Hotel del Luna: Episode 5
by Sunny
Our hero is finally settling into his new role just as everyone else seems determined to send him away. Well, maybe not everyone. Despite all the verbal barbs, the bond between our hotelier and his enigmatic employer only seems to grow stronger. The question remains, is this a bond that’s meant to last or be broken?
EPISODE 5 RECAP
In a desperate effort to keep Chan-sung from looking at the guest in Room 13, Man-wol pulls him into a kiss. When they part, Man-wol’s attention is back on the guest, who snickers wickedly from the wardrobe. Man-wol explains that Chan-sung will go crazy if he looks at her, and orders him to run when the door opens.
Not needing to be told twice, Chan-sung bolts for the door as soon as it swings open. The guest gives chase, but Chan-sung manages to slip through and slam it shut before she can reach him. She bangs angrily at the door before turning on Man-wol, who coolly apologizes for the disturbance. Man-wol manages to convince the guest to return to the wardrobe, but as she turns to leave, she hears her own voice echo from the wardrobe, calling Chan-sung’s name.
Man-wol scoffs at the guest, informing her that Chan-sung is too much of a coward for that trick to work… only for the door to fling open and Chan-sung reappear. The guest leaps from the wardrobe and Chan-sung rushes to pull a stunned Man-wol into a protective embrace. Ignoring the couple, the guest makes a break for the door and zips past Bartender Kim and guest manager Seo-hee on her way out of the hotel.
Chan-sung continues to hold Man-wol tightly, his eyes firmly squeezed shut, until Man-wol assures him the guest is gone. He releases her and shakily admits he’d caught a glimpse of the guest before asking if she’s okay… and then breaks into a laugh, revealing he’s only teasing. Man-wol’s face isn’t amused and Chan-sung realizes she wasn’t lying about the sight of Room 13’s guest driving people mad.
Cowering behind Man-wol, Chan-sung asks if the guest is really gone and whines that Man-wol should’ve been able to handle it. She snaps that she had before he’d run back in and left the door open. She stalks away, leaving Chan-sung dumbfounded and unaware of the amused smile tugging at her lips.
Chan-sung returns the incense to Bartender Kim, apologizing for having done it incorrectly and upsetting the guest. Bartender Kim waves it off, instead blaming Seo-hee for not managing the guests better. Chan-sung doesn’t seem entirely convinced but he politely excuses himself. Turning to each other, Bartender Kim and Seo-hee are stunned Chan-sung didn’t notice their plot and agree to postpone bringing in their fourth candidate for hotel general manager.
Meanwhile, front desk attendant, Hyun-joong, is already meeting with said fourth candidate, Kim Yoo-na, as she leaves school that evening. She belatedly realizes Hyun-joong is a ghost when her classmates walk through him and the other girls whisper nervously about the rumor that Yoo-na is possessed by their dead classmate, unaware that it’s true.
The girls are further spooked when Yoo-na’s foot slips on the steps outside and she’s suspended in midair. They run away screaming as Hyun-joong, invisible to human eyes, pulls Yoo-na to safety in a heroic fashion. Yoo-na demands to know why he did that, snapping that letting her fall would’ve looked more natural.
Yoo-na stomps off and Hyun-joong follows, grumbling at being chastised for helping. She suddenly turns and brandishes a cross, noting that regular ghosts can’t interact with humans. Hyun-joong gently tells her that he’s a spirit that has the right to linger with a place to belong and even a job. He tells Yoo-na he works at the same place as the people that gave her the body she’s using, Hotel del Luna.
Her interest is piqued when Hyun-joong adds that he came to fetch her as the fourth candidate, but just then a text rolls in from Bartender Kim saying their plans are currently on hold. Yoo-na is disappointed and moreso when Hyun-joong doesn’t add his contact information to her phone. She storms off, but then her phone goes off and she smiles to see a text from Hyun-joong.
Upon returning to the hotel, Hyun-joong congratulates Chan-sung on retaining his sanity. Chan-sung pouts that it seems everyone was banking on him losing his mind and Hyun-joong’s awkward laugh only cements his suspicions. Meanwhile, Bartender Kim and guest manager Seo-hee pitch alternative schemes to drive Chan-sung away, but Man-wol declares he’s here to stay.
The pair anxiously remind Man-wol about the tree changing, but Man-wol points out that Mago sent him for a reason. She waves off their worries about the tree blossoming, daring the flowers to force her to cross over. After she’s gone, Bartender Kim gripes over her mood swings while Seo-hee is just thankful Chan-sung hasn’t picked up on their scheming…
Meanwhile, Chan-sung confronts Man-wol about his suspicions and is appalled when she breezily confirms the plot to drive him crazy. Chan-sung whines that he’d thought they were his friends and Man-wol offers to reprimand everyone, but Chan-sung barks that she was in on it too. Man-wol just gripes that he always asks questions he already knows the answers to.
Realizing she’s missing an earring, Man-wol orders Chan-sung to check the floor. Annoyed at her flippancy, Chan-sung kicks it under a cabinet instead. He demands to know why they tried to drive him out and Man-wol explains that the tree changed after he arrived and everyone is nervous that their time here is almost up.
Chan-sung asks why Man-wol saved him, then. She admits she wasn’t going to… but then a leaf changed her mind. Plucking his dream leaf from his pocket, Chan-sung asks if that’s what she meant. Man-wol agrees that a part of her the size of a leaf is what changed her mind and Chan-sung proudly asks if he won her over with just that.
Annoyed at his continued questioning of things he already knows, Man-wol barks at him to find her earring. Chan-sung cheekily wonders if finding it would be worth another leaf and Man-wol snaps at him not to bother. Her cynical nature has Chan-sung questioning whether it’s a product of old age but Man-wol says she’s always been that way.
Chan-sung says she’s sweet in his dreams, noting her affection for Yeon-woo (her bandit comrade). Man-wol’s face falls at the mention of his name and she asks if Chan-sung had seem him too. Chan-sung confirms he has and Man-wol bitterly asks if this time he thinks he might be Yeon-woo. Admitting it crossed his mind, Chan-sung says he doesn’t think it’s likely.
“Yeon-woo is the one who loved me the most,” Man-wol whispers, “So do you love me too?” A heavy silence follows and finally Chan-sung says firmly that he doesn’t. Man-wol dismisses him and disappears into her room. Sitting on her bed, Man-wol flashes back and now we see the person who’d promised to build her a house out of a tree was Yeon-woo.
Man-wol teases that she won’t live with him, but Yeon-woo argues she’s getting older and he doesn’t want her living in a tent when she’s a granny. She points out their livelihood was high-risk and she has no delusions of living a long life. Yeon-woo claims the fortune teller predicted he’d live 100 years and offers to give his time to Man-wol. She says he’ll die, then, and Yeon-woo promises he’ll happily die for her.
In the present, silent tears streak down Man-wol’s face and Chan-sung stares at her closed door for a moment before heading home. Elsewhere, a couple watches anxiously as a shaman prepares a red pouch for a recently deceased young woman, promising the couple to marry her off in the afterlife. As the couple release the pouch on a floating lantern, they tearfully pray a good man finds it so the woman, Su-min, won’t be alone.
Su-min’s spirit watches anxiously. Unwilling to marry a stranger, she turns and runs. Chan-sung runs into Seo-hee on his way out and she notes that he’s taking his job more seriously. He admits that he opened his heart to someone and that he’s really a softie that returns favors tenfold. Despite his smile, Seo-hee interprets it as a threat to get back at them for Room 13.
