil grandfather knowing the truth.
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4 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 25, 2021 at 12:23 AM
It's going to sound strange with my general hatred of Sageuks and the billion characters who all look alike and the endless boring palace scheming, but I really enjoyed these two episodes.
The show has expertly sold us a tragic loveline of two people who pine for each other from afar in the centre of a hyper-superveilled, oppressive and menacing environment. You want them to be together, you're terrified of them being together. You want them to show their feelings to each other, you're terrified somebody will see them do so.
It's something Sageuks always try to do but imo fail at usually. But here they've nailed it.
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 12:39 AM
I agree. They made us being very undecided what we really want.
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5 wapz
November 25, 2021 at 12:52 AM
I'm going to throw something through my screen if it does not end happily for our Lady King! I'm ok with an open ending but not with a sad one. Let her be happy for once how she was a few minutes in ep 13. I feel bad for the Queen too and am hoping there is some way out for her. PEB has been great and Rowoon has improved each episode. Though NYS is green and it shows. He is good in scenes where he has dialogues but when he has no dialogue his expressions remain the same. Still, he is going well for a new actor.
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6 dramalover4ever
November 25, 2021 at 2:08 AM
I had to look *anagnorisis* up @missvictrix, and yes, it was that moment. I'm enjoying this. It took me a while to get into it, but the last four episodes have been great. After all, I'm into kdrama for the yearning, and we are now getting that in delicious spades full.
Also Bae Soo-bin is playing a great role as Ji-woon's father and as Lord Sangheon's assassin. He is shadowy, intense, and dangerously compelling (but so far, heartless). We got some insight into his character this episode and his point of view. He is now in a tight spot. Does he expose the King, fess up to killing the wrong twin, and endanger the life of his son? Maybe now he has to make a choice, something he claims he never had the opportunity to do before.
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Diana Hansen
November 25, 2021 at 9:20 AM
looking that word up now!
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Miky
November 25, 2021 at 10:39 AM
Don't think he'll reveal the truth as in the end it was his mistake and we know Lord Sanghoon doesn't leave room for mistakes...
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kiara
November 25, 2021 at 11:59 AM
Bae Soo-bin's role is not your typical Joseon henchman. I'm glad he is not wasted here. (Love him since JUMONG).
Same for Hyun as the 2nd male lead. He knows where to draw the line where Dam Yi and his best friend are concerned. He doesn't need to be a petty, jealous 2nd lead. He knows where he stands, and her safety and happiness come first.
Grandpa is doing his job as the head of the Han clan. If he lost to the late queen's family, that would end him and his line. They function as a family and not as individuals. He needs Dam Yi on the throne to get rid of Lord Changchun first.
I like it that there is a 3rd party; Prince Wonsan might be grandpa's undoing. The throne belongs to his father, the eldest. He is right when he says that the throne is rightfully his.
I won't be surprised if Grandpa was the cause of his death and that the Dowager queen is supporting Prince Wonsan.
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kiara
November 25, 2021 at 12:30 PM
I won't be surprised if Grandpa was the cause of his *father's* death.
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7 Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 2:17 AM
First of all: not so fast, @missvictrix, the "achingly beautiful goodbyes" is three weeks and six episodes away. According to my Netflix schedule, it ends in Dec 14, which has 20 episodes.
It is important to talk about this, because I think the pacing is nice these 2 weeks. Now Dam-yi's true gender is opened to Ji-woon (I wonder if Jiwoon knows it's his father killed Damyi's twin brother and put her in this damn situation yet. He will learn this cruel truth soon enough), then it is time to put more obstacles to our star-crossed couple. Yes, the story goes downhill from the reveal, but it is obvious Damyi is not surrendering, even when she said she is willing to be her grandfather's "puppet": Zooming down, she is holding her fist, hard (The show is giving us sign through her hands several times already, and this is the first time she's shown determination).
This is an important development in terms of her arc: Always she is not confident, and always in fear ("I always imagine the situation when my true gender is reveal before someone," she said to her father last week). Now she is the fearless and confident king. When she says "being puppet" for her grandfather, her revenge has also begun.
