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The Midnight Romance in Hagwon: Episodes 7-8

Post-kiss, some secret office dating is afoot as our leads gush over their long-pent-up feelings. But how long will it last before our heroine makes her final decision about which hagwon to work for? With acting and directing that keep this story stapled to the ground, these episodes are my favorites yet.

 
EPISODES 7-8

We land right back in that clandestine kiss and confession scene — and Hye-jin pushes Jun-ho away! I mean, I saw that coming but youch. It’s almost comical afterward, the way she shifts tone and rambles, saying she doesn’t want him to catch a cold. He’s really not worried about catching a cold at all right now. In fact, he states the obvious, just in case it flew over her head somehow: “You know I just confessed, right?”

Hye-jin avoids what he’s saying and then she turns around and covers her mouth in disbelief. Behind her, Jun-ho changes his shirt (in the first of at least three shots this week of Jun-ho without his full attire). Afterward, Hye-jin needs some time to think, which includes replaying the kiss in her head and feeling like she must have lost her mind.

Even though it’s late, Chung-mi arrives at the office and “catches them” with Jun-ho’s shirt drying on a fan. Hye-jin is overzealous in her explanation that nothing is going on, pretty much assuring Chung-mi that something is indeed going on. Jun-ho, for his part, keeps trying to get Hye-jin alone to finish their conversation, but she’s having trouble looking him in the face or being in the same room.

They go to their respective abodes, with Chung-mi crashing at Hye-jin’s that night, assuring that our leads will not finish their discussion just yet. At home, Jun-ho finally changes out of his drenched clothing (and there he is in his skivvies), before deciding to text Hye-jin that they’ll have plenty of time ahead of them to talk. It’s pretty clear he’s planning to pursue her, even if she changes hagwon.

And Hye-jin has in fact decided to accept the Choisun offer — even after Director Kim gives her another apology the next day, during his too-brutal-to-work hangover. She gives Jun-ho the news, telling him not to listen to all the trash talk that’s about to start about her once she leaves. And in the same matter-of-fact manner, she adds, “And we’ll stay like we were before.”

He’s stunned. But she tells him to just focus on his goals. He says his feelings for her are sincere, and asks if she’s playing hard to get (the man is in serious denial at the moment). The more she tells him to focus, the more desperation sets in. “You doing this makes it harder for me to focus,” he says (and I really feel for him).

Their conversation is cut short when Shi-woo arrives and needs to speak to Jun-ho. In the hall, Shi-woo sees Hye-jin and admits that her class was the best he’s ever heard — he’d like to hear another lecture like that. She seems genuinely touched, and we can see already that she’s reconsidering her move to Choisun.

As Jun-ho keeps trying to corner Hye-jin at the office for the rest of the day (with little success), Hye-jin keeps getting distracted by what Shi-woo said. He commented that he’d remember her class for a long time, and yet, she had already forgotten it. She’s feeling some moral responsibility for the fact that they lured this high school kid over for their own economic gain.

By the time she lets Jun-ho drive her home that night, she’s decided to stay at Daechi Chase. Jun-ho still thinks she should seize her opportunity, but she wants to teach Shi-woo until he graduates. Staying for the student is the sentimental choice and it makes her feel better about herself.

She declines the offer at Choisun in person and the Gray Witch looks like she’s got something up her sleeve, but I can’t tell what just yet. It’s clear she’s not happy about being rejected, no matter how nicely Hye-jin states that the contract terms were the best she ever received, she just wants to stay where she is. Hye-jin walks out the door floating, and definitely the happiest we’ve seen her.

But all that happiness turns to crying when she and her friend get drunk after work and discuss why Hye-jin never had a decent boyfriend. Her friend thinks that Hye-jin thought too little of love. When you provide yourself with all the material things that people work for, it’s easy to deceive yourself that you don’t need love. Hye-jin asks, “What if you try to deceive yourself and you don’t fall for it anymore?”

Then she gushes like a teenager about how much she likes Jun-ho. He’s cheerful, sweet, and responsible, but she knows she should pump the breaks because she was his teacher. Her friend asks how she honestly feels and Hye-jin says, “You saw him right? How can you not fall for Jun-ho?” (Awwww. Truthfully, when I saw him smile at his students I wondered the same. How do they manage to study anything but his face?)

Just then, Jun-ho texts Hye-jin a picture of all the sticky notes she gave him when she was his instructor. He’s saved them all and remembers the occasions she gave him each one. Hye-jin breaks into real serious sobs, covering her face and then putting her head down on her arms. She says she’s not a great teacher, she only did those things for Jun-ho.

Her life was so hard in college — while everyone else was dating and going on field trips, she was teaching and cleaning offices for extra pay. But Jun-ho always put her in a good mood. “When my life felt dark and hopeless, I got through it because he was there.” She’s stammering out the words as she cries and blows her nose, and this is, hands down, the most natural and realistic crying scene I’ve ever seen in a K-drama. It’s enough to wrench the heart right out of your chest (with credit to the combo of Jung Ryeo-won and PD Ahn Pan-seok. Wow).

