Soundtrack #2: Episodes 3-4
by solstices
The introduction of a vivacious young musician shakes up our ex-lovers’ dynamic, bringing repressed emotions to the forefront and steering them towards candid conversations. Absence may make the heart grow fonder, but proximity makes the heart yearn for what it truly wants.
EPISODES 3-4
“Things only feel difficult if love still remains,” Hyun-seo says, and this poignant line underscores this week’s episodes. It’s far from easy to move on if your heart still yearns for the past, and our leads are all too familiar with this feeling. They’ve been burying their history and suppressing their emotions, but they can’t keep running away from something they keep instinctively returning to.
Working with K reignites Hyun-seo’s love for music; when he tells Hyun-seo that her music moves his heart, his sincere words strike a chord in her. Hyun-seo confesses that she’s been intentionally avoiding music in its entirety, knowing that clinging on would only make it harder to give up. However, K’s given her a different perspective. By completing this song with him, she’ll be able to have a beautiful farewell with the piano. It’ll be her last chance to love it with all she has, then finally let go once and for all.
Meanwhile, watching them make music together fans the flames of Soo-ho’s jealousy. Not only does he cobble together a poorly-veiled excuse for Hyun-seo to move in with them, but he also wriggles his way into every chance K and Hyun-seo get to hang out, resulting in a hilarious grocery shopping trip where Soo-ho hangs off them like a third wheel. In addition, Soo-ho insists on calling K by his real name “Bong-gil,” which only serves to make K seem even more like an adorable puppy.
Both boys notice an old scar on Hyun-seo’s wrist, but K acts on it first by bringing her a heating pad to soothe her wrist from the day’s work. Later that night, when sleep doesn’t come for either of our exes, Soo-ho brings the topic up. Hyun-seo admits that she’d had surgery on her wrist, and Soo-ho realizes it’s why she’d missed their backpacking trip. Wrist injury or not, they wouldn’t have worked out anyway, Hyun-seo says. Their paths had been too different.
The next day, the tension — and lingering sadness — between Soo-ho and Hyun-seo is awfully palpable, which the perceptive K immediately picks up on. Hyun-seo feigns indifference to Soo-ho, until his tinnitus has him collapsing in the middle of their trip to a LP store. K runs off to buy water, while Hyun-seo unconsciously reveals how worried she is with her frantic nagging.
Next, our trio goes location scouting to find a good backdrop for their music video. When Soo-ho walks off to film our musicians from a distance, K takes the chance to ask Hyun-seo if she’d dated Soo-ho for a long time. Ha, he totally caught on quick! Hyun-seo’s flustered, but she insists that things are over between them. In response, K confesses that he likes her, explaining that her music filled the empty gap in both his song and his heart. K is earnestly sincere, but Hyun-seo’s conflicted expression suggests she doesn’t quite reciprocate.
I really liked how the show handled K’s confession, with the way K was considerate enough to keep Soo-ho out of it rather than retaliate with even more pettiness, and the way he checked in with Hyun-seo first before proceeding with his confession. (Though of course, we know she’s in denial!) K’s supportive sweetness makes his puppy crush on Hyun-seo even cuter than it already is, and I’d be rooting for him, if not for the lingering feelings and unresolved tension between our leads.
On the way home, K suggests naming their song “Da capo,” a musical term meaning “from the beginning.” Hyun-seo interprets it as “starting over again,” then corrects herself — perhaps it indicates repetition. Conversely, Soo-ho thinks it means returning to the beginning, a callback to better times. Oh, this is such a nice bit of characterization. Ever tactful, K tells Soo-ho to drop him off along the way, allowing our exes to get some much-needed alone time.
When they get home, though, Hyun-seo says she’s moving out. They’re almost done with practice, and she’s overstayed her welcome. Soo-ho insists on helping her move her luggage, which results in a catch-up session over drinks with their respective friends.
Afterwards, Soo-ho walks Hyun-seo home. Perhaps it’s the liquid courage in them, but they finally talk about their breakup candidly. Hyun-seo apologizes for dumping him the way she did, mired in her anxiety about the future, and Soo-ho admits that he hadn’t understood the extent of her struggles.
A passing shower has Hyun-seo inviting Soo-ho in for shelter and another round of drinks, which gets them drunk enough to giggle and play the piano together like old times. (Spot their matching jelly rings — so cute!) In a rare moment of vulnerability, Soo-ho admits that he resented her in the aftermath of their breakup. He’d wanted to take revenge and hurt her tenfold, but he’s realized that he can’t do that to her. “I missed you,” he confesses. As tears well up in Hyun-seo’s eyes, Soo-ho leans in and kisses her tenderly. Then they’re sobbing into each other’s arms, years worth of regret and longing threaded through their embrace.
Oof, the emotions in that scene. While their breakup initially seemed like the fallout of irreconcilable differences, this week demonstrated that their core principles aren’t that different after all. Both Hyun-seo and Soo-ho are diligent workers, and both of them care far more deeply than they’d like to admit — they aren’t as diametrically opposed as their miscommunication led them to believe.
Learning about Soo-ho’s overwork-induced tinnitus was a turning point for Hyun-seo, who up until that point had only seen Soo-ho’s aspirations as childishly idealistic. Now that she’s realized how hard he’s worked to achieve his dreams, she’s starting to realize how she’d mistaken his genuine effort for immature escapism.
On Soo-ho’s end, finding out about Hyun-seo’s injury recontextualized her choice to leave and opened his eyes to how oblivious he’d been. Both our lovers had been too wrapped up in their own struggles to notice each other’s, allowing their circumstances to override their love.
