Daily Dose of Sunshine E10. Aigoo! Here I go again with an eccentric crush, this time for Gong Min Jung. Her many fantastic supporting roles have accumulated to win my heart.
Daily Dose of Sunshine E2. @radily is right, this show is the Real Deal. I see a combo of Hospital Playlist and It’s Ok Not to Be Ok. Also: who is this cameo? Suzy?
Castaway Diva E3. Oftentimes my eccentricity inexplicably draws me to the shining talent of a rising star – even someone in a supporting role. This time, it is Moon Woo-jin.
Strong Girl Nam-soon E8. Ah, such magical ghostly beauty! Just what I needed to drive lingering images of Suzy from my brain. What a Halloween treat! 🎃
🎃 Happy Halloween 🎃 from your friendly ghost. Yes, my bluish-purple eye is still here, watching and learning, from beneath my new Eunuch in drag attire. 😉
Some beanies (myself included) really liked seeing the band Nerd Connection in E8 of Doona. I finally found a video of “Hollywood Movie Star”, the song they performed.
Castaway Diva E1. I was hoping this guy waiting for Mok-ha at the station was wearing a military uniform, but upon closer study it appears to be a professional work uniform. 😞
Oh. I thought it was military uniform too.
I don’t expect them to be accurate but I assume they wanted to say he finished his mandatory military service.
Yes, I thought the same thing. It still could be a military uniform, but the 4 buttons on the sleeves lead me to believe otherwise. I hope I am wrong, but it probably doesn’t matter for the story. I just sometimes find myself getting eccentrically anal about this type of detail. 😣
I also thought it was Korean Navy, but didn’t we see Bo-gul get seasick on the ride to the island? It would seem odd for him to have served in the navy and suffer from seasickness.
No, it’s Woo-tak who gets seasick – Bo-geol is the one who regularly volunteers for the island clean-ups and voluntold his brother to come along. And it’s Ki-ho, who for the moment we are assuming is now Bo-geol, who waited at the train station.
People who tend to get seasick can and do still serve in the US Navy – I don’t know about S. Korea.
*Woo-hak. It always takes me some time to get used to a new set of names, for both actors and characters. Woo-tak was Jung Hae-in’s SML character in While You Were Sleeping from the same PD.
@mayhemf@Elinor@Seeker here is a thought: Bo-gul is really Ki-ho, but he had to change his name when he eventually ran off to live with his mother’s family in Seoul. He had to change this name to elude his abusive, ex-cop father – who he knows is trying to hunt him down. He wants to reveal his identity to Mok-ha, but cannot, because he knows it could eventually lead to his father finding him. This is my Halloween-enhanced ghostly prophesy (but don’t put alot of stock in it!!) 😜
@GhostofTim It’s an entire shoal of red herrings. There are lots of fishy things going on here, not least of which is the repeated use of fish as something other than food. On the land side, that deodeok wine is a real thing! 😖 I wonder if it’s going to be a continuing metaphor for Ran-joo or if that was a one-time (PPL?) cameo.
I do love this stage of a drama, when there are far more clues than answers and we’re madly scrambling to figure out what’s significant, and it’s being done well here.
@GhostofTim I agree you’ve got hold of the right end of the stick with that theory (to the extent that a ghostly hand can grasp anything). Do your prophetic powers always increase at this haunted time of year? Can you take advantage of them to make a few won in the stock market?
Bo-geol as Ki-ho has definitely more merit because “drama logic”. Also as you rightly said in order to hide from his father he is afraid to even give a hint to Mok-ha.
As he said earlier, be so successful that no one can touch you. I have a feeling that we will get more clues and he may hint or Mok-ha may find out when she interacts with him some more.
It would be highly improbable for Woo-hak to be Ki-ho. I put down her “you have the same vibe as Ki-ho” comment to be how brothers give similar vibes.
That look on Bo-geol face in the epilogue when Woo-hak said he would do for Mok-ha what Ki-ho would do was quite telling.
Why is no one one comparing the writing of Ki-ho on that note with the Kang brothers. Surely, as a reporter first thing Woo-hak would do is to compare his or his brother’s writing. Maybe it will be revealed later.
Sold. I nomu nomu chuae your theory.
Please allow me to add my two penny and let us go down this rabbit hole:
– Woo-hak is actually Ki-ho… but amnesia.
– Bo-geol is helping to secretly look for Mok-ha by volunteering to clean islands.
– Woo-hak falls for Mok-ha but misunderstands that Bo-geol is Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Bo-geol falls for Mok-ha but feels guilty because he is not the real Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Mok-ha becomes a famous singer and lives happily ever after with wait for it Ran-joo because she is her mother or sister!!
@seeker I delete my comment just previous to this one because it wasn’t what I wanted to say. First, to your very interesting speculation of: – Woo-hak is actually Ki-ho… but amnesia.
– Bo-geol is helping to secretly look for Mok-ha by volunteering to clean islands.
– Woo-hak falls for Mok-ha but misunderstands that Bo-geol is Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Bo-geol falls for Mok-ha but feels guilty because he is not the real Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Mok-ha becomes a famous singer and lives happily ever after with wait for it Ran-joo because she is her mother or sister!!
I think (as was suggested by some others) we are probably over-complicating this plot, but nevertheless I really like your scenario here. It explains the clues we have seen and feels right for this kind of show. I just hope if this is the direction we are headed, we do see “respectful withdrawals” and not Trucks/Boats of Doom.
I never expected this simple post about a possible military uniform to lead down such a Rabbit Hole!
I think it’s pretty clear that Woo-hak can’t be Ki-ho if he really lost his memories before high school, because why would he keep going to the spot Mok-ha was supposed to meet Ran-joo even as an adult if he didn’t remember!
@mindy this is great analysis, and is most likely a solid clue. However, let this ghost play Devil’s Advocate for a minute. It’s possible that we see two different men going to the station to look for her. It is Woo-hak who goes up until the time of his injury, then we see Bo-gul taking his place. Why? Well, Woo-hak has confided to Bo-gul of the need to periodically look for Mok-ha at the station, and after his injury Bo-gul feels obligated to help his (foster) brother continue the search.
Your explanation does make more sense, but we are discussing a kdrama…
@mindy@Seeker@Elinor@mayhemf Mindy, I know, right? It’s a mess. I was just prophesizing to you guys that “Bo-gul is really Ki-ho” and then you triggered something that led me to the thought “What if Woo-hak really is Ki-ho, but he told Bo-gul the whole backstory, and Bo-gul has been secretly helping look for Mok-ha after Woo-hak lost his memory?”
