Vincenzo: Episode 12
by quirkycase
There’s turmoil both outside and inside Babel as our leads continue wreaking havoc and factions begin to emerge within Babel’s inner circle. It’s a game of survival at this point, and everyone is taking risks. Meanwhile, the gold hunt is ongoing at Geumga Plaza, and new information surfaces that suggests there may be more than just gold buried underneath the temple.
EPISODE 12
Right as Vincenzo goes to shoot, Prosecutor Jung shoots a blank into the air. A tear of relief and fear falls from Joon-woo’s eye. Prosecutor Jung is flanked by several officials with guns, and he orders Vincenzo to drop his weapon. Vincenzo yells that Joon-woo is really Jang Han-seok while Joon-woo screams and cries that he’s not.
Joon-woo secretly smiles at Vincenzo and dares him to shoot. Vincenzo tamps down on his rage and finally lowers his gun, allowing the prosecutors to handcuff him. Ever since Prosecutor Jung found bloodstains in the underpass, he’s been keeping tabs on Vincenzo which led him here.
Cha-young meets Joon-woo as he and Myung-hee are leaving the prosecution office. He tries to play innocent and deny his identity, but Cha-young delivers two hard slaps across his face. Even still, Joon-woo begs Cha-young to listen and keeps lying.
She goes off on him for deceiving her all this time but mostly for all the remorseless murders he’s committed. Cha-young says he’s not even human and doesn’t deserve to live. When he again protests his innocence, Myung-hee has to hold Cha-young back from pummeling him.
During Vincenzo’s interrogation, Prosecutor Jung notes that Vincenzo’s gun and bullets were fake. What’s a mafioso doing with a fake gun? Cha-young argues his relation to the Mafia is irrelevant. The fake gun makes his crime intimidation, not attempted murder.
In a flashback, we learn that Vincenzo decided on a new plan. Rather than killing Joon-woo, he’ll go by Mafia revenge rules and hit him with his worst fear, exposing his identity. Then, he’ll take what he most values: Babel. Also, Vincenzo knows Cha-young would keep fighting Babel alone if he were to kill Joon-woo and leave.
The first step was to use Prosecutor Jung to expose Joon-woo’s identity. Vincenzo had known Prosecutor Jung’s people were tailing him and made sure to drag out the scene at Joon-woo’s until they arrived. Now, Vincenzo and Cha-young argue that they’re his only friends in this fight against Babel. Prosecutor Jung looks reluctantly convinced.
When Wusang and Babel hear that Vincenzo was let go due to his fake gun, they assume Prosecutor Jung falsified the evidence. Myung-hee encourages Joon-woo to lay low since Prosecutor Jung is preparing charges against Babel and wants to summon him. Chairman Jang says he’ll appear for the summons and suggests Joon-woo hide out at their father’s villa.
Now that he has some time, Vincenzo meets with Gilbert to suss out the situation. After ensuring Gilbert told no one but the tenants about the gold, Vincenzo passes over two envelopes stuffed with cash in exchange for Gilbert leaving the area and handing over the worker’s phone with the photo of the gold.
Next, Vincenzo meets with the tenants and tries to convince them the photo of the gold was faked and that there is no gold. Mi-ri gives him some serious side-eye but stays quiet. One of CEO Park’s employees happens to overhear the talk of gold and goes running to report back to CEO Park.
Afterward, Mi-ri approaches Vincenzo outside of Jipuragi and scares him with talk of a ghost who haunts the basement. She explains he should never dig there unless he wants to be possessed.
Elsewhere, Joon-woo notes with some trepidation how “reliable” Chairman Jang is becoming and leaves things to him temporarily. Chairman Jang is pleasantly surprised when Joon-woo puts him in charge of auctioning off Babel Tower.
At Geumga Plaza, the tenants decide to leave Vincenzo out of the gold hunt (“What would he know? It’s not his gold.”). They find new resolve after realizing that the gold could conceivably be claimed by Babel as the building owner if they don’t find it first. CEO Park and his lackey barge in and offer to “help” with the gold hunt, but the tenants feign ignorance.
The Jipuragi team, meanwhile, decides to start with investigating Babel Chemicals’ illegal anti-union activities since Cha-young knows from her spy that Wusang is working on that charge first. When Cheol-wook pops in begging to help, Vincenzo finally relents. He sends Cheol-wook to join his minions who have been keeping tabs on Joon-woo and currently watch him arrive at his hideout.
At Wusang, the team discusses how to deal with the anti-union charge. Myung-hee’s decision to handle it the “classic” way – her mention of having enough money to compensate lost lives makes the nature of that method clear – worries Attorney Han who argues the times have changed. What if they let Chairman Jang negotiate with the union leader? Myung-hee sees through him and advises Attorney Han to choose his ladder carefully to avoid falling to his death.
Cha-young’s ex-colleague spy witnessed the confrontation and reports back to Jipuragi. Unfortunately for them, he’s not happy with her vague promise of Boston and refuses to help further. Vincenzo’s connections save the day again when he offers the spy a position on the “Lomborgheni” (pfft) sports car manufacturer’s legal team. Now he’s very helpful and even uncomplainingly does some impressions for Vincenzo.