Right in that tender moment, Jun-ho calls. Hye-jin obviously can’t answer, so her friend drunkenly does — and invites him over. She’s hoping for a fantasy couple to form right before her eyes when he arrives. But actually, by the time he gets there, the two ladies are asleep and Jun-ho has to help the wobbling Hye-jin into the car.

When they get to her door, she has to tell him the passcode because he’s the only one that can see straight enough to input the number. And then she invites him in. (How this moment is fraught with so much tension as he stands outside a door ajar is beyond me, but it works.) As soon as he’s inside, she moves toward him with intention and wraps him in a hug. “Could you see all my lies?” she asks. He wants to kiss her but before he does, she goes to the bedroom — where he waits for her to fall asleep and then moves to the couch. (But don’t worry about congratulating him for being such a gentleman because he does that himself. Haha.)

The next morning, Hye-jin finds Jun-ho coming back into her apartment (using the passcode she doesn’t seem to remember giving him) with soup and hangover meds. He wants to take her on a date later, after he covers her classes of course. Facing each other on the couch, he says, “My patience is completely gone. Don’t turn away.” Then he kisses her forehead, her cheek, and her lips, before she grips him in a tight hug and they continue to kiss. And I guess the date is sealed!

At the office, Chung-mi (who has become buddies with Jun-ho and Hye-jin by now) says she’ll cover Hye-jin’s classes, and Jun-ho should go be with her. (Ohhh, this is so sweet.) Jun-ho does as told and once Hye-jin has an IV and feels better, they hold hands and explore the streets, talking about old times, and making references to possible new ones. “I’ll probably be awkward and mess things up occasionally,” she tells him.

In the car, they’ve got their hands locked again, but she tells Jun-ho to keep what they’re doing a secret. She doesn’t want people to talk about her seducing a former student. And even though Jun-ho jokes that the former student seduced her, she doesn’t find it funny. The gossip will affect their reputations.

Once they park at her place, he wants to come upstairs, but she turns him down. So, they’ll have to make out in the car instead (because Jun-ho literally cannot keep himself away from her and it’s so potently captured on camera). Even when they go back to work, they’re sneaking time together after their new joint-teaching class. And by the end, he walks her home, she makes excuses to keep going back outside with him, and finally, she invites him up. What happens when they arrive will be a question for next week.

Oh, this is so cute. They’re adorably head over heels for each other and that new-romance excitement comes across so naturally and authentically that it almost feels wrong to be watching. Like, are we eavesdropping on real people? The scene where Hye-jin lets her tears out as she recounts her difficult past is like that too. It’s shot with brutal honesty. And the kissing isn’t exactly standard drama fare either. There’s a bit of awkward realism, with not-totally-graceful movements and jerky intensity.

I’m excited but also worried about where this is headed. I want to see more of all we’re witnessing, but with only half the drama behind us, I fear we may be moving toward an office scandal. Twice already, we’ve heard mention of a hagwon that was forced to close because two teachers got involved with each other and the rumor mill got ahold of it. Yikes. Welp, if something similar is going to happen to our OTP, I hope they can at least get a few more make-out sessions in beforehand (*waves flag and cheers*).

 
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I love this show to bits. I am so mesmerized by how the story moves and how well it’s directed. So much is said in the silences. The frames speak for themselves. It’s a surreal feeling watching this show and I don’t have words to express it all.

I love these two actors. At this point they are not acting. It feels like I am watching real life. It’s so lived in. The scene between Hye Jin and her friend was a masterpiece. In that moment we see a side of Hye Jin we weren’t privy to before. I am glad she took her time to process her feeling and come to a conclusion. There was so much she had brushed aside in life, so it was nice to see her untangle all her emotions.

‘How can you not like him??’ WORD!!! I have been grinning like an idiot and swooning so deep just looking at him and seeing him lay his heart out for her. And the way he casually told her he is moving in above the convenience store. The man had a plan!!! And he is executing it so perfectly.

I also liked the tiff between the director and Hye Jin. I am so glad he called him out. I cringed when he brought up the ‘paid tuition for your brother’. It was such an underhanded statement and I am so glad he called him out and told him she wasn’t his charity case.

I feel like the show had set up many possibilities. The assistant director seems adamant on her stand, the other lady wants to start her own company, the gray wizard lady is not going to take this loss well etc. knowing this PD’d work I expect some ugly scandal to show its face. But I do hope the leads communicate and stand by each other through whatever that comes at them.

Also, I love the new student. He is the sweetest!!! I hope he finds his passion and gets his happy ending. And I love his relationship with Jun Ho. He is so chill with the student.

From the hesitant first kiss to the morning kiss, the show is delivering!!!!

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All cylinders are blasting and I hope it continues to do so.

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The real charmer is in this drama is Shi-Woo! He's such a good and smart boy! I'm happy she realized they lured him in their school and she will abandon him after...

