The scenes today remind me about a family with BY the mom, MH the dad, and their unruly, bickering children (And I’m not even talking about romantic MinHoYoung
P.D. RIP Alligator, you’re finally free!
Even Dramabeans is indecisive about the male lead in APAD: The Fav is near Dr Ye face, and the “My Shows” on my profile shows just Min Ho’s face XD
So, is a draw, isn’t it? XD (Or DB is on neutral XD)
The last one, I promise XD (at least for today XD); but I really liked this song, and this drama is beautiful and I fell in love with this vid too ❤❤❤ (soo many talented vidders ❤❤❤)
1. They are one of the best OTPs ever and Bok-joo is one of the best drama heroines ever and Joon-hyung is 100% boyfriend material and one of the best male leads ever
2. I always mean to tell you this but I love your profile pic so mich, it makes me ridiculously happy whenever I see it
1- You are totally right ❤ They were awesome individually and together they were “SWAG!!!” ❤❤ And their ending was so… perfect ❤❤ There was never noble idiocy, and both supported each other and had fun together and they were like not just lovers but best friends too and I think that is wonderful.
2- Aww, thank you very much. I ❤ that my profile pic makes you happy; there is another of my favorites dramas where I love absolutely everyone but them will always have a special place in my heart ❤
*tries not to yell in excitement* Yes they ARE. Total aces, totally real, relatable, healthy, and swoon-worthy. I adore them so much, thank you for sharing!
Now I see the couple that MinHoYoung kinda makes me remember ❤ (Plus she had a crush in someone older and more mature XD)
JH❤BJ were love❤ If MinHoYoung would have this development I would be so happy
I want to say the in the whole scene with Lee Yoo Bi in the last ep I was NW and JY the whole time; they were so weirded out, and I felt like \”LOL, WUT, WHT I am watching?\” It was funny but so bizarre
I couldn’t watch it when it was airing and just got to watch it last week…OMG, the cuteness!! I wasn’t really expecting much, to be honest, but was so pleasantly surprised!
I watched when it was airing and it was kind tortuous sometimes expecting for the next ep. I loved, and not just the relationships of the leads (even when OMG Min Kyu and Ji Ah had so much chemistry ❤❤❤ at least for me) but every character was sympathetic and in the end everyone was just a big family ❤❤ I cannot help it, I’m a sucker for dramas where everyone end not being that bad and everyone have a happy ending (At least if they deserve it, and in this case, they all did 😀 )
A couple of eps made me glad I hadn’t live-watched it, but at the same time I’m guessing it was a pretty fun drama to follow in DB so I feel like I missed out!
I feel like the cast in general had fantastic chemistry, they were just such a lovely family. I was incredibly surprised when I read it’d been kind of a failure in ratings!
I think that the failure in rating was, at least in part, for the premise of she being/not being a robot; to be honest I watched more because I LOVE both Yoo Seung Ho and Chae Soo Bin (especially her, I liked since Spy and I’ve watched every one of her dramas -even if some of them not complete-) but I stayed because I love their characters and their dynamics and yes, I think that they had great chemistry. And yes, it was loved for most the people that it saw it at DB so this was that too ❤
YES!!! I was partially uncomfortable because I felt like a boyeur, intruding in sometheing pretty intimate (They were SO into it, seriously) but mostly I was pretty giddy ❤❤❤ Because, d*mn guys!! That was… intense XD I was pretty sure that time after the drama would end they will come clear and say that they are dating XD
But well, Chae Soo Bin has pretty good kissing scenes in Rebel too, and even when I didn’t liked Ruler Yoo Seung Ho wasn’t bad at kissing either XD So… Still, the BTS was great and I loved it as much as the drama in itself XD
Againt my better judgement, I just went ahead and watched…ugh!
I had such a hard time with Seung-ho because he’s one of those actors I’ve watched since he was a kid so when he started to grow up I was like “weird, he’s becoming a man!” and then I watched INAR, and now this BTS and it’s like “how did this puppy become a man right before my eyes??” lol
Oh, I didn’t have it with him but I understand the feeling, what with seeing Yeo Jin Goo and Kim So Hyun since they were just little kids to now, it’s kind of… difficult XD (Kim Yoo Jung too, but she hasn’t got so many “adult” roles with kissing scenes and that XD)
@natzillagorilla Yeo Jin-goo is only a couple years younger than me but even I see him as a baby! When he was in talks for The Great Seducer it actually made me laugh. Glad he didn’t accept that one, for multiple reasons.
Perfect final was perfect. I loved everything about the end of Waikiki, and I\’m gonna miss it a lot. It wasn\’t perfect but it was charming and goodhearted show that will stay with me for a long time ❤
And to make it worse the last second comes a new family and when the mother calls their children to dinner the last face that you see is … DUN DUN DUN DUN… The Daughter!!! (But she has another name) So she says that she is going, looks at the camera and it end. And you stay there, watching in a state of WTF and then flips the table because God D*ammit!
I couldn’t reply as well! A msg kept saying I was using an inappropriate word and kept deducting 1 (-1) but I didn’t type anything weird so I think it’s a glitch.
YESSS! They always dramatised the last few moments of each moment so they can capture shocked looking faces and do that flashed over special effect. I’m just sitting there like ARGHH what is going on! Why is everyone so twisted and everything so interrelated? Flipping the table after watching a daily drama is like a national sport in my household. Everyone gets so annoyed.