Afterward, Vincenzo and Cha-young stop by a food cart for some bungeoppang (carp-shaped pastry filled with red bean paste) and start arguing over minute differences between types of the pastry. They decide to bet on it and make penalty a forehead flick again.
CEO Park stops them when they get back to Geumga Plaza and tries to pall around with Vincenzo who takes issue with his claim that they’re in the same line of business. CEO Park isn’t daunted and offers to let them use his hot-air balloon service on the house if they need to flee.
The tenants invite CEO Park and his crew for dinner at Hee-soo’s. It looks like they’ve decided to bring CEO Park int the gold hunt now that Vincenzo is out. CEO Park just happens to know who he claims is the best gold prospector in Korea.
Mi-ri seems like the one to watch in this gold hunt business. She has an entire hacker-y setup in her apartment, making the comments about her being “pretty good” with computers quite the understatement.
Meanwhile, Joon-woo watches the drama “Time Between Mutt and Mountain Wolf” (Ha!). He clicks it off in frustration at the scene where one man kills another to take his place.
Joon-woo downs a bottle of water and hops in the bath. Suddenly, he starts to feel weak and slips under the water before he can call for help. He falls unconscious.
Elsewhere, Myung-hee tries to bribe the union leader, but he finds the whole thing dirty and wants no part in it. He leaves after vowing to report this to the prosecution. Uh-oh, there’s a crosswalk which you know spells Truck of Doom. Sure enough, as Myung-hee stuffs her face in the restaurant, a Truck of Doom runs over the union leader outside.
A now conscious and angry Joon-woo calls Vincenzo who admits to spiking his bottled water. Cheol-wook and the minions had held the delivery truck up and smuggled in the drugged water. Joon-woo mocks him for this second failed murder attempt, but Vincenzo argues he never meant to kill him.
They’d tested the drugged water out on Joo-sung (with his consent) to figure out the right dosage. Vincenzo promises to kill Joon-woo soon – he doesn’t want him to have the honor of being Babel’s chairman in his obituary.
Joon-woo denies being scared yet rails at Attorney Han and Myung-hee for not protecting him better and demands new guards. Myung-hee perks him up with the news that the union leader is dead. Joon-woo grabs her in a hug and makes her do a fist bump. (But no fist bump for Attorney Han.)
At Jipuragi, Cha-young wonders where Wusang finds all these people to do their dirty work. Vincenzo, clearly speaking from experience, says that there’s plenty of options when you offer to lighten people’s sentences.
Hee-soo and Hong-shik drop by and draw confused looks from Cha-young and Joo-sung when they tell Vincenzo his gold-hunting services are no longer needed. Once they leave, Cha-young confronts Vincenzo, shocked that his story about the gold was true.
Joo-sung feels left out, so Vincenzo shares the truth with both of them: there’s actually over 1 trillion won buried under the temple. Joo-sung and Cha-young suddenly say they’re all like family and go in for a group hug.
While Joon-woo gets his hair styled by not one but two stylists, Chairman Jang suggests they go hunting together. Joon-woo is all in. Somehow this seems dangerous for both brothers.
Back at Jipuragi, Vincenzo reveals that his share of the gold is 70% with the other 30% going to Young-woon. Cha-young and Joo-sung are gung-ho to protect the money once Vincenzo says they’ll each get a cut.
At Wusang, Attorney Han rushes into Myung-hee’s office to inform her that the prosecution discovered there’s been leak from the International Security Intelligence Service. They’ve been covering up that a file called “Guillotine” was stolen in a hack, and now that it’s been revealed, there’s chaos.
Over at the intelligence agency, Director Tae orders Team Leader Ahn to return and help handle this leak issue. Team Leader Ahn isn’t ready to leave his precious consigliere yet, though, and argues he can’t leave things hanging. He promises to wrap things up quickly and literally runs away before Director Tae can stop him.
Team Leader Ahn rushes into Jipuragi to ask for Vincenzo’s advice about his agency’s issue and doesn’t notice Joo-sung standing there. Now they have to explain his identity to Joo-sung who laments that he was again left in the dark.
Breaking all sorts of protocols and probably laws, Team Leader Ahn shares that a former president ordered the Guillotine file created to detail influential public figures’ corruption. Cha-young astutely guesses it was insurance against retaliation from the president’s enemies once he left office.
The file was swiped and deleted off their servers by Chinese hackers, a fact the agency managed to hide until recently. They found the man who ordered the hacking and discovered he hid the file and his slush fund in Korea. However, he died a year ago. Well, this further complicates the gold situation.
Team Leader Ahn asks where Vincenzo thinks Wang Shaolin would’ve hidden the file, but he’s uncooperative and flatly says he doesn’t know. At Wusang, Attorney Han tells Myung-hee that Babel has been paying off the agency because of whatever is in that file. They agree to hold off informing Chairman Jang while they search for it.
Alone that night, Vincenzo muses over the implications of Wang Shaolin and the Guillotine file. He scoffs to realize the report is likely on a USB hidden in one of the gold bars.
The next day, the Jang brothers head into the woods to hunt together for the first time in years. Joon-woo reminisces about their first hunting trip with their father. The brothers had just met, and their father wanted them to bond.
