Ugh, tears indeed, when she was shown – burning that note. She sure enough took it home, most likely sneakily excited (🤔). Then burnt it because of … a guilty conscience considering her late husband…? ☹️🤔😖
The conflict! I guess she won’t be able to admit she has feelings for him, at least not very soon.
While I do hope she can come around–I think she has two major issues:
1. She still clearly loves her husband, and while it’s obviously totally both within her rights and also right for her to eventually move on to love again after his death, it’s not like that’s an easy thing to do, so she has to feel those feels.
2. Her family-by-marriage is the sworn enemy of his. So….
@fancypants She is coming to love him sooo much and what I really take from this scene is her UTTER FEAR to love again and to be allowed to love again and to know that no one will support her in that right now. It’s utterly heartbreaking to me, in the ways you’ve also expressed.
This show could break us worse than the other show with vampires. I really, really hope it doesn’t.
I think I see what you are trying to say, maybe…? I guess my definition of a loving relationship doesn’t really involve having someone or giving over the self…but those sort of words tend to end up in romance descriptions.
I appreciate that you seem to be emphasizing the giving of love vs the receiving of love, is that correct ?
I guess what I meant is loving someone fully doesn’t always equate into agreeing to have a romantic relationship with them. Consent being not just about how one feels or how much one loves but about what that person believes to be right – for them, for that situation, etc. And I don’t see that as fear so much but care.
And I sense these two characters have moved beyond feelings and are at the consent stage. What I get from her behaviour this episode is that she is accepting that she can feel romantic feelings again but is not consenting to deepening their relationship. She eludes to some of the reasoning for this when she said: what is the point, i will never see you again after this He can’t fault that.
so bittersweet kinda
but the episode ends on a hopeful note as he has committed himself to try to make a pathway for their relationship, to have something real in response to her: what is the point
whew! i got all serious er something. so out of character…
Not to mention the gosh-awful social and political uproar that will be caused if a she were found out to actually be actually human (you know, feelings and stuff) instead of a “widow”
Burning a letter like that can save your life! I did not see it as a rejection, though she is not as sweet on him as he is on her. You can get killed just for existing at the royal court. Having a love letter lying around… not a good idea.
I am, though, very into the two of them having a relationship beyond letters and long looks across a crowded room.
But for that to happen, they need to survive first.
Absolutely adorable. Look at Sam-soon’s little excited face!!! Look at orabeoni’s little excited face! I JUST CAN’T. My heart! MY HEART!! **Seon-ha faints dead away off her uncomfortable little stool**
The does-he-or-does-he-not recognize his sister thing is also working for me. Soon-deok is worried that Sam-soon will get hurt because she knows her brother is anti-marriage, and he’s clearly all in for Sam-soon, so there’s additional cute little family hurdles.
IMAGINE the adorable wedding when Sam-soon becomes Soon-deok’s sister and everyone’s happy and it’s the best best best.
I could easily imagine her killing her daughter, but also I could imagine her feeling by and by that the team she wanted to be on was the women’s team, not the “r*ping and killing young girls and women” team. Her priorities and loyalties would change quite a bit, then.
Among her many internal contradictions is that she acknowledges women’s worth yet she props up a patriarchal system. I fear she has done too much against the king to switch sides and keep all her loved ones alive, but perhaps she might find a way to leave the younger generation of women in her family in a situation that affords them some hope and autonomy.
She might want to kill some of those men, you never know. And that could make it easier for the two sides to get along… maybe I’m dreaming. But remember the King don’t really mind the political standpoint, the party, but only all that scheming.
I think she wants to be the one who controls the next king. That’s what they’re plotting for. The king is not specifically threatening them, not as far as we have seen so far, and also not according to what he said to the fourth wall camera. He likes some resistance and critique, though it is annoying, but he hates the power hunger of the left state minister and his gang. And until now, she can easily compete in power hunger with her … it’s brother, right?