And the characters are more indecisive than Dr. Dae Bang. I mean the “Let’s be a decent person, let’s be a human trash bag” kind of dilemma is a thing, befuddling yes, but I can get it (even when they switch back and forth and you must make a chart to keep right who is doing evil thing and who is a Saint every single week) but when “OMG, I am the Master of Manipulators and the smarter evil genius that has ever being evil” to “OMG what’s is 2+2… is the answer 23?… Joking I know that the answer is Rain” Like WUT? It’s just not a question of how no one see the obvious evil person that the he/she (most probably she, because that’s how must drama roll) is, the question is how does survives the everyday life when the character is SO dumb.
And everyone when is not batshit crazy will have the personality of a wet paper. It’s fact XD
You summarize it perfectly! Like I get so confused when they keep switching sides because they actually have a 10000068 step plan that requires a lot of manipulations, deals and side stories. The annoying thing is that the viewers don’t get to see the craftiness from the 3rd view and appreciate the planning, NAH we’re just dumped with all the angst and then in the last few eps are told it’s all part of the grand plan and that the ending will be good. Except the ending is too sweet, wrapped up in bows of forgiveness eg.amnesia, sudden character turn-around etc.
Your right about the personalities, such of the characters are so woefully limp and underdeveloped, they serve no purpose but legit furniture (Eg. Gook Du in SWDBS, he had so much potential but remained 2-D throughout). Also dramas always make the girl 2nd lead so crazy/scheming and out of the world that I’m just like now you’re practically forcing me to despise her with all this out-of-the-world unnaturalness. *shakes head*
Also, I love how we’re having this random discussion that sprung from noble idiocy! Interacting with other beanies is so fun! 😊
Right? I mean, discussing and poking fun at things that I begrudgingly love is one of my favorite things.
Everything that you say is so in point; one of the things that I love of new dramas is that, even if not a lot you would find Second Lead Ladies that aren’t really hateful (even if is not something as common as should be). Ex: Ri El in “I’m not a Robot” o Soo Ah in Waikiki.
And sometimes you would find the very few rarier species of k-drama seconds leads female that are in love with the hero AND aren’t the personification of evil (Shocking, I know!!! See, Drama Gods, you can make one lady in love with someone that isn’t in love with her AND don’t make her a total psycho) Ex: Shi Ho in Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo.
Sometimes they are very hateful but given that everyones hates them I start to love them just to spite the drama (that and most times the heroine kinda gets on my last nerve… Is so difficult to make a drama with two sympathetic -if sometimes very flawed- leading ladies) Ex. Rachel in The Heirs.
I’m all for Second lead ladies not being obsessive, crazy, manipulative or hateful because it’s not healthy and doesn’t occur as frequently in real life as in dramas. Adding to your examples: the lady from BTIOFL who went so far as getting the two leads together by giving love advice to them. She’d already moved on and so was in a happy place. Soo Ah did this too in Woohoo Waikik. Sure, initially she was self- centred but she was never hateful and she eventually grew more open.
I’m so glad Shi Ho’s story was resolved without any additional drama and Weightlifting Fairy remains an amazing drama to be cherished. They took such a simple story but made it so natural, organic and GRAND that I fell in love. Definitely one of the bests – I preferred it 100 times more than SWDBS because the friends trio (SWAG!) was amazing, parental relationships were spot on and the theme of chasing dreams were executed perfectly.
I agree with your last point – it may to do with writiers following the same generic tropes tho since I’m starying to see diversity in the story lines who knows maybe it’ll happy. I was so happy to start my 2018 with my first drama- Misty, that featured a morally grey, complex , unlovable- lovable female lead because I was so used to seeing candy heroines (with some exceptions eg Lee Yuri in Father is Strange who was a confident badass). So the fact that now there are more diverse stories are getting me really excited!
@fencejumper (Again I could not reply to your last comment so I do there XD). Yes, I mean, most dramas would make you believe that every other female that is not the lead is a she devil that hates her either because they like the same person and that person likes the lead or for another contrived reason (I mean, in a lot of this cases, I suppose that I could be a bit upset and very befuddled if the guy that I like/love/am obsessed with falls for someone that is more boring that what white paint dry but I would be like “Whatever, your loss” and not waste my time on them).
I loved the SFL in BTIOFL, she was wonderful and one of my favorites character. I kinda never forgave Se Hee’s family for treating her like they did, but I’m glad that she had move on because she deserved everything good for being awesome ❤❤❤.
WFKBJ was a very underrated (in Korea) gem. I loved it so much, and I liked every single character so much; the friendships were awesome, the families were great (the only one that was not was Joon Hyung’s biological mother, but she served her purpose: show that he had a precious family and loving girlfriend that loved him a lot), the SFL was a very nice, if somewhat flawed, girl that had a lot of pressure on her shoulders to be successful and, for the 99% of time was nothing but polite and friendly to Bok Joo and the leads were asajdlsad ❤❤❤ (Sorry, my brain kinda were overdrive… I love this couple sooo much)
Besides, another thing that I loved was that Joon Hyung was always kind and a good friend, but firm in the fact that he didn’t like her anymore, to Ji Ho, most leads either treat the Second Female Lady like trash or are wishy washy with them that you don’t know if they really love the female lead and both of the extremes makes me feel uncomfortable.
Joon Hyung was a sweetheart and Bok Joo was very relatable and their relationship was one of my favorite OTP’s.