As we enter the finale week, it looks like reconciliation is on the horizon. It’s a testament to the strength of their love for each other that it still shines through years later, even after all the pent-up hurt and frustration. Hyun-seo claims that she regrets the last two years of their relationship, when she’d been trying to make things work, but I think what she’s really frustrated by is her perceived inability to change things for the better. Now that everything’s out in the open, I think Hyun-seo and Soo-ho can finally work towards supporting each other in the way the other person needs, rather than forging ahead with what they think is best.
Our ex-lovers’ relationship may be on the mend, but I also hope that the bond between our trio stays strong. K, with all his emotional maturity and empathetic sensitivity, has been such a positive influence on our two leads. Even amidst the love rivalry, I love that Soo-ho’s interference remains squarely in the realm of petty, never crossing into malice, while K continues to be a bright ray of sunshine who enjoys spending time with his hyung and noona. As much as I enjoy their interactions with Hyun-seo, I also really like the boys’ endearing dynamic — please let this friendship last!
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1 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 14, 2023 at 10:20 AM
Thanks for the weecap @solstices
I have enjoyed binging this drama and even more so knowing Demian is playing second lead. I love his songs; A simple man was my favourite track from the Race OST. I love that he gets to perform on this and ‘their song’ is such a great track. I hope the OST is released in good time as I have started the so far fruitless search for it.
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zindigo
December 14, 2023 at 12:10 PM
"Vol. 1" consisting of 3 songs was released on Apple Music earlier this week. Here's the link: https://music.apple.com/us/album/soundtrack-2-vol-1-single/1719193296
The songs are (as displayed by Apple Music):
1. When I Saw You by Seungwoo Yu
2. Can We Go Back to the Good Old Days by Kwon Eunbi
3. I'll Be Waiting by Young Jun & Fil
It's a nice collection. I'm guessing they'll release a volume for each week. Soundtrack #1 had a lot of songs on its OST.
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zindigo
December 14, 2023 at 12:14 PM
To clarify: My guess is that Demian's song will be on Vol. 2...
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 14, 2023 at 1:50 PM
I hope it’s not anything like Race because they released the other songs in dribs and drabs during the show but didn’t drop his until two months after the series ended.
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zindigo
December 14, 2023 at 2:35 PM
Race was on Disney, right? They are the slowest at putting out their soundtracks. I think it was nearly 6 months before they finally released the final soundtrack for Call It Love!
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 14, 2023 at 1:51 PM
Thank you so much with this info I finally found them on Spotify but that’s ridiculous I searched Spotify, Google and YouTube and got tumbleweed.
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 2:46 PM
Thank you for the list! I finally found them on spotify after seeing this. I don't understand why they're not compiled into a single playlist/album for easier access.
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athaaaaa
December 20, 2023 at 1:34 PM
do u know what title demian sang in soundtrack 2? im looking at everywhere but i can't find i... did they haven't release it yet?
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zindigo
December 20, 2023 at 1:38 PM
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zindigo
December 20, 2023 at 6:29 PM
See my comment further down re: vol.2 🙂
skirt
December 14, 2023 at 11:47 PM
Omo, I love A Simple Man too and have been listening to it lately.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 15, 2023 at 12:14 AM
It was the theme song for that show as far as I am concerned. While waiting, I looked through his other songs and I really liked Basement boy and had it on repeat so much so that Spotify just notified me that it was my most played song last year.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 15, 2023 at 12:14 AM
*This year
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zindigo
December 20, 2023 at 6:27 PM
Here's the link to Vol. 2. https://music.apple.com/us/album/soundtrack-2-vol-2-single/1719715077
1. A Song for You by Han Seung-woo
2. To My Past by Beom SeungHyeok
3. I Play for You by BJJJ
Since this volume does not include the song by Demian, I have to believe they'll release a volume 3.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 25, 2023 at 9:31 AM
I knew they would do this to me, so here is to the long wait, again! If I was him I would be asking what is going on as this is the second time now. Even worse vol. 3 came out on 24th December and the track is still not there😡
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2 Kafiyah Bello
December 14, 2023 at 11:02 AM
That was a hell of a scene between the two, but they knew what they were doing. They both knew what one more drink meant. I am glad they had some closure, so maybe they will get a new beginning, whether they are together or not.
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3 ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 11:16 AM
I may or may not have teared up a little during that final scene. They both knew something was bound to happen after days of proximity and tension, but they needed just that final push. And the hugging! That got to me more than the kissing did, actually. There was such a stark intimacy and yearning to our pair clinging to each other, desperate to be close. Gahhhhhh I don’t want this to end!
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♡Peach_Mochi♡
December 14, 2023 at 12:21 PM
It was so beautiful. The longing, the tenderness, the intimacy that comes from being with someone who has seen you at your worst and, it turns out, loves you still. This show is an unexpected gem.
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indyfan
December 15, 2023 at 1:45 AM
I was faltering a little on these two episodes, but that last scene did me in as well. An amazing scene combining emotional longing with the physical one. So beautifully done.
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4 vienibenmio
December 14, 2023 at 11:31 AM
I'm REALLY enjoying this one. IMO you can't really blame Hyun-seo too much, it's frustrating coming home from working hard to find your partner's been watching YouTube videos all day. Not filming them, even - watching them!
Has anyone here seen the American show You're the Worst (one of my favorite all-time shows, incidentally)? Soo-ho reminds me of Jimmy, where being dumped by a woman actually made him successful in the end because it made him all bitter and driven.
