Thank you Writer Oh Ji-young-nim for showing us how to properly give your viewers a GIANT MIDDLE FINGER.
Please get off the DDSSLLS plane before episode 12 if you can, Beanies.
For myself? I would just sit here and let the drama plane blow up so my memories of E15 and 16 will go up in flames.
The show did give us so many really touching and cute moments which I am thankful for, and I would still say that it is a wonderful watch until episode 12. I was willing to overlook a number of things but this ending made its transgression impossible to forgive. I will never watch a show by this writer ever again.
@frabbycrabsis, that’s what people say to each other at funerals!! 🤣
At moments like this where collective rage is immeasurable, I certainly appreciate the mutual support from the awesome Beanie community. Let’s wish upon better and more twinkly stars that this type of psychological violence will never be bestowed upon us ever again.
Yep. I viscerally felt the writerโs contempt for the viewers the way that landed. Iโd put up with a whole lot of s#*% with the fake outs etc because Iโd trusted the storytelling only to feel like I had a giant pile dumped on me at the end. No good feelings at all.
So happy that I decided to wait out for Beanies’ feedback on the finale before I went back… Now I know I’m never going to go back to Dodo! (*laughs manically)
You’ve saved two! Count me on the “I’ve dropped because I can’t handle the age gap but I will wait and see if beanies convince be back”.
Guess Fly Colours and I did a wise move even if we didn’t know about it.
@eazal, you and Fly are much wiser! 😆 I honestly didn’t mind the age gap back then because everything the 19 year-old Jun did felt mature. The Writer fooled us all good, didn’t she?
Jun is a kid who grew up in a family in which the dad is emotionally abusive and the mom has temper regulation issues. I don’t blame him for running away, I don’t blame him for turning out to be the worst of the bunch. But he surely doesn’t deserve the friendships from everyone in Eunpo, and certainly not love from Ra-ra.
Recommendation for the new method (as shown below) to wipe the keyboard for the future.
Please let me know if the message is received via demonstrations (note: plural) in the next 8 episodes. Thank you in advance for your timely and detailed attention on this crucial matter that is important for the health of the DB community.
I am compiling a list of what I gather to be the most dedicated Brahmsie Beanies. Please let me know if you would like me to take you off the tag list!
hahaha @kimbapnoona, the videos are unavailable in my region aka Korea aka the origin. BWAHAHA…but I know what songs you mean. It was nice that they covered songs of artists and supporting their work.
😱😱😱 What a bad chingu I am, not realizing that you are a Brahmsie @mayhemf!! That bad chingu part I realize is also stemming of my inability to join you guys on Discord much.😞
Now I know you and @13infamyss are watching, I feel a wonderful sense of reunification from our Gangnam days. 🎉🎉🎉
Awesome @choijunu!! What a wonderful way to express love for DYLB! I hope there will be a Brahms sonata for violin and piano on the list by the end of the show 😆
Thank you @choijunu!! Now I want to print Bach’s BWV 208 out and play it on the piano (albeit very badly, but I feel like it will get me closer to nirvana after a difficult week.)
Haha I will be fine with any sonata as long as they will play it together as equal collaborative partners! But yes….op. 87 is absolutely sweet, passionate, intimate, warm, and heartfelt….OMG it makes me so happy to imagine that’s what their relationship will be like in the end. 💝
@13infamyss is the best swoonmate there is in DBverse!! We for sure would appreciate all her help through the next cycle of angst and growing pains. Thank you!!
Yay thanks for the tag. Annnnd speaking of this scene…..when he kisses her the second time, note how she slightly leans on the piano again and then pulls back towards Joon Young 🤭 oh gosh i need to stop
Love the observation @yongsital 😆and you will never hear me telling you to stop gushing!!
I just love the crunchy dissonant chord from the first kiss which perfect captures the “afhkkdjfls” state of the viewers’ minds.
Also, notice Joon-young was not even at all concerned about Song-ah sitting on the piano. His eyes and mind were completely focused on her. Now you tell me to stop!! 🤣🤣🤣
The piano was fangirling too ahaha
Right? Because obviously she hit the keys again the second time but that time neither of them took notice. I hope we get the awkward cuteness right after the kiss!
PS. let’s just let loose on the gushing lol
Additional note (because I evidently I cannot shut up about it): I love how SA immediately became weak at her knees after the first kiss. I mean who can blame her? Sigh….
LOL. At that back up into the piano scene I am sure I was the only one who thought, “Song-ah, easy on the piano!”.
Then again when there are those moments of silence between the two
and I am thinking “one of you please say something” I have been breaking the ice by adding this bit of dialogue:
Joon-young: “Song-ah shi let’s get an ice cream”. ( I have said that to myself a number times already.)
Me too! I swear the ONLY thing that I kept thinking about during that scene was the piano. I was horrified on behalf of the piano. That beautiful instrument!
@kimbapnoona crap, u just gave me a dirty thought … has show explained why JY dislikes JK’s piano yet (besides the fact that it was signed by dead mother?). ๐
OMO SQUEEEE this is almost the greatest fan wall post i’ve ever seen on dramabeans 🤣🤣🤣. but as a “male feminist” and a general of the #PEBARMY, can we amend your memo to request JY’s ass be used instead? haha i kid, i kid (but the parallel would be cheeky!)
I’m little surprised that people haven’t noticed until now. He caught my attention in The Best Hit and I’ve been waiting for him to get lead roles since then.
I think it depends a lot on the role too. JY is very charming and while I know that KMJ is a good actor, none of his roles charmed me and something felt lacking.
🤣🤣🤣 OMG!! Oh that was such fun times! Human Resource Director @letseatcookies! I totally deserve some serious kimchi slap for my evil scheme of ship spying and now glad to be swooning with you again firmly on the same ship!
It’s ok. I’m sure our team also had spies…as noted, it was one of the nicest shipping wars to date. Pretty sure we fought with fluffy pillows. But yes, glad we are on the same boat and I get to enjoy your comments without a sinking ship.
Also, in my mind I am rewriting the story that he is being kidnapped in an art studio and the only pain he is suffering is the mental discomfort serving as an inexperienced model.
LOL and sorry I am late to this @kimbapnoona. Lee Joon-hyuk (1984) is one of my favorites. That is as naked as what I call (not really) NAKED FIREMAN got.
It’s weird, everything about it on paper is too – excellent cinematography, good acting, good styling/make up, intriguing plot line, fast-paced storytelling. But somehow I’m okay with dropping it and not knowing how it ends?
@mayhemf!!!! It definitely has been a while and oh how much I miss squeeing together with you!!
I am doing well….as much as one can be living in this dark times. I have been thinking about you recently since that very unfortunate NYC birder incident happened with the dog woman. Hope all is well with you too and stay safe!
Dear @lugirl131415 maknae!!!! Hope you are well too!!
I heard from Outie that you watched Enlighten Me and so happy to hear that we are all on Team Nuan Nuan!! She might be one of the most awesome Dramaland heroines ever, and Enlighten Me might be one of the best workplace Cdramas (mostly because they are generally so terrible. 😅.) In the end I was even rooting for the romance just because it would make NN happy!! I am now watching Fake Princess for Eleanor Lee lol.
Ahhh! I loved Nuan Nuan and Eleanor portrayed her so well. I originally was planning to drop the drama as I was not liking Han Che and the romance (he was a jerk and too hot and cold) but @lugirl131415 convinced me to keep going and I’m glad I did as it ended up being such a lovely drama. I loved her story and strength. Her working her way from the lowest of the low to finding and following her new dreams. It was lovely.
And I plan to start Fake Princess this weekend! Been holding off since the subs are soooo slow for us non-Chinese speaking peasants 😭
My lovely Noona!!! I am well and am very glad to hear from you~
Yes! #TeamNuanNuan all day, everyday!
She is truly one of the most realistic and inspiring heroines I’ve watched! Her journey was amazing and you just can’t help but root for her all the way. Major props to Eleanor the crying, hardworking, cute, and funny scenes so you could just feel for her.
And I agree with the romance. Han Che annoyed me quite a bit but the last couple episodes won me over (it was just OTP cuteness overload 🥰.) I think it helped that the romance arc didn’t seem to play out as the main plot. It felt like Han Che was just part of her journey to maturing and finding her own happiness.
Also, so true about workplace Cdramas! Not many can balance it out as well as Enlighten did and make it as interesting as it was. I ended up being quite intrigued by the fashion industry so that is a great plus.
How’s Fake Princess, by the way. I wanted to start it and I think @trinpie (she’s also on Team Nuan Nuan! I mean, who isn’t if they’ve watch the show) will be starting it later this weekend. Tell me if it’s any good! I do miss Eleanor on my screen.
You know one of my favorite moments in Enlighten Me? When NN thought HC kissed Lin Jia JI on the rooftop during that photoshoot, she didn’t sulk. But what did our awesome heroine do? She took charge!! The first moment they had alone in the car NN kissed him hard to “sanitize” his lips!! 🤣🤣🤣 Oh I love her.
I am currently on episode 17 of Fake Princess. I think it will be fore me one of those dramas I will forget about as soon as I finish watching. Eleanor is still awesome here and the show is a fluffy and fun. My main complain for the first 12 episodes is actually that it is “too fluffy”…..like there is not much that is happening and then bam!!! Angst hits super hard….like really really hard for both the OTP and the secondary couple. 😭
But no worries, the angst is quite short lived but now my complain becomes…..after all they have been through the OTP knows that both of them are willing to sacrifice everything for each other so the new conflicts seem so trivial? As you see, I am impossible to be satisfied. 😅
I do hope the subs will pick it its pace! I do think that among so many new Cdramas this past couple months this might be one of the better ones out there!
In order to live up to the name \”Kinkbap\” @mayhemf bestowed on me of course it means I have to check of the dorama You Are the Biggest Mistake in My Life with the premise of the ML asking the FML to take him as her slave.
After 2 episodes I don\’t know what to think about the drama except that the ML is a seriously creepy boss who the show is trying to portray as funny acting very inappropriately toward his employee
And that it has one of the most amazing bowing sequence I have ever seen
I watched this at 3:00 am this morning, and was not quite sure what to make of it. Is it trying to turn the normally subservient Japanese female lead trope on its head? Because it’s not working. Being coerced into being a dom in the way that is being shown here is just as problematic as any other controlling relationship with a power imbalance.
Exactly my feeling @egads! I cannot decide if the show is or will be clever enough to offer cultural insight or even critique of the systematic gender imbalance. Just judging from the first couple episodes, I don’t have great hopes and I am not sure if I care enough to stick around to find out.
Few things which do not give me confidence in the show:
1) She was drugged by her date and the bartender, fought for herself which was great, but then she still had to be taken care of by the ML
2) Her interest seemed to be piqued by him even though he had shown nothing but creepiness IMO
3) Despite wanting to be her slave, he still kissed her without her permission
4) If this is a story of her embracing her dom side, I can totally get behind that. But so far her dom outbursts just seemed to be as surprising to herself as anyone and mainly served as random acts to turn him on….GROSS!
I realize now that this post is no public service announcement, @13infamyss. But this work has to be done by someone, and that someone might as well be me.
Someday or One Day is a fantasy romance but poignancy comes through so realistically and touchingly because it deals with a subject that is not easy….it is about how to face the sudden loss of a loved one….how can one deal with such longing for somenoe who had been such a significant part of your life and how must a person move on to survive through guilt even when no one is at fault.
The intimacy of the wonderful writing with apt direction really makes me feel like I am part of these characters\’lives. The lead actors are fantastic portraying these characters at varying places and different times.
Greg Hsu\’s character at the discovery of his budding feelings
Greg Hsu\’s softly gazing at his love after many happy years during one of the most touching conversations I have seen recently in Dramaland
Each episode I see the affirmation of their love and through their eyes I feel how they are loved by one another.
Perfectly worded Kimbap 😭 tearing up just thinking about this scene again. Tonight will be a rewatch of Episode 4!
The two gifs and descriptions youโve provided of Greg are very fitting!
I loved their talk about time travelling. Huang Yu Xianโs resonated with me the most. Giving an assurance to that person she loves that there is future for him…. and it will be a future with her.💘
@mayhemf, the time traveling bits of the show really reminds me some of the best in the genre like the suspenseful Nine with the sweet romance in Queen Inhyun’s Man!!
At the end of episode 2 of Someday or One Day, the twist reveals itself when the Chinese title surfaces in her text to him:
โThis yearโs birthday, my 3rd wish, is a wish to you. That wish, is, wanting to see you.
The lyrics of the theme song start to gain significance…
🎵 You can softly, tenderly, follow my footsteps. Let the beautiful memories slowly repeat 🎵
Despite so many beautifully heart wrenching scenes, the show doesn\’t forget to cheer us on! The sign on the wall states โTrust, Persistence, Courage. With these there is nothing you canโt do in the world.โ
I trust you, Show. Please be merciful to my soul.
The ending song hits the core – hopefully viki provided the most accurate translation but a line from the ending song was – โwould there be another dimension, another body, that could give us an alternate ending?โ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
Could you please tell me what the title of the ending song? I thought it was Miss You 3000 but apparently itโs the singerโs album title!