I was very disappointed in SWDBS; I couldn’t watch more than a episode because I disliked pretty much everything about it, even when I loved the cast… so I’m probably not the best to talk about the drama XD (Probably is because I had so high expectations even months that it began and had such a similar premise to WFKBJ and when it did… yep, not my cup of tea XD). I mean, I’ve looked videos about Min Hyuk and Bong Soon because everyone was saying that they had really intense chemistry and they are very cute, yes (I mean Park Bo Young is impossibly cute and Park Hyun Shik is really handsome so… XD) probably the only reason that I don’t swoon about them is because I didn’t see the drama beyond the first ep (and I didn’t like Bong Soon very much).
Soo Ah is love, Soo Ah is life ❤❤❤ I adore her ❤ (Well, I love everyone on Waikiki but she was such a wonderful surprise… I never hated her but I never thought at the start of the drama that I would love her so much). Continue below
The first sympathetic Second Female Lead in a Korean drama that I saw was Lee Min Jung in Boys over Flowers but she was sympathetic in every adaptation so… (Well, besides I shipped Jan Di with Ji Ho and I thought that she made a really good couple with Joon Pyo, so that probably helped too XD)
I’ve heard a lot of praise to Misty yes, and I hope that the trend of making multifacetic leading ladies continue… However, I hope that they have a happier ending that her, even when I didn’t watch the drama her ending seem so sad.
I’ve got SLS before, I’ve got SLS after but no case broke me heart as much as them. I could write a essay in how much School 2015 wounded my very soul and IT.WOULD’NT.BE.ENOUGH.
So… suffer with me?
Talking about second female leads made me want to share two videos about them. Because I loved every single one of them (even the crazy ones) showed there; and because they are always so maligned.
FSL
I wanna have a post with all the MinHoYoung shippers so when I do a post about them I can tag you XD So anyone that wants me to tag them on the ship posts, comment saying me or something. Below:
To be completely honest I\’m not sure which couple will be the endgame in APAD, both have a lot of good reasons to be, but like a MinHoYoung shipper I will give my reasons to ship it.
1- They have history: Sure, not a nice one, but history nonetheless.
A shared history serves to show a few things: their kind of bond that they had in the past, how they end up like they are, but sometimes it serves to show how not make the same mistakes again and grow up. And this point is what I see most potential whith those two because both of them need to…
2-…Grow: Yes, both of them. Min Ho particulary but Bo Young needs to grow up. Meanwhile I think that Min Ho faults are obvious (and named a lot the times alredy), Bo Young is not perfect either (Yes, Iuff her, but I’m being unbiased right now -mostly, I mean, this is still at he end of the day reason why I ship them). And what better than to they grow together? Bo Young is the first to call out Min Ho when he is messing around and she isn’t trying to live it up to a imaginary image that he might have of her (not anymore). With Min Ho, she is just herself (and I think that maybe this is what I love more of them)
3- Their Dynamic: They have gone through a lot of changes in their dynanimic, haven’t they? And it’s been just six episodes.
Min Ho has gone from object of affection, to someone that Bo Young kinda despises, to coworker that she doesn’t want to have annything to do with, to kinda-of-frenemies to a (mostly) good friend that she bickers with a lot.
The case with what meant Bo Young to Min Ho is more complex because we don’t know if he had feelings for her in the past or not, but let’s take his word at face value and say that he actually didn’t (something that I’m not sure)
To Min Ho, Bo Young goes from a friendly girl that is overly nice to him, to someone that has feelings for him that he reject and she attacked him for that (kind of), to someone that he’s indiferent/disdainful towards, to someone that he begrudginly respect, to someone that he likes to be around, to someone that he actually likes.
(Maybe I skiped something, but I think that this is more or less the heart of the matter)
Besides, they are equals, I mean she is his superior in the job (Yay! They are so few times that the woman is the one on the position with more power) but outside of that, they are most on the same level, Min Ho have quite childish antics, yes, but Bo Young can be quite excentric too (I love them so much <3)
Totally biased reasons:
1- I'm not really into cold or distant characters (most the times at least); yes Dr. Ye is different because he is actually nice to Bo Young but… I don't know. I'm just not into that kinda of characters usually.
(Continue below)
2- I am kinda a weird person XD I see a character being hated, I would probably go to love them a lot (at least that they rub me the wrong way too XD) This happened with Min Ho, I saw a lot of hate to him, and a lot of love to Dr Ye sooo, I went and become protective of Min Ho and kinda indifferent to Dr Ye. I like him, really, and I understand why other people loves him… but when people rave about something that I don’t really care one way or another a spitefull part of me go “Do Not Want” (Yes, I’m pretty complicated) (Still, I wanna stress that I don’t hate Dr Ye, I just don’t love him either)
3- In resumen the hearts wants what it wants and my hearts wants MinHoYoung to be cannon.
My reason for being on the MinHoYoung ship is really simple: I prefer the way Bo Young is (today) when she’s around Min Ho, than the way she is when she’s with Dr Ye.
From giving him a pollacking to giving him a cake, I just really like her when she’s around him.
(Clearly this can all change! I have been known to change ships before but writer-nim will have to work hard to make that happen!)
You’re welcome 😀 Me too, they are my favorite kind of love stories (Well, sometimes the I love me some of love-hate ships; and I’m very lucky that MinHoYoung is a bit of both)
“she isn’t trying to live it up to a imaginary image that he might have of her (not anymore). With Min Ho, she is just herself (and I think that maybe this is what I love more of them)”
With Dr. Ye she is trying to be someone she normally isn’t. She isn’t comfortable being herself with him. Also, she is seeing an idealized version of Dr. Ye based on her very vivid imagination.