I feel like K doesn't actually have feelings for Hyun-seo the person, it's more that he has feelings for her music.
I've commented before on how similar this is to Persuasion, and that last scene--where Soo-ho says that he thought he wanted Hyun-seo to suffer for the pain she caused him, reminded me SO much of this analysis of Wentworth's character https://www.tumblr.com/madcatter88/165561411023/crimsonclad-the-thing-about-persuasion-that-just
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 3:46 PM
Oh my god this analysis!! Persuasion hive unite! I now need to read a thousand different Persuasion AUs until I'm drowning in them.
Brb, gonna have to check out You're the Worst one of these days.
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SP2022
December 15, 2023 at 5:07 AM
Love the analysis and the comparison, it's all the push I needed to reread.
And seeing the connection makes me like this show even more!
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5 lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 1:19 PM
Okay I have thoughts - and I’m likely in the minority with this one I think.
I like this show, I like our characters and I like the way the story is being told BUT after this week, I low-key don’t want the leads to get back together again. I was initially onboard for a exes to lovers story, but here it feels quite sad and one-sided and the exes potentially getting back together just seems futile because, at this point in time anyways, I don’t see it lasting. I actually wrote out a massive thought essay but won’t subject you all to that so here’s the CliffsNotes ver.:
* The situation feels a little messy and imbalanced in terms of feelings - Suho is hung up on Hyeonseo but it feels like he’s hung up on the idea of her/as she was in the past. On the contrary, it sounds like Hyeonseo moved on from him, she’s very firm on why she broke up with him and she hasn’t really given him a second thought since their breakup.
* So it feels like its ‘ML hanging on to the past while FL just feels sorry for him’ instead of ‘ML and FL rekindling something with a fresh perspective and some growth’.
* That entire sequence at the end of episode 4 also just felt like additional closure and a callback to Hyeonseo’s earlier line about wanting to love the piano passionately one last time before letting it go. Instead of being like ‘oh yes yay!!’ I just felt sad watching them.
* The other reason why it feels futile is because although time has passed and their circumstances have changed (for better or worse), it feels like both Hyeonseo and Suho haven’t really changed all that much. That brief scene where Soho recognises that he wasn’t aware of how Hyeonseo was struggling back then and she recognises that she broke things off the wrong way was nice but the problem still stands that they have very different outlooks on life and want different things still, and the problems they were facing back then still remain.
* Not to mention now it feels like there’s a huge gap between Suho and Hyeonseo too, where one has achieved his dream and she’s still struggling to find her place and let go of her dreams. If they already had issues back then when they were both in similar positions in life, I imagine it’ll only be bigger and worse now if they were to get together in their current circumstances, especially since Suho seems absolutely devoted to Hyeonseo (which could quickly spiral into overbearing) and Hyeonseo needs space and time to work through her issues still.
* Circling back to the ‘unbalanced’ point - although the jealousy is kind of cute, at times it just felt childish here and like a bit of a ‘take a hint’ moment, especially because it didn’t seem like she was at all interested in him for the better part of 3 episodes. We’re told Suho has had Hyeonseo on his mind constantly since their break up and we can see that he still has strong feelings from her from the first time they met again, but Hyeonseo has just been prickly to indifferent to...
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lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 1:20 PM
...him at best, even in private. Sure she seemed to change up a little bit over the course of ep 4, but it feels lukewarm still.
Now in saying all of that, this is me assuming that the final two episodes are going to have the leads back together, when it could very well be the opposite or an open ending that plays with the idea of possibility. I think also the limited episodes, and incredibly fast pacing as a consequence, is also playing into why the characters don’t seem - to me - at a place where they can genuinely get back together into something that’s stronger and will last. I think it would be really cool, though I suppose very unorthodox for a K-drama, if this was to end on a note of personal growth & make the point that happiness isn’t limited to your past with your first love - you can recognise that they were a significant part of your life, but its okay still to move on to make your own happiness in the future.
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Gum Shoe
December 14, 2023 at 1:45 PM
I agree with you. I actually started writing some of same things--Su Ho hasn't changed--he's a dreamer who wasn't sensitive to Hyun Seo's needs or even her health-- and remained childish about his desire for revenge or his petty jealously. They both haven't changed from when they broke up, and so it seems the problems that plagued them then might do so in the future. The only thing that has changed is that Su Ho is successful and has money. That probably doesn't change their core issue, unless it does, but given their personalities, it seems that their issues would manifest in other ways even with money.
The chemistry is great between the two, but this seems like one of those relationships that is good for that initial period of attraction, but not necessary for the long term. The fact that K in a short amount of time inspired Hyun Seo to resume music, saw that her wrists were an issue and tried to get her some things to help them, and picked up on the prior relationship shows that someone who is attentive to Hyun Seo can pick up on her unspoken needs or interests AND support her in meaningful ways.
It's a simple and short drama, which is lovely, but it also means that there isn't a lot of backstory (why is Hyun Seo so insecure and anxious about financial stability?).
That all said, I am enjoying the show. The actors are all good, Steve Noh is nice on the eyes, and the story is zipping along in a breezy way without much fear of a serial killer or a truck of doom.
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lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 2:10 PM
Yes we're on the same page! Glad I'm not the only one, I wrote this and then felt like I was raining on everyone's parade, but it's honestly what I was thinking while watching this weeks' episodes - the drama is still great but I've just got a different outlook on the 'OTP' now I guess.