She is more confident and open before Jiwoon, too. In the end of Episode 14, she asks Jiwoon to stay longer. The kiss is not only romantic, but beautiful--Her freedom is not gifted by anyone but herself. Also last week I said, her being a woman, her love to her man, as well her vision to her country is now tied together; with her father mentions to Gaon about the Fu/tally hangs on his sword, this is the promise between him and Gaon's father for a new and better world, now it's up to Damyi to realize it, and I guess Gaon will come back to remind her, as she vows to keep the promise with him one more time.
At this same moment, Jiwoon's father discovers his son and Damyi's relationship. Now he is facing a choice. One of the main points in Episode 14 is about his choice. In the beginning he says to his son the palace is a place "where morally right or wrong is not the rule", and then we found out him and Commander Yoon was long-lost yet not long-forgotten friends (Yoon may need more of his mercy to make Damyi's plot successful), and now this. Will he sticks to his choice or will he regrets it and try to right the past wrongs? Now it is the question of the day.
I know the ending of the story according to the webtoon it based on is not a happy one (and not a good one either, which I have no interest to spoil here). However, I consider the drama version has changed some of the setting in the past episodes (one of the most obvious: Jiwoon in webtoon version disguised as a woman when he first met the adult Damyi, who has been disguised as male Crown Prince for ages), so I don't consider the screenwriter is obliged to follow the story to...
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 2:24 AM
I think the bigger change is Ji-Woon's profession. I liked they made him as a physician or intellectual and not a bodyguard. He's the moral compass of this drama.
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Ally
November 25, 2021 at 6:05 AM
I love that he’s a doctor too. ;)
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 6:29 AM
And a good and super cute one :p
The scene with the kid with red cheeks was lovely!
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Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 9:37 AM
He's easily fit in one of those smart doctors in Hospital Playlist, since he may have done some of those medical miracles in this very drama.
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Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 9:39 AM
For bodyguard, we have Gaon already.
I would say Jiwoon and Damyi change each other in their life. If you remember, Jiwoon becomes a physician for the poor because of Damyi's wish, and her courage to fight against her evil grandfather has his support.
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 10:52 AM
I know. But in the manhwa the ML is a bodyguard. They changed this part of the story in the drama. They needed a bodyguard, so they created Gaon.
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Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 12:09 PM
Not sure about manhwa version (I did watch a video about the differences, but didn't read it myself), but I think Gaon's character is much more attractive and colorful, @kurama, a plus for the story.
Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 12:31 PM
@imperialtitus You think Gaon is more attractive and colorful than who?
Emperor Titus
November 27, 2021 at 4:35 PM
Maybe I should say this, @kurama: Gaon's presence make the whole drama better.
I should check my grammer, sorry.
Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 2:32 AM
(Continue) ... to the end, so I guess @magajesj should be disappointed, and @rubytuesday should be relieve. Certainly it is only a guess of mine, so don't take it seriously yet.
On the other hand, although there is no more bizarre medical miracle this week (Damyi's wound has been properly healed in 2 months, with Jiwoon's attentive care), some careless plot holes should be mentioned, although it may not affect my evaluation to the drama as a whole. One of the way-too-careless person is Jiwoon: shouldn't you care more about your girl's safety then her lovely headgear? Jiwoon's father, meanwhile, may have been too exposed to Damyi and Jiwoon when they are kissing: I guess you are not supposed to be there at that time, so why don't you hide behind a tree or something? But I guess the two-month time jump, including Damyi's marriage is a reasonable one, since her marriage is arranged, and in that "puppet state", I don't think it will be that dramatic. Hakyung's situation worth mentions, however. She is the most innocent victim of the whole mess: she knows nothing, yet she gets hurt. She truely love Damyi as a man, yet she can't know her love is in fact a woman (and actually no love on her). This really breaks my heart.
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8 Miss_elly
November 25, 2021 at 2:43 AM
This drama just grips me every week. like others my heart was happy and breaking at the same time, especially when they were planning a future together that could never happen. Thats what makes their stolen moments so much more thrilling and sad.