Joon-woo spots an animal and shoots. When he runs over to check, Chairman Jang hangs back looking conflicted. Attorney Han had encouraged him to use this opportunity to kill Joon-woo, saying he could be Abel with a happy ending, one where he doesn’t have to fear Cain. (I think he missed the point of that story.)
Chairman Jang nervously loads his gun while yelling over to Joon-woo that he’s spotted something up ahead. While Joon-woo raises his rifle in the direction Chairman Jang indicates, Chairman Jang aims his rifle at Joon-woo’s back.
Oh, snap, he actually fires. Chairman Jang hits him in the side, and Joon-woo goes down. Chairman Jang creeps over, gun still trained on his brother’s prone body. Slowly, Joon-woo gets up and angrily limps toward his brother.
Chairman Jang backs away wide-eyed as the blood-soaked Joon-woo advances. Joon-woo stops and tells his brother he should’ve aimed better. He collapses unconscious. Before Chairman Jang can shoot again, a man happens upon the scene. Chairman Jang plays the concerned brother and cries for help.
Things are a lot more light-hearted at Jipuragi where Cha-young revels in winning the bet about bungeoppang. She’s now the one torturing Vincenzo by making him wait in anticipation for the forehead flick. In a mirror image of last time, Cha-young steps closer and gets caught up staring at his face while his eyes are closed.
Vincenzo opens his eyes to tell her to get a move on and finds her very close. They stare at each other for a charged moment before Cha-young panics and delivers a vicious flick that sends him reeling back.
They’re saved from more awkwardness by a phone call informing Vincenzo of what happened to Joon-woo. They don’t buy that this was an accident and from the look on Myung-hee’s face at the hospital as she watches Chairman Jang, neither does she.
The doctor reports that they were able to successfully remove the bullet and stop the bleeding – Joon-woo will make it. Chairman Jang scrubs his bloody hands in the bathroom and tells his shaking self not to regret or be afraid.
Joon-woo wakes in his hospital bed with Myung-hee by his side. He tells her about his nightmare where someone was burying him in a cemetery. He suspects that nightmare could come true and wants her opinion. “Please answer me, my consigliere.”
Myung-hee honestly states this could happen again and advises him to publicly take the role of chairman so he’s not buried namelessly. He’s hesitant, but she pushes that his secrecy is becoming his biggest vulnerability. She encourages him not to jump to conclusions about Chairman Jang’s intent, so he agrees to accept that it’s an accident for now. He offers Myung-hee his hand which she takes in both of hers.
Meanwhile, Young-woon politely asks Vincenzo if they can speed up getting the gold since he needs the money. Vincenzo offers to give him what he needs but spits his water in surprise when Young-woon asks for 30 billion won. Young-woon got reckless with gambling and investing knowing that he’d be rich soon.
Vincenzo enlists Cha-young and Joo-sung’s help in planning how to get the monks out of Nanyak Temple for a few hours. They decide to set up a spa trip, paid for by Jipuragi, for all the tenants. Some of them are excited, but the monks as well as a few others are reluctant to leave. As a last resort, Joo-sung spontaneously proclaims that whoever takes the best vacation photo will receive 20 million won.
Elsewhere, Chairman Jang gathers Babel’s big backers and promises to give their strongest supporters a part of Babel Tower. His presentation is interrupted by Joon-woo in his hospital clothes, wheeling in his IV. Joon-woo has some fun scaring Prosecutor Hwang before Myung-hee announces to the room that Joon-woo is the true heir of Babel.
Joon-woo plans to take the reigns now and thanks Chairman Jang for all his hard work. He grabs his shocked brother in a hug and whispers that it hurt so much he thought he’d die.
At Geumga Plaza, as soon as everyone leaves for their group trip – including Cha-young and Joo-sung – Vincenzo and Young-woon rush to Nanyak Temple. They offer a little prayer of apology before ripping off the floorboards and prying open the cement covering to reveal the hatch.
They open it with the stolen biometrics and descend the ladder. At long last, they see the pile of gold with their own eyes. Vincenzo moves away to look at the artifacts and finds a gun pressed to the back of his head. He slowly turns to face Young-woon who keeps his gun trained on Vincenzo.
COMMENTS
I knew something would go wrong once they got down there. I was half expecting Mi-ri to somehow already be down there waiting for them. I’ve never fully trusted Young-woon, so I’m not surprised he’s betraying Vincenzo. I’m not sure if it’s just greed or if he’s working for someone else. I’m leaning toward there being a reason besides the money since I don’t think his friendship with Vincenzo is faked. Young-woon has been pushing a little too hard for Vincenzo to quickly retrieve the gold, and his debt story is kind of suspicious. Vincenzo’s immediate response was that the spending was out of character for Young-woon, so I doubt he’d blindly believe his story. Also, it doesn’t seem like Vincenzo told him that Cha-young and Joo-sung are involved now, which suggests he doesn’t completely trust Young-woon. Given the way this usually plays out, Vincenzo probably predicted everything and set another plan in motion with his Jipuragi team. Or maybe the drama will surprise me, and Vincenzo will be completely unprepared.