And yes, great observations about K. I feel kind of bad that he's just there as a plot vehicle to bring the leads together but he's a good example of what kind of person I also think Hyeonseo would be better off with. I do think that maybe a longer drama could've delved into the backstory more and possibly given the leads that time and space for development to get to a place where they could possible could start something again properly, but as it is right now I'm just not convinced they're right for each other/they've changed much at all from the past.
But yes, seconding your last point also - I'm still really enjoying the show; the pacing and the fact that this is a pure rom-com without any thriller elements is delightful! Steve Noh's jawline and cheekbones make me go wow in every single scene, I'll never get tired of that reaction either 😂
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Gum Shoe
December 14, 2023 at 2:38 PM
I think I also have a different opinion on "OTP" than most kdramas anyway. Having lived long enough to have be in and seen some different relationships, this relationship actually felt familiar--the young pairing of two nice (and attractive and attracted to each other) people, but who are incompatible in the long run . Even if the feelings run deep and the relationship ends badly without "closure" doesn't mean a couple is meant to be forever. It doesn't even make them bad people. Also, as you say, it doesn't mean that relationship was a waste. But this is dramaland and people want entertainment and romantic fantasy, so this depiction of real life doesn't happen too often.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 2:42 PM
I can definitely see your point of view and, if I'm being completely honest with myself, if this wasn't a kdrama where I'm hardwired to want the leads to be 'back together' - I would likely agree that it would healthier if both parties acknowledged their innate differences and moved on. Hyun-soo and Soo-ho are people at completely different stages of their life and is a recipe for instability in the future (just as it was in the past).
That said, I think the reason why I'm so hesitant to pair K and Hyun-soo off in a romantically isn't just because Hyun-soo doesn't see him romantically, but because I'm not sure if even K himself does. He obviously has a crush and is far more emotionally mature than our pining leads, but his feelings come off as more like... an artistic muse rather than romantic love? I'm well aware that those things are intrinsically linked in the history of art, but K's feelings towards Hyun-soo feels one more of admiration and mutual understanding rather than romantic love. And he deserves better than to get inserted even more in-between the emotionally tangled drama that is Soo-ho and Hyun-soo. I feel like I'm rambling without making sense now lol.
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Gum Shoe
December 14, 2023 at 2:51 PM
I don't necessarily think K is right for Hyun Seo. She doesn't seem to have any romantic feelings for him, which is a big problem. He's just nicer and more sensitive to her, which shows how Su Ho is still kinda a blockhead when it comes to Hyun Seo.
lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 3:01 PM
No you're defs making sense - I agree with both you and Gum Shoe on not seeing K and Hyeonseo as a feasible couple either, for exactly the reasons you've pointed out. Defs feeling the artistic muse vibe & it being more like appreciation for her passion, talent and art rather than romantic interest in her as a person. I think he's just got qualities though that perhaps are what Hyeonseo needs in a partner, specifically the attentiveness, but to cut Suho some slack they were young before and right now he's caught up in their history and his own messy feelings of 'I'm hurt I want her to hurt but also I miss her and love her still'.
I'm so curious to see how this story ends up next week! I'm wondering whether I should also check out Soundtrack #1 too - I know it's a completely different story but if it's got similar elements of production and storytelling, I think I'd vibe it!
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 3:31 PM
@pynyc (hope I got it right): He is, on paper, a better 'option' for Hyun-soo with their similar personality, interests and situation in life. Which is why I hope they maintain their friendship and artistic collaboration even when (and it'll be a 'when', not 'if' because kdrama) she gets back together with Soo-ho because why restrict connection and understanding only to romantic bonds? And I'm hoping the last two eps make Soo-ho get his shit together and become a more emotionally-attuned partner because Hyun-soo deserves some comfort and a shoulder to lean on instead of more man-child antics.
@lapislazulii: K definitely has the qualities Hyun-soo needs in a partner that Soo-ho lacks - emotional maturity and sensitivity just to name two. I think that's why Soo-ho being wealthy could be a positive to their relationship (beyond, y'know, kdrama's fetishizing of wealth = attractiveness and the obvious Persuasion vibes). Part of Soo-ho's emotional unavailability came as a direct result of his dogged pursuit of success at the cost of his relationship and if that aspect is removed entirely from the list of issues, the path will be smoother sailing. Not that I agree with that approach irl, but this is a six-episode romcom and we're trying to have fun here with my chronic overthinking/overlong thought pieces lmao.
As for Soundtrack #1, I've made no secret that I disliked the writing and general ambience of that show (without even getting into how the main couple had the chemistry of cold days-old rice), but there are definitely enough similarities in the production styles that I won't discourage you checking it out. Hopefully you'll get far more from it than I did.
