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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Currently weecapping: Oh! Master

Sell Your Haunted House: I’m shocked we are already at the halfway point (sadness!), but I like the journey we’ve been on so much that I can’t be too sad. I liked the ghost stories this week, and overall I like how this show is a lot about grief, but I’m also at a point in the story where I’m ready for a bit more. Which is why it’s perfect, because we now not only have some serious questions around Ji-ah’s business partner, but she has finally discovered the true identity of In-bum. Their confrontation was rough, but I feel sure they’ll join forces (again) before long. The more I see these two together, the more I’m convinced they are perfect foils. Ji-ah is hard and cold and won’t be fooled, and In-bum is kind and generous and to the point that makes him easy prey. Bonus points for how he totally takes Ji-ah for what she is, and when she grumps off and leaves him in the dust, he gives her the macarons and coffee they were meant to share (favorite moment from this week).

 

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Dark Hole: This isn’t quite working for me, but I might give it another week. The first episode was disjointed and strangely boring given how much it throws at you. Although the second episode was a little more cohesive and focused, it’s still not nearly as frightening or intriguing as I was hoping it’d be.

Youth of May: Oh, I’m into this. The soft, warm colors and nostalgic, melancholic vibe are beautiful. I love both lead characters so far, and I already foresee that hurts-so-good kind of pain coming.

Sell Your Haunted House: Thank goodness for Ji-ah’s directness in addressing problems the moment she learns of them. I hope this latest discovery doesn’t lead to too much angst. I’m not sure what Hwa-jung’s game is, but I’m ready for Ji-ah and In-bum to team up and find out the truth.

 

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Sell Your Haunted House: After reading about how great this was, I had to give it a go this week. Jang Nara is hands down one of my favorite actresses — she rocks every role she’s in! I’m in love with her all-black wardrobe, gold earrings, and bold lip colors here. (Speaking of colors, the browns in this show are so deep and rich. It really adds to the whole mystical feeling of Daebak Realty and is so pleasing to the eye!) I’m super excited to catch up.

Youth of May: I’ve been highly anticipating this since my Lee Do-hyun deep-dive earlier this year. I was really interested to see how the Sweet Home siblings would go from a rocky brother/sister relationship to convincing the viewers that they’re falling in love, and I’m happy to report that they’re doing just fine. Myung-hee is a hard-working heroine with a backbone and is someone that you automatically want to root for. Hee-tae is very observative and I swooned whenever he looked at Myung-hee. I know this isn’t going to last very long so I’m soaking in all the cute moments while I can!

 
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Vincenzo - I watched this show mainly for the humour and absurdity and I guess that is why I was rather disappointed by the final week. Too much chasing, fighting, torturing etc. Plus a too lame use of the gold (like sleeping on it? really?), I expected something grander (and witty). Also, how come that highly competent Vincenzo with super-resources and super-powers (and super Geumga Cassano team behind him) was suddenly incompetent (and without his team)... and lost Hanseo in the process?!! If Hanseo had to die, I wish it were done in a better way. I also wish we had more of those little moments a la episode 18, like Vincenzo back in Italy eating pasta and opening a kimchi pack... or the Geumga characters drinking coffee a la Vincenzo... or learning Italian. I also missed Inzaghi (he could be the first Italy-Korea (love)post pigeon 😀). And most importantly: I wanted Vincenzo to use that VIP ticket!!!

During my Vincenzo watch I sometimes had to pause and balance the darkness by Dream Family... and I laughed so much when all attempts of the Actress to present her extended family in that variety pseudo-documentary totally failed, with the rooftop BBQ fight scene as a cherry on the top 😂

Bossam - I'm quite interested in our hero... and his cute son, especially together with the Princess.
(It's also refreshing that the secret is out so soon!)

May Youth - I wasn't sure whether I was ready for a possibly tragic story and episode 1 was not convincing enough... but then episode 2 happened and Heetae and Myunghee were sooo cuuuute together 😍 I like how Heetae knew from the beginning who his blind date was... and I loved how amused... and later smitten he was 💕

Still watching and liking Daebak Jang Nara and Her Psychic.

And on Monday The Destruction Is Coming To My Screen 😍

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Those scenes of the struggles of the Actress in BE MY DREAM FAMILY were hilarious.

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So happy I'm not the only person watching BMDF!!! For the most part, everyone is annoying except the wife, the younger daughter, and her daughter and sister-in-law. Oh yeah, the oldest son's son is a sweetheart. Literally, everyone else irks me but I'm hanging on to see if they're redeemed.

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Agree with you i thought i was the only one disappointed about Vincenzo's ending. For me Vincenzo didn't deserve his freedom he should be punish to all the things he did yeah i know he helped people seek justice but that doesn't mean he can be free and do whatever he wants to do. I didn't see the chemistry so I don't think giving them a love line is necessary. The Geumga plaza people became greedy after getting the gold. They should have made it a 16 episode drama First half was good but it start to drag halfway the drama. I love The Fiery Priest more which is written by the same writer.

Jang Nara is also my all time fave korean actress since I watched her in Successful story of a bright girl in 2005. I watched all her dramas except the chinese drama :)

Loving
Sell your haunted house
The Taxi Driver
Mouse
Bossam

Watching Darkhole but I still get what the drama wants to tell but I like it everytime Lee Joon Hyuk is on screen

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Vincenzo. I fare you well with tears. I loved how perfect this imperfect drama was. I know that whenever I feel a bit down I can watch one episode and will laugh out loud. All actors were fantastic but above them all, it was KDY. KDY is a TREASURE and we need him in a lead role ASAP, preferably one in which he’s happy all the time. Please.

Youth of May. It’s not that I didn’t like it, but LDH smile may not be enough for me to stick to the drama, although I will give it another week. (Note: please understand that LDH smiles brighten the world).

Oh, Master! aka Mindy’s drama. On hold. I’ll try to go through episodes 13 and 14 this weekend.

Sell your haunted house. My happy pill now that Vincenzo is over. I was really worried on how JiAh would react when she learned who InBeom really was, and I was right. And she (and us all) still has to learn what is Hwa Young hiding. Even if I think HY is acting this way to protect JiAh, I know she will feel betrayed and it already hurts.

So I married an antifan. Guilty pleasure! It’s entering the “it’s so bad it’s good” category, haha.

Beyond Evil>/b>. Finished episode 8. Drama keeps fooling me!

Dark Hole. I wasn’t expecting to like it, but even if the premiere was a bit (A LOT) chaotic, I did. Not that I’m really sure of what’s happening but I liked it… sort of… Let’s see if I can keep up.

I continue my rewatch of Just between lovers and I keep falling in love with MoonSoo and GangDoo. I love how their relationship is built.

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Hooray for guilty pleasures! So, so bad. And yet so, so weirdly mindlessly cathartic.

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Oh. I dropped after 20 min. At what point does it turn so so bad so good?? :))

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I want to know this too

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I actually gave nearly full attention and laughed out loud in ep 3 at the karaoke bar. But somehow I'm ashamed to admit this, NGL.

Y'all, it is not a great show. But my fondness for Sooyoung (and the fact that she has decent comedic timing) is probably a heavy finger on the scale. In this instance I shamelessly own my bad taste.

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Let’s see.
1- The plot is ridiculous. No way we can have 16 episodes in this. Nothing really happens during the episode, and yet it is entertaining.
2- Two of the main leads are actual idols and the one playing the idol is really bad at pretending he is an idol. There are not many scenes of him dancing and singing, but Taejoon is really bad at pretending.
3- The acting is... not good, but even so I enjoy it. As characters have no depth at all and they pretend to be intense (and are really ridiculous) I can only laugh at their well intended efforts. But in a good way.
4- everything is so predictable, in the best way possible. You say: now he will tell this, now she will say that. And you will be right.
5- things happen for no reason, because they need the plot (that doesn’t really exist) to move on.
6- second leads are sooooo ridiculous they are almost cute.
And then there are some good things: Sooyoung is doing a good job, as well as almost every side character (the manager, FL friends, variety crew). Even if we are shown a very soft image of the agency and the idol’s life, you can see some interesting behaviours and how they have their lives controlled and under the public surveillance.
Has it helped?

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Law School (Episode 7-8) - Mood: C+
I’ll admit: the show got me really good there with the cliffhanger. Of all the things to conclude the first half, not once did I think that there was going to be a second murder on campus! The thing that didn’t surprise me was Seung Jae saying that Professor Kim was at fault for him stealing Professor Yang’s laptop: there’s definitely more behind her character as 1 of the 4 main leads! Now that all 6 footprints from the 1st episode have been accounted for, the focus is going to shift towards the others: what will that mean for characters like Seung Jae, Professor Kim, the Dean and Kang Sol A herself?