I like how the relationship feels so real. Hye-jin's reactions are so natural, she has doubts but she already knows she doesn't want her old life anymore, she wants more and Jun-Ho seems to be the one who already gave support in the past. I really like her relationship with her friend.

I wish to see Jun-Ho teaching. Because everybody said he should work to be prepared, the guy works on his lesson, move from his parents house, date, so he wish to see the result of his work too!

Chung-mi is a nice colleague. I like she can fight for her, she's professional, she doesn't mix personnal feelings (not like the one who flirts with Jun-Ho).

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I adore Shi Woo, he is so precious and I only want good things for him.

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every episode I think we are finally seeing how good junho class must be - to the point that someone who never had a previous experience teaching was hired by a top academy - and then we dont really get it. for a show that has this background, I thought we would have more teaching scenes tbh

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Omg, our OTP is so cute. I will say because of the way WHJ kisses JRW never knows where to put her hand. It is actually kind of funny. Idk if it is on purpose or not, but her hand always flailing is a source of amusement to me. For Jun Ho Hye Jin is a wish fulfillment come to fruition. So I will just enjoy the ride and worry about the angst when it comes.

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lol. It’s so cute. She is so awkwardly cute. I loved that scene where she was kissing and then suddenly goes to hug him much to his delight. May be she knows there is toned muscles there and she isn’t ready to feel those yet?? But why?? 😅

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I feel like the flailing hand was intentional and such a good touch of acting from JRW. Definitely embodied the awkward but lovely kisses, so cute!

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I think the hands are intentional to match what hyejin said about herself, how she doesnt have a lot of dating experience bcs she was busy growing up, making money and supporting her family.

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The hand flailing certainly suits her character here, but it’s a Jung Ryeowon signature move. She did the same in one of my favorite scenes in King of Drama!

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I can see that, the way he kisses by grabbing her head, makes arm and hand placement difficult.

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omg, watching KoD was super fun back then!!

Jun Ryeo Won is a joy to watch! She can do wild and wacky characters just as well as more subdued and introspective characters. She's come a long way from My Name is Kim Sam Soon!! 🤣

When I see her name in the cast, I know I'm in good hands with her character, and I'll always give her shows a shot!

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I can't say enough about the scene with Hye-jin and her friend.

Simply outstanding.

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Totally agree! Such a great moment, I felt like I was watching my friends and wanted to comment as well xD

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The sismance almost rivaled the romance for me at that point. So natural. So honest. So healthy. Well, except for passing out drunk but that’s just SK. 😂

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LOL at that last sentence. Every time she took a sip I was like, you don't need it. But kdramaland has other plans.

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yep, it was supposed to be just a sip of beer, but I was wondering where all that wine came from! 😅

good thing they didn't raid Dir Kim's liquor cabinet for those single malt whiskies! 🤪

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I loved both episodes so much. The romance was romancing so hard but in such a real feeling way, and while Hye Jin and Jun Ho are obviously my favorites, right up there is Chung Mi too.

I love how pragmatic Chung Mi is, i love how happy the gift of the tablet made her and how grateful she is to Hye Jin for it and how matter of fact her friendship with Jun Ho is. She clearly doesn't seem to be super impressed with him lol but in a very long suffering friends way, and refuses to allow drama and back biting to happen between her and Hye Jin despite workplace forces trying to make it happen.

The conversation between Hye Jin and her friend was so touching, not only to get a solid feeling of Hye Jin and her feelings but also just as character moments to establish them as comfortable long time friends. The drunk bits were hilarious, and the morning after was so good.

One thing i really loved about the romantic bits is that while Hye Jin is a little awkward because she's spent so long focusing on everything but that part of her, she's not some wilting violet when it comes to kissing and the idea of sex, the way kdramas sometimes write otherwise capable adult women as soon as they're faced with a man. It's frustrating when it feels like the physical romance parts are all initiated by the man and the woman just eventually gives in or has to be a shy recipient, instead of being an enthusiastic equal in expressing physical feelings. I loved her giggling about making up the excuse for milk and then inviting him upstairs.

I'm sure there will be darker times coming when more people find out but i hope they don't get too dark, I've been enjoying the show and it's realistic feeling pace so far.

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Agree about how Hye Jin is written. Yeah, this is all new for her but doesn’t mean she has no feelings. She is figuring it out as she goes. And the way his face changed in delightful shock when she told him she lied about the milk, was precious. And then the way she called him upstairs. (It was nice that she did this after his casual remark that she should be calling him up for tea or ramen after their first date).

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Yes, I loved that even though Jun Ho initiated the kiss that morning, her response was a bit akward with not knowing what to do with her hands, but then her hug and her peppering kisses on his face was both really cute and also a very nice touch in showing that she's getting used to this new thing but she's super into it.

I really love Ryeo Won, she hasn't done a single bit of acting ever that I've disliked, no matter what the writing's done.

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Yes, the more I see of Cheong-mi, the more I root for her!

She's definitely not a "mini Hye Jin", although they've hinted at many similarities between them. To me, she embodies the best qualities of the MZ generation. She's savvy and confident, selectively efficient, with a sharply honed BS-meter.