Outside, Chan-sung meets Su-min’s spirit and she pleads for help before passing out… only to end up on Man-wol’s couch, leaning on Chan-sung’s shoulder. Fuming, Man-wol demands why Chan-sung continues to bring guests directly to her. She tries to separate them and balks when Chan-sung assures her it’s fine. Instead, he fills her in on the ghost wedding.
Man-wol doesn’t think anything of it and says that it’s really for the living and suggests Su-min go along with it, adding the hotel provides a wedding package. Displeased, Chan-sung offers to take Su-min to her room, scooping her up bridal style much to Man-wol’s chagrin.
Man-wol and Seo-hee inspect their wedding hall and Man-wol gets a mischievous glint in her eye as she relays Su-min’s expensive dress indicates a wealthy family. She muses she’ll need a new dress, accessories, purse, and shoes… and sing-songs that Chan-sung will have to hurry and get the money from the painting soon.
Chan-sung gets up the next morning for some PPL coffee and a chat with his roommate, Sanchez. He admits he didn’t sleep well since he was waiting for someone in his dreams. Sanchez guesses Chan-sung’s ex, but he clarifies that he was actually expecting the ex of a woman he knows… maybe two exes.
Sanchez doesn’t know what he means, but says that he did miss a phone call and Chan-sung almost does a spit-take when Sanchez refers to Man-wol familiarly. Alarmed, Chan-sung questions whether Man-wol threw a fit at him calling her by name, but Sanchez says she agreed to do the same with him and that they even follow each other on social media. Hee.
Chan-sung is further baffled when Sanchez muses that Man-wol is really nice, but chalks it up to the fact that Sanchez is wealthy. Meanwhile, Man-wol continues to plan for the wedding and is angered to hear that Chan-sung has gone out to find the red pouch. Furious, Man-wol storms out to find him.
At the park, Chan-sung wanders around looking for the pouch. Sanchez offers to help, but Chan-sung quickly declines. Instead of the pouch, though, Chan-sung finds Man-wol. He knows she’s not there for a picnic like she claims, so Man-wol snaps that she’s there to see him and declares she doesn’t want him looking for the pouch.
He guesses Man-wol doesn’t want him getting married, and confidently says that she’ll take care of it. Man-wol snorts at his brazen attitude and pulls out a pair of opera binoculars. Looking through them, she sees Sanchez and it’s probably safe to assume she facilitates his bike crashing next to the pouch.
Sanchez makes it home and opens the pouch only to find a red string wrapped around his finger. He follows it with his eyes and passes out when Su-min materializes at the other end. Chan-sung returns home to find Su-min there and Sanchez huddled in a corner, too scared after seeing Su-min to move. Before he can do much, Chan-sung’s phone rings and the caller is the couple that had the pouch made.
Chan-sung meets the couple at the hotel and takes them to Man-wol, who happily sells them on the wedding package for their daughter. When asked about the groom, Man-wol replies that they’re forcing someone to marry against their will, so it’d be awkward to meet him. The parents reluctantly agree and entrust Man-wol to plan the best wedding money can buy. She promises to conduct a ceremony that satisfies everyone. Hmm.
Afterwards, Man-wol cooes over the black credit card the parents had given her. Frustrated, Chan-sung demands to know her plan and is upset when Man-wol simply replies, a wedding. He argues that Sanchez is wigging out and Man-wol says that’s all the more reason to get the ceremony over with and send Su-min on her way, assuring him that Sanchez will be fine.
The man in question, however, is currently too afraid to even go to the bathroom and takes advantage of an antique vase. Meanwhile, Man-wol goes full-on Breakfast at Tiffany’s and I love this so much. Chan-sung joins her and is appalled to realize her browsing is for her personal collection and not the wedding at all.
He balks that the parents gave her the card to spend on the wedding. Man-wol says she is and that the parents will feel more comfortable the more she spends. Chan-sung suggests they return the card and just burn the pouch, but Man-wol warns him that doing so will just leave Su-min attached to Sanchez for eternity, unable to pass over.
Chan-sung asks why Man-wol can’t just sever that tie, but Man-wol frowns that she’s not a deity and doing so is very difficult — it’s easier to just go through with the ceremony. Unsatisfied with that response, Chan-sung sets out to find Mago with the business card she’d given him. He locates the medicine shop easily enough, but the woman running the shop isn’t Mago… but her sister.
Another sister comes in and they all look so similar, Chan-sung assumes they’re triplets, but the youngest says there’s way more than just 3. She has Chan-sung tell her his problem and she agrees with Man-wol that it’s easiest just to go through with the wedding. However, she does suggest he could try finding a dead groom among the hotel guests in place of Sanchez.
She giggles that this way the bride can go with her groom to the afterlife. Chan-sung agrees that it seems like a good bet and on his way out, the first sister offers him a medicinal tea to help with his sleeping problem.
Back at the hotel, the employees help Chan-sung round up some grooms for Su-min to choose from. When it comes time to pick, however, she hands the pouch to Chan-sung saying she wants to go alone to the afterlife so either he takes it or she continues with the original plan of marrying Sanchez. Unable to think of an alternative, Chan-sung takes the pouch.
Hyun-joong relays the news to Man-wol and she orders him to get Chan-sung’s replacement ready. Meanwhile, Chan-sung waits nervously in a tux. He pumps himself up but when he tries to leave, the doors open into a bedroom instead. A bride sits on the bed and when she removes her veil, it’s Man-wol from her warrior days. Cold fury burns in her eyes and blood drips down her hand onto the floor.
She stands and walks towards him and Chan-sung asks if she’s getting married… but that was only a vision and the current Man-wol snaps that he’s the one getting married. Chan-sung starts to say he must’ve been dreaming again, but Man-wol cuts him off to growl at him for daring to get married without her permission.
Chan-sung doesn’t understand the problem and snaps back that she should’ve just helped from the get-go when the bride said she didn’t want to get married. With a sigh, Man-wol explains that the pouch holds the desperate wish of the dead… not the living. At the same time, Su-min is visited by the younger of Mago’s sisters and presented with a gift and the advice that people get married to be happy.
Man-wol tells Chan-sung she’ll handle it and he wonders how since they can’t destroy the pouch. With a wicked smile, Man-wol says they’ll just bring the groom Su-min actually wants. A young man sits outside a hospital room, rubbing the ring on his finger. Yoo-na stalks up to him and holds out a picture of him with Su-min and tells him he has to come now or his girlfriend is going to marry another man.
Yoo-na leads him to the hotel while Man-wol explains the change of plans to Su-min, although neither woman looks happy. Chan-sung passes the pouch to the boyfriend and he walks into the chapel. Up in the bar, Man-wol tells the hotel trio that when the ceremony is over, that groom will die and join Su-min in the afterlife.
She wonders if Chan-sung realized and from the way we see him racing through the hotel, it’s likely he has. Man-wol explains that the couple facilitating the ghost wedding aren’t the bride’s parents… but the groom’s. We see that the groom is actually in a coma and that the parents feared Su-min would take their son, so they arranged for her to be married.
Chan-sung pounds on the chapel door, begging Su-min not to go through with it. The couple lean in to kiss, but Su-min pulls back and she tells her groom to run. He’s confused so she morphs into a terrifying ghost to scare him away. The groom drops the pouch as he runs from the chapel and Su-min watches sadly as the red string stretches further as the groom races down the halls.
Su-min holds up a pair of sewing scissors and we see that they were the gift from Mago’s sister. She severs the string and as it falls limp, her boyfriend wakes up from his coma. “I love you,” Su-min whispers, “Please be happy.” Out in the lobby, Yoo-na tells Hyun-joong that she wants to start working immediately. He tells her they still have Chan-sung, so she demands they start training her as an intern.
