A fitting, bittersweet ending for Hotel De Luna — the best I’ve seen from Hong Sisters. The theme of letting go was consistent beginning to end. I never expected a happy ending so I didn’t feel disappointed. I’m content.
I love the connection that Man Wol and Chan Sung had 1300 years ago. Even before Yeon Woo and Chung Myeong came into her life, Chan Sung was her savior. The scarf was his gift. The legend of the Moon Inn came from his words of condolence. It was a brief encounter that took 1300 years to bloom into love. At the end, they shared a dream of their past and a promise to their future. How beautiful
For Man Wol, moving on is a must. She’s seen enough people pass away before her. Staying tied to the hotel is not an option. It would be torturous to spend many many years with Chan Sung only to see him age and die at the end. Her pain of separation will only last the distance of Samdocheon. She crossed over as a weightless soul, facing a brand new beginning, with hopes to meet Chan Sung in the future and fall in love with him all over again.
I’m very sad for Chan Sung. Our perfect, selfless, “weak” human deserves better. He’s the only one left to suffer. He was in no way blessed by the deities at all. Fortunately, he’s a resilient person capable to heal himself. When gods are not reliable, a healthy mentality is all that we can rely on. I believe he will live a good life. He represents us — anyone who has faced the departure of a loved one. So he will survive.
At the end, he’s the tiger in his own painting. Man Wol will exist in his imaginary refuge until the day they really meet again. When they do, they will start a new love story and live a long life together.
I put it on hold after ep. 10 and don’t know if I want to drop it or not. I was a little annoyed by the corrupted and powerful politician and by the fact that the meaning of the parallel universe wasn’t clear (at the beginning I thought it helped to right the wrong of the “real” reality, but there were a lot of injustices there, too).
Is it worth to continue watching?
This is interesting. Mago secretly placed the moon spirit flower in Chan Sung’s heart back when Man Wol, actually Hyun Jung, carried the unconscious Chan Sung back to the hotel. However that was actually the first buds of the tree and the first birthday gift Man Wol gave Chan Sung.
She had since sent him flowers every birthday to remind him to return. Invested diamonds aside, 20 birthday gifts is quite a start for her to be emotionally invested in him. Then Mago placed a part of her (the tree is her) in his heart. That’s when he started dreaming of her.
I was relieved that Chung Myeong left Chan Sung after he brought him out of the tunnel. Unfortunately the damage was done and Man Wol goes crazy for misinterpreting that feeling as a sign of reincarnation. Mago purposely mislead her (what a b*tch! ok, I know her intention. I\’m calm). IU pleading for a straight answer was heart breaking to watch. Her dream of killing Chan Sung made me jump a little.
Man Wol unable to harm Chan Sung with her own hands shows how deep her love has grown in a matter of months. Unfortunately she can\’t give up the revenge she has longed for 1300 years. That just shows how much she hated Chung Myeong. And no, I do not believe she had any love left for him after 1300 years. Her budding love has completely shifted to Yeon Woo whom she felt so sad and guilty for losing. She was more emotional to see the detective than the (exonerated) Chung Myeong standing before her. The reason for her emotional outburst earlier in the episode was mainly due to Chan Sung, not Chung Myeong. I\’m glad that she gave up revenge before knowing the truth. It means the love she now harbors won over the hate that resided 1300 long years in her heart.
I liked that we did not get a one-sided narrative from Chung Myeong about the truth. This guy has poor communication skills. Most of what he said to her was ambiguous. For the benefit of the doubt, let\’s just say his ambiguity was unintentional, so speaking less is better. Besides, the joke that Mira getting black-out-drunk at the hotel again is funny. The tears from Young Soo/YW had more tug on my heart than Chung Myeong. Yeon Woo\’s love was so deep that his feelings haven\’t completely severed. I believe most of Man Wol\’s tears came from visualizing Yeon Woo. A huge part of her guilt and hate towards Chung Myeong had to do with Yeon Woo\’s death. The realization that it was Yeon Woo\’s wish to keep her alive gave her the most significant reason to let go. So at the end, it wasn\’t some endless love between Man Wol and Chung Myeong, it was an endless love between Man Wol and Yeon Woo. Thank you writter-nims.
Chan Sung has got to be the most perfect male lead in kdrama, ever. When he realized Man Wol planned a triple-combo-suicide (ghost kills CS, Mago pulverizes MW, Grim Reaper captures ghost), his concern was just to save her. He knows what she needs and when, whether it\’s direct truths, reverse psychology or just silence. He eggs her to try and kill him. He has a lot faith in Man Wol\’s love, but more so, he wants her to feel how killing him doesn\’t help (he wouldn\’t know she dreamed of it already). After setting up the \”rerun\”, he considerately stepped outside to let her watch her past alone. He was confident that past \”lover\” was no competition. He just waited patiently for her to finish her business. No questions asked, he just lent her his shoulder and warmth from his hands. (Darn! The bar is too high already.)
Chan Sung and his smart backup plans are so refreshing compared to other hot-headed male leads. The serial killer ending was anticlimactic and turned rather comedic with the hotel staff ganging up on him only to have the unreliable Grim Reaper grab him (Man Wol gave you one job!). Not gonna complain. I really don\’t care to see a long supernatural battle without Man Wol. I love how the victims get to mess with the serial killer before they leave. I hope Ms. Choi briefed them not to turn into vengeful ghosts.