lynnB
December 14, 2023 at 11:39 PM
I agree with everything here, but I don't think K is any more sensitive to Hyun Seo than Su Ho was. In fact I think they are both very similar and that's why neither should be with her. Su Ho was extremely sensitive to her anxiety and depression and without any mental health training actually tried to deal with the issue in a way that is highly recommended. Hyun Seo suffered from severe anxiety and depression. Anxiety often stems from a fear of the unknown or uncertainty combined with a sense of a lack of control. Depression often drains a persons pleasure in a passion or art. The trip Su Ho planned was a good way to address both, having something that you can plan for in the future that you can control and that you can look forward to in pleasure is a common therapeutic tool for anxiety and depression. From their conversation on the bridge we can see his efforts to empathize with her, be vulnerable about his own fears so that she can feel safe to open up about hers. She just wasn't in a place to accept any of that help. She still isn't. K hasn't inspired her to resume music, she's using this one week to say "bye" to music. She is still in the throes of her anxiety and depression. She wouldn't be good for any relationship right now, even more so with someone who she admits is very much like her ex in their optimism and outlook in life. K like Su Ho is a dreamer and very optimistic and her anxiety and depression would just lead her to lash out against that the same way she did before. Note that she apologized for how she broke up with Su Ho, not how she treated him, belittling his efforts and demeaning his dreams. She still thinks she was right. K has similar aspirations and eventually they would come to annoy her as well. And she would again try to change her partner at their core. She needs healing and a lot of mental health support. As for Su Ho's need for revenge, I don't think it's childish. Wanting the person who hurt you by rejecting you as a person to hurt as well is a common basic human reaction. I think the end of the 4th episode beautifully portrayed that.
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lynnB
December 15, 2023 at 12:03 AM
I know I'm replying to my own comment, but this show has brought up an aspect of mental health and relationships that I have long focused on, but rarely get to talk about outside of the mental health field. That is, the effects of mental health issues such as chronic depression and severe anxiety on the partners/loved ones of the sufferer. Both conditions are so consuming and have such strong physical symptoms that most sufferers feel alone in their experience and often assume that the effects are on them alone. Except these mental health issues are like others they force those in proximity into the experience as well. While Hyun Seo spent two years of their relationship struggling with anxiety and depression and the whole time telling Su Ho that who he is as a person is wrong. They way he plans for his future, his hopes, his outlook in life it's all wrong. She spent two years trying to change him as a person all to eventually reject him. I don't think many can understand the complete mind "F**kery" that is. In AA and other addiction recovery programs one of the "steps" of healing is accountability for the harm caused to others even as you yourself was in midst of harm or hurt. Hurt people hurt people, true, but healing people take accountability for the hurt they caused as they were hurting. I realize this show probably has no plans to address or even intended that as a plot point, but I can't help but see it. Anyway, Hyun Seo is not in that space. Her hurt is still so loud and so consuming. In conclusion I hope they don't get back together.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 15, 2023 at 12:23 AM
Do you follow Noona’s Noonchi she is a Marriage and Family Therapist and Trauma Therapist and has a soon to be released book about the healing power of K-dramas. She looks at those that show the hurt and pain of mental illness, family dynamics etc and ways they can be used in therapy to help families heal. I think I either see dramas as case examples for training and discussion in therapy or I switch off and just watch as a distraction. So it’s always interesting to hear beanies discuss issues like discrimination within and when talking about the drama characters and their lives.
indyfan
December 15, 2023 at 1:34 AM
I really appreciate your insights into Hyun-seo's character. While I usually think we go into relationships as imperfect beings (and remain such for our lives), it should never be to the point where we harm others as she has done/could still do. It may very well be in this case a time skip is needed for her character to work on herself, whether the lead couple gets back together and not.
lapislazulii
December 15, 2023 at 2:43 AM
Thank you for posting your insights @lynnB - I'm learning a lot from your observations & experience!!
I didn't consider the way Hyeonseo was also projecting her own issues and hurting Suho - I recognised that she was rather dismissive of him and thought the way they broke up was unfair but you've shed some light further into the issue which is also making me reflect on my own past experiences navigating mental health and relationships too - esp. on that point you made about how people who suffer from poor mental health tend to assume that the effects are on them alone. All in all, as you've all also said, the more I think about it/talk about it the more convinced I am that now is not the best time for them to get back together (if ever).
It'd be nice to have the drama address this from both sides, and show the importance of seeking professional help to heal but yeah with two episodes to go and this not being the 'core' of the story, I don't think they'll go there either. Either way though, I really appreciate the discussions it's brought out on so many very pertinent topics around relationships and mental health. As @claire2009 said below, even if the ending is what we're all anticipating, this will still be a very 'enjoyable' drama both for the story it's telling and the conversations that it has inadvertently brought up!
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 14, 2023 at 2:17 PM
I like these short dramas because they are like the KBS specials they say a lot in a short period but there are always unanswered questions. It is more satisfying than the 16 episode dramas that don’t balance the time and end up rushing key points in the last episode and yet drag out unnecessary elements when they have too much time to fill.
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lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 2:23 PM
That's a good comparison! I appreciate how simple it is, and it says a lot without saying a lot. Lots of food for thought and introspection as well.
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lynnB
December 15, 2023 at 12:42 AM
I couldn't hit reply on your other comment so I'm replying here. No I had never heard of her, but I'm going to pre-order the book asap. I have the same experience while watching kdramas, even though I left the field and now work in engineering. It's hard to switch off though in most shows, I think it's why I seek out kdramas with a dystopian plot, but those aren't as common. Thanks for the book recommendation!!!!
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 15, 2023 at 4:46 AM
No worries, I usually share books I am reading and people of interest especially in the cross over with therapy world. I am impressed with the change of career hope you have been fulfilled in the land of engineering, talk about going from female dominated world to male dominated field😬
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Healer’s
December 14, 2023 at 3:17 PM
Then I'm in the minority too, because I agreed with you on this, I don't think I need to see Hyeon-seo and Suho get back together, on screen. If I were Hyeon-seo, I wouldn't get back with Suho at this stage. In general, I like happy endings for Kdramas, but for Soundtrack#2, a happy ending to me is that they talk to each other as 2 mature adults with no bitterness, find closure, and move on, which is indeed what happened these 2 episodes (not the move on part yet). But even if the ending is as everyone anticipated, I'll still love this show. It will be the 2023 pick of romance for me and will remain one of my favourites.