Mouse (Episode 16-17) - Mood: C-
The majority of this week’s episodes expounded on the faceless underground organisation called OZ: honestly it’s such a big yawn when a new random character is revealed to be Chi Kook’s murderer and then he himself is killed like that. It appears that there could be different factions at play with Daniel Lee being in one of them but I’m just meh over all that government conspiracy nonsense. With that cliffhanger, the penultimate week will definitely focus on the tragic fallouts between Ba Reum and Moo Chi / Bong Yi: now those are the characters I care more about, not some stupid experiment.

Sell Your Haunted House (Episode 7-8) - Mood: C+
The amount of PPL that the producers squeezed into the 8th episode was unfortunately very noticeable, though what’s more frustrating is how we’ve finally found out the real narrative reason for the restaurant to exist in the plot: it’s just so that the gangster could be a spy and compromise the operation to create lame drama for the 2nd half of the show! I’ve also got reservations over unseen characters like In Chul’s girlfriend, who might just happen to be that secretary spying on Daebak Realty and hiding info from her boss like Hwa Jung. Ji Ah found out the truth in a very anti-climatic fashion?

Dark Hole (Episode 1-2) - Mood: C-
Combining fantasy elements such as sunspots, sinkholes and smoke that zombifies people would have been more than enough: I don’t understand why there was a need to add more plot lines like the serial killer, the corruption, the bullying and the shaman. Even if
Lee Joon Hyuk is looking like an absolute snack (he’s one of my ultimate favourites!), I would like to see the writing deliver some justice to his acting. So far, only Hwa Sun has ever been de-blackened due to her husband’s paranormal protection: why only her? Also, is it just me or does Tae Han possess black smoke immunity?

Youth of May (Episode 1-2) - Mood: C, Lee Do Hyun is a snack too but the story is downright worrying.
Taxi Driver (Episode 7-8) - Mood: D+, Blowing up bombs without checking that no one innocent gets harmed?

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government conspiracy theory is very anti-climatic and unimaginative for how the show started..

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Vincenzo: I wanted Vincenzo to go Bye Bye Balloon. Stomps foot. The finale was very violent. I’m sad about Han-seo. Agent Ahn’s “Oh My Consigliere” sweater made me laugh. Of course, the fact that Vincenzo had a fan club was disturbing. He was as evil as Joon-woo, he just had a code and people he grew to care about. Overall, Vincenzo was a fun show that gave me laughs and a good time.

Youth of May: Good first week. I like the leads, especially Myung-hee. I like the 1980’s setting with the Gwangju Uprising looming. The opening promises tragedy, and I want the drama to deliver. I’m guessing that the skeleton belongs to Myung-hee. Sniffs. Right now I can’t help but wish we saw an older woman learning about the remains.

Mouse: How awful that Ba-reum and Yo-Han were lab rats all of their lives. OZ is a twisted organization. They could have stopped Ba-reum at any time and saved lives but instead they killed innocent people to protect their experiment. Three episodes left but there is still a lot of ground to cover. I want to know more about Yo-han. When did he change into the cold and aloof man we met.

Bossam: Steal the Fate: I’m not a fan of sageuks but this one has an interesting premise with the bossam. Episode 1 was meh but I enjoyed Episode 2. I like the leads. I love the little boy. If nothing else I’ll watch for him when the drama is inevitably consumed by angst and politics.

Law School: I don’t know how the judge can ever reach a verdict when people keep perjuring themselves in court and then walking it back. I have no clue who if anyone killed the Professor.

Taxi Driver: The ending of Episode 8 where the Deluxe Taxi team nearly killed Esom’s character and any number of cops by blowing up the building finally made me give up on the show.

Dark Hole: I’m a sucker for the apocalyptic/monster genre but this drama is pretty bad. Lee Joon-hyuk deserves a better leading role.

Revolutionary Sisters: I’m glad the “murder” mystery came to an end. I don’t like Gwang-nam, but I find myself rooting for her to learn to stand on her own two feet. I don’t trust the writer to do an actual growth arc, unfortunately.

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That is exactly why I gave up on Taxi Driver too. I said this is just too much. It is wasn't heartfelt, I wasn't satisfied with the revenge. It was just dramatic and unnecessary.

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Taxi Driver is nothing but manipulative torture porn.

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Yup, there is revenge and then whatever they are trying to accomplish with Taxi Driver. It was disappointing because I am an Esom fan, but this is not it.

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I'm not a huge sageuk fan either but, like you, I really liked Bossam. It was ep 2 that sealed the deal. From the moment when he tried to bring her back and couldn't (because of her faked death) I was hooked.

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So on point about Vincenzo! Either he has a fan club OR he’s properly evil. You can’t have both.

But you could still have a balloon ride!!!

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Considering the kind of Oppas who still have fan clubs, I'm not sure this statement is true.

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Even serial killers have fan clubs, unfortunately.

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True. Though their fan club president is unlikely to be a government intelligence agent...

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Agree about Mouse, I’m keen to know more about Yo Han and when he changed. He clearly knew he was being followed around - was it a reaction to that?

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It might have been inadvertently Moo-chi's fault. Not sure if YH or others knew that he was the HH's son until Moo-chi went to his mom's shop and demanded money for his brother's surgery. We know by high school YH was being physically harassed by other kids.

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I too am still watching and loving DAEBAK REALTY. The pacing is just right. Chef's kiss.

On the CDrama side of things, I take back my nice words for THE BLOOMS AT RUYI PAVILION. Too much foolishness ensues in the second half. Long story short, they wasted the story's potential, had some nonsense going on, the male lead is an idiot, and the female lead *still* didn't deserve him.

COURT Lady - I mean. I'm tired now. This ONE central premise of forces separation doesn't need 50 episodes to come full circle. Non-serious people.

THE LONG BALLAD - all's well that ends well. It isn't a perfect drama by any means, but the performances are good, and it keeps interest throughout. I'll miss it when I'm done.

JDorama-wise, I keep meaning to start KOI WA DEEP NI, but haven't found time yet

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Aw, sorry you had to take back your words on RUYI PAVILION... the same thing happened to me. I wanted to finish it for the second leads, but there was too much nonsense from the leading lady about halfway through and I just couldn't take it anymore.

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I agree that the pacing for Daebak Realty/Sell Your Haunted House is spot on! I enjoy how it calibrates periods of tension and release—it's not all about cliff hangers.

The show's larger cast is excellent too. Shows like this and Vincenzo illustrate how well-written supporting characters and guests elevate a show's quality. I'm surprised by how emotional the show makes me feel and I really love everything about it.

If you're ever looking for a new C-drama, I recommend checking out The Imperial Coroner, a Thurs-Fri-Sat 35-episode series set in the Tang Dynasty. Hoping to serve the court, Chu Chu is a sweet and talented young woman who's newly arrived in Chang'an to take the coroner exam. Her talents are immediately recognized by Prince An, who leads the Court of Judicial Review. Affection blooms as they investigate a wider conspiracy that bind them together. Series earns points for excellent cases, everyone's smart (not just the heroes), cast chemistry and humor. Show is also enhanced by charming animations illustrating Chu Chu's autopsy observations and crime re-enactments. Available with subs on YouTube and Tencent WeTV.vip.

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I had Imperial Coroner on my list, but didn't have time to check it. Now I will prioritize it 🙂

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thanks for the suggestion. i usually stay away from Chinese productions. this one sounds interesting and the Korean dramas are drying up for me. too much mayhem and ahem for me.

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Yes! I agree with your recommendation for The Imperial Coroner . I hesitated to start watching it, can I cope with another coroner in the Tang Dynasty? But this one draws you in with a well-paced plot and, thank goodness, intelligent characterisation. Definitely worth a watch.

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Thanks for the rec! I'll make sure to check it out.

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I have heard good things about The Imperial Coroner and the premise seems interesting. I have added it to my watch list and probably try watching few episodes to get the feel. That's the problem with cdrama you never know after how many episodes things will get good or bad.

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I second The Imperial Coroner! Things make sense and the main leads are cute. The writing is much better than many high budget C-dramas. AND it's only 36 eps (40 mins each) so no draggy plot so far :D

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Just happened to check out this thread and just happened to see your recommendation for Imperial Coroner. And now I'm hooked. Thank you! It's been a long time since I'm watching a Mandarin show and this seems to have a great balance of political intrigue, interesting crime cases (and I guess kinda refreshing for autopsies to go back to the basics), great chemistry and perfect comedic timing d=

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Totally agree with whatever you feel for Court Lady. I'm only watching it for the leads but they are uselessly dragging it. It's addictive only because they give us a glimpse of them being together and then separate them again but overall it isn't good. I'm not dropping it yet because I want to see them together, I guess their strategy worked on me lol.

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@missvictrix I absolutely agree with everything you wrote 💕

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ship ship shippppppppp!

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...though my heart was braking for Inbum in that last scene...

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He was only a kid...

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Completed
Vincenzo - Loved it. The humour was sometimes hit and miss for me but you cannot fault a show that makes you care for everyone - even the crazies. SJK was very very good.