Man Wol had to bring Chung Myeong to afterlife as the last deed for her sins. Being the \”kinder person\” that Chan Sung described, I think she did it out of humanity and had absolutely no intention to cross over with him. Question is if she remembers to return to Chan Sung. Of course she will. Chan Sung didn\’t stop her. He knows the bridge takes 49 days to cross. He misses her so much but waits patiently. His faith wavers only because of the seemingly dead tree, but he never shows his sadness. That last scene when he let it out, it was unprecedentedly heartbreaking to watch. Having seen almost all of Jingoo\’s dramas, this scene hurts the most.
strictly speaking, what MW planned was a single death suicide-by-Mago. she never intended to get CS hurt: just to put up a sufficiently credible attempt that the gods would intervene, saving CS and destroying MW in retaliation.
I think she did want to kill CS. Mago made her believe he’s CM. Mago wanted her to empty out her grudges. She took it differently. Her current body/mind is in love with CS so she doesn’t have the (will) power to kill him. Her past however doesn’t love Chan Sung and is raging with hatred towards CM. She drew out her past and channeled her into the hairpin.
She picked Seol Ji Won because he has a grudge with Chan Sung but he doesn’t have the power to kill. (After police took down the Hell-o site, Seol Ji Won lost his sheild that protected him on the rooftop. He’s just a regular weak ghost now hiding in the dark.)
She said that she must take him (CM’s reincarnation) to the bottom (hell), when he shows up and she was setting up for that. The minute CS dies, her powers (in the hairpin) will be held accountable and Mago can blast her to ashes.
When Chan Sung returned with the hairpin, she gave up killing him and just asked to be extinguished. Chan Sung asked her to kill him (continuing the lie that he is CM) and she did change the hairpin to a dagger. With him standing before her, she just couldn’t and gave up.
I don’t think so. there is an explicit conversation with CS (just after giving the curse to psycho ghost) where she says that since the gods love CS she expects them to save him anyways but that she will not be the one protecting him on that particular occasion.
she may have wanted CM dead, but she did not (at least not after imagining the scenario to it’s full consequences) want CS dead. she said so in the scene I mentioned. also CS trusted her words enough to prove it to the gods by giving her back the moon ornament thing in front of MG4.
My take was a little different. I thought she was going through the motions of her revenge because she could not stop herself, but she had also accepted that she would fail at it because of her feelings for CS.
CM showing up as CS means she can’t have her planned revenge (because of her love). CS turning out to be CM’s reincarnation means there is no possible happy ending for her (because of her hate). So her only out was complete obliteration.
And there are no certainties, so she did risk CS’s life to some degree… but she had to do that to prove evil intent. So I’d say 100% bet on her death but a lot less than 50% on CS’s (she made sure the reaper was around, and gave CS explicit warning).
I don’t object to that. More or less than 50%, she still stuck his neck out there.
I don’t blame her because Mago is f*cking with her mind. Chan Sung was making good progress changing her to be “kinder” and then this happens. It’s really sad to be her.
Man Wol has never trusted Mago, or at least never believed the right one will show up when needed. She can’t be sure that someone will save Chan Sung, but a part of her does wish he survives. That way she can say she tried but god was on his side.
I do think she has the intention to kill. I found the scene reflects the duel scene of Man-Wol and Chung-Myung in the past. She was so determined to end his life at first but when her sword finally pointing at his throat she hesitated. That time because of her feelings for Chung-Myung, this time she also gave up because of her love for Chan-Sung. I really appreciate the consistency in the character’s personality in this drama. Well-written and well-played.
Yes, the consistency. Despite the recent lovey dovey scenes, deep down her personality she is still very lethal. When she made the decision she definitely had the intention to kill. However, the Man Wol that hopes Mago or Death will save him is the Man Wol who loves him, and her vile ancient self has already left her vessel, so she couldn’t resist warning him.
“I believe most of Man Wol’s tears came from visualizing Yeon Woo. A huge part of her guilt and hate towards Chung Myeong had to do with Yeon Woo’s death. The realization that it was Yeon Woo’s wish to keep her alive gave her the most significant reason to let go. So at the end, it wasn’t some endless love between Man Wol and Chung Myeong, it was an endless love between Man Wol and Yeon Woo.”
THIS THIS THIS, a thousand times THIS! people were so focused on CM’s supposed love/ devotion to MW by selfishly making decisions that benefitted him, they completely forgot the love between Yeonwu and MW. Had this been a story about the 3, realistically, everyone wouldve been rooting for Yeonwu til the very end as he truly loved her and would die trying to protect her, which he did. I dont even think she forgave the captain at the end. She was just tired of it all and I think she felt more anger thinking CS couldve been CM, than actually seeing CM again 1300 years later. At this point, I think her anger towards him had faded, unbeknownst to her, once she fell in love and found happiness with CS. Yeonwu and his love for MW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . Til the very end he loved her and thats why both their scene when she sees him again in the present and the scene when hes in the car are so touching and heartwarming. CM has yet to make me feel anything like that.
