@nomeamesca, the subs for episode 9 will most definitely be out... but the teams need some time. the episode just aired two days ago, and i'll bet they're hard at work on the subbing. they're fast, but they're not magic.

I still think The Devil is the best show that is on right now. At least the most intelligent. It reminds me of the vengence series.

Do you guys know where I can get a subbed version of episode 9, in either chinese or english? Really want to watch it. Tried youtube,dailymotion,veoh,and tudou, except tudou has a non subbed version. I think people are afraid to put out this episode with subtitles.....

I so was not into this series (and that says alot b/c i am watching a million all at once now and forever), but after a scene like that I have to start watching from the beginning again. I saw you say you just have to watch a few to get into it. SO I will and thanks a million Java I adore this blogg and read it religiously!!!

Thank you for going to the trouble of translating this scene! Although I have not actually watched the show I am learning about all of the potential meaning within this episode through reading everyone's posts! Thank you guys for posting your opinions and interpretations - it is truly a worthwhile distraction from studying. *I like to see how people analyze and interpret things differently..

Thank you for the updates.
Nevertheless, still a wonderful scene and summary.
Enjoying it.

First, I want to thanks Javabeans, much much much, you make my day these days.

Second, I repost what I post in soompi forum, to defense TJ, sorry for being long, I just want to know how you think about it after this:

I must jump in here and say, I love the work of the director in this drama too, but I don't think his new work here emerged like brutal, out of the line in terms of sexual aspect, compared to MNIKSS.

Remember back in MNIKSS, the sexual part is not subtle, it's just because people were so mesmerized by the comedic romance that they ignored it. Sam Soon's ex claimed out loud he's her first man (sexually), Jin Hyun asked for Sam soon for something more "meaty" even before he broke up with Hee Jin, and the flash back scene between Jin Hyun and Hee Jin, where Hee Jin worn only a tiny boxer, and so many more, blah blah... So what the director want to say? Love is a thing, but it's not like pure, it must be horny sometimes. And sex is not a shameful spice at all, you love, you definitely want a piece of your partner, even when she's strangely chubby...

So, for QSS, I expect from the beginning it's gonna be kissing and hugging, and sexually hot, and it pays back way more than I can say, beautifully. For those who are suprised at the so called raping scene, I must defense TJ. It's not raping, it's just like many other say, TJ's insecurely desperate grab of what is outright HIS! And the act is just naturally out of his raw side that he never hides from the beginning:
-Ep. 2: he said to his hyung, he can afford all stuff and let the ladies pay cause he gave women what they want "Someone that's sweet and spicy to make love with."
-Ep. 3: he said "what men wants is something else", and he also said he always like "woman with full package"
-Ep. 4: he found HR sexy, flirtatious and can't say he's completely turned off, not interested in HR like in ep. 2 any more
-Ep. 5: he stared at HR's statuesque dancing body, the playboy side of his prevailed, so, forget ES (and I think it's right at the time, cause ES was just not there yet to stir up the chemistry)
-Ep. 6: he took a shower, confronted the scene he saw ES and JH, unpleasantly exploding in his mind that the one who idolized him all along now "spent the night" with another man and came home early in the morning with a strange outfit.
-Ep. 7: he's gone crazy as he knows ES spend more nights at JH's place, all he can think of is night, alone, men are like wolves. He definitely felt insecured over her, someone another man now can touch, so he stalked, and tried use money to make her quit that part time night job at JH's apartment.
-Ep. 8: He felt pleasant and secured again as the tension still going on as he grabbed ES around her waist, closed to him. So he acted up, didn't know that it would later push her further away and backfire him. He was floored again at the party, when the girl now appeared not only sexy, ladylike hot, but also initiatively independently out of his control. He was more annoyed that the other man, JH, found her sexiness when he didn't, and reacted well. He's about to lose what's his, so later when he went out with ES for work, when she turned on the cute&naive side to him with the fake camera, he took the chance to say nice things to her for the first time, but later it just turned bad and she walked away. He cursed at himself and wanted her even more, head over heels for ES, as a woman now and felt so powerless when it's used to be his play field, his charm, so he called his hyung to go drink to dead.
-Ep. 9: Knowing ES would accompany JH to Singapore, he went too, stared intensively at them all the time. His bad thought about sex that might happen between them reached to top when he saw JH took keys for only 1 room, and it was relieved a second later when JH took keys to another room. In all the annoying conversation where he spoiled the mood, he talked like selling body, sex without love is a common thing. But truly, all he wanted is that just not gonna happen between ES and JH. When he saw JH so worked up about ES, reslized those 2 getting genuine and closer together, he barged into her room to get things out of his chest. He only become more irritated as he saw JH there, and they're getting nearer to what he's afraid with a romatic setting, and ES all protected JH and even slapped him. Like a wounded animal, he bang his head on the bar, and I bet he kept picturing those 2 in a room, maybe doing, you know, stuff. So the next morning, he just couldn't help but feel like lost her completely, must go grab her, kiss her, make her his again instead of walk around line HR's maid. He was about to phm...explode!!!! even before seeing her, cause he was all trembling, his left hand was shaking like crazy as he pounded the door, so the consequences are as you know. When he threw her on the bed, to me it was like, "how dare you protest, don't you like me kissing? don't you feel anything anymore? how dare you make me so powerless and misserable? with one kiss I make you obsessed, with something more I make you mine, my power, you're mine, MINE! not any other man's".