2nd gif was sooooo painful to watch 😭😭 she said she wasnโt gonna try on the virtual reality device. She didnโt shed a tear at his funeral (I did.. those Happy pictures of Him on the projector auuuugh!), but once sheโs all alone, she went and used that virtual reality device just to see him one more time! Sheโs in so much agony, ottoke! 😭
And when sheโs trying so hard to find faults in him…. so that she can have โreasonโ to let go.
Hunting down evidence of his “infidelity” with Vicky…..trying to search for traces of his less than pure intention for being with her….all so she can see the imperfect him, all so she can start love him a little less and maybe resent him a little more 😭😭😭
When she finally couldn’t help herself and went back to the office to try the device and then wrapping her arms around empty space……
I do love all the songs so far in the show @13infamyss! The ending song is ๆณ่ฆไฝ ๆณ่ฆไฝ ๆณ่ฆไฝ , English title Miss You 3000 (or the title of the show repeated 3 times “Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You”) by the singer named 831.
Do you mean the elevator scene where with the opening of each floor she sees how they celebrate that particular birthday? So beautifully and poetically done…..
Oh please, let it be a happy ending for all….even if they are all just different versions of oneself!
1998 part is very high on nostalgia for me, their school reminds me of mine, even the walls had the same colour! And kids rode bikes around and had to secretly park them.
The show sure brings back memories of my youth growing up in Taiwan! My school had the same navy blue pleated skirt and crisp white collar shirt for uniform….and boys just as cute at least filtered through my rose-colored memories!! 😆
Oh … In my school we all had uniform but not with numbers, yes my school also had its fair share of cutie boys and very beautiful girls, and its fair shair share of criminals and more than its fair share of deaths.
We had a student number that was used on a fairly regular basis in exam papers & school documents etc, but we didn’t wear it separately like a badge on us…. I think our school ID had it, & it was compulsory to wear it around our necks
My high school had those kind of good looking boys, but as soon as they opened their mouths cuss words (disparaging against women in general type) would flow out of them so that killed off any attraction 😆
😆 I think that’s basically how Yu Xuan feels @maybemaknae once she gets over the fact that Zi Wei looks exactly like Quan Sheng….Zi Wei speaks like an immature high school student who likes to get a good view of the field on the rooftop!
Taiwanese school is interesting. @outofthisworld mentioned how they had their school numbers on their uniform. Make the numbers a little bigger and the student would look like inmates 😅
I Find it interesting that the school here looked very dated, not properly painted/maintained… perhaps a representation of the kind of schools in the countryside.
I didn’t have numbers on my uniform for my schools but had to sew these plastic little tags onto the shirt identifying which year and which class I was!
I do think the production team does try to have the schools look more like less well funded rural schools in Taiwan with a tinge of 90’s nostalgia of the faded painted desks and chairs.
Now you mention it, yeah @lindag, I can see the resemblance!
To me Greg Hsu has this really unique boyish charm and playfulness that works so well for his character in the show. His eyes sparkle and his smiles inviting….he portrays both Li Zi Wei and Wang Quan Sheng so seamlessly. Are you watching the show as well?
Despite growing up in Taiwan, I have watched the least numbers of Tw-dramas than Korea, Japanese, and Chinese productions. For me they do sometimes have a pretty distinct feel or tone to them, and I might argue probably the most open about subjects regarding intimacy.
I hope you consider giving this drama a try! This is fast becoming my favorite TW drama @lindag!
*crosses fingers for a satisfying ending
I have watched a few of Taiwanese drama (actually the first i watched had Alice ke, the main actress, it was called office girls)
But this is by far my total favourite!
Thank you @meltingfrost! I cannot believe with just couple episodes this show has completely captured my heart. I hope you do decide to watch it soon and squee (or cry 😆) with me!!
So I bit the bullet 🤣
I went to check the first episode out of curiosity….and I honestly didnโt realize where the time went and reached the 5th LOL. I havenโt binged like that in so long! The most curious thing is that it doesnโt have a suspenseful, cliffhanger pull. Itโs a very quiet, understated addicting draw, where youโre actually living the characterโs lives. Iโm pleasantly surprised! It has some t-drama tropes (mainly those quirky characters that they ALWAYS have) but it honestly wasnโt enough to take away from the rest of the beautiful story (yet). The OST! So beautiful. And Iโm so impressed that the same actors can create chemistry with each other in one dimension and not much in the other but that you see something growing there.
I equal parts resent you and appreciate you for introducing this lollllll hereโs to another time investment! 😭😆❤️
OMG @meltingfrost that is AWESOME!! And it is totally within your right to resent me for the dark circles you may have under your eyes today. 😂😂😂
I am already listening to the OST on loop on my commute to work today and I have a feeling I will keep listening for a long time!
I agree that it is not necessary the suspense, but the characters’ longing for one another and the fight to remain emotionally intact despite grief and guilt…all so wistfully handled by the direction and the writing. I am glad Greg Hsu is able to inject so much warmth to the role to make it bearable through it all.
I agree Iโve rarely seen it done well anyway. But as youโll see above I gave it a chance already 😆 and itโs this slow, nostalgic beauty so far! The scifi aspect realistically obviously makes no sense, but I was so drawn in to the characters I didnโt notice it, and was as invested in the sci-fi aspect with them as they were.
Haham @maybemaknae I am sure once I have caught up with the show, I will need to spazz with all of you!! Do you talk about the drama mostly on the C-drama Discord?
We have different channels there, but yes we talk about cdramas a lot! __Spontaneous chat happens there, what with reactions & gifs & spoiler function, it’s easy to chat without spoiling the suspense for other watchers.
Come try it once, you’ll like it. It’s like rabbit but better in the chat aspect.
This might be the sweetest traffic violation! Since the subtitle only translated partially, I thought Someday or One Day Beanies might take pleasure to know:
-The ticket is issued form โTao Yuan County (where the main airport is) Police Precinct Bureau for Reporting Love Violationโ
-The instigator is โLoveโ
-The stamp says โYu Xuan please marry Zi Wei. Immediately pick a date to get marriedโ
-It is issued to โLoveโ
-The driverโs license number is โ520โ (which sounds similar to โI love youโ in Mandarin)
-For some reason the cop writes โchu miโ (sound of 🐥🐱) after โYu Xuan ~~~~marry himโ
-The ticket is for 9999 TWD (approximately $330) 😱 Thatโs one steep โlove violationโ
And it just occurred to me that the ticket is for 9999 TWD is because the number nine is a homonym of “long” meaning they will be together for a long long long long time! Awwwww ❤️
At first I was not sure about the concept of employing a marriage proposal agency but now this makes much more sense! It sure worked hard for its fee and paid lots of attention to details! 😂
Also I personally thought Vicky should be fired for planning a public proposal like this and on the day sheโs rushing to leave to the airport! 🙈 Iโm not a public kind of person so anything of this kind of display in public embarrasses me. And I just thought what if it went to different directorion and Yu Xuan did not say yes to him! Oh the horror!
Thanks kink! Lmao todayโs not the day! Weโve all had that kind of day. Anyways the names might be confusing to you for now because youโre early in the drama.
But to clarify – Li Zi Wei and Chen Yun Ru are the doppelgรคngers from 1998!
Huang Yu Xuan and Wang Quan Sheng are in 2019! 😉😉😉
I have waited to watch Someday or One Day just because I knew that with one episode a week the suspense would become the death of me! I finally started today and 20 minutes in I am already in love with the showโs wistful toneโฆ..it is gonna tear my heart out, isnโt it? 😭😭😭
Even though the drama is fantasy, one thing strikes so real to meโฆthat the OTP would meet up at a drink shop in Taiwan.
If you do make such plans with friends in the city, make sure you specify which one! This pic is taken next to the metro station exit near my parentsโ place in Taipei where there are FOUR drink shops next to each other with more scattered around the block!! 😆
Youโve finally started!!! The first two episodes are very sad and heartbreaking, youโll be with her in her journey of getting over (or lack thereof) throughout. 😑
And thanks for that cafe suggestion! I would love to visit Taiwan someday – all those beautiful temples I see on my friendsโ fb pages.
I wondered if the Wu Baiโs Last Dance is a childhood song for you, Kimbap! Itโs such a good song.
Ooh @13infamyss the first episode is such an emotional roller coaster…..the memories….the cakes….Vicky…the ring….and I understand perfectly how his parents are ready to move on. I don’t remember the last time an episode made me tear up so many times but I have never been able to deal with death well in a story.
The music is already so lovely throughout the first episode. Wu Bai is definitely a musician from my childhood, but the song Last Dance was released in 2012….and I was definitely a very grown adult by then! 😂
Hehe how could I not change my name with such a fitting suggestion from @mayhemf!!
I Baidued the song like how Gu Wei Yi would, and it shows that it was from 1996! Perhaps the initial search showing 2012 is a re-release? Sorry for the confusion @13infamyss!!
Have you caught up to the latest episode yet @oppafangirl? Just judging by the emotional pull of the first episode I can see myself binge my way through episode 10 in a couple days. 😅
I am watching 2-3 episodes a day, i am episode 5 now and i think i will watch ep6 as well. I will watch till ep11 by Sunday and then wait for two weeks to end… I hope i will be able to do it by raving a lot about the show on fanwall.
Thank you @kethysk! I sure hope that the drama would be able to sort out all these complications in a sensical way toward the end….but maybe by then it wouldn’t matter…I would take a happy ending even induced by headscratching metaphysical force that reunites the OTP like Queen Inhyun’s Man!
I love this tweet by the senior writer for Rolling Stone IndiaRiddhi Chakraborty in which she speaks of why she loves The Untamed, as well as how she sees the Chiense censorship:
“Itโs important for our community to have stories like thisโa pure love story that doesnโt become a tragedy because the main couple are two men. They are happy and #theyhaveason! Of course I wish the censorship didnโt exist and that they could show them getting married and being intimate (like they do in the original novel) because thatโs all very much part of our lives as human beings, BUT… this is a step in the right direction.”
For those Beanies who might not be interested in the Boys Love genre, I would urge you to give this drama a try.
Here is Ms. Chakraborty’s moving and beautifully written tweet
I will forever appreciate the writers and directors for putting in the work to get past the censorship. Honestly, they could have gone the lazy route and it would have taken away from what made the book/magna so damn special.
So many things could have gone so wrong, but instead we got a drama that is so enriching and satisfying in so many ways. After what happened to The Addicted and how much of the story was altered for Guardian, it is an incredible feat for The Untamed to stay so true to MXTX’s MDZS.
😆😆😆 I think most viewers finished the drama because they love the novel and Bai Yu/Zhu Yilong euphoric chemistry! Considering the production woes and the uncertainty dealing with censorship, fans definitely gave the drama lots of slack imo.
I really wanted to like it but after 3 separate attempts I only lasted as long as episode 20 and got my fill from fan edit YT vids.
I only made it 20 episodes in and just couldn’t keep going. The only good thing was the main characters and actors. Everything else about this drama was so so bad.
it was quite a feat for the production team for the hard work that they have done and of course, let’s not forget our Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo for their amazing performance as WWX and LWJ.
This was my first BL drama. I donโt know why I havenโt seen one before. It just happened to be. Am so happy this was the first and that this show was so poignant that it beats all love stories. The show made me fall in love with their love and itโs going to be so hard moving away from this. Everything just pales in comparison.
There is a pretty small number of BL dramas available and even a smaller number of BL dramas which are good. Most are low budget productions made for a core audience, but good ones have a lot of heart. But the incredible success of dramas like Guardian and now The Untamed certainly made the industry take notice and now there are dozens of BL dramas in various stages of production in China.
I hear ya @mayhemf about how now everything else just pales in comparison. Their love is grand but also subtle at the same time. It is just so epic in every way.
Here is hoping, but like all once in a lifetime dramas, people are gonna want this to be the norm and not the exception. When will these studios/production companies get that. The tide is changing and people are growing. Get it together.
I’m just worried because with how China is they might actually start getting more stringent in their censorship because of how popular The Untamed (and Guardian) were. There have been many ridiculous censorship laws that have come about because of certain dramas being popular.
So I am worried for these future BL productions and that they may be even more gutted then what Guardian was. I hope I’m wrong.
I never really perceived Untamed as a BL. Just a profound love story. Never thought the drama really needed intimacy of what we think of as “BL”. It was just perfect as it was.
But in the novel the BL intimacy worked really fine.
I think I understand your pointย @linda-palapalaย andย @larelle79, which might be that love is love regardless gender, which I wholeheartedly agree. But since depiction of homosexual love is so rare in dramas that we should not lessen the significance of the success of theย The Untamedย here!
Even though I am no expert of the BL genre and its historical evolution, the works in the genre does not always include explicit portrayals of sexual intimacy (if thatโs indeed what you are referring to, which I could totally misunderstood.) I now have read quite a few BL novels which do not include any sex scenes. Also, the fact that MXTX is considered a BL genre writer and TU is an adaptation of her work, I would consider TU a BL drama despite some changes made due to censorship and/or artistic choice by the scriptwriters.
But perhaps this is all beside the point!! I am just so happy to hear from a significant member of the Asian LGBTQ community like Riddhi Chakraborty who loves and appreciates the work and finds consolation in the dramaโs success. That is meaningful for me as a firm supporter of gay rights.