She's already becoming a sturdy ally for Hye Jin and Jun Ho, of course. She's much more pragmatic than Hye Jin (HJ's intrinsically more sentimental) and with a few tips from Hye Jin, she'd be the perfect candidate for Vice President of Daechi Chase!

Sure, she had other motives in volunteering to take over Hye Jin's morning classes, but it's not like she's ever made a secret of her ambitions, and she did it in such a subtle, diplomatic way that ensured everyone got what they wanted: Hye Jin has her classes covered, Jun Ho gets to spend time with his gf, and Cheong-mi is able to show her gratitude for the PC tablet, plus she gets a taste of dealing with the top lecturer's students - and it sounded like they were having fun in her class too.

(not to mention, I cracked up when she was telling Jun Ho off like an older sister and asking how he was gonna explain to people how he knew that Hye Jin was sick! *insert Cheong Mi eye rolls*)

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I love this show so much!

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I love the change and development Hye-jin went through in these two episodes, both because of Jun-jo and Shi-woo. And by the end of it, she genuinely looked way happier.

I also like Chung-mi. She could be a great ally for Hye-jin and Jun-ho, which she already was this week when she realized that Jun-ho notifying people that Hye-jin was "sick" was probably not the smartest move. I also like how she sees opportunities, but not in a backstabbing way, like her taking over Hye-jin's class while Jun-ho gets to go to her was genuinely a win-win for both of them.

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Yes, it was a big turning point/wake-up call for her, both as an educator and as a woman, and she's now at a stage in her life where she feels she can allow herself to accept these changes and be happy, even though as she says, she's not usually fond of change.

I feel like we'll get more background on HJ's family soon, but it was obviously a huge strain on the young student HJ to help provide for her family and younger brother, then Dir Kim relied on her to help grow the academy, and focusing on work and making money became such a habit that she never explored things like dating.

Every time Hye Jin displays her business acumen and top strategist skills, I want to fist pump and cheer for her, but at the same time, I'm slightly heartbroken to think of the painful experiences she's gone through to gain that knowledge, and the lonely time she must have endured to become THE Seo Hye Jin that "everyone wants a piece of" and that "everyone's afraid of".

In fact, maybe she can open up to Jun Ho because of the very fact that he was by her side when she was struggling and most vulnerable.

I think Cheong-mi is a more pragmatic and thick-skinned version of Hye Jin (in a good way, I mean), and I'm speculating that she'd make a great academic administrator (maybe as Vice President)!

My favourite line was also from Cheong-mi, when she told Jun Ho that "in the interests of world peace, I think it's better if I tell people about Hye Jin being sick ..." (I mean, how're you planning to explain it?!)

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The show is so slow and deliberate but not everyone likes that. The show is polarising on mdl where many find the it boring. Like guys it gives it a bit of realism but each their own. JRW is so pretty. What the hell was going on in that scene with the Grey haired witch and the assistant why was he so pleased at getting the kid to sign on the paper lol.

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That scene was really hard to watch. Clearly, the assistant thought he had done something that his boss would appreciate, but in the end, she was angry at his disrespect towards the student and probably embarrassed that he didn't keep up the professional facade she wants to be firmly in place at all times. It was a petty move on the assistant's part no doubt, but his relationship with GW is borderline abusive. It was like she was taking out her frustration with the student and the situation on her subordinate, and the implication there was that she did so because she knows she can or because she sees his role and purpose in this demeaning way. I admire some of the things about her character, but she definitely has a cruel side to her personality.

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I enjoyed these episodes as much as everyone so I don’t have much to add. I loved reading all your comments. Only, I did feel Jun-ho was a little pushy at times but then the push for romance had to come from him or it would be too uncomfortable given she’s his senior. And I suppose making her less experienced in dating (vs her teaching expertise) sort of evened the field. And her taking the initiative to spend more time with him in the end helped balance it all out. They’re in this together.

I’m just a little stressed beanies. I kept thinking they’re going to get caught. I definitely have angst trauma thanks this PD. 😂

BTW Is it the norm to get an IV after a hangover in SK.

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With you on the stress level given PD's previous work, it's a guessing game which way it will play out as there a quite a few options to how the angst will rain down. I agree that Jun-ho was a wee bit pushy however I find that in all the noona romances I've watched it is the puppyish younger man who takes the initiative. I presume the reasoning behind this is that they do not want, rightly or wrongly, the older woman look predatory...heaven forbid!

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Hmm. Does a quick mental survey of noona romances. I think you’re right about men taking the lead in noona romances. And you probably are right about the reasoning. Hmm. Sits a little uncomfortable. Tho that’s often also the case when the men in dramas are older, no? Sort of a gender norm (unfortunately).

And shall we share an umbrella to protect us from the upcoming angst storm? Preferably a red one? 😂

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you read my mind!