So, I admit there's must be sexual desire (cause it's all about sex for TJ when he loves woman, I'm not saying he's pervert, it's just who he is, strongly sexual oriented and outspoken, besides, he thinks ES is sexy now, so, no wonder), but it does not reach the kind of raping to satisfy anything. It's more like an desperate act for masculinity and territory and love that TJ can't express. So don't accuse him, and don't accuse ES for forgive him. Don't you even feel kinda turn on if someone you love grab you, push you to the wall/bed and do something like that? The kind of busting surge of adrenaline in that, swear to god, is just what makes great love, great sex, guilty pleasure.

Besides, ES loves TS also out of such guilty curiosity of experiencing sexy thing, with a playful, bad guy that she shouldn't be with. When she saw him kissed other, she even secretly wish for his lips. She likes peeping on others' kissing too. I feel like, just like some eager teen girl watch porn for the fist time, shy but can't help but kinda like it, she likes TJ, didn't even think of his past, forgave him when he stood her up, even happy after being tood up just because she got his number, endured every yelling and insulting from him. So why not forget everything and enjoying him now, when he loves her so much? She's naive but not that moral to feel offended and ruin everything.

Agr... I always love a bad guy, and TJ is not that bad either, he said he's not the kind that sleep around with women here and there, he's just the type that "After this woman, I go to that woman... and then another one.", and he cares about ES, her sister, her family. Out of being guilty for all the troubles and pains he caused her or whatever, he just cares, and be sweet, subtly. I bang my head to the wall so many times to wake up after watching QSS, because Eric is just so great in acting that make me miss the bad boy I love and it's bad, I just can't carry myself normally with my BF after remember stuff like this.

Back to the PD, I admire him to be this bold, basic-instinct kind of person to pull off steam in any intimate scenes he directed. I became insanely talktative these days because of QSS, signs...

I love ur blog. Not only is the content entertaining and insightful. But I also love ur site. Its one of the best put together sites I have seen to date.

Aja Aja Fighting!!!

After silently stalking this blog since QSS aired, I just wanted to chimed in with my thoughts on the series. Not only is it bold in the direction it's going but it manages to (aside from, quoting Javabeans, challenge it's viewers) make me root for the two leads despite the controversy.
It's not your typical love story.
QSS reminds me of Ruler of Your Own World. For the sheer fact that both series involves an act of violation amongst the two leads whom I never expected to forgive each other, re-trust one another and be in love happily. I'm anxious to see if TJ/ES will have enough courage to step up and prove me wrong again.

L-O-V-E this blog. Thank YOU, Javabeans!

docmitasha, i saw a raw video of ep 9 without english subtitles. I downloaded it from a soompai.com forum :D

sorry, I WISH it did, but so far subtitles have been released up to episode 4 (that i know of)