Ongoing
Oh! Master - This show is painful to watch.

Mouse - We're finally getting the full picture slowly. At least now Ba-reum knows a lot more and Moo-chi knows Ba-reum is the new serial killer.

Daebak Real Estate - I'm loving this show. The build up of the faceless ghost mythology was nice and it's refreshing to see leads working and coming together so organically despite the episode ending drama.

Law School - The character motivations make no sense in this show. And I still hate the editing. So many conversation cuts to make things more mysterious - but when the conversation continues, they always end lamely.

Taxi Driver - They seem weirdly unbothered about killing the CEO dude. I am torn between Hana being smart enough to mostly figure Dogi out but dumb enough to not feel the need to summon the criminal for an interrogation.

So I Married an Anti-fan - Dropped for now. Though I did get a laugh out of seeing the 'accidental' kiss scene on Instagram.

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Bossam - The attention to detail was nice after a host of fusion sageuks recently. And I appreciated the subs providing a fair amount of context. Looking forward to next week.

Youth of May - Engrossing start. I finished both episodes before I realised. But I know there's a lot of crying in my future with this one.

Plan to try Mine over the weekend and looking forward to Doom at Your Service.

C-dramas
Completed Word of Honor. I could write an essay on how refreshing this show is in the world of danmei adaptations. Although the show deviated from the novel in many ways, I was still impressed with how true they stayed to the OTP and how well the actors portrayed the unspoken emotions.

Also watching Octogenarians and the 90s and Miss Crow with Mr. Lizard.

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I love the world building of Daebak Real Estate/Sell Your Haunted House. I shared Im-bum's expression of awe when I realized her family's records went back to Josean. I hope Ji-ah digitizes those (flammable) records!

I can no longer muster up the energy to hate-watch Oh! Master. I'd rather watch Vincenzo drill holes into his enemies than witness Joo-in endure Bi-soo's emotional abuse.

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When Ep. 8 of Daebak started I thought I had clicked on the wrong show because of the Joseon scene 😅 I didn't even think about the flammability of the records but was wondering how they were so well preserved lol.

As for Oh! Master, I watched both episodes fast-forwarding through every scene where Bi-soo was being awful. Which meant I finished each episode in 20-25 minutes and it STILL felt painfully long 😣

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I flipped a table after I watched (with considerable help from the FF button) ep 11, then watched literally the last 5 mins of ep 14 (and when I say literally, I do mean literally) because...I hate myself? I don't know why. But I truly cannot believe how off the rails this drama has gone. Like, it self-destructed, became Sisyphus to start the timeline over, and self-destructed yet again because it hates itself and us that much. I have not wanted to throw things at my TV this much since Black Knight: the Man Who Guards Me (another drama I do not know why I finished). *rubs temples and takes deep breaths*

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(I'm talking about Oh! Master, if that wasn't immediately obvious, sorry 😂)

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I have been wondering why I watch this and the only explanation is it's a train wreck I can't look away from.

It might be the effect of watching Vincenzo, Mouse and Taxi Driver in tandem but I half find myself wishing Bi-soo would get stabbed by something sharp and put us all out of our misery.

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I completed Word of Honor this week as well and I thought it was a wonderful show despite the hiccups at the last episodes and an ambiguous ending. I didn't read the novel as I didn't wanted it to change my perspective of the show and from what I've read they done some major changes for the main characters and their relationship.

If you have time please check out AvenueX's videos on Youtube about WoH. She does a great job explaining all the little things that are missed out by non-Chinese fans and behind the scenes processes.

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About the ending, did you see the 'special' ending with an extra 3 minutes? I thought that removed the ambiguity.

Thanks for the rec about the YT channel. Will check it out!

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I did watch the special ending and I was happy with how it ended. But the end of episode 36 was just so terrible and random. I think they tried their best with the restrictions, even The Untamed had an open ending.

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OH MASTER (Ep 13-14): The show has turned unsalvageable. As mentioned weeks ago, the show’s theme has dramatically turned towards cruelty. This week, two of the meanest situational lines uttered by Bi-soo to Joo-in: “You’re so loud. Go outside and cry.” And “This is my masterpiece. I can’t let you ruin it.” His non-stop mean comments to make her hate him so she will not grieve when he passes is not a well-intentioned story. It is just cruel. And if she takes him back, where is her pride, trust and self-esteem?

DAEBAK REALTY (Ep. 7-8): The introduction of new types of ghosts and a new way to eliminate them keeps this show fresh and interesting. Hwa-Jung’s partial backstory is more horrifying than any ghost story. She really cannot be trusted. Now that the leads know they have a shared, tangled past will they fight each other or work together to find the truth?

BOSSAM (Ep 1-2): This may be the surprise gem of 2021. It completed production this week after first two episodes aired. Not really a fan of Joseon period stories. I set aside the era palace politics and confusing family relationships to just concentrate on Ba-woo and Soo-Kyung’s stories. The beginning opening stories were compelling and the actors performances very good, especially Ba-woo’s son. The fact that this new “family” is or will be considered “dead” by royal decree is the key on how the story will advance.

Variety:
HOUSE ON WHEELS 2: (Ep 5): Oh Na Ra is the guest. She is another actress with an intoxicating laugh. Another fun episode.

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I guess I'm not coming back to Oh My Ladylord... 😕

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Totally agree about Oh! Master...

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i'm a glutton for punishment, i can't put Oh! Master down... i hated his behavior and hurtful words... she's a glutton for punishment. oh, that's why i'm still watching... i'm like her....

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Youth of May: I am so glad we resolved that she wasn't her friend by episode 2. That paved the way for a nice romance, but I really am nervous about the tragedy sure to come.

Sell Your Haunted House: So now she knows he was there. Her anger was righteous. I loved it, he looked terrified as he should have. As for her business partner, she is very suspicious.

Law School: Sol A is still my favorite. As for the rest, so much drama.

Taxi driver: Dropped. Dis tew much.

Mine: I hope it is good.

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Sell Your Haunted House: I'm behind a few episodes but still enjoying.

Hyena: I love that they took a deep dive into what "gaslighting" means but wish they'd mentioned the movie Gaslight from where the term originates (to the best of my knowledge). My favorite word from another country that I use now and then is "schadenfreude". My apologies to any Germans on the spelling. With regard to the drama, I am glad they are working together now. I'm at the halfway point.

Bossam: Story is set up well and will see how it goes.

Looking forward to SIG's new show starting this week I believe.

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Youth of May I need more episodes to have a clear opinion.

Sell Your Haunted House The end of the episode 8 was hard to watch. But I'm happy they know now, like that they can work on it.

Law School This show is so weird. It's me or nobody reacted to Jeon Ye-Seul's bruises?

Taxi Driver Esom is after them now. I really wonder what will happen.

Undercover I watched the 2 first episodes and I'm curious. It's weird like both were "fighting" for their country but not on the same side.

ImitationThe hidden world of the idol life is interesting. But I'm not fan of the main actress's acting for now. Her haircut doesn't suit her (and her eyebrows are distracting). The ML was pretty transparent for the first episode.

One Spring Night @csmith was right, it's perfect for Spring :)

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I forgot Bossam, it looks promising.

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Law School: OMG, thank you. I was like she definitely has bruises right? I think either it was bad make up or since everyone knew she was being abused by her boyfriend, they didn't say anything.

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Honestly, I couldn't understand why Kang Sol A didn't say anything about it. There is a difference between a possessive boyfriend and a violent one. But Sol A thought that the boyfriend could be dangerous? Either she was trying to be careful about her words, but it's weird, either she didn't see it and it's weird too.

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I totally agree. I remember thinking that poor girl has bruises on her face. I just remembered though, I don't think Sol A saw them because when he was stepping on her toe, Sol A came and kicked him in the shin. I think maybe it may just have been bad makeup, otherwise it doesn't make sense. As you said, it is weird.

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I tore through it way too fast. Now, I am so sad that it didn't linger on it and make it last.

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I love so much their conversations, how Ji-Ho is quiet but very direct, their chemistry, the pharmacy and library squads, the bond between the sisters! So many things!

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True! I love how clear the OTP is about what they are thinking and feeling. It's so refreshing!
They both have so many healthy relationships around them. You just know they can make their relationship work, because they are thoughtful, functioning adults. And even the clingy ex-boyfriend and the vile dentist husband are so well acted that they don't get on my nerves like a lot of other bad guys. Even the pushy dads have more than two dimensions. It's just a rare gem!

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-Ongoing-
BOSSAM: STEAL THE FATE (2/16): Hoping this is the sageuk to save my sageuk year. So far so good, lots of fun and enough historical backstory to keep it interesting. I hope we get weekly hangouts... @stroopwafel, would that be asking too much? *offers up a bossam wrap*

THE LONG BALLAD (42/49): My current obsession. I've been watching behind the scene clips and listening to the OST all week while waiting for subs. I raved enough about it that my sister finally started it. Success!