She may feel strongly about her children, but she might feel equally strong about having political power. But a change in focus from domination to (sister) solidarity can happen, since she is obviously not accepted as an equal. And her brother was pretty annoyed that she was so effective last time there was a meeting.
“I suggest we do so and so … and I have already set it in motion.”
He did not like that.
And I don’t know that the crown prince is threatening her family other than “to not take the throne from him”. And she is fully on board with – actually leading – the plan to get at the crown prince and killing him, the gentle, fourteen-year-old boy.
The idea of the party that our boy Jung-woo’s father started was to have the best brains leading the country through discussions and arguments. That is what the Left State Minister said in his fourth wall interview. (Only ruined slightly by ending on a clear “Muahahah!”)
Since she is obviously the best brain at those meetings, the idea probably appeals to her.
Honestly, having thought about it: The way she talked about the clan at the beginning – and I think I remember a short scene with a bonsai tree, too?
I believe she is ready to nip and clip to get only the most perfect branches exactly like she wants them shaped. I trust her to have killed her own daughter and her own “sickly” son – whether she did it because he always was sickly or he had the wrong attitude and was made sickly by her.
I trust her to see the healthy energy of Soon-Deuk and use it for her clan, as long as she can get to decide everything about SD’s life.
Matchmaker Mother-in-Law Bonsai
(I found the illustration I was looking for).
I say Mother-in-Law is gardening her clan like a bonsai, and I mean, like this cartoon by Franquin.
I don’t speak French, but I remember that the bonsai enthusiast talks about how you nip and cut the tree to inhibit unwanted growth and make it exactly the controlled piece of organic art that you want, miming an idea of nature. And then those to frightened boys jump down from the tree and call him “Dad”.
I think Mother-in-Law is like that.
***
I do read French. That’s a really dark comic, Cecilie!! K-drama-worthy dark 😉
Despite all the best efforts of the plant to live on its own terms, our main character takes gleeful joy in using scissors, his fingernails, copper wire, pegs, rocks–anything at his disposal to mold that living thing into a form he himself calls abnormal and bizarre…his ideal shape. And then he curses at the clippings–who do indeed call him Papa–for trying to climb the trees. Seems to me that they might have been trying to get back home!!!
I see it as even worse; He makes Bonsai, and explains the technique, but in above horrifying way … it turns out then, that he has “brought up” his own children in the same way.
Lol I think it’s more that he doesn’t get to be his wife since his master drags him around all day. So he just has to watch everyone else having fun hah
This was my thought too – if he could just bring her along, he’d be much happier! He’s complained multiple times about being kept away from her because he has to work long hours.
Yes! And of course she comes to the rescue. 🦆 Can’t wait to continue watching this scene in the next episode, it looked very swoony in the preview!
(Underwater rescues by the FL seem to be en vogue – same thing in Moon in the Day. 🤔 It just looks very beautiful, I have to admit. Cannot imagine what it must be like to film this though. 😬)
– Tomorrow, Kim He-Sun saved him (but she was kinda responsible of his fall in the water)
– The King’s Affection : Park Eun-Bin’s character saved twice! As a kid and then as an adult, but again, she was the one who pushed him.
In Extraordinary You, he saved Danoh but disapeared after.
The cinematographer for this show deserves all the awards going! This is SUCH a beautiful shot! And thanks again @attiton, your eye for the best shots in any show also deserves all the awards going!
We can also see the pain of the realizations that are to come (what with her being the Left State Minister’s daughter-in-law and her uncle-by-marriage being the most despicable human in this story), but Jung-woo’s honest (sadly naive) sincerity just has my entire heart devoted to him–and for once–it seems to me–his love interest is actually worthy of this attention!!! It was also so extra swoony when he finally learned her real name!!! He can call her by her real name!!!
Oh, my heart, our hearts. This week was so amazing.