She and MinHo are comfortable being themselves with each other and are there for each other during hard times 💕
Yes to the character growth! 🙌 That’s why I’m a MinYoung shipper, it’s because they’re already affecting each other for the better. Sure they may have flaws but once they start positively influencing each other I’m all for them.
This was my very first 50 eps drama and it will always have a special place in my heart. Plus, it kinda did something new with the whole “First Love” thing on this triangle (which I loved).
Yes, I loved the family; the dad was wonderful, and all his kids grow up at the end; was pretty heartwarming, sometimes funny and sometimes a little heartbreaking… like life itself.
And talking about APAD made me nostalgic for the one Yoo Bi couple that I love the most: Woo Bin & Yoo Bi. They were my favorite OTP on the Sitcom; I still dream for a romcom with them being the leads
My babies who I love beyond reason <3 Like, seriously, I love with all my heart Jung Ki & Seo Jin, and I like a lot Dong Gu y Yoo Na too, but these two own me 😀
They are awesome!! They have become such good friends… and their relationship have shades of on my favorites tropes: Like a Married Couple what with the bickering but spending a lot time together.
And the parts when they are with Sol are sooo asajdahsal (Error: Too much cuteness has overload the brain with fluffy clouds. Error)
Vicki
April 24, 2018 at 11:33 PM
The scenes today remind me about a family with BY the mom, MH the dad, and their unruly, bickering children (And I’m not even talking about romantic MinHoYoung
P.D. RIP Alligator, you’re finally free!
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 2:15 PM
Even Dramabeans is indecisive about the male lead in APAD: The Fav is near Dr Ye face, and the “My Shows” on my profile shows just Min Ho’s face XD
So, is a draw, isn’t it? XD (Or DB is on neutral XD)
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 2:03 PM
The last one, I promise XD (at least for today XD); but I really liked this song, and this drama is beautiful and I fell in love with this vid too ❤❤❤ (soo many talented vidders ❤❤❤)
mindy
April 19, 2018 at 2:04 PM
I really like this song, too! Thanks for sharing! <3
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 2:07 PM
You’re welcome!!! 😀
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 1:36 PM
Another vid about Joon Hyung and Bok Joo because they were perfect and they deserve it ❤
mindy
April 19, 2018 at 1:40 PM
1. They are one of the best OTPs ever and Bok-joo is one of the best drama heroines ever and Joon-hyung is 100% boyfriend material and one of the best male leads ever
2. I always mean to tell you this but I love your profile pic so mich, it makes me ridiculously happy whenever I see it
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 1:52 PM
1- You are totally right ❤ They were awesome individually and together they were “SWAG!!!” ❤❤ And their ending was so… perfect ❤❤ There was never noble idiocy, and both supported each other and had fun together and they were like not just lovers but best friends too and I think that is wonderful.
2- Aww, thank you very much. I ❤ that my profile pic makes you happy; there is another of my favorites dramas where I love absolutely everyone but them will always have a special place in my heart ❤
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 19, 2018 at 2:15 PM
*tries not to yell in excitement* Yes they ARE. Total aces, totally real, relatable, healthy, and swoon-worthy. I adore them so much, thank you for sharing!
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 2:19 PM
You’re welcome!!! 😀 And yes, they are all of this and fun, sweet, in just a word: Perfect ❤ (Oh, I miss them so much)
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 19, 2018 at 2:54 PM
Yes, perfect just about sums them up. I just want them with me always.. (Me too… I could watch them be silly and crazy and in love forever.)
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 1:21 PM
Now I see the couple that MinHoYoung kinda makes me remember ❤ (Plus she had a crush in someone older and more mature XD)
JH❤BJ were love❤ If MinHoYoung would have this development I would be so happy
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
April 19, 2018 at 1:30 PM
You’re right. I can see the similarities 🙂
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 19, 2018 at 2:15 PM
*swoons and dies*
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 2:21 PM
Oh, no, don’t die!!! If you die you couldn’t see more swoon worthy videos of your OTPs and that could be pretty tragic!!!
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 19, 2018 at 2:53 PM
😂 Very true! Alright, for now, I shall stay alive.
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 7:02 AM
I want to say the in the whole scene with Lee Yoo Bi in the last ep I was NW and JY the whole time; they were so weirded out, and I felt like \”LOL, WUT, WHT I am watching?\” It was funny but so bizarre
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 2:43 PM
Another drama that I loved from the start till the very end and I miss it ❤❤❤
natzillagorilla
April 18, 2018 at 2:54 PM
I couldn’t watch it when it was airing and just got to watch it last week…OMG, the cuteness!! I wasn’t really expecting much, to be honest, but was so pleasantly surprised!
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 3:01 PM
I watched when it was airing and it was kind tortuous sometimes expecting for the next ep. I loved, and not just the relationships of the leads (even when OMG Min Kyu and Ji Ah had so much chemistry ❤❤❤ at least for me) but every character was sympathetic and in the end everyone was just a big family ❤❤ I cannot help it, I’m a sucker for dramas where everyone end not being that bad and everyone have a happy ending (At least if they deserve it, and in this case, they all did 😀 )
natzillagorilla
April 18, 2018 at 3:32 PM
A couple of eps made me glad I hadn’t live-watched it, but at the same time I’m guessing it was a pretty fun drama to follow in DB so I feel like I missed out!
I feel like the cast in general had fantastic chemistry, they were just such a lovely family. I was incredibly surprised when I read it’d been kind of a failure in ratings!
