I love how art is so subjective. I was creeped out these two epispdes even if I wished I could be left swooning. CHS has that in him but he consistently crossed the line. But the breaking point for me was him rubbing her lipstick off. YOU DO NOT TOUCH ANYONE'S LIPS, especially an office colleagues that happens to be your sunabe.
That said I guess I liked the brother sisters dynamic the best. CHS and his noonas are a heart warming family. Everything else is atypical.

Ah, I was looking forward to this so much. It has some promising elements—like Miss Victrix pointed out, the motif of the lipstick is used well (save for the last scene in episode 1, one does not reach out to touch someone's lips without permission! It violates personal boundaries, and it's germy!). Also, I love the glimpses of Song-ah's friendship with her housemate, and Hyun-seung's banter with his two batchmate colleagues.

But as I've been discussing with some other Beanies on the fanwall, the execution (directing, editing) is messy. First, the poster and teasers were gorgeous, with a retro, mellow vibe to them. But episode 1 genre-pinballed from slice of life office drama to weekday family drama, then to a sweet romance (the flashback to their first meeting) and melo (when Hyun-seung finds out Song-ah is dating their BM). There's also youth drama bits (the exercising; someone tell me why we were made to follow the perspective of a tennis ball?!) and finally, makjang when Hyun-seung sees the second leads together at the wedding boutique.

I don't mind gradual shifts in tone as a show progresses, and I knew it was going to turn melo/ makjang from the highlight reel, but I was left absolutely disoriented by this genre roulette within the span of an hour.

Also, the show didn't take the time to acquaint us with the characters properly, which is an issue especially for Hyun-seung and his troubling choices in how he approaches Song-ah. Instead, the show tosses the reveals at us and expects us to feel deeply for the characters (something I got from the music and camerawork that lingers as they sit there contemplating their emotions).

Hmm I dont know if I can stick around for this one to be honest. I mean Ronwoon is beautiful as always but the plot is a bit slow paced. It is giving me When the weather is nice vibes in terms of pacing.

Now, for me so far, I don't like Ronwoon character yet. I feel what he did was selfish, self serving and shady. There were other ways he could have told her that her man was cheating but his method was heartbreaking. I mean taking her to see her guy look at wedding dresses with another woman. OUCH that was mean! Like really mean.. its possible he didnt mean it like that but it was almost like he subconsciously wanted to hurt her for loving another man.
Next, the 2nd male lead is far too attractive and with a sympathetic situation. I mean the girl is shameless and basically blackmailing him into marriage . Its obvious he genuinely cares about our FL. Also, my gosh but that mans voice is like thunder wrapped in silk.. 🔥🔥🔥🔥.... whew.. his voice and his eyes got me, I think because he has an interesting face more than a handsome one. Its one of those faces you can stare at. Anywho, I felt sorry for our FL and Ronwoon character got turned down multiple times and was told to back off and he didnt. Persistance can be viewed as stalking, so he needs to chillax. I am hoping that his character grows though. I am still cheering for Ronwoon though because well its Ronwoon. Gosh, he looks like a young Choi Siwon. They def should play brothers in a drama sometime in the future.

Thanks for the weecap!! I’ve been missing watching a drama with your witty and bright weecaps... but... I don’t know I can stick to this one.

I have mixed feelings: I like all four actors and dislike all four leads (maybe Song Ah is the one I like a little bit).

I liked some scenes: HyunSeon and the seat belt, the office mates (I think they can be really good in the drama), HyunSeon and his sisters bonding, and him confessing, because he had the right, and what can I say? It’s really hard for me not to be in LHW’s side, even if his character is cheating (which by the way I think he is not... exactly). But I utterly disliked HyunSeon crossing the line so many times: removing Song-Ah’s lipstick (you don’t touch someone’s lips without consent!!!!!!!!), or him being all testosterone while talking to JaeShin (what the hell was that conversation about tennis, ha, tennis... now you call that tennis!)

This is going melo meets revenge meets makjang and I don’t think I can deal with it...

I’m not really sure if I’ll watch next week, tbh.

