Love Song for Illusion: Episode 1 (First Impressions)
by missvictrix
Campy, watchable, and somewhat all over the place, I’d say webtoon adaptation Love Song for Illusion has two major things going for it right now: Park Ji-hoon (x2) and some really fun cinematography. If it can play those cards well, it might be able to rein itself in and lean into its strengths.
Editor’s note: This is an Episode 1 review only. For a place to chat about the entire drama, visit the Drama Hangout.
EPISODE 1
The first episode of Love Song for Illusion moves at the speed of light, so it’s hard to get bored. It’s also pretty and has some gravity-defying martial arts and dance sequences that are fun to watch. But the drama also has an underlying campy tone that I can only describe as “made for TV” — it’s not bad, per se, but it’s like the drama wants to go all the way to 100%, but something’s keeping it in the 70% range. Now, I love campy, not-fully-baked productions just as much as the next girl, so this will either become the drama’s charm, or its downfall.
We open the story with our hero SAJO HYUN (later played by Park Ji-hoon) who just wants to sit in his room and peacefully paint hanbok designs. His father SAJO SEUNG (Kim Tae-woo) of the Sajo faction won’t have any of that, though. After a bloody beating, he drags this young and precious boy to witness mass carnage and orders an underling to actually hold the boy’s head so he’s forced to witness the slaughter of the entire Yeon faction. You know, as one usually does with their ten-year-old heirs.
This Yeon family slaughter effectively makes Sajo Seung into the “king,” and his rule begins forthwith. He laughs that after witnessing all this, Sajo Hyun “will become a man today,” but what actually happens is quite different. First, the little girl of the Yeon family – about his age — manages to escape, thanks to her parents’ sacrifice and Sajo Hyun’s help. She’s YEON WOL (later played by Hong Ye-ji), and if this doesn’t set up a future vengeance scheme, nothing will.
The second outcome of the slaughter, though, is that Sajo Hyun is eerily pursued by some creepy black smoke. I’m reading into the scene here, but I’d say that eerie essence of evil is what penetrates him and causes him to develop a split personality disorder. Next, we jump ten years into the future.
It doesn’t take long for our heroes to cross paths again after this time jump. Yeon Wol has become GYERA: a beautiful and highly trained assassin who’s part of a dance troupe. The dancers go into important locations for entertainment, distracting lustful watchers with their beautiful moves and outfits, and then Gyera completes her various missions.
This whole dance troupe thing is actually one of the strengths of the drama because the dances are shot so beautifully. Anachronistic? Well, yes, but it was fun to watch Gyera dancing and then leaping all over the room like a ninja, trying to escape her pursuers. The outfits that the dancers wear are wonderfully designed and dyed, and that’s what leads Gyera to Sajo Hyun.
The young boy that liked to paint clothes is now doing Top Secret Work at a local drapery, designing and creating gorgeous fashions (much like another rebellious hanbok designer currently on air). The two meet in a bit of a trope reversal: Gyera sneaks in by way of the roof, lands on top of Sajo Hyun, and proceeds to flutter his heart on repeat. Is it the comfortable way she touches him, guesses his family’s disapproval of his sewing, or sees into his heart? Maybe it’s all three; either way, there’s romance in the air.
Meanwhile, Sajo Hyun’s life at home is unpleasant to say the least. His father has become even more of a despot, and as for Sajo Hyun, he’s a crown prince that lives under constant derision and mockery. He’s not manly enough (i.e., why don’t you want to kill and carouse?) — but he’s also got this pesky “madness” thing going on. You see, he sometimes switches into a counterpart known as AK-HEE (also Park Ji-hoon), who has an impish grin and the confidence and charm that the quiet Sajo Hyun lacks.
As of yet, the switch between the personalities is mostly unexplained and most of the palace charades — which play into it – are a bit hard to follow. The drama moves so quickly working to establish the tension within the palace that the actual emotional core — and the time to get invested in these politics – is missing. Still, I care about Sajo Hyun because Park Ji-hoon sells him to me. And I like the dynamic that’s being built around Ak-hee as a personality compensation of sorts, so I’m interested enough to see how his two sides impact him and his relationships.