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 3:40 PM
I think that the failure in rating was, at least in part, for the premise of she being/not being a robot; to be honest I watched more because I LOVE both Yoo Seung Ho and Chae Soo Bin (especially her, I liked since Spy and I’ve watched every one of her dramas -even if some of them not complete-) but I stayed because I love their characters and their dynamics and yes, I think that they had great chemistry. And yes, it was loved for most the people that it saw it at DB so this was that too ❤
mindy
April 18, 2018 at 3:02 PM
Have you seen the BTS for the kitchen counter kiss? OMG. Almost uncomfortable to watch, they got so into it. 😂
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 3:09 PM
YES!!! I was partially uncomfortable because I felt like a boyeur, intruding in sometheing pretty intimate (They were SO into it, seriously) but mostly I was pretty giddy ❤❤❤ Because, d*mn guys!! That was… intense XD I was pretty sure that time after the drama would end they will come clear and say that they are dating XD
But well, Chae Soo Bin has pretty good kissing scenes in Rebel too, and even when I didn’t liked Ruler Yoo Seung Ho wasn’t bad at kissing either XD So… Still, the BTS was great and I loved it as much as the drama in itself XD
natzillagorilla
April 18, 2018 at 3:38 PM
Againt my better judgement, I just went ahead and watched…ugh!
I had such a hard time with Seung-ho because he’s one of those actors I’ve watched since he was a kid so when he started to grow up I was like “weird, he’s becoming a man!” and then I watched INAR, and now this BTS and it’s like “how did this puppy become a man right before my eyes??” lol
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 3:45 PM
Oh, I didn’t have it with him but I understand the feeling, what with seeing Yeo Jin Goo and Kim So Hyun since they were just little kids to now, it’s kind of… difficult XD (Kim Yoo Jung too, but she hasn’t got so many “adult” roles with kissing scenes and that XD)
natzillagorilla
April 18, 2018 at 3:52 PM
Yeo Jin-goo is still a puppy!! I don’t think I’ll be able to ever see him as an actual man…I’m 11years older than him!
mindy
April 18, 2018 at 4:23 PM
@natzillagorilla Yeo Jin-goo is only a couple years younger than me but even I see him as a baby! When he was in talks for The Great Seducer it actually made me laugh. Glad he didn’t accept that one, for multiple reasons.
natzillagorilla
April 18, 2018 at 6:44 PM
@mindy oh dear!! I didn’t know he’d been offered the part! I don’t think I’m ready to see him in that type of role lol
Vicki
April 17, 2018 at 7:59 PM
Perfect final was perfect. I loved everything about the end of Waikiki, and I\’m gonna miss it a lot. It wasn\’t perfect but it was charming and goodhearted show that will stay with me for a long time ❤
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM
@fencejumper (I don\’t know why I can\’t reply your last comment so I replay you here)
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:09 PM
And to make it worse the last second comes a new family and when the mother calls their children to dinner the last face that you see is … DUN DUN DUN DUN… The Daughter!!! (But she has another name) So she says that she is going, looks at the camera and it end. And you stay there, watching in a state of WTF and then flips the table because God D*ammit!
fencejumper
April 16, 2018 at 11:24 PM
I couldn’t reply as well! A msg kept saying I was using an inappropriate word and kept deducting 1 (-1) but I didn’t type anything weird so I think it’s a glitch.
YESSS! They always dramatised the last few moments of each moment so they can capture shocked looking faces and do that flashed over special effect. I’m just sitting there like ARGHH what is going on! Why is everyone so twisted and everything so interrelated? Flipping the table after watching a daily drama is like a national sport in my household. Everyone gets so annoyed.
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM
And the characters are more indecisive than Dr. Dae Bang. I mean the “Let’s be a decent person, let’s be a human trash bag” kind of dilemma is a thing, befuddling yes, but I can get it (even when they switch back and forth and you must make a chart to keep right who is doing evil thing and who is a Saint every single week) but when “OMG, I am the Master of Manipulators and the smarter evil genius that has ever being evil” to “OMG what’s is 2+2… is the answer 23?… Joking I know that the answer is Rain” Like WUT? It’s just not a question of how no one see the obvious evil person that the he/she (most probably she, because that’s how must drama roll) is, the question is how does survives the everyday life when the character is SO dumb.
And everyone when is not batshit crazy will have the personality of a wet paper. It’s fact XD
fencejumper
April 16, 2018 at 11:57 PM
You summarize it perfectly! Like I get so confused when they keep switching sides because they actually have a 10000068 step plan that requires a lot of manipulations, deals and side stories. The annoying thing is that the viewers don’t get to see the craftiness from the 3rd view and appreciate the planning, NAH we’re just dumped with all the angst and then in the last few eps are told it’s all part of the grand plan and that the ending will be good. Except the ending is too sweet, wrapped up in bows of forgiveness eg.amnesia, sudden character turn-around etc.
Your right about the personalities, such of the characters are so woefully limp and underdeveloped, they serve no purpose but legit furniture (Eg. Gook Du in SWDBS, he had so much potential but remained 2-D throughout). Also dramas always make the girl 2nd lead so crazy/scheming and out of the world that I’m just like now you’re practically forcing me to despise her with all this out-of-the-world unnaturalness. *shakes head*
Also, I love how we’re having this random discussion that sprung from noble idiocy! Interacting with other beanies is so fun! 😊
Vicki
April 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM
Right? I mean, discussing and poking fun at things that I begrudgingly love is one of my favorite things.
Everything that you say is so in point; one of the things that I love of new dramas is that, even if not a lot you would find Second Lead Ladies that aren’t really hateful (even if is not something as common as should be). Ex: Ri El in “I’m not a Robot” o Soo Ah in Waikiki.