Of course, now we know there’s more than just the gold at stake. Vincenzo is currently the only one who knows Wang Shaolin hid the Guillotine report with the gold; if he gets his hands on it, that’s quite the leverage. Not only would the intelligence agency be at his mercy, but from what Attorney Han said, there’s damning evidence against Babel in it, which I’d imagine could greatly help Jipuragi take them down. Now that Joon-woo is in the open, he’s less vulnerable, so Jipuragi could use the extra leverage. I’m glad Vincenzo decided to go the more creative route with getting revenge and didn’t outright kill Joon-woo. Destroying his reputation and company will be the most satisfying revenge, and it has the advantage of being less murder-y.
That’s assuming Joon-woo lasts long enough for them to succeed – Chairman Jang was this close to taking him out. I was surprised he had the guts to pull the trigger, but his bid for power has seriously backfired on him. Like Joon-woo said, he really should’ve made sure his aim was on point before he did something that drastic. I’m sure Joon-woo isn’t going to let him off the hook for this, even if he’s letting it slide temporarily. And now that Joon-woo has gone public, Chairman Jang is expendable. Chairman Jang’s best bet for survival is to team up with Joon-woo’s enemies. He probably has a lot of intel that Vincenzo and Cha-young could use both about Babel’s business dealings and Joon-woo personally. I don’t know how much he cares about Babel, but I’d wager it’s less than he cares about his own life.
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1 dramalover4ever
March 31, 2021 at 10:05 PM
I just hope that no one gets stuck in that vault. It gives me the creeps.
I am also wondering how it's possible to get all of that heavy gold out. Has Young-woon thought past pulling the gun on Vincenzo, who we know has a couple of really good moves under his belt. Getting into the vault once was hard enough, getting the gold out in one go seems impossible, unless you have a whole team of people you are prepared to get rid of (again). I'm tipping that the wily tenants circle back in the nick of time and spoil everything...
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ar_arguably romantic
April 1, 2021 at 5:25 PM
I got really nervous when all the residents hopped onto that one bus (even though I know the show won't kill them at this point). Like what if Young-woon had a plan in motion to kill them all? Remember what happened the last time when several people went on a trip a few episodes back?
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Jance
April 2, 2021 at 2:25 PM
I was yelling lock the temple door behind you or someone’s going to slam the vault shut while you’re inside! *shudders* Parasite gave me the creeps for the same reason...
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dramalover4ever
April 2, 2021 at 3:39 PM
Being claustrophobic ..
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2 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
March 31, 2021 at 11:31 PM
ISIS?
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FlyingTool
April 1, 2021 at 6:30 AM
PROBABLY unintentional...
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3 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 31, 2021 at 11:45 PM
Gonna sit on my Vault Rant till I see the fall out next episode, in case it becomes redundant, but in general just... *controversial sigh*
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
March 31, 2021 at 11:56 PM
Vault would be a nice place to bury Joon-woo for all eternity.
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FlyingTool
April 1, 2021 at 6:12 PM
Too grandiose a mausoleum.
Outhouse.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
April 1, 2021 at 10:36 PM
Considering his greatest fear is dying unknown and buried in an unknown cemetery, I say commit identity theft and dump his body somewhere it will never ever be found. Like at the bottom of the Marianna Trench or feed him to some pigs.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 11, 2021 at 1:29 PM
My only comment on him is - what a shame Han-Seo's aim wasn't better. I could have done with a villain upgrade...
also it would spare us from having to watch more of that ....whatever passes for acting (yes he's cartoonish but registers as unintentionally so with all the nostril-flaring and eye-popping, meanwhile the Geumga crew and even Attorney Han are portrayed as people we're meant to see as a bit ridiculous....and even 'extra' acting requires the skill of comic timing).
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4 MeloMe
March 31, 2021 at 11:55 PM
So is this how they want to kick-start Vincenzo's redemption arch? The power and money hungry faces of Vincenzo and Mr Cho in the end were so scary!! Vincenzo will realise what money does to ppl and back off..?
Who else thinks Vincenzo will trade in that file for indemnity and gain immunity by the Korean government in exchange! I also think that he might end up at that NIS Bureau (or whatever, the place where Mr Ahn works) in the end..! I know he's not innocent and has done a lot of killings but I honestly don't think too much about it or other parts of the plot! It's pure entertainment for me, something to look forward to after tiring weekends (yes I have reviews and assignments due almost every other weekend 😭) so I enjoy this dark-ish silly-ish humour that has enough plot and action happening to satiate me.
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ar_arguably romantic
April 1, 2021 at 5:27 PM
That's a good theory on how this could end! I was speculating he would make an appointment with that travel agency and hot-air-balloon out of south korea and onto an island.
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miss h
April 2, 2021 at 8:18 AM
That's my ending scenario lol. You can believe he made it or not.
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Netsuke
April 3, 2021 at 2:25 AM
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5 panshel
April 1, 2021 at 12:25 AM
I think CEO Park's hot-air balloon offer is foreshadowing of our ending. I think Vincenzo is going to flee the country with Cha-young and his gold in a hot-air balloon, and their first kiss will be in the balloon. I never thought Vincenzo would go to jail because he's been arrested three times, yet got out every time. Besides, his fan club president Team Leader Ahn will convince NIS to protect him. He only killed people because he's in the Mafia, so if he needs to be jailed, it would be in Italy.