At home, Sanchez cleans his vase, apologizing for what he’d done. A woman walks up to the house and Sanchez seems surprised as he identifies her as Mi-ra. She smiles and says she’s here to see Chan-sung.
At the tunnel to the afterlife, Su-min hands her scissors to Chan-sung, thanking him for helping her sever the tie so she could pass on. Man-wol guesses that Mago’s sister gave her those scissors and wonders how she came to the hotel without her noticing. Reaper informs her that it was Chan-sung that sought out Mago’s help.
Man-wol snorts that they’re all helping him now, but Reaper corrects that Mago is helping her. “He’ll be the one to see you off,” Reaper says. After sending Su-min off, Chan-sung tells Man-wol that he used to feel proud sending guests from the hotel, but now he feels lonely. Man-wol tells him it’s because he knows he won’t see them again.
She suddenly tells him that he’s doing a good job and that Mago chose well. Chan-sung says Mago entrusted Man-wol to him so that the leaves grow and flowers bloom. Man-wol asks if he still dreams of her and we see that the vision of Man-wol on the bed had continued to show a man enter and Man-wol grip the hilt of her sword… though we don’t see his face.
Presently, Man-wol tells Chan-sung to take care of her in his dreams and then see her off. Because that’s what Mago wants. “I’ll become your last customer…” Man-wol says, “because I like you.” She tells him not to feel lonely when she goes.
COMMENTS
I’m not sure how each episode manages to be more compelling than the last, but it does and I’m all for it. This episode probably had the least flashbacks so far and yet I’m more invested than ever in the tragic past. I’d be lying if I said I’m not totally bouncing between which man from Man-wol’s past was her lover. But maybe it doesn’t even matter. Whether the men loved her or she loved them or in what way, those ties were significant enough to leave a scar that has lasted for centuries.
Romantic or not, Man-wol cared deeply for Yeon-woo and it’s hard to say if her sorrow now is over a lost love, guilt because he made good on his promise to give his life for her, or both. Right now I’m wondering if Chung-myung loved her and things went south from there. His expression when he saw her with Yeon-woo was a little darker than I’d like, but we just can’t know without more clues and I’m curious who was the man in the bedroom with Man-wol. Was it Chung-myung? Or someone else entirely?
Chan-sung will need to take a lot more naps to unravel this mystery, although the “medicinal tea” Mago’s sister gave him seems to be opening his mind to conscious visions as well. It’ll be interesting to see if it has a lasting effect and I’m excited to see more of the deity sisters. I’m also glad to have Yoo-na come back around. I had a feeling we hadn’t seen the last of her and the hints at cotton candy romance in store with her and Hyun-joong was especially fun. So far, Hotel del Luna is killing it and although my time filling in on the recaps is done, I’ll definitely still be watching.
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Tags: Bae Hae-sun, Hotel del Luna, IU, Pyo Ji-hoon, Shin Jung-geun, Yeo Jin-gu
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1 Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 5:27 PM
Great recap! Thank you! And I so agree with everything you said. This was by far my favorite episode. For the first time for me, the chemistry is present and accounted for, the direction had no hiccups of any kind, the ghost of the week story had a fantastic twist, and will likely be reflected in the main arc, and the overall arc became even more compelling. What's more, almost every scene, if you were to isolate it, like Audrey Hepburn, or the bellboy scenes, are just brilliant in and of themselves. Greatly enjoying this.
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lemoncello
July 30, 2019 at 8:12 PM
My favorite scene was Man-wol acted like Holly Golightly... IU just looked like Audrey Hepburn! :)
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FlyingTool
July 30, 2019 at 8:56 PM
The most attention getting was the bedroom scene. It implies so much!
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2 Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 5:46 PM
I posted this mythology post at soompi so am posting it here too.
In addition to other myths, the Hong Sisters are very pointedly using The Golden Bough and its description of the Diana ritual at Nemi as inspiration. The Golden Bough is a book written by James Frazier that tries to show that a particular myth and ritual of a dying but reborn king/queen, correlating to the harvest, can be found in myths everywhere in the world.
The golden bough itself was a branch from a tree that allowed heroes of the past to enter the underworld. This is the branch - variously also symbolic of a quilled pen, an arrow, or simply a branch - that cuts through the moon brooches that the Hotel del Luna employees wear.
Man Weol, whose name means full moon, who identifies herself continuously with the moon from Moon River in Breakfast at Tiffany's to a space mission to the moon to actually saying I am the moon or the moon belongs to me, is inspired by Diana, Roman goddess of the moon. Other moon goddesses go into her portrayal too but I'm saying Diana in particular because of her ritual, which I'll get to in a moment.
Diana is always portrayed as a young virgin huntress, a tripartite goddess - of the woods and wild animals, of the moon, and of the underworld. She sometimes also absorbed the qualities of Laverna, goddess of thieves and outlaws because they operated at night. After we initially see MW in the first episode, we next see her with drawn bow - the archer, the huntress, the thief. We also see her affiliated with wild animals almost in the first ghost case - the tiger, which she returns to its home. We know she is affiliated with the underworld or afterlife, just as Diana was, a guide at the crossroads between life and death.
But the tree is where this gets really interesting. From the most ancient of days, there was a forest grove at Nemi in Italy called Diana's grove where a real life ritual took place. One tree in particular (from which the golden bough is broken) is actually a stand in for Diana herself. A priest called the King in the Woods is symbolically married to this tree, is Diana's knight and protector as well as her priest, and is killed by his replacement.
So I'm just going to enumerate how closely the Hong Sisters have tied in the hiring of Chan Sung as manager for Man Well to the replacement of a new priest-king for Diana:
1. A branch from the tree must be broken, signalling a challenger. This is what CS's father did unbeknownst to himself. (Also, CS's father was a thief - his proper goddess is Diana/Laverna. Lastly, that snake that followed him - snakes are almost universally a symbol of rebirth because they shed their skins. CS's father does die and is reborn - and the ritual at Nemi is all about resurrection)
2. The challenger must be a runaway slave. This is such a unique part of the Diana ritual that was enacted for hundreds of years. Now where would you find one of those in the modern age? ...
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3 Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 5:51 PM
Continued.
2. The challenger must be a runaway slave. Now where would you find one of those in the modern age? The Hong Sisters make Man Weol actually buy CS from his dad! Not only that, but when the time comes, CS actually ran away! He was gone longer than his 20 year contractual promise. When he finally takes up his position, he could technically be called a runaway slave.
3. The challenger kills the current priest-king ( manager) in single combat. CS does not do so, but nevertheless the Hong Sisters make sure to show us that Manager Oh dies. He does not retire as he wanted to do; he has to die before CS can take up his position.
4. The new King of the Woods (manager) is technically married to the tree, which is Diana herself.
I also identify Ma Go quite strongly with the goddess Hecate, another many-faced goddess like Diana. But as Ma Go says, there are more than 3 of her (she is not merely the 3 Fates), so while I believe the Hong Sisters are drawing very strongly upon Diana and Hecate for inspiration, they are also telling us , as Frazier does in The Golden Bough, that these stories have echoes and reverberations across cultures.
Still, I don't think we can go wrong by looking at the men in the goddess Diana's life to seek clues as to the roles Yeon Woo and Historical Hottie might have played in MW's past.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 6:06 PM
Just to add to this post. A Captain of the Guards to a Princess would be in a very similar position to a Warrior-Priest to a Goddess, or a Manager to a Hotelier lol. Things are getting even more "entangled" for me because not only are the men tangling up, but the women may start to do so too, and MW dressed in what seems like someone else's wedding outfit, I'm guessing the Princess's, only serves to emphasize that.