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lynnB
December 15, 2023 at 5:02 AM
I couldn't respond directly to your last comment. I too enjoy this space and the insights that you and other commenters bring. On other boards my comments are usually seen as too convoluted and unnecessarily heavy. So I really appreciate this space. For example you pointed out the imbalance that you noted in their relationship. That Hyeon Seo seems rather indifferent to Suho. It's something I had noticed as well, but I couldnt figure out if her character was purposely written that way or it was poor characterization on the writer's part. I noted that in all the flashbacks we are never given a scene where she is actively loving him. Even when we see them happy it's him writing her compliments or his sharing in her passion (i.e. them playing the piano). I was leaning towards poor writing, but since you pointed out her current indifference I now have to question my assumption and ask: was it always there?
Side note: Suho, that man needs therapy. At this point, I don't trust that his inability to move on is love and not approval seeking behavior.
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6 ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 3:01 PM
I have to add something somewhat unrelated: I am so, so relieved to see beanies be sympathetic and understanding of Hyun-soo's character and perspective here. I've long given up on other kdrama sites because of the mind-numbing amount of media illiteracy pervading the discourse, but sometimes I make the mistake of looking up things and deeply regretting everything and unfortunately this happened to be one of the times despite knowing very well how badly people to react to a woman like Hyun-soo who isn't all-sacrificing and saccharine sweetness towards her assigned love interest, but is instead a complicated human being who makes mistakes and stumbles through life due to poverty and the general misfortune of living in a society that disincentivizes artistic pursuits (been there on both counts). It's nice to have a space where I don't have to dodge insane misogyny and engage in meaningful conversation about a show I like (like, I saw someone calling Hyun-soo a gold digger in another site for "getting back together with her ex after he got rich." - which is just... ??????).
While I'm relating this directly to Soundtrack #2 and Hyun-soo, it is also a more general shoutout to DB and my fellow beanies for being awesome and wonderful and a safe space for so many of us not willing to wade through toxic, misogynistic viewpoints just to have a community space. Love you guys!
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lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 3:26 PM
Yikes 'gold digger?!' 😬 people are wild sometimes.
But yes I agree! And I've got to say, being completely honest, I've had to realise and unlearn a lot of my own internalised misogyny (that I didn't even realise I had) through introspection over recent years because often times my immediate first reaction to FLs that aren't self-sacrificing and saccharine used to be quite harsh. It's crazy how much you subconsciously pick up on, especially through media you were exposed to when you're a kid/teen, and then how harshly you judge yourself based on these crazy standards for women - I think I learned my biggest lesson through my first long term relationship when I found I was bending over backwards and jumping through ridiculous hoops just so I could suppress any sort of 'negative' reaction/emotion/feeling and come across as being a ridiculously kind, selfless and sunshine-is-me all the time kind of partner 24/7. I so appreciate that we've got all these female leads in dramas and other media now who are so varied, raw, honest, flawed and unashamedly themselves in their characters and portrayal, who show that women aren't a monolith and that having flaws, making mistakes, and having 'negative' emotions or feelings doesn't just immediately obliterate 'desirability' or their value as a person.
Anyways massive ramble but I so appreciate the point you've brought up and it reminded me that dramas - like all media - is often a mirror for both ourselves and for the society we live in and I'm glad DB is a safe space for learning and discussing, free of ridiculously toxic takes.
On the point about poverty and also the dis-incentivisation of artistic pursuits - great observation 👏 I was too caught up in my mulling over the relationship, emotional labour patterns, relationship breakdown of the leads etc., that this point barely registered but yes you're right, there's a lot of food for thought here on that topic!! Especially because both Suho and Hyeonseo operate within the 'arts' field more or less, there's some interesting points of comparison.
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 4:30 PM
Such a great point on unlearning the misogynistic messaging around women's feelings and emotional labour media has been force-feeding us for the past decades. I'm glad to be watching Soundtrack #2 now instead of, say, four or five years ago. I've also been in relationships (with both men and women! insane expectations of women's behaviour don't magically disappear in queer relationships even if many straight people seem to think so!) where I bent over backwards and went against my principles just to make my partner happy or to make them "like" me for longer - even when I knew the relationship was more-or-less over (I loved the detail that Hyun-soo was mulling about their relationship stagnating for two years before finally pulling the plug; it's heartbreakingly realistic.) I love that (some) women in kdramas are no longer perfect candies defined by their emotional codependency to their male lovers and are allowed to be messy and wrong and conflicted and, as you point out so succinctly, still be desirable and "worthy" of love. Even a few years back, a woman like Hyun-soo would be the evil, bitchy second lead viewers were conditioned to despise for prioritizing her art and career over her romantic relationship, while Soo-ho healed his broken heart and trauma via the emotional labour of some poor candy with the childish complexity of a stick of carrot. I'm glad that in this small corner of the internet, the Hyun-soos of the world are being discussed, analyzed and appreciated for their depth and place in media instead of being relentlessly castigated.