Our worst fear came true, and Manager Cho is betraying Vincenzo. I feel sorry for Vincenzo because Manager Cho was the one person he trusted. I was annoyed by Mi-ri's eavesdropping and the tenants' finders keepers claim even offering to give Vincenzo a cut. That's his gold -- even though it's not actually his gold -- but he was responsible for the gold being in that building. I was shocked at Vincenzo sharing the truth with Cha-young (again) and Paralegal Nam. Aww, he really thinks of Jipuragi as family. I know it's so much money that even if he gave everyone at Geumga a cut, he wouldn't miss it, but in my opinion, they don't deserve it.
It sucks that Han-seo didn't take his chance to kill Joon-woo when he could because now Joon-woo will never let him off. I wished Vincenzo and Cha-young did a DNA test on the brothers when Joon-woo tried to play innocent at the prosecution office.
My heart cracked yesterday when drunk Cha-young came to the conclusion that she didn't have feelings for him, so did she lie because he was clearly not in danger during the forehead flick? My heart stopped when Vincenzo opened his eyes as she was thisclose to him.
Thanks a ton for the recap, @quirkycase!
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MeloMe
April 1, 2021 at 12:43 AM
Fleeing on a hot air balloon with the agency protecting them is also a good guess for a possible end. I, too, think it unlikely that Vincenzo will be jailed.
The DNA would prove they are brothers but not that he's the one who is pulling all the strings which is more of their concern.
Regarding the last bit, she was drunk enough to pass of that "test" as a stupid drunk action and act like nothing happened the next day but sober enough to be able to lie 😂
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Kurama
April 1, 2021 at 2:01 AM
Gold is pretty heavy and there was a lot of it in the vault, so I'm not sure hot-air balloon is the best and safe solution. At least, he should send the money by cargo to Malta and escape himself by balloon.
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blnmom
April 1, 2021 at 9:20 AM
There better be a hot air balloon scene sometime before the end. They can't just tease that and not deliver!
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ar_arguably romantic
April 1, 2021 at 5:34 PM
I also suspect we will end with him on a hot air balloon, but I'm not sure if Cha-young will join. I feel like the drama won't give him THAT happy of an ending since he did kill people in the past.
I wondered why they didn't go the DNA test route either. That would seem the simplest.
I truly believe she didn't have feelings for him in Episode 11 - it was hilarious because she tried different head positions to see if she can conjure up those feelings. There must be something about that spot in the Jipuragi office to get you to see someone in a different light.
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jamjam95
April 1, 2021 at 6:54 PM
I think Chayoung definitely lied in Ep 11 about not having feelings lol. She passed it off as her being "drunk," but I think she was testing his feelings for her more than herself. It's plain as day that they both have feelings (the stares, late night talks, him walking her home, her every so often asking if he plans to stay in korea, the gaze when he was on that horse), but neither is willing to make the first move. He was trying so hard to control himself during that hug so she almost got him haha.
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Possum
April 3, 2021 at 5:12 AM
I think she lied about her feelings because Vincenzo didn’t respond to the hug. She could back out without any real confession.
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 11, 2021 at 1:33 PM
Re: drunk Cha-young, I'm convinced her inability to identify herself as having the hots for Vincenzo has a lot to do with the fact that he was actively stopping himself from returning the drunk hug. But they absolutely have the (reciprocated) hots for each other lol.
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6 Rose
April 1, 2021 at 1:56 AM
Wow the ending, I knew Mr. Choi was suspicious, but I was kinda hoping for him to stay on the good side, actually, I still hope so. There is a good chance that he is doing what he is doing because he has no choice, who knows, maybe...
Humor in this drama is so good, I love how crazy everyone can be, overall I'm enjoying this drama so much ^_^
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7 Nigerina
April 1, 2021 at 2:00 AM
All this time they could have just drugged the monks and other tenants to buy them time and gor the gold though.
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8 korfan
April 1, 2021 at 2:16 AM
I'm suddenly a little unsure about Mi-ri. I feel like she's up to something. What exactly? I don't know. But something.
By the way, are we really expected, at this point, to believe that she has piano students? I haven't seen one. Then again, I haven't seen a single customer/client go into that building, heading into any of the other business establishments.
Looking forward to what's to come between Vincenzo and Mr. Cho as well as with puppet Chairman Jang and his brother Joon-woo.
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uzistar
April 1, 2021 at 11:53 AM
I guess showing that Mi-ri is good with computers and the Guillotine report getting hacked could mean something... Either she was involved with the hacking or she could be of help in the future.
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korfan
April 1, 2021 at 12:28 PM
Yes. This may very well be the case regarding Mi-ri.
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9 Eazal
April 1, 2021 at 2:21 AM
My fangirl heart almost exploded with that epic scene of the drama "Time Between Mutt and Mountain Wolf" with NichKhun and Chansung, hehe. It was short but fan. And just after that we had that totally needless shirtless Taec's scene. Thanks so much, PD *sends finger hearts*
As for the episode, I don't think Young Woon is betraying Vincenzo. Maybe he just want a bigger part. They are both there for the gold, and they know they need each other, and honestly there is enough for them. It would be stupid to get rid of an ally, specially when the gold is still in the vault and they need it out.