Well, there is one thing that bugs me about this episode, and since you’ve given me an opening, Emma, I’m going to take it.
Our mystery-solving crew needs a “disposable dead body” for their plan (already a problem) and Viki’s translators say that the body they end up finding and using is that of a “gypsy.” WHY, 왜, WHY this racist term??? I dunno. Maybe it’s not “gypsy” in the Korean (you’ll know better than I, of course) and this is therefore a translation problem, or not–it’s probably problematic all the way down…I just get so tired of these “one little things that I wish weren’t there.” Do be forewarned.
Oh, thank you for this @kurama !!! It’s still not ideal to further take away the dignity of the undertrodden by using their dead bodies for the purposes of mere “distraction,” but I’m glad to hear that the word in Korean was probably less ethnically charged.
However, one issue would still remain…TRANSLATOR?? What were you thinking?
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 10:39 AM
An exceptional, exceptionally wonderful MatchMakers episode this week (episode 7). Perhaps it deserved its place alone in the sun.
More, as so often happens, below.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 10:39 AM
I broke down in blubbering tears during this scene.
Which was all the more surprising as I had just laughed myself to tears in this previous scene.
sonai
November 21, 2023 at 11:28 AM
Ugh, tears indeed, when she was shown – burning that note. She sure enough took it home, most likely sneakily excited (🤔). Then burnt it because of … a guilty conscience considering her late husband…? ☹️🤔😖
The conflict! I guess she won’t be able to admit she has feelings for him, at least not very soon.
chokulit
November 21, 2023 at 11:50 AM
Maybe just to ensure that there’s no trace of her double-life in their home. I was thinking she’d pull back and stop burning the letter.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 12:48 PM
While I do hope she can come around–I think she has two major issues:
1. She still clearly loves her husband, and while it’s obviously totally both within her rights and also right for her to eventually move on to love again after his death, it’s not like that’s an easy thing to do, so she has to feel those feels.
2. Her family-by-marriage is the sworn enemy of his. So….
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 3:34 PM
I think she does know that she likes him, but is making a decision about what she is or isn’t going to do with those feelings.
I got the sense that burning was about covering her tracks most of all.
With her experience and position in society, she has more capacity to appreciate and let go.
He has never loved before, so it makes sense for him to be more twitterpated and her to be more practical.
Seon-ha
November 22, 2023 at 3:42 PM
@fancypants She is coming to love him sooo much and what I really take from this scene is her UTTER FEAR to love again and to be allowed to love again and to know that no one will support her in that right now. It’s utterly heartbreaking to me, in the ways you’ve also expressed.
This show could break us worse than the other show with vampires. I really, really hope it doesn’t.
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 3:53 PM
Well, it may be my life experience or the fact that I am a Noble Idiot, but I don’t equate loving with having.
Making a decision to not get involved with someone you cherish isn’t necessarily a fear based decision, but recognizing what is right for you.
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 3:55 PM
but what am I saying ?!
this a rom-com..she should just go for it
I mean have you seen Row-oon?!
Seon-ha
November 22, 2023 at 4:22 PM
@fancypants I don’t think her fear comes from “having him,” I think her fear comes from giving herself to him. But that could just be projection.
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 5:24 PM
I think I see what you are trying to say, maybe…? I guess my definition of a loving relationship doesn’t really involve having someone or giving over the self…but those sort of words tend to end up in romance descriptions.
I appreciate that you seem to be emphasizing the giving of love vs the receiving of love, is that correct ?
I guess what I meant is loving someone fully doesn’t always equate into agreeing to have a romantic relationship with them. Consent being not just about how one feels or how much one loves but about what that person believes to be right – for them, for that situation, etc. And I don’t see that as fear so much but care.