I’m also a supporter, and TU is a great intro to BL stories, showing those who’ve never tried BL (due to prejudice) that it’s okay and maybe not quite what they imagine . And I’m certainly not trying to lessen the significance of Untamed success – it was beyond successful and even more significant to the success and advancement of BL stories because it was such a beautiful love story, even without showing the intimacy of the novel. Especially for those who never tried anything BL and think they wouldn’t be interested, just because it’s labeled “BL”. (I’m speaking of a dear friend, who I’ve never convinced to watch BL yet). TU is such a great introduction to anything BL.
I just thought the drama was intimate enough without needing to see anything more explicit – in this particular case and drama, not as a general rule and not discounting other BL novels and dramas.
One of my favorite dramas is Addicted, and even though it was censored and then cancelled I was so curious about what the 2nd season would have been like, so much so that I read the novel. Well, at least most of it – I was a bit disappointed in the 2nd half of the novel but for other reasons.
I watch all of the Taiwanese HIStory and applaud their success. Even though the production quality is small (since they have a lot less money than mainland China) I’d support their artistic works anyway.
But, all in all and tbh, I like BL dramas in general because they seem to be able to act more naturally with each other and not forced romance/forced chemisty like so many “normal” (I don’t know what other word to use for male/female!) dramas. I like the way the male characters are written usually more than the way the female characters are written.
I really want to watch S.C.I. that was out in 2018, but can’t find it anywhere – anyone ever hear of this c-drama?
These thoughts are kind of random and all over the place, but right now that’s how my brain is processing! I understand your point and agree with it, but then my thinking went beyond…
One more last thought that came to me as I was cleaning my teapot: what started me thinking was when I was trying to figure out what words and explanations to use to get a friend to watch the TU. If I’d tell her it was BL she would never even try it, not in the least interested. But using the words “soulmates” or “cultivation partners who solve mysteries together” and “it has a happy ending”, it’s fantasy, etc., then she might try it and like it.
Oh no! I hope that wasn’t your favorite teapot, @linda-palapala!
S.C.I is available on your usual suspect websites, but unfortunately I see now all episodes are subbed. But since it is a procedural with 5 episodes per case, perhaps it is possible to watch selectively?
I have heard good things about the show, and that the drama did its best to stay true to the OTP as portrayed by the novel although there are some changes with the side characters. It even has a lesbian couple in the show. Imagine that!! I believe that the show had achieved some well deserved success that there is talk of a second season.
I have a like dislike relationship with Riddhi…. I dislike half her articles because they read more like a personal diary than an interview, but I kinda love her social media posts.
Very well said. As I’m sure everyone knows, I love this drama. But one thing that made me especially love this drama is the impact it had on my mom.
My mom is very mormon which I’m sure lots of people know are against anything LGBTQ+. I’ve had many discussions about this with her as I am a very strong supporter of gay rights, but she always held to the belief of ‘love the people but not the sin’ (because being born a certain way I suppose makes you a sinner). However, she has specifically told me that she has started to see the LGBTQ+ community in a different light. She is more obsessed with The Untamed then me as she has seen it atleast 5+ times, read the book and also read Heaven’s Official Blessing, watched the BTS, and watched all the fan meets. She loves the relationship in the drama and finds it beautiful. She has even lamented that she wished they kissed. And now in other dramas (like My Country) she will even be like ‘they should be a couple’ to 2 male characters. And the other day she sent me the below image:
I told her it looks like my favorite scene from the book (where he is blindfolded and Lan Zhan takes total advantage of him 😏) and her response was ‘It’s my favorite scene also’.
So even if I didn’t love the drama already, the impact it had on my mom alone, and the fact it changed some of her thoughts on gay relationships and the LGBTQ+ community makes this drama one of the most important, impactful and beloved drama I’ve ever encountered.
Thank you so much for sharing this, @trinpie. I am deeply moved hearing how this drama has such an impact on you in such a personal way. Cheers to this great drama for its ability to make such change one person at a time!! I am hopeful for the future.
Wow, thanks for sharing – it means a lot, especially knowing some people really can open their hearts and a drama like Untamed can have a positive effect because of its message of love.
Lord have mercy. 😭😭😭 Let me perish right here, right now, Your Grace.
Just when I thought your best look is normcore of a comfy sweater or a nicely tailored suit, you decide to do this.
Rid of that offensive fan away!! Why does it frame your face even better than WWX\’s Dizi?
Yes, you are just gonna break our heart and be a villain in the next project, aren\’t you?
Please do, because you can do anything, and do it well.
You make it too easy to be a fan. Just please give me one reason to love you less for self preservation.
The 30,000 copies of this limited edition of Harper Bazaar was sold out in 18 seconds!! I bet the magazine is regretting not printing 100,000 copies instead 😅(I mean, 100,000 is still very limited considering the size of his international fan base right?)
Hahaha @illthinkofoney, I noticed that I didn’t even mention his name….must be too carried away by all the emotions 😆 The object of my affection is the Chinese actor/singer Xiao Zhan who recently starred in the drama The Untamed which you might have seen “a few” fan wall posts made by fans like me.
As fascinated as I am by the pouty boys I do not think this is a good idea. I mean just as a reminder, I this very day watched 3 eps of Pretty Noona. I am prone to addiction and obsession. Can you imagine me under the influence of these pouty pretty people? It wouldn’t be good. Or healthy. Possibly terrifying.
@isthatacorner, I don’t blame you feeling this way since I am the prime example of the cautionary tale, but the journey down the rabbit hole is sooooooooo ecstatically beautiful……the pout is only a glimpse of the sublimity of The Untamed…..
*twitches in that proverbial corner
@stpauligurl, how could I forget the music and also the fan fic (thanks for mentioning that @persianrose) as two other dimensions of the Demonic Cultivation!! 😂
I have been listening to TU ost daily for the last 6 months. It is undoubtedly the ost of my life for 2019!!
This post covers most, if not, everything I poured over and felt in the last six months and counting! Thank you, Kimbap! ❤ As you’ve said before, The Untamed has been one nutritious bean that’s kept us nourished for a while now. Looking forward to where it takes us! 😁
One of the best TU/MDZS posts! 👏👏👏 Can’t believe The Untamed gave us so much joy and a big drama slump to BL novels and me watching Our Song raw for XZ. Thanks for being a part of this fangirling journey with me.
@jenmole, I don’t quite know where we are going in this journey but I sure am glad that I have you along the way! 😂
Remember in the beginning we were trying to ween off the obsession and it took less than a week to realize that it was not possible….and the rest is TU fangirl history 😅
🤣🤣🤣 Since I have been shamelessly and devotedly posting TU content on the FW (in addition to running an imaginary presidential campaign for WWX) for the last 6 months, I guess it is not surprising that veteran Beanies like you @ally-le would expect that the symptom would exhibit itself once more when I start doing a decade review. 😅😅😅
As if I didn’t already spend a few hours today YouTub-ing XZ/WYB videos…
And – reading the novel, well, I get thru part of a chapter and think oh, yeah, I loved this part in the Untamed, then go watch that part.
Other BL novels. I tried Addicted but the story isn’t nearly as good as Mo Dao. Just discovered S.C.I. both the novel and the drama which aired last year and trying to find where to watch, where to read.
@linda-palapala, I love how you are reading the novel and the watching the drama congruently! 😆For me the novel does differ enough from the drama that it felt right to focus on the story as it is its own entity! The novel definitely makes me love WWX more, and feels LZ’s pining even more deeply.
it looks like you can find S.C.I the novel on novelupdates although it looks like so far only 28 out of 130 chapters have been translated so far.
Here is the link: https://www.novelupdates.com/series/s-c-i-mystery-series/
S.C.I the drama is definitely on my watchlist!
I was considering reading “Addicted” but the length scared me off a bit…..maybe a little later when I am ready to commit!
I’m still deep down the untamed rabbit hole… after watching the drama zillion times, reading the novel and rereading some chapters 100 times, watching every single BTS over and over, my new obsession is reading TU fan fics… I cannot believe myself but some of them are so damn good 😉😉😉
Oh I never knew fan fics were this fun until I read TU fan fics!
I rely on others to give recommendations, do you have any? We do talk about TU on c drama thread at Discord, join us if you want to talk about c dramas.
I never felt I need fan fics before watching TU… usually I feel satisfied after a drama finishes… this is the 1st time I feel thirsty for more (the more I see the more I want) 😉😉😉 my most favorite ones are the one that are Lan Zhan’s POV, or for modern one Yibo as an extremely cold boy aka ice prince Yibo 😅😅😅
What a great journey The Untamed has put us on. Any other novel recommendations? I just finished Heaven Official’s Blessing. *crosses fingers for an drama adaptation*
@stpauligurl the HOB link above only goes up to chapter 24. Another group took over and translated the rest. They used to have a Google Drive but they recently removed it and is now on their Discord.
They recently changed their setting to private coz of trolls but will open it back up later. The link above is a good start. I hope you’ll enjoy HOB as much as the rest of us did.
@stpauligurl, sorry I was so excited to share HOB, I forgot the Discord is for the MDZs audio drama, manhua and more. Just not HOB translated novel. The below tweet will bring you to the Google Drive that stores the novel. It’s a read only file. They’ve been burned too many times with people stealing and uploading their translatedbuts.
@infinitize, since I am a native Mandarin speaker, I have been lucky to freely explore all the BL literature available to me online so about the dozen novels I’ve read so far have not been translated (and all BL novels to my knowledge are published first online before reaching enough popularity put them into print!)
I would recommend Priest’s “Guardian” (the story is quite different from the drama version) and the translation is almost complete. If you like MXTX, you might also like the grand world building here. https://www.novelupdates.com/series/guardian/
(Priest, like MXTX, is a lauded BL genre writer.)
Thanks for the novel recommendations; can’t wait to read them! Geez, what a rabbit hole The Untamed really is. Ha! Wish I was able to read more of what’s available, but I’m super thankful to the fans who have worked to translate so many already!
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 9:29 AM
Thank you Writer Oh Ji-young-nim for showing us how to properly give your viewers a GIANT MIDDLE FINGER.
Please get off the DDSSLLS plane before episode 12 if you can, Beanies.
For myself? I would just sit here and let the drama plane blow up so my memories of E15 and 16 will go up in flames.
Eazal
November 26, 2020 at 9:39 AM
Well, seeing all the comments in the wall, I’m relieved I dropped in episode 6.
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 9:45 AM
The show did give us so many really touching and cute moments which I am thankful for, and I would still say that it is a wonderful watch until episode 12. I was willing to overlook a number of things but this ending made its transgression impossible to forgive. I will never watch a show by this writer ever again.
frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
November 26, 2020 at 10:47 AM
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one deeply upset from this. It’s actually not excusable.
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 10:59 AM
@frabbycrabsis, when I saw the preview at the end of episode 15 I was dreading that Jun would die, but that was the good ol’ days (i.e. yesterday).
I never would have thought that would have been a better ending.
mindy
November 26, 2020 at 11:06 AM
My. Thoughts. Exactly.
frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
November 26, 2020 at 11:26 AM
Right? RIGHT??
You know what, it’s so nice to see you Kimbap, but it would be so much nicer under different circumstances 😂
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM
@frabbycrabsis, that’s what people say to each other at funerals!! 🤣
At moments like this where collective rage is immeasurable, I certainly appreciate the mutual support from the awesome Beanie community. Let’s wish upon better and more twinkly stars that this type of psychological violence will never be bestowed upon us ever again.
Do-Do-Don’t Even Try!!!!!
frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
November 26, 2020 at 11:41 AM
@kimbapnoona, this IS a funeral! 😂
We’re mourning the death of a good show!
Nothingmuch
November 26, 2020 at 12:30 PM
Yep. I viscerally felt the writerโs contempt for the viewers the way that landed. Iโd put up with a whole lot of s#*% with the fake outs etc because Iโd trusted the storytelling only to feel like I had a giant pile dumped on me at the end. No good feelings at all.
Beverly
November 26, 2020 at 9:59 AM
I thought for a moment that was a clip from the show and was like….”Whoa, that did take a sharp turn.”
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 10:57 AM
😆😆😆 Honestly Rara deserves to have an opportunity to lash out like this!! I would prefer this ending much more.
Fly Colours
November 26, 2020 at 10:12 AM
So happy that I decided to wait out for Beanies’ feedback on the finale before I went back… Now I know I’m never going to go back to Dodo! (*laughs manically)
frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
November 26, 2020 at 10:43 AM
Oh good, we’ve saved one person at least! 😂
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 11:08 AM
🤣🤣🤣 That’s what Beaniehood is for!!
Eazal
November 26, 2020 at 11:16 AM
You’ve saved two! Count me on the “I’ve dropped because I can’t handle the age gap but I will wait and see if beanies convince be back”.
Guess Fly Colours and I did a wise move even if we didn’t know about it.
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 11:27 AM
@eazal, you and Fly are much wiser! 😆 I honestly didn’t mind the age gap back then because everything the 19 year-old Jun did felt mature. The Writer fooled us all good, didn’t she?
What did Lee Jae-wook ever did to deserve this? 😞
frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
November 26, 2020 at 11:31 AM
Ah yes, the days when Jun seemed mature. Little did we know he was actually a compulsive liar who definitely should not be in a relationship.