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I thought you’d changed your profile pic to a bottle of milk in honor of the drama. But it’s a blue soju bottle, isn’t it? 😊

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@indyfan well spotted!😉

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Oh, this is a fair point... Let me immediately pencil that down and write a fanfic where the noona makes the first move (I feel I h ave to mention it: a legal move on a younger but yet old-enough man)

Actually, scrap that, it's Pride Month. Let me make the noona an unni (I struggle with romanised Hangeul... should I spell it oenni? Is it noona or nunna?)

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eonni is how a female addresses an older sister or woman closer in age but still older and noona (or nuna is also okay) is how a male addresses an older sister

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Hence the Pride Month comment. :)

I still struggle with romanising any Korean word though. Why do we even bother agreeing on any romanised spelling when Hangeul uses a completely different alphabet anyway? Shouldn't any romanised spelling be deemed correct enough given they are all incorrect anyway? It's even worse for people's names! Argh

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@cecee here is link to a sad story about a transgender soldier from today's Korea Herald....Pride Month shows that we have come a long way but so much still needs to be addressed for past wrongs and the very real difficulties that so many individuals still face every day. 🏳️‍🌈

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It could be a variant on @ceciliedk fanfic for TAF if the drama doesn’t go there.

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It seems to me they get IV for anything. And medicine.

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I'm starting to love the writing and directing on this show. It "gets" women: whether it's a work or love rivalry, or a friendship, or our desire- it's so realistic and layered.

The director really knows the feminine mind. I noticed it in One Spring Night as well- both FL and ML were surrounded by wonderfully written, strong, women, whether it was her sister and friends, or his pharmacy colleagues. It was so completely true to life and showed women uplifting women- we don't always bitch or backbite the way shows would like people to believe!!

The scene between Hye Jin and her friend, I felt I was with my BFFs- how we get drunk when we do all meet, and slowly the conversation turns personal, maybe nsfw even, after a couple of drinks haha, and we know that no matter what, we all have each other's back 🥹

Of course, the chemistry between the leads is off the charts phew- can literally feel that heady rush of a new relationship. It's adult and giddy at the same time. Both Wi Ha Joon and Jung Ryeo Won are acing it.

I'm bracing for the angst and politics to follow, but I hope the main characters stay on track for each other through all of it.

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There were so many great scenes this week: Hye-jin and the Director at lunch when he brought up her brother and she responded with controlled yet extremely effective disdain; Junho confessing back at the office and Hye-Jin going from holding back to giving in to pushing him away in the span of one kiss; and Si-woo asking the Grey Witch's assistant for a receipt and the assistant's petty power play in response. The writing here is top-notch, but it's the lived-in feel of the directing that gets me.

It's a small thing, but I like the way that things that look like actor mistakes are not edited out--for example, in the scene where Junho is about to tell his parents he's moving, he briefly drops and picks up a towel or something. The actual action of dropping and picking up the object has no real purpose and again, could just have been a mistake, but because it stays in the scene, it lends even further realism to the show.

It also occurred to me that in all of the PD's shows that I've seen, the FL is the one who tends to be the more uncertain or conflicted one, and as such, the dynamic becomes about her making the decision about whether or not to go forward. I don't necessarily like using the term "power" here, but in some ways, in the early stages, the woman seems to be the one with the power to determine the couple's future with the ML having to react to her choices and actions rather than the other way around. This dynamic then gradually evens out as time goes on. In "Secret Love Affair," the FL is the one who is married, and even though her much younger ML is All In from Day One, she needs time to decide that this relationship is what she wants, and that she's ready to get out of her marriage and life as she knows it. In "One Spring Night," the ML is again All In from Day One, but the FL needs to be persuaded to start another relationship so soon after getting out of her previous one, and also to take on all the intense societal judgement that will come from dating a single father.

Here, it's clear that Junho has been in love with Hye-Jin from almost his first moments with her, and thus he's also All In from Day One, and sees no real obstacles to their pairing. Hye-Jin, in contrast, is much more trepidatious and clearly dictating the terms of their relationship, including whether or not it can even start.

There's something about this dynamic that I obviously love or I wouldn't be such a fan of all these dramas. But in this set of episodes I was starting to feel bad for Junho being so open and vulnerable only to be dismissed or ignored by Hye-Jin, even though it's obvious to him and us that she does have feelings for him, too. Yet I shouldn't have doubted the writing here because everything came together in ep. 8 and allowed us to understand Hye-Jin and her hesitation more completely.

This is such a good show!

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The realistic scenes and the romance are soooo good. I love the real and vulnerable friendship scene. I liked that Hye Jin's friend could tell something was up and knew the questions to ask. They truly looked like close friends. I liked that they were talking about adult things too.

I was initially worried about Chung Mi. How ambitious or thirsty she would be for success. I'm glad she's shrewd and grabs opportunities, but hasn't been underhanded or manipulative. I wonder if things will change, but for now, she's been fine.

I love that Shi Woo is always questioning things instead of meekly accepting information or instructions like from Ki Sung. He was smart in getting the receipt (AND the signature lol!). Made me smile. Then Ki Sung was so petty.