I feel irritated that people keep ignoring Yeon Woo. He was Man Wol’s most important in the past and still very cherished in her heart in present day. The relationship was more family than romantic, but significantly deeper than whatever she had with the Chung Myung. In fact, we see that all the staff have family reasons to stay behind, not romance.
“…triple-combo-suicide…” It’s not right but I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣 (P.S. Yes, I am stalking your fan wall because you have some great posts on Hotel del Luna 😶)
When he met Man Wol knowing they come from rival ethnic groups, he thought he could flirt without consequences. After he fell in love, he thought he had a choice between his and her people. When he gave up her people to save his own, he thought he can keep her alive and reconcile in the future. When he realized her loss was too painful, he thought giving up his life would spare her the sin. When he was dying as a traitor, he thought romantic promises can redeem some of his love. When he didn’t leave to afterlife, he thought he was keeping her company. His series of romantic decisions were made believing he had some chance to remain Man Wol’s love. In the end she only hated him. No, she didn’t wait 1300 years out of love. All her actions says otherwise. After she heard the truth, she just let go. We can’t even tell if she forgave him. She just had enough. When she returned to her office and leaned on Chan Sung’s shoulder after meeting Chung Myeong, she was simply exhausted.
He’s unfortunate, but he was never right for her. Even when she did Mago a favor to bring him to afterlife, he extended his hand asking to crossover together — just delusional to the very end.
What?!!! Now sleepover after that kiss?
Writernim…🔪 (jk)
The scene in Chan Sung’s room was really sweet, and informative. Man Wol gives Chan Sung the specs of crossing over. On a bridge that takes 49 living days to cross, souls lose their memories bit by bit. Here I see a silver lining for Man Wol’s next life to keep some significant memories of Chan Sung. Chan Sung is really a pro at wooing Man Wol. He’s apparently doing it to make her feel as happy as their time permits, and not to get laid or something.
Poor Ms. Choi, her husband’s family is scum and deserves to die off. Even after many generations they wanted to hurt her daughter. Removing someone’s grave is a huge deal. Asian believe it hurts the deceased for many lives ahead. Ms. Choi’s rage was understandable.
Chan Sung being the best therapist he is finally wears the tiger (leopard) suit to give Ms. Choi a good giggle. I love how Man Wol proudly looks at him cheering up Ms.Choi, like you can tell she’s thinking “that man belongs to me”. She finally breaks it to scholar Kim that she can’t stop the tree from blooming because she loves CS too much, and she’s enjoying it.
Again Man Wol’s teasing backfires. She said she’ll strip CS naked to put on that tiger suit again. He’s like, do it if you can handle it. I know MW is supposed to be 1300 years old but she’s never been in a sexual relationship so I can accept the writers making her act immature in this topic. Plus IU did that expression so well. Cutest looking MW ever.
Mago 5 is introduced as the god of fortune $$. Man Wol shamelessly tells her to come to the hotel often.🤣 She tells CS to take care of the hotel’s first guest, i.e. Chung Myeong.
I almost forgot Man Wol didn’t know Yoong Soo and Mira are dating. This shocked her a great deal, that the deities would play such a sick joke on enemies. I believe this feeling will come into play next episode when she starts (falsely) believing Chan Sung is Chung Myeong’s reincarnation.
First time we actually see Man Wol teleporting. Why didn’t she do it last time when Chan Sung was missing? I guess I’ll have to take it that she needs destination coordinates but she can’t sense where people are.
Man Wol finally tells Chan Sung how she killed Chung Myeong. I get that CM is a good guy and he loves her. I still don’t like him very much mostly because he keeps sending Man Wol mixed signals, from their acquaintance until his death and even until 1300 years after when he possesses Chan Sung. Not his conscious fault but Man Wol is just really unlucky to have ever met him.
My interpretation of Yeon Wol’s words is: Live as the traitor of Man Wol so she can live on. It’s the concept like putting a rival fishes side by side to stimulate their survival will. He tried to do it, but it seems like at his last minute he changed his mind and wants her to know he loves her. He could have stood still and let her kill him the moment he walked in, but he fought her, vigorously. After she slits his back, he starts rambling what seems to be him feeling guilty for Yeon Woo’s death. If he felt guilty, he could have committed suicide with his own sword, but no, he walks into her sword. Then he rambles more about seeing her as his beautiful bride on their wedding night and he being the eternal full moon that will look over her (no wonder she hates the damn moon). 😒
Really? Yeon Woo gave you one job! If Man Wol killed him by her own hands, she would have at least satisfied some rage through vengeance. If her heart weakened and decided to let him live, it’s still her choice to let go or regret. Chung Myeong’s assisted suicide and awfully delivered last minute confession left the poor girl in utter confusion that turned into a raging massacre. And worse is the killing did fix her confusion and waiting for the answer has become a curse.
Yes, Chung Myeong waited 1300 years near the tree. Poor soul. I should sympathize but I’m having trouble because he seems to need acknowledgment for his love and it just doesn’t seem like genuinely sacrificing for Man Wol.
Chan Sung walks into the tunnel chasing a living boy (damn you preview red herrings). He walks in as himself and walks out as Chung Myeong. Now I know why they needed an actor like Yeo Jin Goo and casted him while he was filming Crowned Clown. Acting multiple personalities is really his thing (next to dying). Earlier we had a small glimpses of him playing Hyun Jung, now as Chung Myeong. He really did walk out like a whole different person. IU was also amazing as she shifted from worried to afraid, instantly realizing Chan Sung’s gentle pats on the back was replaced by cupping on the back of her head. Now we know why the hugs and kiss scene made us pay attention to Chan Sung’s hand.