I also feel for the new queen. She is so open, innocent and an overall happy person. She wont last long in the palace. By the end of the ep we can see her personality change after she was refused by Dam-Yi/Hwi. Its sad that someone so vibrant will be snuffed out, especially when she seems to truly care for the king.
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9 Normer
November 25, 2021 at 3:39 AM
Gender confusion and too ahead of the time, which I did not expect the writers to pull off such a weird stunt.
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kiara
November 25, 2021 at 11:02 AM
If we had access to Hwarang Segi, we'd know that same-gender relationships existed as far back as the 3 kingdoms era.
Women had more freedom back then, and Dam Yi would have ruled as a woman.
I don't know about you, but this reminds more of the 3 kingdoms era mentality than, let's say our time.
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purplefall
November 25, 2021 at 5:41 PM
This reminds me of the epic Queen Seondeok XD
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kiara
November 26, 2021 at 7:48 AM
I wish they'd make more sageuks from that era. Joseon raised my blood pressure. LOL
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Normer
November 25, 2021 at 10:30 PM
Actually, I was looking through a more “conservative lens”. JI Woon was unfazed after the “revelation “. I have to assume he is a “bi”? Which is rather weird because, you must really be ahead of your time not to withdraw in confusion if you are the prince, isn’t it?
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kiara
November 26, 2021 at 7:45 AM
I see your point.
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10 Jingbee
November 25, 2021 at 4:44 AM
Wait.. I thought the poisoning was engineered by the CP's grandfather himself (he was holding that poison container last week) and he framed the queen and her father.
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 4:55 AM
Yeah, I think too.
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latebloomer
November 25, 2021 at 9:36 AM
Yes, he definitely killed the king. He was planning it when he told Inspector Jung that he would be in touch soon about bringing the CP back to the palace, and he framed his rival and got rid of the competition in the bargain. What a master schemer! But why did the king's eunuch go along with it?
I think evil grandpa has to doe by the end. I just wonder whether he will be poisoned or executed for orchestrating the death of the real Hwi.
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Miky
November 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM
He saved his wife and basically he sold his life back then...
Reality is sometimes hursh an injust and people like him still thrive at the end.
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Emperor Titus
November 25, 2021 at 11:15 AM
It's pretty obvious [former] King's eunuch is grandfather's man, so as new King's chief security officer. Will the CSO stays grandfather's man, that's probably next episode's issue.
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Miky
November 25, 2021 at 10:42 AM
He is the one who did it...he planted the evidence and put the eunuch to confess...
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 25, 2021 at 11:37 AM
Yeah it was, he framed the Queen and her father.
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11 Scottie
November 25, 2021 at 5:30 AM
Now that Dam-yi is back in the palace as king, there is only one way for her to get out - death, real or fake, since kings cannot just hand in their notice and retire.
Naturally I am hoping for a fake death with the help of acupuncture, as before. I have a feeling that it was brought up now not only so that Jung realises that the supposedly dead infant is very much alive and the present king, but as possible escape route for Dam-yi and Ji-woon. I also think that Jung will switch sides (and die). He should.
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latebloomer
November 25, 2021 at 1:14 PM
At least, it doesn't seem he can tell anyone about his discovery because explaining would involve admitting he killed the crown prince.
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12 Ally
November 25, 2021 at 6:03 AM
Inspector Jung will definitely hide the truth to save himself. So many people in on the charade now that I’ve lost track of who doesn’t know our emperor is a she. But how good are Rowoon and PEB together??? I loved hope they showed his attending to her cut not once, not twice, but THREE times and each time was more intimate. And the young queen is being played perfectly too. I do feel terrible for her and I just hope she doesn’t die. And the kiss! I’m over here tormenting myself—I want it to happen, but don’t at the same time. I agree with @leetennant here where the show is doing everything right, dialing up the yearning, making you scared they’ll act on it, and when they do, you feel feel the catharsis, but then you fear the repercussions. Sageuks are favorites of mine because of this: death is always at your door if you step out of line, and so the stakes for true love are higher. The heart wants what it wants, in Joseon-times or modern times.