I brought up the point of art and artistic pursuits being disincentivized in our late-capitalist world because there's been some criticism online of Hyun-soo's dismissal of Soo-ho's 'dreams'. While I'm not saying her behaviour was right (in fact, I'd argue the drama itself goes out of its way to criticize Hyun-soo for it), what frustrates me is how little discussion I'm seeing the other way around. It's practically a cultural expectation these days for artists to suffer and drag themselves through ruthless poverty and misery to prove their art is worth some nebulous form of artistic merit and basic human decency. Hyun-soo has had her life ruin ruined by her dedication to her art; chronic poverty, physical injury, mental exhaustion, looming houselessness, broken relationships, etc. Yet, even through all this, she's meant to play the perfect supportive girlfriend to a guy who can't be bothered to get up from watching hours of youtube? People a lot smarter than me can write entire volumes worth of analysis on just the unfairness of it all. Sure, Soo-ho clearly adored her and loved being around her, but how is that enough? Why do so many of us see it as enough? Poverty can be dehumanization at its extreme. If Soo-ho can be cut some slack for his emotional immaturity when he was poor, why not his ex-girlfriend and what does it say about us as viewers that we don't...
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
December 14, 2023 at 4:34 PM
Oh God, not me getting cut off again 😭😭. This is embarrassing. I don't remember how I exactly I ended it so I can't re-write it 😭.
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lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 6:58 PM
No don't be embarrassed!! Makes it feel like a real conversation - like those ones when you're in so deep and then you loose track at some point (I know here it wasn't you loosing track but the cursed word limit smh).
I want to give this a really proper reply because my brains going a mile a minute (in a good way) but unfortunately I just started work so don't have the luxury of time 😭 so will likely be back to say more once I get a moment to collect thoughts (sorry in advance for adding to the notifs you'll receive!)
The point about how realistic you found it that Hyeonseo knew that the relationship was over but was mulling over it for a while before pulling the plug - YES I know what you mean! Been there done that too, very realistic indeed. Sometimes a relationship is over well before a break up happens - recognising, accepting and then acting on the fact that it's 'over' for you takes so much emotional space and time.
Great point about the emotional labour of candy FLs too - I'm glad we're getting more diversity in this regard, and while we've got some work to do still in terms of the catty, 'bitchy' SFL stereotype, it's good that there's more audience recognition of these problematic characterisations.
If I could give a virtual trophy to comments here I would do so for your very apt point about the ridiculous expectation placed on artists to wallow in misery and suffering to ascribe value to their art (and conversely there's sometimes a weird take that true art or 'intellectual' art is confined to the stuff that's depressing & torturous) . The devaluation of art and artists in general is a huge topic (the amount of artists I see on social media having to defend why they can't just give their pieces away for free or explain why 'it's so expensive' is ridiculous). Not to mention people just assuming pursuing arts is not as intelligent as STEM - don't get me started on this one. But coming back to the drama, I really, really liked your point on how despite all of Hyeonseo's exhaustion and suffering - the emotional labour she's taken on within the relationship also - she's then also lambasted for not being the perfect supportive girlfriend - it is incredibly unfair, as is the double standard for anyone who's fine with giving past Suho slack but not past Hyeonso (gateway here to look at gender dynamics and how it intersects with things like class and career too). And on the note of the 'gold digger' point - damned if you do, damned if you don't apparently; if she goes back to him she's 'gold digging' but if she doesn't then potential to say she's cold/not grateful for how nice he's being. People 🤦♀️
I could write an another incoherent essay also on the concept of someone being nice = you owe them something. Which isn't what the drama is saying at all, I'm just going off on a tangent based on adverse viewer reactions here, but just the idea of if someone loves you and if they're nice to...
lapislazulii
December 14, 2023 at 7:00 PM
omg lol now it's my turn to be like 😭 it cut me off too and I was so energetically typing away before that I don't remember exactly how I ended it 😂
"but just the idea of if someone loves you and if they're nice to...doesn't mean. you're obliged to do the same" - something like that? Don't remember exactly what I said next, but ahhh I don't think it was much hahahaha
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 14, 2023 at 9:38 PM
‘ If I could give a virtual trophy to comments here I would do so’ 👈🏾this is exactly why we came up with the
🫘Beansprout🌱 as a way to publicly acknowledge the impact another beanie has had on us through their words, gifs or services to the community. Beanies have helped me not feel alone with my random thoughts on a drama, have made me laugh out loud in the midst of a dreary day or made me feel connected to a community of like minded people from across the globe. This is a great place to be and sometimes we want to be specific about why.
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indyfan
December 15, 2023 at 1:38 AM
I appreciated being privy to this conversation as well. Actually, the whole comment section of this recap is full of insights. Beanies be smart!
Did anyone see Cunning Single Lady? I know we've spoken of the parallels to Our Beloved Summer and Persuasion but the premise has some similarities to CSL as well.
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lapislazulii
December 15, 2023 at 2:44 AM
I haven't even heard of this Indy but your comment had me googling! Will see if I can find a way to watch because I'm curious now!!
lapislazulii
December 15, 2023 at 2:34 AM
Major facepalm moment for me - how could I forget!! thank you for the timely reminder mother bean!! it's a really wonderful initiative - not only to acknowledge the positive way that beanie's comments impact us but also as a small moment of celebration for each other 🎉
I've got to remember to use it & award it more - I always forget!!
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7 Mrs Buckwheat
December 14, 2023 at 4:44 PM
It will be interesting to see how they end this, as a couple or as friends moving on.
I've really enjoyed watching and I think it is mainly because the two leads are doing an excellent job and it all feels so believable.
The piano scene with both at the end was exceptional.
There is some quality about the ML (apart from his chiseled jaw) that draws you in but I can't put my finger on it. He is very good at his craft.