-Completed-
VINCENZO (20/20): Disappointing finale but consistent in a way. Vincenzo never claimed to be a hero. If he had any pangs of conscience this was shown all too briefly in his conversation with the Buddhist monk, who said that Vincenzo is someone who "guards the door for others, though he will never achieve enlightenment"... um what kind of excuse is that monk-nim? Do you have any idea of the dirty work he's done? There are similar themes of fighting against corruption in CHIEF KIM and FIERY PRIEST but there was still faith in law and justice. The writer went very dark in this drama despite the comedy. I found it incredibly disturbing that a psycho who toys with his enemies like cat and mouse has a fanclub who is walking around imitating him. The positive message is that Geumga Plaza members learned to stand up for themselves, but imitating the Mafia is not cute, no matter what ITZY says. Sorry for taking this drama too seriously. I wasn't going to, but the ending forced me to. I don't take torture as a joke.

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I felt exactly the same way about the end of Vincenzo. If you want to go that dark, you can't suddenly flip back into comedy and kisses at the end and pretend everything is fine. I expected a lot more from the writer.

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Yep. There was something missing... FIERY PRIEST had a compelling ending because Hae-il wrestled with his past and confronted his demons, and only after everything was resolved "within his soul" did the show revert to comedy. I thought Song Joong-ki did well, but I didn't get the same sense of depth from his character.

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I haven't seen Fiery Priest, but I loved how Chief Kim explored the way that criminality can harm not just the victims but those committing the acts, and the way it suggested that people can change. I also wanted Cha Young to actually have an honest conversation with Vincenzo about his actions and his past - her silence felt like the willful blindness of women who assume that it's fine to date violent men because their violence will always stay compartmentalized and directed elsewhere. The fact that the show endorsed this made me cringe, and I wanted to scream at her to run as far away as possible as fast as possible.

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Yes yes yes!!! Exactly what I thought. “I just tortured a couple of people to death, thanks for the new passport. Love you. Bye!” #hug

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@wishfultoki,
If a weekly BOSSAM ‘hangout’ is not to be would you consider being a sort of local editor and just setting things up each week for new episodes. Just something simple in bold roman perhaps? Also from what I remember from the GRAND PRINCE hijack days it became helpful to have new numbered comments (if that is a correct description) because the replying could go off the rails sometimes and get confusing. Just a suggestion.

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Sure, I'll see what I can do. Otherwise that Hangout thread is going to be a mess if comments are posted at the same rate (over 140 for Week 1 alone).

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I’ll go further and ask @db-staff for the BOSSAM thread to be moved to recap. This show does not deserve to be buried and forgotten as an extra. There is so much to discuss about the story and the history.

This show is written by a woman and the PD seems to enjoy directing female centric dramas so they are perfect together.

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Yes yes yes! Please @db-staff! For Jung Il-woo!

Speaking of women-centric dramas, I'm hoping Lee Yo-won makes a cameo appearance in BOSSAM, since she was in BUAMDONG REVENGE CLUB (2017) with Myung Se-bin and Ra Mi-ran, who are both in this drama.

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That would be awesome.
Some of the ladies in the palace are missing like the queen and dowager queen so I hope they'll appear only as cameos. The majority of the time should be on our couple.

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I appreciated that the writer went all in on the idea that justice isn't real.

If it had decided to go the route of "faith in law and justice" it would've been way worse imo.

One of the best things about the show was how it didn't pull its punches when discussing corruption within "law and justice". For all the ridiculous elements in the show, the depiction of cops/prosecutors/politicians was spot on.

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Something kind of subtle that I thought was a great touch, was the prosecutor (who gets dropped on a car) acting so self-righteous during his party speech "don't take crap from chaebols" and again with Vincenzo "I'm the one who follows the law". Because I believe he believes it.

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Vincenzo - Torture porn? Really? And didn't we determine several episodes back that declaring yourself a god was a bad thing? I don't mind shows depicting violent protagonists as long as they honestly wrestle with the effects of that violence, but suggesting the world can be neatly divided into good and bad people and good and bad violence, and that "good" violence directed at "bad" people is totally cool is all kinds of problematic.

Bossam - Promising so far. It would be nice to have a good sageuk to watch again.

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Exactly my thoughts on both dramas.

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"good" violence directed at "bad" people is totally cool is all kinds of problematic

I've noticed a few Beanies were concurrently watching Vincenzo, Mouse, and/or Taxi Driver. How do these shows differ in their portrayal of murderous vigilantes? When does it feel like a show has crossed the line into glorifying violence?

Tagging Beanies who previously mentioned watching these shows: @sspat (CasualDramaFan)
@lordcobol
@maskros (Hye Mi)
@asianromance (ar)
@ladynightshade
@jingbee
@axis3

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I haven't watched Mouse or Taxi Driver (and don't plan to), but I'm not a fan of the "vigilantes are awesome" approach, or the argument that you can get rid of evil through more evil. Killing the bad people doesn't get eliminate "badness" - it just makes you bad too. I was hoping Vincenzo would actually wrestle with this idea in a meaningful way, but alas, no. On the other hand, one of the reasons I started watching Asian dramas in the first place is that some of them really do take a hard look the ramifications of violence and revenge. Two of my all-time favorite Korean shows are Lucifer and Six Flying Dragons, both of which feature main characters who do awful things, and both of which honestly explore the costs of those actions.

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Thanks for those recommendations. I only started watching K-dramas in 2017 so I it takes more effort to suss out essential classics.

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I've heard people say that Netflix is starting to warp K-dramas. Many more handguns than before, many more explosions, and much less cultural-specific nuance that would go over the heads of a foreign audience.

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It wouldn't surprise me. If so, it's unfortunate, as the reason I stopped watching most American shows is that I wanted less guns and mindless violence, not more.

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Vigilante justice murders is one of those things I like watching in fiction, but should be avoided in real life. Real life is a lot more complicated and the unintended consequences can ripple without end.

The vigilantism in Vincenzo isn't about protecting society. It's personal. It's for addressing wrongs done unto them that they felt could not be addressed by legal means. The corruption is more pervasive - it's in government, conglomerates, and law firms- so it almost feels like there is no option but to eradicate the threat themselves. It feels much like a surreal comic-book world. The violence is inflicted on the bad guys so it doesn't feel bad to me.

For Taxi Driver: it's a case-of-the-week format, with each case referencing a real life tragedy that hasn't been properly addressed by current processes and laws. The upholders of the law are a mix of good and bad. Vigilantes are there to plug up the gaps and cracks. The vigilantes aren't actually murdering the bad guys (unless I missed something), but caging them up in their personal prison. I find Taxi Driver pretty disturbing to watch because it spends an extended amount of time on the physical violence and mental pain inflicted on the victims, but I think that's the drama's point. The catharsis is in removing the threat from the victims' lives so they can breathe again.

Mouse: The police are, for the most part, optimistically good here. I wouldn't call the killings vigilante justice since the main character himself is a psychopath serial killer who tortured and killed innocent people and was just slaking his bloodthirst on a small handful of acceptable victims (other psychopaths). The drama seems to be on the side that as acceptable as certain murders are to the general public and can be helpful, it's just not right. Police are there for a reason; killing is not easy; and crossing that line changes you.

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Thank you for that thoughtful comparison, @asianromance! I can imagine the catharsis for Korean audiences from watching a series like Taxi Driver. However, I'm uncertain if I have the stomach to watch it because of the real suffering behind these fictionalizations. Last week, I clicked on a Beanie's link to a wiki article about one of the cases and it haunted me for days. Taxi Driver is like a brutal version of fan fiction that corrects or expands a drama or film.

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I don't watch Mouse or Vincenzo so really can't say anything about those two. I must say I agree with ar. Vigilantes is something I dare not speak my honest mind about; all I can say is that watching the victims suffer makes me feel angry and helpless, and oftentimes even angrier at my helplessness, and watching these dramas is one of the ways for me to feel that somehow out there karma would get to the offenders, like a fictional outlet for my real anger and frustration, but I am aware that in real life this should not become the norm; the consequences of such an approach would be too complicated and too much.

I personally feel that Taxi Driver will try to address this somewhere down the line, hence the potentially prominent role of Esom.

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It's never ok to take the law into yr own hands.
Vincenzo's excuse is that evil is all pervasive, especially through the prosecution. There's no hope of justice if you are an ordinary person.
Mouse: jury is still out IMO. The violence is chilling and something I'd try to avoid. In this instance it's been the tangled mystery that'skept me watching. So far it's impossible to know what's really happened because our witnesses are so unreliable.
Taxi Driver: I've had to stop because I currently don't have easy access to it. I'd still argue the above. All we've got is the justice system no matter how flawed. Nothing else.

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Yeah! I thought they were going to explore the consequences of violence through his nightmares but then he just kind of... dreamed of his mum instead.
Wasted opportunities!!