And I sense these two characters have moved beyond feelings and are at the consent stage. What I get from her behaviour this episode is that she is accepting that she can feel romantic feelings again but is not consenting to deepening their relationship. She eludes to some of the reasoning for this when she said: what is the point, i will never see you again after this He can’t fault that.
so bittersweet kinda
but the episode ends on a hopeful note as he has committed himself to try to make a pathway for their relationship, to have something real in response to her: what is the point
whew! i got all serious er something. so out of character…
Semma Vetti
November 23, 2023 at 5:47 AM
Not to mention the gosh-awful social and political uproar that will be caused if a she were found out to actually be actually human (you know, feelings and stuff) instead of a “widow”
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 22, 2023 at 5:08 PM
Burning a letter like that can save your life! I did not see it as a rejection, though she is not as sweet on him as he is on her. You can get killed just for existing at the royal court. Having a love letter lying around… not a good idea.
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 5:25 PM
you said it better than me
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 26, 2023 at 3:33 AM
I am, though, very into the two of them having a relationship beyond letters and long looks across a crowded room.
But for that to happen, they need to survive first.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Absolutely adorable. Look at Sam-soon’s little excited face!!! Look at orabeoni’s little excited face! I JUST CAN’T. My heart! MY HEART!! **Seon-ha faints dead away off her uncomfortable little stool**
Kurama
November 21, 2023 at 11:23 AM
Poor Sam-Soon! She was so sad.
Kafiyah Bello
November 21, 2023 at 12:32 PM
She really is utterly adorable and I can’t wait until they get together.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 21, 2023 at 7:18 PM
They are so stinkin’ cute! 😍 I’m glad he was honest when she asked if he was married.
Seon-ha
November 22, 2023 at 7:43 AM
The does-he-or-does-he-not recognize his sister thing is also working for me. Soon-deok is worried that Sam-soon will get hurt because she knows her brother is anti-marriage, and he’s clearly all in for Sam-soon, so there’s additional cute little family hurdles.
IMAGINE the adorable wedding when Sam-soon becomes Soon-deok’s sister and everyone’s happy and it’s the best best best.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Oh, shit. Oh…shit.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 21, 2023 at 7:13 PM
She wouldn’t silence her own daughter, would she?
Seon-ha
November 22, 2023 at 7:44 AM
She will silence whoever gets in her way, be it her brother…or perhaps her daughter.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 22, 2023 at 5:16 PM
I could easily imagine her killing her daughter, but also I could imagine her feeling by and by that the team she wanted to be on was the women’s team, not the “r*ping and killing young girls and women” team. Her priorities and loyalties would change quite a bit, then.
♡Peach_Mochi♡
November 22, 2023 at 5:50 PM
Among her many internal contradictions is that she acknowledges women’s worth yet she props up a patriarchal system. I fear she has done too much against the king to switch sides and keep all her loved ones alive, but perhaps she might find a way to leave the younger generation of women in her family in a situation that affords them some hope and autonomy.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 22, 2023 at 6:07 PM
She might want to kill some of those men, you never know. And that could make it easier for the two sides to get along… maybe I’m dreaming. But remember the King don’t really mind the political standpoint, the party, but only all that scheming.
Kurama
November 23, 2023 at 1:01 AM
I don’t think she would kill her daughter. She would kill everybody who put her family in danger. But she’s a mama bear for me. Not a serial killer.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 23, 2023 at 1:37 AM
I think she wants to be the one who controls the next king. That’s what they’re plotting for. The king is not specifically threatening them, not as far as we have seen so far, and also not according to what he said to the fourth wall camera. He likes some resistance and critique, though it is annoying, but he hates the power hunger of the left state minister and his gang. And until now, she can easily compete in power hunger with her … it’s brother, right?
She may feel strongly about her children, but she might feel equally strong about having political power. But a change in focus from domination to (sister) solidarity can happen, since she is obviously not accepted as an equal. And her brother was pretty annoyed that she was so effective last time there was a meeting.
“I suggest we do so and so … and I have already set it in motion.”
