#Graceful Family … Why?!!! Oppa really didn’t mean it. Why did they end him like that? 😭😭😭 wtf, even Director Han got a happy ending. Why did the best character get the worst ending?
He has a movie to shoot so I hope he doesn’t have a 3 season contract with this show.
I hope Kim Okbin will go back to Chungmuro. I haven’t liked a show she picked beside YOONA’S STREET.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does, his relationship with the writers go way back. They wouldn’t ambitiously sign 3 seasons with Netflix w/o him on board. He can still film movies in between seasons.
It’s not a good show, but it’s fun to make fun of. Saving the rest for Sat What We’re Watching.
99.9% sure it’s ending this weekend, but looking forward to the reactions if it doesn’t 🙂
Wow! Seeing 2 pages of the script of HDL ep16 (and knetz discussions on DC Inside HDL gallery) made me realize how hard Jingoo worked to make his character stand out. There was practically no dialogue and no action descriptions. Even though IU had all the dialogue, she also barely had any action descriptions. IU and Jingoo, along with the director (My Love From The Stars) were the ones who really made this drama shine. Now I feel bad for giving Hong Sisters any credit.
Here’s the script:
“Speechless” Chan Sung:
We could tell IU and Jingoo ad-libbed or designed a lot of their own parts (action and dialogue) during filming. Thanks to their acting and the director unwilling to cut their brilliant performances (thus the increasingly longer episodes), HDL became a really touching love story that wasn’t intended. HS described Chan Sung like he’s meant to be a monk (Hello~ Tang Samzang). The ending wouldn’t be such a sad ending if they played by script, but they can’t complain because ManChan became a big buzz onscreen couple in Korea.
You’ve worked hard Jingoo Oppa!
I’m happy to see knetz calling out Hong Sisters for crediting themselves for Jingoo’s metamorphosis into an adult actor. He shed his child actor reputation long before HDL. They even admitted Chan Sung is ordinary and didn’t have any plot to make him interesting, so how were they even helpful? If anything, Jingoo did them a favor for taking a boring man and making Chan Sung so endearing and memorable that most viewers are still very upset for him.
Thankfully ManChan are getting the recognition they deserve.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Meanwhile ”Jingoo Oppa” completely discarded Chan Sung’s image and returned to college.
yeah – HS would have honestly been better off keeping their mouths shut. they made it painfully clear that a lot of the good things about this show happened despite of (rather than because of) their contribution. the interview does a lot to explain some of the inconsistencies in the characterization as a result of a mismatch between the writers and the director’s/actors’ vision of the characters. and now i feel perfectly entitled to take the bits i liked and fill in the rest as my imagination sees fit. also, this interview has finally convinced me that HS simply aren’t smart, or sophisticated, or knowledgeable enough to make good of their good ideas. expecting more from them is just futile and setting oneself up for disappointment.
I think their premises aren’t bad. Usually their supernatural dramas suit my taste, except for the ending. They finally did something right this time — they wrote a drama with an endgame in mind. However they focused only on Man Wol and how to bring her from her beginning state to the ending. The rest is “banchan”. I actually don’t mind this way of writing support characters because it keeps the focus on the leads and leaves room for my imagination. The story of the Man Wol as the ultimate lead is still the best I’ve seen from them. However if Man Wol should convincingly become what they want, the savior should be important enough to be fully characterized in the script. Instead they relied on actors to do their part of controlling the emotional development of the characters. Imagine someone who is only good looking and stands next to Man Wol making inappropriate expressions, this could have been disastrous.
I feel the same. I don’t like the drama any less after reading the interviews. I just appreciate the actors and directors a whole lot more for making it work.
@charlie agree with you. HS should not have said anything. All the more – credit goes to the Director and the Actors for fleshing out the characters so as to give cohesiveness.
“HS described Chan Sung like he’s meant to be a monk”
Yikes don’t give me MORE ammunition ladies!
” They even admitted Chan Sung is ordinary and didn’t have any plot to make him interesting”
…
*Sigh* No wonder I never warmed up to him.
aww, back to the school struggle like the rest of us. I wonder how he manages his schedule though, like does he have a special school schedule because of his job or does he just take time off work when it’s time for school?