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM
Jun is a kid who grew up in a family in which the dad is emotionally abusive and the mom has temper regulation issues. I don’t blame him for running away, I don’t blame him for turning out to be the worst of the bunch. But he surely doesn’t deserve the friendships from everyone in Eunpo, and certainly not love from Ra-ra.
Jingbee
November 26, 2020 at 10:07 PM
Three now. Thank you beanies.
mindy
November 26, 2020 at 10:55 AM
Oh my god what’s that gif from
๐ kimbap noona
November 26, 2020 at 11:05 AM
It’s Go Ara in Black seeing the future of all of us suffering watching her drama in 2020.
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 10:44 AM
To: Mr. Park Joon-young
Re: Instrument Care
This is the dated approach to wipe the keyboard.
Recommendation for the new method (as shown below) to wipe the keyboard for the future.
Please let me know if the message is received via demonstrations (note: plural) in the next 8 episodes. Thank you in advance for your timely and detailed attention on this crucial matter that is important for the health of the DB community.
Nessa (Bebe) ๐น
September 25, 2020 at 10:46 AM
Rawr
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 10:56 AM
I am compiling a list of what I gather to be the most dedicated Brahmsie Beanies. Please let me know if you would like me to take you off the tag list!
@wishfultoki, @ally-le, @letseatcookies, @earthna, @stberry, @purplesheesh, @lindag, @skelly, @choijunu, @shichybot, @marcusnyc20, @yongsital, @hazelnuts, @pickleddragon, @callie, @csmith, @peachietime, @ayalynn123, @kafiyah-bello, @acacia, @fatcat007, @gem28, @kdramaboo, @jingbee,, @jaelegant, @javinne, @kurama, @carlybisek, @oldawyer
Kafiyah Bello
September 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM
HIIIIIII!!!!!!
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 11:19 AM
Annyeong @kafiyah-bello!
Kafiyah Bello
September 25, 2020 at 12:32 PM
Absolutely!!!!
latebloomer
September 25, 2020 at 3:24 PM
The correct answer is, “No, we must be friends, because I’m hugging you as a friend.” ; )
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 4:50 PM
Hehe @lindag, you mean “I’m hugging you as a friend, soon to be boyfriend, soon to be lover, soon to be husband.”
Kurama
September 25, 2020 at 11:24 AM
I’m flattered to be on the list ๐ Thank you !
CS
September 25, 2020 at 11:39 AM
Hooray! Thank you. I don’t want to miss any of the Brahms goodness!!
peachietime
September 25, 2020 at 11:42 AM
IN GENERAL JUST COME TO THIS ROOM MORE OFTEN. Good things happened here lol
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 11:57 AM
Yes absolutely @peachietime!! Joon-young says it best:
Ayalynn
September 25, 2020 at 12:11 PM
Yay I’m in!
Bangawoyo ๋ฐ๊ฐ์์
Thanks!
hazelnuts
September 25, 2020 at 3:44 PM
Yey, ever-present! 🎼💙
Hahaha! Hello brahms beanies! 🤗🤗
Jingbee
September 25, 2020 at 5:39 PM
Thank you for the tag!! Badly need a dose of this to bridge the wait between Mondays!
letseatcookies
September 25, 2020 at 7:26 PM
I recommend watching To Jenny that stars Kim Sung Cheol in it, if you haven’t already. Nice 2 episode drama.
Jingbee
September 26, 2020 at 2:14 AM
Will check it out.. thanks!
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:00 AM
It’s such a cute little mini drama that will give you ear worms (in a good way) for weeks or months to come. 😆 I still listen to the OST now and then!
letseatcookies
September 26, 2020 at 9:02 AM
By any chance @kimbapnoona could it be a certain “Tiramisu Cake~ Tiramisu Cake~”?
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:31 AM
I will never be able to eat tiramisu cake without that song in my head for the rest of my life! 🤣Really, forever as I live.
But the other songs are also so lovely!
Love the track he wrote and recorded in his room:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5uWDsnGIc
I also love their duet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5zav4C12t8
letseatcookies
September 26, 2020 at 6:43 PM
hahaha @kimbapnoona, the videos are unavailable in my region aka Korea aka the origin. BWAHAHA…but I know what songs you mean. It was nice that they covered songs of artists and supporting their work.
Blue (@mayhemf)
September 25, 2020 at 6:32 PM
This is blasphemous. Why am I not here????
I know. Stupid Viki takes forever to sub. And I canโt get to recaps on time. Story of my life 😭😭
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:04 AM
😱😱😱 What a bad chingu I am, not realizing that you are a Brahmsie @mayhemf!! That bad chingu part I realize is also stemming of my inability to join you guys on Discord much.😞
Now I know you and @13infamyss are watching, I feel a wonderful sense of reunification from our Gangnam days. 🎉🎉🎉
13infamyss
September 26, 2020 at 5:55 PM
Woooo Hoooo! \O/ good old Gangnam days 😭
letseatcookies
September 25, 2020 at 7:25 PM
WOOOP!! Time for boat parties!!!
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:05 AM
And we know that this party will for sure have beautiful music!! Double woop!
letseatcookies
September 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM
“Tiramisu Cake~ Tiramisu Cake~”
Oh wait…wrong soundtrack…
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:27 AM
🤣🤣🤣Will never say no to cake, especially tiramisu cake.
And tiramisu cake on a boat? Pfffff one will have to be a monster to refuse that.
letseatcookies
September 26, 2020 at 6:44 PM
I’ll set up the deck ready for the party then…
shichybot
September 25, 2020 at 8:08 PM
Thanks @kimbapnoona! We can all get a little bit crazy for our Dimple Couple here! 😆
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:13 AM
Yes, @shichybot!! These dimples are more like blackholes, wonderous addictive blackholes we can happily get lost in.
kdramaboo
September 25, 2020 at 8:53 PM
Thank you for the tag! This will definitely help ease the loooong wait till Monday~~
protect junwoo
September 25, 2020 at 10:46 PM
Thank you for the tag 😍😍😍 Currently compiling a Spotify playlist for all the classical pieces they’ve featured on the show!
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:15 AM
Awesome @choijunu!! What a wonderful way to express love for DYLB! I hope there will be a Brahms sonata for violin and piano on the list by the end of the show 😆
protect junwoo
September 26, 2020 at 9:46 AM
Here it is! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7HsPK8BtFMfoFf8N8DnP6s?si=7DyTHztfTpSTJxcjO39tQw
omg a Brahms sonata for violin and piano would be lovely… any predictions? Sonata for Piano and Violin in G Major, Op. 87 is a personal fave.
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 10:08 AM
Thank you @choijunu!! Now I want to print Bach’s BWV 208 out and play it on the piano (albeit very badly, but I feel like it will get me closer to nirvana after a difficult week.)
Haha I will be fine with any sonata as long as they will play it together as equal collaborative partners! But yes….op. 87 is absolutely sweet, passionate, intimate, warm, and heartfelt….OMG it makes me so happy to imagine that’s what their relationship will be like in the end. 💝
protect junwoo
September 26, 2020 at 10:28 AM
@kimbapnoona just a scene of them playing peacefully in some breezy garden without a care in the world, in love and content 😭
Ally
September 26, 2020 at 11:19 AM
Awesome! Did you also figure out what that violinist played with just the last 3 or so chords? The one that Song-ha gave her shoes.
earthna
September 25, 2020 at 11:28 PM
I’m honored!
Fatcat007 (Kitty ๐)
September 26, 2020 at 12:36 AM
More than happy to be in the list.😆 It’s good for my RESEARCH.
Looking forward to further instructions & discussions.
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:17 AM
If there are still spots open, please accept me into your lab as a dedicated research assistant Dr. @fatcat007.
BTW nice to connect here again! 😊
Fatcat007 (Kitty ๐)
September 26, 2020 at 10:20 AM
I think we’re fellow researchers here ๐
Also yeah, nice talking to you too after so many months ^^
purplesheesh
September 26, 2020 at 5:04 AM
Thrilled to be included in this list. Thank you @kimbapnoona. @13infamyss is also one of the most dedicated Brahmsie Beanie.
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:19 AM
@13infamyss is the best swoonmate there is in DBverse!! We for sure would appreciate all her help through the next cycle of angst and growing pains. Thank you!!
13infamyss
September 26, 2020 at 5:54 PM
😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿😿 Why are we talking about angsty stuff already Brahmsie bbs just got together 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
But def ready to serve fellow Brahmsies whatever is on the way. Hopefully swooooooooon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a***t
OLakes
September 26, 2020 at 5:34 AM
Hey gang! ๐ Stoked to be on the Brahms train with you all!
yongsital ๐ง โ๏ธ
September 25, 2020 at 11:36 AM
Yay thanks for the tag. Annnnd speaking of this scene…..when he kisses her the second time, note how she slightly leans on the piano again and then pulls back towards Joon Young 🤭 oh gosh i need to stop
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 11:47 AM
Love the observation @yongsital 😆and you will never hear me telling you to stop gushing!!
I just love the crunchy dissonant chord from the first kiss which perfect captures the “afhkkdjfls” state of the viewers’ minds.
Also, notice Joon-young was not even at all concerned about Song-ah sitting on the piano. His eyes and mind were completely focused on her. Now you tell me to stop!! 🤣🤣🤣
Ally
September 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM
Poor piano, but then I’m sure it would ship these two if it could!
WishfulToki
September 25, 2020 at 12:25 PM
Awesome Steinway PPL by the way. โPlay the piano and you will succeed in romanceโ. PG-13.
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 12:31 PM
Steinway: the tone is just as warm and rich when you play it with your posterior
Let’s not assume that it is just PG-13 yet @wishfultoki! We still yet to find out where the kiss leads to in next week’s episode (PLEASE PD-nim!)
ahjussi clown
October 1, 2020 at 1:30 PM
HAHAHAH I’M DEAD 🤣🤣🤣
“Steinway and Makes Some Cute Sons” git it git it? *crickets ….
I’m bad at jokes as SA is apparently bad at the violin. ๐
CS
September 25, 2020 at 1:31 PM
When Song-ah caresses the keys before JY gets there, I thought “Wow, that piano is sexy.” Seriously good PPL Steinway!
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:35 AM
I don’t remember if I ever could legit proclaim: “GIVE ME MORE PPL!!!!!”
Why does the piano have to be so sexy adjacent @csmith ? Sigh…..
CS
September 26, 2020 at 10:32 AM
@kimbapnoona “sexy adjacent” hahahaha! That’s perfect. This piano should get an award. Or a spin off. Steinway and the City?
yongsital ๐ง โ๏ธ
September 25, 2020 at 12:32 PM
The piano was fangirling too ahaha
Right? Because obviously she hit the keys again the second time but that time neither of them took notice. I hope we get the awkward cuteness right after the kiss!
PS. let’s just let loose on the gushing lol
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 12:40 PM
Additional note (because I evidently I cannot shut up about it): I love how SA immediately became weak at her knees after the first kiss. I mean who can blame her? Sigh….
yongsital ๐ง โ๏ธ
September 25, 2020 at 1:18 PM
Me neither 🙊 I blush for her so I can’t even imagine…apparently I just need a life tbh.
shichybot
September 25, 2020 at 8:07 PM
Hahaha! Yeah! I was actually thinking, how did the floor get so slippery? LOL
shichybot
September 25, 2020 at 8:12 PM
@yongsital, I think it was Joon Young pulling her towards him. That piano playing hand on her face is so sexy!
yongsital ๐ง โ๏ธ
September 26, 2020 at 4:53 AM
Let me go check….for research reasons ofc. 😏
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:20 AM
Need. To. Stop. Thinking. About. Those. Delicate. Agile. Fingers. (with veins)
yongsital ๐ง โ๏ธ
September 26, 2020 at 9:29 AM
Yass! I just want to tell you, you have me on the ground laughing at all your replies in this thread..I’m dyingggg
ahjussi clown
October 1, 2020 at 1:34 PM
amen @yongsital my stomach hurts from this thread. 🤣🤭😍@kimbapnoona literally ruined the 1st kiss, but oh the steinway jokes were oh so worth it.
hazelnuts
September 25, 2020 at 3:43 PM
Hahaha! THIS!!!!! 🤩🤩🤩
acacia
September 25, 2020 at 4:39 PM
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
bong-soo
September 25, 2020 at 4:44 PM
LOL. At that back up into the piano scene I am sure I was the only one who thought, “Song-ah, easy on the piano!”.
Then again when there are those moments of silence between the two
and I am thinking “one of you please say something” I have been breaking the ice by adding this bit of dialogue:
Joon-young: “Song-ah shi let’s get an ice cream”. ( I have said that to myself a number times already.)
pickleddragon
September 25, 2020 at 10:17 PM
Me too! I swear the ONLY thing that I kept thinking about during that scene was the piano. I was horrified on behalf of the piano. That beautiful instrument!
shichybot
September 25, 2020 at 8:04 PM
Yes continue to wipe the piano this way, Joon-young! Also the top of the piano please! LOL
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:21 AM
Plenty of room underneath as well, just sayin’ *coughs
ahjussi clown
October 1, 2020 at 1:38 PM
is it getting hot in hurr or is just me??? 🥵
@kimbapnoona crap, u just gave me a dirty thought … has show explained why JY dislikes JK’s piano yet (besides the fact that it was signed by dead mother?). ๐
OldLawyer
September 25, 2020 at 8:35 PM
Excellent instructions
๐ kimbap noona
September 26, 2020 at 9:22 AM
Musicians are good at following instructions generally. Hope Joon-young does.
ahjussi clown
October 1, 2020 at 1:24 PM
OMO SQUEEEE this is almost the greatest fan wall post i’ve ever seen on dramabeans 🤣🤣🤣. but as a “male feminist” and a general of the #PEBARMY, can we amend your memo to request JY’s ass be used instead? haha i kid, i kid (but the parallel would be cheeky!)