He did not like that.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 24, 2023 at 12:38 PM
And I don’t know that the crown prince is threatening her family other than “to not take the throne from him”. And she is fully on board with – actually leading – the plan to get at the crown prince and killing him, the gentle, fourteen-year-old boy.
The idea of the party that our boy Jung-woo’s father started was to have the best brains leading the country through discussions and arguments. That is what the Left State Minister said in his fourth wall interview. (Only ruined slightly by ending on a clear “Muahahah!”)
Since she is obviously the best brain at those meetings, the idea probably appeals to her.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 26, 2023 at 3:43 AM
Honestly, having thought about it: The way she talked about the clan at the beginning – and I think I remember a short scene with a bonsai tree, too?
I believe she is ready to nip and clip to get only the most perfect branches exactly like she wants them shaped. I trust her to have killed her own daughter and her own “sickly” son – whether she did it because he always was sickly or he had the wrong attitude and was made sickly by her.
I trust her to see the healthy energy of Soon-Deuk and use it for her clan, as long as she can get to decide everything about SD’s life.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 26, 2023 at 5:55 AM
Matchmaker Mother-in-Law Bonsai
(I found the illustration I was looking for).
I say Mother-in-Law is gardening her clan like a bonsai, and I mean, like this cartoon by Franquin.
I don’t speak French, but I remember that the bonsai enthusiast talks about how you nip and cut the tree to inhibit unwanted growth and make it exactly the controlled piece of organic art that you want, miming an idea of nature. And then those to frightened boys jump down from the tree and call him “Dad”.
I think Mother-in-Law is like that.
***
Seon-ha
November 26, 2023 at 6:40 AM
I do read French. That’s a really dark comic, Cecilie!! K-drama-worthy dark 😉
Despite all the best efforts of the plant to live on its own terms, our main character takes gleeful joy in using scissors, his fingernails, copper wire, pegs, rocks–anything at his disposal to mold that living thing into a form he himself calls abnormal and bizarre…his ideal shape. And then he curses at the clippings–who do indeed call him Papa–for trying to climb the trees. Seems to me that they might have been trying to get back home!!!
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 26, 2023 at 7:00 AM
I see it as even worse; He makes Bonsai, and explains the technique, but in above horrifying way … it turns out then, that he has “brought up” his own children in the same way.
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 26, 2023 at 7:05 AM
You see, he also makes model plains and shrunken heads, too. And he likes to control his children, like so many parents do.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Last one so that we end on giggles! As @kafiyah-bello noted, poor, poor, Kim O-bong. But you do make us laugh, man!
Kurama
November 21, 2023 at 11:20 AM
But he’s married! He can’t complain! He should be happy that his wife is safe :p
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 22, 2023 at 5:19 PM
He is newlywed but isn’t given time to spend with his wife and Jung-woo is completely deaf to his pleas for having a little extra time off.
chokulit
November 21, 2023 at 11:54 AM
5th wheel O-Bong! He feels hot with all the longing around him – Sam-Soon is very straightforward while Jungwoo is all aegyo.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 12:45 PM
I guess his marriage isn’t all that–but then again, I’m glad he’s there to remind us of the reality of daily life after the butterflies are over!!
velvetstuff
November 22, 2023 at 6:56 AM
Lol I think it’s more that he doesn’t get to be his wife since his master drags him around all day. So he just has to watch everyone else having fun hah
Unaspirated
November 22, 2023 at 7:25 AM
This was my thought too – if he could just bring her along, he’d be much happier! He’s complained multiple times about being kept away from her because he has to work long hours.
Kafiyah Bello
November 21, 2023 at 12:31 PM
Lol, this made me laugh again, this poor man is so long suffering.His facial expressions are top notch.
Semma Vetti
November 23, 2023 at 5:53 AM
And yet he cares for Jung Woo
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
November 24, 2023 at 12:40 PM
Yes, he is remarkably kind, even to that horrible master. (That we all love, but we don’t have to put up with him every day).