Also how cute is his nerd outfit 😍 To me he seems like pretty much a nerd in everyday life though. Am I the only one who thinks so?
Thank you so very much for this post. Now I understand why we ended up with the ending that we did. Yes it was consistent and it was the ending that was foretold- and had Chan–sung been ‘monk-like’ it even would have made sense, but it would not have been even a quarter of the show that it ended up being. So we have a great director and superb acting by IU and by Jingoo to thank for what became a truly great show- one that rationally ought to have had a different ending than it did. Surely the Hong sisters had time to re-write episode 16 once we could all see what was happening. I am disappointed in the Hong Sisters, but not in HOTEL DEL LUNA.
And even more I think that it is time for IU to give up her day job and stick to acting. She has a sweet, wonderful voice and she probably loves singing, but her acting has become outstanding.
I can understand this. I have felt the same way about some of the programs that others have thought were so great.
It was the 1st in my young kdrama watching that was the exception and not the norm. A true adult drama and with a true, blue veteran cast and not a weak actor, plot or dialogue in the bunch. I call shows like this slow burns before the ‘action’ we are use to is normally not dialogue driven.
I would think that if it was not for this show and the success it would not have lead to shows like My Ahjussi, which is along the same path.
Or it could just be that you don’t like it and that is cool as well :).
I like slow burns for the most part. I can definitely watch this if I understand the language by listening. Subtitles, or the dialogue in print, makes me sleepy though. Can’t explain it. Maybe I’m just that bad of a reader.😅
Doesn’t help that the lead is emotionless by design.
I confess that had it not been for YJM and LJH I would have dropped it too. The number of flashbacks we got to the same murder scene was exhausting at first and boring later. But those two made the show worth-while for me.
ha ha.. i was bored of it too..
slightly over rated.. just watch middle episodes.. i am sure you will figure out who is truly a bad guy and a good guy behind the scenes by the time you enter double digits
sph_7
February 24, 2021 at 6:28 AM
Load time of this site is frustrating 🙁
parkchuna 🍉
February 24, 2021 at 6:55 AM
Yesss! I thought it was my internet but other pages were fine 🙁
bbstl 🧹
February 24, 2021 at 8:57 AM
Oh, I thought it was me, too. What causes that?
sph_7
February 24, 2021 at 9:27 AM
Probably ads
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
February 24, 2021 at 9:38 PM
It’s super slow even with adblocks unfortunately.
transient
February 24, 2021 at 11:19 PM
I noticed the refresh is slow when when I post comments
sph_7
November 15, 2019 at 4:53 PM
Can’t remember what I was watching before my TV break.🤦🏻♀️
I guess if I don’t miss any of them, they weren’t good.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
November 16, 2019 at 3:08 AM
What are you going to watch next?
sph_7
November 16, 2019 at 7:19 AM
Thinking of starting My Country.
Maybe Extraordinary You, if it ends well. The reason I held off this drama was to make sure the ending isn’t crappy.
sph_7
October 18, 2019 at 10:58 PM
#Graceful Family … Why?!!! Oppa really didn’t mean it. Why did they end him like that? 😭😭😭 wtf, even Director Han got a happy ending. Why did the best character get the worst ending?
sph_7
October 9, 2019 at 10:06 PM
Trying to take Graceful Family slowly but failed. It’s premium crack. Now I’m suffering withdrawal.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
October 9, 2019 at 10:14 PM
*nods*
I feel your pain. Despite one big narrative misstep, I am going to miss my crack when it’s gone.
Trinity 🍆
October 10, 2019 at 8:41 AM
This is why I don’t live watch. I don’t know how people do it!
I’ve been holding off on watching this until it’s complete. I. Will. Be. Patient.
sph_7
September 25, 2019 at 9:21 PM
Yep, Graceful Family is crack 😂
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 25, 2019 at 10:00 PM
Yep, I’m trying to wait till I have two episodes like I normally do but I’m afraid I’m going to crack and watch today’s very soon. Crack crack crack.
sph_7
September 22, 2019 at 4:22 PM
Okay… so I’m gonna just keep Arthdal in my list and wait until every season is over. That is if SJK continues filming.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 22, 2019 at 4:56 PM
I only really watched for him. If you fast forward and only watch his scenes, it will be a super fast watch.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 22, 2019 at 4:58 PM
I’ve said it before, but he really needs someone else to pick his dramas.
sph_7
September 22, 2019 at 7:02 PM
Blossom only look at blockbuster dramas and it’s getting on my nerves.
kiara
September 23, 2019 at 9:59 AM
He has a movie to shoot so I hope he doesn’t have a 3 season contract with this show.