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OldLawyer
July 30, 2019 at 11:51 PM
This is a nice speculation and interesting. We would know more if we knew that the Hong Sisters had read THE GOLDEN BOUGH. But I would also note that in fact in Roman religion Diana was worshipped and looked to for a completely different purpose: She was the Goddess of Childbirth. In fact, she was worshipped more in this function than in any other. I suspect that IU's character draws even more inspiration from the Moon Goddess of Traditional Korean religion. The Goddess Ma-go and her sisters are definitely more out of that tradition.
But you may be right in Diana being at least an inspiration here- because she in fact often acts in the selfish and self-centered way that is often how Diana was portrayed in myth.
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Barbrey
July 31, 2019 at 12:15 AM
The Golden Bough might not be authoritative anymore but it's still the most well known work of comparative mythology, particularly in literature, in the west. I'd be very surprised if the sisters hadn't read some of it, with their well-known interest in mythology, but the most convincing to me is the actual ritual, not the myth but the real life ritual described in The Golden Bough and their specific attempt to mimic it in their own way to fit with their story.. I've given some examples, there are more. You can read the excerpt yourself online from the Golden Bough if you require more convincing. Also, I thought I had been careful to say the myth allusions were not limited to Diana, but perhaps you skipped that. The post was long.
Re childbirth, that will possibly come up later in an episode, and Diana did have that role to a certain degree (she is both a virgin and fertility goddess), but her tripartite roles are goddess of the wild/hunt, the moon, and the underworld, and those are the roles of which the Golden Bough treats, and it is the Golden Bough I believe was used as primary inspiration.
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OldLawyer
July 31, 2019 at 6:50 AM
I did understand that you were suggesting that the Diana of THE GOLDEN BOUGH was just one possible influence. And in fact the behavior of IU's character does match fairly well with the behavior that was ascribed to Diana in myth.
I was actually quite impressed by your post. It actually demonstrates the cultural impact of THE GOLDEN BOUGH: While it has largely been discarded as Anthropology it has had a huge impact in literature. You were simply suggesting that this drama was another example of that impact and you may very well be right.
fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 10:35 AM
Dear @barbrey , I was looking for something like this. Hong Sister's Dramas are full of references, innuendos and mythology, so I feel like lots of jokes are still flying over my head. Your thorough post serves to alleviate some of my ignorance into this lore. Thanks a lot!!!.
Zora
July 31, 2019 at 11:02 AM
Oh wow! Thank you for the detailed theory..I love mythology! This makes me look forward to upcoming episodes 😊
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FlyingTool
July 30, 2019 at 6:18 PM
Wonderful write up. Thanks!
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growingbeautifully
July 30, 2019 at 6:37 PM
Thanks @barbrey for taking the time to elucidate the links with Diana. Yes the Hong Sisters really do take their cues and inspiration and run with it, and then add in twists of their own. This enables me to read more into the the signs and the clues. I really appreciate this! 😍
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 7:19 PM
Thanks @hebang and @growingbeautifully
Took classes in Comparative Myth years ago and LOVE it when I spot the allusions, and shows that plant them. Feel like such a Sherlock!
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ash27
July 30, 2019 at 8:01 PM
How interesting; thanks for the detailed comparison! I'm not that well-versed in mythology, so I would've had no idea.
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shach
July 30, 2019 at 11:44 PM
That's one great write up, but I don't think Hong Sister went that deep, plus I would think that first they would draw from Korean mythology, Ma Go is connected more to Samsin (three spirits) goddess of fate and childbirth than to Hecate.
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Barbrey
July 31, 2019 at 12:23 AM
Ma Go is very likely connected to Samsin, but her sisters make a point of saying they are many more than three. The three fates are also d dwestern and we actually see the sisters knitting plus they have the scissors so we've got an echo there, and maybe in Korean too?, but the reason I say Hecate is because she was the goddess of the three fates, and the face of all those other witchy women related to the underworld. All these things echo across cultures so I might recognize some, you others.
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shach
July 31, 2019 at 1:37 AM
Well, they could just alluded to goddesses, as Korean mythology is not linear as Greek one, but assuming that just beacuse something is similar, it must be the same is simply wrong especially when we talk about different culture.
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Barbrey
July 31, 2019 at 2:00 AM
That's not what I said. But whatever. I have no doubt about the allusions I have mentioned, and did my best to share with the community because I know some are interested. If you want to call ethnocentrism because I think the Hong Sisters are drawing inspiration from western, as well as eastern, mythology, then so be it.
fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 11:15 AM
Dear @shach and @barbrey , I have this idea that we human beings have basically elected the same solutions for the same problems again and again. Those are the solutions most attuned to our nature.
On the other hand I have also this feeling that we also drink from basically the same culture. If you like, this link is about the oldest fairy tale:
https://curiosity.com/topics/the-smith-and-the-devil-is-the-worlds-oldest-fairy-tale-curiosity/
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong in putting into the table your knowledge since it is always enriching, worst case scenario you could be wrong... but still have enriched the community with your knowledge. Also, if you don't know yourself you could never have the basis to understand another person, let alone other culture.
Because, like the ghosts in this Drama (and in Master's Sun), they are just people like you and me at the end of the day.
Dear @shach , if you have more information on the Korean Lore side, please could you share?. From the little bit of Mago article in Wikipedia, the lore in this Drama is extremely reduced... so I am genuinely interested. Hong Sisters assume you are familiar with the lore, so I feel like lots of jokes are flying over my head.
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It is most unfortunate that the state of the world is like this. I am not into cultural appropiation, but all into cultural appreciation. Sometimes this "cultural appropiation" business reeks to me like a totalitarian effort to differentiate and create sharp lines between people and cultures. And believe me, if you let them, they will get into your head. From that, to make those differences malignant is just one step.
I live in a totalitarian regime just because a group of people invented the lie that poverty was because other group of people stole from them, and not because the people with more privileges usually made better decisions like studying vs partying, having children after going to college with a good partner instead of when having 15 with the person that catched their fancy in the party, and have as many children you could educate/keep properly. Then Hugo Chávez came and exploited that lie. The results are plain to see worldwide.
Sorry for the rant, @shach , IT IS NOT A PERSONA ATTACK ON YOU. Is just that I see this (and other) totalitarian nonsense, and it is my duty to warn people against it, when I see it.
Even if it makes me unpopular.
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Anyways, thanks for expressing yourselves, and sorry if I misunderstood the situation
Peace.
PD: my enquiry about people expanding on this Lore still stands ;D .
sph_7
July 31, 2019 at 5:05 PM
I agree with @shach not because of enthocentlrism. Simply because I know Hong Sisters ain’t that deep and haven’t shown interest in western mythology. I mean they didn’t even spellcheck the title.😅
fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 8:51 PM
@geliguolu , it seems like my little theory about Korean people having a hard time learning Spanish has gone places ;) .
Personally I wouldn't disregard the depth of their writing nor their cultural level so much, but alas... you could be right and we may be overthinking all this...