Moral of story: don’t buy stocks based on what a ghost shares on the internet! >😄
LOL, Tim.. I don’t know how to react to the beanie theories and analysis. I honestly don’t think the writer wrote this to be so intelligent. Most of me thinks that beanies are over thinking and over analysing things that the writer themselves might not have thought about ; )
Don’t get me wrong, it’s fun to read all this. But, I am just going to go with the flow.
Castaway Diva E1. The superb acting of 14-year-old Moon Woo-jin is stuck my brain. I really, really hope we see more of him via flashbacks in the remaining episodes. 🤞
These young actors are so good you will forget about Park Eun-bin, but her appearance at the end of E1 is like icing on the cake. If this writing and acting holds up, we will have a fantastic series.
The way PEB was introduced, the expressions were so 👌 that I forgot to question where did all the colorful umbrellas came from.
When she spoke her first words I literally caught my breath.
I live near a coast and can attest that there is an incredible amount of flotsom that often washes ashore, and a surprising amount of it can be reused.
It was so triggering for me, I was considering dropping it, luckily they “grew up” fast.
Just hope we don’t have flashbacks of absuse of these two cuties peppered throughout the drama.
Eventually we’re going to find out what happened to Ki-ho too, and I’m really worried how upsetting that’s going to be. This isn’t good folks…I don’t know that I’m going to be able to watch a show where I’m worried all the time that they’ll drop incredible trauma on us.
Eccentric ghosts do silly things at Halloween (like sing bad karaoke). I tried an old song with lyrics that make me think of a Won-jun singing to Doona.
Mine is playing Mario Cart Party. I am a placeholder, the fourth player who is asked to join the other three good gamers in a foursome competition. I feel included, that’s all I need! It’s not always about winning 😉 And it’s fun even if I never improve much.
That scene abruptly cuts to Won-jun waking up in bed. Was it just his dream? If so, is he able to dream of future events? Notice he is wearing the same clothes as in the last scene, in Japan.
Future events? How can we verify that? Here is how: I found a Reddit thread discussing this show, and user Turbulent_Culture679 shares the following: “The opening scene of ep 9 at the “flower park” is at Oishi Park near Mt Fuji in Japan. You can see the distinctive pink bushes and the base of Mt Fuji in the background.”
So think about it. The last scene of E9 shows us Doona and Won-jun are both in Japan, but not together. We do see Doona turn for a moment as if she recognizes him. With the foggy, surreal, and non-linear editing we see throughout E9, is it too much of a stretch to believe that first scene actually happens later, and the two are deciding to rekindle their relationship? Won-jun arrives at Oishi Park wearing the same clothes we saw him in at the shopping mall. He gives Doona a half smile. I, for one, will embrace this interpretation of the ending.
Gosh I wish the editing were better near the end of this drama.
I’m gonna offer that you can have your wish, Tim!!
However (하지만), I have a different preferred ending–the glory of an open ending!! I sort of hope that these two got what they needed out of their time together and that now they can both move on instead of getting stuck in old habits.
I liked it when she said (ambivalently), “I don’t need you anymore,” and he shouted back, “I KNOW.” That was the perfect release of their relationship’s tension for me. She admits that she was using him, he admits that he knew that and didn’t mind it (but does now)…but to get out of this bind, either SHE is going to need to accept him on his own terms (as his own person) now–which she can’t because, ahem, IDOL–or they need to move on from what they had.
I agree your preferred ending seems to be the most logical one. I am actually ok with that ending of them going their separate ways, each with the closure they needed. I’m ok because the writers did a good job of explaining that to us. Nevertheless, my eccentric nature inexplicably pulls me toward the other possible ending…
I’m making a few gifs because I can’t help myself–which led me back to Episode 1 outro.
Her voiceover, which foreshadows Won-jun’s “texting to no one” correspondence from the end of their time together, is quite touching in retrospect! It also could support either of our claims 🙂
I think the scene where she breaks down in her apartment after meeting him contradicts her claim that because she is surrounded by people so she doesn’t need him anymore. It’s an emotional statement in the heat of the moment and Won-jun counters that with his emotional plea to leave him in peace.
Mmm. Interesting. I do think she cries in her apartment before that interaction–but I take your point. I suppose I’m making a slightly different claim. I think that there’s a difference between “needing” him–like in a co-dependent support sort of way which is how it clearly started (and what I think she’s saying when she says she doesn’t need anymore, and he agrees)–and wanting to be with him as two independent agents (actual love), which I do agree she eventually wants (hence the tears you rightly bring up).
BUT, the problem is that she can’t really have that, because “idol.” I definitely don’t want to leave the impression that Doona doesn’t love Won-jun. She does. I don’t think she did when she said those words back in the middle of the show, but I do think she does come to that eventually.
True, the collars are different, but that isn’t enough to invalidate the importance of the Oishi Park scene. Did they really meet in Japan? Or was it just Won-jun’s dream of a possible future?
We may never really know the writer(s) intent, but it does provide a more open ending that can appeal to more viewers.
I don’t know… Why choosing to show this scene at the beginning? People have to remember the exact place? The clothes? Etc when they didn’t speak and there were a lot of things between?
Again, the editing was really bad. It took off a lot of the story, character’s development, etc.
Agreed – the editing was lacking in this last episode.
Here is a hypothetical scenario (just my musings). Stay with me here…Netflix HQ calls the Doona! production team and says something like “we have budget constraints, wrap up this show in 9 episodes”. The production team is forced to comply, yet they are deep into the production of the show, and already have shot much more footage then can be shown in 9 episodes. What do they do? Answer: they try their best to get creative, albeit within their new working parameters. They have to make hard decisions to condense important parts of the story, which includes deleting scenes (some already shot). They look to their editing team for salvation. Can the editors splice together an episode 9 ending that (while short of the original vision) is still appealing to viewers? The editing team does their best to “think outside the box” and comes up with the time fast-forward/out-of-sequence presentation we see in E9. It’s not perfect, but it gets the job done within their production constraints. We, the viewers, are expected to understand the shift in their narrative presentation, and flow with it.
As with all hypotheticals, this is just my speculation.
They had very bad editors. Even if they had to reduce the show, it was a director’s choice to make a clear or not ending. They put this scene after the hotel one and the end is full of hopes. At the beginning, it’s just interrogations.
Bad editing or lazy writers? This show didn’t have an “ending,” rather, it had a “stopping.” The secondary characters all had a reasonable ending to their arcs, but the narrative for the leads was not wrapped up.
It’s bait. Bad dramas will do that sometimes. Good ones too.
If somebody is upset they didn’t not end up together they can imagine that was a sort of prediction dream if they are not, they can just ignore it.
“Bait”. That is the term I was trying to think of a few days ago. I probably did swallow this bait to project the ending I wanted. Well, in this case, the bait tastes pretty good (I like sushi) 🙂
Fyi: all the rail road crossing scenes in the intro were filmed in Japan.