I hope Kim Okbin will go back to Chungmuro. I haven’t liked a show she picked beside YOONA’S STREET.
sph_7
September 23, 2019 at 2:28 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does, his relationship with the writers go way back. They wouldn’t ambitiously sign 3 seasons with Netflix w/o him on board. He can still film movies in between seasons.
sph_7
September 19, 2019 at 7:06 PM
Gong Hyo Jin always gets paired with the awkwardest make characters. I thought Hwa-shin was awkward enough. I’m so wrong. 🤣
sph_7
September 19, 2019 at 7:09 PM
I just know Kim Ji-seok won’t be normal either.
Katrina
September 19, 2019 at 11:02 PM
I hope not,
spazmo
September 20, 2019 at 12:29 AM
i am not a huge Kang Ha Neul fan, but in this drama — i think he’s the PERFECT AWKWARD character!! so endearingly earnest in all that he does…
but i’m looking forward to watching Kim Ji Seok in this.
Cloggie
September 20, 2019 at 12:42 AM
I love his character! I didn’t know it was possible for anybody so be this delightfully dim
Midnight
September 20, 2019 at 3:58 AM
I wasn’t a fan of his either, until I watched Midnight Runners…
sph_7
September 20, 2019 at 7:39 AM
I do see his Midnight Runner character in this role.
Midnight
September 20, 2019 at 11:04 AM
That is the best encouragement I could get for watching this show! Thank you!
sph_7
September 19, 2019 at 9:42 AM
So, is Arthdal ending this weekend?
I’m still on the fence about starting part 3. If there’s more seasons, I’m definitely giving up.
another woodalchi nicole recruit
September 19, 2019 at 9:49 AM
same! (coming back here to see what answers you get)
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 19, 2019 at 10:37 AM
It’s not a good show, but it’s fun to make fun of. Saving the rest for Sat What We’re Watching.
99.9% sure it’s ending this weekend, but looking forward to the reactions if it doesn’t 🙂
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 19, 2019 at 11:39 AM
The other good thing we can say about it is “It makes other TVN kdramas look good by comparison” 🙂
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 19, 2019 at 10:26 PM
Reactions to it not ending… You mean UTTER DESPAIR??
Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 19, 2019 at 10:32 PM
Mostly, the comment I’ve already prepared for What We’re Watching will be even more true 🙂
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 19, 2019 at 10:25 PM
Don’t start it. Just read the recaps and enjoy us trashing it in the comments to cope.
sph_7
September 15, 2019 at 9:56 AM
I feel like there’s nothing interesting to watch after HDL and Class of Lies ended. Hopefully the lineup after Chuseok will be better.
sph_7
September 9, 2019 at 5:46 PM
#Melo
Not liking the main couple but everyone else won my heart…. even the bitchy actress and her manager.
Will keep watching if just for the baby… have a soft spot for In Guks 👼🏻
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 9, 2019 at 7:52 PM
I find the main couple endlessly entertaining, but wouldn’t want to date either of them. The manager is my favorite.
sph_7
September 10, 2019 at 5:03 PM
The manager is my favorite too.
sph_7
September 8, 2019 at 7:45 PM
#When Devil Calls Your Name
Kdrama writers trying to make everyone hate deities. This is like 3rd drama in a row.
sph_7
September 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM
Does Zero Nine looks like Zero Ten here or it it just me?
*Jingoo leaving BKK*
sph_7
September 7, 2019 at 8:09 AM
I know Cha Eun Woo is trying, but goodness gracious go to acting class.
sph_7
September 7, 2019 at 6:01 AM
Can’t remember what happened in Arthdal 1 & 2 already. Has it been that long ago?🤦🏻♀️
sph_7
September 6, 2019 at 11:09 AM
OMG! This is too cute!