But this is FUN!!! =D .
sph_7
July 31, 2019 at 9:42 PM
@fgb4877 I’m just saying, for Hong Sisters, they are good at writing dramatic fantasies but are hardly viewed as diligent researchers that other screenwriters are known for. I would consider them successful fanfic authors. Rather than looking for coincidences in mythology, I see a lot of Man Wol’s story coming from classic East Asian fairytales. Her millennial punishment metaphorically confined in a tree, waiting for a sincere soul whisper to free and change her attitude is like a romanticized version of Monkey King who was punished by heaven to stay under a mountain for 500 years waiting for Tang Sanzang to free him and reform him. With this analogy you can even see the parallel personalities. Like how impulsive and arrogant Man Wol acts towards everyone and how she uses her special powers to succumb ghosts like Monkey handling monk-hungry goblins. Our purist intellect Chan Sung is always trusting, forgiving, sometimes annoyingly preachy and wussy is the face of ghost, just like Samjang, like by the books.
fgb4877
August 1, 2019 at 8:55 AM
@geliguolu , thanks for your post. I did read the abreviated version of Journey to the West, Sir Arthur Waley's "Monkey". Didn't link the two stories, and it would be awfully funny for them retelling her previous work "Hwayugi" again but with a twist (that would be lazy) and us falling for it all over again.
I hope they succeed this time (their last two Dramas weren't as compelling as, say, "Master's Sun"), the devil is in the details.
drabea
July 27, 2022 at 8:47 PM
This post is to replier sph_7 , July 31, 2019 at 5:05 PM, which isn't showing a "Reply" option under their comment, RE: " I know Hong Sisters ain’t that deep and haven’t shown interest in western mythology. I mean they didn’t even spellcheck the title." <- I thought one of the main reasons people appreciate and look forward to Hong Sisters' works is because of all the many clever references (Eastern and Western) they include in their stories.
And I read, probably in DB's What We're Watching, at the time the drama was current, when many commented that the word usage of "Del" was not correct -- that there was an actual Hotel De Luna, or whatever the correct version should be, and since they didn't have permission to use the name, had to alter it somewhat for the title.
Some came up with very reasonable alternatives that could have avoided the issue.
Barbrey
July 31, 2019 at 12:34 AM
Oh and there is no need for the HS to go deep. The Golden Bough and the Diana ritual is easily the most recognizable of the west to any student of myth, Just as I know the basics of the Monkey King. It has formed the mythological basis for a myriad of Hollywood movies from Raiders of the Lost Ark to Wonder Woman. I think even Sailor Moon uses some of it!
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CHARLIE
July 31, 2019 at 11:32 AM
I don't buy the link to greek mythology either. Some superficial similarities do exist, but the details don't fit; I don't get why people (not just on DB) insist on shoehorning the parallel no matter what.
Notes:
I have nothing against greek mythology -- in fact I was fed greek myths with a big spoon growing up-- but here it feels out of context, imo. I'd rather focus on the nuances of what is there in the actual primary material rather than imagine links that are not there. For instance it would be super nice if a native Korean speaker would chime in on the word play in the MW-CS conversations. But hey - everyone's a critic: if you find this kind of analysis fun - go for it. People who find it insightful or educational: enjoy! I'll be in my corner of the blogosphere spinning my own non-mythological yarn.
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 11:37 AM
I love this idea too: as much as both the Hecate and Diana connections are VERY appealing, it would be fantastic in someone with more grasp on Korean Lore could give us a better understanding.
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shach
July 31, 2019 at 12:45 PM
@fgb4877, I'm not Korean or well versed in Korean mythology as I'm not even native English speaker, and sources on Korean native religions are scarce in my country, but Mago myths come from pre literary period and there is many variations of her often contradictory of each other maybe due to later influence of buddhism and taoism, from what I learn Korean myths about gods and goddesses don't have that neat structure of Greek mythology where stories were recorded and organized. The closest to early Korean religions would be those of Far East Steppe tribes.
fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 2:01 PM
@shach , thanks for your reply!.
I have the very same limitation as you - my country is at this moment very disconnected from the outside world. It seems indeed that Mago lore was in fact dismantled in favour of other deities.
Goryeo dynasty was Buddhist, and as a reaction, the following Joseon dynasty was (neo)Confucian. If I remember well, (neo)Confucian worldview, mythos and ethics started to displace Buddhist's. In fact, Buddhist monks were marginalized as much as Korean Shamans.
It seems to be that everytime a new lifestyle is imposed, the old one languishes and gets vanished.
Mago Lore seems more Korean in its origin.
Thanks again!!!
fluffydeath
July 31, 2019 at 6:40 AM
We can not ignore or exclude Ma go exist as Magu (CN), Mako (JP), or Mago (KR) as an (d/t)aoist immortal protector of women, associated with the elixir of life. (Just what was the concoction exactly she gave to Chan Sung) "Before wandering too far afield, we should also look close to home."
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fgb4877
August 1, 2019 at 9:07 AM
... and the elixir of life Man-Wol gave Chang Sung with the proverbial kiss of life???.
That girl is falling fast, and Chang Sung is still oblivious to his own feelings. This will make his realization all more horrifying to him, and funnier to us.
Cheers!
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sirena
August 1, 2019 at 7:28 AM
Thank you for such a detailed analysis!
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Barbrey
August 2, 2019 at 10:35 AM
You're welcome. I wish I could convince more beanies of how close the sisters are using the Diana ritual but unless you've read it for yourselves you won't see how startling it is. I'd just like to say as well that I'm very well versed in Korean myth now too, having done a self-study for Scarlet Heart Ryeo when I started noticing recurring motifs of water, rivers, sunshine, memory, rain, power. It's not easy to get in depth knowledge of Korean mythology online! So I am as interested as anyone in Korean symbolism for this story, and was almost shocked when I recognized the Roman myth. But everyone keeps mentioning Beauty and the Beast and no one says - 'but that's not Korean' about it - why? Because you're all familiar with the story from Disney. ( And that story, by the way, is based on the Roman myth of Cupid and Psyche.) The Golden Bough/Diana ritual is as familiar to me as Beauty and the Beast, and jumps at me in the same way.
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July 30, 2019 at 5:56 PM
I really like that they did not use the kiss card in the usual way because we all know it isn't romantic, at least not yet. Man-wol's tears when she remembered Yeon-woo suggests that she feels guilty about what happened to him in the past that we are yet to know and his phrase that he will be happy to die for Man-wol suggests that he indeed died for her. Oh no.
I don't really know how reincarnation works in this show because we were shown Chan-sung's ex-girlfriend to be portrayed by the same actress who also portrayed the Princess that likes our Captain. Coincidence? I think not.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 30, 2019 at 5:58 PM
And that Subway and Swarovski PPL was so creative! This episode has my favorite looks that Man-wol is serving!
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OldLawyer
July 30, 2019 at 11:54 PM
I too loved the different way the kiss happened- it was somehow more sincere and even subconscious. What a wonderful moment.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 31, 2019 at 12:04 AM
And they didn't get awkward after that because there is no romance attached to it (not yet). How wonderful is that? HAHA
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 1:04 AM
I think the pretended it never happened 😅
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 11:39 AM
... Or that means that she fell first and he haven't still put a name on his feelings of him thinking a lot about her ;) .
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5 growingbeautifully
July 30, 2019 at 6:08 PM
Thanks @sunny!
There was so much to enjoy in this episode! The cynical banter between Man Wol and Chan Sung is fantastic. I liked that she is basically truthful, telling him exactly what was what, because he's one awfully trusting guy, and really needs truthful answers to all his questions. I love that also because he's asking the questions that I'm asking and I need to hear those answers to get the clues for this story.
About being trusting ... CS simply believed the Ma Go's sisters and took the tea. Imagine if that herbal tea he downed had been poison or something that gave him false hallucinations! As it is, it seems to have given him the ability to see visions of the past while awake.