I have mixed feelings about these two episodes (leaning towards negative more). I did not find CHS swoony. When he wiped her lipstick, I saw it as violation of her personal space.
I find reason behind BM Lee marrying quite mackjangish and straight out of old movies. Lee Hyun-wook does melancholic well. We can always feel his sadness but I do not find sympathy for him. He has made his bed and now can lie in it. He is deceiving Song-ah knowingly and making her third party. It makes him a total jerk.

I actually liked the first few scenes but by the end of episode 1, I didn't find it swoony and even his actions in the 2nd episode. He forced himself to her by crossing a lot of lines. And not really excited with the fake dating that's about to happen.

I might check out once in awhile since I have no Mon-Tue and I still like the cast but there's that thought of dropping this at any moment.

I'm with most of the commenters above me. Boy how I was looking forward to this one and didn't actually have problems with the acting by all four actors. In another setting and drama I'm sure they would make a very strong ensemble, but the execution and characterisation have made this drama very wanting so far. I find the ML's choices of action very disturbing so far and cannot relate to any of the characters. I feel bad for the second male lead, and would have been able to relate to him if he did not consciously deceive his lady. Well I'm sure that will leave room for growth for all of the characters, but I wish they didn't go with the fake dating. That one crossed the line for me. I still want to stick around, so would check out Ep 3 & 4, but if they keep this characterisation up I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable enough to keep going.

I have yet to watch the second ep but here I am reading this (cause I love spoilers). I might ff watch this just to see where the story leads us.

I went in blind and was quite surprised initially. I actually like Ep 1, until the end. The genre of this show is super confusing. Is is melo? dark melo? revenge makjang? Where is this going?

They are making it hard for me to like Hyun-seung's character. At times he seems so genuine and kind and then he crosses the line (many times). I especially hated the way he treated her when he revealed her bf was cheating. It was confrontational, rude and way out of the line. Amidst all this he also confessed! I get it, he was desperate and cared for her. But this was all so messed up.

Now after Ep 2, I have re-aligned my expectations from this show. I am going to watch next week to see if I can still enjoy this. At least, its clear this is no noona romance.

Rowoon's character in the 1st ep kind of put me off, coz he was always on the borderline between acceptable and unacceptable. It kind of toned down in the 2nd ep, so I'm glad. I really hope that he entire purpose of work for him is not for the FL/ a one-sided crush.
But apart from that I enjoyed the show quite a lot, mainly coz they focused on Won Jinah. I could understand how and why Jinah's character dealt/ dealing with things the way she is.
But still I wish they work a little more on the other 3 main characters as well. Make Hyunseung seem a little less creepy, make Jaeshin a little more sympathetic (he made a choice to continue a relationship even after being forced to marry someone else, I cannot find sympathy in that, there needs to be backstory) and make sure that Hyojoo (Joobin's character) get some psychiatric help (coz she really need it, if she is that dependant on someone else, to the point of taking her own life). And I seriously hope that they use the remaining 14 episodes for that...

I really liked the 2 episodes. I didn't expect that the story would be so fast. We already know the intentions of each character : Song-Ah wants revanche, Hyun-Seung wants to seduce Song-Ah, Hyo-Joo wants Jae-Shin and doesn't care about the way, Jae-Woon wants to be President. What Jae-shin wants it's not clear... How he expected to hide his wedding to Song-Ah?

I think Hyun-Seung took a cruel decision to show to Song-Ah the truth but in the same time, there wasn't a good way to do it. It's hard to talk about something that doesn't really exist because the two protagnists never talked about it. Hyun-Seung showed that he has feelings for her, so just his words wouldn't have been convincing. I don't think he did it for him because he was ready to let them date in secret because she was happy. He did it because the truth itself was ugly.

I think Hyun-Seung crossed some limits and I liked it, not the fact he crossed them but the fact he's not the perfect puppy. I felt like the characters were real from a real story and not from a fair show.

I really like Hyun-Seung's relationships with his sisters. It's rare this kind of relationship, when the siblings don't hit each other :p

What are you expecting with drama with title like that?
I mean no body tell me whether I should put lipstick or not on my lips??
Heck it is my lips what are you going to do about it?? 🤷‍♀️

Is this supposed to be Makjang?
Hyun-seung's behavior is very Makjangy and the story is more Makjang than a romance drama.
It seems like Hyun-seung is thinking about his sunbae 24-7... I can totally imagine him turning into a psycho stalker... (I know Ro-woon won't since he is ML)

I'm also glad to see Ahn Se-ha in here! Hope he had a bigger and more important role than that though.