Best thing of the episode was, as always KDY's acting. I'm never get tired of saying this. He's just amazing.
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Kafiyah Bello
April 1, 2021 at 4:12 PM
I literally said Eazel is going to love this when I saw that scene with Nickhun and Chansung. I wanted to post to your wall, but I didn't know if you had seen it or not. lol.
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soulsearch12
April 1, 2021 at 6:52 PM
Kwak Do Yeon is talented and attractive!! I thought his character was interesting, being the black sheep out of his family, and his weird bro dynamic with Taceyeon. That being said, it does suck that after Ep 12, his arc may disappear as his bro has now revealed himself as the true CEO of Babel.
He's was a teen actor, and is now in the awkward stage of transitioning to becoming a mature actor now. It helps that he has less of a baby face too. Let's manifest a drama for him as the lead!! Possibly in hockey gear ;)? He looked so good in the hockey outfit!!
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bewitched
April 3, 2021 at 1:22 AM
I kind of know the feeling! I binged watched 12 episodes yesterday and squealed so hard seeing Chansung and Nichkhun on the screen. I read somewhere that they’re doing cameo but that scene came out of nowhere lol. Now can we have Junho as Seo Yul pleaseeee. I mean he’s out of mandatory service and they even had TQ mart delivered the water. Come on.
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10 Kurama
April 1, 2021 at 2:36 AM
So Cha-Young continued to troll me...
So they succeeded the first step of their plan, Joon-Woo revealed his true identity. They have 8 episodes to make him suffer now!
For the gold, I wasn't surprised by the betrayal, there is a lot of gold in there... It can change the determination of a lot of people and the guy did all the hard work.
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11 Kafiyah Bello
April 1, 2021 at 4:19 AM
The plot thickens. That is my comment, lol.
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12 finalparadox
April 1, 2021 at 8:15 AM
Just a few thoughts this episode:
1. That was an intense opening! I found the the anger radiating from both men and the smirk/tears gripping
2. Cha-young's slaps were LONG overdue. I really wanna see the BTS video for that scene.
2. Poor Han-seo. Even with a loaded gun he's still afraid of his brother. I hope he continues to roll his eyes as much as he wants. The scene where Joon-woo/Han-seok got up covered in blood and stumbled towards him was great.
3. The paralegal deserves the world.
4. The scene between Myung-hee and Joon-woo at the hospital felt oddly vulnerable and touching.
5. I'm guessing that Vincenzo might not make it out of this show without some serious repercussions since they seem to be drawing parallels between him and the Babel/Wusang folks.
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miso
April 1, 2021 at 5:23 PM
Strongly agree with #4. Had to keep reminding myself they are both cruel murderers.
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ar_arguably romantic
April 1, 2021 at 5:43 PM
Hell yes to those slaps!! And poor Han-seo...now that Joon-woo has stepped out to be real head of Babel, isn't Han-seo useless to Joon-woo now? When Joon-woo got his hair done to look just like Han-seo's and because of him watching the drama "Time Between Mutt and Mountain Wolf”, I was worried that he would maybe kill Han-seo and somehow replace him?
I feel like Myung-hee may be the only one who doesn't look at Joon-woo like a monster even knowing he is one.
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finalparadox
April 2, 2021 at 8:38 AM
Yeah, this will probably force Han-seo to seek out Jipuragi.
That's a good point about Myung-hee and Joon-woo. While he does scare her, she accepts him at face value and I guess Joon-woo sees Myung-hee as someone competent on his side, especially since Cha-young is gone. Being an evil CEO is a lonely job ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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jamjam95
April 1, 2021 at 6:42 PM
Forgot to comment about the slaps but yess omg I was so satisfied to see that. She should have slapped Myung-hee too. They're both despicable and if they do become a thing (ew), then they'd be a good fit that way. Birds of a feather.
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soulsearch12
April 1, 2021 at 6:59 PM
Kim Yeo Jin the actress who plays Myung-hee is despicable yet so intriguing to me. I like how all the characters in this show are morally and ethically grey, they aren't just good or bad. But Myung-hee is pure evil, but strangely I find her more sinister in feel than Joon Won (One letter off from Joo Won lol, umm for the actors sake thank goodness, its one letter off!). I can see her cutting/offing Joon Won to get to the top.
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finalparadox
April 2, 2021 at 8:40 AM
It's refreshing to see a character like her!
For some reason I have a soft spot for everyone on this show because they're such oddballs.
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soulsearch12
April 3, 2021 at 11:46 PM
I think this show is like in a weird way a mirror to society? As in we may try to or think we are more moral than that, and yet we all have our guilty or greedy tendencies as we are human after all lol. And this show shows that with the tenants and the gold, like we clearly see how its not theirs to claim, but in a situation where we could find that obscene amount of $$, we could/might act the same :D
Jance
April 2, 2021 at 2:30 PM
Yes for 3! I mean, he even tested the drugs - talk about taking one for the team... poor guy was left out of everything, too!
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finalparadox
April 2, 2021 at 3:07 PM
Agreed! He's the hero we deserve
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 11, 2021 at 1:36 PM
Seconding the HELL YES to Cha-young and those slaps. Long overdue imo!