The crossing reminded me of Japan and scenes from jdrama when I watched the intro. Looked closely and saw Japanese letters/words in the background. Not sure the location of the railroad crossing had anything to do with plot or it’s just for aesthetic purposes hahaha 🤣
Hi @Qingdao , I am still tracking news about this show, and recently Netflix released some deleted scenes. One deleted scene was the couple kissing in the Oishi Park scene. The director says it was his decision to delete that scene in order to adhere more to the “open ending” concept.
Thanks for following through on this one. So it wasn’t writing or editing but directing, ha!
I’m off to search for deleted scenes (which is another sign of a lack of an ending, not a sign of a bad ending).
Yes, this is the video I watched. Thanks for sharing that link. There may be more videos like this to come.
I am still not convinced it was solely the director’s decision to edit episode 9 and end the show like this, but if he was pressured to do it by Netflix, he is not admitting it.
Doona! E5. It’s doomed. He knows it. I know it. Nevertheless, he decides to live in the moment. Beanies, any single guy would do exactly the same thing, trust me.
Oh hey, @ghostoftim? I hope you don’t mind that I keep responding to your interpretations with my own “contrary” ones (I don’t think of them as “contrary” or “pushback,” at all, for what it’s worth, I just think of them as contrasting alternatives). I’ve been enjoying our back and forth on Doona! but I know that such things aren’t always clear “through the internet.” I think many folks dismissed this drama—but neither of us did and I appreciate the chance to talk about it.
Thank you for the nice words. I am comfortable. I did recently decide to modify my moniker here, because I realized my participation level was increasing. I felt a little more transparency would help my interactions.
I decided to come back here to DB because I missed the participation, and a platform to share my (oftentimes) whacky ideas and feelings about dramas. I am aware my viewpoints will sometimes stir up discussion. @attiton you have been understanding, thought-provoking, and sweet. I enjoy reading your comments, whether directed to me or other Beanies.
Well, thanks right back to you, Tim, for your kind words! You aren’t the only one to stir up discussion (a trait I appreciate). I happen to know that I piss off as many people as I amuse here on DB, and so I sometimes like to check-in when the conversation has been particularly productive from my POV! 😁
I just finished Turn to Me Mukai-kun (Hulu & Netflix). This Jdrama is pure gold, with one of the best scripts I’ve ever seen. Kdrama writers should learn from this! Highly recommended!
Oh this is good to read, it keeps popping up for me but I’m in the midst of binging Hidden Love and so I’ll watch this one next. It looks really cute!
Thanks for saying it’s as cute as it looks!
Your time will not be wasted, it has great acting coupled with an amazing script that intriguingly and intelligently pulls us into the lives of these characters.
Turn to me Mukai-kun E2. Netflix just released this jdrama. I see excellent direction, editing, and a very quirky and charming script (notice the ML sees himself as a clown with girls).
@owl22 I am now up to episode 4 and it’s really good. The writing is just fantastic – very thought-provoking about relationships. @johnb , I think you would like this show!
This came up for me too so I dived in and you’re right to bring it to the beanies attention it is an interesting take on relationships.
I like we are seeing both sides of the male lead and the ‘confident’ female lead (?) when she is in the restaurant/bar giving her perspective and then we see she is just as susceptible as the male lead when she is more vulnerable around her colleague at work.
I noticed it is directed by Lee Jung-Hyo, so it will be interesting (and perhaps heart-breaking) to see if it has an ending similar to Crash Landing on You.
I honestly don’t know what to make of this drama based on the (somewhat disturbing and mysterious) trailers. The FL is off-putting, and there’s a foreboding, obsessive vibe that makes me uncomfortable. But I hope it’s good, too!
Here is the japchae I had at a restaurant recently. Do you see the problem? I think it is visible without tasting. Alas, I was hoping for the Reply 1994 or True Beauty version.
Just finished watching Ballerina on Netflix. It’s a rather dark action film, but Jeon Jong-seo is quite entertaining. I never saw Burning, so this is my first time seeing her.
She’s an impressive actress and picking edgy projects. It’s hard to believe Burning was her first acting project. Then so good as Tokyo in Money Heist. Yet to watch Ballerina.
I am quite annoyed right now. My review of Behind Your Touch posted on the show\’s Discussion tab was deleted. This has happened to me before, with no explanation from DB staff. >:(
@Ghost of Tim: I’m sorry to hear this. Their moderating decisions are disheartening at best and appalling at worst in my experience. For instance, there is a commenter who only posts in the Open Threads every week without fail. They include irrelevant and frankly bizarre things, and often say the most offensive things as well but their posts have not been deleted except once when they expressed horrific and callous views about the invasion of Ukraine, were confronted strongly by a number of beanies and the DB solution was to remove the entire thread. Not to deal with this problematic commenter but to sweep it under the rug.
Why don’t you post it again in this week’s Open Thread?
Based on my experiences here, I have to agree with you about the moderating decisions. If they would just tell me why they deleted some of my reviews, I could understand and choose my words more carefully, but they are silent. All I can think of is that I did type “he11” in that review (using 1 instead of l). I used it in the context “what the he11”. Maybe that is what got it deleted, and maybe they have some bot they run to search and destroy based on these keywords.
Hopefully, it is something benign such as “he11” being singled out without cause but as they never respond to queries, there is no clarity.. Maybe replace those words that might trigger a bot and repost it
I say tag dbstaff on the discussion page and ask them about your review disappearance. It Could be a bug and unintentional Or atleast you will get an explanation.
Good idea, but guess what? For some reason, I am now blocked from leaving a discussion comment on the show. Apparently, after removing my original comment, they have blocked me from re-entering a new one there. Same thing happened to me on the A Time Called You discussion page. I guess this will be the last year I purchase premium subscriber status here. @dbstaff
@ghostoftim Just popping in to defend the team and the hardworking spam filter to let you know that your review wasn’t deleted — we are seeing it in the discussion tab for BYT here: https://www.dramabeans.com/shows/behind-your-touch/#comment-4125066 If you are still having issues feel free to email the hello address and we can take a deeper look.
I believe there is some confusion in how we access the page. Eg, if I search for a show and click on any link and then click discussion tab I see a different page, Which doesn’t have many reviews including Tim’s. But if I click on the link above I see the comment!!
May be the way I come to this page matters?? Or there are two different discussion tabs.
@missvictrix@mayhemf Yes, I am experiencing exactly what Blue described. I do see my review when I click on the link provided by missvictrix, but when I follow the steps Blue mentioned (which is how most people will check out a show), the older comments are not appearing (the last comment I see is by Cay_sbtgoG). So the problem appears to be not one of removal but rather not displaying the full list of comments for a show. Hopefully the staff can fix this.