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 4:54 PM
Wow! Seeing 2 pages of the script of HDL ep16 (and knetz discussions on DC Inside HDL gallery) made me realize how hard Jingoo worked to make his character stand out. There was practically no dialogue and no action descriptions. Even though IU had all the dialogue, she also barely had any action descriptions. IU and Jingoo, along with the director (My Love From The Stars) were the ones who really made this drama shine. Now I feel bad for giving Hong Sisters any credit.
Here’s the script:
“Speechless” Chan Sung:
We could tell IU and Jingoo ad-libbed or designed a lot of their own parts (action and dialogue) during filming. Thanks to their acting and the director unwilling to cut their brilliant performances (thus the increasingly longer episodes), HDL became a really touching love story that wasn’t intended. HS described Chan Sung like he’s meant to be a monk (Hello~ Tang Samzang). The ending wouldn’t be such a sad ending if they played by script, but they can’t complain because ManChan became a big buzz onscreen couple in Korea.
You’ve worked hard Jingoo Oppa!
I’m happy to see knetz calling out Hong Sisters for crediting themselves for Jingoo’s metamorphosis into an adult actor. He shed his child actor reputation long before HDL. They even admitted Chan Sung is ordinary and didn’t have any plot to make him interesting, so how were they even helpful? If anything, Jingoo did them a favor for taking a boring man and making Chan Sung so endearing and memorable that most viewers are still very upset for him.
Thankfully ManChan are getting the recognition they deserve.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Meanwhile ”Jingoo Oppa” completely discarded Chan Sung’s image and returned to college.
CHARLIE
September 3, 2019 at 5:11 PM
yeah – HS would have honestly been better off keeping their mouths shut. they made it painfully clear that a lot of the good things about this show happened despite of (rather than because of) their contribution. the interview does a lot to explain some of the inconsistencies in the characterization as a result of a mismatch between the writers and the director’s/actors’ vision of the characters. and now i feel perfectly entitled to take the bits i liked and fill in the rest as my imagination sees fit. also, this interview has finally convinced me that HS simply aren’t smart, or sophisticated, or knowledgeable enough to make good of their good ideas. expecting more from them is just futile and setting oneself up for disappointment.
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 5:56 PM
I think their premises aren’t bad. Usually their supernatural dramas suit my taste, except for the ending. They finally did something right this time — they wrote a drama with an endgame in mind. However they focused only on Man Wol and how to bring her from her beginning state to the ending. The rest is “banchan”. I actually don’t mind this way of writing support characters because it keeps the focus on the leads and leaves room for my imagination. The story of the Man Wol as the ultimate lead is still the best I’ve seen from them. However if Man Wol should convincingly become what they want, the savior should be important enough to be fully characterized in the script. Instead they relied on actors to do their part of controlling the emotional development of the characters. Imagine someone who is only good looking and stands next to Man Wol making inappropriate expressions, this could have been disastrous.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 3, 2019 at 7:09 PM
I’m glad that they left it open so that magic happened (at least for me).
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 7:13 PM
I feel the same. I don’t like the drama any less after reading the interviews. I just appreciate the actors and directors a whole lot more for making it work.
CHARLIE
September 3, 2019 at 7:16 PM
it hasn’t negatively affected my opinion of the drama either…
but it has made my respect for the writers diminish considerably.
Madkdr
September 3, 2019 at 9:29 PM
@charlie agree with you. HS should not have said anything. All the more – credit goes to the Director and the Actors for fleshing out the characters so as to give cohesiveness.
Madkdr
September 3, 2019 at 9:30 PM
I may have tagged the wrong person – sorry!! I meant @Charlieblue17
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 4, 2019 at 2:53 PM
“HS described Chan Sung like he’s meant to be a monk”
Yikes don’t give me MORE ammunition ladies!
” They even admitted Chan Sung is ordinary and didn’t have any plot to make him interesting”
…
*Sigh* No wonder I never warmed up to him.
Eighteen
September 5, 2019 at 5:38 PM
aww, back to the school struggle like the rest of us. I wonder how he manages his schedule though, like does he have a special school schedule because of his job or does he just take time off work when it’s time for school?