The previews of episode 14 seems like Man Wol mistook this feeling as Chan Sung being Chung Myeong’s reincarnation. This misunderstanding is potentially deadly. Seems like she will help the serial killer level up to have the ability to kill Chan Sung. 😥 Hopefully she’ll snap out of it soon enough to save him and finish off the serial killer.
I don’t think Man Wol will think Chan Sung is Chung Myung reincarnated. She always knows he’s not + according to the rules of this world, reincarnated people return with the same body/face. So when she asked him “why are you” at the end, she already knows that CM has possessed CS’s body.
Also it looks to my like CM did indeed betray MW’s tribe, but perhaps bargained for her life because he fell in love with her though he should not have. :/ They were a gang of thieves right? Killing travellers and stealing their possessions – he did have a duty to do when he approached them. He carried through with it, is what I’m speculating. 🤔 Or maybe he tried to let them go but in that last scene when he wants to give MW that hair pin, the Princess had him followed. So it was an unintentional betrayal.
Man Wol never thought that Chan Sung is CM because she never felt his presence in him. That just changed because of the possession. Even if CM leaves CS’s body, she will keep double guessing her feelings.
Man Wol’s gang weren’t just thieves (stealing from anyone rich), they’re rebels that constantly clash with the government (because their country was defeated and taken over by the ruling government).
They did not show the whole truth yet, but I believe he didn’t lead the Princess to capture them. It just happened but he was not loyal to the bandits and just let them get caught. Listening to Yeon Woo, he played the traitor so Man Wol would believe he lead the roundup for merit, so she will stay alive to kill him. He probably thought if she lives, he can explain it later. However death of everyone else and Man Wol being credited to aiding the operation made her too mad to listen. He committed suicide before he gave her the whole truth. Which would be fine if he didn’t say anything at all. What I hated was the supposedly romantic confession and promise that he made before dying. He didn’t want to be a traitor in her eyes. He wanted to redeem himself in he last moment. I also think he stayed around 1300 years not for taking care of Man Wol, but for a chance to redeem himself.
sph_7
September 1, 2019 at 5:26 PM
A fitting, bittersweet ending for Hotel De Luna — the best I’ve seen from Hong Sisters. The theme of letting go was consistent beginning to end. I never expected a happy ending so I didn’t feel disappointed. I’m content.
I love the connection that Man Wol and Chan Sung had 1300 years ago. Even before Yeon Woo and Chung Myeong came into her life, Chan Sung was her savior. The scarf was his gift. The legend of the Moon Inn came from his words of condolence. It was a brief encounter that took 1300 years to bloom into love. At the end, they shared a dream of their past and a promise to their future. How beautiful
For Man Wol, moving on is a must. She’s seen enough people pass away before her. Staying tied to the hotel is not an option. It would be torturous to spend many many years with Chan Sung only to see him age and die at the end. Her pain of separation will only last the distance of Samdocheon. She crossed over as a weightless soul, facing a brand new beginning, with hopes to meet Chan Sung in the future and fall in love with him all over again.
I’m very sad for Chan Sung. Our perfect, selfless, “weak” human deserves better. He’s the only one left to suffer. He was in no way blessed by the deities at all. Fortunately, he’s a resilient person capable to heal himself. When gods are not reliable, a healthy mentality is all that we can rely on. I believe he will live a good life. He represents us — anyone who has faced the departure of a loved one. So he will survive.
At the end, he’s the tiger in his own painting. Man Wol will exist in his imaginary refuge until the day they really meet again. When they do, they will start a new love story and live a long life together.
strawberry
September 1, 2019 at 8:21 PM
I guess this is the price he has to pay that Ma-go alluded to all this time, to be the one left behind. 🥺
SuShin
September 2, 2019 at 5:31 AM
With their red string of fate still connected (as sweet MaGo hinted), I choose to believe they will definitely meet again pretty soon. (^-^)
sph_7
September 1, 2019 at 7:02 AM
#HDL Finale
Sad and platonic, but the love is deeper than any romance I could remember.💕
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 10:17 PM
LOL… It took 14.5 episodes for Man Wol to get her princess carry, and he didn’t even take her all the way to her room.😅
happiness
September 1, 2019 at 3:31 AM
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sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 10:30 AM
#HDL 15 Trivia
The Go game between Mago and Chan Sung was replay of the famous match between Lee Sedol and AlphaGo (Google AI)
Source:http://m.dcinside.com/board/hoteltvn/91752
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 10:34 AM
Chan Sung represents AlphaGo of course, and beats Mago.
Clauie
August 31, 2019 at 7:35 PM
I’m amazed that you managed to catch that ahahaha
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 9:48 PM
Not me. Korean viewers caught it.
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 8:41 AM
Everything is sweeter on Man Wol’s Instagram.❣️
Seriously Chan Sung, are you healthy or not? She was literally begging. How could you?😤😅
Swipe 🔙
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 6:54 AM
#HDL15 What a serene ending for a second-to-last episode. I’m sad but so happy for them.
sph_7
August 31, 2019 at 5:59 AM
Awwww…..