With no time to waste (plot on the move!), Gyera and her troupe head to the king’s chambers where she’s counting on him “choosing her” as his night’s companion after the dance, since she’s acknowledged as the prettiest dancer. However, he winds up choosing a different girl. WHOMP WHOMP.
Things move very fast and we don’t see the switcheroo happen, but sure enough, Gyera finds a way to get in the steamy bathtub instead of the other dancer. She’s ready with dagger in hand, but it’s Sajo Hyun that turns up in the chamber instead. Oh, and there’s some sort of drug in the air that causes Gyera to pass out. And lose all her memories. Because when Gyera wakes up four days later, she’s told she’s now CONSORT HYO. She doesn’t have a second to process what’s just happened when Sajo Hyun busts in with this entourage and embraces her as the episode closes: “Finally, you’re my woman.”
Too fast, Show, too fast! I understand the drama has ground to cover, but with our heroine already transformed from dancing assassin to amnesiac concubine, I’m left reeling and feeling disconnected. Also, while I want to feel the tension of Sajo Hyun saving her from his father (because GROSS!), the two characters haven’t interacted enough — or I haven’t spent enough time with them yet — for me to really feel anything.
In sum, things feel a bit flat by the time we reach the ending of the episode. Still, it’s not so flat for me to declare it an absolute loss. Park Ji-hoon is fun here and he embodies the world quite well; the problem is that said world is not very well established. As a consequence, I don’t know what the rules of the story are, or what to expect in terms of tone. It’s almost like it wants to be swoony, thrilling, raunchy, and epic all at the same time, but can’t decide how to balance all those things. Let’s hope Episode 2 tightens up, because there’s potential for a campilicious ride here.
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Tags: First Impressions, Hong Ye-ji, Hwang Hee, Ji-woo, Kim Tae-woo, Love Song for Illusion, Park Ji-hoon
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1 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 4, 2024 at 10:50 AM
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2 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 4, 2024 at 10:53 AM
You'd think they'd learn... NOBODY in kdramaland ever manages to exterminate a whole family without leaving a young survivor to grow up and seek revenge.
And speaking of... revenge, damnesia, split personalities, hanbok designer... trope salad designed to keep you awake.
FWIW, I didn't like the hanbok designer bit in Jang Ok Jung, Live for Love 10 years ago and it doesn't improve with age, although it seems to improve with marriage arrangements, so there's hope :)
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3 Kurama
January 4, 2024 at 10:54 AM
I'm the opposite, Park Ji-Hoon is a part of why I don't like it. I can't help myself to see him as a pretty boy. I don't find him charismatic at all. But it's on me, he's not a bad actor. So he was cute as the designer who loves his art but he's not Yeo Jin-Goo who can change in a despot like he wants.
The switch of personality is not clear, how it happened, who knows, can he control it?
I wonder why they always described the FL as an assassin and we never see her killing! She looks more like a mercenary. And she's not so good because he guessed so easily her job and she can't recognize poison in the air?
She worked with Hwang Hee to kill the King. I wonder how they will work the 3 of them.
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emsel
January 5, 2024 at 4:39 AM
but he's not Yeo Jin-Goo who can change in a despot like he wants.
Probably, why I am dropping this because YJG was so convincing in the "Crowned Clown" and that performance is still in my memory even though I don't do rewatches.
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Kurama
January 5, 2024 at 5:41 AM
It's still one of my favourite role for YJG!
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fara
January 5, 2024 at 7:01 AM
But the reason why he called her an assassin was because he was mad that she treated his 'baby' aka. the dress badly? I'm pretty sure that's why. He didn't guess her actual profession. And yeah, Yeo Jin Goo was incredible with his role, but I still couldn't finish TCC for some reason.
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 10:45 AM
I skipped around The Crowded clown.
I figured he assumed she was an assassin by the state of her clothes and probably assassins/mercenaries are common enough, especially given his position of a royal, that would be a valid option
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4 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 4, 2024 at 11:39 AM
*raises eyebrows through the roof*
I cannot think of a single part of this that was good.