The romance in the new, blissful stage is lovely. I like the giddy kisses plus hugs! It all looks natural and sweet.

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junho is my least favorite character in the drama and I really dont like how he was a bit pushy and obtuse not trying to hide his feelings and relationship when hyejin has said again and again they can't be seen together (I think we all expect his friend to tell the news to his mom eventually and then the whole academy will know). also, I particularly dislike the "I lost my patience" type of line in any romantic context so that was just a cherry on the cake of my annoyance with him lol my main problem is that I just don't see why this guy, who never taught a single class, got a competitive position at a top academy. sometimes the drama acts as if he's a smart kid who didnt like to study and sometimes they act as if he's kind of mediocre but his hard work, together with HJ, took him to a top college. he doesn't have a personality at all. and, it pains me to say this, I think WHJ is a bit miscast. someone said in a previous post that he fits more suave, enigmatic characters, and I agree. I think junho should be a more boyish actor? like a jung haein for example.

Despite Junho, I like the rest of the drama.
I don't like the idea that HJ already felt things for junho when they were younger so I will take everything she said about him while drunk as him just being an important person who was there for her during a hard time. that's it.

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I couldn’t believe he told his friend! HJ had stressed how much they had to lose (and most especially her). 🤦🏾‍♀️ It felt like such an immature boasting moment btwn bros (tho I suppose it could also be interpreted as him being unable to contain his boyish enthusiasm). I also want to see more layers and depth to his character. It is a little one note (tho I am enjoying that single note :). Or perhaps this is deliberate and it will contribute to the incoming angst.

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I didn't see it as a boasting moment though, I saw it the same way as Hye Jin talking to her lawyer friend about Jun Ho. It's because the relationship is significant and something joyous/important to be shared with their closest friends. The secrecy is about work related people, or else Hye Jin would not have told her friend about it either.

Lmao, that said, I definitely think Jun Ho forgot that his friend's mom works at the academy. I don't know if that will come back to bite them in the ass, but I'm assuming the friend's mom with new academy dreams will be an ally rather than a thorn so it might be an unfounded concern.

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You’re right. She also spoke of it to her friend. But the conversation between the women and the men felt so qualitatively different to me. I will not essentialize them based on gender, however.

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iirc the drama had made an earlier point that this friend always tells his mom stuff? or it was the other way around? but there was a dialogue or piece of information the drama made circulate between families bcs of them so I think him sharing this with this guy will bit them in the ass somehow

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It seems like they've been friends for a while and the families know each other too, so I can't imagine it won't happen at some point. The mom was the one who knew about Jun Ho first though and then asked her son about it, doesn't seem like the friend told her about Jun Ho becoming a teacher before he showed up at the academy, even though he knew earlier than her.

Ultimately, it just matters if the friend's mom likes Hye Jin/wants her around for her academy or is more into the office politics side if she does find out about the relationship first through either her son or Jun Ho's family.

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@Relisher tbh I don't really thing she would talk about it in the office, but I can see her opening her mouth for junho's mom, for example, just to annoy her a bit lol the drama has implied there was some type of friendly rivalry between them iirc lol

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I agree with you about Junho. I find his behavior very unappealing. Of course, the show doesn't have the luxury of time, so maybe they couldn't show the tutor-pupil relationship shift more gradually and organically. But still he comes off as somewhat predatory, especially with the "I can't hold back" "I can't be patient anymore." There even is the sense that he went into the job simply to pursue her.

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the drama does a good job in fleshing out hyejin, we can understand where she's at in life, her motivations, doubts, goals. its really well done imo, even if they didnt show a lot of her younger self. but with junho... he really feels like a plot device and while this is not a problem itself - I could 100% enjoy a hyejin centric drama - it doesnt help in feeling the romance, the cute and the upcoming angst. even his whole thing about making his own money, getting away from his parents wings.. I feel like it could have been more developed. we could have had less grey witch whatevr her name scenes and more for this part of junho. he just talked about this at the first ep, got into a new job and its 100% dedicated to charm his first love. he doesnt even look that interested in being a a top instructor and make a lot of money (if he was, he wouldnt let go the chance of getting her classes when she was sick lol)

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Again, I agree with you about Hyejin--although, while I truly appreciated her prioritizing her career over romance, and therefore not ever having a serious relationship, it would have been more realistic to me if she had casually dated over the years, or even had an on and off relationship with a more ardent suitor. I'm not arguing for a love triangle, heaven forbid!, but rather for just making her out to be a little less someone who had always obsessed over Junho, and also someone who surprised herself by the romantic or passionate feelings that arose between them.

As far as Junho what I would really have appreciated, and what would have increased my sympathy for the relationship, is to make him less glib and sure of himself. The conflict with the parents could have been a point where he really questioned whether this was the right move, instead of showing his Dad as a villain only worried about money and status. Or, what I would also have appreciated for its realism, is showing just a moment of him really struggling in front of the classroom as a first-time teacher, stumbling a little bit in knowing the subject, showing students bored, etc.