Everyone’s back!
sph_7
August 30, 2019 at 11:00 PM
I’m a sucker for PPL 😅
My name also is Moon in Hanja, so natural this looked very attractive to me. Look, it even has its own clinging Chan Sung (bright star).
sph_7
August 30, 2019 at 7:19 PM
OMG… I love this!
C: Firefly
sph_7
August 30, 2019 at 6:51 PM
Argh… Class of Lies… I love it but I can’t express why I love about it because everyone is so damn evil.
sph_7
August 30, 2019 at 2:38 PM
#HDL… I hope Chan Sung is only time traveling in his dreams😥. Don’t screw this up Hong Sisters.
sph_7
August 29, 2019 at 6:54 PM
I’m gonna miss them so much, together and separately.
sph_7
August 28, 2019 at 9:28 PM
I like Welcome2Life. I’m just afraid he will go back to his real life.
Karmen ~ 🍜🏢🎭 ~ 📚☔🦋 ~ 🪂🌱💘 ~ ✨🍊💫 ~
August 29, 2019 at 3:14 PM
I put it on hold after ep. 10 and don’t know if I want to drop it or not. I was a little annoyed by the corrupted and powerful politician and by the fact that the meaning of the parallel universe wasn’t clear (at the beginning I thought it helped to right the wrong of the “real” reality, but there were a lot of injustices there, too).
Is it worth to continue watching?
sph_7
August 30, 2019 at 2:51 PM
I’m kinda on the fence now too.
sph_7
August 28, 2019 at 5:56 PM
Wow! HDL finale cameo!
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
August 28, 2019 at 5:58 PM
He sends food truck, they ask for a cameo 😅😅😅
sph_7
August 28, 2019 at 6:00 PM
Seems planned from the beginning. The director directed My Love From The Stars.
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
August 28, 2019 at 6:15 PM
Yup 😅😅😂😂
sph_7
August 27, 2019 at 4:50 PM
#HDL 1-2 Rewatch
(yes, already, I need my crack before weekend)
This is interesting. Mago secretly placed the moon spirit flower in Chan Sung’s heart back when Man Wol, actually Hyun Jung, carried the unconscious Chan Sung back to the hotel. However that was actually the first buds of the tree and the first birthday gift Man Wol gave Chan Sung.
She had since sent him flowers every birthday to remind him to return. Invested diamonds aside, 20 birthday gifts is quite a start for her to be emotionally invested in him. Then Mago placed a part of her (the tree is her) in his heart. That’s when he started dreaming of her.
sph_7
August 27, 2019 at 7:00 AM
Every thing needs to be subbed faster.
Or maybe I should slow down.
larelle79
August 27, 2019 at 7:10 AM
Yes to the 1st.
Neva to the 2nd.
sph_7
August 27, 2019 at 7:12 AM
lol… yes, 2 is hard
Blue (@mayhemf)
August 27, 2019 at 8:32 AM
I have been slowing down. I don’t watch anything Mon-Tue since Mo18/wanna hear song are never dubbed. So I just watch them over the weekend.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM
Episode 14 (cont..):
I was relieved that Chung Myeong left Chan Sung after he brought him out of the tunnel. Unfortunately the damage was done and Man Wol goes crazy for misinterpreting that feeling as a sign of reincarnation. Mago purposely mislead her (what a b*tch! ok, I know her intention. I\’m calm). IU pleading for a straight answer was heart breaking to watch. Her dream of killing Chan Sung made me jump a little.
Man Wol unable to harm Chan Sung with her own hands shows how deep her love has grown in a matter of months. Unfortunately she can\’t give up the revenge she has longed for 1300 years. That just shows how much she hated Chung Myeong. And no, I do not believe she had any love left for him after 1300 years. Her budding love has completely shifted to Yeon Woo whom she felt so sad and guilty for losing. She was more emotional to see the detective than the (exonerated) Chung Myeong standing before her. The reason for her emotional outburst earlier in the episode was mainly due to Chan Sung, not Chung Myeong. I\’m glad that she gave up revenge before knowing the truth. It means the love she now harbors won over the hate that resided 1300 long years in her heart.
I liked that we did not get a one-sided narrative from Chung Myeong about the truth. This guy has poor communication skills. Most of what he said to her was ambiguous. For the benefit of the doubt, let\’s just say his ambiguity was unintentional, so speaking less is better. Besides, the joke that Mira getting black-out-drunk at the hotel again is funny. The tears from Young Soo/YW had more tug on my heart than Chung Myeong. Yeon Woo\’s love was so deep that his feelings haven\’t completely severed. I believe most of Man Wol\’s tears came from visualizing Yeon Woo. A huge part of her guilt and hate towards Chung Myeong had to do with Yeon Woo\’s death. The realization that it was Yeon Woo\’s wish to keep her alive gave her the most significant reason to let go. So at the end, it wasn\’t some endless love between Man Wol and Chung Myeong, it was an endless love between Man Wol and Yeon Woo. Thank you writter-nims.