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The editing and directing is choppy and jumps all over the screen.
The villains are cartoonish, and seem to think screaming or laughing madly is all that’s needed to make you interesting.
The plot set up was janky and unbelievable, not the least because characters acted incredibly stupidly out of necessity for said set up to happen.
The young leading cast, is, as predicted, green, and miscast. They neither of them have any screen presence here, and their acting is very one note.
I personally found their scenes together awkward, lacking chemistry and boring to watch.
None of the rest of the cast is selling it for me either, and their delivery and lines feel over rehearsed.
The dialogue is tacky too. For example, why is a child spontaneously giving the villain a Curse Monologue? I know why, it’s because she’s the Main Character, and it is trying to set up her desire for revenge, but it feels unnatural; the result feels like a bad stage play of what the actual story is supposed to be. And you don’t NEED a Curse Monologue to set that up. It’s reminiscent of another flaw of the show, that rears its head in dialogue elsewhere: that of overwrought exposition, a lack of subtlety, and telling not showing.
The fight choreo is bad, even for this genre. (I also can’t help but feeling that Jian would work better than ever popular curved hwando. I know it’s a fantasy so historic timing doesn’t matter; I just think Jian would look aesthetically and stylistically better here. Then again, with this choreo, they would likely butcher the swordplay even more with Jian, so, probably a good thing.)
She’s a terrible assassin and gives all the rest of us assassins a bad name. For shame!
The whole DID/Possessed by the Manifestation of my Trauma/Sudden Curse/Whatever the everloving shit is going on there is both very poorly set up, and terribly executed: His other identity kidnapped her, wiped her memory, and made her his concubine to show her how “sincere” he is… If I’m already questioning the need for something to exist, you’ve failed somewhere. Multiple somewheres, in this instance.
The costuming was awful and cheap – why Korea still hasn’t figured out good wigs yet idk. And why does Hwang Hee get any kind of wig, and the ML just extensions? Ironic, for a ML that is supposed to be a dressmaker/tailor.
The design of the show, as well as the worldbuilding, mainly political and logistical, seems very poorly thought-out.
I don’t care about anyone. The background plot is a dime a dozen these days, and a bad example of its kind. None of the emotional beats land because they’re too obvious, too over the top, and badly acted; I don’t care if this is supposed to be some moving story and the ML is supposed to be tragic, because it’s just doing a shitty job of telling that, with bad tropes.
I honestly don’t care about...
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM
... the webtoon either, the show isn’t doing its source material any favours so far, and said source material already had all the same red flags that I had about this show in the first place (red flags that were well warranted as it turns out).
It was both as bad as I expected and somehow still worse. I guess I can cross Predicted Trainwreck off my 2024 Kdrama Bingo already, woopee.
And remember it’s not “Suspension of Disbelief” in a story you should be looking for – if you’re suspending anything, the story has already failed its task. It’s convincing secondary belief that a story seeks to build as its duty.
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OldLawyer
January 5, 2024 at 10:34 AM
Once again Her Majesty has done us all a real favor.
Thank you for taking the time to do a thorough job.
Unless I get extremely bored and feel a real need to do a hate watch I will likely skip this show. I can always change my mind later if the show improves.
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kiara
January 5, 2024 at 12:48 PM
*raises eyebrows through the roof*
Thank you! Pass. I wasn't going to watch it anyway.
Where the heck is Jin-goo and Nam Da-reum?
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Gikata
January 5, 2024 at 1:29 PM
Someone below mentioned YSH... now THAT I'd surely give a chance!
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bomibeans
January 5, 2024 at 5:25 PM
Uuukay, so now my question is, Is it so bad it’s so good? Or is it so bad it’s so bad? 🤔
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 5, 2024 at 8:28 PM
The latter.