I find it iInteresting that MW's kiss is never addressed at all, that it is not an issue, and that there is no misunderstanding or need for explanation between MW and CS. His returning to protect her (eyes closed LOL!) was touching and a hoot as well, and also was not an issue between them. That is refreshing and a great sign of how they are comfortable with each other and trust each other. CS has from the the time he decided to work at the Hotel, been trusting MW with his life, but now it's good to know that MW trusts him with herself and her 'heart'.
It was a great scene, that long pause when CS had to tell MW if he loved her or not, and he could truthfully say he does not,... likely because he believes he does not love her romantically. However, he obviously cares for her, and with the dreams and the leaf that represents their strong connection through the millennia, that care is much more than for just his boss whom he offered to cart back on a vegetable wagon, and definitely more than for the fainting bride ghost whom he had to princess carry LOL.
The other thing I liked was the clear explanation of the lore of the ghost wedding (a sidestory also in Master's Sun) and how it ties in nicely with the thread of what MW needs to do to be free of her barren life. Although she does not crave being married, she does need to cut her ties to her foolishly opulent lifestyle, and to let go of all the regrets, guilt and resentment that keeps her from being as alive as her tree is becoming.
I was afraid at first that the tree might go all Dorian Gray on us by becoming beautiful while MW became old and ugly, but I'm glad to see that it's the opposite ie it reflects the change in her, even just the size of a leaf.
MW has begun to really care for an other, instead of remaining self-serving. She is becoming self-sacrificing in that she has become willing to risk her own hastening towards death, by letting CS stay beside her, instead of having him sent away mad.
I liked how that leaf fell from her tree a millennia ago and landed on CS's shoulder in the present, and how she almost but did not pick it off him, so that he found it and kept it as a sign of their connection and of that split second when she almost sat beside him to...
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growingbeautifully
July 30, 2019 at 6:10 PM
and kept it as a sign of their connection and of that split second when she almost sat beside him to hear him tell her about his dream.
He kept that leaf in his breast pocket, close to his heart, and he took it out in Rm 13 almost as a talisman against harm. As if, that bit of life from Man Wol's tree, kept her close beside him.
I'll be interested to know if that leaf can wither, since CS sees it as a sign of his link to MW, and of her care and protection.
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FlyingTool
July 30, 2019 at 9:07 PM
And for a lovely exposition on the meaning of the leaves by @growingbeautifully and packmule3, go to
http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/07/30/hotel-del-luna-gb-explains-the-two-leaves/#comment-9510
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 11:42 PM
What a lovely write up. I will have visit that site for the other essays too.
One thing we've learned in recent episodes is that it is Yeon Woo who is connected to the tree and the 'house he will build for her', and in fact a house was built for her from the tree's branches. Yeon Woo also promised to devote his lifespan to her to keep her alive. The 99 managers?
So for right now I see that tree as both MW and Yeon Woo, and can't help but wonder if the leaves falling from past to present are Yeon Woo 's blessing on CS and MW. Something like that!
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growingbeautifully
July 31, 2019 at 2:03 AM
That's the beauty of a show rich in imagery. We can have all this fun finding possible meanings and allusions to something inside and outside the show, which can give us more ideas on how to interpret what we are seeing and hearing.
If you go to that blog, 'Bitches Over Dramas' Episode 1, you'll read also how the image of Man Wol bringing the coffin of bric-a-brac and spirits to locate the guesthouse for the dead, seems to be paralleled in how she herself is happily entombed in the hotel with the guest spirits. And may I add ... with her own expensive bric-a-brac.
I did have the impression too that the wood flying in from wherever to build that first guest house, may have come from the tree. It's a nice thought if the tree is indeed incorporating Yeon Woo in part, that Yeon Woo gets to fulfill what he offered to MW. :-)
6 RenOIshi
July 30, 2019 at 6:16 PM
I love the little stories of ghosts finishing their unfinished businesses and moving on to the other side in peace. This episodes story was sad but having said that if you love someone truly you would want the best for them. She went happily to the other side knowing the man she loved will lead a long and possibly happy life.
I am dying to see why Man Wol was cursed. What did she do? What’s up with the tree sprouting leaves? Is Chang Sung the hottie captain? Or is he the doengsang? Why is PO so cute? So many questions...
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suk
July 30, 2019 at 10:43 PM
I was introduced to PO through Bastarz, where he had the image of a gangster. Seeing him be the cutie maknae bellboy is throwing me off here.
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bobabean
August 1, 2019 at 11:07 AM
haha I was introduced to PO through this drama and was thrown off by his stage performances
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7 judybling
July 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM
Am I tripping or does the guy behind the curtain in the flashback look awfully similar to Yeo Jin Goo?
If Mi Ra really is the reincarnation of the princess in the past, does that mean the past and reborn self always have the same face? Then we might be in for another surprise, because I don't think Chan Sung is either Chung Myung or Yeon Woo at this point.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 7:16 PM
I know! It's the jawline I think.
Something else trippy - don't know if It's been mentioned about the main poster. Vangsweetie637 on another forum noticed that there is an extra hand between CS and the guest manager. So fun. https://www.soompi.com/article/1335772wpp/hotel-del-luna-cast-welcomes-viewers-in-first-official-group-poster
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Lily
July 30, 2019 at 9:28 PM
I always thought of it as a ghost hand. As this is a ghost drama afterall.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 9:34 PM
Well yes, didn't mean to imply it wasn't. Though the one on the ground looks more fleshy!
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RenOIshi
August 1, 2019 at 7:41 PM
Looks like it is PO’s characters hand.
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suk
July 30, 2019 at 10:46 PM
Then Man-weol would have recognized Chan-sung, right? I think Chan-sung's face/past self probably played a role in Man-weol's life in the past, but she never saw him or amnesia-ed him. But I would love a twist about who Chan-sung really is.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 11:17 PM
I'm tending to think he's inhabiting Yeon Woo's role as first protector/right hand man/family (Manager Oh called her his sister, daughter, granddaughter). The job of Manager rightfully belonged to Yeon Woo - he was the original - but each man who inhabits the role is different. Ma Go 'opened the way' by sending the reincarnation of Historical Hottie to her to inhabit Yeon Woo's role. MW does not believe Historical Hottie loved her as much as Yeon Woo in the past, and she could very well have killed him and started that war between her bandits and the guards, based on a deception, not by him, but maybe the princess. He may have loved her the most after all but her lack of trust and temper is her sin. We will see as each new piece of the puzzle arrives!
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 1:13 AM
I initially thought chung sung is yeon woo. But now since the princess has the same face in the present i am not sure anymore. Maybe chung sung's past self is a character that is not yet introduced to us, maybe someone who only had a brief encounter with man weol (or maybe he was sporting a huge beard or something haha) which is why she doesn't recall him from the past. It's been 1000+ years afterall. He also can be a descendent / relative of either yeon woo or the captain guy. Or the past husband of the princess!! idk anymore. I also felt the man who entered the room when man weol was wearing a bridal outfit was chung sung. Idk why though. Let's see how drama unfolds that part.
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8 growingbeautifully
July 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM
The Wardrobe
I love the majority of the styles that Man Wol sports in this show. This wardrobe stylist is going in a big way for the mid twentieth century Western or continental look. The hats (with netting!) and gloves, high collars and lace, slim long sleeves, mid length and long flow-y skirts. The hairdos reflect the neatness of how hair was pinned and styled in the past, compared to our present time, but at the same time wispy sideburns and natural fringes, show us that this is the modern take on the original look.