๐ kimbap noona
September 24, 2020 at 4:41 PM
Dear @earthna, thank you for your earlier FW gift for all the Brahms Beanies. And what could possibly be better than Kim Min-jae in black turtleneck?
Kim Min-jae out of one.
😱 AIN’T NO ONE’S KINDERSZENEN 😱
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 24, 2020 at 5:28 PM
I’m little surprised that people haven’t noticed until now. He caught my attention in The Best Hit and I’ve been waiting for him to get lead roles since then.
wapz
September 24, 2020 at 11:42 PM
I think it depends a lot on the role too. JY is very charming and while I know that KMJ is a good actor, none of his roles charmed me and something felt lacking.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
September 25, 2020 at 2:05 AM
I was totally charmed by him in The Best Hit but I understand what you mean.
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 6:05 AM
Joon-young’s character is written well but much to KMJ’s credit there is definitely something very special how he portrays our favorite pianist!
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
September 24, 2020 at 6:47 PM
So…uh…whats this fella doing?
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 6:00 AM
Standing, breathing, and looking fierce! 😆
earthna
September 24, 2020 at 8:05 PM
Hahahahhahah I’m confused. What’s going on 👀
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 6:01 AM
🤣 It’s episode 1 beginning fantasy sequence of The Best Hit. KMJ is getting ready to fight his father Yoon Shi-yoon Bruce Lee style in a few seconds!
earthna
September 25, 2020 at 6:05 AM
Omg that’s the one! My brain erased my memories of that show lol
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 8:08 AM
I dropped it midway because I was on the KMJ ship and the father/son love triangle just felt too weird! 😅
earthna
September 25, 2020 at 11:26 PM
Good job for dropping it midway. I finished it and was mad. I cant believe they really went that way. Ruined the whole show for me.
letseatcookies
September 24, 2020 at 11:01 PM
WAIT!! Who is this guy? DAMNNNNNNNN!!
And where was this from?
Who scratched our boy up?
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 6:03 AM
Who scratched Joon-young up? I guess we will find out how passionate the piano kiss got next week!! 🙊🙊🙊
letseatcookies
September 25, 2020 at 6:10 AM
OH MY GOSH!! I LOVE YOU AND EVERY COMMENT YOU MAKE I SWEAR!!
Brings me back to our APAD days on our civil but separate boat parties: https://www.dramabeans.com/members/letseatcookies/activity/444443/
๐ kimbap noona
September 25, 2020 at 6:32 AM
🤣🤣🤣 OMG!! Oh that was such fun times! Human Resource Director @letseatcookies! I totally deserve some serious kimchi slap for my evil scheme of ship spying and now glad to be swooning with you again firmly on the same ship!
letseatcookies
September 25, 2020 at 6:38 AM
It’s ok. I’m sure our team also had spies…as noted, it was one of the nicest shipping wars to date. Pretty sure we fought with fluffy pillows. But yes, glad we are on the same boat and I get to enjoy your comments without a sinking ship.
๐ kimbap noona
September 6, 2020 at 8:37 AM
Yes, he is. He truly is.
Also, in my mind I am rewriting the story that he is being kidnapped in an art studio and the only pain he is suffering is the mental discomfort serving as an inexperienced model.
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
September 6, 2020 at 8:38 AM
I should change whatever is in my mind noona because yours is definitely better!
๐ kimbap noona
September 6, 2020 at 9:10 AM
Join me! There is plenty of room here @neener!
*hides and stays put in my closet of wishful imagination
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
September 6, 2020 at 9:18 AM
*sees the word closet*
*remembering DJ’s last scene in the closet*
*scrolls back to see half nekkid DJ*
I shall join you!
๐ kimbap noona
September 6, 2020 at 9:56 AM
*blindfolds myself in a supportive and embracing way, not episode 7 adjskg%vthsr&f kind of way!!!
egads aka Dame Maggie
September 9, 2020 at 5:36 AM
Noona!!!!
I like your alternate universe, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention straps….
๐ kimbap noona
September 24, 2020 at 9:04 AM
That’s happens in the other room @egads 🙊🙊🙊
bong-soo
September 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM
LOL and sorry I am late to this @kimbapnoona. Lee Joon-hyuk (1984) is one of my favorites. That is as naked as what I call (not really) NAKED FIREMAN got.
๐ kimbap noona
September 6, 2020 at 8:14 AM
Do you like Brahms? You should!!
Have some Raisin Brahms to channel the power of the art 🎹💪🎶
bbstl ๐งน
September 6, 2020 at 10:40 AM
Wow 😮 that was terrible! LOLOL
๐ kimbap noona
September 6, 2020 at 12:36 PM
But is it so terrible that it is so good? 😉
At least I can attest music nerds like me want to make tshirts out of it hehe
Maq
September 29, 2020 at 8:51 AM
LMAO
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Public Service Announcement: Keep the invasive species of your garden under control this summer. Even Gun Shen can fall victim to its aggression.
Nessa (Bebe) ๐น
June 18, 2020 at 10:34 AM
LOL I was like, “What in the what is Li Xian doing???”
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 10:50 AM
He sure is a beautiful tribute to the Flower God, isn’t he @bebeswtz? 🌼🔪😆
Nessa (Bebe) ๐น
June 18, 2020 at 11:01 AM
ROFL
_my.river_
June 18, 2020 at 11:27 AM
I’m watching Tientsin Mystic now!
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 11:32 AM
Awesome! That has been on my to-watch-list forever!
Are you enjoying it, @myriver?
_my.river_
June 18, 2020 at 1:45 PM
It’s weird, everything about it on paper is too – excellent cinematography, good acting, good styling/make up, intriguing plot line, fast-paced storytelling. But somehow I’m okay with dropping it and not knowing how it ends?
_my.river_
June 18, 2020 at 1:45 PM
Everything on paper is **good
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 4:26 PM
I have experienced the same thing @myriver with a few dramas -everything about them screams quality but somehow emotionally don’t connect with me!
I definitely love LX’s badass braids with shaved sides….it speaks to me on an emotional level and resonates with me on a physical level.
Blue (@mayhemf)
June 18, 2020 at 2:28 PM
@kimbap, you are alive!!!!!!!
Hope things are fine with you.
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 4:29 PM
@mayhemf!!!! It definitely has been a while and oh how much I miss squeeing together with you!!
I am doing well….as much as one can be living in this dark times. I have been thinking about you recently since that very unfortunate NYC birder incident happened with the dog woman. Hope all is well with you too and stay safe!
bea
June 18, 2020 at 2:31 PM
Noona!! Hiiiiiiiii~~ Hope you’ve been well!
.
Omg, Li Xian……I have no words…..🌼🌸…..
๐ kimbap noona
June 18, 2020 at 4:34 PM
Dear @lugirl131415 maknae!!!! Hope you are well too!!
I heard from Outie that you watched Enlighten Me and so happy to hear that we are all on Team Nuan Nuan!! She might be one of the most awesome Dramaland heroines ever, and Enlighten Me might be one of the best workplace Cdramas (mostly because they are generally so terrible. 😅.) In the end I was even rooting for the romance just because it would make NN happy!! I am now watching Fake Princess for Eleanor Lee lol.
Trinity ๐
June 18, 2020 at 6:34 PM
Ahhh! I loved Nuan Nuan and Eleanor portrayed her so well. I originally was planning to drop the drama as I was not liking Han Che and the romance (he was a jerk and too hot and cold) but @lugirl131415 convinced me to keep going and I’m glad I did as it ended up being such a lovely drama. I loved her story and strength. Her working her way from the lowest of the low to finding and following her new dreams. It was lovely.
And I plan to start Fake Princess this weekend! Been holding off since the subs are soooo slow for us non-Chinese speaking peasants 😭
bea
June 18, 2020 at 6:56 PM
My lovely Noona!!! I am well and am very glad to hear from you~
Yes! #TeamNuanNuan all day, everyday!
She is truly one of the most realistic and inspiring heroines I’ve watched! Her journey was amazing and you just can’t help but root for her all the way. Major props to Eleanor the crying, hardworking, cute, and funny scenes so you could just feel for her.
And I agree with the romance. Han Che annoyed me quite a bit but the last couple episodes won me over (it was just OTP cuteness overload 🥰.) I think it helped that the romance arc didn’t seem to play out as the main plot. It felt like Han Che was just part of her journey to maturing and finding her own happiness.
Also, so true about workplace Cdramas! Not many can balance it out as well as Enlighten did and make it as interesting as it was. I ended up being quite intrigued by the fashion industry so that is a great plus.
How’s Fake Princess, by the way. I wanted to start it and I think @trinpie (she’s also on Team Nuan Nuan! I mean, who isn’t if they’ve watch the show) will be starting it later this weekend. Tell me if it’s any good! I do miss Eleanor on my screen.
๐ kimbap noona
June 19, 2020 at 5:34 PM
@trinpie and @lugirl131415,
You know one of my favorite moments in Enlighten Me? When NN thought HC kissed Lin Jia JI on the rooftop during that photoshoot, she didn’t sulk. But what did our awesome heroine do? She took charge!! The first moment they had alone in the car NN kissed him hard to “sanitize” his lips!! 🤣🤣🤣 Oh I love her.
I am currently on episode 17 of Fake Princess. I think it will be fore me one of those dramas I will forget about as soon as I finish watching. Eleanor is still awesome here and the show is a fluffy and fun. My main complain for the first 12 episodes is actually that it is “too fluffy”…..like there is not much that is happening and then bam!!! Angst hits super hard….like really really hard for both the OTP and the secondary couple. 😭
But no worries, the angst is quite short lived but now my complain becomes…..after all they have been through the OTP knows that both of them are willing to sacrifice everything for each other so the new conflicts seem so trivial? As you see, I am impossible to be satisfied. 😅
I do hope the subs will pick it its pace! I do think that among so many new Cdramas this past couple months this might be one of the better ones out there!
Trinity ๐
June 19, 2020 at 6:54 PM
I’m on ep 3! I’m really liking it and of course loving Eleanor’s character 😆
The other dramas I’m watching right now is Fox and Miss Rose and The Winner is Love which I’m quite liking both.
๐ kimbap noona
February 1, 2020 at 12:28 PM
In order to live up to the name \”Kinkbap\” @mayhemf bestowed on me of course it means I have to check of the dorama You Are the Biggest Mistake in My Life with the premise of the ML asking the FML to take him as her slave.
After 2 episodes I don\’t know what to think about the drama except that the ML is a seriously creepy boss who the show is trying to portray as funny acting very inappropriately toward his employee
And that it has one of the most amazing bowing sequence I have ever seen
#TheBiggestMistakeinMyDramaLife?
egads aka Dame Maggie
February 1, 2020 at 12:47 PM
I watched this at 3:00 am this morning, and was not quite sure what to make of it. Is it trying to turn the normally subservient Japanese female lead trope on its head? Because it’s not working. Being coerced into being a dom in the way that is being shown here is just as problematic as any other controlling relationship with a power imbalance.
๐ kimbap noona
February 1, 2020 at 1:04 PM
Exactly my feeling @egads! I cannot decide if the show is or will be clever enough to offer cultural insight or even critique of the systematic gender imbalance. Just judging from the first couple episodes, I don’t have great hopes and I am not sure if I care enough to stick around to find out.
Few things which do not give me confidence in the show:
1) She was drugged by her date and the bartender, fought for herself which was great, but then she still had to be taken care of by the ML
2) Her interest seemed to be piqued by him even though he had shown nothing but creepiness IMO
3) Despite wanting to be her slave, he still kissed her without her permission
4) If this is a story of her embracing her dom side, I can totally get behind that. But so far her dom outbursts just seemed to be as surprising to herself as anyone and mainly served as random acts to turn him on….GROSS!
Beverly
February 1, 2020 at 3:42 PM
For a second I thought this was going to be a Love, February post.
๐ kimbap noona
February 1, 2020 at 4:21 PM
😆 no love here, @bcampbell1662, it is closer to a Regret, February Post.
13infamyss
February 1, 2020 at 5:18 PM
Kink, what gifs are these youโre showing to us! 🙈🙈🙈🙈
It maybe your kink to slide down the handrail but please put a warning sign for the younginโs to not do this at home! 🙉🙉🙉
๐ kimbap noona
February 1, 2020 at 5:52 PM
I realize now that this post is no public service announcement, @13infamyss. But this work has to be done by someone, and that someone might as well be me.