I apologize for thinking my review comments were being removed, but honestly if they don’t appear for people to read, it’s almost as bad.
@ghostoftim@mayhemf Thank you both for this thread — it helped us realize there is a bug going on with how the Discussion tab gets fed. I won’t bore you with the technicalities but yes, all the comments/reviews are not turning up properly in the Discussion tab. We are on it! Please email the inbox if you find another case where this is happening, as it might help them figure out what’s up and fix it faster. And since we’re all on this old, heavy, beloved, worn out site together, we appreciate all the grace we can get from the Beanies 🙂
@missvictrix thank you for the explanation. I would be happy to help you test the fix, so feel free to tag me in a post (or email me) if you would like my testing assistance.
Can you share it as a post on your own Fan Wall for us to read? I know it doesn’t solve the issue. But this could be a great way if this keeps happening to you.
Update: thank you @db-staff for adding the new “Show More Discussions” link after scrolling to the bottom of a Drama’s Discussion comments. It is working nicely to “unhide” the older comments, like many of mine.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
December 24, 2023 at 12:57 PM
Welcome to Samdal-ri E7. “That scene” when your heart breaks for the 2nd male lead…. (and yes, your friendly ghost is still here haunting you…)
🌸 Seeker 🌸
December 24, 2023 at 8:49 PM
Hello Ghostly Chingu! 👋
Wish you Merry Christmas full of ghostly treats you enjoy!! 🎄 ☃️ 💕
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
November 6, 2023 at 6:16 PM
Daily Dose of Sunshine E10. Aigoo! Here I go again with an eccentric crush, this time for Gong Min Jung. Her many fantastic supporting roles have accumulated to win my heart.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
November 5, 2023 at 4:02 PM
Daily Dose of Sunshine E2. @radily is right, this show is the Real Deal. I see a combo of Hospital Playlist and It’s Ok Not to Be Ok. Also: who is this cameo? Suzy?
Lostpanda is celebrating My Ajusshi 💔
November 5, 2023 at 5:11 PM
Thanks for your take on this show. I’m going to give it another shot.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
November 4, 2023 at 2:30 PM
Castaway Diva E3. Oftentimes my eccentricity inexplicably draws me to the shining talent of a rising star – even someone in a supporting role. This time, it is Moon Woo-jin.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 31, 2023 at 6:30 PM
Strong Girl Nam-soon E8. Ah, such magical ghostly beauty! Just what I needed to drive lingering images of Suzy from my brain. What a Halloween treat! 🎃
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 31, 2023 at 10:52 AM
🎃 Happy Halloween 🎃 from your friendly ghost. Yes, my bluish-purple eye is still here, watching and learning, from beneath my new Eunuch in drag attire. 😉
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
October 31, 2023 at 10:53 AM
Congratulations on the ghostly wardrobe upgrade!!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 31, 2023 at 12:03 PM
🥳 🎊 👏👏
Perfect day for an upgrade. Congratulations.
Dorotka
October 31, 2023 at 12:23 PM
🥳🎊👻🎊🥳
Seon-ha
October 31, 2023 at 1:00 PM
축하해요, Ghostly Tim! How appropriately timed, indeed!!!
bbstl 🧹
October 31, 2023 at 7:58 PM
Congratulations! 🎈🎉🎈
Cecee is done DramaQueening
November 1, 2023 at 8:03 AM
a ghostly eunuch!!! How exciting!
Congrats!!!
korfan
November 2, 2023 at 1:14 AM
Congratulations!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 31, 2023 at 7:59 AM
Some beanies (myself included) really liked seeing the band Nerd Connection in E8 of Doona. I finally found a video of “Hollywood Movie Star”, the song they performed.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 9:03 AM
Castaway Diva E1. I was hoping this guy waiting for Mok-ha at the station was wearing a military uniform, but upon closer study it appears to be a professional work uniform. 😞
Blue (@mayhemf)
October 30, 2023 at 9:05 AM
Oh. I thought it was military uniform too.
I don’t expect them to be accurate but I assume they wanted to say he finished his mandatory military service.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 9:16 AM
Yes, I thought the same thing. It still could be a military uniform, but the 4 buttons on the sleeves lead me to believe otherwise. I hope I am wrong, but it probably doesn’t matter for the story. I just sometimes find myself getting eccentrically anal about this type of detail. 😣
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 9:19 AM
The uniform read “Navy Band” to me.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 9:41 AM
I also thought it was Korean Navy, but didn’t we see Bo-gul get seasick on the ride to the island? It would seem odd for him to have served in the navy and suffer from seasickness.
Blue (@mayhemf)
October 30, 2023 at 9:44 AM
Wasn’t Woo-Hak the one who was sea sick? Which made logical sense to me that he isn;t Ki Ho
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 9:48 AM
No, it’s Woo-tak who gets seasick – Bo-geol is the one who regularly volunteers for the island clean-ups and voluntold his brother to come along. And it’s Ki-ho, who for the moment we are assuming is now Bo-geol, who waited at the train station.
People who tend to get seasick can and do still serve in the US Navy – I don’t know about S. Korea.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 9:51 AM
*Woo-hak. It always takes me some time to get used to a new set of names, for both actors and characters. Woo-tak was Jung Hae-in’s SML character in While You Were Sleeping from the same PD.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 10:10 AM
@mayhemf @Elinor you are correct, I got the character names switched.
We are being thrown lots of bait, but how much of it are real clues? Too little info to connect the dots (yet), but it’s fun to speculate.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 10:26 AM
@mayhemf @Elinor @Seeker here is a thought: Bo-gul is really Ki-ho, but he had to change his name when he eventually ran off to live with his mother’s family in Seoul. He had to change this name to elude his abusive, ex-cop father – who he knows is trying to hunt him down. He wants to reveal his identity to Mok-ha, but cannot, because he knows it could eventually lead to his father finding him. This is my Halloween-enhanced ghostly prophesy (but don’t put alot of stock in it!!) 😜
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 10:26 AM
@GhostofTim It’s an entire shoal of red herrings. There are lots of fishy things going on here, not least of which is the repeated use of fish as something other than food. On the land side, that deodeok wine is a real thing! 😖 I wonder if it’s going to be a continuing metaphor for Ran-joo or if that was a one-time (PPL?) cameo.
I do love this stage of a drama, when there are far more clues than answers and we’re madly scrambling to figure out what’s significant, and it’s being done well here.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 10:36 AM
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 30, 2023 at 10:38 AM
@GhostofTim I agree you’ve got hold of the right end of the stick with that theory (to the extent that a ghostly hand can grasp anything). Do your prophetic powers always increase at this haunted time of year? Can you take advantage of them to make a few won in the stock market?