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cjoyce17
January 14, 2024 at 10:23 PM
lmao I actually didn't finish reading all that you just wrote but I guess from what I read we have really different opinion about this drama. You seemed to really dislike this a lot while I enjoyed the first episode since I just started watching it. I have never watched any of Park Jihoons drama well aside from 1 episode of Weak Hero and I think he's doing a great job here. It's enjoyable to watch so far as for my own opinion
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5 Scottie
January 4, 2024 at 11:50 AM
For me this drama is a new low. Clearly a nod towards C-drama where, I did not know this before, split personality is a common theme. The crown prince, suffering from this condition, is a skilled tailor with soft hands for a few days, but also a great swordsman for the rest of the days. All these sword games should make calloused hands! Add to that a few pretty dancers/assassins, prey for a horny, evil king!
Well, I am out! The cast is good, they could do so much better.
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indyfan
January 4, 2024 at 5:23 PM
It definitely gave me C-drama vibes as well, but with a K aesthetic.
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Isa is always time travelling
January 4, 2024 at 5:35 PM
I thought the same. C-dramas influence is noticeable.
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Areesha aasif
January 8, 2024 at 12:31 PM
I don't think they ever mentioned that Akhee was active every time. They clearly said it has been a while that the crown prince didn't attend hunting. Clearly Akhee probably isn't active in fighting all the time, hence why the soft hands. Also, if you are skilled, wouldn't that mean less rough hands ?!
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6 Kitsune Moon
January 4, 2024 at 11:54 AM
Park Ji Hoon is Gong Yoo with a babyfilter on, you can't unsee it.
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emsel
January 5, 2024 at 4:31 AM
I don't know... to me he has some similarities with Yoo Seung Ho.
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Kitsune Moon
January 7, 2024 at 5:07 AM
yeah, i see it in the eyebrows and pouty lips!
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7 LaurenSophie
January 4, 2024 at 1:30 PM
Sajo Hyun is definitely an interesting character but as I said elsewhere, despite the fact that he's doing well in the role, not being a Park Ji-hoon fan makes it harder for me to really get into this drama. It's better than I thought it would be, though, so that's something!
I didn't think the evil spirit angle was at all necessary considering the fact that boy has suffered enough psychological trauma to develop disassociative identity disorder several times over. But I guess that makes it easier to resolve it down the road.
I agree that the dancing and the fast pace make this very watchable Overall, the drama is a mash-up of old school tropes with modern (and sometimes gimmicky) direction, editing, and cinematography, and that's not boring. At the same time, I'm not really feeling the romance (again, this is likely a me problem due to my dislike of PJH in romantic roles), and disliked the amnesiac twist (which I didn't think was necessary to advance the story). So, jury's out.
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8 Isa is always time travelling
January 4, 2024 at 4:39 PM
I guess I'm alone in this but I like this first episode!
It's so bizarre in many ways... but I didn't get bored for a second.
I think Park Ji Hoon is a very talented actor (I liked him in At a distance... and loved him in Weak Hero Class 1), PDnim directed some good dramas (King of Baking, Healer...) and the screenwriter wrote one of my favorite shows, Girls Generation 1979.
I liked the background music too.
So I have hope on this.
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greenfields
January 4, 2024 at 7:47 PM
You’re not alone. I found the first episode really fun too. And I also think of Park Jihoon as a surprisingly good actor? I watched Weak Class Hero a few weeks ago - my first time watching him act - and was surprised by how good he is. Couldn’t get through the whole show (too violent) but definitely see his potential to be more than just a pretty boy.
GG1979 is one of my all time favorite shows too, did not realize it’s the same writer.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
January 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM
Good to see you back in the comments.
Girls’ Generation 1979 is a stand out drama I loved the opening scene❤️. The contrast between the two dads’ treatment of their respective daughters, the things some teachers thought were acceptable and the impact of the conflict between North and South Korea on daily living made for an interesting watch.
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greenfields
January 5, 2024 at 2:24 AM
Thanks! ☺️
Also for the lovely comment on GG1979. It’s making me want to rewatch though sadly one of the storylines is now forever ruined by the actor’s real life actions.
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Midnight
January 5, 2024 at 2:41 AM
Greenfields! I thought my eyes are tricking me! Good to see you back!