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Yeah, it felt like half way through the drama they shifted from Vincenzo wrestling with his demons and Cha Young asking hard questions to "Screw it, let's all embrace our inner sociopath and see how bloody things can get." Not my favorite artistic choice.

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Bossam: Steal the Fate: 7.0 Wikipedia says the king (Gwanghae) had one daughter and her name isn't even known. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for this show to explain why not.

Law School: 9.0 Anyone who bothers to keep track will be able to figure it out before the final week -- the killer will be whoever hasn't been a suspect up till then.

Taxi Driver: 8.9 Good music...

Vincenzo: 9.8 Between this show and Taxi Driver, is this the year when kdramaland loses patience with the old "make them pay their debt to society by going to prison" routine?

Sell Your Haunted House: 7.5

Undercover: Dropped. The aftertaste from the first week was too bitter.

So I Married an Anti-Fan: 6.0 Would it be better or worse if I didn't keep falling asleep in the middle of it?

Youth of May: 9.0 Thank goodness the new shows aren't all lemons.

Dark Hole: 2.6 Normally that score would mean I only made it thru 26 minutes of day 1, but this time it refers to day 2. I got tired of hallucination scenes. Also, worst show title since Manhole.

Let's just say that Song Joong-Ki has redeemed himself for Arsedal; Kim Ok-Vin not so much.

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Would it be better or worse if I didn't keep falling asleep in the middle of it?

You too? Watching it makes my eyelids feel heavy. It's my drama Sleepy Time tea. I saw the movie and hoped the So I Married an Anti-Fan serialization would be a fun, dumb show to watch.

Admittedly, I was riveted/terrified during the driving scene from Ep. 3 because driving without my license was a recurring nightmare for years, since 3rd grade. The scene ended up being cringey in ways I never imagined.

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I envy @wishfultoki who is still basking in the glory that is THE LONG BALLAD. Somehow I’ve finished it and am going through what is the worst case of withdrawal since 18 AGAIN for Haodu and Leyan. I’ve got a principle which is never to watch BTS clips or get to know the actors playing the characters because I want to remain in the fantasy world of the drama that I like for as long as possible, but I’ve been craving Haoyan so bad that I’ve started to watch extracted clips from Liu Yuning’s live streaming (Help!! :(( )

TAXI DRIVER and DAEBAK REALTY continue to be my weekly Kdrama cracks.

BOSSAM is really good and I’m in love. I love that it’s got some poetic quality about it. Yuri is also such a nice surprise. I didn’t like her in her earlier works but she’s doing so well here as the princess.

YOUTH OF MAY on the other hand didn’t convince me, which is really sad because I started it for Do Hyun and really want to stick around for him.

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I have that rule too but I've broken it for Liu Yuning! 😂 I've scoured YouTube for his songs and and am catching up on the C-variety show OUR SONG (recommended by the way, and it has subs).

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What have you done to me Toki? I've been scouring YouTube for his songs and covers like you too and now I'm officially in LYN's hell :((

The last time I fell so hard for a singer/ band was back when I was in 7th grade and it was like 20 years ago :(( LYN has gained a new fan in me! Never thought I'd be crushing so hard on an artist again after all these years ahhh.

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😂😂😂
I'm glad it's not just me going through this.
When I open YouTube all I get are recommendations of Liu Yuning videos. 😂
I try not to place actors on pedestals and usually just follow their dramas ... but what else can I do when this guy also sings well? Just accept the fangirling. It will help cope with THE LONG BALLAD withdrawal. 🤣
I'm sure he's gained many international fans.

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You know what? His latest live streaming today has garnered 31 million live viewers.
How is that even possible? But then I'm listening to the song he covered in his live streaming today and honestly why not? He seems to have a great sense of humour too. This is too much for my heart!! Why did I click on THE LONG BALLAD in the first place omg? :((

I'm not sure if you've watched it but here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAvT66KzHtI
(the last part is hilarious!)

I've listened to his cover of "Cry on my shoulder" too. I fell hard at that and cannot pick myself back up now :((

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Sell Your Haunted House: My favorite show of the bunch. Halfway in and show logic and world building is quite solid except one minor squabble – Why Ji-ah has not looked into her mother’s case file /police report in last twenty years?
Hwa-jung is bit of a mystery. She has hidden few things from Ji-ah but she was quite upfront about her past. I don’t think she has ill intentions though; she is stuck with Ji-ah from past 1-2 decades.
Did I mention how much I like Jung Na-ra in this show? She is the best.
Law School : Is criminal record/behavior pre-requisite to attend this law college? So far, we have a juvenile delinquent, a Stalker, a thief and a plagiarist.
The human trash is keep getting worse as now we know that he was involved in organ trafficking.
Still watching the show for Joo-Hwi, Sol A and Yangratis. They are the best part of the show.
Taxi Driver: I am not enjoying the show because amount of violence and torture being portrayed. It’s not that the actors are doing bad job but it’s quite hard to watch.
Dark Hole : Chaotic, keep your brain away train wreck.
Bossam: First two episodes were good but I am still on the fence as I am not fan of serious sageuks.

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Navillera - finished but still missing it and got a friend to watch it and she doesn't watch kdramas! And she is loving it - yeah!
Vincenzo - finished and thought it ended well by reaffirming that yes he is a bad guy and isn't going to change any time soon. But I loved all the supporting cast and how they had so much fun.
Sell Your Haunted House - watching and enjoying it for all the reasons everyone else wrote. Especially loving the fact that in the latest episode she has started wearing white and grey, but he was in all black in that last scene. hmmm
Taxi Driver - what can I say I love this show - the music is good and I'm enjoying how they take revenge for the innocent. It is going to be interesting when our prosecutor finally finds out what they are doing. Will she join them or punish them? Mostly I love all the roles our ML takes on in each case.
Dark Hole - it's OCN - so I can't NOT watch it. I like it and seeing how they put our two leads and the little girl together again. Someone on Viki called it the "Zombid Virus" which made me laugh.
Octogenarians and the 90s - this is my happy crack pill for now. I LOVE all the stories of our elders and our leads are amazing. The writing is just really nice and I keep binging every day into the night.

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Well done on the k-drama conversion!! I'll be curious to hear more about Dark Hole as you continue it...I'm not sure yet if I should pick it up, so I may be checking your pulse from time to time. :-)

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I'll let you know Lakes. So far it's typical OCN and creepy all over the place. But I'll see what happens in episode 4.

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Vincenzo: It had its flaws, but loved it so much. The ending was solid too, even though my heart sank a bit at the reminder that Vincenzo was mafia through and through. He was never going to come back as a normal guy, and he really shouldn't. I want to thank the writer, director (a rare female director!!), actors, and staff for putting together such a fun and entertaining drama chock full of action and hilarity with a liberal dash of darkness. They've created such vibrant characters. The way the secondary characters got their moments in the spotlight and the attention to detail really make me feel the drama was handled with a lot of love and care.

Taxi Driver(up to ep 6): Just in it for disguises, the amazing car stunts, beating down the bad guys, and Lee Je hoon's handsomeness. But otherwise, this drama doesn't draw me in with the writing or characters.

Sell Your Haunted House: Getting better with each episode. Now I'm obsessed. At the start of the series, we didn't get to know much about the ghosts, but with each episode, like Ji-ah, we get more involved in the tragedies of the ghosts and in Ji-ah+In-beom's past mystery.

Mouse: It's been a bit nuts, but the drama knows how to deliver the goosebumps even when you know what's going to happen. It's been giving government conspiracy vibes for awhile, and I'm glad we're looking into it. So sad to think of Bareum and Yohan being lab rats since birth.

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Mouse: Since Vincenzo is over I decided to pick this show back up. I was impressed with Mouse up until the brain transplant twist. But since then this show has gotten messy. I find some characters annoying and the romance feels forced. Also, the breaks don't really help because I forget the details and character names. I watched the spin-off episodes and felt that they could've been incorporated into the main show itself since there are 20 episodes. I'll give Lee Seung-gi some kudos for his role though. He did a good job early on with masking himself but letting hints of his true nature peek through.

Taxi Driver: This show needs more Esom! Hoping that going forward she has more to do besides left looking clueless.

Sell Your Haunted House: The chemistry between the characters is great!

I needed to watch something more light-hearted to offset the constant doom and despair, so I decided to rewatch the early Running Man episodes. I used to occasionally watch RM waaaay back when I first started kdramas and seeing baby Joong-ki makes me so happy.

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Four months into 2021 have earned 3 beans: RUN ON, BEOND EVIL, and NAVILLERA. All were great and highly recommended.