The accessories are interesting. They do look like timeless pieces, but the necklaces are worn in a modern way, with several chains and beads worn simultaneously.
I've been trying with limited success, to screenshot most of the fashion and accessories. When I can get them neatly collaged, I'll pot them on my fan wall.
That being said however, I noted a misstep in MW's look in the next Episode. More on my fan wall later!
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growingbeautifully
July 30, 2019 at 6:28 PM
LOL... I'll post them not pot them!!! on my fan wall. 😆
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shach
July 31, 2019 at 12:11 AM
Since this fashion post, I can write how bothered I am by make up department ;) I can't help but roll up my eyes in the flashback scenes because Captain and Yeon Woo has such patchy make up plus in some shots Captain has dark foundation put on the face but not neck, what's the point of darkening their complexion and why they can't do it right?
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 11:49 AM
Dear @shach , I did some theatre when a young adult. Usually people see your face, your frontal part. Wearing such a plaster is uncomfortable (just the base applied not to give reflections to the camera feels like being plastered in mud), and I guess under the sun even more.
And yes, you are right, it is an error. It is not unusual, in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho there was a scene where you could see the sound recording team in the fringes of the frame... alas, the conundrums of having to film and edit in such a short time!!!.
Personally I hope they had sunscreen in their necks and were properly hidrated, since recording under the sun must be relentless.
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9 OldLawyer
July 30, 2019 at 7:30 PM
Thank you Sunny for the great recap.
I stayed up late to finish this episode- because there was no way I was going to stop in the middle of it. This show has me mesmerized.
I do have a question: Kim Mi-eun, who plays the incredibly beautiful bride in this episode, does not appear to have acted in anything else and, frankly does not talk much in this episode. I suspect that she is really a top fashion model- Am I right? She was certainly lovely.
Even though this program is a re-telling of BEAUTY AND THE BEAST it seems as if we will not be getting a happy ending. I hope I am wrong. Part of me simply wants the fairy tale to have a fairly tale ending.
I agree with Sunny about the re-appearance of Kim Yoo-na. It seems that the Hotel Del Luna has acquired an Intern. I bet we get a lot of laughs out of this.
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growingbeautifully
July 31, 2019 at 2:19 AM
According to Google translate of the article on Chosun.com
"According to her agency, landscape entertainment, Kim Mi - eun was not an actor until 2018, but an office worker in a large corporation up til last year.
출처 : http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2019/07/25/2019072501916.html"
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OldLawyer
July 31, 2019 at 6:42 AM
Thank you Growing Beautifully. So this seems to have been her first role. I wish her good fortune.
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Zora
July 31, 2019 at 11:08 AM
She's really good! The part where she said "I love you...Please be happy." got me 😭
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dramamad
July 31, 2019 at 7:41 AM
I too get the feeling that there is no happily ever after for chan sung and man weol but you know... I think I just might be ok with that.
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OldLawyer
July 31, 2019 at 7:31 PM
I have figured out that there is a way for Chan-sung and Man-weol to have a happy ending: We have been told that Man-weol will be the last guest that Chan-sung sees off. If Chan-sung serves as the Hotel Manager for the next fifty years that would not be so bad.
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growingbeautifully
August 1, 2019 at 4:11 AM
That is what I'm expecting. MW will grow old with CS, like any ordinary couple. I was asking if her powers will disappear once she is fully human and mortal. :-)
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
August 1, 2019 at 4:28 AM
nah they're both gonna die... ;)
growingbeautifully
August 1, 2019 at 4:42 AM
Heheh! @sicarius Hopefully at a ripe old age!!
10 ash27
July 30, 2019 at 8:17 PM
This week is where it felt like everything started to come together. For the first time, I started to feel invested. I've enjoyed the world and the visuals from the beginning, but the characters and plot are finally clicking for me too. The flashy style had me worried that the show would go for style over substance, but now I feel we're getting a better balance. This episode gave us more character development and emotional beats, which is what I'd been waiting for.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 8:26 PM
Totally agree.
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11 weylie
July 30, 2019 at 8:59 PM
Did this drama just manage to promote Subway and Swarovski all at once? Legendary.
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Zora
July 31, 2019 at 11:11 AM
Their product placement strategy is just on point!
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 12:08 PM
... And that is one of the reasons why Hong Sisters are a gold mine for PPL. Hope they continue to have this high quality, but the middle stretch in their Dramas tends to be heavy, and we are entering it.
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12 Kurama
July 30, 2019 at 9:04 PM
I really like their bickering. Nobody dare to speak like that to Man Wol but he does and it's so fun to watch them.
I'm disapointed by Bartender Kim and guest manager Seo-hee, they don't really assume their scheme...
I'm curious about what he saw in the past, Man Wol in red and bleeding... It doesn't sound very good.
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 11:32 AM
@kurama -san, it could be both that Man-Wol was forced to marry in the past (so she emphatized with CS's predicament) , or that CS with his connection to Man-Wol saw an image describing her torment to seeing him marry off someone else.
He is awfully tuned to her.
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 12:44 PM
Under the bridal robes she was wearing her usual clothes. So it feels like some how she stole/got the robes, put on them and waited for that person, whoever entered the room. Probably to avenge something. And that wasn't her wedding. It was supposed to be someone elses, probably of the princess. Thats how i got it.
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fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 2:03 PM
That is a very interesting narrative, I like it!.
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13 agoodheart
July 30, 2019 at 9:26 PM
I wonder why the bride chose Chan-sung, because getting married to her means he will die. Did she want him to die and go with her?
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Lily
July 30, 2019 at 9:34 PM
Chan sung wilk not die by marrying her. Because he is a human in his full form. But her boyfriend will die because its his spirit that came to hotel. His body is in the hospital in a comatose state. If they married theyl bf's spirit will go with her making his body die in the hospital.
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Lily
July 30, 2019 at 9:34 PM
Will* not die
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agoodheart
July 30, 2019 at 11:11 PM
Ah, that makes more sense. I don’t get why Man-wol said she saved Chan-sung again then. Probably just from getting married to a ghost I guess.
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Barbrey
July 30, 2019 at 11:53 PM
I understand your confusion though. I'm sure my subtitles said CS would die if he married her. The recap says the same thing. Yet up till then, I understood the same as Lily.
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 12:06 AM
My recap didn't say chung sung would die if he married her. Strange. If death is involved chung sung will be more worried about Sanchez. It did say that the groom would die though (because he is in his apirit form.)
Lily
July 31, 2019 at 12:07 AM
Not my recap geez, i meant the subtitles 😅
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July 31, 2019 at 7:06 PM
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sph_7
July 31, 2019 at 7:10 PM
This was my take on it. The bride was involuntarily obsessed with marrying her lover and her obsession has sucked the life out of him. His parents got scared and hired the shaman to conduct a dead matrimony. The human that finds the pouch likely won’t die, as even Mago assured Chan Sung when he had his doubts and feared that the wedding will harm Sanchez. What happened though was Man Wol’s jealously can’t stand Chan Sung being the groom. But I don’t think she really wanted to kill the groom. She was just mad that Chan Sung is being too self-sacrificing for healing the ghost. And he simply doesn’t see her the ghost wants to get married badly. She convinced the bride again who she really wanted to marry but also gambled that Chan Sung will realize soon enough that the ghost will take the groom with her. Man Wol’s always confident that she can control the ghosts in her hotel. Whether the bride can successfully take the groom with her is just the matter of when Man Wol intervenes. If Chan Sung convinces the bride to give up, she gets to ride off with a lily. If not, Man Wol will pulverized her without a finch. Man Wol’s complicated resolution was to 1) stop Chan Sung from getting married and 2) teach Chan Sung a lesson about ghosts being dangerous and can deceive him.