More thoughts on Chung Myeong:
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/geliguolu/activity/860134/
Chan Sung has got to be the most perfect male lead in kdrama, ever. When he realized Man Wol planned a triple-combo-suicide (ghost kills CS, Mago pulverizes MW, Grim Reaper captures ghost), his concern was just to save her. He knows what she needs and when, whether it\’s direct truths, reverse psychology or just silence. He eggs her to try and kill him. He has a lot faith in Man Wol\’s love, but more so, he wants her to feel how killing him doesn\’t help (he wouldn\’t know she dreamed of it already). After setting up the \”rerun\”, he considerately stepped outside to let her watch her past alone. He was confident that past \”lover\” was no competition. He just waited patiently for her to finish her business. No questions asked, he just lent her his shoulder and warmth from his hands. (Darn! The bar is too high already.)
Chan Sung and his smart backup plans are so refreshing compared to other hot-headed male leads. The serial killer ending was anticlimactic and turned rather comedic with the hotel staff ganging up on him only to have the unreliable Grim Reaper grab him (Man Wol gave you one job!). Not gonna complain. I really don\’t care to see a long supernatural battle without Man Wol. I love how the victims get to mess with the serial killer before they leave. I hope Ms. Choi briefed them not to turn into vengeful ghosts.
Man Wol had to bring Chung Myeong to afterlife as the last deed for her sins. Being the \”kinder person\” that Chan Sung described, I think she did it out of humanity and had absolutely no intention to cross over with him. Question is if she remembers to return to Chan Sung. Of course she will. Chan Sung didn\’t stop her. He knows the bridge takes 49 days to cross. He misses her so much but waits patiently. His faith wavers only because of the seemingly dead tree, but he never shows his sadness. That last scene when he let it out, it was unprecedentedly heartbreaking to watch. Having seen almost all of Jingoo\’s dramas, this scene hurts the most.
CHARLIE
August 26, 2019 at 2:24 PM
strictly speaking, what MW planned was a single death suicide-by-Mago. she never intended to get CS hurt: just to put up a sufficiently credible attempt that the gods would intervene, saving CS and destroying MW in retaliation.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 2:59 PM
I think she did want to kill CS. Mago made her believe he’s CM. Mago wanted her to empty out her grudges. She took it differently. Her current body/mind is in love with CS so she doesn’t have the (will) power to kill him. Her past however doesn’t love Chan Sung and is raging with hatred towards CM. She drew out her past and channeled her into the hairpin.
She picked Seol Ji Won because he has a grudge with Chan Sung but he doesn’t have the power to kill. (After police took down the Hell-o site, Seol Ji Won lost his sheild that protected him on the rooftop. He’s just a regular weak ghost now hiding in the dark.)
She said that she must take him (CM’s reincarnation) to the bottom (hell), when he shows up and she was setting up for that. The minute CS dies, her powers (in the hairpin) will be held accountable and Mago can blast her to ashes.
When Chan Sung returned with the hairpin, she gave up killing him and just asked to be extinguished. Chan Sung asked her to kill him (continuing the lie that he is CM) and she did change the hairpin to a dagger. With him standing before her, she just couldn’t and gave up.
CHARLIE
August 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM
I don’t think so. there is an explicit conversation with CS (just after giving the curse to psycho ghost) where she says that since the gods love CS she expects them to save him anyways but that she will not be the one protecting him on that particular occasion.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 3:24 PM
That doesn’t mean she didn’t want him dead.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 3:27 PM
Him as in Chung Myeong.
CHARLIE
August 26, 2019 at 3:38 PM
she may have wanted CM dead, but she did not (at least not after imagining the scenario to it’s full consequences) want CS dead. she said so in the scene I mentioned. also CS trusted her words enough to prove it to the gods by giving her back the moon ornament thing in front of MG4.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 3:44 PM
But she believes CS is CM.
If she didn’t want to hurt CS, she could have gone after Mira. That would definitely get her pulverized by Mago.
I think her plan had at least 50% chance to kill CS and 100% chance to end her own misery.
CHARLIE
August 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM
My take was a little different. I thought she was going through the motions of her revenge because she could not stop herself, but she had also accepted that she would fail at it because of her feelings for CS.
CM showing up as CS means she can’t have her planned revenge (because of her love). CS turning out to be CM’s reincarnation means there is no possible happy ending for her (because of her hate). So her only out was complete obliteration.
And there are no certainties, so she did risk CS’s life to some degree… but she had to do that to prove evil intent. So I’d say 100% bet on her death but a lot less than 50% on CS’s (she made sure the reaper was around, and gave CS explicit warning).
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 4:07 PM
I don’t object to that. More or less than 50%, she still stuck his neck out there.
I don’t blame her because Mago is f*cking with her mind. Chan Sung was making good progress changing her to be “kinder” and then this happens. It’s really sad to be her.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 3:36 PM
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sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 3:37 PM
Man Wol has never trusted Mago, or at least never believed the right one will show up when needed. She can’t be sure that someone will save Chan Sung, but a part of her does wish he survives. That way she can say she tried but god was on his side.