And sometimes you would find the very few rarier species of k-drama seconds leads female that are in love with the hero AND aren’t the personification of evil (Shocking, I know!!! See, Drama Gods, you can make one lady in love with someone that isn’t in love with her AND don’t make her a total psycho) Ex: Shi Ho in Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo.
Sometimes they are very hateful but given that everyones hates them I start to love them just to spite the drama (that and most times the heroine kinda gets on my last nerve… Is so difficult to make a drama with two sympathetic -if sometimes very flawed- leading ladies) Ex. Rachel in The Heirs.
fencejumper
April 17, 2018 at 9:21 PM
I’m all for Second lead ladies not being obsessive, crazy, manipulative or hateful because it’s not healthy and doesn’t occur as frequently in real life as in dramas. Adding to your examples: the lady from BTIOFL who went so far as getting the two leads together by giving love advice to them. She’d already moved on and so was in a happy place. Soo Ah did this too in Woohoo Waikik. Sure, initially she was self- centred but she was never hateful and she eventually grew more open.
I’m so glad Shi Ho’s story was resolved without any additional drama and Weightlifting Fairy remains an amazing drama to be cherished. They took such a simple story but made it so natural, organic and GRAND that I fell in love. Definitely one of the bests – I preferred it 100 times more than SWDBS because the friends trio (SWAG!) was amazing, parental relationships were spot on and the theme of chasing dreams were executed perfectly.
I agree with your last point – it may to do with writiers following the same generic tropes tho since I’m starying to see diversity in the story lines who knows maybe it’ll happy. I was so happy to start my 2018 with my first drama- Misty, that featured a morally grey, complex , unlovable- lovable female lead because I was so used to seeing candy heroines (with some exceptions eg Lee Yuri in Father is Strange who was a confident badass). So the fact that now there are more diverse stories are getting me really excited!
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 11:28 AM
@fencejumper (Again I could not reply to your last comment so I do there XD). Yes, I mean, most dramas would make you believe that every other female that is not the lead is a she devil that hates her either because they like the same person and that person likes the lead or for another contrived reason (I mean, in a lot of this cases, I suppose that I could be a bit upset and very befuddled if the guy that I like/love/am obsessed with falls for someone that is more boring that what white paint dry but I would be like “Whatever, your loss” and not waste my time on them).
I loved the SFL in BTIOFL, she was wonderful and one of my favorites character. I kinda never forgave Se Hee’s family for treating her like they did, but I’m glad that she had move on because she deserved everything good for being awesome ❤❤❤.
WFKBJ was a very underrated (in Korea) gem. I loved it so much, and I liked every single character so much; the friendships were awesome, the families were great (the only one that was not was Joon Hyung’s biological mother, but she served her purpose: show that he had a precious family and loving girlfriend that loved him a lot), the SFL was a very nice, if somewhat flawed, girl that had a lot of pressure on her shoulders to be successful and, for the 99% of time was nothing but polite and friendly to Bok Joo and the leads were asajdlsad ❤❤❤ (Sorry, my brain kinda were overdrive… I love this couple sooo much)
Besides, another thing that I loved was that Joon Hyung was always kind and a good friend, but firm in the fact that he didn’t like her anymore, to Ji Ho, most leads either treat the Second Female Lady like trash or are wishy washy with them that you don’t know if they really love the female lead and both of the extremes makes me feel uncomfortable.
Joon Hyung was a sweetheart and Bok Joo was very relatable and their relationship was one of my favorite OTP’s.
I was very disappointed in SWDBS; I couldn’t watch more than a episode because I disliked pretty much everything about it, even when I loved the cast… so I’m probably not the best to talk about the drama XD (Probably is because I had so high expectations even months that it began and had such a similar premise to WFKBJ and when it did… yep, not my cup of tea XD). I mean, I’ve looked videos about Min Hyuk and Bong Soon because everyone was saying that they had really intense chemistry and they are very cute, yes (I mean Park Bo Young is impossibly cute and Park Hyun Shik is really handsome so… XD) probably the only reason that I don’t swoon about them is because I didn’t see the drama beyond the first ep (and I didn’t like Bong Soon very much).
Soo Ah is love, Soo Ah is life ❤❤❤ I adore her ❤ (Well, I love everyone on Waikiki but she was such a wonderful surprise… I never hated her but I never thought at the start of the drama that I would love her so much). Continue below
Vicki
April 18, 2018 at 11:29 AM
The first sympathetic Second Female Lead in a Korean drama that I saw was Lee Min Jung in Boys over Flowers but she was sympathetic in every adaptation so… (Well, besides I shipped Jan Di with Ji Ho and I thought that she made a really good couple with Joon Pyo, so that probably helped too XD)
I’ve heard a lot of praise to Misty yes, and I hope that the trend of making multifacetic leading ladies continue… However, I hope that they have a happier ending that her, even when I didn’t watch the drama her ending seem so sad.
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 10:50 PM
I’ve got SLS before, I’ve got SLS after but no case broke me heart as much as them. I could write a essay in how much School 2015 wounded my very soul and IT.WOULD’NT.BE.ENOUGH.
So… suffer with me?
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM
And the other one:
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM
Talking about second female leads made me want to share two videos about them. Because I loved every single one of them (even the crazy ones) showed there; and because they are always so maligned.
FSL
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 6:47 AM
Oh, I’m not a candy anymore!!!! I’m a Jang Geu-rae beanie.