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greenfields
January 5, 2024 at 8:37 PM
Haha! Hi Midnight! ☺️☺️ Yes - I had a multi year drama slump (3-4 years??) but recently got back into them with a vengeance! So I’m back. Hope all has been well!!
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OldLawyer
January 5, 2024 at 10:36 AM
Welcome back. We missed you.
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greenfields
January 5, 2024 at 8:40 PM
Thank you! ☺️ I’ve missed this community too!
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Peridot
January 6, 2024 at 8:16 AM
I haven't been able to check out this drama (I don't have a viki subscription), but I do agree that Park Ji-hoon is talented. I liked him in At a Distance, Spring is Green and I think he did a really good job in Weak Class Hero.
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Britney
January 4, 2024 at 11:59 PM
If you're into the show, I hope you'll be posting on the hangout. It would be nice to see the show discussed.
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9 ryunami
January 4, 2024 at 5:07 PM
I must say that this is my first time I heard s*d*my is discussed or mentioned in a kdrama 🙈
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ryunami
January 4, 2024 at 5:22 PM
The fans of the webtoon are not happy with the adaptation. The first episode doesn’t seem to be following the webtoon; the webtoon starts out with such a creepy feeling, this didn't have the same vibe 🤣🤣🤣
In the manhwa Sajo hyun/Akhee is the King and the girl wanted to assassinate him after that sword dance show.
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Isa is always time travelling
January 4, 2024 at 5:37 PM
Interesting. That's a big change. I understand the fans are disappointed.
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ryunami
January 4, 2024 at 6:14 PM
I wonder, if the stepbrother succeed in killing the evil King, the Crown Prince will be the next King, right? Maybe that's when the storyline will get back to the original story like the webtoon.
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 4:42 AM
Fans are unhappy with the adaptation because Sajo Hyun/Ak Hee isn't the king? That's it?
Well, I've been annoyed or irked by a change in an adaptation (even though objectively I could understand it) so I guess I should be more understanding. That being said, so far, I understand the change because it would make it easier to root for Hyun/Ak Hee if there's a big bad who is the reason for both characters' hurt and torment. Technically in the webtoon, Hyun's father is mentioned as the one who gave the order to kill the girl's family but (based on the little that I've seen) he wasn't shown taking part.
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indyfan
January 4, 2024 at 5:26 PM
This was rather risqué compared to the usual K-drama fare. I had to rub my eyes/clear my ears just to be sure. 😂
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ryunami
January 4, 2024 at 6:59 PM
LOL and I had to press the rewind to read the sub clearly 😂
Kdramas are a little bold these days, but it is a good thing especially to their growing minorities, amidst the SK conservative society.
If you watch Goryeo Khitan War, the King, Mokjong, is an openly gay. just like Sajo Seung, Mokjong also is a ruler who enjoys partying and makes his palace a haven for dancing and decadence. I'm expecting Sajo Seung will end up like Mokjong in GKW.
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indyfan
January 4, 2024 at 8:09 PM
It is a good thing. I'm not watching GKW but I did pick that up. Maybe it's more acceptable in fantasy/historical settings? However, at least here, it's not exactly shown in the most positive light.
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Areesha aasif
January 8, 2024 at 12:35 PM
Where exactly was that mentioned ?? I watched both episodes. No such thing yet.
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ryunami
January 9, 2024 at 12:16 AM
In episode 1, after Kyera (in her beautiful red dancing costume) and Ha Rang shake off their pursuers and walk in town, watching a homeless man stealing to feed the poor street children. She blurts out the word while complaining about the incompetent and bad King.
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10 Britney
January 4, 2024 at 11:31 PM
I think I would have to watch this a second, possibly a third time because my first watch just had me going wtf? Haha
First, is this supposed to be comedic because I chuckled every time there was a zoom sound effect when Ak Hee was running. I also chuckled when he seemed to forget how short he (his legs) were and tried to do one of those "cool" blocking with your leg moves (that I think I've only seen in mangas haha) only to clop his foot on the floor haha. Also when he met the girl, she knows him as the drapery guy and that caused him to start stuttering/stammering haha.