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 1:02 PM
Someday or One Day is a fantasy romance but poignancy comes through so realistically and touchingly because it deals with a subject that is not easy….it is about how to face the sudden loss of a loved one….how can one deal with such longing for somenoe who had been such a significant part of your life and how must a person move on to survive through guilt even when no one is at fault.
The intimacy of the wonderful writing with apt direction really makes me feel like I am part of these characters\’lives. The lead actors are fantastic portraying these characters at varying places and different times.
Greg Hsu\’s character at the discovery of his budding feelings
Greg Hsu\’s softly gazing at his love after many happy years during one of the most touching conversations I have seen recently in Dramaland
Each episode I see the affirmation of their love and through their eyes I feel how they are loved by one another.
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 1:04 PM
@13infamyss, @mayhemf, @oppafangirl, @outofthisworld, @leetennant
@shindy, @willow, @lugirl131415, @neener, @maybemaknae, @pinklolipop, @meltingfrost, @shindy,
13infamyss
January 31, 2020 at 1:24 PM
Perfectly worded Kimbap 😭 tearing up just thinking about this scene again. Tonight will be a rewatch of Episode 4!
The two gifs and descriptions youโve provided of Greg are very fitting!
I loved their talk about time travelling. Huang Yu Xianโs resonated with me the most. Giving an assurance to that person she loves that there is future for him…. and it will be a future with her.💘
Rumi~
January 31, 2020 at 3:44 PM
Same. I’m going to rewatch ep 4 with fresh new eyes post reveal.
oppafangirl
January 31, 2020 at 2:50 PM
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Blue (@mayhemf)
January 31, 2020 at 9:43 PM
I love the juxtaposition of these two characters. Or rather these two timelines. The direction really works wonders to the story telling.
๐ kimbap noona
February 1, 2020 at 5:48 AM
@mayhemf, the time traveling bits of the show really reminds me some of the best in the genre like the suspenseful Nine with the sweet romance in Queen Inhyun’s Man!!
RevSparklyAndroid
February 1, 2020 at 12:03 AM
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๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 5:07 PM
At the end of episode 2 of Someday or One Day, the twist reveals itself when the Chinese title surfaces in her text to him:
โThis yearโs birthday, my 3rd wish, is a wish to you. That wish, is, wanting to see you.
The lyrics of the theme song start to gain significance…
🎵 You can softly, tenderly, follow my footsteps. Let the beautiful memories slowly repeat 🎵
Despite so many beautifully heart wrenching scenes, the show doesn\’t forget to cheer us on! The sign on the wall states โTrust, Persistence, Courage. With these there is nothing you canโt do in the world.โ
I trust you, Show. Please be merciful to my soul.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 5:08 PM
@13infamyss,ย @mayhemf,ย @oppafangirl,ย @outofthisworld,ย @leetennantย
@shindy, @willow, @lugirl131415, @neener,ย ย @maybemaknae, @pinklolipop
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 5:28 PM
I love all the OSTs in this drama Kimbap!
The ending song hits the core – hopefully viki provided the most accurate translation but a line from the ending song was – โwould there be another dimension, another body, that could give us an alternate ending?โ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
Could you please tell me what the title of the ending song? I thought it was Miss You 3000 but apparently itโs the singerโs album title!
2nd gif was sooooo painful to watch 😭😭 she said she wasnโt gonna try on the virtual reality device. She didnโt shed a tear at his funeral (I did.. those Happy pictures of Him on the projector auuuugh!), but once sheโs all alone, she went and used that virtual reality device just to see him one more time! Sheโs in so much agony, ottoke! 😭
And when sheโs trying so hard to find faults in him…. so that she can have โreasonโ to let go.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 6:06 PM
Hunting down evidence of his “infidelity” with Vicky…..trying to search for traces of his less than pure intention for being with her….all so she can see the imperfect him, all so she can start love him a little less and maybe resent him a little more 😭😭😭
When she finally couldn’t help herself and went back to the office to try the device and then wrapping her arms around empty space……
I do love all the songs so far in the show @13infamyss! The ending song is ๆณ่ฆไฝ ๆณ่ฆไฝ ๆณ่ฆไฝ , English title Miss You 3000 (or the title of the show repeated 3 times “Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You, Wanting to See You”) by the singer named 831.
Here is the link of the official MV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iRupuNet3Q
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM
She tried hard to love him less, but no, he was the perfect boyfriend 😭
Thanks Kimbap! So it is Miss You 3000! I thought that was the groupโs album title.
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 5:40 PM
I have a feeling that the show will have a happy ending for all its main characters!
Did you see the elevator scene? it’s my favorite.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 6:09 PM
Do you mean the elevator scene where with the opening of each floor she sees how they celebrate that particular birthday? So beautifully and poetically done…..
Oh please, let it be a happy ending for all….even if they are all just different versions of oneself!
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 5:43 PM
1998 part is very high on nostalgia for me, their school reminds me of mine, even the walls had the same colour! And kids rode bikes around and had to secretly park them.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 6:11 PM
The show sure brings back memories of my youth growing up in Taiwan! My school had the same navy blue pleated skirt and crisp white collar shirt for uniform….and boys just as cute at least filtered through my rose-colored memories!! 😆
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 6:27 PM
You had cutie pies like Li Zi Wei and Mo Jun Jie at your school??😆😆😆
Wearing Uniforms in where I am is only for the elite kids. So itโs the 1% of population – the private schools. I didnโt wear school uniform.
oppafangirl
January 31, 2020 at 12:25 AM
Oh … In my school we all had uniform but not with numbers, yes my school also had its fair share of cutie boys and very beautiful girls, and its fair shair share of criminals and more than its fair share of deaths.
Rumi~
January 31, 2020 at 2:59 AM
We had a student number that was used on a fairly regular basis in exam papers & school documents etc, but we didn’t wear it separately like a badge on us…. I think our school ID had it, & it was compulsory to wear it around our necks
Rumi~
January 31, 2020 at 2:56 AM
My high school had those kind of good looking boys, but as soon as they opened their mouths cuss words (disparaging against women in general type) would flow out of them so that killed off any attraction 😆
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 10:23 AM
😆 I think that’s basically how Yu Xuan feels @maybemaknae once she gets over the fact that Zi Wei looks exactly like Quan Sheng….Zi Wei speaks like an immature high school student who likes to get a good view of the field on the rooftop!
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 6:20 PM
Taiwanese school is interesting. @outofthisworld mentioned how they had their school numbers on their uniform. Make the numbers a little bigger and the student would look like inmates 😅
I Find it interesting that the school here looked very dated, not properly painted/maintained… perhaps a representation of the kind of schools in the countryside.
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 10:21 AM
I didn’t have numbers on my uniform for my schools but had to sew these plastic little tags onto the shirt identifying which year and which class I was!
I do think the production team does try to have the schools look more like less well funded rural schools in Taiwan with a tinge of 90’s nostalgia of the faded painted desks and chairs.
latebloomer
January 30, 2020 at 7:14 PM
Doesn’t he look like just like Yoon Hyun-min?
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 7:59 PM
Now you mention it, yeah @lindag, I can see the resemblance!
To me Greg Hsu has this really unique boyish charm and playfulness that works so well for his character in the show. His eyes sparkle and his smiles inviting….he portrays both Li Zi Wei and Wang Quan Sheng so seamlessly. Are you watching the show as well?
latebloomer
January 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM
I actually have never watched a Taiwanese drama.
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 10:27 AM
Despite growing up in Taiwan, I have watched the least numbers of Tw-dramas than Korea, Japanese, and Chinese productions. For me they do sometimes have a pretty distinct feel or tone to them, and I might argue probably the most open about subjects regarding intimacy.
I hope you consider giving this drama a try! This is fast becoming my favorite TW drama @lindag!
*crosses fingers for a satisfying ending
oppafangirl
January 31, 2020 at 11:39 AM
I have watched a few of Taiwanese drama (actually the first i watched had Alice ke, the main actress, it was called office girls)
But this is by far my total favourite!
meltingfrost
January 30, 2020 at 7:52 PM
ahhhh you describe it so beautifully, you’re really selling it to me! i’m this close to biting the bullet and starting haha.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 8:01 PM
Thank you @meltingfrost! I cannot believe with just couple episodes this show has completely captured my heart. I hope you do decide to watch it soon and squee (or cry 😆) with me!!
meltingfrost
January 31, 2020 at 6:40 AM
So I bit the bullet 🤣
I went to check the first episode out of curiosity….and I honestly didnโt realize where the time went and reached the 5th LOL. I havenโt binged like that in so long! The most curious thing is that it doesnโt have a suspenseful, cliffhanger pull. Itโs a very quiet, understated addicting draw, where youโre actually living the characterโs lives. Iโm pleasantly surprised! It has some t-drama tropes (mainly those quirky characters that they ALWAYS have) but it honestly wasnโt enough to take away from the rest of the beautiful story (yet). The OST! So beautiful. And Iโm so impressed that the same actors can create chemistry with each other in one dimension and not much in the other but that you see something growing there.
I equal parts resent you and appreciate you for introducing this lollllll hereโs to another time investment! 😭😆❤️
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 12:08 PM
OMG @meltingfrost that is AWESOME!! And it is totally within your right to resent me for the dark circles you may have under your eyes today. 😂😂😂
I am already listening to the OST on loop on my commute to work today and I have a feeling I will keep listening for a long time!
I agree that it is not necessary the suspense, but the characters’ longing for one another and the fight to remain emotionally intact despite grief and guilt…all so wistfully handled by the direction and the writing. I am glad Greg Hsu is able to inject so much warmth to the role to make it bearable through it all.
pickleddragon
January 30, 2020 at 8:19 PM
I agree! I’ve been staying away from this because sci-fi is not my thing. But seeing everyone rave about it, I am tempted to dip my fingers in too.
meltingfrost
January 31, 2020 at 6:43 AM
I agree Iโve rarely seen it done well anyway. But as youโll see above I gave it a chance already 😆 and itโs this slow, nostalgic beauty so far! The scifi aspect realistically obviously makes no sense, but I was so drawn in to the characters I didnโt notice it, and was as invested in the sci-fi aspect with them as they were.
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
January 30, 2020 at 10:23 PM
AWWWWEEE
Wait, so the Chinese title of the show is Wanting To See You???
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 12:02 PM
Yeah, “Wanting to See You” is the translation of the Chinese title!
Are you all caught up to the show, @neener?
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
January 31, 2020 at 10:04 PM
Oooohhhh
And Yeap, all caught up. Waiting patiently for Sunday to come 😭
Rumi~
January 31, 2020 at 3:05 AM
Ahh that gif ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh how I wish you’d come join us on discord, we spazz like crazy over there!
๐ kimbap noona
January 31, 2020 at 12:03 PM
Haham @maybemaknae I am sure once I have caught up with the show, I will need to spazz with all of you!! Do you talk about the drama mostly on the C-drama Discord?
Rumi~
January 31, 2020 at 3:49 PM
We have different channels there, but yes we talk about cdramas a lot! __Spontaneous chat happens there, what with reactions & gifs & spoiler function, it’s easy to chat without spoiling the suspense for other watchers.
Come try it once, you’ll like it. It’s like rabbit but better in the chat aspect.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 11:54 AM
This might be the sweetest traffic violation! Since the subtitle only translated partially, I thought Someday or One Day Beanies might take pleasure to know:
-The ticket is issued form โTao Yuan County (where the main airport is) Police Precinct Bureau for Reporting Love Violationโ
-The instigator is โLoveโ
-The stamp says โYu Xuan please marry Zi Wei. Immediately pick a date to get marriedโ
-It is issued to โLoveโ
-The driverโs license number is โ520โ (which sounds similar to โI love youโ in Mandarin)
-For some reason the cop writes โchu miโ (sound of 🐥🐱) after โYu Xuan ~~~~marry himโ
-The ticket is for 9999 TWD (approximately $330) 😱 Thatโs one steep โlove violationโ
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 11:55 AM
@13infamyss, @mayhemf, @oppafangirl, @outofthisworld, @leetennant and all the Beanies who might be watching the show!
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:30 PM
Tagging @neener @pinklollipop @maybemaknae @lugirl131415 itโs not populating Automatically so I hope these are their correct db handles!
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:32 PM
@pinklolipop
Rumi~
January 30, 2020 at 1:24 PM
Thank you for tagging me fammy 🤗💚
THANK YOU KIMBAP! That was so sweet. 💚💛💜💙❤️
(lol it certainly makes me less annoyed at the proposal scene now)
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:06 PM
And it just occurred to me that the ticket is for 9999 TWD is because the number nine is a homonym of “long” meaning they will be together for a long long long long time! Awwwww ❤️
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:43 PM
Cute……
Shindy
January 30, 2020 at 12:10 PM
Thatโs so cute, thank you Kimbap!
Iโm enjoying this drama so much!
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:19 PM
Yaaayyy glad to hear that you are also watching it @shindy!! Are you all caught up?
Shindy
January 30, 2020 at 12:29 PM
Almost caught up!
I only have ep10 to watch and then the terrible waiting… 😭
Iโm glad ep11 is almost there..
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 12:14 PM
Omg! Thank you for this, it is just so freaking cute!
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:19 PM
At first I was not sure about the concept of employing a marriage proposal agency but now this makes much more sense! It sure worked hard for its fee and paid lots of attention to details! 😂
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 12:21 PM
Yes totally, i love people who had in precious little details, it makes it so much more fun to read it agin later.