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 30, 2023 at 10:52 AM
Bo-geol as Ki-ho has definitely more merit because “drama logic”. Also as you rightly said in order to hide from his father he is afraid to even give a hint to Mok-ha.
As he said earlier, be so successful that no one can touch you. I have a feeling that we will get more clues and he may hint or Mok-ha may find out when she interacts with him some more.
It would be highly improbable for Woo-hak to be Ki-ho. I put down her “you have the same vibe as Ki-ho” comment to be how brothers give similar vibes.
That look on Bo-geol face in the epilogue when Woo-hak said he would do for Mok-ha what Ki-ho would do was quite telling.
Why is no one one comparing the writing of Ki-ho on that note with the Kang brothers. Surely, as a reporter first thing Woo-hak would do is to compare his or his brother’s writing. Maybe it will be revealed later.
For now Bo-geol as Ki-ho seems more plausible.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 30, 2023 at 12:42 PM
@GhostofTim
Sold. I nomu nomu chuae your theory.
Please allow me to add my two penny and let us go down this rabbit hole:
– Woo-hak is actually Ki-ho… but amnesia.
– Bo-geol is helping to secretly look for Mok-ha by volunteering to clean islands.
– Woo-hak falls for Mok-ha but misunderstands that Bo-geol is Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Bo-geol falls for Mok-ha but feels guilty because he is not the real Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Mok-ha becomes a famous singer and lives happily ever after with wait for it Ran-joo because she is her mother or sister!!
Ottoke??
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 2:03 PM
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Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 2:24 PM
@seeker I delete my comment just previous to this one because it wasn’t what I wanted to say. First, to your very interesting speculation of:
– Woo-hak is actually Ki-ho… but amnesia.
– Bo-geol is helping to secretly look for Mok-ha by volunteering to clean islands.
– Woo-hak falls for Mok-ha but misunderstands that Bo-geol is Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Bo-geol falls for Mok-ha but feels guilty because he is not the real Ki-ho and respectfully withdraws.
– Mok-ha becomes a famous singer and lives happily ever after with wait for it Ran-joo because she is her mother or sister!!
I think (as was suggested by some others) we are probably over-complicating this plot, but nevertheless I really like your scenario here. It explains the clues we have seen and feels right for this kind of show. I just hope if this is the direction we are headed, we do see “respectful withdrawals” and not Trucks/Boats of Doom.
I never expected this simple post about a possible military uniform to lead down such a Rabbit Hole!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 30, 2023 at 2:38 PM
@GhostofTim
Hahaha. Moral of the story – ask Beanies for theories at your own peril. 🚩 🚫 🐂
No worries, its all good. See dramas you like, chat about what you want to discuss and just have FUN!
mindy
October 30, 2023 at 10:32 AM
I think it’s pretty clear that Woo-hak can’t be Ki-ho if he really lost his memories before high school, because why would he keep going to the spot Mok-ha was supposed to meet Ran-joo even as an adult if he didn’t remember!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 10:41 AM
@mindy this is great analysis, and is most likely a solid clue. However, let this ghost play Devil’s Advocate for a minute. It’s possible that we see two different men going to the station to look for her. It is Woo-hak who goes up until the time of his injury, then we see Bo-gul taking his place. Why? Well, Woo-hak has confided to Bo-gul of the need to periodically look for Mok-ha at the station, and after his injury Bo-gul feels obligated to help his (foster) brother continue the search.
Your explanation does make more sense, but we are discussing a kdrama…
mindy
October 30, 2023 at 10:43 AM
@ghostoftim Oh god.
I’m just gonna sit back and let the drama do its thing 😭
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 10:52 AM
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Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 30, 2023 at 10:54 AM
@mindy @Seeker @Elinor @mayhemf Mindy, I know, right? It’s a mess. I was just prophesizing to you guys that “Bo-gul is really Ki-ho” and then you triggered something that led me to the thought “What if Woo-hak really is Ki-ho, but he told Bo-gul the whole backstory, and Bo-gul has been secretly helping look for Mok-ha after Woo-hak lost his memory?”
Moral of story: don’t buy stocks based on what a ghost shares on the internet! >😄
Blue (@mayhemf)
October 30, 2023 at 11:10 AM
LOL, Tim.. I don’t know how to react to the beanie theories and analysis. I honestly don’t think the writer wrote this to be so intelligent. Most of me thinks that beanies are over thinking and over analysing things that the writer themselves might not have thought about ; )
Don’t get me wrong, it’s fun to read all this. But, I am just going to go with the flow.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM
Castaway Diva E1. The superb acting of 14-year-old Moon Woo-jin is stuck my brain. I really, really hope we see more of him via flashbacks in the remaining episodes. 🤞
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 29, 2023 at 9:01 PM
That would be nice. 👌
Preferably without the cop dad. 😌
Lixie
October 30, 2023 at 5:39 AM
Yes, he was great. He reminds me of a young Jang Geun Seuk.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 28, 2023 at 7:53 PM
Castaway Diva E1. I cannot remember an episode 1 that ripped me open this much with its beauty and horror. This ghost needed tissues, you may too.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 28, 2023 at 7:57 PM
These young actors are so good you will forget about Park Eun-bin, but her appearance at the end of E1 is like icing on the cake. If this writing and acting holds up, we will have a fantastic series.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 28, 2023 at 8:39 PM
The way PEB was introduced, the expressions were so 👌 that I forgot to question where did all the colorful umbrellas came from.
When she spoke her first words I literally caught my breath.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 28, 2023 at 8:43 PM
I live near a coast and can attest that there is an incredible amount of flotsom that often washes ashore, and a surprising amount of it can be reused.
OhSoEnthusiastic
October 28, 2023 at 9:36 PM
First eps never make me cry. This one did.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 28, 2023 at 10:08 PM
Their shared stories of abuse was heartbreaking and upsetting. Middle school years under such duress is unforgivable.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 28, 2023 at 11:55 PM
It was so triggering for me, I was considering dropping it, luckily they “grew up” fast.
Just hope we don’t have flashbacks of absuse of these two cuties peppered throughout the drama.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 29, 2023 at 1:00 AM
I also had to not think too hard about how she dealt with her father’s washed up body . . .
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 29, 2023 at 6:01 AM
@owl22 I am bracing myself for a possible flash-back burial scene.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 29, 2023 at 8:09 AM
Yes, there must be a memorial site then.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 29, 2023 at 1:39 PM
Better to go the Dexter way – buried at sea.