Than he could have turned more to Hyejin for present day advice, and that might have been an occasion for growing romance between them. Instead, its "I already am an expert--I'll kiss you now."

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Uh oh! My eagerness for this show dropped to near zero! I hate noona romances with pushy impatient male leads.

I wasn't expecting to like an Ahn Pan Suk drama, but as the writer is different this time I was staying positive. Now I guess it's a drop even before starting...

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I went and looked at a few online clips. Definitely a pass. This couple isn't for me. No hope for any future APS drama.

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someone could say he just has a lot of youth in himself LOL but he does come off like impatient to me. I only have myself to blame for this to be honest bcs for whatever reason I thought he would be like a competitor to her in the academy world - the pupil surparssing the master - or at least he would already be an instructor before they get together for work and then develop things further. the main point being: he might have decided to become an instructor bcs of his influence on him, but already had established a career before they are reunited.

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As someone who hates pushy male leads in kdramas in general, I will say that your mileage may vary here because I think their dynamic is generally pretty great.

I think there are a couple of lines that I could have done without, especially the I have lost my patience one the last episode, but to me, it always comes down to how the female lead's character is and how the scene plays out between them. That can change a ml being obnoxious to a chemistry with push and pull with equally enthusiastic participants who just have different personalities, which this one is to me. Jun Ho is more extroverted and frank, Hye Jin is more introspective and reserved, but she isn't just being pushed around into something she doesn't want.

Hye Jin was hesitant because in her mind he was her student despite that being 10 years ago and she wasn't sure she could shift that perspective, but by the time most of the overt stuff happened, she was already into it, so imo it's not the same as a man always crossing boundaries and the woman just letting him do whatever until she's stockholmed into feeling it's romantic.

Like I said, it's totally valid if that is not what it comes across to someone else, I've definitely dropped dramas where the ml turned me off fully, but just my pov on this one.

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Thank you for your explanation.

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I have a different perspective on Junho and his actions towards Hye-jin.

He's clearly ardently pursuing her and I can see how that might read to some as pushy. But in the context of their whole dynamic, I see it more as him responding to what she's *not* doing and saying. That is, he's said several times some version of "I want to know your feelings for me, not what you think I really want or need." He has been honest about his sincere emotions, and so he wants her to articulate her feelings. He's also basically said that if she doesn't have feelings for him, he'll back off. But she doesn't say that! Instead, she deflects or runs away or just completely ignores what he's saying so she doesn't have to give him a direct answer. That's the behavior about which he has lost patience, and I totally get that. When you try to pin someone down after confessing your heart and soul to them and they simply won't be direct with you, it's frustrating.

At the same time, Hye-Jin has reacted to Junho in a way that shows she *does* have feelings for him: she kissed him back for one. So I can absolutely see why Junho wants to get an answer from her that doesn't involve external issues (the age difference, their past, their current professional situation) because he believes all of those things are less important than the only thing that really matters: whether she returns his love or not. To me, that doesn't read as pushy, but as someone who knows what he wants, suspects the person he loves wants the same thing, and therefore is ready to address obstacles head-on as a couple.

As far as the actors go, I like both of them here, but sometimes I do imagine that another pairing might have been equally good or even better. This isn't for me a case then where I can *only* imagine these actors playing these characters (whereas with "LR," for example, I truly cannot imagine any other actors playing Sun Jae or Sol). But that said, I'm enjoying what we have here and don't personally feel either actor was miscast. I will concede, however, that WHJ probably wouldn't be the best choice for a romcom, but another melo romance would be fine.

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I think you make a lot of excellent points and that is also why I find the dynamic lovely and interestingly balanced instead of pushy man and longsuffering woman that is a feature in a not insubstantial number of dramas, and that has kept me away from a lot of kdramas considered "classics".

However, I must wave a flag for WHJ as Jun Ho, lol. As someone who has bemoaned the enigmatic gray character whose most common accessory is blood that he enjoys playing majority of the time, I longed to see him in something sweeter with a solid actress who would instead play the relatively more grounded and realistic foil to him. I loved Jung Hae In in One Spring Night, which is somewhat similar in pace/realism/storytelling styles, but I feel like because WHJ is almost playing against type and the character role is younger, he's bringing a fun, mischievous spark to Jun Ho that a softer/sweeter actor might not. Ofc, someone else might have done the same too, but I'm enjoying him here and feel like he's holding his own even with someone as good as Ryeo Won.

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I wonder if some of the WHJ-as-Junho hesitation some have stems from the fact that he mostly plays that "enigmatic gray character" - like, we're so used to seeing that from this actor, that we feel unsettled, like we can't just trust Junho as he's presented to us because there might be another layer that's less good for Hye Jin.

For instance, when I saw the mom in SITR on staff at the hagwon, I thought, "Oh no!" and instinctively braced myself. I've had to almost consciously tell myself that this is a different person, her character, and this one won't shriek and abuse. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Lmao, it's funny because in true APS fashion, he reused a lot of his cast, and this actress played a very nice mom for the fl in One Spring Night, so since that was my later exposure to her in an APS drama, I assumed she could be playing a nice character here too.