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:34 PM
Thank you soo much for translating Kimbap!!! The translations have once again failed us and thank you for coming to the rescue!!!
But my eyes went 👀 reading The stamp – Yu Xuan marry Zi Wei????? The drama spoiled it??? 😱😱
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Also I personally thought Vicky should be fired for planning a public proposal like this and on the day sheโs rushing to leave to the airport! 🙈 Iโm not a public kind of person so anything of this kind of display in public embarrasses me. And I just thought what if it went to different directorion and Yu Xuan did not say yes to him! Oh the horror!
But these little details are so cute!
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:53 PM
OMG I failed you, again @13infamyss…..Not Zi Wei…..it says “Quan Sheng.” The drama didn’t fail you, I did. I did.
Twice in 1 day…..*sobs, runs away, and hides
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:54 PM
See? The fanwall recognizes my epic failure toward you @13infamyss and it refused to even let me tag you…..😭😭😭
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 1:42 PM
Thanks kink! Lmao todayโs not the day! Weโve all had that kind of day. Anyways the names might be confusing to you for now because youโre early in the drama.
But to clarify – Li Zi Wei and Chen Yun Ru are the doppelgรคngers from 1998!
Huang Yu Xuan and Wang Quan Sheng are in 2019! 😉😉😉
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 1:08 PM
Oh poor kimbap, hugs!
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 3:03 PM
No agency should hire me with my non-attention to details!!
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
January 30, 2020 at 10:19 PM
AWWEEE This was cute! Thanks for translating Noona!
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM
I have waited to watch Someday or One Day just because I knew that with one episode a week the suspense would become the death of me! I finally started today and 20 minutes in I am already in love with the showโs wistful toneโฆ..it is gonna tear my heart out, isnโt it? 😭😭😭
Even though the drama is fantasy, one thing strikes so real to meโฆthat the OTP would meet up at a drink shop in Taiwan.
If you do make such plans with friends in the city, make sure you specify which one! This pic is taken next to the metro station exit near my parentsโ place in Taipei where there are FOUR drink shops next to each other with more scattered around the block!! 😆
#beverageFTW
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 10:26 AM
Youโve finally started!!! The first two episodes are very sad and heartbreaking, youโll be with her in her journey of getting over (or lack thereof) throughout. 😑
And thanks for that cafe suggestion! I would love to visit Taiwan someday – all those beautiful temples I see on my friendsโ fb pages.
I wondered if the Wu Baiโs Last Dance is a childhood song for you, Kimbap! Itโs such a good song.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 10:47 AM
Ooh @13infamyss the first episode is such an emotional roller coaster…..the memories….the cakes….Vicky…the ring….and I understand perfectly how his parents are ready to move on. I don’t remember the last time an episode made me tear up so many times but I have never been able to deal with death well in a story.
The music is already so lovely throughout the first episode. Wu Bai is definitely a musician from my childhood, but the song Last Dance was released in 2012….and I was definitely a very grown adult by then! 😂
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 11:43 AM
Omiiiiigod! I just noticed it now. Youโve changed your name to the correct and fitting one!!!! 😆😆😆
I am same. I donโt deal with death well and so watching her go through that hurt so much.
Hmmmmm…. Iโm disappointed. This is a fault on the production team.. in the drama, the song was supposed to be a 1998 song…. 🤔🤔🤔
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 12:02 PM
Hehe how could I not change my name with such a fitting suggestion from @mayhemf!!
I Baidued the song like how Gu Wei Yi would, and it shows that it was from 1996! Perhaps the initial search showing 2012 is a re-release? Sorry for the confusion @13infamyss!!
The official MV definitely seems like it is from the 90’s!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jYDYon4sGQ&list=PLRRI_kdzl7LTl1DJPgCKZgl_peExvMXxn&index=7&t=0s
13infamyss
January 30, 2020 at 12:38 PM
Thanks for clarifying kink!!! 😝Glad to know the drama stayed true to a classic song of 90s 😉
KSKalways
January 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM
I just read the synopsis on MyDramaList.Com and… the relationship between the characters sounds sooooooo complicated !
Enjoy!
*beanie finger hearts*
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 10:41 AM
But it’s an excellent show….
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 10:53 AM
Have you caught up to the latest episode yet @oppafangirl? Just judging by the emotional pull of the first episode I can see myself binge my way through episode 10 in a couple days. 😅
oppafangirl
January 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM
I am watching 2-3 episodes a day, i am episode 5 now and i think i will watch ep6 as well. I will watch till ep11 by Sunday and then wait for two weeks to end… I hope i will be able to do it by raving a lot about the show on fanwall.
๐ kimbap noona
January 30, 2020 at 10:50 AM
Thank you @kethysk! I sure hope that the drama would be able to sort out all these complications in a sensical way toward the end….but maybe by then it wouldn’t matter…I would take a happy ending even induced by headscratching metaphysical force that reunites the OTP like Queen Inhyun’s Man!
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 5:59 AM
I love this tweet by the senior writer for Rolling Stone India Riddhi Chakraborty in which she speaks of why she loves The Untamed, as well as how she sees the Chiense censorship:
“Itโs important for our community to have stories like thisโa pure love story that doesnโt become a tragedy because the main couple are two men. They are happy and #theyhaveason! Of course I wish the censorship didnโt exist and that they could show them getting married and being intimate (like they do in the original novel) because thatโs all very much part of our lives as human beings, BUT… this is a step in the right direction.”
For those Beanies who might not be interested in the Boys Love genre, I would urge you to give this drama a try.
Here is Ms. Chakraborty’s moving and beautifully written tweet
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 6:00 AM
@outofthisworld @linda-palapala @trinpie, @shach, @jenmole, @zetteceniza, @giegie0384 @1tea1 @alasecond @bcampbell1662 @egads, @drawde2000, @marites59, @nightmoon, @blueskye @lillamy @stpauligurl , @strawberry, @gadis @gmelenco @artgirl @maybemaknae @bluekitchen @carmen @mrobles @noobita @growingbeautifully @zgs1994 @infinitize @bunny @shinayame @larelle79 @mayhemf @persianrose @pinklolipop @dramalava, @neener, @hades, @llljr
larelle79
January 8, 2020 at 6:08 AM
I will forever appreciate the writers and directors for putting in the work to get past the censorship. Honestly, they could have gone the lazy route and it would have taken away from what made the book/magna so damn special.
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 6:21 AM
So many things could have gone so wrong, but instead we got a drama that is so enriching and satisfying in so many ways. After what happened to The Addicted and how much of the story was altered for Guardian, it is an incredible feat for The Untamed to stay so true to MXTX’s MDZS.
larelle79
January 8, 2020 at 6:39 AM
Guardian was so disappointing. Yes, I said it.
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 6:43 AM
😆😆😆 I think most viewers finished the drama because they love the novel and Bai Yu/Zhu Yilong euphoric chemistry! Considering the production woes and the uncertainty dealing with censorship, fans definitely gave the drama lots of slack imo.
I really wanted to like it but after 3 separate attempts I only lasted as long as episode 20 and got my fill from fan edit YT vids.
larelle79
January 8, 2020 at 6:46 AM
Having pretty people attempt to make googly eyes can only get you so far in a series.
Trinity ๐
January 9, 2020 at 9:18 AM
I only made it 20 episodes in and just couldn’t keep going. The only good thing was the main characters and actors. Everything else about this drama was so so bad.
marites59
January 8, 2020 at 1:25 PM
it was quite a feat for the production team for the hard work that they have done and of course, let’s not forget our Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo for their amazing performance as WWX and LWJ.
Blue (@mayhemf)
January 8, 2020 at 6:09 AM
This was my first BL drama. I donโt know why I havenโt seen one before. It just happened to be. Am so happy this was the first and that this show was so poignant that it beats all love stories. The show made me fall in love with their love and itโs going to be so hard moving away from this. Everything just pales in comparison.
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 6:30 AM
There is a pretty small number of BL dramas available and even a smaller number of BL dramas which are good. Most are low budget productions made for a core audience, but good ones have a lot of heart. But the incredible success of dramas like Guardian and now The Untamed certainly made the industry take notice and now there are dozens of BL dramas in various stages of production in China.
I hear ya @mayhemf about how now everything else just pales in comparison. Their love is grand but also subtle at the same time. It is just so epic in every way.
larelle79
January 8, 2020 at 6:45 AM
Here is hoping, but like all once in a lifetime dramas, people are gonna want this to be the norm and not the exception. When will these studios/production companies get that. The tide is changing and people are growing. Get it together.
Trinity ๐
January 9, 2020 at 9:22 AM
I’m just worried because with how China is they might actually start getting more stringent in their censorship because of how popular The Untamed (and Guardian) were. There have been many ridiculous censorship laws that have come about because of certain dramas being popular.
So I am worried for these future BL productions and that they may be even more gutted then what Guardian was. I hope I’m wrong.
outofthisworld ไธๆงๆฏๆ ๐
January 8, 2020 at 6:26 AM
Ooh awesome that you post this! I read this a while ago and really like what she said.
Linda Palapala
January 8, 2020 at 7:39 AM
I never really perceived Untamed as a BL. Just a profound love story. Never thought the drama really needed intimacy of what we think of as “BL”. It was just perfect as it was.
But in the novel the BL intimacy worked really fine.
larelle79
January 8, 2020 at 7:45 AM
“I never really perceived Untamed as a BL. Just a profound love story.”
ME TOO !!! And I also feel this way about the book as well. I never saw it as BL, just a epic love story.
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 10:47 AM
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๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 10:52 AM
I think I understand your pointย @linda-palapalaย andย @larelle79, which might be that love is love regardless gender, which I wholeheartedly agree. But since depiction of homosexual love is so rare in dramas that we should not lessen the significance of the success of theย The Untamedย here!
Even though I am no expert of the BL genre and its historical evolution, the works in the genre does not always include explicit portrayals of sexual intimacy (if thatโs indeed what you are referring to, which I could totally misunderstood.) I now have read quite a few BL novels which do not include any sex scenes. Also, the fact that MXTX is considered a BL genre writer and TU is an adaptation of her work, I would consider TU a BL drama despite some changes made due to censorship and/or artistic choice by the scriptwriters.
But perhaps this is all beside the point!! I am just so happy to hear from a significant member of the Asian LGBTQ community like Riddhi Chakraborty who loves and appreciates the work and finds consolation in the dramaโs success. That is meaningful for me as a firm supporter of gay rights.
Linda Palapala
January 8, 2020 at 12:02 PM
I’m also a supporter, and TU is a great intro to BL stories, showing those who’ve never tried BL (due to prejudice) that it’s okay and maybe not quite what they imagine . And I’m certainly not trying to lessen the significance of Untamed success – it was beyond successful and even more significant to the success and advancement of BL stories because it was such a beautiful love story, even without showing the intimacy of the novel. Especially for those who never tried anything BL and think they wouldn’t be interested, just because it’s labeled “BL”. (I’m speaking of a dear friend, who I’ve never convinced to watch BL yet). TU is such a great introduction to anything BL.
I just thought the drama was intimate enough without needing to see anything more explicit – in this particular case and drama, not as a general rule and not discounting other BL novels and dramas.
One of my favorite dramas is Addicted, and even though it was censored and then cancelled I was so curious about what the 2nd season would have been like, so much so that I read the novel. Well, at least most of it – I was a bit disappointed in the 2nd half of the novel but for other reasons.
I watch all of the Taiwanese HIStory and applaud their success. Even though the production quality is small (since they have a lot less money than mainland China) I’d support their artistic works anyway.
But, all in all and tbh, I like BL dramas in general because they seem to be able to act more naturally with each other and not forced romance/forced chemisty like so many “normal” (I don’t know what other word to use for male/female!) dramas. I like the way the male characters are written usually more than the way the female characters are written.
I really want to watch S.C.I. that was out in 2018, but can’t find it anywhere – anyone ever hear of this c-drama?
These thoughts are kind of random and all over the place, but right now that’s how my brain is processing! I understand your point and agree with it, but then my thinking went beyond…
Linda Palapala
January 8, 2020 at 12:10 PM
Oops, I got so into this discussion that I just burned up my teapot…
Linda Palapala
January 8, 2020 at 12:24 PM
One more last thought that came to me as I was cleaning my teapot: what started me thinking was when I was trying to figure out what words and explanations to use to get a friend to watch the TU. If I’d tell her it was BL she would never even try it, not in the least interested. But using the words “soulmates” or “cultivation partners who solve mysteries together” and “it has a happy ending”, it’s fantasy, etc., then she might try it and like it.
๐ kimbap noona
January 9, 2020 at 7:24 AM
Oh no! I hope that wasn’t your favorite teapot, @linda-palapala!
S.C.I is available on your usual suspect websites, but unfortunately I see now all episodes are subbed. But since it is a procedural with 5 episodes per case, perhaps it is possible to watch selectively?
I have heard good things about the show, and that the drama did its best to stay true to the OTP as portrayed by the novel although there are some changes with the side characters. It even has a lesbian couple in the show. Imagine that!! I believe that the show had achieved some well deserved success that there is talk of a second season.
marites59
January 8, 2020 at 1:30 PM
I don’t even consider WangXian as gay. they were just two persons who fell for each other deeply.