Seon-ha
October 29, 2023 at 8:44 AM
Eventually we’re going to find out what happened to Ki-ho too, and I’m really worried how upsetting that’s going to be. This isn’t good folks…I don’t know that I’m going to be able to watch a show where I’m worried all the time that they’ll drop incredible trauma on us.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 29, 2023 at 8:52 AM
We can take this journey one step at a time. 🤝
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 29, 2023 at 1:40 PM
Yes … and with the support of fellow Beanies.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 29, 2023 at 8:54 AM
Remember the drone!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 26, 2023 at 8:34 PM
Eccentric ghosts do silly things at Halloween (like sing bad karaoke). I tried an old song with lyrics that make me think of a Won-jun singing to Doona.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 26, 2023 at 8:37 PM
Here is the original artist (Walter Egan) performing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RamSFoo0jw
owl 🦉 🫰
October 27, 2023 at 7:52 PM
Well, um, interesting 👻 of Tim …
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 27, 2023 at 8:00 PM
Did you ever have a hobby that you participate in even when you realize that you have no real skill in it? Ghosts are the same. 😊
owl 🦉 🫰
October 27, 2023 at 8:07 PM
Mine is playing Mario Cart Party. I am a placeholder, the fourth player who is asked to join the other three good gamers in a foursome competition. I feel included, that’s all I need! It’s not always about winning 😉 And it’s fun even if I never improve much.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 8:19 AM
Doona! E9. Is this scene at the start of E9 a big clue? Read my comments below and decide for yourself (spoiler alert).
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 8:21 AM
That scene abruptly cuts to Won-jun waking up in bed. Was it just his dream? If so, is he able to dream of future events? Notice he is wearing the same clothes as in the last scene, in Japan.
Future events? How can we verify that? Here is how: I found a Reddit thread discussing this show, and user Turbulent_Culture679 shares the following: “The opening scene of ep 9 at the “flower park” is at Oishi Park near Mt Fuji in Japan. You can see the distinctive pink bushes and the base of Mt Fuji in the background.”
If you are interested, here is the full thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/KDRAMA/comments/17bzifi/comment/k5xegqt/
So think about it. The last scene of E9 shows us Doona and Won-jun are both in Japan, but not together. We do see Doona turn for a moment as if she recognizes him. With the foggy, surreal, and non-linear editing we see throughout E9, is it too much of a stretch to believe that first scene actually happens later, and the two are deciding to rekindle their relationship? Won-jun arrives at Oishi Park wearing the same clothes we saw him in at the shopping mall. He gives Doona a half smile. I, for one, will embrace this interpretation of the ending.
Seon-ha
October 23, 2023 at 10:28 AM
Gosh I wish the editing were better near the end of this drama.
I’m gonna offer that you can have your wish, Tim!!
However (하지만), I have a different preferred ending–the glory of an open ending!! I sort of hope that these two got what they needed out of their time together and that now they can both move on instead of getting stuck in old habits.
I liked it when she said (ambivalently), “I don’t need you anymore,” and he shouted back, “I KNOW.” That was the perfect release of their relationship’s tension for me. She admits that she was using him, he admits that he knew that and didn’t mind it (but does now)…but to get out of this bind, either SHE is going to need to accept him on his own terms (as his own person) now–which she can’t because, ahem, IDOL–or they need to move on from what they had.
I mean, your way’s fine too, but yeah.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 10:35 AM
I agree your preferred ending seems to be the most logical one. I am actually ok with that ending of them going their separate ways, each with the closure they needed. I’m ok because the writers did a good job of explaining that to us. Nevertheless, my eccentric nature inexplicably pulls me toward the other possible ending…
Seon-ha
October 23, 2023 at 2:06 PM
I’m making a few gifs because I can’t help myself–which led me back to Episode 1 outro.
Her voiceover, which foreshadows Won-jun’s “texting to no one” correspondence from the end of their time together, is quite touching in retrospect! It also could support either of our claims 🙂
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 2:13 PM
Great catch! Thanks for sharing it.
myke22
October 23, 2023 at 1:52 PM
I think the scene where she breaks down in her apartment after meeting him contradicts her claim that because she is surrounded by people so she doesn’t need him anymore. It’s an emotional statement in the heat of the moment and Won-jun counters that with his emotional plea to leave him in peace.
Seon-ha
October 23, 2023 at 2:00 PM
Mmm. Interesting. I do think she cries in her apartment before that interaction–but I take your point. I suppose I’m making a slightly different claim. I think that there’s a difference between “needing” him–like in a co-dependent support sort of way which is how it clearly started (and what I think she’s saying when she says she doesn’t need anymore, and he agrees)–and wanting to be with him as two independent agents (actual love), which I do agree she eventually wants (hence the tears you rightly bring up).
BUT, the problem is that she can’t really have that, because “idol.” I definitely don’t want to leave the impression that Doona doesn’t love Won-jun. She does. I don’t think she did when she said those words back in the middle of the show, but I do think she does come to that eventually.
Kurama
October 23, 2023 at 10:58 AM
I watched it and it’s not the same coat. The collars are different.
So if they wanted to make me understand the scene happened after, the last scene, it missed.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 11:10 AM
True, the collars are different, but that isn’t enough to invalidate the importance of the Oishi Park scene. Did they really meet in Japan? Or was it just Won-jun’s dream of a possible future?
We may never really know the writer(s) intent, but it does provide a more open ending that can appeal to more viewers.
Kurama
October 23, 2023 at 11:27 AM
I don’t know… Why choosing to show this scene at the beginning? People have to remember the exact place? The clothes? Etc when they didn’t speak and there were a lot of things between?
Again, the editing was really bad. It took off a lot of the story, character’s development, etc.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 12:29 PM
Agreed – the editing was lacking in this last episode.
Here is a hypothetical scenario (just my musings). Stay with me here…Netflix HQ calls the Doona! production team and says something like “we have budget constraints, wrap up this show in 9 episodes”. The production team is forced to comply, yet they are deep into the production of the show, and already have shot much more footage then can be shown in 9 episodes. What do they do? Answer: they try their best to get creative, albeit within their new working parameters. They have to make hard decisions to condense important parts of the story, which includes deleting scenes (some already shot). They look to their editing team for salvation. Can the editors splice together an episode 9 ending that (while short of the original vision) is still appealing to viewers? The editing team does their best to “think outside the box” and comes up with the time fast-forward/out-of-sequence presentation we see in E9. It’s not perfect, but it gets the job done within their production constraints. We, the viewers, are expected to understand the shift in their narrative presentation, and flow with it.
As with all hypotheticals, this is just my speculation.
Kurama
October 24, 2023 at 12:49 AM
@GhostofTim
They had very bad editors. Even if they had to reduce the show, it was a director’s choice to make a clear or not ending. They put this scene after the hotel one and the end is full of hopes. At the beginning, it’s just interrogations.
Qingdao: likes scented candles
November 1, 2023 at 7:38 PM
Bad editing or lazy writers? This show didn’t have an “ending,” rather, it had a “stopping.” The secondary characters all had a reasonable ending to their arcs, but the narrative for the leads was not wrapped up.