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Healer’s
December 15, 2023 at 6:30 AM
I'm not mesmerised by the ML's jawline (I find it too pointed in relation to his other facial features and head - body ratio) but I feel the same about that "quality" he has that draws you in. Maybe because regardless of what he does or says, he still gives off a benign vibe, and we know that this is a decent man who is dependable, who would never do something ill to others. He can appear childish or petty at times, but those emotions do not translate to his actions, if that makes sense. Another cool thing about him is that he acts "cool" but his eyes show that he cares, either about K or about the FL.
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8 Kurama
December 15, 2023 at 12:48 AM
I'm not specially fond of this drama.
The ML is childish with his jealousy.
It doesn't make sense K fell in love with her and her music with the 3 chords she did on piano... I had the same issue with the first season. The producer waited a long time for the FL to write lyrics for a love song like she was a genius... I mean if you want me to think these people are good at their job, you need to show it...
I don't really like the fact it looks like she had to stop playing piano because of the surgery. It's kinda too dramatic for this kind of story.
For the past, I don't think that they were wrong in their way to think, just not in phase and cleary they didn't communicate well.
For the present, I don't see any difference in their character, so it's hard to imagine a better outcome.
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9 Nefret
December 15, 2023 at 1:03 AM
I still enjoy the show. And as much as I sympathise with FL and ML and ML's antics have given me a few laughs, I don't know if I wish the couple a happy ending together. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end they both make peace with each other, find closure and go their separate ways.
This is mainly down to ML. His jealousy and the way he deals with it make him seem much more immature than you would expect from his age. He seems so desperate that I find this behaviour unhealthy and fear that he will cling too much later on if they get back together. For me, that doesn't bode well for their future together.
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10 KDramaTipsy
December 15, 2023 at 1:40 AM
Is HyunSeo's love for SuHo like her love for piano? When she have up on piano, she also gave up on SuHo. Now that SuHo is back in her life, she is reluctant to let go of piano too. She wants to love it passionately for the last time before saying goodbye? Is that why she invited SuHo for one last drink knowing well where it would lead to?
This relationship reminds me very much of To My Star 2. A lot of people here must not have watched it as it's a BL. But it told the same story in a better way. There too I believed that the couple shouldn't get back together. I won't spoil it for those who haven't watched it, but the ending left me a bit dissatisfied but also very satisfied. In the end, relationships are always about two imperfect people working hard to make it work because they really want it to. Most of the time, one of the two is more careless or more hurtful, and it falls on the one who loves more to find it in themselves to forgive more. I look forward to what they do with this story.
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DancingEmma
December 15, 2023 at 1:09 PM
I loved To my Star and (2).
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KDramaTipsy
December 15, 2023 at 1:36 PM
Yayy! Good to meet another TMS admirer 😊
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DancingEmma
December 15, 2023 at 1:41 PM
Likewise! 🫰🤗 I talk about these 2 dramas any chance I get here. I genuinely feel aggrieved that Soo Woohyun is relegated to bit parts in other dramas. He can wipe the floor with so many terrible actors who are getting booked one after another for roles and yet, his talent goes unrecognized by this industry.
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KDramaTipsy
December 15, 2023 at 2:42 PM
True! He slowly seems to be getting better roles than bit parts. He was kind of the male lead in Battle of Happiness, though it was more of a supporting role. He also had a small loveline in The Golden Spoon. I am hopeful we will see him as a second lead soon 🤞🏻
DancingEmma
December 15, 2023 at 3:02 PM
Ahh. Thanks for telling me about the Battle of Happiness! Here is to him becoming a second lead and beyond soon!
11 Scottie
December 15, 2023 at 2:25 AM
I don't think we have the happy ending, yet. What is gone is the bitterness they felt towards each other, but this does not mean that they can just resume their relationship. There are two more episodes to come and I expect that they will go separate ways, but amicably before they get back together (this is k-drama!). No da capo, but a new tune!
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12 LaurenSophie
December 15, 2023 at 6:24 AM
I continue to love this show, but this week the vibe was definitely more bittersweet. It doesn't really feel like a reunion story at this point, but more of a let's-find-closure one. And with that last scene, K seemed to be emerging as more of an option than I assumed he would be.
I feel that Su-ho still has some growing up to do, but so does Hyun-seo. Although she thinks she's acting like an adult, she's shut down emotionally and forcing herself to stay away from something she deeply loves (the piano) because she can't excel at it anymore. A reconciliation at this point isn't the answer, but neither is Hyun-seo having a new relationship with K. We'll see what the next episodes bring, but I admit I'm a little stumped as how this can all be resolved satisfactorily for the characters.
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13 leeboo
December 21, 2023 at 1:14 AM
I don’t like this show. It’s just that simple. Dropped
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14 leeboo
December 21, 2023 at 1:21 AM
To be objective- the series stresses me out. There is just an undercurrent of sadness throughout the show. Unlike the first installment where I got a giddy feeling from the couple’s interactions, here, I just feel uncomfortable while watching. I feel like they are not on the same page feelings wise. I hope they don’t get back together. Find closure and then move ahead amicably
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15 ryunami
December 21, 2023 at 1:19 PM
A little too late and just completed both 3-4 eps (and going to finish 5-6 soon; by now everyone already knows how this show ends right).
With loopholes here and there mentioned by Beanies and FL as a gold digger by some next, I still enjoy these episodes. It is both funny and heartwarming to see that Suho actually never stop liking her even after years of break up. The main characters are lovable and I really want them to work on their differences and problems so that in the end they can be back together again.
Ps I think in these episodes, K is looking more like a third wheel.. he is cute and lovable with his crush for Hyeonseo.
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