And to celebrate let’s make a little victory dance:
Waadmay
April 16, 2018 at 6:50 AM
Congrats 🎊🎊🎉🎉
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 6:50 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
Kudo Ran
April 16, 2018 at 6:56 AM
congrats 🙂
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:04 AM
Thank you!!! 😀
Cocoa, The Fake Poet of February
April 16, 2018 at 6:58 AM
Congrats! Nice victory dance ~
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:04 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
Giegie
April 16, 2018 at 7:03 AM
Congrats!
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:06 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
April 16, 2018 at 7:08 AM
Congrats! Taehyungiieeeeeee
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:10 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
delphy
April 16, 2018 at 7:10 AM
Congrats! 🎈
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:11 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
korfan
April 16, 2018 at 7:11 AM
Congratulations!
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 7:14 AM
Thank you!!!! 😀
Lixie
April 16, 2018 at 8:02 AM
Do Jan Geu Rae beanies get to write only 200 characters on each post on the wall because of that?
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 8:05 AM
I’m not sure… like a candy I could write just 200 words in the posts on the wall too
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 16, 2018 at 8:09 AM
Nope, that’s a restriction bound to all. But there is a hack to change it.
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 16, 2018 at 8:09 AM
Congrats!! (and Taehyung victory dances are the best dances! 😂)
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Right? Taehyung happy dancing makes me a happy dancer too 😀 and Thank you!!!! 😀
Aliaa
April 16, 2018 at 8:25 AM
Congratulations !!!🎇🎇🎉 I guess I can see you at work??
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 8:35 AM
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Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 8:36 AM
Yes, of course 🙂 And thank you!!!! 😀
https://imgs.niusnews.com/upload/imgs/default/16JanW/misang/a.gif
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
April 16, 2018 at 10:45 PM
Congrats!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 5:20 AM
I wanna have a post with all the MinHoYoung shippers so when I do a post about them I can tag you XD So anyone that wants me to tag them on the ship posts, comment saying me or something. Below:
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 5:25 AM
@raonah @estee @giegie0384 @cloggie @kudoran @aliaa @fencejumper @bammsie @letseatcookies @tspmasala
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 5:27 AM
You can add someone that you know that wants to see the posts (Or ask me to untag you XD) 😀
Giegie
April 16, 2018 at 5:28 AM
🙋🏻♀️^^
fencejumper
April 16, 2018 at 5:31 AM
YAY 🙌
🍙 kimbap noona
April 16, 2018 at 6:10 AM
@kimbapnoona
Safeenah
April 16, 2018 at 6:13 AM
I am a Ye liner, is it ohk for me ton be tagged to?
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 6:39 AM
Yeah, of course 😀
Safeenah
April 16, 2018 at 7:01 AM
Kumowo 😊
allphryne
April 16, 2018 at 6:42 AM
For all 🚢
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
April 16, 2018 at 10:48 PM
Please tag me in all ship related posts 🙂
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 10:50 PM
Will do 😀
letseatcookies
April 18, 2018 at 6:24 AM
YASSSS!!
fay17
April 19, 2018 at 9:59 AM
Tag me too, please! ^^
Vicki
April 19, 2018 at 10:12 AM
Will do 😀
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 3:57 PM
Another video that I found of MinHoYoung (They are very few but all precious) @bammsie @estee @giegie0384 @aliaa @raonah @kudoran @letseatcookies @cloggie @tspmasala
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 15, 2018 at 3:59 PM
Cuuuuuute!
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 4:04 PM
Right? They are pretty underrated (outside of dramabeans) but I love them soooo much <3
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 15, 2018 at 4:06 PM
So thankful for db so we know we’re not alone in loving these sweethearts.. (pun.. not intended at first, but now is?)
Giegie
April 15, 2018 at 4:05 PM
Thank you! ^^
How cute are they?
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 4:09 PM
The cutest!!!
Cloggie
April 15, 2018 at 10:34 PM
What is she singing (at 1’40)? Is it ‘I’m sailing’?
#SailSailLittleShip
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 5:15 AM
It’s “I’m fading” But I liked your interpretation more soo… 😀
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 11:17 AM
To be completely honest I\’m not sure which couple will be the endgame in APAD, both have a lot of good reasons to be, but like a MinHoYoung shipper I will give my reasons to ship it.
Continue below:
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 11:18 AM
Relativaly unbiased:
1- They have history: Sure, not a nice one, but history nonetheless.
A shared history serves to show a few things: their kind of bond that they had in the past, how they end up like they are, but sometimes it serves to show how not make the same mistakes again and grow up. And this point is what I see most potential whith those two because both of them need to…
2-…Grow: Yes, both of them. Min Ho particulary but Bo Young needs to grow up. Meanwhile I think that Min Ho faults are obvious (and named a lot the times alredy), Bo Young is not perfect either (Yes, Iuff her, but I’m being unbiased right now -mostly, I mean, this is still at he end of the day reason why I ship them). And what better than to they grow together? Bo Young is the first to call out Min Ho when he is messing around and she isn’t trying to live it up to a imaginary image that he might have of her (not anymore). With Min Ho, she is just herself (and I think that maybe this is what I love more of them)
3- Their Dynamic: They have gone through a lot of changes in their dynanimic, haven’t they? And it’s been just six episodes.
Min Ho has gone from object of affection, to someone that Bo Young kinda despises, to coworker that she doesn’t want to have annything to do with, to kinda-of-frenemies to a (mostly) good friend that she bickers with a lot.