Now I feel my ‘season’ is really beginning.
Suddenly I am live watching three dramas: DARK HOLE, BOSSAM and YOUTH OF MAY. MOVE TO HEAVEN and RACKET BOYS will soon be here. Unfortunately SIG’s DOOM AT YOUR SERVICE may be a non start. I am not sure yet.
A couple thoughts on the ‘kids’ in two of the dramas I am watching:
1. In BOSSAM we have little Cha-dol (Kong Dong-ha). (What a scene stealer, lol.) He is living kind of rough with father Ba-woo (Jung Il-woo) but he is loved. He is still a kid that yearns for a mom. I am hoping this boy is spared tragedy.
2. In YOUTH OF MAY we have Myung-soo (Jo Yi-hyun) the sweet little brother of Myeong-hee (Go Min-si). He wants to be a runner. Myeong-hee is his protection. The little guy earns a spot at a training camp and he isn’t there 5 minutes before the bullying started. I can’t tell you how that pi**ed me off.
One of the kdrama tropes that we have all seen many times is that the trauma of youth plays out in adulthood.

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Sell Your Haunted House (Ep 7&8) - Now that Ji-ah knew about In-bum's identity, it'll be interesting to see how they will work together in search for the truth. I'm also curious about the secrets that Hwa-jung is hiding from Ji-ah....

Mouse (Ep 16&17) - My hunch is correct. Ba-reum & Yo-han are definitely subjects for an elaborate genetic experiment. Pretty sure certain politician and Drs are involved.

Taxi Driver (Ep 9&10) - I'm glad that the vigilantes still hold on to their believes to punish and not to kill (with intention) the villains here. There's a fine line between good & bad when it comes to vigilante justice. It's about time that Hana is finally closing in on Do-Ki.

Vincenzo (Ep 20) - The finale seem a bit out of sorts for me....probably due to the sudden level of violence in this one episode out of the whole series. I do appreciate that the writer keeps Vincenzo as who he is and not make him turn over a new leaf. There are many flaws but overall a fun series to watch....just don't think too much about the plots :P

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SELL YOUR HAUNTED HOUSE is simply our favorite show. It is fun and Jang Na-ra continues to shine. At the half-way point the longer plotlines have come together, making the story fully coherent, as opposed to the near incoherence of OH MASTER.

BOSSAM is another another fun show. This is encouraging- has K-dramaland learned the value of fun again?

My wife discovered the biographical Sageuk GODDESS OF FIRE, which tells the story of Baek Pa-sun, the legendary ceramic artist/potter who was captured during the Imjin War and taken to Japan where there is a shrine to her in the city of Arita (hence the title- she is arguably now one of Japan’s 99,000 gods, albeit a very minor one if she can be so described). The drama does not portray her life after being captured and apparently took a lot of artistic license with the story- which is why it was probably wise to give the main character a different name in the drama. She and the other ceramic artists who were captured and taken to Japan had a huge impact on ceramics in Japan, which is why the Japanese often describe the Imjin War of the 1590s as The Pottery War- it was the only thing that Japan got out of their costly but destructive invasion of Korea- which had been intended as but a first step in a planned invasion of China. It is a shame that the drama did not show what happened in Japan but that probably would have been a costly undertaking.

My wife continues to watch Chinese Costume Dramas. THE LONG BALLAD is set in the early Tang dynasty. Given that the actual Tang ruling family were partly Turkish and continued to maintain ties with turkic people the casting of Dilmurat Dilraba as the female lead was particularly apt. She is doing a great job.

She also continued to enjoy MY HEROIC HUSBAND. It has been a fun drama.

Having enjoyed the original Chinese movie I had looked forward to watching SO I MARRIED THE ANTI-FAN. So far I like what I see. It is watchable and entertaining although it will probably not be my favorite show of the year.

The daily drama BE MY DREAM FAMILY is quite good, as good as a decent weekender. This is fortunate as the weekender REVOLUTIONARY SISTERS continues to struggle, desperately trying to make up for its initial mistakes. I find myself actually unable to wait until evening for DREAM FAMILY and watch each new episode at lunchtime.

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I usually keep Dream Family for the time just before the sleep (to fall asleep with a smile)... but... sometimes I don't manage the wait either 😆

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Tried watching LAW School. The show is interesting, but the timelines are so damn confusing. Will finish watching it someday i believe.

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Sell your haunted house and Taxi Driver are the shows I like best at the moment and Law school has some very good moments, too. I quite like Undercover after the first 2 episodes.
Seriously behind with Vincenzo and try not to read the latest comments yet to avoid spoiling the fun.
I am ready to jump into Bossam, it sounds good. Youth of May - well, I am not keen on angst and tears, but I really like watching LDH. Maybe I will take a peek.
Dropped Oh Master into the Dark Hole. The latter one after watching 15 minutes - a record of some sort! Could not stop yawning.

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Dropped Oh Master into the Dark Hole.

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Currently watching:

1. Sell Your Haunted House: Love this one. It's heart-warming in a way; the story is coherent, the characters reasonable, the world building logical and consistent; and some stories are touching. With some humor, excellent acting from all actors this show is a little, perhaps a bit underrated, gem.

2. Mary Stayed Out All Night: I want just to watch what Mugy likes so much, and it didn't really disappoint. It is a very weird show in all the right ways. It was so cheesy to the point it can be considered a horror show. The leads are cute, especially Moon Guen-young. The ML also possesses some unique charisma (even when you couldn't really figure out whether he was a boy or a girl upon the first glance.) It was so trooper it was fun to watch. I'm quite liking this one. Now, I am at ep3.

3. Bossam: I try to avoid sageuks, but I want to watch this one, so I can talk to Toki. I didn't hate the first ep as much as I thought, but it remains to be seen how long it will keep me interested.

Variety shows:

1. 2D1N: BB is love, period.

2. House on Wheels 2: I still didn't manage to watch ep.2. I'll save this one for the most perfect days to watch it: When I feel terribly tired and need some mental boost.

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But I also have to add that I didn't really like the ML in ep3. He threw his future away because of his so-called 'friends' who didn't really care for him (that much.) I was so pissed I even wanted the FL to end up with SL at some point.

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Sure he is loyal, but my opinion is that you should be loyal to people who deserve it and being loyal doesn't have only one way. By being loyal, it doesn't mean he has to stick with them as a band forever; they can always be loyal to each other even each one of them does their own job. Again, I don't think he should stick to his 'friends.' When he moved to a new home, they were not there to help. They weren't really there when he needed them, but he was always there when they needed him. He even turned down many good opportunities because of these people. Good friends don't drag down their friend.

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But I, too, like loyal people.

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“ It was so cheesy to the point it can be considered a horror show”

What a comment! I’ll put it on my “When in desperate need of cheese” list.

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Yes!, but I’m not sure my definition of ‘cheesy’ is the same as yours, but please try. The first 1.29 minute my jaw dropped. It became cheesy after that.

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It should also go in your "Might have the most tropes" list.

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Dear Flyingtool,

I feel obliged to report to you that at the end of ep4 I had to stop watching Mary because the level of absurdity was too much for my anxiety level to tolerate. I almost kicked the FL if she was anywhere near me, after I kicked everyone else in that show ofc.

You can choose to go with Mugy’s suggestion or mine. For me, I almost hated it with the fire of 999 suns (now I’m hating it at 880 suns level.) Hating it with the fire of a thousand suns is LT’s phrase so I tried to make mine a bit different.

Thank you.

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I will put it on the endosolistration list.

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I had to actually Google this word and be directed right back to @sicarius’s post: So it means to throw some drama into the sun as it’s the worst fate a drama can get. This one definitely goes to that list for me, but I’ll be kind enough to take the ML out of it for Mugy to be her keepsake.

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*dies laughing because someone finally googled endosolistration AND was redirected back to me* *yes, yes neologism achievement: unlocked*

Go forth and use it in the wild Oh Mmmm! Please! I need it to come into casual-outsider use!

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House on Wheels is one of those shows that you keep handy for those times when you simply want to savor life. It is like being on vacation for a short time.

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AbSolUtELy!

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@mmmm We can still talk even if you don't watch BOSSAM.😄 We can talk about MARY STAYED OUT ALL NIGHT. I actually enjoyed parts of it but I struggled with the second half. The real horror story are the two dads.

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😳 Are you saying that you struggled with the second half of Mae-ri? Oofff.. I thought I was struggling with the first half already! Sighs.. the dads are the most terrible, terrible people. I don’t want to know what there is in the second half now..

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Don't believe her! She's just mad that I haven't started Full House Take 2. (It really would be a better drama if they edited out the dads, one of whom is suuuuper creepy.)

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Haha! alright! But you should also fulfill your end of the agreement. :) Perhaps this summer?

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I'm glad you haven't forgotten our agreement. 😜

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So happy I have a new recruit! It's a very wacky/weird drama and I love it.

I'm also watching Bossam right now.

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We are happy that you're happy. Tbh, 'Bossam' always remind of me the word 'bosom' which isn't quite similar; and whenever I read it as 'bossam' I'm always hungry.

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*pats head* Mugy the show is so strange. You are my lovely polar-opposite, but I don't think I want to torture myself any longer so I stopped at ep.4.