SuShin
August 27, 2019 at 12:47 AM
I do think she has the intention to kill. I found the scene reflects the duel scene of Man-Wol and Chung-Myung in the past. She was so determined to end his life at first but when her sword finally pointing at his throat she hesitated. That time because of her feelings for Chung-Myung, this time she also gave up because of her love for Chan-Sung. I really appreciate the consistency in the character’s personality in this drama. Well-written and well-played.
sph_7
August 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM
Yes, the consistency. Despite the recent lovey dovey scenes, deep down her personality she is still very lethal. When she made the decision she definitely had the intention to kill. However, the Man Wol that hopes Mago or Death will save him is the Man Wol who loves him, and her vile ancient self has already left her vessel, so she couldn’t resist warning him.
Valentina
August 26, 2019 at 8:49 PM
“I believe most of Man Wol’s tears came from visualizing Yeon Woo. A huge part of her guilt and hate towards Chung Myeong had to do with Yeon Woo’s death. The realization that it was Yeon Woo’s wish to keep her alive gave her the most significant reason to let go. So at the end, it wasn’t some endless love between Man Wol and Chung Myeong, it was an endless love between Man Wol and Yeon Woo.”
THIS THIS THIS, a thousand times THIS! people were so focused on CM’s supposed love/ devotion to MW by selfishly making decisions that benefitted him, they completely forgot the love between Yeonwu and MW. Had this been a story about the 3, realistically, everyone wouldve been rooting for Yeonwu til the very end as he truly loved her and would die trying to protect her, which he did. I dont even think she forgave the captain at the end. She was just tired of it all and I think she felt more anger thinking CS couldve been CM, than actually seeing CM again 1300 years later. At this point, I think her anger towards him had faded, unbeknownst to her, once she fell in love and found happiness with CS. Yeonwu and his love for MW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . Til the very end he loved her and thats why both their scene when she sees him again in the present and the scene when hes in the car are so touching and heartwarming. CM has yet to make me feel anything like that.
sph_7
August 26, 2019 at 9:28 PM
I feel irritated that people keep ignoring Yeon Woo. He was Man Wol’s most important in the past and still very cherished in her heart in present day. The relationship was more family than romantic, but significantly deeper than whatever she had with the Chung Myung. In fact, we see that all the staff have family reasons to stay behind, not romance.
Eighteen
April 24, 2020 at 10:45 PM
“…triple-combo-suicide…” It’s not right but I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣 (P.S. Yes, I am stalking your fan wall because you have some great posts on Hotel del Luna 😶)
sph_7
August 25, 2019 at 8:52 PM
Episode 14:
One word explains Chung Myeong: Delusional.
When he met Man Wol knowing they come from rival ethnic groups, he thought he could flirt without consequences. After he fell in love, he thought he had a choice between his and her people. When he gave up her people to save his own, he thought he can keep her alive and reconcile in the future. When he realized her loss was too painful, he thought giving up his life would spare her the sin. When he was dying as a traitor, he thought romantic promises can redeem some of his love. When he didn’t leave to afterlife, he thought he was keeping her company. His series of romantic decisions were made believing he had some chance to remain Man Wol’s love. In the end she only hated him. No, she didn’t wait 1300 years out of love. All her actions says otherwise. After she heard the truth, she just let go. We can’t even tell if she forgave him. She just had enough. When she returned to her office and leaned on Chan Sung’s shoulder after meeting Chung Myeong, she was simply exhausted.
He’s unfortunate, but he was never right for her. Even when she did Mago a favor to bring him to afterlife, he extended his hand asking to crossover together — just delusional to the very end.
greenfields
August 25, 2019 at 8:55 PM
*clap clap*
CHARLIE
August 25, 2019 at 11:53 PM
100% agreed. and got a lily too (but why?)
sph_7
August 25, 2019 at 10:54 AM
#HDL Give
himme a break already. My eyes are swollen 😩sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 5:02 PM
#HDL 13 post-sub review…
sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 5:04 PM
Episode 13:
What?!!! Now sleepover after that kiss?
Writernim…🔪 (jk)
The scene in Chan Sung’s room was really sweet, and informative. Man Wol gives Chan Sung the specs of crossing over. On a bridge that takes 49 living days to cross, souls lose their memories bit by bit. Here I see a silver lining for Man Wol’s next life to keep some significant memories of Chan Sung. Chan Sung is really a pro at wooing Man Wol. He’s apparently doing it to make her feel as happy as their time permits, and not to get laid or something.
Poor Ms. Choi, her husband’s family is scum and deserves to die off. Even after many generations they wanted to hurt her daughter. Removing someone’s grave is a huge deal. Asian believe it hurts the deceased for many lives ahead. Ms. Choi’s rage was understandable.
Chan Sung being the best therapist he is finally wears the tiger (leopard) suit to give Ms. Choi a good giggle. I love how Man Wol proudly looks at him cheering up Ms.Choi, like you can tell she’s thinking “that man belongs to me”. She finally breaks it to scholar Kim that she can’t stop the tree from blooming because she loves CS too much, and she’s enjoying it.
Again Man Wol’s teasing backfires. She said she’ll strip CS naked to put on that tiger suit again. He’s like, do it if you can handle it. I know MW is supposed to be 1300 years old but she’s never been in a sexual relationship so I can accept the writers making her act immature in this topic. Plus IU did that expression so well. Cutest looking MW ever.
Mago 5 is introduced as the god of fortune $$. Man Wol shamelessly tells her to come to the hotel often.🤣 She tells CS to take care of the hotel’s first guest, i.e. Chung Myeong.