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13 Jezz
November 25, 2021 at 8:22 AM
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14 Flix_Crusin
November 25, 2021 at 9:17 AM
I think I figured why I like Ga-On so much despite him having 1 scence per episode, if that. I thought it was because leftover good impression from Cheif Kim after watching Moonlight, but no. It's the fact that this dude lives and operates on an entire different plane of plot than other characters of the main cast. He's going to discover Dam-ii's secret only to be all like "oh so THAT what all the fuss has been around" and hop off to his meeting at murder o'clock. I love his total ambivilence-though I am glad his path starts to converge with the main plot (he is looking for the enouch's wife, methinks).
Also, Ga-On, honey, you can't tell the king "You don't know anything about me!" Like who's fault is that? You never talk!
(Also booo for the king for telling him "oh is that your way of dealing with your anger" no bro, it's his way of dealing with the fact that the curropt officials that framed and murdered his father are still operating, under YOUR RULE. What have you done to keep up with Kang's promise?)
Yes, I am continuing with my tendencyo of prefering the minor characters to the main one. This week's special love goes to: Yoon (the MAN) Court Lady Kim (who is dying inside, constantly) and the new queen (who was roped into this and is in grave danger without her knowing)
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November 25, 2021 at 12:25 PM
The question, "Why do we all find Ga-on so hot?" is definitely a serious and important one.
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Jingbee
November 25, 2021 at 3:33 PM
Now that you mentioned it, yes, I am indeed more invested with the side characters also. I pity the new queen more, I applaud Commander Yoon, I fear for court lady Kim and eunuch Hong, I hope for Commander Jung's redemption, I would like to cuddle Prince Hyun and I stan Ga-on!
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DancingEmma
November 25, 2021 at 6:44 PM
You just channelled all my related thoughts you kindred spirit you!
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purplefall
November 25, 2021 at 5:57 PM
I find it's funny that Ga-on is technically an official but he just walks around the palace in Kwak Dong Yeon's style with messy hair bang and black everything LOL.
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15 loveblossom🌸
November 25, 2021 at 9:33 AM
I did love seeing Dam Yi and Ji Woon outside of the palace, forming a closer bond than before. So I was a little bummed, but resigned about the fact that I knew she would have to go back. To deal with her big role and all the politics. I'm glad she is secretly doing her own investigation and analysis of the different moves her grandfather and his minions are making.
I couldn't enjoy the last kiss scene much because of Inspector Jung's intrusion! Ughhh. It was nice to see Dam Yi showing more of her feelings and affection (heh) to Ji Woon though.
We got to learn a little more about Inspector Jung. I was surprised that he had been friends with Commander Yoon (glad he's still alive!). He could have been a basic villain all the way, but now he is more complex. Will he struggle with the secret he discovered? Will he inform Dam Yi's grandfather? I doubt it. He cares for his family extremely in his own way. I can imagine him saving his son by sacrificing himself.
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Kurama
November 25, 2021 at 11:06 AM
He clearly cares about Ji-Woon. He didn't want him to go back to the Palace because he knows his son, but he still did it for him.
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16 panshel
November 25, 2021 at 9:56 AM
I just want to know who in Dam-yi’s harem will consummate the king and queen’s marriage and help her produce a royal heir -- Hyun or Ga-on?
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Lonestar Girl
November 25, 2021 at 8:49 PM
Dam-yi can produce the royal heir herself with the help of Ji-Woon.
😉👶🏻👑
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panshel
November 25, 2021 at 9:27 PM
Can she hide her baby bump under her king’s robes?
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Lonestar Girl
November 26, 2021 at 4:12 AM
I don’t see why not.
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Kurama
November 26, 2021 at 1:00 AM
I vote for this solution!
After all, Ji-Woon bought for her a binyeo, that was offered by the groom to his bride as symbol of love., it was only worn by married women in Joseon.
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newfan
November 26, 2021 at 9:38 PM
What's a binyeo?
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Lily left the valley
November 26, 2021 at 9:55 PM
Type of hairpin. The design can designate status of the wearer, depending on material/shape.