The case with what meant Bo Young to Min Ho is more complex because we don’t know if he had feelings for her in the past or not, but let’s take his word at face value and say that he actually didn’t (something that I’m not sure)
To Min Ho, Bo Young goes from a friendly girl that is overly nice to him, to someone that has feelings for him that he reject and she attacked him for that (kind of), to someone that he’s indiferent/disdainful towards, to someone that he begrudginly respect, to someone that he likes to be around, to someone that he actually likes.
(Maybe I skiped something, but I think that this is more or less the heart of the matter)
Besides, they are equals, I mean she is his superior in the job (Yay! They are so few times that the woman is the one on the position with more power) but outside of that, they are most on the same level, Min Ho have quite childish antics, yes, but Bo Young can be quite excentric too (I love them so much <3)
Totally biased reasons:
1- I'm not really into cold or distant characters (most the times at least); yes Dr. Ye is different because he is actually nice to Bo Young but… I don't know. I'm just not into that kinda of characters usually.
(Continue below)
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 11:23 AM
2- I am kinda a weird person XD I see a character being hated, I would probably go to love them a lot (at least that they rub me the wrong way too XD) This happened with Min Ho, I saw a lot of hate to him, and a lot of love to Dr Ye sooo, I went and become protective of Min Ho and kinda indifferent to Dr Ye. I like him, really, and I understand why other people loves him… but when people rave about something that I don’t really care one way or another a spitefull part of me go “Do Not Want” (Yes, I’m pretty complicated) (Still, I wanna stress that I don’t hate Dr Ye, I just don’t love him either)
3- In resumen the hearts wants what it wants and my hearts wants MinHoYoung to be cannon.
Tagging my fellow MinHoYoung shippers: @aliaa @bammsie @giegie0384 @raonah @tspmasala @letseatcookies @cloggie @kudoran
Cloggie
April 15, 2018 at 11:28 AM
My reason for being on the MinHoYoung ship is really simple: I prefer the way Bo Young is (today) when she’s around Min Ho, than the way she is when she’s with Dr Ye.
From giving him a pollacking to giving him a cake, I just really like her when she’s around him.
(Clearly this can all change! I have been known to change ships before but writer-nim will have to work hard to make that happen!)
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 11:29 AM
Exact! This is my (main) reason 😀
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 15, 2018 at 12:10 PM
Exactement! She seems more herself, free to be silly and stupid and yell-y as well as sweet.
Giegie
April 15, 2018 at 4:00 PM
Thank you for the mention. ^^*
I love both guys but I started shipping MinHo & BoYoung since day one, I’m a such a sucker for friends to lovers story. <3
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 4:08 PM
You’re welcome 😀 Me too, they are my favorite kind of love stories (Well, sometimes the I love me some of love-hate ships; and I’m very lucky that MinHoYoung is a bit of both)
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 15, 2018 at 12:16 PM
*claps* Well said!!
Vicki
April 15, 2018 at 12:56 PM
Thank you very much 😀
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
April 15, 2018 at 8:20 PM
I love everything you wrote but especially:
“she isn’t trying to live it up to a imaginary image that he might have of her (not anymore). With Min Ho, she is just herself (and I think that maybe this is what I love more of them)”
With Dr. Ye she is trying to be someone she normally isn’t. She isn’t comfortable being herself with him. Also, she is seeing an idealized version of Dr. Ye based on her very vivid imagination.
She and MinHo are comfortable being themselves with each other and are there for each other during hard times 💕
Vicki
April 16, 2018 at 5:09 AM
Thank you, my Captain! 😀
fencejumper
April 15, 2018 at 9:28 PM
Yes to the character growth! 🙌 That’s why I’m a MinYoung shipper, it’s because they’re already affecting each other for the better. Sure they may have flaws but once they start positively influencing each other I’m all for them.
Vicki
April 14, 2018 at 3:41 AM
This was my very first 50 eps drama and it will always have a special place in my heart. Plus, it kinda did something new with the whole “First Love” thing on this triangle (which I loved).
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 14, 2018 at 12:01 PM
😂😂 This one was so fun. Kept me entertained the whole way through, and the growth and family was really sweet..
Vicki
April 14, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Yes, I loved the family; the dad was wonderful, and all his kids grow up at the end; was pretty heartwarming, sometimes funny and sometimes a little heartbreaking… like life itself.
bam 🐢🐌💖~
April 14, 2018 at 1:53 PM
Exactly.. *fans eyes* you expressed that very well..
Vicki
April 13, 2018 at 2:14 PM
And talking about APAD made me nostalgic for the one Yoo Bi couple that I love the most: Woo Bin & Yoo Bi. They were my favorite OTP on the Sitcom; I still dream for a romcom with them being the leads
Vicki
April 13, 2018 at 1:20 PM
My babies who I love beyond reason <3 Like, seriously, I love with all my heart Jung Ki & Seo Jin, and I like a lot Dong Gu y Yoo Na too, but these two own me 😀
mindy
April 13, 2018 at 1:36 PM
I haven’t seen this week’s episodes yet, but I think they’ve overtaken Jun-ki and Seo-jin as my favorite couple. I love them!
Vicki
April 13, 2018 at 1:45 PM
They are awesome!! They have become such good friends… and their relationship have shades of on my favorites tropes: Like a Married Couple what with the bickering but spending a lot time together.
And the parts when they are with Sol are sooo asajdahsal (Error: Too much cuteness has overload the brain with fluffy clouds. Error)
Vicki
April 13, 2018 at 1:15 PM
All that you need to know about Hwarang XD (I didn’t finished but given that I only liked the young secondary characters…)
Ban Ryu x Soo Yeon btw!