I almost forgot Man Wol didn’t know Yoong Soo and Mira are dating. This shocked her a great deal, that the deities would play such a sick joke on enemies. I believe this feeling will come into play next episode when she starts (falsely) believing Chan Sung is Chung Myeong’s reincarnation.
First time we actually see Man Wol teleporting. Why didn’t she do it last time when Chan Sung was missing? I guess I’ll have to take it that she needs destination coordinates but she can’t sense where people are.
sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 5:04 PM
Man Wol finally tells Chan Sung how she killed Chung Myeong. I get that CM is a good guy and he loves her. I still don’t like him very much mostly because he keeps sending Man Wol mixed signals, from their acquaintance until his death and even until 1300 years after when he possesses Chan Sung. Not his conscious fault but Man Wol is just really unlucky to have ever met him.
My interpretation of Yeon Wol’s words is: Live as the traitor of Man Wol so she can live on. It’s the concept like putting a rival fishes side by side to stimulate their survival will. He tried to do it, but it seems like at his last minute he changed his mind and wants her to know he loves her. He could have stood still and let her kill him the moment he walked in, but he fought her, vigorously. After she slits his back, he starts rambling what seems to be him feeling guilty for Yeon Woo’s death. If he felt guilty, he could have committed suicide with his own sword, but no, he walks into her sword. Then he rambles more about seeing her as his beautiful bride on their wedding night and he being the eternal full moon that will look over her (no wonder she hates the damn moon). 😒
Really? Yeon Woo gave you one job! If Man Wol killed him by her own hands, she would have at least satisfied some rage through vengeance. If her heart weakened and decided to let him live, it’s still her choice to let go or regret. Chung Myeong’s assisted suicide and awfully delivered last minute confession left the poor girl in utter confusion that turned into a raging massacre. And worse is the killing did fix her confusion and waiting for the answer has become a curse.
Yes, Chung Myeong waited 1300 years near the tree. Poor soul. I should sympathize but I’m having trouble because he seems to need acknowledgment for his love and it just doesn’t seem like genuinely sacrificing for Man Wol.
Chan Sung walks into the tunnel chasing a living boy (damn you preview red herrings). He walks in as himself and walks out as Chung Myeong. Now I know why they needed an actor like Yeo Jin Goo and casted him while he was filming Crowned Clown. Acting multiple personalities is really his thing (next to dying). Earlier we had a small glimpses of him playing Hyun Jung, now as Chung Myeong. He really did walk out like a whole different person. IU was also amazing as she shifted from worried to afraid, instantly realizing Chan Sung’s gentle pats on the back was replaced by cupping on the back of her head. Now we know why the hugs and kiss scene made us pay attention to Chan Sung’s hand.
The previews of episode 14 seems like Man Wol mistook this feeling as Chan Sung being Chung Myeong’s reincarnation. This misunderstanding is potentially deadly. Seems like she will help the serial killer level up to have the ability to kill Chan Sung. 😥 Hopefully she’ll snap out of it soon enough to save him and finish off the serial killer.
FlyingTool
August 24, 2019 at 6:52 PM
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greenfields
August 24, 2019 at 9:06 PM
I don’t think Man Wol will think Chan Sung is Chung Myung reincarnated. She always knows he’s not + according to the rules of this world, reincarnated people return with the same body/face. So when she asked him “why are you” at the end, she already knows that CM has possessed CS’s body.
Also it looks to my like CM did indeed betray MW’s tribe, but perhaps bargained for her life because he fell in love with her though he should not have. :/ They were a gang of thieves right? Killing travellers and stealing their possessions – he did have a duty to do when he approached them. He carried through with it, is what I’m speculating. 🤔 Or maybe he tried to let them go but in that last scene when he wants to give MW that hair pin, the Princess had him followed. So it was an unintentional betrayal.
greenfields
August 24, 2019 at 9:06 PM
Already knows*
greenfields
August 24, 2019 at 9:06 PM
Who are you*
What is wrong with my phone.
sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 9:49 PM
She will think that…
Translation of episode 14 official synopsis: (spoilers of course)
https://twitter.com/iuteamstarcandy/status/1165272888770883584
sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 9:52 PM
Man Wol never thought that Chan Sung is CM because she never felt his presence in him. That just changed because of the possession. Even if CM leaves CS’s body, she will keep double guessing her feelings.
sph_7
August 24, 2019 at 10:27 PM
Man Wol’s gang weren’t just thieves (stealing from anyone rich), they’re rebels that constantly clash with the government (because their country was defeated and taken over by the ruling government).
They did not show the whole truth yet, but I believe he didn’t lead the Princess to capture them. It just happened but he was not loyal to the bandits and just let them get caught. Listening to Yeon Woo, he played the traitor so Man Wol would believe he lead the roundup for merit, so she will stay alive to kill him. He probably thought if she lives, he can explain it later. However death of everyone else and Man Wol being credited to aiding the operation made her too mad to listen. He committed suicide before he gave her the whole truth. Which would be fine if he didn’t say anything at all. What I hated was the supposedly romantic confession and promise that he made before dying. He didn’t want to be a traitor in her eyes. He wanted to redeem himself in he last moment. I also think he stayed around 1300 years not for taking care of Man Wol, but for a chance to redeem himself.