I can now watch this on one ogf my televisions (the one with a third HDMI port).

Over the weekend- and with the help of my son and his smartphone- I finished setting up my Firestick and was able to 'sideload' the iQIYI app (because Firestick is an Android device).

I am looking forward to watching this.

The fake dating really feels like coming out of the left field. If show's going to do that, kinda wish it had taken the comedic route, I'd probably find it an easier watch... Now it feels like Hyun-seung is taking too much advantage of the bad situation to get to Song-ah, it's a bit of an unhealthy start for a relationship.

Also find him very forward about touching her lips and stuff, but will hold judgment due to the "in medias res" and not knowing yet what kind of bond they forge on the training days. She seems to trust him enough, even if she doesn't see him as a guy at all, LOL at the seatbelt scene.

Will watch more of the show, probably with FF button for the angsty bits, if only to check the adorableness level of the Director + Middle Sis. (Love Lee Gyu-han!)

It's been unimpressive. Like someone commented already I disliked all leads in the two episodes ( with a tinge of sympathy towards LHW. Just can't help it !!!!!) . And it doesn't help that the ML has already crossed so many lines. Esp the lipstick scene. Imagine doing that in real life at your workplace. The only positive thing was the bond between ML and his sisters. Also since the cheating trope is already out will there be enough story to survive 14 episodes?? I have my doubts on that.

I started this with low expectations, so the 1st episode seemed nice, except the lip-touching.

Then... what happened in ep. 2??
Beyond all the things other Beanies wrote, I found very rude the way HS ordered SA to meet him after work, and then to get off the car. Like, really??

And the mum, the marriage to avoid a suicide (??), the glass of water from the preview seem so old style...

I was surprised that Hyun-seung showed Song-ah the proof of cheating.
I have never seen a main lead being practical and efficient? like that at the 2nd episode... Isn't that usually something an evil/mean side character would do?

I have only watched ep 1, people, and let me tell you: I didn't like it... sadly.
I don't know for sure... I would say mixed feelings, like many of you have stated as well.
I don't hate the drama or the leads, but I don't like any of them either. I also didn't like Rowoon trying to remove sumbae's lipstick by directly touching her lips. She has maintained a drawn line between them. They don't have such trust... I know that was written because of sticking to the drama's name, but I didn't like it.
Let's see what happens later. I hope I have the strength to watch the next episode.

When I first heard about this show I thought that it was formulaic but that is OK if it is well done. And up to a point it is. But I think that the differences may be what makes this show so worthwhile.

This big difference is the character of Hyun-seung. Our ML is not the standard model ML. Many have leady noted how inappropriate it was for him to touch Song-ah's lips. Yep, you're right- no argument there. But it does show us that our young man has a good heart- and very very rough edges. He acts before he thinks, and while those actions stem from a good heart they can still be disconcerting and, yes, inappropriate.

This explains why he revealed the truth about Song-ah's boyfriend the way that he did. He did not just want Song-ah just to know the truth- he wanted her to know it effectively, so that there would be no chance of her being vulnerable to any future attempts by her boyfriend to suck her back into a relationship. He knows that Song-ah will be very angry at him and that it will probably preclude her dating him BUT he cares enough to pay that price - being effective is more important than trying to lay clever groundwork for a future relationship. Do not forget that Song-ah is in a relationship with her boss- and the potential consequences of that could be disastrous for her- so extracting her from that relationship quickly and above all completely is very important. Being effective is more important than being nice at this moment, even if he must pay a price for it- and so he acts accordingly, and it works. Of course Song-ah is just as mad at him as at her ex-boyfriend and she is right- but he is right also.

I like the character of Hyun-seung- he has real flaws and a lot to learn.
Of course he has his sisters to be his wing-women and provide guidance- and it looks like he will need all the guidance that he can get. But that is the sort of detail that adds depth to a show.

I did not see any chemistry between leads .I guess we will see a love triangle but I don't think main female lead is enough to carry it! The tone was totally different at second episode .It was almost like watching a different drama.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought it was a line he was crossing when he wiped off her lipstick. I was thinking in my head “Is this something only stupidly attractive people could get away with? Or was she just so shocked in that moment?”