I don't know how to put Ak Hee & Sajo Hyun's characteristics into words. For Hyun to be the dominant/primary personality, Ak Hee seems more of the focus. He's the one first became intrigued by the girl, his actions are what led to her being the consort, and he's the one who could most directly challenge the father (from what I understand). Is Hyun's only things to be into designing/making hanbok and being insulted while Ak Hee is the one who can do all the other stuff?
I get why Ak Hee is interested in her but no idea why she would be interested Hyun or Hyun interested in her. I guess that will be shown in the next episode.
This was such an easy watch because it just zips by. The same way the girl is confused by the end of the episode, is somewhat how I felt because you just get so much information and it's like what? Haha
The girl has 3 names (Yeon Wol, Gyera, Consort Hyo) so I don't even know what the call her.
I thought Ak Hee was supposed to be the "bad" guy and Hyun the "good" but then Ak Hee seemed comedic so I thought maybe that's *not* what this is about but then he somehow drugged her and made her his concubine so now I am just so confused what even is this story.
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Isa is always time travelling
January 5, 2024 at 12:12 AM
The episode was fast as lightning, even more after the prologue.
I had to rewatch that scene when he tries to block her way with his leg 😅
I think Park Ji Hoon is going to be great in both personalities.
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fara
January 5, 2024 at 7:17 AM
The drugging part is the red flag of Akhee and also saying 'you will like me now' (he was mad that she thought of him as a fake and preferred the drapery guy aka. Sajo Hyeon over him) shows his possessiveness, it clearly shows the 'fierce obsession' side of Akhee as depicted in the trailer. So now we wait for Sajo Hyun's side. I think we would've gotten both to talk about only if they premiered the first 2 eps on mon-tue instead of only tue this week. Glad we'll be going back to two eps from next week.
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 11:15 AM
I wouldn't say he gave off "mad" (as in angry) vibes but I think it definitely triggered some kind... obsessive need/interest to make her prefer him opposed to Hyun like apparently others seem to (in his preception)
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Gikata
January 5, 2024 at 1:25 PM
Hey, at the very least that's a brilliant way to include angsty love triangle in the plot without spending money on SML actor!)))
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fara
January 5, 2024 at 9:59 PM
I'm pretty sure he'll be paid double (maybe a bit less than that) for his dual-role lol
11 OAsia
January 5, 2024 at 4:23 AM
I liked the first episode. The plot reminded me of historical romances set several centuries ago in Scotland. In which enemies from two clans (or one is Scottish and the other English) are destined to meet each other, although theoretically they should kill each other or stay away from each other. Their love will bring them much evil and only a little good. There is also an element of a split personality, so sometimes the main character will be nice to FL, and sometimes he will surround her with his "courtships". It's as if FL had two men in her life, but was physically one person. Toxic and unhealthy, but fun in the sense that it is something that should not be taken seriously and should not be "used at home". Most importantly, in the case of this drama, it is a Korean drama with young actors who can act.
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fara
January 5, 2024 at 7:05 AM
Can you explain what it means by "should not be used at home"? I didn't understand
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OAsia
January 5, 2024 at 9:20 AM
This means that these types of toxic relationships should not exist in real life. My point was that fiction can be toxic and funny without being taken seriously. But only in fiction.
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12 fara
January 5, 2024 at 7:03 AM
Wait the one who poisoned her and came in front of her after she lost her memories was Akhee though, not Sajo Hyun. It was clearly visible to me.
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13 🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 10:37 AM
Thank you for the recap. As usual you've made it more fun than the actual episode. I guess I'm not the only one getting Moon in the Day vibes.
How (and wae) is the evil guy more fun. Is there a ghostly possession / other supernatural reason for his existence. 😳 And is that his impression of Bateman's cowl.
Really what is with all these entrepreneurs in Joseon engaged in fashion designing.
Are we now getting plot confusion on speed. A drama needs a "setup" in episode 1 but are we getting flash forwards without enough backstory.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 10:39 AM
* Batman's cowl.
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 10:57 AM
"Bateman's cowl" haha
Just made me think of Patrick Bateman of American Psycho who was played by Christian Bale who, of course, played Batman
It all comes together haha
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:21 PM
Bingo! That's exactly what I thought too. Hehe!!