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13 KimDewdrop
April 1, 2021 at 8:38 AM
I'm I the only one who thinks that gold bars are all fake and Mr. Cho will come crying on his knees later.
From the beginning of the slow-burn romance btw our main leads, I had expected that gold to be fake and Vincenzo having no option but to remain in Korea.
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jamjam95
April 1, 2021 at 6:39 PM
Oh wow that would be a twist! Though it would be nice if Vincenzo stayed because he wanted to and not bc he was forced lol
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Lily left the valley
April 21, 2021 at 12:01 AM
Now you've just triggered a theory I hadn't even thought of...what if the "homeless" guy really isn't, and has been in charge of monitoring the gold all this time for the intelligence agency?
All the gold being fake...now THAT I did not even think of! Like, this vault was to throw his family off when he really put it somewhere else? Yeah...would not have thought of that.
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14 larelle79
April 1, 2021 at 9:26 AM
Here is my theory about the gold and Guillotine. Wang wasn't as quiet about that information as Vincenzo thinks and someone in the circle went to Cho (because is the actual middleman who has been kept abreast of the information and the transportation of the gold to begin with) and asked him to take care of this and he can get more than 30 percent of the take.
Or Cho figured out that more than him and Vincenzo know about it (he figured out that Mi-ri was spying on them) and don't appreciate how Vincenzo is handling this now.
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15 ar_arguably romantic
April 1, 2021 at 5:56 PM
Wow, Han-seo really shot Joon-woo! Did not expect that!
Joon-woo is underwritten, but it's fascinating and also disgusting to watch him in this episode as he switches between puppy Joon-woo and crazy motherf-----r. I think he does the scared-innocent-puppy-look so well, my brain is like "what the what? did I just imagine he was a murderer." The two-facedness is enraging.
That dirt on all the powerful people must be worth another trillion dollars! Vincenzo's terrible at keeping his cool when talking about the gold - making it obvious that there IS gold down there. I love that scene with Gilbert - those winks!
I love the argument about the fish bread and the resultant bet and forehead flick. I thought it was a great mirror to one where Vincenzo won the bet, and found it hilarious that she gave him a very forceful flick instead of the soft one he gave her.
The delivery service for the water was TQ - the company from Chief Kim.
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16 jamjam95
April 1, 2021 at 6:31 PM
Haven't commented on a drama in a long time, but I binged Vincenzo this past week and got caught up super fast lol. It's quickly becoming my favorite of the year and I especially really like Chayoung (Jeon Yeobin is becoming a fast fav) as a character and hope they can flesh out her story even more in the last 8 episodes. Love her partnership with Vincenzo and I would be reallyyyy happy if they got together ngl lol (those finger flicks and makgeolli late night dates tho), but tonally it's hard to see it happening soon. One can hope though <3
Other than that, I'm honestly not super interested in the gold story. The duo is what is hooking me to the drama and I hope they can find a way to be happy in the end. I am super entertained by the tenants though! Excited to see their shenanigans when they come back from their "vacation."
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pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
April 11, 2021 at 1:40 PM
Same, the hook of this drama for me isn't the plot, it's absolutely the characters. Especially the duo!
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jamjam95
April 13, 2021 at 9:31 PM
Agreed! The plot is also good and fast-paced which is appreciated, but the characters bring the show to the next level.
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17 soulsearch12
April 1, 2021 at 7:10 PM
I really like this show, I have gelled with it, and now look forward to this show every weekend now. That being said, while I really like this show, I don't like OMG love it levels. I think its b/c, I've to admit, I feel like its starting to drag a bit, and we're seeing the same stories recycled for 1 hr, until the last 10-15 minutes of "OMG, Holy crap moments." Still solid, but the 20 episodes count is starting to show a bit here.
Song Joong Ki may not have a mafia face or vibe, in fact Taecyeon's body is more jacked than his. Seriously how many shirtless moments do we have of Taecyeon lol? Not complaining though ;) But he does bring a fresh vibe to mafia role that someone like Jang Hyuk would have been the ML in the 2010s. I love Jeon Yeo-bin's depiction of her role, a break out moment for her!! I heard that SJK allowed JYB to fully go all crazy with her role, and b/c of his trust in her, she was able to be more emotive w/ her role. I still do miss her father though, I wish we could've gotten a few more episodes with him as the moral grounding here.
Don't know if anyone seen Barry (HBO), but Vincenzo's dark underbelly filled with wacky side characters, and an anti hero ML and FL who isn't to everyone's taste, and crime aspects really remind fo that show. I just hope that the last 8 episodes really bring it in terms of a cat and mouse game between Joon Won and the Vincenzo to a pitch perfect ride.
If this show continues going well, I can see this show bagging a Baeksang noms/win(s) esp. for SJK here. Boy, what a comeback that would be for SJK for sure. And to think he was the dorky boy in Triple/Sungkyunkwan Scandal, what a difference 11-12 yrs makes on someone :O
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Eazal
April 3, 2021 at 4:11 AM
Only two shirtless moments. I’m a good fanfics, I’m a good fangirl. I keep the count. ☺️
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soulsearch12
April 3, 2021 at 11:43 PM
I mean his Men's Health BTS video is ICONIC. fans self*
His physique is godly LOL. I did have to lol in the bath scene, the camera lingered on his physique for longer than usual :D.But whose complaining right ;)
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Lily left the valley
April 21, 2021 at 12:11 AM
I miss the lawyer dad too. But I think they timed it to move along the law team swap with court hijinks to put real pressure onto Babel and its lawyers. If she had continued to have that antagonistic relationship with her dad for more eps, it'd have been a lot harder to change sympathy when he passes. I think folks would have been more "What did she expect" sorts of comments, rather than feeling bad for her and cheering her on as happened.