Lixie
October 24, 2023 at 6:43 AM
It’s bait. Bad dramas will do that sometimes. Good ones too.
If somebody is upset they didn’t not end up together they can imagine that was a sort of prediction dream if they are not, they can just ignore it.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 24, 2023 at 7:47 AM
“Bait”. That is the term I was trying to think of a few days ago. I probably did swallow this bait to project the ending I wanted. Well, in this case, the bait tastes pretty good (I like sushi) 🙂
Kairoskat 💐
October 23, 2023 at 2:04 PM
Fyi: all the rail road crossing scenes in the intro were filmed in Japan.
The crossing reminded me of Japan and scenes from jdrama when I watched the intro. Looked closely and saw Japanese letters/words in the background. Not sure the location of the railroad crossing had anything to do with plot or it’s just for aesthetic purposes hahaha 🤣
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 23, 2023 at 2:16 PM
Thanks for sharing this. More anecdotal evidence that could point to several things…
Qingdao: likes scented candles
November 1, 2023 at 7:33 PM
Maybe……but it is SO OBSCURE if that is true.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
November 1, 2023 at 7:38 PM
Hi @Qingdao , I am still tracking news about this show, and recently Netflix released some deleted scenes. One deleted scene was the couple kissing in the Oishi Park scene. The director says it was his decision to delete that scene in order to adhere more to the “open ending” concept.
Qingdao: likes scented candles
November 1, 2023 at 7:45 PM
Thanks for following through on this one. So it wasn’t writing or editing but directing, ha!
I’m off to search for deleted scenes (which is another sign of a lack of an ending, not a sign of a bad ending).
Qingdao: likes scented candles
November 1, 2023 at 7:53 PM
Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rK3eXplkcY
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
November 1, 2023 at 8:25 PM
Yes, this is the video I watched. Thanks for sharing that link. There may be more videos like this to come.
I am still not convinced it was solely the director’s decision to edit episode 9 and end the show like this, but if he was pressured to do it by Netflix, he is not admitting it.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 21, 2023 at 1:32 PM
Doona! E5. It’s doomed. He knows it. I know it. Nevertheless, he decides to live in the moment. Beanies, any single guy would do exactly the same thing, trust me.
Lixie
October 21, 2023 at 3:51 PM
This hair. I keep thinking about it, it’s so distracting. Crazy people.
Seon-ha
October 24, 2023 at 5:51 AM
Oh hey, @ghostoftim? I hope you don’t mind that I keep responding to your interpretations with my own “contrary” ones (I don’t think of them as “contrary” or “pushback,” at all, for what it’s worth, I just think of them as contrasting alternatives). I’ve been enjoying our back and forth on Doona! but I know that such things aren’t always clear “through the internet.” I think many folks dismissed this drama—but neither of us did and I appreciate the chance to talk about it.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 24, 2023 at 7:36 AM
Thank you for the nice words. I am comfortable. I did recently decide to modify my moniker here, because I realized my participation level was increasing. I felt a little more transparency would help my interactions.
I decided to come back here to DB because I missed the participation, and a platform to share my (oftentimes) whacky ideas and feelings about dramas. I am aware my viewpoints will sometimes stir up discussion. @attiton you have been understanding, thought-provoking, and sweet. I enjoy reading your comments, whether directed to me or other Beanies.
Seon-ha
October 24, 2023 at 7:48 AM
Well, thanks right back to you, Tim, for your kind words! You aren’t the only one to stir up discussion (a trait I appreciate). I happen to know that I piss off as many people as I amuse here on DB, and so I sometimes like to check-in when the conversation has been particularly productive from my POV! 😁
Qingdao: likes scented candles
November 1, 2023 at 7:32 PM
Thought so! Thanks for putting it out there!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 20, 2023 at 1:57 PM
I just finished Turn to Me Mukai-kun (Hulu & Netflix). This Jdrama is pure gold, with one of the best scripts I’ve ever seen. Kdrama writers should learn from this! Highly recommended!
stpauligurl
October 20, 2023 at 5:42 PM
Oh this is good to read, it keeps popping up for me but I’m in the midst of binging Hidden Love and so I’ll watch this one next. It looks really cute!
Thanks for saying it’s as cute as it looks!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 20, 2023 at 5:47 PM
Your time will not be wasted, it has great acting coupled with an amazing script that intriguingly and intelligently pulls us into the lives of these characters.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 20, 2023 at 6:51 PM
Hilarious too!
owl 🦉 🫰
October 20, 2023 at 6:50 PM
“Climb over my corpse and find happiness for us, brother.” 😂 Such a gem of s drama!
Lixie
October 21, 2023 at 5:59 AM
The first ep was nice! This actor is adorable, I remember him from Cherry Magic. I wasn’t a big fan of the script but it was still interesting.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 6:22 PM
Turn to me Mukai-kun E2. Netflix just released this jdrama. I see excellent direction, editing, and a very quirky and charming script (notice the ML sees himself as a clown with girls).
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 6:27 PM
This show definitely has me hooked, and it should be a nice alternative while I wait for new episodes of Doona!.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 18, 2023 at 7:34 PM
I haven’t watch a jdrama in quite a while, might try this one. (One of my favorites was Date.)
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 8:42 PM
@owl22 I am now up to episode 4 and it’s really good. The writing is just fantastic – very thought-provoking about relationships. @johnb , I think you would like this show!
owl 🦉 🫰
October 18, 2023 at 9:21 PM
“Listen. There’s no personality called ‘girls.'”
And I’m moving right onto ep 2. Thanks for the great tip!
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 18, 2023 at 10:39 PM
I loved that too.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
October 18, 2023 at 10:38 PM
This came up for me too so I dived in and you’re right to bring it to the beanies attention it is an interesting take on relationships.
I like we are seeing both sides of the male lead and the ‘confident’ female lead (?) when she is in the restaurant/bar giving her perspective and then we see she is just as susceptible as the male lead when she is more vulnerable around her colleague at work.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 10:41 PM
I know, right? The dichotomy of her character will be interesting to watch.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 7:55 AM
I am really looking forward to Doona!. I hope I am not disappointed.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 7:59 AM
I noticed it is directed by Lee Jung-Hyo, so it will be interesting (and perhaps heart-breaking) to see if it has an ending similar to Crash Landing on You.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
October 18, 2023 at 8:45 AM
We will wait for your stamp of approval.
LaurenSophie
October 18, 2023 at 8:52 AM
I honestly don’t know what to make of this drama based on the (somewhat disturbing and mysterious) trailers. The FL is off-putting, and there’s a foreboding, obsessive vibe that makes me uncomfortable. But I hope it’s good, too!