Kurama
November 26, 2021 at 11:10 PM
It's a hairpin he bought her when she was kidnapped. He hid in a drawer when his father came in in this room.
newfan
November 27, 2021 at 9:21 AM
Ahhh, thanks @Lily left the valley and Kurama!
Lily left the valley
November 26, 2021 at 9:52 PM
This is my much preferred option. MUCH preferred. 🤞🏼
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Lily left the valley
November 26, 2021 at 9:51 PM
I admit, this has been sitting at the back of my mind for a while since the talk of marriage came up. Worst case scenario if they go uber creepy--the grandfather plans to do it himself--and I hate my brain for thinking that. But seriously...WHO WOULD BE SHOCKED AT THAT LEVEL OF DEPRAVITY FROM HIM? 😟
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17 Sunila
November 25, 2021 at 10:46 AM
I don’t think it was the queen and her father who poisoned the king’s drink. Wasn’t it Lord Sangheon who poisoned it and made it look like they did?
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18 LaurenSophie
November 25, 2021 at 11:41 AM
I enjoyed these episodes as well, but have a couple of questions.
First, is there any reason beyond impatience and a desire to have a puppet in charge that the grandfather wants the Crown Prince on the throne? It's true that I zone out a bit when the focus turns to palace intrigue, but I realized that I have no clear idea of Evil Grandpa's motives.
Second, I don't understand why we never get a sense of anyone questioning the CP's romantic or sexual interests. Certainly, this would have been the source of much speculation and gossip starting when he was a young teen. And it would amp up once word got out--and word would get out--that his marriage hadn't been consummated. I understand I shouldn't be looking for realism here, but I find the absence of any acknowledgment or inclusion of this kind of idle talk to be odd.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 25, 2021 at 12:22 PM
Once the Crown Prince was dethroned, it put the King's younger son in the line of succession. If Grandpa wants his family on the throne then he had to act quickly before the Queen's family could solidify the younger son's position. The funeral gave him a reason to bring the Crown Prince back and put him on the throne. Otherwise, the younger son would have been King eventually instead and Grandpa's power base would have been eroded.
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LaurenSophie
November 25, 2021 at 2:14 PM
Thank you so much for the explanation.
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Kurama
November 26, 2021 at 12:55 AM
The grandfather wants power, the best thing is to control the King. It's only way to access to the throne is by his grandson. He's only the father of Hwi's mother who is dead. He has no control on the rabbit, Prince Jehyeon, or the tiger, Prince Wonsan, who could be King too.
Actually, her uncle did question her sexual interests.
I think everybody was happy that the Crown Prince was perfect, he wouldn't go outside the Palace to meet women.
But when the uncle had doubts and sent him a woman, he was hit and threaten by the grandmother, the grandfather and the cousin... I don't think anybody would make the same mistake.
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Lonestar Girl
November 26, 2021 at 5:03 AM
Good job, @kurama! I’m impressed you remember the designations of rabbit and tiger. And your right about that evil uncle questioning her sexual interests. He had no filter, so he’s also the only one who openly stated the Prince looks like a woman. I have wondered if they’ve all secretly known. Even the evil grandpa. But they’re playing the game of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to protect their political interests.
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19 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
November 25, 2021 at 11:55 AM
Bring Ga-on back and kill the grandfather!
I actually thought this would end at 16eps and was able to catch up today to prepare for Monday but boom, it's 20eps. Time to pause and wait for Ga-on's return.
Since I'm also watching Red Sleeve, there are times I mix the royal family xD.
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Over-Dramaddictally
November 26, 2021 at 3:12 PM
Same thing happening to me with Red Sleeve 😆
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neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
November 27, 2021 at 7:10 AM
after watching the latest ep of Red Sleeve, I found the adopted son (Red Sleeve) has similar features with Hyun's older bro (TKA). That's why I got confused with the royal fam xD
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Over-Dramaddictally
November 27, 2021 at 6:15 PM
I thought the same thing!
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20 redfox
November 25, 2021 at 2:19 PM
I supposed inspector Jung hasnt gotten any in a long time. why else would he be so bitter.