Rumi~
January 8, 2020 at 10:51 PM
I have a like dislike relationship with Riddhi…. I dislike half her articles because they read more like a personal diary than an interview, but I kinda love her social media posts.
Trinity ๐
January 9, 2020 at 9:44 AM
Very well said. As I’m sure everyone knows, I love this drama. But one thing that made me especially love this drama is the impact it had on my mom.
My mom is very mormon which I’m sure lots of people know are against anything LGBTQ+. I’ve had many discussions about this with her as I am a very strong supporter of gay rights, but she always held to the belief of ‘love the people but not the sin’ (because being born a certain way I suppose makes you a sinner). However, she has specifically told me that she has started to see the LGBTQ+ community in a different light. She is more obsessed with The Untamed then me as she has seen it atleast 5+ times, read the book and also read Heaven’s Official Blessing, watched the BTS, and watched all the fan meets. She loves the relationship in the drama and finds it beautiful. She has even lamented that she wished they kissed. And now in other dramas (like My Country) she will even be like ‘they should be a couple’ to 2 male characters. And the other day she sent me the below image:
I told her it looks like my favorite scene from the book (where he is blindfolded and Lan Zhan takes total advantage of him 😏) and her response was ‘It’s my favorite scene also’.
So even if I didn’t love the drama already, the impact it had on my mom alone, and the fact it changed some of her thoughts on gay relationships and the LGBTQ+ community makes this drama one of the most important, impactful and beloved drama I’ve ever encountered.
๐ kimbap noona
January 9, 2020 at 11:00 AM
Thank you so much for sharing this, @trinpie. I am deeply moved hearing how this drama has such an impact on you in such a personal way. Cheers to this great drama for its ability to make such change one person at a time!! I am hopeful for the future.
Linda Palapala
January 9, 2020 at 12:58 PM
Wow, thanks for sharing – it means a lot, especially knowing some people really can open their hearts and a drama like Untamed can have a positive effect because of its message of love.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 11:21 AM
Lord have mercy. 😭😭😭 Let me perish right here, right now, Your Grace.
Just when I thought your best look is normcore of a comfy sweater or a nicely tailored suit, you decide to do this.
Rid of that offensive fan away!! Why does it frame your face even better than WWX\’s Dizi?
Yes, you are just gonna break our heart and be a villain in the next project, aren\’t you?
Please do, because you can do anything, and do it well.
You make it too easy to be a fan. Just please give me one reason to love you less for self preservation.
#IamJustNotThatIntoYou
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 11:30 AM
The 30,000 copies of this limited edition of Harper Bazaar was sold out in 18 seconds!! I bet the magazine is regretting not printing 100,000 copies instead 😅(I mean, 100,000 is still very limited considering the size of his international fan base right?)
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM
Insane.
Holy Moly, he sure is pretty.
Ayan
January 8, 2020 at 1:06 AM
Woah! These photos are amazing! Maybe they will release more? Fingers crossed there is another release, I would buy it!
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 4:51 AM
I cannot wait to see more pics surfacing from this photo shoot! Apparently the limited edition also includes a poster!
And on the same day, this also happened with another magazine which he is the cover:
https://twitter.com/xzhan1005/status/1214777071341318146?s=19
strawberry
January 7, 2020 at 3:47 PM
omg. my heart is not going to be able to handle this. he needs to chill.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 4:08 PM
If not……we might all self combust @strawberry! 🔥😱🔥
strawberry
January 7, 2020 at 4:55 PM
have mercy~
Currently Living On Planet Earth
January 7, 2020 at 11:23 PM
Whoa. I don’t even know who he is and I’m awed by these pics. These look amazing. 😯
๐ kimbap noona
January 8, 2020 at 4:55 AM
Hahaha @illthinkofoney, I noticed that I didn’t even mention his name….must be too carried away by all the emotions 😆 The object of my affection is the Chinese actor/singer Xiao Zhan who recently starred in the drama The Untamed which you might have seen “a few” fan wall posts made by fans like me.
๐ kimbap noona
January 6, 2020 at 6:10 PM
Kimbapnoona\’s \”End of the Decade\” List Part 11
The Drama That Provoked the Deepest Obsession: The Untamed
The Untamed is a giant vortex that sucked me further and further down to new dimensions.
From the drama,
To the novel and the author Mo Xiang Tong Xiu\’s other works,
To the audio drama, to the donghua,
To the TU bts videos,
To the cast\’s interviews,
To the BJYX/XZ/WYB fandom,
To the Land of Chinese BL novels which I have had so much fun discovering this genre of literature I knew nothing about.
And last but not least, thank you The Untamed for introducing us to Xiao Zhan who made an honest fangirl out of me!
๐ kimbap noona
January 6, 2020 at 6:12 PM
@outofthisworld @linda-palapala @trinpie, @shach, @jenmole, @zetteceniza, @giegie0384 @1tea1 @alasecond @bcampbell1662 @egads, @drawde2000, @marites59, @nightmoon, @blueskye @lillamy @stpauligurl , @strawberry, @gadis @gmelenco @artgirl @maybemaknae @bluekitchen @carmen @mrobles @noobita @growingbeautifully @zgs1994 @infinitize @bunny @shinayame @larelle79 @mayhemf @persianrose @pinklolipop @dramalava
stpauligurl
January 6, 2020 at 6:27 PM
Thank you @kimbapnoona for these wonderful gifs! I listened to the UT OST on my new commute to work this morning. sighhhhh
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
January 6, 2020 at 7:10 PM
Wait who are those pretty people and why are they pouting so…suggestively…at each other?
Ally
January 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Seriously, Isa, you need to watch this.
Infinitize
January 6, 2020 at 9:17 PM
isa, I hope you’re ready.
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
January 6, 2020 at 11:15 PM
As fascinated as I am by the pouty boys I do not think this is a good idea. I mean just as a reminder, I this very day watched 3 eps of Pretty Noona. I am prone to addiction and obsession. Can you imagine me under the influence of these pouty pretty people? It wouldn’t be good. Or healthy. Possibly terrifying.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:21 AM
@isthatacorner, I don’t blame you feeling this way since I am the prime example of the cautionary tale, but the journey down the rabbit hole is sooooooooo ecstatically beautiful……the pout is only a glimpse of the sublimity of The Untamed…..
*twitches in that proverbial corner
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:24 AM
@stpauligurl, how could I forget the music and also the fan fic (thanks for mentioning that @persianrose) as two other dimensions of the Demonic Cultivation!! 😂
I have been listening to TU ost daily for the last 6 months. It is undoubtedly the ost of my life for 2019!!
zette
January 10, 2020 at 4:14 PM
This post covers most, if not, everything I poured over and felt in the last six months and counting! Thank you, Kimbap! ❤ As you’ve said before, The Untamed has been one nutritious bean that’s kept us nourished for a while now. Looking forward to where it takes us! 😁
Jenmole๐
January 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM
One of the best TU/MDZS posts! 👏👏👏 Can’t believe The Untamed gave us so much joy and a big drama slump to BL novels and me watching Our Song raw for XZ. Thanks for being a part of this fangirling journey with me.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:28 AM
@jenmole, I don’t quite know where we are going in this journey but I sure am glad that I have you along the way! 😂
Remember in the beginning we were trying to ween off the obsession and it took less than a week to realize that it was not possible….and the rest is TU fangirl history 😅
zette
January 10, 2020 at 4:10 PM
Glad to be on this journey with you, @jenmole and @giegie0384! 😁❤
Ally
January 6, 2020 at 7:29 PM
I was wondering when you would get to this one.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:31 AM
🤣🤣🤣 Since I have been shamelessly and devotedly posting TU content on the FW (in addition to running an imaginary presidential campaign for WWX) for the last 6 months, I guess it is not surprising that veteran Beanies like you @ally-le would expect that the symptom would exhibit itself once more when I start doing a decade review. 😅😅😅
Linda Palapala
January 6, 2020 at 7:40 PM
As if I didn’t already spend a few hours today YouTub-ing XZ/WYB videos…
And – reading the novel, well, I get thru part of a chapter and think oh, yeah, I loved this part in the Untamed, then go watch that part.
Other BL novels. I tried Addicted but the story isn’t nearly as good as Mo Dao. Just discovered S.C.I. both the novel and the drama which aired last year and trying to find where to watch, where to read.
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:17 AM
@linda-palapala, I love how you are reading the novel and the watching the drama congruently! 😆For me the novel does differ enough from the drama that it felt right to focus on the story as it is its own entity! The novel definitely makes me love WWX more, and feels LZ’s pining even more deeply.
it looks like you can find S.C.I the novel on novelupdates although it looks like so far only 28 out of 130 chapters have been translated so far.
Here is the link: https://www.novelupdates.com/series/s-c-i-mystery-series/
S.C.I the drama is definitely on my watchlist!
I was considering reading “Addicted” but the length scared me off a bit…..maybe a little later when I am ready to commit!
persianroseโค๏ธๆๅฅ
January 6, 2020 at 8:40 PM
I’m still deep down the untamed rabbit hole… after watching the drama zillion times, reading the novel and rereading some chapters 100 times, watching every single BTS over and over, my new obsession is reading TU fan fics… I cannot believe myself but some of them are so damn good 😉😉😉
outofthisworld ไธๆงๆฏๆ ๐
January 6, 2020 at 10:59 PM
Oh I never knew fan fics were this fun until I read TU fan fics!
I rely on others to give recommendations, do you have any? We do talk about TU on c drama thread at Discord, join us if you want to talk about c dramas.
persianroseโค๏ธๆๅฅ
January 7, 2020 at 1:23 PM
I never felt I need fan fics before watching TU… usually I feel satisfied after a drama finishes… this is the 1st time I feel thirsty for more (the more I see the more I want) 😉😉😉 my most favorite ones are the one that are Lan Zhan’s POV, or for modern one Yibo as an extremely cold boy aka ice prince Yibo 😅😅😅
persianroseโค๏ธๆๅฅ
January 7, 2020 at 3:09 PM
@outofthisworld I would like to join, is there a link??
Infinitize
January 6, 2020 at 9:20 PM
What a great journey The Untamed has put us on. Any other novel recommendations? I just finished Heaven Official’s Blessing. *crosses fingers for an drama adaptation*
outofthisworld ไธๆงๆฏๆ ๐
January 6, 2020 at 11:00 PM
Isn’t HOB awesome?
stpauligurl
January 7, 2020 at 2:12 AM
Is that novel translated into English somewhere?
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 6:50 AM
Yes @stpauligurl! Here is the link to the English translation of Heaven Official Blessing:
https://www.sakhyulations.com/novel/heaven-officials-blessing/
Can you imagine that that the HOB world building could be in many ways even more awesome than MDZS? I hope you enjoy it!
outofthisworld ไธๆงๆฏๆ ๐
January 7, 2020 at 7:29 AM
Warning: Rabbit hole ahead!
I couldn’t believe I binge read the novel.
Jenmole๐
January 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM
What! You finished! Yay!
Jenmole๐
January 7, 2020 at 7:45 PM
@stpauligurl the HOB link above only goes up to chapter 24. Another group took over and translated the rest. They used to have a Google Drive but they recently removed it and is now on their Discord.
Here’s the invite and instructions for their Discord: https://suibiansubs.tumblr.com/post/188950640596/suibian-subs-scans-discord-invite
They recently changed their setting to private coz of trolls but will open it back up later. The link above is a good start. I hope you’ll enjoy HOB as much as the rest of us did.
Jenmole๐
January 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM
@stpauligurl, sorry I was so excited to share HOB, I forgot the Discord is for the MDZs audio drama, manhua and more. Just not HOB translated novel. The below tweet will bring you to the Google Drive that stores the novel. It’s a read only file. They’ve been burned too many times with people stealing and uploading their translatedbuts.
https://twitter.com/yummysuika/status/1061120137523314688?s=21
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 6:55 AM
@infinitize, drama adaptation is in the works although no concrete announcement for production or casting yet.
The manhua looks exquisite but the wait for new chapter has been painful. 😭 Here is the link if you’d like to check it out!
https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/aa920909/chapter_1
๐ kimbap noona
January 7, 2020 at 7:09 AM
@infinitize, since I am a native Mandarin speaker, I have been lucky to freely explore all the BL literature available to me online so about the dozen novels I’ve read so far have not been translated (and all BL novels to my knowledge are published first online before reaching enough popularity put them into print!)
I would recommend Priest’s “Guardian” (the story is quite different from the drama version) and the translation is almost complete. If you like MXTX, you might also like the grand world building here.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/guardian/
(Priest, like MXTX, is a lauded BL genre writer.)
I recently finished “The Daily Life of Being the Campus Idolโs Fake Boyfriend” is a really fun fluffy read!
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-daily-life-of-being-the-campus-idols-fake-boyfriend/
Infinitize
January 7, 2020 at 9:30 PM
Thanks for the novel recommendations; can’t wait to read them! Geez, what a rabbit hole The Untamed really is. Ha! Wish I was able to read more of what’s available, but I’m super thankful to the fans who have worked to translate so many already!
Infinitize
January 7, 2020 at 9:24 PM