Also how cute is his nerd outfit 😍 To me he seems like pretty much a nerd in everyday life though. Am I the only one who thinks so?
sph_7
September 7, 2019 at 11:42 AM
He seems to take leave every other semester to film. He will be in college for the rest of the year.
OldLawyer
September 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM
Thank you so very much for this post. Now I understand why we ended up with the ending that we did. Yes it was consistent and it was the ending that was foretold- and had Chan–sung been ‘monk-like’ it even would have made sense, but it would not have been even a quarter of the show that it ended up being. So we have a great director and superb acting by IU and by Jingoo to thank for what became a truly great show- one that rationally ought to have had a different ending than it did. Surely the Hong sisters had time to re-write episode 16 once we could all see what was happening. I am disappointed in the Hong Sisters, but not in HOTEL DEL LUNA.
And even more I think that it is time for IU to give up her day job and stick to acting. She has a sweet, wonderful voice and she probably loves singing, but her acting has become outstanding.
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 12:06 PM
I tried 4 times to finish Secret Forest.
Will I finish before S2?
My eyes just keep leaving the screen, involuntarily. 🤦🏻♀️
larelle79
September 3, 2019 at 12:14 PM
I can understand this. I have felt the same way about some of the programs that others have thought were so great.
It was the 1st in my young kdrama watching that was the exception and not the norm. A true adult drama and with a true, blue veteran cast and not a weak actor, plot or dialogue in the bunch. I call shows like this slow burns before the ‘action’ we are use to is normally not dialogue driven.
I would think that if it was not for this show and the success it would not have lead to shows like My Ahjussi, which is along the same path.
Or it could just be that you don’t like it and that is cool as well :).
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 12:53 PM
I like slow burns for the most part. I can definitely watch this if I understand the language by listening. Subtitles, or the dialogue in print, makes me sleepy though. Can’t explain it. Maybe I’m just that bad of a reader.😅
Doesn’t help that the lead is emotionless by design.
Midnight
September 3, 2019 at 1:07 PM
I confess that had it not been for YJM and LJH I would have dropped it too. The number of flashbacks we got to the same murder scene was exhausting at first and boring later. But those two made the show worth-while for me.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 3, 2019 at 7:13 PM
I watched it in one day. I couldn’t look away.
alasecond
September 3, 2019 at 12:38 PM
ha ha.. i was bored of it too..
slightly over rated.. just watch middle episodes.. i am sure you will figure out who is truly a bad guy and a good guy behind the scenes by the time you enter double digits
miss h
September 3, 2019 at 4:22 PM
I was that way too. Everybody was raving about it so I wanted to finish but it was a struggle.
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 4:23 PM
Anyone seen You’re the Best? Is it funny? Is it a happy ending. I need something to curb my Hotel de Luna withdrawals.
Started Potato Star and then it hit me… how THAT ended🤦🏻♀️.
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
September 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM
“You’re the Best” ? As in “You’re the Best, Lee Soon Shin” ?
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM
Yes
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
September 2, 2019 at 4:40 PM
It has a happy ending, but the process in order to get to said happy ending is super makjang and requires lots of fast-forwarding
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 4:58 PM
I’ll take it! 😂
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
September 2, 2019 at 6:15 PM
Happy watching 🙂
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 4:59 PM
Thanks
blnmom
September 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM
I loooooved Potato Star. That’s how I became a Yeo Jingoo fan. But I didn’t like the ending, you’re right.
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 7:58 PM
Even his comedies all break my heart at the end.😔
FlyingTool
September 2, 2019 at 5:45 PM
It has its moments, but it also has its makjang sequences. And it has a big ensemble cast…
Given how far IU has come as an artist, it is an interesting watch. Was for me anyway.
sph_7
September 3, 2019 at 9:30 AM
I’m watching, but it’s not helping that Manager Noh, her father here, dies in the first few episodes 😭
sph_7
September 2, 2019 at 2:13 PM
Hong Sisters response to finale:
https://twitter.com/melloviciousiu/status/1168529735820791811
sph_7
September 1, 2019 at 9:21 PM
Probably the last of Chan Sung’s poems.
Thank you Jingoo!
SuShin
September 2, 2019 at 5:19 AM
Beautiful. All the precious things although they are no longer here, if we can still remember, they will never go away.