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM
Maybe there's not alot of rebellious options during the Joseon period? Something scandalous but actually harmless, something against social norms but relatable (since people often use fashion has a means of self expression, outward perceptions, etc)? It is interesting that fashion design during Joseon is the choice of the day.
I don't think we had many fast forwards in episode 1.
Maybe 3?
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 5, 2024 at 11:39 AM
This isn't Joseon. Certainly not politically. It's not even historic Korea. It's a fictional fantasy "Korea".
And the fashion choices are also not Joseon. In fact they're not really any one period, or any period at all. There's a jeogori at one point in Hyun's shop, and the swords are Joseon, but nothing anybody is actually wearing is Joseon. His wife and the King's consort are sporting hairstyles are maybe more Goryeo inspired for some reason, and the rest is mostly pretty generically "Asian Fantasy Costume", (I hesitate to even say it's supposed to be Three Kingdoms inspired, it's too inconsistent) but without actually any thought put into it.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:32 PM
Thank you for explaining in such detail. Just on the basis of the dramas I've seen there seemed to be too many inconsistencies. I'm willing to forgive a lot with the calling card of "fantasy" but then at least give me a coherent story or an engrossing one with smartly edited time skips.
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Kitsune Moon
February 1, 2024 at 2:15 PM
THANK YOU. i was wondering what time period it was supposed to be since it's def not Joseon and i hadn't found any info online. i do like fantasy anachronisms in stories that don't take themselves too seriously, like this show.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:28 PM
I like how you've described fashion. It is indeed the greatest outward form of self-expression.
I just think the plot (?) is moving too fast with unexplained time jumps. So the viewing experience is a little jerky. I don't know how much of backstory or just a coherent story we will get (highly doubtful) but a little more time taken to settle into the plot will be much appreciated. 😀
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 1:04 PM
That wasn't my experience. I mean the show moved fast for sure but it was understandable to me. Massacre -> fast forward 10 years -> then about a week from her ripping her clothes, meeting Hyun, meeting Ak Hee, him following & watching her -> another week (give or take) for the assassination attempt -> 4 days after she woke up a consort.
Alot happened in about 2 weeks haha
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 8:34 PM
Ha, ha yes! At least the plot points are set up so now we can proceed - forwards or backwards is to be seen. I'm in for the ride. 😀
ryunami
January 5, 2024 at 11:30 AM
Now that you mentioned it, the fashion designing reminds us of Yeon woo of The Story of Park's Contract Marriage.
The male character sounds like the ML in Kill Me Heal Me, the revenge plot of the drama sounds like Moon In A Day, the ruling families similar to Alchemy of Souls and the female lead reminds me of Our Blooming Youth.
I thought I was going to watch a copy and paste drama.
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Britney
January 5, 2024 at 12:04 PM
I think it's REALLY a bad choice to actively compare all these different shows. It's one thing if you're watching and something reminds you of something but compare it this way is just setting up expectations and disappointment rather than just taking the show as it is.
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ryunami
January 5, 2024 at 12:11 PM
That was my first thought when reading the plot synopsis. I might have changed my mind after watching the first episode like what I wrote in the drama's Premier Watch.
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:53 PM
You're right. If we started comparing similar plot points in various dramas, we may as well stop watching K-dramas which are generally awash with similar plots / themes with other simultaneously airing dramas.
🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:34 PM
I agree ... let us take the drama as-is rather than comparing it with other dramas with similar sounding plot points. 🙄
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🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 12:33 PM
Uh-oh. 🤦♀️
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14 Gikata
January 5, 2024 at 11:06 AM
My tumblr feed had been gushing about this one a lot, so I've read a few posts, including drama and webtoon comparisons... Hmm, looks like one of those stories that turn craziness and angst up to 11 for the sake of it and not to actually make any strong point as result. Nothing wrong with that, ofc, many people are just here for the vibe, but I prefer torturous insanity in fiction as an instrument, not the end goal. Maybe if I was 10... eh... 15... fine, 20 years younger... Good luck and nerves of steel to everyone who plans to stick around - from what I've seen, you're gonna need it)))
P.S. One day I'll finally encounter a pre-Joseon sageuk that doesn't look like a DIY high school play in terms of aesthetics... I know that there are a few, but all of them are so ANCIENT, and not just in a sense of portrayed era!