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18 Bebot
April 2, 2021 at 5:56 PM
This is from The Fiery Priest writer that's why some supporting characters and the humor are like TFP. I feel like i'm watching TFP 2.0. I think the drama won't focus much in the romance just like TFP. They have their own counterparts :D
Fiery Priest (Kim Nam Gil) - Vincenzo (Song Joong ki)
Park Kyung Sun (Lee Hanee) - Hong Cha Young (Jeon Yoo Been)
Goo Dae Young (Kim Sung Kyun) - Ahn Gi Seok (Im Chul Soo)
Priest Lee Young Joon (Jung Dong-Hwan) - Hong Yoo Chan (Yoo Jae Myung)
Hwang Cheol Bum (Go Jun) - Jang Han Seo (Kwak Dong Yeon)
Jung Dong-Ja (Jeong Young -Ju) - Jang Jung Woo (Ok Taecyeon)
Kang Seok Tae (Kim Hyung Mook Fyi he is in Vincenzon too as TOTO) - Han Seung Hyuk (Jo Han Chul)
Seo Sung Ah (Keum Sae Rok) - Nam Joo Sung (Yoon Byung Hee)
Jang Ryeong (Eum Moon Suk) - Park Seok Do (Kim Young Woong)
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dramalover4ever
April 2, 2021 at 6:29 PM
Yes. This writer is so distinctive.
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soulsearch12
April 3, 2021 at 11:40 PM
I'm of two minds like A) He has a formula that works and has been proven successful. B) He's a One trick pony, and it might turn stale the more similar his future works are.
I'm like of both minds tbh. This show implements some romance elements that might blossom into a romantic one compared to TFP since he was a priest in TFP. But ironically, TFP didn't have the international audience or hype that Vincenzo has, prob. b/c this has SJK/Taecyeon. But honestly, TFP had some problematic moments, w/ the Thai character. The writer's comedy isn't for everyone, but it does fit the S.K comedic mindset of big/broad slap sticky comedy.
But I'll say, I do love that he really gives big or small scenes to his side characters/supporting cast. I heard TFP actors (supporting/side) said being on the show helped their career, and made them not quit acting from lack of work. So for Vincenzo, I expect the same for all the talent involved to get a career resurgence or boost :)
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Bebot
April 12, 2021 at 5:05 PM
The fiery priest isn't airing in Netflix unlike Vincenzo. By the time it was airing korean drama wasn't a hype in Netflix. Korean Drama became most popular in Netflix when COVID 19 started. TFP won best drama and Kim Nam Gil got the daesang award because of it. Even some of the cast got some awards. Some people are waiting for it's season 2 to come out.
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soulsearch12
April 13, 2021 at 5:31 PM
It does seem like TPF was able to hit off in Korea and did so well there. It was the #1 rated K-drama (Public) there. I heard its on some regions in Netflix. This also shows me how big Netflix's reach is internationally. They definitely push and promote shows to a larger audience.
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19 Lily left the valley
April 21, 2021 at 12:19 AM
Written before I read comments...and some thoughts have muddied/expanded, but not 100% sure which way to lean just yet.
The drugged water bit, I actually thought younger brother stepped up and did something. I was a bit early on that score. And damn if I wasn't disappointed that his shot wasn't a definitive kill. I was still hoping he'd be the third act villain with his brother gone. Still, the bathroom scene...he may snap and try again, which I'd kinda rather see than simpering in fear so much.
Wow...another ToD! Go ToD! Go. (Poor Union Leader, though. Another throw away character to prove how evil someone is...)
Not buying it that the residents think Vincenzo knows nothing. And that ludicrous reward for a photo? Joo-sung didn't have to go that high to still get their attention. I really suspect they know it's a ruse, and likely may be the ones to save Vincenzo in the vault.
When I saw Mi-ri with the computers, I was thinking "she knows about the gold and the file". Is she a deep agent, or linked somehow to the deceased mobster, girlfriend of a child, perhaps? So many possibilities with this show...
When it seemed evident it was just the two of them going in the vault, I too thought "someone's going to shut that safe and the only copy of the biometric is in Young-woon's pocket."
When I saw the gun come out once they were down in the vault, first I thought he's a deep/turned agent for the intelligence agency, but now I'm wondering if Young-woon is somehow connected to the copy of the stolen files--perhaps told to get it back, or not intelligence related at all, just greed so he can start to profit from blackmail himself?
Count me in on "this will end in a hot air balloon", except that means the gold has to be gone before then--too heavy, which someone else mentioned.
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Lily left the valley
April 21, 2021 at 12:22 AM
Although it did just occur to me...if they ALL end up in hot air balloons, maybe they can distribute the gold broadly enough that they can take it with them?
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