We might see each other in Bossam's OTs, the possibility of which depends on how much the show engages me.

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After a bit of a dry spell - I am really not in the mood or space for the dark and heavy - I am (when the subs come out) live watching 5 shows:
So I married an anti-fan: This is fun, and light, and I spend a lot of time pondering the discussion the leads had when at college irl when they wondered if they'd ever work together (does that argue that it's not holding my complete attention?)
Bossam Yes! I am a Sageuk fan and this one is definitely pulling me in so far. Thank you for the rain!
Haunted House I am really enjoying this and cannot add to the comments so far.
The Long Ballad weirdly addictive. It was the football match in episode 1 that just kept me wriggling on the hook. I just love strong female leads. And then of the course the absolutely hysterical kiss scene for the OTP where they blurred the kiss out and showed us parrots pecking. Was anyone else screeching "show me the parrots!" when the second leads started getting close?
The Imperial Coroner Light-weight, fast-paced, well-plotted.
Also, I have to add that I am so grateful to you all who are still watching Oh my Master and confirming that I really do not need to go back to this. Thank you.

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THE LONG BALLAD - I enjoyed that football match (cuju) in the beginning. The K-version was done in HWARANG.
I did a side by side comparison ( on my wall).
I love this era.
Leo Wu must have had a no kissing contract lol.

I love the 2nd couple but this show helped me clean my room when I need some background noise with pretty people.

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Good thing I wasn't really looking forward to a kiss because that fade out to show parrots kissing instead was hilarious. 😂 Or maybe there was a kiss and it was cut? It's weird that the drama is 49 episodes instead of 50.

Minor secondary characters got a kiss though pfffft

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I don’t think either of the main couples had a real kiss. Liu Yuning and Lusi also paused for a significant amount of time too before the scene faded out, so I don’t think there was a kiss and it was cut. It’s kind of weird they have to do it like that, but even if there’s no kiss, if a couple has strong chemistry they can still make the romance believable. I find Haoyan believable so I didn’t care about the kiss. Watching them holding hands and staring into each other eyes is enough to give me butterflies haha.

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Yes, for me it's perfect without the kiss, and if actors don't want to kiss I totally respect that. My sister is gonna kill me though. I promised her a drama full of adventure and romance and she likes a good kiss scene. 🤣

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Technically she can't. There is indeed a kiss scene between two birds. Unless you promised her there would be two human beings kissing. You didn't, did you? 🤣

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My thanks to the OH MASTER watchers as well.

For those wondering about the authenticity of football (soccer in the US) being played in THE LONG BALLAD: This actually was a very popular game in Tang Dynasty China. The ball was not inflated with air but instead was filled with feathers.

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Joining in the chorus asking for someway to discuss Bossam: Steal the Fate with other Beanies. Already in the hangout I've learned about the plight of widows in Korean history, a wrapped food association, interesting roots music in the OT (pansori) and the curious absence of the practice of bossam in the plots of previous sageuks. Please, please??
Sell Your Haunted House continues to develop nicely and I agree that the pacing and character arcs are exceptionally well done. Already half finished - oh no.
SIGNAL!!! I finally changed my viewing lens to the "magical realism" setting and now I am fully into this show. I knew the amount of Beanie-love for Signal could not be misplaced. The acting, writing, set design and cinematography are all superb.
Still enjoying the sheer silliness of 2D1N and jotting down the names of places I want to visit if I ever win the lottery and can afford a trip to South Korea.

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Vincenzo: good-bye, my darlings! What a lovely, absurd, wacky and beautifully fun ride it was! And even more wonderful watching it with fellow members of the Oh, My Consigliere fan club.

Sell Your Haunted House: proof that a simple story well-told is worth 100 others hogtied by bells, whistles and tropes (yeah, Oh! Master, I'm looking directly at you). Jang Nara is slaying, and not just the ghosts. Top notch so far, and long may it continue.

So I Married the Anti-Fan: trash of the first order, and I love my little guilty pleasure.

You Are My Hero: my first ever cdrama, which I basically inhaled. Gah! So cute! I want to be as cool as Jiejie when I grow up.

I plan on starting Mine this weekend as well, and probably will give another cdrama a spin, too. Happy watching, Beanies!

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I like the "trash of the first order" description. We all need some of that sometimes.

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You are my hero is 💕
(I only didn't like the last kidnapping arch, expected cleverer behaviour from our leads)

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'Revolutionary Sisters' is still my guilty pleasure. Not that its anything amazing, just that it doesn't actively *disappoint* as so many supposedly prestige series have this year.
For rewatch fare I went back to a little noticed JTBC drama from last year 'More Than Friend'. After enduring two episodes of character building and story setup the series settles into spending time with the characters, gently fleshing-out their personalities, seeing how they interact. It really was one of my favorite dramas of last year.

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Dark Hole: I love Lee Jun-hyuk, but this ain’t it. Dramaland, please give him the leading man roles his talent deserves, not this hot garbage.

Imitation: I expected this to be an awkward, cringey mess and was pleasantly surprised that it wasn’t. Of course, that might change in the coming weeks. I am glad to see that they’re covering some of the darker aspects of the industry. Now its just a matter of how deep they will go. However, I still want this to be a good, guilty-pleasure watch. I think this is the only time one could justify casting mostly idol-actors - the characters are idols and who better to portray them than real-life idols?

Law School: Still ridiculous but I’ve become strangely attached to our main group of students. Some of them are assholes and at least one a murderer, but I can’t deny they make one interesting group of friends. Oh, and fuck Ye-seul’s boyfriend. I hope he stays dead, even though he deserved a more painful death than he got.

Mouse: Yo-han deserves an apology. Everything about his life just seems unfair. I cannot pretend to care anymore about the actual “plot” at this point.

Oh! Master: This show is very actively the worst and I hate myself for wasting hours of my life on it. 100% rooting for Joo-in to leave Bi-soo and his emotional abuse, but apparently this show is supposed to be something called a “romantic comedy”, and leaving abusive partners is not allowed in those unless its a SML.

Sell Your Haunted House: Watched only for Jang Nara, ended up loving the other characters and world-building as well. That being said, it’s about time we moved on to the main mysteries and away from the serialized case of the week.

Youth of May: The show is absolutely gorgeous and the aesthetics are easily my favourite of the currently airing shows. Lee Do-hyun and Go Min-shi have the sort of chemistry that leaves me mesmerized and I cannot wait to see more of their dates. I am dreading when real-life history has to break them apart.

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Vincenzo: I will miss this one for a long time to come. The show wasn’t perfect by any means, but the self-aware absurdity and dark humour was always a fun ride. Farewell, my favourite mafia corn salad.

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Bossam: Pure laziness is the only reason why I haven’t started yet.

Doom In Your Service: One Day, Seo In-guk Entered my Life and Changed it Forever. Bring it on, you overly long title. Nothing can make me not anticipate this.

Mine: Lee Bo-young and Kim Seo-hyung. That’s it, that’s all the reason I need.

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i'm way behind on most dramas, hopefully will catch up soon on Mouse and Beyond Evil...but I did managed to catch the last ep of Vincenzo, and also started Bossam, which i found surprisingly interesting...until next time, take care everyone!

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Vincenzo: 7.5/10 for the series. I went from really enjoying it, to liking it, to thinking it was dragging things, to enjoying how it ended. A fun show throughout that I’d recommend for a breezy watch with some admittedly darker moments sprinkled throughout.

So I Married an Anti-fan: It’s still fairly stock standard. I was hoping for a bit more depth for our main characters by this week. Some flashbacks to show why they are why they are, or have them find out something about each other that changed their thinking. But it was just generic hijinks. I’m still watching, so it hasn’t offended my sensibilities at least :D

Oh! Master: Speaking of...what a waste of Lee Min-ki and Nana. They have good chemistry, but it’s bogged down by pointless drama. I love me some good melo, or drama that’s well earned. This is just spining the wheel and I’m actively fast forwarding parts now. The junior writer and his love interest are just skipped over entirely in my viewing as it’s just exposition and annoying cutesy pouting. Let’s hope both leads choose better projects next time...

Daebak Realty: I find myself raving about this show every week. The ghost of the week is starting to get a little meh, but it’s basically just background as they’re moving into the main conflicts at this point.

Bossam: Fun show! I’m pretty charmed with our ML, his son, and the FL. Let’s hope it’s not all palace intrigue past a certain point. I wasn’t expecting much from this one initially so maybe that’s why I’m so pleasantly surprised the chemistry is clicking.

Youth in May: More! The leads have crackling chemistry, which is probably why the incoming tragedy is gonna hit real hard. Ever since 18 Again and Sweet Home I’ve been a big fan of Lee Do-Hyun and he’s doing a good job here.

Law School: I like most of our cast, and it’s got a decent overall mystery, but it’s not one I eagerly look forward to every week. Still solid though.