Margo of the Resilient Lip Gloss
November 22, 2023 at 3:40 PM
Love him. I like how in the 매이깅 videos, he explains how he is actually the Main Character.
HopefulRomantic 🦋 Tigermoth 🦞
November 21, 2023 at 10:52 AM
All gorgeous, as usual! ❤️ I love seeing your gifs!!
sonai
November 21, 2023 at 11:32 AM
Oh, the header scene had me melting. It really was such a beautiful episode! (Still sad we did not get two this week, but this one was perfection.)
Thank you for the GIFs! 💯👏🪭🐧🦆
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 12:45 PM
So beautiful. OKOK. I know Cecilie had this one up as well, but I can’t resist dropping this shot in here. GAH.
Just watch and then watch again!!!
sonai
November 21, 2023 at 1:22 PM
Yes! And of course she comes to the rescue. 🦆 Can’t wait to continue watching this scene in the next episode, it looked very swoony in the preview!
(Underwater rescues by the FL seem to be en vogue – same thing in Moon in the Day. 🤔 It just looks very beautiful, I have to admit. Cannot imagine what it must be like to film this though. 😬)
Kurama
November 22, 2023 at 12:15 AM
Rowoon saved by the FL will become a trope :
– Tomorrow, Kim He-Sun saved him (but she was kinda responsible of his fall in the water)
– The King’s Affection : Park Eun-Bin’s character saved twice! As a kid and then as an adult, but again, she was the one who pushed him.
In Extraordinary You, he saved Danoh but disapeared after.
Semma Vetti
November 25, 2023 at 8:10 PM
The cinematographer for this show deserves all the awards going! This is SUCH a beautiful shot! And thanks again @attiton, your eye for the best shots in any show also deserves all the awards going!
Kafiyah Bello
November 21, 2023 at 12:34 PM
I am not going to lie, when he said everything/all of it. It shook me. I was like OMG, be still heart.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 12:41 PM
I KNOW I KNOW. OMG.
We can also see the pain of the realizations that are to come (what with her being the Left State Minister’s daughter-in-law and her uncle-by-marriage being the most despicable human in this story), but Jung-woo’s honest (sadly naive) sincerity just has my entire heart devoted to him–and for once–it seems to me–his love interest is actually worthy of this attention!!! It was also so extra swoony when he finally learned her real name!!! He can call her by her real name!!!
Oh, my heart, our hearts. This week was so amazing.
DancingEmma
November 21, 2023 at 1:09 PM
Thank you!I’m behind on this but like it. Will look forward to this ep on your rec.
Seon-ha
November 21, 2023 at 2:03 PM
Well, there is one thing that bugs me about this episode, and since you’ve given me an opening, Emma, I’m going to take it.
Our mystery-solving crew needs a “disposable dead body” for their plan (already a problem) and Viki’s translators say that the body they end up finding and using is that of a “gypsy.” WHY, 왜, WHY this racist term??? I dunno. Maybe it’s not “gypsy” in the Korean (you’ll know better than I, of course) and this is therefore a translation problem, or not–it’s probably problematic all the way down…I just get so tired of these “one little things that I wish weren’t there.” Do be forewarned.
DancingEmma
November 21, 2023 at 5:00 PM
That’s just abhorrent. Thanks for warning me.
Kurama
November 22, 2023 at 7:37 AM
I had “dead beggar” not gypsy.
Seon-ha
November 22, 2023 at 7:40 AM
Oh, thank you for this @kurama !!! It’s still not ideal to further take away the dignity of the undertrodden by using their dead bodies for the purposes of mere “distraction,” but I’m glad to hear that the word in Korean was probably less ethnically charged.
However, one issue would still remain…TRANSLATOR?? What were you thinking?
chokulit
November 22, 2023 at 10:26 AM
It was also dead beggar for me
DK-Drama 🫘 Giffing n Space Cadetting🍉🌱
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