Re: WHJ, it's possible. It's a shame he hasn't had as many non-gray roles, mostly bcs his smile is genuinely very nice, but he's definitely working for me here. Of course, Lee Musaeng is another actor who keeps playing gray or full dirtbags and who I keep wanting to see in a nicer role, so I have some extensive experience with actor habit-breaking wish fulfillment dreaming XD

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thank you for your point!
as I said in another comment, I think I'm a victim of my own idea of what this drama - especially junho - would be. I love WHJ and I think he can do romance, slice of life just fine, he's a great actor. I just dont feel like he's the junho the drama wants us to see.

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Couldn’t agree more with what everyone’s already said, so just a few comments:

I loved learning that a more accurate screen name for Jun-ho on Hye-jin’s phone would have been “My pride and joy.” The reveal that he had as much impact on her life as she did on his does a lot to elevate their past history beyond trite teacher-student crush. How many times have I watched the way her expression slowly changes as she sees his text? 😳

Chung-mi has experienced school and office politics before arriving at this hagwon. As such, I appreciate that she’s not one to dive into gossip and backstabbing, but has taken time to get the measure of her coworkers and treat them accordingly. I don’t think she’ll be easily manipulated by the directors, either.

The smiles that Hye-jin and Jun-ho give each other are different from the ones they show to the rest of the world. How could they not fall in love?

I know the angst is coming, but I hope our leads choose to face it together.

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Hmm. I was less enthused with these episodes.

Mind you, with dramas in general, I tend to love the slow burn, the build up, THE confession scene, but I lose interest once the protagonists start dating. Why? I'm not sure, but I will say that I don't like when there's no character development, no community in people's lives (apart from 1-2 placeholder friends who have little screen time). It's just... romance. Now I want to see more of the other stuff! I want to see Si Woo, Hye Jin's passion for teaching, a critique of these systems...

I sort of have an idea of who Hye Jin is, her personality, her character, her values. I love that she loves herself. But I have no idea who Jun Ho is. None. He's just... charming. And he likes money. Ok. Why would I be invested in their romance if I don't know who they are? The story is cute, yes. But I don't know these people. And I wish they had community (rather than being so centered on one person). I did think the scene with the friend was nice though.

I do like that they finally gave Hye Jin's point of view. I wanted to know her feelings and where she stands. Finally, I see her side of the story.
I do think Jun Ho is pushy too. Meh.

I'm still interested in where the story goes.

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You're not alone; I've always felt this way whenever a drama goes full force on the romance. I'm willing to sit trough obstacles, broken hearts and all. But the moment those things go away, this usually where I start to use ff button.

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Yeah, I can't really explain it. I like the tension and the development of it all beforehand. I like to swoon with confession scenes. But once they start dating, it's like it all dissipates. Oh... now they're smiley-smiley and kissing and kissing... ok. Another date. More kissing... I lose interest. Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely turned off, it's just something I notice with dramas. Glad I'm not alone! I like the way you worded it- full force on the romance. Yes! It can be too much.

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It seems we're minority about it. I was happy knowing I'm not alone, though.😀

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The show seems to be trying to make the vice president a villain, just for the sake of giving us someone to dislike. Because even when the Grey Queen loses her sh*t we sympathize with her. (At least I do because I LOVE HER.) So this vice president, who seemed like a throw-away side character we know nothing about or care about, suddenly starts disliking Hyejin? For what.

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Ep 8 particularly where FL opens up to her friend reminds me why I like JRW' acting.

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The song at the end of ep 7 when she meets her friend at the cafe is Hollywood, by The Black Skirts- in case anyone else liked it too :)

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I do, too! Yay, a Korean ost. 😂

The indie vibes of the music often remind me of some of the OST from "Age Of Youth." This is the same music director ( Lee Nam-yoon) who did the music for "AOY 1 &2" and most of Ahn Pan-seok dramas. The production Drama House is a subsidiary of JTBC Studios, and Ahn Pan-seok is co-CEO. When he is not directing a drama, he works with his crew behind the scenes to produce dramas like Age of Youth, At EIghteen, Empire of Gold, Painter of the Wind, Sky Castle, Mystic Pop-up Bar, etc.

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Is the Gray Witch an actual witch and her secretary some form of a daywalker like vampires have? I am sure there will be a scene where she is shown stirring students' blood with a big paddle in a cauldron.

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Nice.
I just hope the passcode giving to him is not a kind of cliche.
😀

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This is my fave right now. The scenes and characters feel so raw and realistic, and the acting is so real, the chemistry amazing. I liked the way the romance was built (they are so freaking cute) and I so undersand Hye Jin; when she cried I felt it. Now, I am unbelievably concerned about them being find out and somehow I can't trust Min Ji: friend or foe? Can't wait for the weekend!

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I meang Chung-mi, not Min-Ji!

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