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 5, 2024 at 11:47 AM
I'm loathe to call this a "pre Joseon sageuk" even tbh. But Korea doesn't really have a set of words for various non historical but aesthetically costumed and fantasy dramas in different genres the way China does. I don't really like the common term "costume drama", but sageuk feels wrong too if there's no obvious history connection in some way. And then there's your fusiony crossovers anyway. (Lovers of the Red Sky was aesthetically Joseon, but culturally took a lot of liberties for its fantasy to work. From Now on Showtime's past life backstory was clearly Three Kingdoms but using different names. Etc.)
Anyway, maybe if this were more visually actually any one thing, it would help in general. 🙄
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Gikata
January 5, 2024 at 1:20 PM
And SK probably won't develop the term for such dramas anytime soon since I don't see any of them doing well enough to set the precedent. Even far more proper fusion shows hardly make any waves nowadays... But I do applaud the guts of people who unironically think that unhinged cdrama craziness is what kdramas have been lacking all this time, that's some impressive leap of logic)))
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
January 5, 2024 at 1:33 PM
Yeah, when I say I want more Fantasy Sageuks, this is NOT what I mean! Lol
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Gikata
January 5, 2024 at 2:01 PM
I'm also personally getting more and more tired of supernatural in nothing but their powers boyfriends in modern shows... Can't we keep those things fully historical and with appropriately rich lore attached for once? Like TOTNT38 felt so fresh by the virtue of Occupation era setting alone and Rang with his mermaid falling in love NOT while working in the same office/cohabitating in the same loft/fighting for chaebol inheritance!
🌸 Seeker 🌸
January 5, 2024 at 8:38 PM
"unhinged cdrama craziness" is its own genre ... and one I have been known to binge on for uncertain amounts of time. So bring it on ... but leave K-dramas alone, jebal! 😢
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15 DancingEmma
January 5, 2024 at 9:56 PM
C’mon Beanies. This is clearly bad bad so please watch “Like Flowers in Sand” and come join us. It is so much fun.
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16 Larraine Redsell
January 5, 2024 at 10:19 PM
Looks interesting
I will watch if it gets to Australia 🇦🇺
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lapislazulii
January 6, 2024 at 4:51 AM
It's available on Viki here Larraine!
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17 westberlin
January 6, 2024 at 2:22 PM
After reading the web comic I didn't think the story could get more complicated, yet the show manages to do just that.
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18 Areesha aasif
January 8, 2024 at 12:50 PM
I believe the lack of "obvious" change from Sajo Hyun to Akhee is done on purpose though, to keep us wondering just like his servants. But most of the time it was always obvious when it was Akhee and when Sajo Hyun. Also, it was Akhee who drugged her and saved her from his father because he wants her for himself. He had been following her for a while throuhout their last encounter. As for the fast pace, I am glad for that, otherwise it would get too boring. ParK JiHoon is the main reason why I am even watching this.
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19 Toki23
January 13, 2024 at 1:00 PM
Watched three ep ,it looks like a XianXia, i have the feeling any moment Hong YeJi is gonna speak manderin.
That Jekel & Hide thing is nonsensical . is hedonism trending ? Kitan War idem .
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20 cjoyce17
January 14, 2024 at 10:35 PM
I am just glad I haven't read this review and the comments here before jumping into the first episode of this drama. I usually don't watch dramas that have bad reviews. I actually started watching this one because I don't feel like watching the other dramas that are airing atm and I think the FL is really pretty. It's my second Park Jihoon drama as the first is Weak Hero (though I've only watched the first episode) and i'm liking his acting so far. I really enjoyed the first episode and I hope it won't change in the next few episodes.
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21 Ifeoluwa
April 24, 2024 at 5:40 PM
Pls how am I going to download it?
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