Mouse: More crazy each week. Will be pretty soul crushing when Bong Yi finds out about Ba Reum’s true identity. This train is heading to it’s inevitable destination...and it’s gonna be messy.

Dark Hole: Dropped for now. First 2 episodes didn’t grip me but I may come back to it if others start talking about it in a positive light.

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MOUSE - I thought this week’s pair of episodes were really good (I was going to have to wait till next week but I snuck in episode 17). It was good to see some of the things where the groundwork was laid way way back come through. I was surprised to learn that Daniel Lee was separate to the ongoing government(?) conspiracy so I’m interested to see where that goes. And what will Moo Chi do now he knows? Will he actually believe it?

That’s really all I had time to watch this week, looking forward on catching up to Sell Your Haunted House soon.

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Start SYHH beffels! It’s pretty good!

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I’ve been watching it! I only have catch up on the latest episodes - it’s a good, fun show so far!

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My Father is Strange! Miyeong is the unluckiest having 2 people she dislikes being instantly part of her family.

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My Ajusshi

Watching it with my sister (she is in Peru), and my therapist (she is in Venezuela)... for them it is the first time.
For me:
This is the third time I watch it. The first time when it was airing. Second time immediately after, and now, more than a year (or two?🙄) later.
Oh my, oh my, oh my gosh, what a great show!!!!!!
You see, this is the difference between a masterpiece and many others (don't want to offend) but a masterpiece is something you can watch or read on and on again, and you will always find a reason why to watch it or read it. Some amazing lines, intelligent narrative or editing, very, very interesting and clever dialogs, the palette, the music, the sounds, the wording, everything! You just don't want it to end, because there is no waste.
And the feels!!! Oh my, the feels are really really strong.
My Ajusshi makes me feel like I am reading a masterpiece, an author such as Jane Austen or George Eliot... what they did it is there to savour it and savour it with pleasure, leaving you crying over why you are not able to write like that too 😂😂😂😂
But anyways... I am happy, even though it will break my heart again. I am now on ep. 4... So... It will hit me more.

It is no wonder to say both my therapist and my sister are also crazy about it now. We are watching 1 episode everyday, except for the weekends.

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If Austen were alive today, she would be crazy for My Ajusshi too. Next up for your watch group..., Misaeng?

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The number of K-drama bloggers and podcasters who *haven't* watched My Mister/Ajusshi is quite amazing. Has anyone on the 'Dramas Over Flowers' podcast watched the show? Doesn't everyone saying how amazing it is make you curious?

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This week was a good one, finally finished some shows that were on hold for a while.

Word of Honor (cdrama): Ah! I can't believe its finally over. I started watching this back in March but decided to wait for it to finish as it was lagging behind on Youtube for international audience. I loved this show, the level of details, effort and hard-work done by the entire crew from the actors, director, scriptwriter, costume designer is commendable. Despite having budget and censorship problems they managed to create a show that is wonderful, enjoyable and one that touches your heart. The relationship between the two male leads was beautifully portrayed and the chemistry between the actors playing them is amazing. Often we see couples that are supposedly in love but fails to convey that, here the main couple- Zhou Zishu and Wen Kexing leaves no doubt that they are very much in love each other despite there being no verbal confirmation. The last few episodes were rushed and you could easily see that they were under budget constraints. WoH was truly a dark horse that surprised even the people working on it. I wish the best for both the actors and hope they will have good projects in the future.

Detective L (cdrama): This was another cdrama that was on hold. Its a Sherlock Holmes-inspired drama set in 1930s Shanghai. The ML is the detective that works with the police and FL is the first female cop in their department. Both of them are smart, capable and respect each other. The sets and costumes are beautiful and the acting is good. The cases while not the best are carefully crafted. Its also a short drama with only 24 episodes, so if someone wants to give it a shot its worth your time.

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Sell Your Haunted House: TBH I didn't really had high expectation from this show. I just thought it would be good for casual watching but I was surprised by how much I am enjoying it. I love the FL and her ability to recognize her mistakes and how she tries to correct them. I wasn't that invested in the ML in the initial episodes but I have warmed up to him and his obvious crush on the FL. This show does a good mixture on keeping the central story going while giving us engaging 'ghost-of-the-episode' stories. Now that it has crossed halfway mark I expect there will be more focus on their past and what actually happened on that day.

The Guest: I have been SLOWLY going through this drama. The contrast between this and Haunted House is too much. This drama is very intense and gory to be binge-watched. I am watching like 1 or 2 episode every week. I would probably finish this next week. If you are a fan of horror genre you should definitely watch this drama.

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Sell Your Haunted House - As always, Jang Na-ra doing a great job here. I'm only up to episode 7, so regarding Hwa-Jung, what exactly does she know and when did she know it?

Vincenzo - I'm going to miss our consigliere and the entire Geumga gang! Song Joong-ki was just fantastic in this role.

Undercover - The lies and cover-ups are everywhere!

Mine - The main female leads are fantastic. The new tutor is creepy and potentially dangerous. You can already tell it's going to be quite the ride.

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With only two more episodes to go of my breakfast re-watch of W, I am happy to say it isn't as messed up the second time around. Yes, there are some obvious flaws to the story telling but I'm not quite as bothered by it as I was on my first watch. But when it rains, it pours, and episode 15 will be tough to swallow nevertheless.

I absolutely love DAEBAK REALTY, what a gem this show is turning out to be. Jung Yong-hwa isn't the best actor, but In-bum fits him so well I'm more than happy to look past that. Jang Nara is just gold.

Also, Viki released REPLY 1994 in my region a couple of weeks ago and halfway through, I'm fawning over both Trash and Chil-bong. As I've traversed this forum for a couple of years, I'm well aware who the husband isn't, but I don't know if it'll lessen the pain. My heart already hurts. 😭

Together with my husband, we binged SHADOW AND BONE on Netflix and liked it. I'd really like to get my hands on the books to discover how it ends but I'm partial to the villain (but mostly Ben Barnes) and first person narrative isn't my preference. Has anybody gotten around to reading the novels?

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I've read the books years ago (back when I didn't spend all my free time on kdrama 😂). They actually merge two book series by the same author. The main plot certainly is based on the Grisha series but the merge of the two series certainly allow lots of possibility in expanding the storyline beyond the books. I think that was a very smart move.

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Yes, I thought that was an excellent move as well although I think the process of introducing the bulk of characters could have been more delicately handled.

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Vincenzo: I rewatched some of my favorite scenes to offset my withdrawal syndrome. Reading clowning tweets, watching bts footages, and listing to the OSTs also helped. I finally made peace with the ending and now focused on appreciating the show's entertainment values. I think I'll have a hard time finding a new K-drama that I like because this show has set the bar too high <3.

Imperial Coroner: I switched to C-dramas to find a new vibe. This show is not the best out there, but it's surprising decent and easy to follow. The writing makes sense and the plot is well-layered.

Fiery Priest: I started this show out of my love for the writer. However, I'm on ep 2 and can't feel the characters or the story. I'll give it 2 more eps to see if I'll continue watching. Side note, I know Kim Nam Gil is well known for his acting, but for some reasons, I can't feel his acting. This is the third drama I've seen him in (Queen Seondeok, Live Up to Your Name, Fiery Priest) and I haven't liked any of his roles. Hopefully I'll change my mind in the next 2 eps.

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Fiery Priest took awhile to get into for me. Took me several tries. The first 4 weeks could have been condensed in half and it didn't lean as much into the absurd as it needed to and the male lead was angry all the time. Once you get over that part (maybe you can speed watch it) and the drama gets more playful, it's a fun watch.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'm speeding through the first 8 eps haha.

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Try watching Imitation too. Since its based off a idol-romnace webtoon (which I'm not a fan of) I didn't expect much from it, but the pilot episode was surprisingly not bad, they even added a little bit of mystery and suspense too

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First time posting on this thread after I registered!

BOSSAM - this makes my sageuk-loving heart very happy.
YOUTH OF MAY - I like retro too, so bring it on! Getting ready for a heartbreak too...

Korean dramas inspire me to compose music, so I have high hopes for these two dramas.

Also watching:
NAVILLERA - just watched Episode 1 and I am all in. I like stories about finding one's calling in middle or old age.

MONEY FLOWER - watching this for the 2nd time and still blown away. Jang Hyuk is killing it as usual, and the rest of the cast is outstanding as well. The instrumental pieces of the soundtrack are the best. I made an arrangement for solo piano of one of my favorites, Death Star.

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I just finished watching the latest episode 16 of the apparently never-ending drama 'Revolutionary Sisters' and I think it nudged me from 'guilty pleasure' to just plain 'pleasure'. Its 100% pure unadulterated soap opera without ambitions or pretensions.

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Loving The Long Ballad. The main leads chemistry is sizzling. I didn't like the parrot scene lol but it's okay since GeSun's hugs and eye contact are enough to get me excited. Both Dilraba and Wulei have done an excellent job in their roles and I hope to see them reunite in a modern drama someday.

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