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 9:27 PM
That is a very good explanation 😊
Lily
July 31, 2019 at 9:32 PM
I feel chung sung will get in to trouble oneday. He is too sympathetic towards the ghosts and can easily get deceived by their stories. In the bride's case she didn't lie but didn't say much. Which made chung sung get the wrong idea about her intention. Man weol keeps saying him to not to get too close to ghosts so im quite sure something will happen which will teach him a lesson about interacting with ghosts so carelessly.
Lily
July 30, 2019 at 10:06 PM
The bride agreed to marry a human is because then she can go alone to the afterlife without betraying her actual boyfriend. If she married a spirit she'd have to go with the spirit.
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14 shach
July 31, 2019 at 12:16 AM
The story keep getting better and better, and I love the add on of ghost guests stories, I curious how they resolve the Room 13 ghost story, it's such a dangerous ghost and they don't seem bothered by her being scot-free out there at all.
I'm not sure now if Chan Sung is really reincarnation or he just have this dreams by being connected to the tree by deal his father made.
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Lily
July 31, 2019 at 1:21 AM
I think they are not bothered yet because it is not really their job to go after ghosts and catch them? They are merely a hotel that facilitates ghosts that are wandering around with desires, incompleted tasks and stuff and help them the way they can to get them done. Im not sure though how that room 13 ghost came to the hotel by her own will though. She seemed locked up and was more than eager to leave the hotel.
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growingbeautifully
July 31, 2019 at 2:12 AM
I was most concerned that no one else was concerned about the runaway guest who will drive human beings mad. Of course they themselves are ghosts, so they are not directly affected. Man Wol does not seem the caring type overall and is not involved until a ghost is a guest or a money provider. Chan Sung may not have got full wind of what that ghost of Rm 13 was really all about, or he would probably have done something about it.
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books7time
August 1, 2019 at 8:13 AM
I too kept thinking, "But the escaped Room 13 ghost...." I was expecting the storyline to follow this ghost, but the ghost's story we got was perfect for this episode and I wouldn't trade.
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15 Kafiyah Bello
July 31, 2019 at 5:32 AM
I finally feel the chemistry, I think YJG has settled into his character so he is more unclenched. The storyline is moving along beautifully as well.
I just want to give a special shoutout to that red dress Man Wol had for the wedding. It was so gorgeous. Just beautiful in a sea if beautiful dresses.
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16 gem28
July 31, 2019 at 6:27 AM
I loved this episode. No matter what Man Wol says, the little smile that she had while she left room no. 13 says it all. Chang Seung showing up to save him just hearing her voice did made her happy. I love this bond that has formed between the two of them. They are refreshingly straight forward with each other and trust each other. Man Wol may be prickly but she isn't very different than any other girl deep down. Having somebody to trust, somebody who cares for you, she craves that. As for Chan Seung, he does deeply care for Man Wol. It isn't love yet. But I can see that it won't be long before it does become that. For a scared cat that he is, the way she tightly held onto her out of fear of her getting hurt, that speaks volume. I am happy they are not making him head over heels in love with her out of nowhere. It has to be gradual for it to make sense. And they are doing it exactly that way. As for her past life, something awful happened. I have a feeling our princess from the past had a role to play in it. Man Wol disguised as a bride in that room, whatever led her to that can't be something small. I guess that sin she is paying the price for started somewhere in the timeline there. And I have a feeling, I could be off that Cheon Myung and Yeon Woo both died because of something that the princess did. It made Man Wol go on killing spree. I have a feeling that whoever was entering the room was Yeo Jin Goo's past form and he was innocent even back then of any wrong doing hence he was reborn and crossed path again with Man Wol. I could be wrong. Also who else enjoys jealous Man Wol, she is possessive about Chan Seung already, and she only kind of likes him now. What will happen when she fully realizes her feelings, I can't wait.
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growingbeautifully
July 31, 2019 at 6:34 AM
@gem28 Yes to a slow organic falling in love and yes to a jealous Man Wol. I do however wish that they will stop jumping to conclusions out of jealousy. Find out if what the 3rd party is reporting to one is true before acting on half baked and usually wrong info.
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books7time
August 1, 2019 at 7:45 AM
Wow, I had not considered the possibility that the man entering the bedroom is Chang Seung's past life! This is an intriguing idea. I would love if the Hong Sisters pulled a clever twist out of their hat.
I just hope that if Chang Seung is a reincarnation of someone from Man Wol's past that it serves a meaningful narrative purpose rather than trying to force a connection.
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17 welh
July 31, 2019 at 6:32 AM
This was the best episode of the series. The ghost story was complete and detailed with a few plot twists along the way.
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18 fgb4877
July 31, 2019 at 8:29 AM
When Man-Wol squealed in the jewelry store, she was so cute I almost opened a tuna can for her... cat people will understand ;) .
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19 Nonso
July 31, 2019 at 1:39 PM
Jealous Man Weol is hilarious. She doesnt even try to hide it and her staff is so oblivious.
REINCARNATIONS: CHAN SUNG AMD MI RA. What do you guts think?
And what name is sanchez
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20 books7time
August 1, 2019 at 7:47 AM
Thank you, Sunny for recapping this marvelous show. Your enjoyment comes through in your writing, which adds to my own enjoyment.
You mentioned that you are filling in as a recapper. Who is going to take over writing the remaining recaps?
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21 Fatcat007 (Kitty 💜)
August 1, 2019 at 8:57 AM
Thank you for the recap Sunny.
I might've found this week's ghost stories a bit mild. Like in this ghost bride story I just felt.... something missing 😅
But that aside, IU+ team are great, with both the light & serious moments.
The funniest parts were probably *Sanchez in trouble* part, I laughed so much. Also IU doing the shopping with black card 😎😈
As for her past, I'm gonna wait for the show to reveal it & not use my brain on it since it's gonna be sad no matter what. *Prepared with tissues*
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22 Lily
August 1, 2019 at 11:15 AM
I loved this episode and everything about it. The ghost story was lovely and heartfelt. Chung sung and Man weol were awesome. it was a perfect episode.
I loved the scene where man weol was waiting for chung sung in the park, the background music and their conversation was so eye catchy and ear pleasing to me.
I felt really sad when the spirit of the groom ran off and the bride cut the string. That scene was done beautifully. The groom will probably remember this for the rest of his life like a near death experience, like literary, how a person is about to die but their dead relatives come and prevent that saying "it's not time yet", or just saying to go back.
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23 CHARLIE
August 1, 2019 at 12:55 PM
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24 nasha darling
September 23, 2019 at 11:49 PM
what song was it that came out after this scene:
She severs the string and as it falls limp, her boyfriend wakes up from his coma. “I love you,” Su-min whispers, “Please be happy.”
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25 Angie
January 4, 2023 at 6:21 PM
Please return to the good stories and stop all the melodrama. The back and forth was too much. CS, Sanchez, CS, groom. Just give the bride closure and move on. What happened anyway? Did they get in an accident on their wedding day? They could've told us that instead of involving Sanchez. Did Mago really not know until CS went to ask for help? *sigh* make it make sense
AND DOES NO ONE CARE THAT THE GHOST FROM ROOM 13 IS OUT THERE??? Is she randomly crawling through people's tv screens driving them insane?? good grief
I hope there's some cutesy from Intern and Mr. Ji. That was cute.
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