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 2:01 PM
Yes, it may be a train wreck. The trailers definitely hint at severe difficulties in the relationship. We will see…
Snow Flower
October 19, 2023 at 4:56 AM
I will be watching this only for YSJ.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 17, 2023 at 6:32 AM
Here is the japchae I had at a restaurant recently. Do you see the problem? I think it is visible without tasting. Alas, I was hoping for the Reply 1994 or True Beauty version.
pohonphee
October 17, 2023 at 7:03 AM
What is this japchae’s problem? 😅
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 17, 2023 at 7:42 AM
It was drowning in too much sauce.
owl 🦉 🫰
October 17, 2023 at 9:09 AM
Ohhhh
bbstl 🧹
October 17, 2023 at 11:11 AM
Hahaha they forgot and thought they were making jjajangmyeon!
Cay_sbtgoG
October 17, 2023 at 9:42 PM
I bet it was too sweet. I spot the broth right away and it didn’t look appealing. But appearance aside, was it good?
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 5:59 AM
As you suspected, it tasted a bit too sweet, and the texture was quite soggy.
Cay_sbtgoG
October 18, 2023 at 7:04 AM
No doubt about the sogginess. This is the first time for me seeing japchae cooked like that. But I hope you enjoyed the other dish.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 18, 2023 at 7:12 AM
The other dish was dolsot bibimbap (stone pot), and it was prepared correctly (at least I thought so).
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 7, 2023 at 8:54 PM
Just finished watching Ballerina on Netflix. It’s a rather dark action film, but Jeon Jong-seo is quite entertaining. I never saw Burning, so this is my first time seeing her.
PYC
October 9, 2023 at 8:02 AM
She’s an impressive actress and picking edgy projects. It’s hard to believe Burning was her first acting project. Then so good as Tokyo in Money Heist. Yet to watch Ballerina.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 6, 2023 at 7:46 PM
I am quite annoyed right now. My review of Behind Your Touch posted on the show\’s Discussion tab was deleted. This has happened to me before, with no explanation from DB staff. >:(
DancingEmma
October 6, 2023 at 8:43 PM
@Ghost of Tim: I’m sorry to hear this. Their moderating decisions are disheartening at best and appalling at worst in my experience. For instance, there is a commenter who only posts in the Open Threads every week without fail. They include irrelevant and frankly bizarre things, and often say the most offensive things as well but their posts have not been deleted except once when they expressed horrific and callous views about the invasion of Ukraine, were confronted strongly by a number of beanies and the DB solution was to remove the entire thread. Not to deal with this problematic commenter but to sweep it under the rug.
Why don’t you post it again in this week’s Open Thread?
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 6, 2023 at 9:28 PM
Based on my experiences here, I have to agree with you about the moderating decisions. If they would just tell me why they deleted some of my reviews, I could understand and choose my words more carefully, but they are silent. All I can think of is that I did type “he11” in that review (using 1 instead of l). I used it in the context “what the he11”. Maybe that is what got it deleted, and maybe they have some bot they run to search and destroy based on these keywords.
DancingEmma
October 6, 2023 at 9:37 PM
Hopefully, it is something benign such as “he11” being singled out without cause but as they never respond to queries, there is no clarity.. Maybe replace those words that might trigger a bot and repost it
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain 🕯️
October 6, 2023 at 8:43 PM
😡 That’s disappointing. You’re not someone I think of as posting inappropriate comments – quite the reverse.
Blue (@mayhemf)
October 7, 2023 at 1:59 AM
I say tag dbstaff on the discussion page and ask them about your review disappearance. It Could be a bug and unintentional Or atleast you will get an explanation.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 7, 2023 at 5:47 AM
Good idea, but guess what? For some reason, I am now blocked from leaving a discussion comment on the show. Apparently, after removing my original comment, they have blocked me from re-entering a new one there. Same thing happened to me on the A Time Called You discussion page. I guess this will be the last year I purchase premium subscriber status here. @dbstaff
missvictrix
October 7, 2023 at 6:27 AM
@ghostoftim Just popping in to defend the team and the hardworking spam filter to let you know that your review wasn’t deleted — we are seeing it in the discussion tab for BYT here: https://www.dramabeans.com/shows/behind-your-touch/#comment-4125066 If you are still having issues feel free to email the hello address and we can take a deeper look.
Blue (@mayhemf)
October 7, 2023 at 7:35 AM
I believe there is some confusion in how we access the page. Eg, if I search for a show and click on any link and then click discussion tab I see a different page, Which doesn’t have many reviews including Tim’s. But if I click on the link above I see the comment!!
May be the way I come to this page matters?? Or there are two different discussion tabs.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 7, 2023 at 8:00 AM
@missvictrix @mayhemf Yes, I am experiencing exactly what Blue described. I do see my review when I click on the link provided by missvictrix, but when I follow the steps Blue mentioned (which is how most people will check out a show), the older comments are not appearing (the last comment I see is by Cay_sbtgoG). So the problem appears to be not one of removal but rather not displaying the full list of comments for a show. Hopefully the staff can fix this.
I apologize for thinking my review comments were being removed, but honestly if they don’t appear for people to read, it’s almost as bad.
missvictrix
October 7, 2023 at 10:07 AM
@ghostoftim @mayhemf Thank you both for this thread — it helped us realize there is a bug going on with how the Discussion tab gets fed. I won’t bore you with the technicalities but yes, all the comments/reviews are not turning up properly in the Discussion tab. We are on it! Please email the inbox if you find another case where this is happening, as it might help them figure out what’s up and fix it faster. And since we’re all on this old, heavy, beloved, worn out site together, we appreciate all the grace we can get from the Beanies 🙂
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 7, 2023 at 11:00 AM
@missvictrix thank you for the explanation. I would be happy to help you test the fix, so feel free to tag me in a post (or email me) if you would like my testing assistance.
Cecee is done DramaQueening
October 10, 2023 at 8:45 AM
Can you share it as a post on your own Fan Wall for us to read? I know it doesn’t solve the issue. But this could be a great way if this keeps happening to you.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 10, 2023 at 8:50 AM
@DarkCc you can read it using the link to it that missvictrix shared in her reply above, which is: https://www.dramabeans.com/shows/behind-your-touch/#comment-4125066
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 10, 2023 at 1:04 PM
Update: thank you @db-staff for adding the new “Show More Discussions” link after scrolling to the bottom of a Drama’s Discussion comments. It is working nicely to “unhide” the older comments, like many of mine.
Ghost of Tim (eccentric observations from a male perspective)
October 5, 2023 at 9:37 PM
Destined with You E14. Buckets of ghostly tears…this is Sageuk at its best, plus past-lives storylines always deeply affect me.
RenOIshi
October 6, 2023 at 1:37 PM
He surpassed my expectation in this scene. His heartbreak oooff!