That being said, I still enjoyed both the first episodes. I’ve been a huge Won Jin-ah fan since Just Between Lovers, and her last project I watched nearly broke me (Melting Me Softly was SO bad). The characters seem flawed, but interesting, and I love the ML’s relationship with his sisters. Then there’s also characters I already dislike...a lot. Her mother really rubbed me the wrong way and seems overbearing in just the worst ways. The mother from ‘Something in the Rain’ was specifically why I dropped that show she was so awful.

I’m watching next week at least to see how it continues on. It’s rare I’ll drop a show opening week (though this has been a double edged sword in the past) just because I think most things can be salvaged. This definitely has potential to go either way, so I’ll be checking out at least another couple episodes.

I love Rowoon but this character CHS is too stalker-ish even though his intention is for YSA's best interest

I liked the two opening episodes a lot (apart from the weird editing). Only I didn't find them cute. Was I supposed to find them cute?

I have a high threshold for characters that are unlikable in the opening 2 episodes (hello character growth! we do have 14 more episodes to fill) and all our main 4 are deeply selfish in their own way.

This is what they're thinking:
Hyung-Seung - if I show my crush that her bf is cheating on her in the most painful way possible, she'll leave him and will love me instead (that's not how this works)
Song-Ah - my mother doesn't want me dating anybody so I'll just date someone for 2 years behind her back and then we'll get married and it's all fine (that's not how this works)
Jae-Shin - I'm going to marry this other girl for REASONS but I'm not telling my gf because I love her and this is going to be fine (that's not how this works)
Hyo-Joo - I'm going to commit suicide because then the guy I've got a crush on will marry me and it's not about how you get someone, what matters is that you get them (that's not how this works)

So all four are deluded in what they believe, and that they are equally flawed & deluded balances the show for me. Kudos to the four actors for making me feel some sympathy towards all of them. I think they all have a lot of growing (up) to do and I'm willing to stick along to see how this plays out.

*note to self: if I've misread this drama and some of those behaviours were not supposed to be problematic - drop like a hot potato *

As a side note, I much prefer the title that other sites use She Would Never Know . It points towards all those misbelieves.

I was reminded of our conversation about office romance, @leetennant ☺️ it got me wondering if this drama was on your radar because you would feel so strongly against it, too.

Amazing how perspective changes everything. Few years ago, I was in love with workplace romances as a college kid. Now, imagining workplace romances with coworkers (both hoobaes and bosses) makes me shudder. I revisited what's wrong with secretary Kim last week and it hit differently this time around now that I have a few bosses of my own. Was gonna give sunbae a shot, but think I'll skip.

That scene in the wedding organiser's place was excruciating, and it must have been ten times worse to have her junior staging and witnessing the whole thing with her. There were so many other options! All of them would have left her with more dignity. Honestly, by the time that was done I didn't even find KR handsome! And if any man wiped my lipstick off with a finger, he would be speaking in a high, squeaky voice for a VERY long time. Shame, this had such promising preview!

Where can I watch this?

I was living for the glares Hyun Seung was giving the BM. I wasn't a huge fan of the way he revealed the cheating to Song ah. It was also interesting to see that he and his sister knew it was a cruel way to do it but thought the pros outweighed the cons. It was honestly probably the fastest way for her to accept it, but doesn't mean it was the best way. It'll be interesting to see how they play up the fake dating since Hyung Seung has already confessed. Anyways I am greatly looking forward to next week. I like the sister dynamic and the director being interested in Hyun Seung's sister will add some laughs.

Against the wise advice of @mindy, I watched episode one of this. Dear reader, I hated it. Can we please be done with romanticizing creepy paternalistic male leads "protecting" the object of their "affections" by stalking and isolating them?

Also, lipstick samples are gross in the best of time, but in covid times? No, just no.

Anyways, I'm not going to bother watching episode two because I haven't been this turned off from a drama since, well, Melting Me Softly.

Oh, and the editing was weird and confusing and off-putting.

I agree with a lot of the criticisms of the other Beanies but... am I the only one disappointed that this is totally not a Noona Romance drama?
Like, I don't need them to have a crazy age gap or anything (especially not a creepy one) but wasn't her whole reason for not seeing him as an option supposed to be his age?
Because... I'm pretty sure he said he was only one year younger than her??