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21 Alluvial_Fan
November 26, 2021 at 11:09 AM
The newly married Queen is going to be the wild card here. She's such a clueless woman-child that she will surely be prattling on about their "nights together" to her ladies in waiting. Can only hope that Ga-on shows up again soon to save the day.
Agree with @leetennant, that the writing/acting/production team is really nailing this one, especially PEB. Even some of the beards look real.
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22 Lily left the valley
November 26, 2021 at 10:00 PM
Still enjoying the heck out of this show, despite some cringe points most folks have already covered in spades.
I really, really, really want Ji-woon's Dad to do the right thing when it matters later, and for it to be beautifully poetic and lovely and emotionally conflicting yet satisfying because it was so easy to hate him before. Don't think I'll get my wish, but there it is.
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23 deokbokkijajangmyeon
November 30, 2021 at 3:08 AM
Love your recap @missvictrix but I believe they showed that Dam-Yi’s grandfather is the one who poisoned the King through manipulating the King’s trusted eunuch. It was his grand plan from the beginning, and why he had asked Jiwoon’s father to escort her back to the palace as soon as they’d left for exile. It’s also why Dam-Yi told her little brother that she’s the reason their dad died (albeit indirectly and obviously not her fault because her grandfather’s need and greed for power). I think it would be great if you could fix that little error :) anyways keep up the great work and thank you for all the time and energy you spend on providing us with recaps :))
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24 Xococo
December 1, 2021 at 8:02 PM
Does anyone else think that Lord Sangheun knows that the king is a woman? I think he has some level of affection for the king. There could be many reasons why he wouldn’t say anything about knowing: he knows but doesn’t care what her gender is if she gets the job done, he knows and feels guilty for his past crimes, he knows and wants to use the fact as an ace card to control the king…
Regardless, the theme of responsibility has been growing for the older characters. The late king took responsibility to live by his values, the plot is setting up Commander Jung to confront whether he is going to keep being an evil lackey for Lord Sangheun. It would go so well with that theme if Lord Sangheun could have similar character development, even if just a little.
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Eri
August 24, 2022 at 1:40 PM
I think so too. His actions and mannerisms make me think he knows way more than he lets on. He seems way too nonchalant to not be suspicious at least. I think he's trying to get his army together first and then he'll dispose of her once he gets what wants.
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25 indigoarmy__
December 2, 2021 at 9:55 PM
So when she confessed to Jung Ji Woon, is it meant to be assumed that he also knows she’s Dam-I? Or does he not know that yet?
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26 rcuauk
December 26, 2021 at 3:14 PM
I just finished watching episode 14 and I have to say, I am so frustrated with Ji woon ..for several episodes now! I know he is in love and wear his heart on his sleeve but he is putting Dam-yi in danger! He is totally clueless and constantly acting inappropriately towards Dam-yi. Hyun spoked to him already how he only watches from afar as to not to put her in danger and what does he do … light lanterns for her …OMG …seriously, what does he expect from her ….she is the King 🤦🏻♀️
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Kurama
December 26, 2021 at 9:18 PM
But Hyun and her father made her lonely and things harder for her actually. She became this cold Crown Prince who didn't dare to really care about people around her.
Hyun didn't say anything more because he was her cousin and was afraid to be rejected.
She needed someone who to lean on and to be herself with. Ji-Woon is the only person who let her doing that. So she became stronger thanks to him.
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27 Pripri
September 7, 2022 at 12:11 PM
Catching up on dramas I missed with db by my side. There’s almost no point in leaving comments a year after the show airs but I’m too frustrated.
Really? You have a perfectly good hidden cottage, you had to have your first real kiss in the middle of a well-lit path out in the open?? 🤦🏾♀️ I’m excited to see how Jung Sr. takes the revelation that he killed the wrong twin, and for all that he justifies his actions for the sake of protecting his family, what he’ll decide to do now that he knows his son is in love with the king, BUT there were a million better ways for the reveal.
On a related note, why are ppl having secret meetings in rooms with paper walls where anyone can be lurking and eavesdropping.
Also, I kind of hate the new queen. Yes she’s “innocent” and bumbling, but she’s going to get everyone killed.
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